How We FIT a WORKING Clutch PEDAL To the 8SPEEDs
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- How We FIT a WORKING Clutch PEDAL To the 8SPEEDs
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The 8HP is going to make this channel blow up to another level. 8HP VS THE WORLD !!
Don’t get me wrong, can’t wait to get back to race cars. But learning an developing what we can do with these transmission is super interesting.
@@ZeroTo60Tube 100% and I think that's what will set you guys apart from the other channels that will inevitably pick up on this. GG
but no hill/tow/push/10~mph starting is a dealbreaker vs a tremic Tr6060 for some people/me but yeah it's tempting to get a hellcat-transmission instead of my C7 drop-out
the features/hardware-gut's look like it should work but i don't get why it's not a option to work? ( had more than one starer-motor and or ring-gear/flywheel ( or weaker-battery that car started but not cranking ) go bad if is a regular automatic/OEM it leaves you stranded and at the mercy of strangers/surroundings some more friendly than others 😉 ) other wise im super tempted/feel i should have already got the 8Hp transmission instead for that part of my dodge project 60's car and put more effort into tuning/wiring as the tr6070 was a way of skipping out on it and adding old-school reliability/simplicity
either way im tuned-in watching the video/series 👍
I am finding this tech so interesting! I am an amputee and nearly have enough saved to pay for an R33 from TopRank here in the US and want to fit either an 8hp or possibly a DCT into it as I’ve only got my left leg (Afghanistan IED injury). I know you’ve shown partial installs, but if you ever have the opportunity to film a more in depth installation in a GT-R I know there are a lot of people who would love it. Thanks!
Wow, that's an absolute unit, guys! Have a great weekend. Regards Nico.
Only just stumbled upon this 8HP conversion stuff. I've been thinking for ages to replace the TH400 in my big old squarebody Suburban with a 4L80e, but the thought of doing something different and using an 8HP is seriously appealing.
the way the power comes on after the trans brake releases is crazy. looking forward to getting my swap started.
Basically let it make some boost and release the transbrake. instant power to the rears, then it just rows gears by itself.
this is mind blowing bro your channel is always showing something new that’s incredible and unique your content is 🔥 this would be a dream to have on my e92 i cant believe yall created something that works so seamlessly
Defs doing it in my next n54.
@@ZeroTo60TubeI want to do this to my z3
love to see you guys do one of these swaps in a VF2 Commodore
With my e92 drift car having constant clutch problems, this is an awesome budget sequential transmission solution. Best part is I can drive it like a normal auto on the street when I want on longer drives (I daily it A LOT).
Couldn't agree more!
Can't wait to see how the 8hp engine braking goes offroad in Maca's ute. Would be a big selling point for 4wd swaps...
And given the low ratio first gear - excellent for crawling rocks and shit.
Awesome content!! I can't wait to start my swap!!!
Good luck!
What is happening inside the trans to provide clutch feel effect, is it starving the converter of fluid or actually controlling the pressure plate for a given gear?
This is the coolest vid I have seen I A while!!! 8hp the world 😮!!!
Loving the new style content but cant wait for more n54 shenanigans😩
Me too. Me more than anyone. I miss mine a lot. Look up Kevin van voris, I’m currently in the sell everything to pay legal fees stage
These builds are epic, I saw an r33 in the background and the notch s13 brings back hood memories 🤙 Would you ever build an n54 8 HP swapped ford falcon? One close to the 70s preferably.
Man we have so many N54s laying around in the shop..... most have broken pistons.... so its on the cards one day.
@@ZeroTo60Tube n20s too. Im starting to see a lot of 228i pop on the market. I know they can never be an sr20 but they are basically step brothers.
Certain cars have that cherry on top when you do certain things. The Mac daddy of all will always be the LSx engines on other cars especially ford mustangs, but now and days why not an n54 on a classic dart or falcon. You end up being the judge when you get to it.
been thinking about this swap on my Rx3, still on the fence at the moment
Good job guys!
Hi, the clutch peddle kit do you have any for sale and if so can i have a price please
Hi i'm currently perparing my 8hp70z swap into my M54b30 turbo e46 track/drift car and I was wondering how you make de n57 flexplate work with the m54 crankshaft holes, is their an adapter? I will use a pcm adapterplate. thanks in advance, greetings from belgium
Bravo another epic video
Awesome. Love these builds.
Glad you like them!
Can you do a video explaining how the master cylinder works? I’m have an 8 speed swap in a e90 and wanting to add a clutch
dude do that shit asap man
Very impressed!
NO STOP IT!!!! I DONT HAVE THE DAMN MONEY DO TO AN 8HP SWAP!!! BUT YOUR MAKING ME WANT TO DO ONE!!!!!!
This is so dope!
Man is so strange to drive a 8 speed auto with a clutch pedal. Even in this video you can see how see just thinks he is in a manual and keeps using the clutch pedal. The electronic or vitual clutch just works!
What about connecting an 8HP to an M57 E46? would the turbolamik be necessary if going all bmw? is it necessary for running a clutch pedal setup like this? Diesel daily drifter is the idea. Love the idea of having the 8 speed as well as having a clutch pedal
Yes you will need the lamik or some sort of trans controller. Lamik is best option for clutch pedal that actually works
Great stuff. I can see you guys being very busy. 🙂
Man it’s hectic….. but while I’m waiting to know the outcome of my bs, it’s good to keep my mind busy.
I so want to do this to my jzx100 chaser, Time to get rid of the a340
MBDTF in the background, a man of culture
Thanks 🙏
Brock I need help you legend. I need a adaptor for a k24 to Holden frontera 5 speed. CNA you point me in the direction of who can make me one? Cheers love your work
I would use the Domiworks K24 adapter for the engine to trans, but the trans to transfer case will be a big job.
You've shown the "pedal" but how does it work on the other side? On the gearbox side, what's emulating a clutch?
The electronics switch a solenoid in the transmission that varies the pressure on the clutch pack its effectively a fly by wire clutch pedal
Do you know if running the turbolamik will be compatible with the 6hp26 at all and be able to run the same features as this with the manual pedal etc
it will not. Lamik no longer supports 6hp
Crazy Cool!
Yay, another 8HP video.
So if I get a lamik Trans controller for my a90 supra I can add a clutch pedal and shifter?
Yes, Lamik is currently working on a90 support. it will also help the cars get the 1/4 faster as well.
That's gangster , will one of those boxes fit into an r34 tunnel ? RB KIT ?
Have to do a 2j next time
We have one in a R33 no problems. But havent done a 34 yet
Hi there! 8HP question: can the clutch emulator from 8speed au work with a 328i / 228i or any other factory cat that comes with their stock 8HP45 transmissions? And what else would be needed for a factory 8hp car, just the tcu controller like turbo lamik?
We tried using the clutch on a 8hp45 and it lasted only 2 laps. The smaller 8hps will not take the abuse the clutch pedal puts them through.
I was wondering if you can put 8HP behind 1KD in my Prado 120 series??
We wont be much help, other than being able to supply a controller for the box. But there is a tonne of stuff to work out. Also as a pre warning, id expect it to cost around $20k to do that conversion.
Hi, in your experience, which adapter kit from a 2JZ to an 8 HP70 would you recommend as being more suitable, as I assume there are quite a few brands available?
We have used a couple. Favourite was the domiworks.
@@ZeroTo60Tube Thank you so much for your reply
Thats so cool. would it be posable to add a clutch petal to my RAM? that would be so sick lol.
You need the Turbo Lamik controller to run the clutch pedal with the 8hp. So if you can make a lamik work in your dodge, you could have a clutch pedal.
I’m putting a 70 in my S14 behind a 2J. Did you have to beat the tunnel for it to fit? I assume the S13 and S14 tunnels are similar.
Depends on how the 2J is mounted. This car already had a tunnel done for the previous upgraded manual box, but it would have needed a tunnel if it wasnt aleady done. On brocks S15 he had a half tunnel, but the 2j it basically touching the firewall, so he did need to change his tunnel as well.
Possible to fit an 8hp to the back of a 1jz in a toyota crown?
i think so
How difficult would be to do an 8HP swap on an N62 E53 keeping the AWD?
Still not sure exactly. But definitely doable.
Is it a converter from BMW diesel in this car or petrol?
Diesel
Hi, this is a awesome setup. Im doing the same to my car fitted with a 2jz doing 470kw. What i wanted to ask is i see you using a foot clutch to reverse and pull away in, and the using the trans brake for launch control. What i wanted to know is could you also use the clutch and rev the engine to like 4800rpm and the just drop the clutch, or will something break?
The clutch pedal fully overides the programming in the trans. So it will do what you are descriving and no it wont break anything in the trans at these power levels.
@@ZeroTo60Tube Thank you for the reply, this makes me happy lol
@@ZeroTo60Tube Hi, in your experience, which adapter kit from a 2JZ to an 8 HP70 would you recommend as being more suitable, as I assume there are quite a few brands available?
This is MEGA. How would that clutch spring adapter work for cars that have the brake and clutch fluid in the same reservoir. Example: bmw 135i
Or would there need to be a different approach?
Dude, there is no fluid in the drift clutch, the pedal is merely for foot control and feel. Lamik is still controlling lock up.
It would be a matter of just blocking off the brake reservoir where it ran to the clutch master cyl. Then remove the original master cyl and bolt this in.
@@trickster8635 I'm aware.
What I'm trying to say is the 135i does not have a separate clutch fluid reservoir like that 240. It shares the fluid from the brake reservoir, with the actual master being under the dash behind the pedal.
The unit they have developed for the 8hp clutch replaced the clutch master/reservoir in the 240. The 135i does not have one to replace like that.
I'm looking to sway an 8HP70 into a 2jz s13. Do I need to find a trans from a BMW? Can I use one from a V8 Dodge?
We recomend the BMW trans. The output shadt on the Jeep and Dodge 70's is 5mm smaller in diameter. If you plan on making decent power with chance of wheel hop or clutch kits the small output shaft may snap.
Hi guys. i wanna do an 8hp swap on my n55b30, which 8hp trans should i go for?
A n55 8hp45 will bolt on. These are ok for mod 500hp if you run tq reduction.
like its great your jumping into the 8hp scene but the hype like clutch with it and dcts is quite funny to me having a dct behind my 2j for 2 years now with a htg controller and cbw, like it's great its becoming mainstream but has been here for a long time already
No one really talks about the way they have set these clutch pedals up and there hasnt been an off the shelf option for people before. Do you like the HTG setup? Also curious if you use it for daily driving?
@@ZeroTo60Tube we did 4 htg setup thus far and I can tell u it’s mint
@@ZeroTo60Tube it was a daily drive before bubs, now weekend warrior, is a jzx110, will be honest htg updates have broken stuff along the way but its the price i pay for being a early adopter, but always kept backups of old tune and firmware to jump back if it did, took a very long time to get clutch take up and shift cuts 100%, and dont get me started on part throttle stuff, alot of hours spent with my tuner "lucky he's a mate and likes doing cool shit" doing normal driving to get the manners correct, wot up was piss easy decel down was the annoying one too, so many variables to get right, as it sits i wouldn't touch it anymore and just enjoy it now but i would say its like 98% but its not worth my effort for the last 2%
Thats awesome and the way it should be.
do you offer solution for a 340 iX that i use in the snow ? i want to add a clutch !
While its doable. its not something we have done yet.
@@ZeroTo60Tube i currently buy a manual each year but going on the F31 LI 2 or G20 or G80 no manual + xdrive is available !
Hi, just saw the update video on the giveaway. How do I collect my 8 speed shirt?
Huge thanks for running the giveaway!
Oh man!!! Email me at 8speed.au@gmail.com. Will need to know your full name and address.
Sick !
Why not just attach the pedal to a small gas strut or an old bike shock to get progressive feel?
Same difference.
Unfortunately not enough room to run anything with realistic dampening. We looked at small shocks, but when you up the dampening to realistic clutch feel levels they start to flex in a way that really looks like they won’t last.
This unit is designed to house oil and a piston for dampening. However the risk of a an oil seal and potential leaks have lead to this being what we think is the best product for a long term solution. You have to remember drifters are brutal on that left pedal.
@@ZeroTo60Tube counter lever sorta thing, get to a stage and it counters over and feels like the biting point
Would this work with a dct for virtual clutch?
Yes it will
Hey I’m super interested but have a question, my cars an mx73 with tube chassis 13b and soon to be zf8hp, I was wondering because my girlfriend sometimes drives the car, could I use this just for the hydraulic handbrake and for clutch kicks extensions and feel while drifting, but still be able to shift to reverse drive neutral even put it in sequential so I could use the paddle shifters without use of the clutch, I specifically want the feeling while transitions and initiations and the handbrake but don’t want it to be required when using the car
This would allow me to transition from my w58 and let my girlfriend learn to drift without being overwhelmed by the complexity of shifting and clutching while rev matching and going for the handbrake,
Also so that she doesn’t destroy my car on the first go
with the turbo lamik, you dont need to use the clutch pedal. Its just there as an option for any mode.
This is witchcraft!!! Amazing work boys
It is amazing how real it feels. Guys trying it for the first time immediately forget they are in an auto and use the clutch to change gear or stop.
what flex plate was used in brents 2jz 8hp swap? can you use a atf billet ?
We used a standard jz auto flex plate. Fairly plentiful to get around here. Since most were autos.
@Zero To 60 yeah I'm in aus too. Just with a bit of power they break the inner bit
@@dylanbuckley6354 what do you class as a bit?
@@ZeroTo60Tube 600hp
@@dylanbuckley6354 well this is 525hp a the hubs and about to be put through a spanking of a lifetime consider the car will be clutch kicking pretty solid.
I am sold. I want an 8HP auto conversion on my ranger. Any chance of making an adapter plate for that?
We have the 3.2 Ranger on the list. Which version is yours?
@@ZeroTo60Tube 2013 T6
@@kentweyers1845 sweet, with the 3.2l 5 cyl?
@@ZeroTo60Tube that's the one.
Is it possible to add this to a SRT 300 with the 8HP?
It would be if you had an aftermarket controller.
@@ZeroTo60Tube is that possible in a factory configuration?
Can I do this on a ZF 8HP51?
We tried with a 8hp45 and fried the clutches pretty quickly. We are currently testing out a 8hp50. Im not confident, but we will know soon.
@@ZeroTo60Tube I have a Pure Stage 1 (upgraded clutches) would that work?
@@stonybrooknick I think with pure clutches it would be ok. But definitely speak to pure first. With the clutch pedal you are forcing slip while making a heap of engine torque. TCU support for the 8hp51 is a few month away, but its coming.
From which car do you get the 8HP70
Depends on the conversion, the engine and what adapters are available.
@ZeroTo60Tube well I'm in the US, and if I ask, I need a transmission that for N57 or B57, they are going to look at me like I'm crazy. I wanted to know which BMW vehicle has the 8HP70. Due to clearance, if i get the 8HP70 from a different manufacturer, that isn't BMW. I can find 8HP45, but I've been reading, and hearing from others is that you don't want the 45.
@@cesarortega6615 Well you are limited by what will bolt to the engine or adapter kit. There are about 100 different versions of 8hp and an adapter will normally only suit 1 or 2 of them. For exampe the N57 8hp70 and n47 8hp45 have the same bell housing but different tq conversions which requires a different adapter. The only safe way to identify the transmission is by what engine it was bolted to. Google will help you work out what model cars they are from.
@ZeroTo60Tube it is going behind a 2JZ, and the adapter it is not the issue it is the limited space in my 08 BMW 328i. I can get it from a different vehicle but I don't want to cut the transmission tunnel.
Its fairly well documented that the n57 8hp70 will fit in a e9x chassis. Domiworks make a JZ to n57 adapter..... I'd say this answers your first questions. You should get the trans from a 8hp70 powered rear wheel drive car.
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Would these 8-speeds fit into smaller capacity diesels like the ZD30's? Yeah, I know, plenty of haters but the ZD does actually work well when setup right, just sucked backwards with shitty gear spacings of the factory truck cog-swapper....
Why bugger around with a ZD that could explode without notice? Just swap M57 and 8HP as a package. Done deal.
It would be possible. But honestly Probabaly a cheaper exercise to grab a m57 donor car and do the m57 donor then mate it to the 8hp as the m57 to 8hp plates are cheap.
@@trickster8635 Ignorance is bliss, isn't it?
Mine just shy of 500K and still going well.
$950?? Damn, but if you can get a plug n play kit to work with E60 then OK :D
Said cheaper solution but it’s 995.00 AUD 😂
Correct the hydraulic version runs around $300 more.
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