I really don't understand why people "Need to feel" the shift, the CVT is just fine. The whole idea of people "needing" to feel shift 1, 2, 3, 4 etc is just weird. I don't think this is a issue, especially for people who has previously not owned anything else but a CTV-gearbox.
From my understanding from engineers who have done research on this, much of the shifting feel and sound has to be more rhythmic when combined with internal combustion cars. There are certain CVTs that create this discordant sound with the engine because of the constant rubber banding that subconsciously creates anxiety or driver fatigue and unpleasantness.
@@savagegeese That's interesting but this does not exist on my two recent cars (both Toyota Hybrids with e-CVT) and it has never bothered me and it doesn't seem to bother Toyota either. Especially since they only recently added it (one extra gear, the first one ) on the new Hybrid system ( 2.0 Corolla engine)
I need to feel the shift becasue in my case i want to feel, hear, and see that everything is in working order, it's a big reason i don't like EV'S, you don't know what the hell's going on and i don't trust these computer systems, becasue I've been in plenty of modern cars where I've checked on basic functions and the computer is way off. I drive drive a 96 accord and i know exactly what a working part should sound like, and sounds that ring alarm bells that something may be wrong. I know exactly when it's supposed to shift, I know exactly what the engine should sound like in first gear, i hear exactly when the fuel pump is in working order, i can see exactly how much oil i have you get the drill. That's one reason i hate CVT's and t most modern cars, you put too much trust into unproven systems especially in luxury cars and I've seen enough cases where that bites people in the rear when their engine blows because the retards removed the dipstick in place of a computer or when companies are replacing surefire ways to check that you car is in working order for flawed computer systems that could screw you if your not as car keen as the minority of the population. So in the case of "feeling the shift" it's not something we complain just to complain about it (at least me), i have my reasons, i want to feel that the car is in working order, especially not with a product that has a shotty track record like a CVT and most modern car features and gimmicks
@@savagegeese Also the fatigue and unpleasantness would only be reoccurring if you step on the gas on a cvt / or e-CVT. That's what creates the groaning noise. More common on a 1.8 Hybrid engine like the Prius but not so pertruding if you drive a Hybrid v6 Lexus with a CVT
The corolla was never "disposable". It's more like the Oster blender your parents gave to you when you moved out that their parents gave to them when they moved out and although it works just fine you almost wish it would break so you didn't have a fossil on your countertop. So you buy a new blender and it breaks in 6 months, and out comes the fossil again.
I really appreciate Toyota's dedication to affordable and reliable cars. Ever since Toyota redesigned the hatchback, it's been on my short list for my next car.
Affordable cars? Toyota have the highest prices when you shop around. With the CVT issues the Corolla has been recalled for, I'm not even sure the price is worth it any longer.
@@palebeachbum Agreed. The hatch has been out for just over a year and already it has been recalled atleast twice from what I remember. That's the reason I didn't buy the toyota hatch right as it came out cause they were using an all new engine and transmission and I didn't feel like being the guinea pig. Plus with that price I would most likely buy the hyundai elantra or the new kia forte, you can get the top trim of those for the mid or base trim of a corolla.
Mark F I agree for the most part but wait until you sit in a new Camry it’s insane ow nice the interior is like I can’t imagine what the Avalon’s feels and looks like
Finally! An expert cars reviewer who can appreciate driving a Corolla the same way he does with a Porsche! Of course with respect to the car class and price!!!
"I carry a corolla in the back of my Ram as a back up. With a Ram you always need a backup." -- (1) I doubt you have ever driven a RAM, let alone owned one. (2) I doubt you have ever driven anything outside of a video game.
@@mountainhobo LOL. I was being sarcastic about my truck. 2014 Ram Ecodiesel, 4x4, crew cab, 5'7" box with Hankook AT2 tires. I'm on my fourth recall hence my commentary on carrying a reliable backup car in the bed. It wouldn't fit anyway but makes for a funny albeit bit of an inside joke. The latest problem???? EGR coolers. Thanks eco-nuts. I've also drove 60,000 lb dump trucks a few times and worked for a feed mill in Wisconsin for three months (summer job) driving a 36,000 lb truck picking up and delivery feed stock at farms. It was called a shovel truck. Why? Because I often had to shovel the corn, soybeans, oats, barley, or wheat into the attached elevator. There are times I wish I'd stayed on the farm ...
@@mountainhobo Worse. I bought it used so I can't complain about being an early adopter. Anyway, it's a nice powerful engine and I personally haven't had any problems. However, 4 recalls in ... 2 for non-engine, one for Eco-complaints, and now the EGR.
I don't mind the screen but like he said i hate seeing this tablet in the middle ive owned 3 explorers i was going to get an ST and just because of the stuck on tablet im looking at other options.
Why do I need a fucking tablet in the first place? Give me a slot to click my phone into and have an aftermarket adapter set to physically connect any phone I like. 0 connecrivity issues, costs bugger nothing, reliable as the plastic used will ever be.
I really think the best way to fix the CVT is to take what Toyota did with adding a real first gear and start adding real gears back into the transmission. So the next gen Toyota Corolla will offer a real first AND second gear. Then just keep going from there.
@@kendelion They ship the Corolla hatch, Prius and many sedans from Japan which are too small to be practical for many large North Americans so I can still hope ;)
We won't be getting economy wagons anymore. I'll use VW as an example because I have inside knowledge. The manufacturing cost difference between a Tiguan and a Golf Sportwagon is less than $1K, but average sale price is nearly $4000 more. On top of that, depreciation in a Tiguan is much less steep than the wagon, which means lease prices are actually lower for the Tiguan. So with the Tiguan VW makes more money, most customers are spending less money, and the average American sees it as getting more car compared to the Golf Sportwagon. That leaves the only would be customers for the wagon to be enthusiasts; and much to the chagrin of all of us, enthusiasts don't buy economy or mid-market cars new, we buy them used, providing no incentive for the manufacturers to serve us except at the high end where the margins justify the low volume.
I drove one of these as a loaner when I had a recall of my 06 Matrix, and honestly I could not believe the ride quality of this vehicle. It really was eye opening in terms of how far cars have come in 15 years, literally like night and day. This was an incredibly comfortable ride and stylish interior also (and I think that the infotainment screen is cool, disagree with the reviewer on that, he seems to have a fixation on that). For what this is, it is an outstanding car.
I'm glad you seeing a different light. I have my 2005 matrix and even though I have almost 200k miles or 300k km for mileage without too much maintenance made me get 2020 corolla due to history of that reliability and low cost maintenance
I love that Toyota stays the course when it comes to their idea of complete reliability and making a pure driving/commuter car that'll last you for 15 years or more.
i know "kids", who cant even afford a driving licence. its around 2000€ btw. my first car was a 12 year old run down piece of shit polo, it cost me 800€ wich is less than my licence was.
They did in New Zealand. We had the domestic ae82 fxgt, Japanese imports of those and the ae9x series, and the ae101 and ae111. They all looked great and were fast for the time, in many cases still faster than the new corollas. Oh, and loads of ae85/86s.
This is my first car! And I LOVE IT!😍 I have no complaints, it’s easy to drive, the sound is good, is really cheap on gas! And it’s the perfect car for me!❤️
Hey! I was born and raised in Crystal Lake too! My first job in the car industry was at Anderson BMW/VW/Mazda as a service porter in 2003-2005. Great years for those brands!
Yeah when I realized Geese is right in my area I'm like wooooahh, I've lived here my whole life so i know all around. It'd be cool if there was ever a meetup.
Anybody else notice the Ford Edge running the red light at the very end? Lol! Awesome review! Looking for a replacement for my 2011 Focus. Will definitely take a look.
You could add a section. 'what size TV box fits into this car' I eat lunch outside the local big box store and almost every day I see people struggling to fit those large flat tv boxes into their sedans.
@@404nobrakes noooo, not the same. SUVs are actually taller riding hatchbacks. Wagons have a longer rear overhang in comparison. Plus the car ride height, obviously.
A review that appreciates the Corolla for what is - a simple, elegant, well-handling, comfortable car that sits 4 people without drama. Thank God for this channel!
Once again I agree on all points. I have a 2019 XSE hatch with the 2L. It's a great little car, and I got it as a commuter car to get good gas mileage, it does a fantastic job. I picked the Corolla because of the port and direct injected non turbo engine because I want it to last. That, and it's more comfortable than the equivalent Honda anyway. Great review, love my Corolla.
I have a 2012 corolla sport, it was feel numb until I change lighter rims and tyres, it drives like a really different car and handles way better on corners now and since im done with financing the car ill upgrade the suspension to have fun to drive on corners
I once rented a 2012 Corolla for a week, after a week with a nearly-new '12 Focus. It was a pleasure to switch to a simpler car in which everything, including the traditional 4-speed automatic, worked as it should - like it was designed and built by people who actually care.
I was like that...Till I got my 2019 Corolla, radar cruise, and auto brights on top of auto lights, heated steering wheel and seats are all things I don't want to give up on my next car. Maybe by then the lane assist crap will be better, but it's still kind of cool when it works. I agree the infotainment is a joke, may as well have copied Mazdas dash completely, cause the new ones seem inspired by them.
I have a 2010, too! Base model, no bells and whistles, and it’s reliable as hell. Could I afford something fancier? Sure, but I’d rather stick with a car that I can count on that’s also PAID OFF.
I used to say that, you will change your tune fast once you get hands on these new ones. Coming from someone who also owns a 2005 toyota matrix as we speak. You will clap your hands in appreciation.
I love my 2013 corolla S. I wish I had a manual transmission but at least it’s still an automatic transmission and the last year a Corolla had an automatic.
Great, calm and sensible review, thanks! In Europe you get the sedan with a hybrid engine, which is much slower but has an amazing fuel consumption value. The drawback is that it comes in only one trim level and only that said engine so it is a bit hard to get exactly what you like with it.
We get that too, the 1.8l hybrid is offered in the US. What Europe gets that we don't is the second hybrid with the 2.0 l engine and the wonderful ESTATE.
@@jamesmedina2062 You don't get them because no one on america buys them, you had wagons, no one bought them, so of course no one is going to offer them, losing money in the process.
He must have the dash lights cranked all the way up for the video, rather than turned down far as possible for better night vision. Or, he jumped in to drive the car right after the cam girl 😂
I bought a new corolla in '81 for $9000. Loved that car. Drove it for 9 years then bought my first and only Camry. Today I drive a platinum Highlander.
It's getting rarer and rarer. Although several compact cars still offer that combination, which is pretty great. I got my N/A MT kicks with a new 2019 Miata. Barring any transmission issues, maybe the simple design will stand the test of time.
Thank you for doing this review, I have been doing research in preparation to buy a new car, and your reviews have been the number one thing that has decided which cars I am considering. Thank you for such high quality and in detail content, especially with the interior, since your taste just happens to be similar to mine.
I understand that people think CVTs are weird, but what benefit does a CVT with fake shift points have? It doesn't keep the engine right in the power or efficiency band all the time, and it can't handle torque like a normal automatic.
Thanks for taking the review serious and providing actual information for potential buyers. Definitely refreshing after watching "Quirks and features" reviewers just meme their entire videos. Favorite Car CZcamsr for sure.
I thought the point of the CVT was to maximize whatever parameter the driver is trying to achieve; i.e., performance or efficiency. Get the engine to the desired speed and let the CVT do the rest. So, why the fake-icity with all the fake shift points doing fake shifts?
Too many people complaining about how CVTs feel weird, so Toyota did this to satisfy traditional drivers. Even at the expense of power or efficiency. It's not just Toyota. A lot of car companies are doing this now to their CVTs.
I am a huge fan of the Corolla's Been driving them for 18 years now. Super reliable and good value for the money. The newest Corolla is a welcome sight in many ways and I was happy to see many steps in the right direction but there is one thing that keeps me from buying this car and you addressed it in this video. The horrible horrible did I say horrible? Ipad for a radio in the dash. It is just hideous. Please bring back a double din radio that I can upgrade to something nicer if I want to down the road. Other than this the car is excellent.
Best introductions of any other reviewer, and the music in the beginnings can you list those in the description ? they are always awesome. Keep up the great work, love the channel, love the information that is shared, and the production quality, your usage of camera angles and lighting Great Job.
I honestly really appreciate what the corolla is admist all of the cars on the market today. Simple, NA, Manual trans option, and this time they made it even look really good!
@@Christian--- you're still confined to whatever size the DIN is though. You cant get larger in screen size without getting in the way of other controls.
I'm a simple guy, I see Savage geese video so I press the like button like a Savage. There aren't many CZcamsrs like this guy. The effort and honesty he puts in these videos are so refreshing. And he makes excellent videos for people who don't just buy cars for the infotainment center.
Just bought a SE in that same color two weeks ago. It really strikes a nice balance for someone like me who spends a lot of time on the road for work. You get reliability and a tiny bit of fun without breaking the bank.
The interior looks really nice , if only that screen was 3/4th the size and worked into the dash it would have been a VERY nice interior. Sadly interior space seems just too lacking.
I agree with you, I own one and it was the best new car buying decision I ever made. Coming from a used Toyota that I got for $3100 that I still have for 8 years and running with almost 300k km along with new 2020.corolla le.i have now
Thanks for the great review again @savagegeese I just picked one up last week and it’s a perfect car for what it’s intended to do. The only downfall honestly is that horrible screen design sticking up off the dash. No attempt to integrate it into the interior design. Oh, and the center armrest does telescope forward.
Thank you for the video. It helped me a lot and I ended up leasing a 2020 Corolla XSE. Mine just doesnt have the option package with navigation, JBL sound system, or cornering headlights. My car has android auto, so Toyota's nav is pointless. It's a great car, and I couldn't be happier. Yeah, the infotainment is just bolted on top, but I'm tall enough that it's no distraction at all, and the regular sound system is all I need. Otherwise, it has everything I could ever want. It's comfortable, user friendly, and a pleasure to drive. Keep up the good work!
@@alvinsimba734 No. The XSE is nice, but if I decided to buy a coraolla instead of leading in 3 years, I'll probably drop down to an SE because of the cloth seats, plus, the electronic gague cluster hasn't impressed me at all, but, I'll make sure and compare and contrast when the time comes. Don't get me wrong, I love the car overall, but its easier to go top-of-the-line in a lease. When you buy it outright, what options matter and what doesn't become more paramount, at least to me.
@Richard Favreau So far so good as far as the tires go, and no problems overall. There is an issue with the windows fogging up easily. That has bothered me a bit. Look, in spite of it being an XSE, it's still a Corolla. It's a very comfortable car. I could drive in the car for hours and not be bothered, certainly a big deal. It has tons of safety features, something companies like BMW and Mercedes have been lagging on, but even with the bigger engine, it's never going to be a car that wows you mechanically. The bigger engine just makes acceleration acceptable instead of adequate. It is what it is, and what it is is a comfortable car that will keep you very happy....to a point.
Savage: consider doing some reviews outside of cars. Your knowledge is great. I understand these would be more of a blog, and obviously limited amount of editing would be needed. I would like the learn from you ;)
I wish they'd spend about $250 per car for upholstery on the door panels and better quality dash plastics. It's where you spend all your time, make in nicer.
Love your videos. One suggestion (and pardon me if you address this elsewhere), but I think folks would appreciate, in the final thoughts section, a quick pros/cons compared to the other vehicles in the segment. I mean I do hear you do just a bit of that, but a bit more, at least for me, would be much appreciated. Thanks again for excellent videos.
Thanks for a great video! Car buying has been stressful during the shortages and the global pandemic. Your content helps me research and point out things I don’t normally think about.
Corollas are so awesome. But the CVT KILLs it. I got one as a rental and it was scary trying to merge into the expressway with Optimus prime behind me. I wouldn't want to own a CVT out of warranty anyway. These cars are famous for running longer than most marriages with standard manual and auto trans.
The first few minutes of this video shows evidence that Matt Maran is having an influence on Mister Goose since they have spent some time in each other’s reviews: faster talking like Matt. ☺️
Thumbs up, Sir!.. $28000 for a Corolla seems a lot... I got my 2008 VW GTI at about the same amount in 2008. Plus, I got it for 0% financing. Win/win. Keep doing what you're doing, man... Peace!..
@@vlads2874 well it be nice to keep a car as long as you want. Unfortunately there are accidents and therefore settlements on value. Therefore resale value rears its ugly head. So yes you always have to consider resale value.
The comment about the big piece of plastic on the left side is so true. I had the hatch version of the Corolla and it almost took my knee out when I got into an accident.
You tell me your pet peeve with this car and I'll tell you mine. Ready? The gauges with that blue arc look like something from the 80's. And one more thing not related to the Corolla: Weren't we supposed to have the conclusion of the Miata series with the ND video on January 3rd?
Yes someone finally points it out! 👍 i've hated Toyota gauges for a while. Noticed them first in an SW20 then i could never unsee their cheap or lazy gauge cluster design.
i literally have this EXACT car. from the wireless charging to the JBL and even the color. the only difference i see is that mine doesn’t have blue accent stitching on the seats like this one, mine came with the grey. i freakin love my car
Amazing how almost every manufacturer has gone with this ridiculous looking monstrosity on the dash that looks like some glued an ipad to the top of the dashboard....who the hell thought that looks good !
i agree. i bought this car and i was a bit skeptical/unsatisfied with the placement of the screen. it definitely has to grow on you. i definitely love the practicality of the buttons and the two scroll knobs it has. they feel good when you turn them
Why do you reviewers always seem to test the top of the line of a particular car, for the price of this thing, you can buy a bare bones Camry. Most people buy the cheaper version of these cars.
This is my first Toyota. I picked this over the Elantra Sport, because the last generation Elantra Sport was the one to by. Current Elantra Sport.... I don't care for it. I got the Corolla in the 6MT and it's definitely the fun one to drive. 6MT comes with cloth, BUT you get push button start and Moonroof! I love it!
Lots of people mentioning cheap interiors but as a mechanic I prefer them as the interiors are easy to take apart when you need to. I once had to take apart a door panel on a Mercedes ML350 and I thought I was gonna lose a fingernail or two. Toyota interiors are by far the easiest ones to rip apart.
I just bought a new 2019 Camry SE over the Corolla for my high school senior son. Why? Because the Camry has been tested in all crash tests whereas the Corolla hasn't. Better ride, less road noise, more power, traditional gears as opposed to the unreliable/more maintenance CVT, doesn't have the ugly stuck on iPad as the center console.
Unfortunately, the 8-spd automatic in the Camry is having problems. It'll probably be recalled at some point. There may be TSBs out on the internet already. Not sure. When it comes to transmissions these days, many are proving to be problematic, whether geared or CVT. Transmissions have just gotten too complicated and fussy in their engineering and programming. I'd take a dependable Chrysler Torqueflite 3-spd auto from the 80's/90s over the vast majority of modern transmissions.
@@palebeachbum It's too bad North America doesn't appreciate the manual transmission (I heard manuals now only make up 4% of sales!), because there's your reliable transmission. So much less complicated! Manuals are still the main transmission in many parts of the world.
@@lukek1949 They make driving more complicated and involved. Most people aren't car enthusiasts. They just want something to get them places safely and comfortably with as little involvement as possible. Modern automatics also tend to be much more fuel efficient. With that said, I'd live to have a 2nd car with a manual trans.
This is why I watch Savage Geese. He isn't in it for clicks. If he was he wouldn't be reviewing ho hum cars like the Carolla and Civic. He gives an honest opinion of years and years of reviewing cars both high end and low. Thank you Savage!
Notice to the left of the steering wheel many empty buttons. I don't why Toyota won't offer these features on the USA Corolla, while the Canada & Europe Corolla has it - heated steering wheel and wiper de-icer and backup assist
Many reasons, including ever-increasing government standards and mandated items on new vehicles. It all costs money to develop and include, and they're gonna price the vehicles in a way to ensure they recoup all development costs on a new vehicle, of which there are many. Lane departure warning, automatic braking, backup cameras, increasing mechanical complexity to meet CAFE standards, licensed software like Carplay and AA--none of it's free.
I just bought a 2020 Toyota Camry SE in December and it was around 10% off msrp. It originally costed around 27,000 but the dealership had a discount of $2000 off with a rebate of $1000, and I only had to pay $24,450!
I have a '17 Corolla w/ the 1.8 L CVT. No balls, totally gutless. Just the best car for driving to work-point A to point B. Happy with my purchase. I bought the pre-production loaner. Had 6K miles. $17K out the door. Still smelt new and had warranty left.
TBH I didn't think Toyota had it in them to make a car that wasn't a total appliance on wheels anymore. Then they made this, which is pretty much the perfect compact car in all respects, for a great price. They just did everything right and it really shows. Bravo Toyota.
I got to try the RAV4 hybrid on a long trip. Toyota is like trying to do a very pleasant interior, but sticking in the crapiest screens i've ever seen. The menus of the multimedia system just doesn't make a lot of sense, all i wanted was a big OFF button.
I really don't understand why people "Need to feel" the shift, the CVT is just fine. The whole idea of people "needing" to feel shift 1, 2, 3, 4 etc is just weird. I don't think this is a issue, especially for people who has previously not owned anything else but a CTV-gearbox.
From my understanding from engineers who have done research on this, much of the shifting feel and sound has to be more rhythmic when combined with internal combustion cars. There are certain CVTs that create this discordant sound with the engine because of the constant rubber banding that subconsciously creates anxiety or driver fatigue and unpleasantness.
@@savagegeese That's interesting but this does not exist on my two recent cars (both Toyota Hybrids with e-CVT) and it has never bothered me and it doesn't seem to bother Toyota either. Especially since they only recently added it (one extra gear, the first one ) on the new Hybrid system ( 2.0 Corolla engine)
I need to feel the shift becasue in my case i want to feel, hear, and see that everything is in working order, it's a big reason i don't like EV'S, you don't know what the hell's going on and i don't trust these computer systems, becasue I've been in plenty of modern cars where I've checked on basic functions and the computer is way off.
I drive drive a 96 accord and i know exactly what a working part should sound like, and sounds that ring alarm bells that something may be wrong. I know exactly when it's supposed to shift, I know exactly what the engine should sound like in first gear, i hear exactly when the fuel pump is in working order, i can see exactly how much oil i have you get the drill.
That's one reason i hate CVT's and t most modern cars, you put too much trust into unproven systems especially in luxury cars and I've seen enough cases where that bites people in the rear when their engine blows because the retards removed the dipstick in place of a computer or when companies are replacing surefire ways to check that you car is in working order for flawed computer systems that could screw you if your not as car keen as the minority of the population.
So in the case of "feeling the shift" it's not something we complain just to complain about it (at least me), i have my reasons, i want to feel that the car is in working order, especially not with a product that has a shotty track record like a CVT and most modern car features and gimmicks
@@YouWillNeverKnow But if your first car ever was a Prius you wouldn't even know the need of shifting :)
@@savagegeese Also the fatigue and unpleasantness would only be reoccurring if you step on the gas on a cvt / or e-CVT. That's what creates the groaning noise. More common on a 1.8 Hybrid engine like the Prius but not so pertruding if you drive a Hybrid v6 Lexus with a CVT
The corolla was never "disposable". It's more like the Oster blender your parents gave to you when you moved out that their parents gave to them when they moved out and although it works just fine you almost wish it would break so you didn't have a fossil on your countertop. So you buy a new blender and it breaks in 6 months, and out comes the fossil again.
Well said.
This is poetic
Disposable cars are synonymous with boring, which has been Toyota's most constant criticism.
You nailed it Mark
@@MRTOWELRACK except Toyotas are not disposable. 😀
I really appreciate Toyota's dedication to affordable and reliable cars. Ever since Toyota redesigned the hatchback, it's been on my short list for my next car.
Affordable cars? Toyota have the highest prices when you shop around. With the CVT issues the Corolla has been recalled for, I'm not even sure the price is worth it any longer.
@@palebeachbum Agreed. The hatch has been out for just over a year and already it has been recalled atleast twice from what I remember. That's the reason I didn't buy the toyota hatch right as it came out cause they were using an all new engine and transmission and I didn't feel like being the guinea pig. Plus with that price I would most likely buy the hyundai elantra or the new kia forte, you can get the top trim of those for the mid or base trim of a corolla.
Get one. From a hatchback owner. Get one. They are excellent little cars.
@@CanielDonrad The manual hatch would be a fine choice.
@@palebeachbum get the manual transmission
It’s good that Toyota still keeps the new Corolla a simplistic car
And it’s affordable!
Mark F I agree for the most part but wait until you sit in a new Camry it’s insane ow nice the interior is like I can’t imagine what the Avalon’s feels and looks like
27k is affordable? ok
Alex Duey you should check out the new Supra!
Yes the interior is basically BMW but it’s really nice and many people who owned the car really liked it
james Gand no they start under $20k
It may look simplistic but it has all the computer based extras needed. The good thing is that Corollas hold up very well.
Finally! An expert cars reviewer who can appreciate driving a Corolla the same way he does with a Porsche! Of course with respect to the car class and price!!!
I carry a corolla in the back of my Ram as a back up. With a Ram you always need a backup.
True.
"I carry a corolla in the back of my Ram as a back up. With a Ram you always need a backup." -- (1) I doubt you have ever driven a RAM, let alone owned one. (2) I doubt you have ever driven anything outside of a video game.
@@mountainhobo LOL. I was being sarcastic about my truck. 2014 Ram Ecodiesel, 4x4, crew cab, 5'7" box with Hankook AT2 tires. I'm on my fourth recall hence my commentary on carrying a reliable backup car in the bed. It wouldn't fit anyway but makes for a funny albeit bit of an inside joke. The latest problem???? EGR coolers. Thanks eco-nuts.
I've also drove 60,000 lb dump trucks a few times and worked for a feed mill in Wisconsin for three months (summer job) driving a 36,000 lb truck picking up and delivery feed stock at farms. It was called a shovel truck. Why? Because I often had to shovel the corn, soybeans, oats, barley, or wheat into the attached elevator. There are times I wish I'd stayed on the farm ...
"2014 Ram Ecodiesel" -- You bought the first year Italian small diesel?
@@mountainhobo Worse. I bought it used so I can't complain about being an early adopter. Anyway, it's a nice powerful engine and I personally haven't had any problems. However, 4 recalls in ... 2 for non-engine, one for Eco-complaints, and now the EGR.
I really hope that every car company stops sticking the screen in the middle like an afterthought. And Integrates it back into the dash.
I just want loads of buttons again so I can memorise the layout.
I don't mind the screen but like he said i hate seeing this tablet in the middle ive owned 3 explorers i was going to get an ST and just because of the stuck on tablet im looking at other options.
Why do I need a fucking tablet in the first place? Give me a slot to click my phone into and have an aftermarket adapter set to physically connect any phone I like. 0 connecrivity issues, costs bugger nothing, reliable as the plastic used will ever be.
Isn’t it safer? We are all going to look at the screen regardless of the law, so it may as well be nearer to the drivers line of sight.
I couldn't agree more. It looks hideous.
I really think the best way to fix the CVT is to take what Toyota did with adding a real first gear and start adding real gears back into the transmission. So the next gen Toyota Corolla will offer a real first AND second gear. Then just keep going from there.
You're on to something here 👍
Great review man! Im a Toyota mechanic and Ive got to say that these are some great cars. Especially the manual option.
Cars And Zombies Ditto! Not that I'm a Toyota mechanic but I can tell that it's put together well and I love manual option.
They use port injection plus direct right? Do they have timing chains?
@@NeoHCgbz thank you sir👍
Buy the SE Manual for added engagement or the Hybrid for outstanding mpg but the best Corolla is the WAGON sold in Japan and Europe.
The new Toyota Fielder looks like a Lexus. It has shifted from a work/company car, to a family car now! :D
@@kendelion The new generation is a big upgrade especially the AWD Hybrid I hope Toyota ships some over to us.
@@rightlanehog3151 doubt they will, SUV is the goldmine there, and work vehicles are mostly Trucks or Vans :(
@@kendelion They ship the Corolla hatch, Prius and many sedans from Japan which are too small to be practical for many large North Americans so I can still hope ;)
We won't be getting economy wagons anymore. I'll use VW as an example because I have inside knowledge. The manufacturing cost difference between a Tiguan and a Golf Sportwagon is less than $1K, but average sale price is nearly $4000 more. On top of that, depreciation in a Tiguan is much less steep than the wagon, which means lease prices are actually lower for the Tiguan. So with the Tiguan VW makes more money, most customers are spending less money, and the average American sees it as getting more car compared to the Golf Sportwagon. That leaves the only would be customers for the wagon to be enthusiasts; and much to the chagrin of all of us, enthusiasts don't buy economy or mid-market cars new, we buy them used, providing no incentive for the manufacturers to serve us except at the high end where the margins justify the low volume.
I drove one of these as a loaner when I had a recall of my 06 Matrix, and honestly I could not believe the ride quality of this vehicle.
It really was eye opening in terms of how far cars have come in 15 years, literally like night and day. This was an incredibly comfortable
ride and stylish interior also (and I think that the infotainment screen is cool, disagree with the reviewer on that, he seems to have a fixation on that).
For what this is, it is an outstanding car.
I'm glad you seeing a different light. I have my 2005 matrix and even though I have almost 200k miles or 300k km for mileage without too much maintenance made me get 2020 corolla due to history of that reliability and low cost maintenance
I love that Toyota stays the course when it comes to their idea of complete reliability and making a pure driving/commuter car that'll last you for 15 years or more.
I wish corolla looked this good back when i was growing up. Kids have it so good these days, even the "cheap" cars!
Most kids can't afford even this though, they are driving stuff that is almost a decade old or more
i know "kids", who cant even afford a driving licence. its around 2000€ btw. my first car was a 12 year old run down piece of shit polo, it cost me 800€ wich is less than my licence was.
OK boomer. They still can't afford these cars. Student loans and housing costs are insane.
Kids dont buy this cuz they buy unreliable crap cuz it looks good
They did in New Zealand. We had the domestic ae82 fxgt, Japanese imports of those and the ae9x series, and the ae101 and ae111. They all looked great and were fast for the time, in many cases still faster than the new corollas. Oh, and loads of ae85/86s.
The very definition of driving appliance. PS. Love the wah pedal.
Yet he trashed the 2020 VW Passat for being the exact same thing, but the VW had a better infotainment system.
This is my first car! And I LOVE IT!😍 I have no complaints, it’s easy to drive, the sound is good, is really cheap on gas! And it’s the perfect car for me!❤️
I can always recognize when he's driving down 14, it's weird seeing your town in a video.
Hey! I was born and raised in Crystal Lake too! My first job in the car industry was at Anderson BMW/VW/Mazda as a service porter in 2003-2005. Great years for those brands!
Yeah when I realized Geese is right in my area I'm like wooooahh, I've lived here my whole life so i know all around. It'd be cool if there was ever a meetup.
Anybody else notice the Ford Edge running the red light at the very end? Lol!
Awesome review! Looking for a replacement for my 2011 Focus. Will definitely take a look.
I swear, people are getting dumber and dumber as the years pass. Soon they won't even be able to walk and chew gum at the same time.
Yay more affordable cars!
You could add a section. 'what size TV box fits into this car' I eat lunch outside the local big box store and almost every day I see people struggling to fit those large flat tv boxes into their sedans.
They should have bought a wagon. Would fit with no problem. Except Americans don't buy wagons.
palebeachbum they do. They’re called SUVs
@@404nobrakes noooo, not the same. SUVs are actually taller riding hatchbacks. Wagons have a longer rear overhang in comparison. Plus the car ride height, obviously.
32" LCD maximum. Anything bigger, and it won't fit in the back seat.
@@palebeachbum I'm American and I've only owned wagons... so far.
A car to get you from point A to point B. Plain and simple.
Thanks
it can do it for 20 years or more.
Buy a Ford Model T then!
I hope you meant that as an insult. Because it is.
My 2003 Accord does the same for way less.
Local Toyota dealer is tagging $6k off msrp for three SE MT models. That's a heckuva deal getting this thing under $20k
A Toyota dealership quoted me $19,995 for a 2020 Corolla SE hatchback.
@@thundergato84 sounds about right if its in American dollars
Where are you located to even have SE MT stock 😂
A review that appreciates the Corolla for what is - a simple, elegant, well-handling, comfortable car that sits 4 people without drama. Thank God for this channel!
Once again I agree on all points. I have a 2019 XSE hatch with the 2L. It's a great little car, and I got it as a commuter car to get good gas mileage, it does a fantastic job. I picked the Corolla because of the port and direct injected non turbo engine because I want it to last. That, and it's more comfortable than the equivalent Honda anyway. Great review, love my Corolla.
I would take the SE. 18" rims won't suit the rough roads around here .
@@rightlanehog3151 I almost went SE but I wanted some stuff that you could only get on XSE. At least the Canadian version.
@@revnto7k I am in Canada too so I am obsessed with summer potholes that turn into craters in the winter. What features were missing on the SE?
@@rightlanehog3151 On the hatch, dual zone climate control. And I also prefer the fog light bumper because I hate the blanks on the SE.
Agree on choice of Corolla engine choice vs. Civic. But if the Civic has Port Injection...the Civic is better hands down...
I still love my 2017 corolla sport. You can't beat paid off at 40k miles. It works for me. Point A to B.
I have a 2012 corolla sport, it was feel numb until I change lighter rims and tyres, it drives like a really different car and handles way better on corners now and since im done with financing the car ill upgrade the suspension to have fun to drive on corners
Love my 2010 corolla. No infotainment or any of that junk. Just a simple car that has everything you need and nothing else.
I once rented a 2012 Corolla for a week, after a week with a nearly-new '12 Focus. It was a pleasure to switch to a simpler car in which everything, including the traditional 4-speed automatic, worked as it should - like it was designed and built by people who actually care.
I was like that...Till I got my 2019 Corolla, radar cruise, and auto brights on top of auto lights, heated steering wheel and seats are all things I don't want to give up on my next car. Maybe by then the lane assist crap will be better, but it's still kind of cool when it works. I agree the infotainment is a joke, may as well have copied Mazdas dash completely, cause the new ones seem inspired by them.
I have a 2010, too! Base model, no bells and whistles, and it’s reliable as hell. Could I afford something fancier? Sure, but I’d rather stick with a car that I can count on that’s also PAID OFF.
I used to say that, you will change your tune fast once you get hands on these new ones. Coming from someone who also owns a 2005 toyota matrix as we speak. You will clap your hands in appreciation.
I love my 2013 corolla S. I wish I had a manual transmission but at least it’s still an automatic transmission and the last year a Corolla had an automatic.
Great, calm and sensible review, thanks!
In Europe you get the sedan with a hybrid engine, which is much slower but has an amazing fuel consumption value.
The drawback is that it comes in only one trim level and only that said engine so it is a bit hard to get exactly what you like with it.
We get that too, the 1.8l hybrid is offered in the US.
What Europe gets that we don't is the second hybrid with the 2.0 l engine and the wonderful ESTATE.
Some EU countries get more trim level choices, you can get them as EU imports.
The majority of the new Corollas I've seen have been hybrid wagons.
Americans stupidly don't get enough wagon options. No Corolla or Accord or Camry or Civic wagons for example
@@jamesmedina2062 You don't get them because no one on america buys them, you had wagons, no one bought them, so of course no one is going to offer them, losing money in the process.
7:01 With that dash, a webcam girl won't need theatrical lighting to stream at night.
He must have the dash lights cranked all the way up for the video, rather than turned down far as possible for better night vision. Or, he jumped in to drive the car right after the cam girl 😂
I bought a new corolla in '81 for $9000. Loved that car. Drove it for 9 years then bought my first and only Camry. Today I drive a platinum Highlander.
I love a good naturally aspirated engine with a manual. Keep up the good work!
Exactly.
It's getting rarer and rarer. Although several compact cars still offer that combination, which is pretty great.
I got my N/A MT kicks with a new 2019 Miata. Barring any transmission issues, maybe the simple design will stand the test of time.
Thank you for doing this review, I have been doing research in preparation to buy a new car, and your reviews have been the number one thing that has decided which cars I am considering. Thank you for such high quality and in detail content, especially with the interior, since your taste just happens to be similar to mine.
Total baller status
Hey yo , you sound just like him but less depressed
Video starts "Do you like affordable cars? I know I do." Geese 1 - Doug Demuro 0
Yep. SE, 6speed is the way 2 go.
This video is approved by scotty kilmer
Rev up your engines!
Not a Celica, but close
Dr. Kaufmann not like those other endless moneypits
Kizzle hahahaha
I understand that people think CVTs are weird, but what benefit does a CVT with fake shift points have?
It doesn't keep the engine right in the power or efficiency band all the time, and it can't handle torque like a normal automatic.
They dont have any benefit. They reviews complained for a decade about the rubberband effect and as a result fake shifts were put in .
Thanks for taking the review serious and providing actual information for potential buyers. Definitely refreshing after watching
"Quirks and features" reviewers just meme their entire videos. Favorite Car CZcamsr for sure.
Waiting for Ep5 ND Miata 🤯
Silberpfeil I know the original video said Jan 3rd like wtf, come on goose give the people what they want.....and it’s not a carolla
I hope they go into detail on the LSD (type, slip percentage) on the ND(2) because there is not a lot of solid info out there on this topic.
I'm hoping for a Turbowski appearance in the ND episode.
@@rosswallace2969 i think hes trolling us at this point, literally a COROLLA
10 month’s with my 19 hatch the car has been trouble free and I’m averaging 43mpg in my 18,000 miles driven.
Wow. I'm currently looking at the 2020 hatchback. That is awesome MPG's.
I thought the point of the CVT was to maximize whatever parameter the driver is trying to achieve; i.e., performance or efficiency. Get the engine to the desired speed and let the CVT do the rest.
So, why the fake-icity with all the fake shift points doing fake shifts?
Too many people complaining about how CVTs feel weird, so Toyota did this to satisfy traditional drivers. Even at the expense of power or efficiency. It's not just Toyota. A lot of car companies are doing this now to their CVTs.
I really like that you talk about realistic cars and not taking out $50,000 dollar loans to pay for expensive vehicles!
I’m really digging Toyota’s design language these days 👏🏽
I respect you like it however for me it is so bad it hurts my eyes to look at it.
@@dantheman1337 I agree. The waterfall grille design is not good looking at all in my opinion
I am a huge fan of the Corolla's Been driving them for 18 years now. Super reliable and good value for the money. The newest Corolla is a welcome sight in many ways and I was happy to see many steps in the right direction but there is one thing that keeps me from buying this car and you addressed it in this video. The horrible horrible did I say horrible? Ipad for a radio in the dash. It is just hideous. Please bring back a double din radio that I can upgrade to something nicer if I want to down the road. Other than this the car is excellent.
Best introductions of any other reviewer, and the music in the beginnings can you list those in the description ? they are always awesome. Keep up the great work, love the channel, love the information that is shared, and the production quality, your usage of camera angles and lighting Great Job.
My aunt is 82 and she just bought this. She loves it.
Its good to see Toyota finally updating their car lineup. It was waaaaayyy overdue.
What do you mean overdue? Their new crap is barely out and you want a newer one?
@@Christian--- No. Are you aware of the last generation Corolla and Camry etc? If so, then my comment will make more sense.
I honestly really appreciate what the corolla is admist all of the cars on the market today. Simple, NA, Manual trans option, and this time they made it even look really good!
Rumor is that the screen on the dash makes it easier to change in the future without having to redesign the entire dash.
Funny how my DIN radio is in the dash and the most modular thing in my car.
@@Christian--- you're still confined to whatever size the DIN is though. You cant get larger in screen size without getting in the way of other controls.
I'm a simple guy, I see Savage geese video so I press the like button like a Savage. There aren't many CZcamsrs like this guy. The effort and honesty he puts in these videos are so refreshing. And he makes excellent videos for people who don't just buy cars for the infotainment center.
You're right, that infotainment screen looks terrible . Especially when you compare it to the screen in the Mazda 3.
Just bought a SE in that same color two weeks ago. It really strikes a nice balance for someone like me who spends a lot of time on the road for work. You get reliability and a tiny bit of fun without breaking the bank.
The interior looks really nice , if only that screen was 3/4th the size and worked into the dash it would have been a VERY nice interior.
Sadly interior space seems just too lacking.
As an owner of an LE, I can say the screen does not get in the way whatsoever
I agree with you, I own one and it was the best new car buying decision I ever made. Coming from a used Toyota that I got for $3100 that I still have for 8 years and running with almost 300k km along with new 2020.corolla le.i have now
Agreed!
Hatchback owner here. Most people say it is small, I fit my girlfriend and another couple in it just fine. We are all above 180cm tall.
Thanks for the great review again @savagegeese I just picked one up last week and it’s a perfect car for what it’s intended to do. The only downfall honestly is that horrible screen design sticking up off the dash. No attempt to integrate it into the interior design.
Oh, and the center armrest does telescope forward.
Thank you for the video. It helped me a lot and I ended up leasing a 2020 Corolla XSE. Mine just doesnt have the option package with navigation, JBL sound system, or cornering headlights. My car has android auto, so Toyota's nav is pointless. It's a great car, and I couldn't be happier. Yeah, the infotainment is just bolted on top, but I'm tall enough that it's no distraction at all, and the regular sound system is all I need. Otherwise, it has everything I could ever want. It's comfortable, user friendly, and a pleasure to drive. Keep up the good work!
You not planning to keep that corolla if leasing eh
@@alvinsimba734 No. The XSE is nice, but if I decided to buy a coraolla instead of leading in 3 years, I'll probably drop down to an SE because of the cloth seats, plus, the electronic gague cluster hasn't impressed me at all, but, I'll make sure and compare and contrast when the time comes. Don't get me wrong, I love the car overall, but its easier to go top-of-the-line in a lease. When you buy it outright, what options matter and what doesn't become more paramount, at least to me.
@Richard Favreau So far so good as far as the tires go, and no problems overall. There is an issue with the windows fogging up easily. That has bothered me a bit. Look, in spite of it being an XSE, it's still a Corolla. It's a very comfortable car. I could drive in the car for hours and not be bothered, certainly a big deal. It has tons of safety features, something companies like BMW and Mercedes have been lagging on, but even with the bigger engine, it's never going to be a car that wows you mechanically. The bigger engine just makes acceleration acceptable instead of adequate. It is what it is, and what it is is a comfortable car that will keep you very happy....to a point.
Savage: consider doing some reviews outside of cars. Your knowledge is great. I understand these would be more of a blog, and obviously limited amount of editing would be needed. I would like the learn from you ;)
I wish they'd spend about $250 per car for upholstery on the door panels and better quality dash plastics. It's where you spend all your time, make in nicer.
My favorite car, my favorite color and my favorite trim. AWESOME!!!!
Can't wait for Corolla EV. A corolla EV around $25k with 220 mile range would be amazing.
Love your videos. One suggestion (and pardon me if you address this elsewhere), but I think folks would appreciate, in the final thoughts section, a quick pros/cons compared to the other vehicles in the segment. I mean I do hear you do just a bit of that, but a bit more, at least for me, would be much appreciated. Thanks again for excellent videos.
Your videos are in a space of car reviews bordering on advertising. Keep up the great work and holding manufacturers to account!
Theres a god damn etch-a-sketch on the dash XD
Thanks for a great video! Car buying has been stressful during the shortages and the global pandemic. Your content helps me research and point out things I don’t normally think about.
I remember when my older brother bought a new Toyota Camry V6 XLE fully loaded for $26k... this costs almost 30 grand!?
Take 5000$-6500$ off durring the clearance event and you can get the top trim Corolla for under 20k.
Toyotas MSRP is for stupid people
Daniel G or you just buy it after a year of depreciation
Corollas are so awesome. But the CVT KILLs it. I got one as a rental and it was scary trying to merge into the expressway with Optimus prime behind me. I wouldn't want to own a CVT out of warranty anyway. These cars are famous for running longer than most marriages with standard manual and auto trans.
The hatch looks 10x better
Love your... LeBaron avatar
My corolla has just crossed 700,000 kms and it is still going good
The first few minutes of this video shows evidence that Matt Maran is having an influence on Mister Goose since they have spent some time in each other’s reviews: faster talking like Matt. ☺️
Thumbs up, Sir!..
$28000 for a Corolla seems a lot...
I got my 2008 VW GTI at about the same amount in 2008. Plus, I got it for 0% financing. Win/win.
Keep doing what you're doing, man...
Peace!..
Mazda 3 all day
Everyday
Problem is the Mazda 3 is more expensive and doesnt holds it resale value as well as the Yota. And I agree 100% with you ,lol.
@@timothycc711 Who cares about resale value if you plan on keeping it long
@@timothycc711 They pretty much cost the same in Canada.
@@vlads2874 well it be nice to keep a car as long as you want. Unfortunately there are accidents and therefore settlements on value. Therefore resale value rears its ugly head. So yes you always have to consider resale value.
The comment about the big piece of plastic on the left side is so true. I had the hatch version of the Corolla and it almost took my knee out when I got into an accident.
If I was in the market for a small car I would definitely choose the Corolla. However I would rather just buy a used Lexus haha
Same here, just get the gs350 or es350
huanuoya or even the ES300/330
@@THEFIRE360 true.
Yeah maybe a 10 year old lexus with 100k miles haha. Even a 3 year old Lexus ES350 will cost nearly double the Corolla.
THEFIRE360 nah those have timing belts, I’m with the others get the GS350 or ES350.
Serious question. If I was to drop $22,000 on a car what would be a better choice? Corolla SE or a Camry LE?
Corolla SE manual .
You tell me your pet peeve with this car and I'll tell you mine. Ready? The gauges with that blue arc look like something from the 80's.
And one more thing not related to the Corolla: Weren't we supposed to have the conclusion of the Miata series with the ND video on January 3rd?
Yes someone finally points it out! 👍 i've hated Toyota gauges for a while. Noticed them first in an SW20 then i could never unsee their cheap or lazy gauge cluster design.
i literally have this EXACT car. from the wireless charging to the JBL and even the color. the only difference i see is that mine doesn’t have blue accent stitching on the seats like this one, mine came with the grey. i freakin love my car
Amazing how almost every manufacturer has gone with this ridiculous looking monstrosity on the dash that looks like some glued an ipad to the top of the dashboard....who the hell thought that looks good !
i agree. i bought this car and i was a bit skeptical/unsatisfied with the placement of the screen. it definitely has to grow on you. i definitely love the practicality of the buttons and the two scroll knobs it has. they feel good when you turn them
People who have never been beaten over the head with a tablet. In the Auto industry it's always the stupid ideas that get approved for production
I've been contemplating getting one of these recently. Thank you for this and all your excellent reviews.
test drive one. i have this car. you will love it. i highly recommend
Why do you reviewers always seem to test the top of the line of a particular car, for the price of this thing, you can buy a bare bones Camry. Most people buy the cheaper version of these cars.
Press cars are almost always fully loaded to showcase all available features.
This is my first Toyota. I picked this over the Elantra Sport, because the last generation Elantra Sport was the one to by. Current Elantra Sport.... I don't care for it. I got the Corolla in the 6MT and it's definitely the fun one to drive. 6MT comes with cloth, BUT you get push button start and Moonroof! I love it!
Maybe you can tell those guys at Toyota to give us an XRS model again and put the 8AR-FTS 2.0L turbocharged motor under the hood💢
Toyota just previewed an upcoming 250 HP, AWD Yaris so we need to aim for at least 400 hp with the Corolla ;)
Lots of people mentioning cheap interiors but as a mechanic I prefer them as the interiors are easy to take apart when you need to. I once had to take apart a door panel on a Mercedes ML350 and I thought I was gonna lose a fingernail or two. Toyota interiors are by far the easiest ones to rip apart.
I just bought a new 2019 Camry SE over the Corolla for my high school senior son. Why? Because the Camry has been tested in all crash tests whereas the Corolla hasn't. Better ride, less road noise, more power, traditional gears as opposed to the unreliable/more maintenance CVT, doesn't have the ugly stuck on iPad as the center console.
Wish I had thought of the. I got the automatic SE in celestine gray.
Unfortunately, the 8-spd automatic in the Camry is having problems. It'll probably be recalled at some point. There may be TSBs out on the internet already. Not sure. When it comes to transmissions these days, many are proving to be problematic, whether geared or CVT. Transmissions have just gotten too complicated and fussy in their engineering and programming. I'd take a dependable Chrysler Torqueflite 3-spd auto from the 80's/90s over the vast majority of modern transmissions.
@@palebeachbum It's too bad North America doesn't appreciate the manual transmission (I heard manuals now only make up 4% of sales!), because there's your reliable transmission. So much less complicated! Manuals are still the main transmission in many parts of the world.
@@lukek1949 They make driving more complicated and involved. Most people aren't car enthusiasts. They just want something to get them places safely and comfortably with as little involvement as possible. Modern automatics also tend to be much more fuel efficient. With that said, I'd live to have a 2nd car with a manual trans.
I am still driving the 2008 "put you to sleep" Corolla. Still no need to get rid of this one.
the fisher price baby monitor stapled to the dash is a deal breaker for me.
This is why I watch Savage Geese. He isn't in it for clicks. If he was he wouldn't be reviewing ho hum cars like the Carolla and Civic. He gives an honest opinion of years and years of reviewing cars both high end and low. Thank you Savage!
Hey Geese, the armrest does telescope. I own one
How? Mine doesnt, the one in the show room did though. Felt like o got scammed and then got over it. (SE manual model)
@@Xachremos uploaded a video just for you. Check my channel for the armrest magic
It does! The one at Evans Toyota Fort Wayne certainly did!
The best thing about the corolla is that people say “oh it’s just a corolla”.
Love the outro clip where the Edge runs the light haha
Notice to the left of the steering wheel many empty buttons. I don't why Toyota won't offer these features on the USA Corolla, while the Canada & Europe Corolla has it - heated steering wheel and wiper de-icer and backup assist
I just wish they made a turbo manual model, they look soo good
Isn't there 1.2 turbo manual in Europe?!
@@JohnyMcNeal maybe there is, I'm in the US so it doesnt make a difference to me.
@Tom ooof yes no thanks.. I'm talking 200hp+ would be awesome
Kind of car made for up north in those cold snowy climates. Always starts and honest. Buy it.
Doesn't the Camry SE start at 28,000? Why are new compact cars so expensive?
Because steel and sheet metal are not the most expensive components of a vehicle.
Many reasons, including ever-increasing government standards and mandated items on new vehicles. It all costs money to develop and include, and they're gonna price the vehicles in a way to ensure they recoup all development costs on a new vehicle, of which there are many.
Lane departure warning, automatic braking, backup cameras, increasing mechanical complexity to meet CAFE standards, licensed software like Carplay and AA--none of it's free.
@@thatoneotherotherguy Plus inflation. You can't forget inflation. $12k bought a "nicely equipped" midsize sedan 25yrs ago.
I just bought a 2020 Toyota Camry SE in December and it was around 10% off msrp. It originally costed around 27,000 but the dealership had a discount of $2000 off with a rebate of $1000, and I only had to pay $24,450!
Wat? Since when Camry is compact?
I have a '17 Corolla w/ the 1.8 L CVT. No balls, totally gutless. Just the best car for driving to work-point A to point B. Happy with my purchase. I bought the pre-production loaner. Had 6K miles. $17K out the door. Still smelt new and had warranty left.
did Toyota put a slot machine on the dash?
Another great video. Great format, good video length, easy to digest. Dirty, real car reviews are the best.
Why can't Toyota/Lexus get infotainment design right?
Bizarre.
The Corolla is just a logical purchase for most people, and the facelift for this generation of the Corolla is much needed~
Wish we had the wagon
YES!!!!!!
TBH I didn't think Toyota had it in them to make a car that wasn't a total appliance on wheels anymore. Then they made this, which is pretty much the perfect compact car in all respects, for a great price. They just did everything right and it really shows. Bravo Toyota.
How about a Rav 4 hybrid review?
They are still in short supply for the press fleet. When they start building them in Kentucky there ought to be enough for consumers and reviewers.
I got to try the RAV4 hybrid on a long trip. Toyota is like trying to do a very pleasant interior, but sticking in the crapiest screens i've ever seen. The menus of the multimedia system just doesn't make a lot of sense, all i wanted was a big OFF button.