Jim Cornette on The Origin Of His Problems With The Young Bucks
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- čas přidán 26. 05. 2020
- From Episode 141 of Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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lmaooo I'm nick from New Jersey, i can't believe he actually took this much time to answer it
And what did you think of his answer?
i'm nick of the same name from wales.
@@Danlows1 well heres the thing..either I'm confusing 2 stories or some kind of mandella effect happened because I could have sworn I've seen comments (specifically on youtube) and I believe by the bucks themselves that one time he direct messaged them. I could be wrong . Im glad he went into depth on the relationship as I didn't know much of that part, but I did already know the story of him seeing them in the locker room that time . Im trying to find out more to see if I'm just crazy or whats up lmaoo . But otherwise I love his podcast and the answer. I appreciate the fact he took time to answer it
@@nickbrown5878 you might be thinking of omega. Omega was suppose to do a show for ROH, but said he had a foot injury of which he emailed a fake photo off the internet to Cornette or the ROH office. Then, the next day Omega was wrestling at a Japan show.
no im pretty sure it wasn't that lol when I find out more ill make sure I come back here to update lol
Ironically Jim, Prichard, Bischoff and Russo all said they didn’t like the Bucks at this time because of their matches. Another rare moment where they all agreed on something.
I don’t understand how anyone could like them, especially if they were veterans in the business.
I don’t even watch wrestling I just like listening to Jim Cornette
Exactly
SAME!!!
TicklesButtz real wrestling fans dont watch wrestling
Preach
Same. I haven't watched since 2003. I have no idea who 99% of these people are in the modern products ..... Jim is just really funny.
I watch many of these vids in it's entirety even though I don't watch today's wrestling. That is a sign of a great storyteller and communicator, which Cornette is.
Same here. Haven't watched a minute of televised wrestling in at least a year (not because I decided to, I just sorta stopped; was never the most hardcore fan to begin with) but I watch these videos frequently. I didn't even really think about it until I saw your comment 😂
same here.
Me too, and I haven't followed wrestling since the Monday night wars.
Holy crap! Me too. I haven’t wrestling since the Chris Benoit family tragedy. I occasionally watch a Royal Rumble to see who’s on, but that’s it. Once a year rumble.
Same lol
I like when Jim mocks Matt “Hey Jim” 😂
Got me too lol
"Adopt these orphan children from California" 🤣 love it
“No mf, you can’t play my game, cause you’re not smart enough.” damn 🥶
Jim cornette learning how to message people on Twitter is a very dangerous thing and I love it
I remember a video of the bucks, Kenny and Cody in a hotel room in Japan. They told the story almost exactly how Jim just did.
Anyone got the link?
@LastDropFalls where's jim working again?
@Mark i mean if that's the case then corney don't matter cause he wasn't the first booker or performer either
@Mark lol wow your live must be so exciting. Ok their dad was on TV i cant think of any other wrestling company do that and surely not one that cornet worked with whilst it happened.
@Mark lol yeah they destroyed the business with the cattle prod or the finger of doom or the gobblegooker or giving birth to a hand or viragra on a pole match or custody papers ladder match i could keep going with ways wrestling got ruined.....David Arquette almost forgot him
Imagine The Acolytes taking on The Buck's that night, instead of Public Enemy.
Exactly 10 seconds after the match, they would be fired
Simmons could eat the bucks like a box of twinkys
Simmons could eat the bucks like a box of twinkys
They would've tossed them around like rag dolls. Imagine seeing one of them take the Clothesline From Hell!
bradshaw would have clotheslined one of them in half.
"As Ricky Morton use to say one time I took pills bigger then them boys."----Jim Cornette. Lol
The way they drew cartoon nick jackson's face has me dying 😂😂
I will also say cornette has a memory like an elephant.... his encyclopedia knowledge of wrestling is honestly insane
well its quite questionable if this is all accurate but you know we will never know.
@@stashallemagne4488 his cohost Brian will always fact check, especially cause he has an encyclopedic knowledge too. Difference being Jim is more through experience, but Brian is a historian
All wrestling stories tend to be embellished a bit, they can't help themselves, so you'll never hear the whole truth no matter who you hear it from but there seem to be enough common themes if you hear a story told by multiple wrestling performers that you can get the gist of what went on.
@@johnstamos5948 great combo
This is honestly the first time I realised this podcast isn't co-hosted by Bubba-Ray Dudley
Can't lie, I was a big fan of the Bucks and Kenny when I first started watching them, but boy did the mustard quickly fall off of that hot dog. I honestly feel like they, the Bucks especially, are marks for themselves.
@Lee Grace Yes exactly, same type of match every fucking time. Same with the Bucks. After rewatching a few of Omega's matches in NJPW, I could tell that okada had been carrying him for the most part in all of their matches and you could possibly also say the same thing about his match with Switchblade.
@Metropcs Metropcs I strongly disagree about his dragon suplex. Worst I've ever seen!
It’s almost as if when he doesn’t have top level talent to help him and experienced quality booking he isn’t very good 🤔
Same. I was a mark, I bought their t-shirts in 2016 that I still have to this day and people recognize often. Don't know what happened with Omega. To the disenfranchised fan of the double double E, he was supposed to be the anti-establishment. Instead, he's been just another act in the circus that is currently aEW. High hopes indeed, that maybe, just maybe, these guys will figure it out at some point. Assuming they're going to be there for the long haul.
Mustard off the dog is a GREAT EXPRESSION!!!!
Had someone give him the "gimmick" to install the old Twitter 😅
Love how he uses wrestling lingo in everyday verbiage talk.
@@wjl2068 Right! It kills me man
@KaneMagus yes dumbass but it wouldn't make sense using it in this context would it?
@KaneMagus yeah but its the manner in which he's using it that's so funny
You do know gimmick s a real word and term and not just a wrestling term right? Same with angle.
Young bucks are the diet Hardy Boyz
They are the cosplay Hardys.
🤣😂🤣😂😂😂🤣😂
@@jthom0027 they are poor man london and kendrick 2006 version. matt hardy work tag team with bucks. he is only 6ft2 he was towering over bucks. matt hardy look like great khali compare to bucks on aew. the bucks make london and kendrick look like stenier bros.
@danny cardona they are poor man london and kendrick 2006 version.
They aren’t fit to lace the Hardy’s boots.
This is my favorite video ever. I watch this every month
I always love a Cornette episode cartoon, but anything involving the Bucks always makes me chuckle, because it's the only time they can ever be associated with drawing.
😂😂😂😂😂😂damn man thats just cruel
And yet they cocreated the present 2nd biggest Wrestling promotion and Jim has to live as a podcaster because his time in ROH was a huge flop.
Top notch comment, here!
@@Raddon I think you vastly overestimate the percentage of his income that comes from the podcast.
He's not struggling for cash.
fuckin' sick xD
Young Bucks are athletic and the moves they can do are impressive, I will say that, but their matches are garbage. They don't sell, they double team way longer than a 5 count so that should be a dq, can't cut a promo, no personality, and all of their matches are the same. Just superkicks and 97 high flying move spot fests with no psychology. If they actually took the less is more route, maybe they'd have some memorable matches in AEW. I can't think of one of their matches that I was like "oh yeah, that match was amazing! I got to see it again!" I don't get their hype
The only one I remember is the Omega/Page match but that's because they used every single move that could ever be done in one match.
Look at matches in the attitude era lol mfs that weren’t legal we’re getting pinned 🤦🏿♂️
@@anthonyanderson9175 What does that have to do with this subject?
@@darryllmcgee I will say that people do that now because of how badly booked the undercard of the Attitude Era was. For every good-to-great main event, there was shit like the illegal man in a tag match being pinned, choppy choppy your pee pee, etc.
"Athletic" but can't dunk a basketball on an 8' rim from above the rim.
“Hey Jim” lmao
I'm not a wrestling fan and never really have been. I had a slight brush with wrestling back in the day but I could listen to Jim tell stories all day long. I know enough to know who Jim is talking about (mostly) and I find his stories fascinating. Love this shit!!
Loving these podcast. Stay safe Jim and stay safe everyone !
Stay safe? Are we expecting some sort of danger?
@Mighty Martinez Yeah, killing old and sick people.
I appreciate it Dirk, ignore the trump supporter
You as well buddy
@@johnboylan3832 that virus made a lot of people paranoid and still does for some reason
Mr. Cornette's Cartoon Angry Face should be an meme for whenever something deserves this reaction 🤣
Jim has a good story for everything 😂
Itz amazing how in his age he has such amazing memory. God bless Jimmy. Hope he lives to be a 100.
And he's never gonna run out of stories
I forgot Cornette hates Kenny King lol. I have to find that old rant now.
I hate Kenny King too
Mark Reed why? I’m curious lmaooo
I think because of Omega and Bucks, Jim also forgot about it)
That's because Kenny King screwed ROH and Rhett Titus royally. King and Titus finally won the ROH tag titles and then King goes and signs with TNA.
"Kenny King's gonna fuck all the hoes. He just wants to fuck some hoes". LOL
“You can’t play my game because you’re not on my level.”
Truth.
The Young Marks. They epitomize the dbag gimmick except not a work but a fact of life
Live The Gimmick
"Road Warrior Buck and Balding Buck and the complete disdain i hold for you. Personally and Professionally" - Jim Cornette
Yet I talk about them endlessly lol
@@horrorfan4-life689 you can't tell me there's not someone/something you despise that you don't complain about when it comes up
Why does cornette call him road warrior buck?
daeZ jaeN His lack of selling moves like the Road Warriors.
Seriously...if Road Warrior Animal could find a fitting replacement for Hawk, and I mean fitting because the guys Vince forced on him just couldn't fill hawk's boots, I would LOVE to see him and his new partner pummel the Bucks for daring to call themselves Road Warriors. That'd be a great angle for sure.
"It was me all along, Young Bucks!"
"Hey , Jaam."
I saw someone below a Wrestling Observer video call the Stadium Stampede "anime style wrestling" , that's the exact moment I gave up on the AEW fanbase.
I know right as if they havent ruined my favorite thing enough (pro wrestling) they are out to ruin my second favorite thing as well (anime) i think im gonna puke.
Hell, anime gets the soul of wrestling 1000 times better than the AEW goofs. I rewatched Naruto for giggles and nostalgia a year ago or so and I was laughing at how pro wrestling it is... Neji squashes Hinata, a lovable babyface, and acts all superior asshole heel; Naruto runs up, cuts a genuine wrestling promo, promises to avenge Hinata, Neji looks back and says "you've got no chance". Coming up next month on pay-per-view, Naruto vs. Neji. It's pure pro wrestling.
Except that's exactly the one thing Bucks or Omega have never ever, not once managed to do: make me care about the stakes or the winner of their matches. They do a bunch of flippy shit that's, sure, kinda cool to watch, I guess, if you're into watching circus acrobatics. But nothing means anything and no one gives a fuck about who wins or who loses. The Bucks had what was supposedly the "best ladder match in history" or whatever against the Lucha Brothers: does anyone even remember who won that match? Or did anyone care? It sure as hell didn't matter at all, no one even paid any attention to the belts.
Does that make Jim Cornette Ryu Hayabusa?
Ur lame
I wish it was at the level of anime wrestling. Ultimate M.U.S.C.L.E and Tiger Mask have matches and storylines WAY better then the spotfests the Young Bucks deliver.
I know it would never happen, but I would pay a lot of money to see Jim manage the Bucks just once - the event and stories alone would be gold.
I'd prefer him managing another tag team and having a feud with the Bucks cause we know he doesn't like them and the feud would feel more real and that would bring the best out of the promos and a match
I lost it when Jim said "they couldn't sell pu**y on a troop train." 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Cornette is a national treasure 😂
Jim and brian, keep up the great work!!!👍
This story explains the mentality of modern wrestlers and fans quite well
Society, period. All about clout, no substance to any of it
@@paulies5407 Yep. Its a generational thing/ This generations hates fundamentals on everything and don't want that work on areas for improvement.
Okay...i´m waiting for the "Corny Rules" Signs when the crowd is back in AEW. :D
They would probbly kick them out.
I think AEW outlawed hurt feelings.
Watching these tiny wrestlers no sell kicks to their face and also ruin the sharpshooter is infuriating
I used to be a big fan of The Young Bucks and Kenny Omega when they were in ROH/NJPW but that was before they were on TV every week for a mainstream wrestling promotion. It didn’t take long for the bloom to come off the rose once AEW started.
What’s been disappointing about AEW is the seeming refusal to try to take their prime TV slot and appeal for a mainstream audience. Instead it’s always seemed to just be a combo of Indy, ROH and NJPW. I wish they’d put some of the niche stuff in but also mix some mainstream in and grow a much bigger audience.
@@Matt-cr4vv Then they would just be WWE Lite. AEW's whole thing is being more like the indies for people who prefer that style of wrestling more.
"Over in Japan" They got attention there from hanging out with Finn Balor, AJ Styles, Galos & Anderson correct?! 🤔😉👎
@Blade Runner over the young bucks?? Absolutely. Atleast gallows and Anderson look like adults that can legitimately defend themselves.
@@RealFuckingReviews yes.
There's a reason they were the opening match of most NJPW events and never moved up the card. Because they perform the same match everytime and it's the equivalent of an opening match.
@Blade Runner yes because they actually know how to work a match. They can work with anyone, and go anywhere and make money. The brotherhood of reject little boys that are the pillars of AEW can only work their chaotic trampoline show with each other. Why the fuck Cody ever fell in with those jackasses is baffling!
Generation MEME
@Vick Four yea that's what they were called in impact
@@Level2slime yeah there feud with shelly and sabin motorcity machine guns over tag titles in tna 2010 was decent.
@@erickessler7105 it was but since I'm biased for the guns I usually say they helped make it even better
@@Level2slime agree back when bucks were younger 10 yrs ago in 2010. got old tna ppv dvds from 2004-2011. still watch old tna ppv dvds from 2010. from there no surrender title match. from 2010 bound for glory. also there full metal mayhem tlc match for tag titles in 2010 final resoultion.
I always feel like I'm missing something with the Bucks. I give them major props for selling so much merch, that's a serious achievement. But as wrestlers I do not get the hype with them at all.
yeah, I don't get it either. but they have managed to find enough people to buy their shit to support their life and that is crazy to think about.
i wasnt a Fan but after watching The Bucks vs. War Machine in NJPW they won me over.
And the Match gainst Omega and Page is one of the best Tag Matches i have ever seen.
So iam still not a super Fan of them, but i can see them as a good Tag Team, sure sometimes they do too many Spots for my personal taste but overall they can realy go and brpught back Tag Matches into the Spotlight.
The merchandise the sold was just rip offs of artworks. They basically sold their faces with more sucessful brands like Megaman and Rick and Morty. You need no dignity if you're going to get over like that.
They are extremely athletic but their selling and ring psychology are abysmal. Mic skills are fairly worthless as well. They were able to get the superkick shit off the ground and are selling it to the "people who like those kinds of things". MJF is a million times the wrestler those two or Omega could ever dream to be and the dude is 23 or 24. Crazy
@@RandalfElVikingo yeah and you know about getting over cause you've done it right
I love every moment of this interview lol
It's funny. I'm in my early 20s I'm like the age group for the fans of the young bucks. I never got them and never understood them. I thought they were overrated. It wasn't until Cornette and a lot of these videos. Where I saw that maybe I'm not far off
Same. Mid Twenties. Weird thing is ten year old me would love them because i loved garbage wrestling and high spots back then and didn't understand the art of wrestling.
Cause they suck donkey dick and have never drew an actual dime in the states outside of their circle jerk of friend-fans.
Thank you for clearing the way. It's exactly how I feel about them too. And the same for Kenny "Olivier".
I just don't see those guys as superstars. And it has nothing to do with the size or the look. I just don't get what makes them such a big deal...
I'm 23, I hate all that high fly shit 24/7 like they do, and I also can't stand Kenny Omega. My friend showed me a clip 3 years ago of Omega and said, "he's the big thing!". I told him he was full of shit, didn't like Omega then and still do not like him now!
I liked the Bullet club in NJPW but never understood what was so great about the young bucks. So what they do a lot of kicks and say suck it a lot. Big deal.
Anyone who thinks Omega and the You Bucks are great wrestlers are Marks.
I like Omega…the Young Bucks not so much.
I think omega could be great, if he was trained by wwe a couple years back and had matches with people like Seth, Rey Finn balor etc
The douche bag express is the worse Kenny ahhhh not much
The Bucks look funny in that drawing!
@azart61 Too much hair lol
Everyone looks funny in those drawings 😂
@@MMA-CLIPS2 my personal favorite is Jelly Janella
They almost look like they're dancing and Nick's face just cracks me up for some reason.
They look funny in real life too
AEW: I asked you the Standart Question.i think i am old school.
David Schultz: you think you are old school?
So, from what I gathered, Cornette hates the Bucks, personally, for 2 main reasons:
1.) The Bucks personally disrespected Cornette.
2.) Cornette hates how the Bucks wrestle.
No one throw hate here, I'm just trying to relay what I heard here.
Sounds about right. Though I guess Jim comes off as a “boomer” to some, while the Bucks come off as disrespectful pricks
Not sure how Jim was disrespected. In that video Jim was not disrespected, I mean if ignoring someone while on your phone is disrespectful, then that means we are all disrespectful, except myself because I do not have a mobile phone.
Number 2) counts way more for Cornette than it does most people. He thinks the Bucks make a mockery of the business.
Ah those "Direct messages" that they didn't bother to screenshot or prove at all. Clowns.
y should they jim never proves any of the shit he throws at them sry they are without a doubt the top team in the world and he hates it cause hes fucking wrong thats it
@@grimsvaultstreaming3956 Even if they were the top team, which they aren't, that wouldn't be much of an accomplishment anyway since tag wrestling isn't a big deal now. Like it or be in denial over it, but the truth is The Young Bucks can't wrestle and have no charisma.
Bucks never said it was by direct messages. They told the same story Cornett did. It was fans retelling the story who got the details wrong. Might be an idea not to believe everything you hear from Cornette and Last & do your own research. Might also be an idea not to believe something because it confirms your biases. That way you don’t look like a gormless twat in CZcams comment sections.
@@cmcg3738 Bucks said he MESSAGED them, Corny said he SPOKE to them. I'm not sad enough to look into it any further than watching both interviews (though I struggled to watch the Bucks interview because they're as boring as nuns in bed). And if it tells the same story, than it just shows Cornette ribbed them and they were too stupid to figure out he was doing it. Doesn't look great for your heroes here.
@Zdiddy7 They didnt say it verbatim though. They said Cornette messaged them on Twitter, Cornette and Omega said it was in person. Do you know what verbatim means? 5 star matched according to who? Meltzer who licks their crack because they let him feel like an insider because all the real wrestlers told him to get lost? Theyve never had a Taker v Michael's WM25, or Rock v Austin level match, just their bestie called it a 5 star match. Drawing power? Again they made their career clinging off of other guys like Omega. Making it in other companies? They wrestled in bingo halls before AEW and the biggest company they worked in before was TNA where they couldn't get over. They're not in the same dimension not to mention the same league as the truly great wrestlers, get tf out of here with your fanboy bs.
The thumbnails always are LOL hilarious once you get the context.
The Young Bucks should name a move after Cornette!
They could just do a kick in the nuts and call it the Cornette.
The TYFYB
i got a name for it... "The corny drive thru"
The kayfabe killer
The Cornetto
Another great thumbnail.
God I miss wresting in 2011-2012 ROH. It was so good and loaded. Tag team division loaded. Kevin Steen (Owens) was champion and trying to tear down the company and had a fued with Jim Cornette which was great and seemed real.
Haha it pretty much was. They pulled a punk vs authority. They legit didn’t like it each other and knew that kind of heat would make a good story. What a great time in ROH history. Wonder what ever happened to Kevin Steen
Chris Hansen yeah I don’t see Kevin steen wrestling anywhere anymore although there is a guy who looks just like him in WWE, even has The same first name but his name is Kevin Owens.
Who?
I love it when the Corn Pops
The Young Bucks are WAY OVERRATED. It really irritates me when people say that the Bucks are the best tag-team in wrestling and the greatest tag-team ever.
@SAIRAJ DEGVEKAR First of all, you have no way of knowing if anything that you said was the absolute truth. You know absolutely nothing about the inner-workings of WWE's business structure. By the way, I do not allow Jim Cornette to do my thinking and create my viewpoints. I do that by myself. What you need to do is stop automatically believing everything that Dave Meltzer and others tell you.
@SAIRAJ DEGVEKAR What actual proof do you have? You putting out an opinion does not make it the valid truth.
Yes they are definitely not the best tag team in the world. Solid top 3 but not more than that.
@@noamto The Young Bucks are not even in the Top 3.
@@darryllmcgee okay top 5
Straight Shooter Jim Cornette 💯 tells it the way it is
I love Jim and I love the Bucks of Doom. God help me😂
Lmao
Me too I had to scroll down a lot to find someone who agrees with me🤣
I don’t necessarily like Corny, but I can’t deny he’s an absolute wordsmith when he gets angry. The angrier he gets the funnier he gets.
Note: His story took place in Bowling Green, Ky. I was there. The card had both Cornette and the Bucks.
I know you have heat with him...but Steen & Generico were a way better tag team than the bucks. Hell at least they spun that team into a successful solo run...plus it got them both to as bad as it is the pay day promise land. Bucks haven't evolved, still the same schtick and on American prime time TV as a focus a little to late
Who?
the thing is the bucks are minda plain and their inring work is their only strength, they cant split and have solo runs, steen and generico has proper characters and the comnections, both of them in their prime were some of the best work roh had ever put on ever
@@EliC09 kevin owen,sami zayn
That " make a wish " oh my 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
When jim cornette is giving kenmy king any sort of props, you know that's how much he hates the young bucks lol
Cornette is pure gold
Old Man Yells At Cloud!
And yet you are listening to him and giving him the views
Young dickbag dismisses contrary opinions he doesn't even listen to
I hope the delorean gets fixed soon so jim can go back to his time
11:45 I'm imagining Cornette as the "higher power" on RAW
JIM! STOP DIRECT MESSAGING MY MOM!!!!
The Middle Aged Bucks featuring Midlife Matt and Nick the Stitch, Cena’s little buddy.
@Lee Grace which is which?
Mid 30s isn't middle aged tho.
@@orangejulius3205 yes it is 30s-40s usually midlife crisis age
@Lee Grace lol okay thanks for clearing that up for me.
I used to love the reverse rana. But it just happens way too much on AEW. On big PPV shows of them, theres at least 1-2 reverse ranas. It should be a move that happens once a year at most.
Is that frankensteiner.
@@dranzerjetli5126 Reverse Frankensteiner
Same with the candian destroyer
Well, I learned that Delirious' real name is Hunter Johnston....
Very good!
Cornette’s such a pain in the ass I love it so much
But do you like it more than Omega, I wonder?
Can you imagine would have happened if the young chumps no sold to the Road Warriors Steiner Brothers or the APA? That would have been brutal.
The only reason why The Young Bucks even exist as a tag team is because those guys retired...if they were wrestling to this day, they would stiff these two jabronis so hard they would go into early retirement and pretend to never have anything to do with the wrestling business. Matt and Nick Jackson suck!
The Acolytes would eat them for breakfast and the Steiners would’ve crushed these chumps in seconds.
Farooq alone would've killed them in the ring just like he hurt Ahmed Johnson for injuring him
Another reason why he has no respect for them as well. He firsthand witnessed men that destroy someone if they no sold and disrespected them.
Young Skunks 😂
4:30 gets me every fucking time 😂😂
The thought that these two are Vicepresidents of anything is laughable
Exactly. Them and Kenny are toxic to the success of AEW as long the 3 remain in behind the scene roles.
Ok so how your company holding together
Road Warrior Buck 😂
which one is Road Warrior Buck
@@mreed588mr Matt
This was in Bowling Green, KY. I was at this show.
Wow I love the insights
Roddy Piper said it best Jim, Old Schools Cool! Several decades from now you will be vindicated.
In several decades the Young Bucks will be Old School, though
@@wmaneker They will never be mentioned again.
Nothing cool about jimbo
@@RandalfElVikingo So they'll never be mentioned as the first or only tag team to create a popular pro-wrestling promotion on a national network? They won't be mentioned as having tbe best self-marketing of all time?
😂😂 It's fine to hate them, but don't be ignorant of the facts.
Old school - old's cool
Old twitter, old wrestling, old stories....a pattern I see
if I understand your point, what's the alternative? new twitter, new "wrestling" and no stories? no thanks
@@iamdb1990 if you want stories join a book club.
6 to 700k people watching wrestling today compared to millions.... Yeah I see her new wrestling is better
@@horrorfan4-life689 hello horror fan 😊 your comment made so little sense it made me gassy
@@northsidekang4640 Total derp...
I was at the Jackson Tennessee show and met Jim. Nice guy
I LOVE THE CORNETTE HONESTY!
The worst part about AEW is Marko Stunt and Sonny kiss. Both need to be fired ASAP.
OG Bobby Knuckles don’t forget Nyla Rose.
Absolutely, they kill a lot of the credibility, I would of rather have them turn into old wcw than to turn into this indie side show, indie shows are a 1 night entertainment event, where a tv show builds a fued that will or should run 6 months, that’s wrestling
I don't have an issue with Sonny Kiss. Joey Janela and Nyla Rose should be released and I think Orange Cassidy should be allowed to manage but not wrestle, at least not in important matches.
I’m fine with Marko Stunt being in a manager role If he can work, but as an active wrestler? No, I think it can work if he were in a tag team with a big guy like Brodie lee, where Brodie does all the leg work and it’s basically a handicap match, that can work. But Marko stunt in singles competition vs legit wrestlers, or legit people of normal size? No.
And if this were a video about AEW, Marko Stunt, or Sonny Kiss maybe your comment would have some relevance. But it's not so why bring them up?
I don’t get the hype on the young bucks, they are a good team but I don’t think they are amazing.
Its bc they were in the bullet club, the bullet club was the nwo of the indies, you can’t really deny the impact it had. Anyone in the bullet club was seen as cool, and the bucks were the most influential tag team in the bullet club
My dad who doesn’t watch wrestling was calling there moves coming up. It was so predictable. They take too long to make there moves
@@majorcarver3504 New Japan Pro Wrestling isn't "the indies", WWE fanboy. They're the world's 2nd biggest promotion & first in overall match quality.
They're so fucking lame
@@majorcarver3504 everything you said is 100% facts. Btw did anyone give a shit about the bullet club once "the elite" left? Did anyone REALLY give a shit about bullet club? I dont think so
Young bucks should change their name to Old hacks
gotta love Corny!!!!
I don't like the Young Bucks but I don't hate them, I recognize what they can do well, but I ultimately see them as a perfect example of how flawed the idea of the "smark" is.
It doesn't help to have people with influence like Dave Meltzer propagate ideas like the star system for matches since such a rating system is not a dependable way to show correlation between how good a match is as a money generating product. 5 star matches may impress "smarks" but the vast majority of paying audience members and PPV customers aren't "smarks". 5 star matches don't generally translate to big draw matches.
The Young Bucks are a fine duo for appealing to "smarks" but you can't expect a booker to consider them a draw simply due to internet popularity. If The Young Bucks were better workers who have a solid grasp on ring psychology, who know how to work well with any style in the ring and shine someone up or get heat, yes, their internet credibility would be an asset but such credibility alone is not a strength.
People like the Bucks and Omega have talent and skill and potential but they're hardly the pinnacle of the contemporary workers in the business. Yet some consider them to be as a FACT when it's not, it's an OPINION, because if you judge them against the best of their contemporaries using objective criteria, they fall short.
Perfectly said. Omega and the Bucks are extremely athletic and could probably become fantastic wrestlers. Unfortunately, they never seemed to feel the need to get better since they became so popular. Now their just doing the same shit over and over and will never grow their popularity. Its unfortunate, I was really hoping AEW would give WWE a run for their money.
"hey, Jim"
It was at the Bowling Green, KY show. I was at that show. I'm surprised Jim didn't go off about the Chuck Taylor spot on that show where he threw a post-match fit and left via jumping over the outfield wall.
If you squint your eyes, I think they're both cosplaying as Scorpion.
~ RVD
ALL PETITE WRESTLING
The Bucks created themselves as legends in their own minds. They rely on merch sales and have Meltzer in their pocket. Not a fan, lucha hybrid and high spots gets old quick.
15:29 "FUCK." lmao
Oh we are not wrassling Cornette num num num num we are not wrassling num num num
AEW can't draw shit, they'll never draw a 100,000 stadium like WWE!
Since I recently finished watching the Jordan documentary I have an analogy:
A wrestling card is like the Bulls in MJs second run. You have the headliner who brings in most fans (Jordan), some co-main event guys with dedicated bases who can fill out the arena and main when needed (Pippen, Rodman), a midcard of guys who might be something or were something long ago (Kukoc, Kerr, Longley, Harper), and a low card of young, opening match talent who might one day be something (basically everyone else).
The Bucks' use of NJPW to build them up in ROH and eventually AEW is basically what would happen if Steve Kerr was belligerent on the Bulls, used media to convince the Spurs he was the reason they succeeded, went to San Antonio, convinced the public he's the reason the Spurs won their title, and used all that to become the player-GM of the Golden State Warriors.
This of course is not real life. Kerr was a great company man who enjoyed titles with Jordan and Pippen in Chicago, then Robinson and Duncan in San Antonio, and was happy to be a role player who learned from all stars. At the end of his career, he used that knowledge to become one of the NBAs best coaches, winning 3 titles with the Warriors. He has a resume few can match and is undoubtedly a legend for that .
Or you could do what the Young Bucks did and expose yourself as a fraud to anyone with the blinders taken off on a weekly basis.
Also GM of the Steve Nash Phoenix Suns and TV announcer
Excellent analogy
Perfect analogy, especially about the card roster.
Kukoc was more than a your giving credit for. Their wouldn’t have been a game six if Jordan didn’t steal the pass that was meant for Kukoc in game 5. Kukoc was 11/13 that game and Jordan was 9/26. But that was missing for the Jordan propaganda film that was the last dance.
A poor choice, rather a hard option for comparisons, a movie or circus may have suited better, but good / well done nonetheless... provided you a NBA nut.
🤣😂 The thumbnail OMG!!!!!!!!!!!
They say cornette wanted to work with the bucks of youth lol
It's like Matt Riddle trying to get Brock to work with him
@matthew tant several weight classes below Brock
Matt Riddle would get murdered by Brock
He’s making more money from the creation of aew. Love it or hate it
He's now dependent on reviewing AEW for a large part of his income.
@Joe Greene They just so desperately want to credit AEW for something...anything, and it's almost impossible for them.
@@anotheronefrompaul7395 😅😂💀 omg a while back Cornette was complaining about "barely clearing 6 figures" the previous month, I think JC is just fine without AEW.
@Joe Greene yeah but he's still making more money now than before. Angry idiot marks come to listen so they can shit on him, then they keep coming back for more and more.
More marks viewing = more money for Corny
Jrod 87 906 if that is true then he needs to move on. But yet here I am talking about a guy who still lives in the 80s style of wrestling to move on. He’s doing fine. Leave aew out of it and focus on the old stories.