Jim Cornette on Jim Ross Upsetting AEW Wrestlers
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- čas přidán 13. 12. 2020
- From Episode 170 of Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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Imagine being upset about advice from someone who's been In the business since 1972 and signed some of the biggest names in the history of the business.
The nerve of these guys
Sad /funny thing is their biggest news maker was the debut of a man who came up with Ross and talks proudly of the vets he listened to.
you talking about JR or Corny? hahaha
Sure but it comes down to what Jim and Brian say here, they're not trying to do anything the way the business has been done in the past, they're trying to do their own thing which is pretty different on some significant levels.
@Nathaniel Baxter that's my point hahaha both can be applied to those guys
Dutch Mantell said it long time ago. "The marks are now the wrestlers".
That's why they don't want to listen to JR.
YES, yes, yes
🎯💯
Yep.
Only difference is that JR is still trying to reach these idiots and Corny's accepted that wrestling is dead and isn't coming back.
I don't think it's why they don't wanna listen to JR. I think both are just instances of them not caring. I doubt either have much influence on the other instance. The "talent" (used loosely) would have acted the same w/o outside influence. It's who they are.
@@DirtyMac5151 You're not wrong about that. I wonder how long before the legends decide they've got enough money and it's time to go home. Gene Okerlund said it best, the tail's wagging the dog.
Jim explaining that JR actually said they "cluster up like quail" was so funny to me.
"You couldn't get this guy over with a ten thousand pound tank of helium"
2:20
Next A.E.W. champ :
Doug Funnie....
Oh absolutely. Its the natural heel in him basically saying that this generation of "get it on the internet and get views, fast!!" is so sloppy and humanoid... ham and egger... sorry I morphed into Bobby Heenan. . But yeah, that was great!! 😅 (he even used the term Weasel... 🙏🙏)
@@polymathing such a uniquely but automatically-know-its-Cornette piece of hyperbole!!
Imagine thinking you're good enough to not take JIM ROSS'S advice.
The only people that would be too good for JR's advice are the ones that he wouldn't give advice to in the first place...because they don't need it.
It's like a nba bench warmer turning down advice from Pat Reilly.
CM unk thought he was too good to take advice from and feud with Taker. Sums current wrestlers up.
@@chrismorgan8330 f jr
@@nathantturnert1631F You
When constructive criticism is confused for ripping.
I agree. I swear, one time I gave some constructive criticism to a younger coworker at a side gig I worked at over the weekends. He decided to be a little bitch and give me lip. Thank God that was my last day at the side gig.
What is even sadder is watching the wwe trolls try to troll this situation.
@Chris Terry if you look at anything. To someone elses eyes it may look sad or funny. Look you could be the president of the US and still be the butt of someone joke. While still getting pity by another person.
What's even more sad is if you have no interest in the topic following said topic could be really sad and depressing.
That is merely the obvious though.
@V B all AEW marks act like the WWE molested them when they were children, they’re paranoid to the point where if you say something bad about AEW they always respond to you pretending that you are the WWE.
@Chris Terry Amen! I wish i could find the keys to that time machine deloren and drive my ass back to the 80s specifically 83-86' to watch how REAL pro wrestilng is done! PREACH Rev. Jim, PREACH! lol
So basically a portion of this roster are crying that Jim Ross said stuff. And they wonder why they are getting such a mixed reputation
Jim was right when he said the marks are in the locker room nowadays 😅
EXACTLY
@@kingjames6013 exactly aew is really bad with all these high spots bs
Wrestlers are the biggest marks. They get hurt feelings so damn easily.
Vince is laughing his Ass off because of this marks😂
"He's playing chess and they're trying to figure out how to eat the checkers" might be my favorite line yet
The things that bother Wrestling veterans is what bothers me too:
- not selling
- too much smiling
- short stories
- everyone thinks they're dragon ball z characters or power rangers with the strikes and leaps.
-soft wrestlers. This weakness is great material for the opposition. I want to see wrestlers get angry for being called soft over fan's and veteran opinions and use that aggression in the ring.
I want to see a "Donny brook"
WWE had their first donny brook match how’d you like it
@@AraksAG
It worked, thanks to professionals Drew McIntyre and Sheamus.
It's nothing he also didn't say to their faces, they can be mad about being publicly called out but its not like he's wrong.
Not even sure they can do that. If someone tries to help you and your roster privately, and you blow it off, that's on you. Maybe if they'd improved as talents he would have taken it publicly. Criticism that's done privately, with loads of qualifiers, is criticism that can be ignored. JR made for certain that they can't ignore him anymore.
Its gotten so bad he has to say these things publicly to save his reputation.
@@steveremo4761 you’re so right. AEW USED to be good.... they are going down the toilet now.... IMPACT wrestling has some REAL and good wrestlers that could help them out though.
maybe he did, we don't know
Jim Ross finally says it how it is
My guess is that he's starting to give up. It's no secret that he's given up announcing this nonsense, but now the cracks are showing. I can only imagine he's not interested in a contract extension, so the lips are loosening.
JR isn't a liar. Too much flipping around and it gets old quick.
they are drawing the same guys as WWE'S C show... JR is on point
From Corny and JR, should BE NO DEBATE. Just take the criticism and improve. These fellas been in the business for over 70years put together. You dont argue with that.
It does though
Plus J.R. Is also protecting his credibility when he says so so it would not be surprising that J.R. is gaining heat. I respect him for it.
@@recx2012 it shouldn't be any heat from the boys seeing how young the locker room is. Them guys should be learning and lifting.
Honestly jim cornett's passion for really should is inspiring. The fact that he will never sell his soul n dignity even for a paycheck teaches us to stay true to who we are and our morals
It teaches us that not everyone is lost.
Learn how to spell his name, mark..
@2005 Cool Year I think there was some fraud, but how much and if it made a difference its impossible to say right at the moment. Both sides are digging their heels in too deep. I find Biden and the media's zeal to proclaim this the most secure and free election in the history of time to be a bit offputting when it just happened a few weeks ago. When you have 50 states making up their own rules for how to conduct a federal election there is bound to be some level of shenanigans every time. I feel like both parties want it to be murky so they can save face with their voters no matter what happens, but its a dangerous game to play. I usually vote 3rd party in the presidential elections.
haha..if you really think this..ahaha. he shits on "garbage indy wrestling" yet pushed New Jack in his own promotion. Yea, cornette is really a hero for morals and dignity. ahaha.
@@jeffreythomas7466 yup, his own tiny promotion nearly 30 years ago in new jacks debut before he did anything like he became famous for. Cut sick promos and let dlo wrestle and Mustafa look good. Not with a billionaires sons money not on national TV and again new jack didn't do anything of the blading that he's become known for. Did you watch Smokey mountain and/or know the history?
Truth is the hardest thing for people to face. All the AEW wrestlers surround themselves with other similar indy style, video game , spot fest wrestlers, so they have no been told that their basics are garbage, their matches have no story at all, and everything they do looks meaningless. No one sells anymore, no one thinks of anyone else besides themselves, since they are all STARS now and they all know everything. It is sad , that when someone tells the AEW fanbase that their product is quite honestly SHIT, they can't handle any cristicism at all.
Its truly a shame when to try to explain this to aew marks they dont give 2 shits what you say to them because all they care about is beating wwe and now that JR finally exposed the company maybe now they'll listen
@@tenshi986 yeah most seem to hate WWE more than they like AEW it seems. Most have no clue how idiotic they sound when they defend AEW for doing the same thingd they shit on WWE for. I would like to say I'm surprised there are so many people that are so oblivious to their own hypocrisy, but if 2020 has shown us anything, it is that there is no shortage of hypocrisy and obliviousness to it in our society.
AEW fans are the mumble rap fans of wrestling.
@@tenshi986 AEW is a knee jerk reaction for upset WWE fans, and dont get me wrong , WWE has made some horrible television over the last 10 years, but to shit on WWE without being able to take criticism on the garbage that AEW does is just silly.
@@chef2234 its no surprise either that everyone talks shit about wwe and Vince but you dont see neither the superstars or Vince act like pussies about it
Finally, JR calls out all of his own co workers HAHAHAHA
It's downright astonishing, given how loyal he normally is - this is the man who forgave people from WWE and WCW for those disgusting "impressions" of him that *made fun of his Bell's Palsy*
@Chris Terry JR’s normally just a nice dude, but even he can’t take their shit anymore
@Chris Terry AEW is backyard wrestling, NXT is full of choreography and leg slaps, and the main roster is boring. It requires a lot of company loyalty to not throw the current product under the bus lol.
Bit late. But entertaining enough
@@jacobgriffin3579 Damn lol so true
He doesn't look like Kratos. He looks like Lactose.
Milquetoast
Soy
Full fat
Probably why I can't tolerate him
Dark Order #2... Stu? Grayson? looks more like Kratos I think, but Brandon...uh... yeah sorta. Brandon is totally just there because he's friends with the Bucks, but I think he does alright. They made him a jobber for a solid year, and now he's just finally getting wins, and it's only been over other jobbers so far, so it's not like they're overdoing it too much at least.
Ironically Cody is the only one who is any way liberal. I remember Booker T not liking the Young Bucks because they did not respect the vets when they did their tryout. We see why now.
I thought omega and mox were also?
@@252lg Omega perhaps, given he's bisexual, but I think Mox is another one of these crazies.
@@jesuszamora6949 so kenny omega is really bisexual or is that just a rumour lol??
@@jesuszamora6949 iirc there's that laughable bit of Jeff Hardy and Mox on Jericho's podcast, with them going on about weird conspiracy theories.
@@jesuszamora6949 if you voted for either asshole your part of the crazy train, only idiots and sheep think their vote for biden was somehow transcendent holier-than-thou and made them a good person. Lol
The funniest part is Brandon Cutler said something about, and he's only there because he's friends with the Bucks.
Not to be confused with Braxton Sutter (aka The Blade [or "The Baker" as Jim Cornette calls him])
I mean, the lack of self-awareness is fascinating, ha ha.
Who is Brandon Cutler ???
@@jordandupe398 I remember seeing him on the first show. He looked like a grocery store clerk.
@@jordandupe398 He's an AEW Dark allstar/Young Bucks lackey
Travis’ Artwork should be submitted to the Smithsonian
Its pretty obvious Jim isn't a AEW fan. He's cashing a paycheck.
@KaneMagus Exactly brother you hit the nail on the head. Criticism is not hatred. I criticized Undertaker when he hung Big Boss man in their Hell in a Cell match. I still was an Undertaker fan I just thought they went too far. Bunch of snowflakes these AEW fans.
JR has proven he'll do anything for money so probably.
I think it's a cheque and he can try and help them not ruin themselves but unfortunately they think they know better.
@@jeremyboehm5512 it's worse than fans not being able to take criticism it's the wrestlers
Is anyone who actually knows anything about wrestling actually a fan?
It’s so incredible how well all these segments of Jim and Brian being appropriately critical of The Elite age.
I've been pretty hard on JR since he signed up with AEW but... HE HAS TOTALLY REDEEMED HIMSELF.
He was 100% right
Yeah and we’ll probably see him phased out now. A lot of the aew guys are those cancel / don’t shame types and they won’t like this becoming so talked about
@@invertedname3099 Which is weird considering that they’re also secretly a bunch of MAGA goons who usually think the complete opposite
hehe, you said hard on.
Josh Wood THE TOWN’s THAT WAY
The roster of AEW embarrasses themselves just about any time they try to twist in the wind against veterans. Trying to rebut Jim Ross. Get over yourself, Brandon.
Your comment is technically incorrect because even Brandon doesnt know who he is.
Actually that is true since his gimmick is a D&D guy. He is literally role playing wrestler.
Love Brian sticking up for normal video game playing people.
Shit if they had a guy who looked and acted like kratos from God of War and workshopped it a bit, I would think he'd be a pretty good heel. Not some skinny fuck with red paint.
"I'm not dressing up like a God damn tetris block" 🤣🤣🤣
Maybe they should try listening to Ross. Sounds crazy enough to work 🤷♂️
The amount of shit I learned once I shut up and started listening to my bosses at work is mind boggling.
Khan is using daddy’s money. He’s not going to listen to anyone.
And Jake, Tully, Arn and now fucking sting. Jesus all the knowledge between the 5 of them... and as a bonus, they all have different strengths so one could learn a wide variety of shit.
@@marcleon1513 like Vince used his fathers? Shut the hell up
@@reeseangle9621 he took over his fathers company by buying out shareholders.......but facts eh?
"There wasn't this many F words!" It's an achievement to out-cuss Jim Cornette.
Join the military. He’s not even close.
I thought he said there weren’t as many f words, as if to say he cursed much more than JR did
@@iLLBiLLsRoastBeats same
Cornette is great at cursing & turns profanity into a fine art form... He swears so beautifully! 😂
Fn right!?!
Every time Jim said Cutlet made me Burst out laughing
This is so true and pisses me off too! One move that epitomizes this is the "Canadian Destroyer". It was a devastating and impressive looking move but now is treated like the DDT. When you have Dustin Rhodes doing the maneuver, and consistently only getting a 2-count, you know something is wrong. The Panama Surise should be a consistent finisher.
Jim Ross - Grilling JR Podcast:
“I told a kid the other day at AEW that everybody does the same fucking spot. All you guys go outside. You cluster up like quail”
“You stand there in a huddle, friends and foes together, side by side so you can catch some leaping idiot going over the top who never wins with this move. They are looking for the “holy shit chant. They love to hear ‘this is awesome’. It’s a spot folks. It’s a trapeze act.”
JR is absolutely right and he also won't have a job for much longer. The EP at AEW doesn't like when there criticized.
"I’ve ranted about this shit since I came to twitter, usually greeted by a bunch of twits with “All Elite” in their @ or bio telling me how I’m fucking stupid, well, dickheads, your own lead announcer, one of the most respected men in the industry is saying the same thing"
Bro, I’m so happy he finally said it. I knew he would eventually break his silence. He hates that shit more than any of us I’m sure. I’ve been saying it since they hired him, I bet he won’t be there much longer either. But I feel like he’s gonna quit before they fire him.
He’s right and this is going to be interesting.
They should be praising JR and Jim Cornette for speaking facts
@@RicGagger This isn't the first time he's said something about AEW. A few weeks ago he went on a rant on luchasaurus and Maksed wrestler not being utliazed.
Okay, so we have the Bucks dressed as the Globetrotters, Corny dressed as a Colonel (with an afro) and Ross dressed as a wizard. I already know this is gonna be a fun one.
Balding Buck cross eyed still chuckling
He’s going for that Jackie Moon look🤣🤣🤣🤣
It’s a semi pro spoof
Hey! I’m a homeschool mom. I’m not raising or teaching the Young Bucks, though. 😂
As a AEW fan.. Been there since first episode. I completely agree with Jim
Most people with half a brain would.
I literally roll my eyes with every suicide dive through the middle ropes. the only person doing it should be Darby Allin because at least his looks violent. everyone else looks like they're just pushing people.
@@Fifer1758 thank you. Darby does the SUICIDE DIVE amazing. Screw tope suicida
@@Fifer1758 >Darby looks violent
Bruh, he looks like a skinny soy boy who got put in lockers in High School. He's like what, 5'6 or 5'8? Lol, on top of being skin and bones. Sting was lumped with him to get him over. Poor Sting
@@TheAnonymousIndividual IDC what he looks like, what his middle rope dive. All the bigger guys look like they're basically just pushing and he flies through the ropes with speed and there is a hard collision.
Balding Buck has achvied full HBK cross eyes
Yet now where as interesting to watch
Man, they look like they hurt.
its uncomfortable to watch them sometimes
I still say that HBKsLazyEye is best online name ever.
All the crossed eyes. None of the talent.
Pretty much confirms the AEW locker room is full of indie basement dwelling marks
And butthurt snowflakes
And vanilla midgets that dont sell anything
@@-JAVY- na ma8 that's nxt
hater
@greenbay Exactly. I think it looks really bad when the talent is sitting around ringside like Marks & singing Chris Jericho's theme song
I just love the fact JR, touted by the AEW cult as being such a HUGE signing, is saying the same thing Jim has said since they started. "Hey he can't say we're stupid, he works for us!"
Brandon Cutler nothing more than the Buck’s stooge well said Jim well said
Cutler deserves to get Slapped for his tweet
Cutlet*
@@akkermansia1488 absolutely calling him that or Brandon Stooge Cutlet
He didn’t make it to the match, did he?
I'm not Jim Ross but I can see there's way too much silliness in the company and not enough badassery. They sound a bit like thin skinned whiners that don't want to be better and get good.
Theyre making too much money on those contracts. They gotta find some new indie guys cuz at least the new guys will be hungry.
Correct. Say whatever you will about the WWF/WWW, they have had some definite "BADASSES" throughout their existence. Kane was a BADASS. Braun Stroman is a BADASS. Wardlow and Brian Cage will be, but are too green to be there yet.
@@philanderphillips2309 Roman Reigns in 2020 is the embodiment of a badass.
People don't know JUST HOW MUCH the whole thing of vince wanting tall muscle heads has hurt the industry,because people now act as if going the complete opposite way is the best thing in the world, not every show needs 20 nfl reject meatheads but not every show needs 20 skinny olímpic gymnasts wannabe fucking arround
Im saying
God bless JR. About time someone besides Cornette calls out how amateurish they truly are. Hopefully more professionals and experts speak up, otherwise that bad show will never change.
AGREED.
When did JR ever pay his dues? He is a lucky Mark with outdated opinions.
@@samuelwoods164 hahaha look another troll 😂 People don't like my favorite wresting show 😭😭 Your just trying to discredit the experts because they point out all the flaws and you can't take it 😂😂
Back to your cave troll 😂😂
@@samuelwoods164 He paid his dues by being in the business for 46 goddamn years and knowing his shit.
@Michael Mayes i think they proberbly have behind the scenes. But the Middle-Aged Bucks and McFingerbang have filled aew up with there friends who are just as untalened as they are, so they always have a lot of backup backstage to get there way.
Watching a full episode of AEW is like watching 6 Will Ospreay matches in a row. Lots of athleticism, nothing but high spots, no psychology, no storytelling. I have honestly tried to give AEW a chance but like JC said, its like watching the Globetrotters every week.
Still true to this day
@@niranu78nah, it's like watching the Generals, or more likely the local highschool girls basketball team. Don't disrespect the Globetrotters like that
JR is spot on. The kicking out of finishers is far too frequent and kills the moves. I always enjoyed the opponent reversing, avoiding, or just barely slipping out of a finisher as much more tense and thrilling than people just kicking out of them multiple times. What's worse is when the match actually ends with something as flat as a roll-up.
Every finisher should be treated like Happy Corbin's End of Days because no one has kicked out of it since he arrived on WWE's main roster in 2016.
That is the most devastating moves in wrestling.
flatter than a plate full of piss or 4 o'clock
"I don't dress like a tetris!" 😂😂😂
bet those 29 likes made you feel like someone huh!? GTFO HERE!! I catch you in more comments ima blast you out livestream to everyone watching!!!
@@hughmorrisone-getit7234 He has now got 41 likes and you got O ... Bitch
Now my life won't be complete until Jim Cornette cosplays as a Tetris Piece
I have a feeling your life will never be complete then.
@@Bangingyourmom That's okay I'm used to it!
Jim Ross, always an honest guy. He really doesn’t have to care about any of it, he could walk away from the business and not suffer a bit....but he’s pointing things like this out because he cares about the business
Somewhat honest but not very forthcoming. He's saying the same thing that he's sniped at Cornette for saying. Just reinforces JC's credibility b/c 1) He called it what it was from the beginning and 2) he correctly assessed that JR was doing it for a check.
Brandon Cutler has literally not one ounce of charisma
Nick brown he is a jobber
Who’s that guy?
cutlet
@@sicrick234 exactly the point
Well to be fair, nobody has even an ounce of charisma because charisma doesn't weigh anything.
The sad part is people actually train mordern wrestlers to work like that. The trainers are just to blame.
Like those idiots that run the ropes and come to a complete stop. What is the point of running the ropes if you're not going to use the momentum?
They had a good trainer for the WWE name Bill Demott, but pussy like Kenny Omgea, Rusev, Zack Ryder, and the Dinosaur guy from AEW filed a complaint on him.
agreed, many trainers are just taking the money and getting them in the ring. the one whom trained stunt wasnt a marvel himself and had the worst promo in wrestling history and trained stunt. many vets now just dont care. they want to get their guys in for a cut if it applies to it and get likes on their twitter acnt to sell their fkn merch. ive seen it several times already and its pathetic. specially in my area where i live.
@@thesupervisor3270 I mean there was more than those guys. Maybe the guy was doing some bad shit even if he was a good trainer.
Reminds me of the pre-show video of Tessa Blanchard vs Sami Callihan back in January for the World title. Callihan and Jon Moxley met at Shark Boy's school, then Sami went to another school where he met the Crist brothers, and basically everyone in the package shit on Shark Boy being a terrible trainer who didn't teach anybody anything.
I’m AEW whenever someone talks sense and has the brains to back it up, they’ll get upset at you for exposing them
As much as I don’t agree with the outright hatred of anything high-flying, I DO agree with that spot where everyone stands around obviously waiting for someone to dive. It never impressed me as I can clearly see them waiting together (because they have to in order to do this safely) and it’s something that happens all too often (both WWE and AEW). It is overdone and old and makes everyone not flying through the air look like an absolute moron.
I’ve even heard Jim Ross talk about this before multiple times so don’t know why he’s getting more attention now for that.
idk it´s enough that one pussy gets butthurt and bitch and complain to Meltzer. I have never seen JR bury the Guys. He just gave his opinion which i agree on. We see that dive out of the ring pretty much multiple times in a Week and it looks stupid.
Someone with their own opinion. 🍻 I love Cornette, but you don’t have to agree with everything the man says to be a fan, and I’ll always disagree with his general dislike of the high-flying set. But you’re right about him being right about the stupid dive spot. They need to mix and smarten it up a bit with the spots.
The truth is almost always somewhere in the middle.
Acrobatics are like anything else, what matters is being good at it and entertaining with it; for example, Rey Mysterio is a high-flying lightweight, and everyone respects him, he really sold getting chucked into the side of a trailer by the nWo and it was must-see TV.
Stone Cold says the term “smarten me up” all of the time on his pod. JR is just trying to show these untrained backyard wrestlers how to do things the right way. Maybe AEW should listen to him so they can finally improve and get more viewers.
Knowing them the way we do, they don't wanna listen.
This thumbnail is fantastic.
The virgin AEW: "wE will igNORe Yu 💅🏻"
The Chad Ross, uniting every wrestling fan against those sissies.
Cutler couldn't get over at the top of a rollercoaster
Cutlet
Travis heckel you deserve a book. Jim needs to do a new comic book of the secrets of wrestling and have heckel illustrate it all. The guy is brilliant.
Also, there’s always been complaints of young wrestlers not paying attention to their elders. The difference now days is that those same young wrestlers are running the show. So there’s no way for them to understand their mistake. Just like Vince, they are surrounding themselves with yes men
Pretty obvious Tony Khan will keep one of greatest announcers in history over a bunch of interchangeable talentless indie jobbers.
Excalibur? 😂
You underestimate Tony's intelligence.
You would hope so!
You’re giving Khan too much credit. He thinks he’s one of the boys.
I’m sure Tony Khan will use this in an angle where he feuds with Jim just so he can try to be Vince during the Attitude Era
When I seen sunny kiss go 10 plus minutes with Cody and do the crossroads I knew they didn’t know what they was doing
I dont see what that has to do with anything. Realistically just because someone like sonny kiss presents themselves a certain way doesn't mean they csnt be tough or put up a competitive match.
They push the vanilla midgets and bury the big guys
@@zakrowe1301 But then once you see the way Sunny performs it just proves that the match shouldn’t have gone 10+ minutes. Nothing about the way Sunny wrestles screams competitive.
@@zakrowe1301 would you book sunny kiss as your champion yes or no ?
@@trapmontana9440 as a mid card champion, yeah. But that would be as high as he goes. I think you could tell a really good underdog story with sonny. Ideally aew would have a title lower than the TNT title, that would be perfect for him. Aews got a huge roster and only 2 singles titles.
He hurt some soy boy's feelings telling the actual truth.
Seriously this shit needs to stop. Feelings are way to overvalued today. You should be down on your hands and knees thanking God that Jim Ross took his time to try and help you.
Given how The Young Bucks and a lot of AEW people are MAGApedes, it's more like JR took a bite out of a bunch of Proud Boys
@@richardpreston7333 It's more a generational thing than a political one. The millennial generation was a perfect storm of conditions that lead to just about every single member of them being entitled and being way too easy to offend.
You had multiple generations of single moms raising kids so there wasn't even a grandfather around them when growing up, social media growing and maturing at the same time as the millennial generation which made them all feel like celebrities, and the whole participation trophies and attention all children received whenever they did anything, no matter how subpar it was; and when a person like that becomes an adult something like constructive criticism seems like a personal attack on them.
I don't blame millennials for this either. They had no control over how they were raised. This was all our fault, and I mean "our" as the members of generation X and boomers who raised these kids to act like this. You can't blame the monster for the carnage it caused, you gotta blame Dr. Frankenstein for creating the monster.
We failed and now we like to act like "oh these kids just don't get it, in our day people were made out of sterner stuff". No, we're all still made out of the same stuff, it's just that we spoiled the shit out of a generation of children and now we're upset at them for acting entitled as adults. Doesn't speak to our vast intelligence as a generation...
@@jamesteegardner2273 Yeah, here's why the "millennials are entitled" stuff doesn't hold up - I'm Gen Y (or I was until somebody found a more patronising nickname for my generation) and all my generation has done has been trying to find work amid economic downturn after economic downturn, trying to pay the bills when boomers who've only ever known secure job markets and job security go "Well, you're spoiled because of all those participation trophies we gave you!"
I live in Britain, and we're going to throw away everything that was holding this country together because all the entitled xenophobic boomers decided that being part of a democratic trade pact was bad because then brown people might come in and that hurt their feelings, so now Britain's run by a racist serial groper who let tens of thousands dive from Covid and all the boomers over here are whining because America's racist serial groper who let tens of thousands die from Covid got voted out of office, and he was supposed to make fucking everything up for no good reason worth it.
The Young Bucks and their stupid clique are spoilt, stupid, whiny and entitled because that's just what MAGApedes and Brexiteers and all the other alt-shite fuckheads are. Like that incel terrorists who killed people because girls didn't want to touch their ding-a-lings. Going "Yeah, well, millennials!" won't change that.
@@richardpreston7333 OK. I hope you feel better getting that off your chest. Good luck to you, I hope you're able to work through that anger.
Wrestling is like Dragon Ball, the big attacks never kill anymore. They look cool and show some effectiveness but they’re not the devastating attacks they used to be.
The phrase “This isn’t ballet” seems to be lost more and more by the day.
I'm waiting for someone to pull off the ballet dancer gimmick. Graceful Gary Greene prances to world heavyweight title. Book it.
@@ericdale4641 Kenny is halfway there considering JC's nickname for him, Twinkle Toes McFinger Bang.
Not for nothing, but Ballet is tough as hell.
Look at their feet!
@@ericdale4641 check out cara noir, hes a british wrestler. I'm quite surprised nxt uk haven't signed him yet.
It isn't ballet...yet. They're working on that.
I know it’s not really the same but imagine nba rookies getting upset and angry at Michael Jordan for giving them criticism and advice
I heard that actually happened. A rookie from UNC snubbed Jordan and Pippen.
Kwame Brown snubbed MJ and paid with his entire career being ruined after MJ ripped him a new one. Kwame’s baby sized hands didn’t help either.
Like who the fuck do these people they are
@@obi-wankenobi917 know it all little shits thats who they are lmao just look at them i bet some of them message tony or cody about JR
Allen Iverson enters the chat.
It blows my mind that one of the guys that scouted The Rock has to explain himself to these people. It also blows my mind that grown adults can't suck it up and take criticism and try to improve. The fact that someone from aew released an anonymous comment further solidifies my opinions of them as children.
The problem with AEW is that every match is the same.
WWE has the same wrestlers doing different matches.
AEW has different wrestlers all doing the same match.
There should be a format on every wrestling show: two or three promos, a mat based match, a high flying lucha match, an occasional brawl or schmozz and a main event match which has at least an element of the previous matches on the card
@@sunshineholmes3487 different matches ?
What was the difference between Andrade and Angel vs Street profits #12 and Andrade and Angel vs Street profits #56 ?
@@lautheimpaler4686 How about
Orton vs Drew - regular match
Orton vs Drew - ambulance match
Orton vs Drew - HiaC
Orton vs Drew - another regular match
@@sunshineholmes3487 They're all same to me because I didn't watch any of them.
I lost my interest in professional wrestling after Lana and Lashley broke up.
also, the profits vs Garza and Almas matches becoming less frequent was the final nail in the coffin. Nowadays I only watch Lele Pons and Lilly Singh videos.
Jim🌽 et is more enjoyable than any wrestling right now
I see what you did there. Corn (🌽)-et
You had me at 🌽 et
I told em so back in 2012...now hes singing and the talent is deaf...
I never watch any new wrestling matches or shows but I can listen to 🌽y all day
Q: Who gets into something that they want to allegedly be a part of and then proceed to shit on half of the things it takes to make that thing up.
A: The current generation of superhero comic book writers and editors come to mind.
You, sir, are accurate af.
Haven’t heard a truer truth In a looong time.
That also applies to the people currently making Star Wars, Star Trek, and Doctor Who
If it works in front of 25 people in a bingo hall it must work in front of 700 thousand people on tv
The bucks actually more athletic in the cartoon than they do in real life.
JR and corny couldn’t be more correct. Bucks and friends got their feelings hurt 😂
NICE touch with the Kentucky Colonels jersey on Jim. The red white and blue one is more iconic, but they wore green and white when they played at the Lousiville Gardens.
Ftr took jr's side . can't wait until ftr has had enough and start beating the guys for real
Brandon Cutler can't even hold his balance on the top rope.
cutlet
"Jim Ross is a wizard" would be a pretty darn good character concept for Dungeons & Dragons.
JR cast a spell "By the Dark God he's dead!"
@@DarksaberForce A spell that freezes an opponent's character for a turn called, "Don't do it, kid!"
"This spell's tougher than a $2 steak to recite, so if you could shut yer damn mouth and let me call the damn incantation, we could go home!" J.R. The Wizard
He's not Wrong in his Words. But the Reaction he is getting is Most Concerning how they would blow him off.
None of those clowns in that company care about the history of the sport or great advice given by someone that's been around for a great amount of time.
They're young and awesome! Why should they listen to a fat old man stuck in the past?
Kidding. It's a crowd of puffed up Indy-lads high on their own farts. Not to mention I think JR is getting tired of them turning their back on him every time he makes an off-color joke to try and liven things up.
@@aluminumsalmongames6277 Pretty sure Jim ross commentating sexually derogatory names during womens wrestling only livens up a crowd of creeps
@@brndn3372 Wrestling fans *are* a crowd of creeps...lol.
Alternative title: Thin skinned "superstars" think constructive criticism is a burial.
The man literally hurried AEW, AEW is basically spot fest wrestling JR pointed this out and made some condescending remarks. It makes the talent look dumb, whether it’s true or not commentators should not be burying talent
They should have that in AEW... ALTERNATIVE TITLE.. AEW Wrestlers 199 lbs or less...
@@mara10na4ever9 CRITICISM AND BURIAL ARE NOT SYNONYMS. Were the talent pulled off TV? Was their merch discontinued and pulled? Did they stop getting booked? If you can't answer ALL THREE questions with a "yes", then it is, by definition, NOT a burial.
Now, you have been explained and had demonstrated to you multiple times that you have zero fucking clue how the business is supposed to function. Are you so thoroughly incapable of acknowledging your lack of expertise in something that it just doesn't compute?
I am honored to revisit this historic moment in the All Friends Wrestling lore. The christening of the one, the only, Brandon Cutlet.
The Brandon Cutlet name made me laugh every time he said it
I would love an episode where Cornette explains how he would build a federation from scratch in today's wrestling environment based on everything he's learned. Would be a fascinating listen.
I know this is a year or more old, but he basically explained that on his OVW Deep Dive video.
@@babayagaslobbedaknobba I might have listened to that afterwards. Actually grew up in the OVW territory, watching it late at night on the CW, though I believe I caught the very end of Cornette's run at the helm
JR is 100% right, but he WILL backtrack all of this in the next week lol
Or disavow it outright.
He's already traded away all of his remaining dignity for a job he hates, so yeah, probably.
Bah gawd
@@Dr170 Tony Kahn is a great money mark, If Tony paid me big money, I’d say how great Marko stunt and Kenny omega are all day long.
Depends if he's cranky that morning when he records the pod with Conrad or not. 'Red Ass' JR is a real thing, lol. His rants can be as funny and angry as Corney's, seriously. This is the first time it's made news, but he's been talking about stuff like this for many months.
I immediately came here after listening to this part on the podcast hoping Travis’ artwork would be Jim dressed as a Tetris L block. I am severely disappointed, but pleased that I seem to have created a new game for myself called “guess that Travis artwork”
I really feel like listening to these kinda moments in Corny’s or JR’s podcasts, really help anyone trying to be a pro wrestler
Lighten up marks🤠 - Jim Ross ~ probably
I like AEW but the more it goes on the more Omega and the young bucks bore me.
U can call out and predict every more, or spot the young fucks will do in 14 min match
Ever since he started winning on Dark, Cutlet started adding base to his voice 😂😂😂😂
Also, Nick has achieved the Ruthless Aggression HBK look in that picture 😂
Bass*
My girlfriend watched wrestling for the first time a year ago. She's only seen AEW, loves the flippy stuff the Bucks do, and even she thinks 7 on 7 is an unnecessary clusterfuck that won't make any sense. 🤷🏼♂️
Brian knows about God of War. i like him even more now.
Hell Yeah never played not one except the newest one and it was amazing. I want that company to do an MCU Thor game.....or a Superman game that would be tight.
@@madtricky687 Those devs were born to make Planet Hulk. Seriously.
Damn straight. Can't wait until Ragnarok is released.
make Corny play GoW haha
You’re surprised he’s familiar with one of the most popular video game franchises ever ?
Yep. You get everyone used to finishers and high flying moves being the norm and they will be desensitized to the basic stuff, resulting in even more dangerous gymnastic moves to draw up excitement.
Heck, I remember a time when a wrestler going up on the ropes would make me feel anxious. That meant he was serious. Now it barely gets me to glance at the screen from whatever else I'm doing since they're up there nearly half the time.
Good way to describe
All Japan did the same thing by repeatedly overdoing head drops for "realism", and it LITERALLY KILLED Mitsuharu Misawa. What happens when one of these barely-trained "wrestlers" gets going too hot for a dangerous spot he doesn't know how to execute safely, and someone dies, as a result?
I love how Jim Ross is a wizard
Right? Hilarious.
@@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812 not so much funny as it is insightful. Jr is Essentially AEWs wizard
When I read what Ross said I immediately thought 'yeah, you'd stand out and be considered innovative these days by not doing dives'
If I ever become a professional wrestler, which probably won't happen, I'll lower my expectations, listen to the veterans, and learn to #WrestleTheRightWay.
The last time I remember seeing Mr. Cutlet on TV was, if I remember correctly, a sub 5 minute loss to MJF.
He’s now an AEW Dark scrub, cosplaying Dungeons & Dragons
God I've heard it enough times already but the Brandon Cutlet bit still makes me legitimately laugh out loud.
I love it when Brian uses Jim's nicknames. He usually stays away from it, so it's funny to me. Your podcasts help a lot during the week working.
When Jim was talking about not dressing up as a Tetris block, I about lost it. Lol. 😆 😆
Brian jumping to defend videogames was hilarious. How dare you?!
Lmaooo I love how quick Brian defends Kratos and GoW.
"He needs a therapist." I would listen to JR instead of a cutlet.
The only person who retweets and like Jim Ross criticisms are FTR and Will Hobbs.
And those guys ended up to be more than happy to partake in the same shit they say they dont like. FTR losing because of a flip off the rope and Hobbs jobbing in a one punch KOd by Cassidy in 3 seconds. These people shouldn't be retweeting anything about any of this stuff anymore
@@Stizzfoshizz you don't get why FTR losing like that makes sense?
@@PontFlair It doesn't make any sense no matter how they try to twist it into some "trying to beat them at their own game" BS. It was a bad spot and completely unbelievable to their gimmicks as "true tag team wrasslers" or whatever the fuck they been trying to sell themselves as. They bashed that type of shit in interviews and this podcast. Then they not only agreed on a spot like that, but to also lose from it? LOL keep drinking that kool-aid
I knew JR wouldn’t be able to bite his tongue forever. I’ve been saying it for a year, JR will speak his truth on his podcast eventually. I figured he would wait til his contract up tho. 😂😂
AGREED.
He couldn't take it anymore I don't blame him.
Me either. I’m honestly surprised he hasn’t quit. They must have given him a fuck ton of money 💰
@@RicGagger can't hate on the hustle tho, JR making bank and he probably knows Tony Kahn won't fire him
@@1KQ_ I don’t hate it at all. I’m glad he’s speaking the truth, knowing all those he spoke about have to see him every week and they can’t do anything about it.
"You couldn't get this guy over with a 10,000 pound tank of helium"
2021 later, and they're still jumping off and doing dumber stuff while JR groans
WOW aew, thanks for listening to JR!
JR and Cornette aren’t wrong. Modern wrestling matches SUCK. It’s spot after spot after spot. Acrobatic move after acrobatic move... Little to no interactions with the crowds. And they spam finishing moves. Today’s wrestlers should watch and study the old school shit and learn. Watch Jake the Snake, Rick Rude, Ric Flair, Dusty Rhodes, Razor Ramon, Bret Hart, Randy Savage....
The fact That the AEW wrestlers Were upset means That they completely missed the point. If I were a wrestler I would value someone who has been in the wrestling industry for years’ feedback
Same. I would take the criticism as a way to push myself on understanding and perfecting my craft.
One of the FTR boys spoke on Twitter on JR's behalf. "Imagine not listening to criticism from the men & women who’ve shaped our profession, and paved a road that allows you to make a living today; all because they hurt your feelings.”" @DaxFTR =).
I love Jim's laugh at the end so poetic LMAO..