Troublesome 50-110!

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  • čas přidán 18. 11. 2023
  • Join us as we work through a number of issues on an interesting Winchester 1886 in 50-110.

Komentáře • 103

  • @michaelsicowitz362
    @michaelsicowitz362 Před 7 měsíci +22

    I sure hope you're passing your knowledge on to someone who appreciates it. Your lifetime of passion for these great old historic firearms is awesome to watch. What a beautiful ranch and your knowledge of geology is also really cool. That geothermal episode was great.

    • @thecinnabar8442
      @thecinnabar8442  Před 7 měsíci +6

      Thanks a bunch Michael! I've been very lucky to have some phenomenal mentors, both in gunsmithing and geology. Since we live in a very remote area, I haven't found someone locally who shares my passion for vintage firearms. That's about to change though. Keep an eye out for a major announcement coming up on the channel soon. Thanks for watching.

  • @8023120SL
    @8023120SL Před 7 měsíci +2

    Waking these lovely old things from their hundred year sleep and helping them talk again is a special experience.

  • @jimfrieze525
    @jimfrieze525 Před 7 měsíci +1

    "Well, that's not good." Lol. Love it Mark!

    • @thecinnabar8442
      @thecinnabar8442  Před 7 měsíci

      Haha! That was me trying to keep the channel "G Rated". I couldn't blurt out what I was really thinking while the camera was rolling. 😉

  • @johngallagher2313
    @johngallagher2313 Před 7 měsíci +4

    It is great to see an old rifle like that get back into firing condition.

  • @Bob-bb3ur
    @Bob-bb3ur Před 7 měsíci +2

    The old girl gave you some problems, but you got her cooking.

  • @357Dejavu
    @357Dejavu Před 7 měsíci +4

    Very fun cartridge for shooting!

    • @thecinnabar8442
      @thecinnabar8442  Před 7 měsíci +2

      Yes, it is! Thanks for watching!

    • @Robert-fs1pb
      @Robert-fs1pb Před 7 měsíci +1

      The smoke trail goes farther than the bullet goes.

  • @roadking99jokerst60
    @roadking99jokerst60 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I'm happy that this channel comes up in my recommendations. Always an enjoyable viewing. (And the wind would be in your face, today.)

    • @thecinnabar8442
      @thecinnabar8442  Před 7 měsíci

      Thanks a bunch! Yea, I didn't think that through when I was setting up to shoot. 😀

    • @ofreen
      @ofreen Před 7 měsíci

      @@thecinnabar8442 The smoke probably cleared out a little quicker for the follow up shots that way.😁

  • @johnmollet2637
    @johnmollet2637 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I never realized the relationship between the lever and the firing pin. Great video Mark, thank you for sharing your knowledge with us

  • @AngelRodriguez-du5rp
    @AngelRodriguez-du5rp Před 7 měsíci +2

    I love the 1886...it's my favorite Winchester Lever action rifle. I have a few 😊

    • @thecinnabar8442
      @thecinnabar8442  Před 7 měsíci +1

      How's that Lightning running, Angel? Were you able to get some larger diameter bullets to shoot through it?

    • @AngelRodriguez-du5rp
      @AngelRodriguez-du5rp Před 7 měsíci

      @@thecinnabar8442
      I have looked into it but I want to make certain I do not buy too hard a a bullet. I have to watching one of your videos I notice you said that it was important that it shouldn't be too hard. Duck season's coming up and I have a friend of mine who I normally go with up to New York State so every day is full of something new to do... Especially work 🤦

  • @johnnyholland8765
    @johnnyholland8765 Před 7 měsíci +1

    The 50-110 is the Holy Grail of 86,s Don't see many of them especially the button mag guns. Thanks for the tip on correcting head space. My 40-82 was that way when I got it. Primers would back out. The barrel was a sewer pipe so I opted for a new barrel much to the lament of my pocketbook. Got it from winchesterbarrels out of Florida. It is a shooter now. That is a lot of bullet for a lever gun...

  • @joelowery6919
    @joelowery6919 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Mark, you make every problem look so easy to solve! Good work and keep 'em coming!

  • @National757
    @National757 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Always love your videos from start to finish. But the best part is always hearing your laugh and seeing your satisfaction when you full the trigger and the rifle works as intended! Thanks for sharing!

    • @thecinnabar8442
      @thecinnabar8442  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Thanks! This one was even more gratifying after the dreaded "click".😀

  • @BV-fr8bf
    @BV-fr8bf Před 7 měsíci +1

    A novice does learn a GREAT deal from this channel!

  • @billfisher6708
    @billfisher6708 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Wow! Awesome! A real beauty!

  • @coelagos8645
    @coelagos8645 Před 7 měsíci

    I loved seeing the process of restoring that piece to working order, very informative. I'm sure the owner was thrilled as well.

  • @robr1656
    @robr1656 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Another great episode.
    What a dandy cartridge.
    The 86 is one of my favorites models!
    Thanks

  • @cj4freedom856
    @cj4freedom856 Před 5 měsíci

    I admire how you stick with a problem gun till it is fixed completely, even when new breakdowns appear.

  • @daveclemons1225
    @daveclemons1225 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Great Video Mark! Real world issue's pop up when working on firearms. That is one neat rifle, you brought it back to life and was able to shoot it! It was fun watching you fix all the issues that came up! Sure like watching your video's. I have learned alot. Thank you.

    • @thecinnabar8442
      @thecinnabar8442  Před 7 měsíci +1

      You're very welcome, Dave! I'm glad to hear you enjoy them.

  • @cervus-venator
    @cervus-venator Před 7 měsíci

    Thanks and as always - very interesting stuff.

  • @AlexCausey
    @AlexCausey Před 7 měsíci

    1886 lever in 45-70 with 26" barrel is my favorite. Nice repair job on the 50-110. I've fired a Sharps falling block 45-90 and a Springfield trap door 50-70 but never a 50-110. 👍

  • @paulvenn4447
    @paulvenn4447 Před 6 měsíci

    Currently restoring a 1892 for my wife, loving the content on this channel.

  • @mrj10101
    @mrj10101 Před 7 měsíci

    I love to hear that happy chuckle 👍

  • @wilberfifer5563
    @wilberfifer5563 Před 7 měsíci

    Thank you, I always enjoy your content,

  • @texaswader
    @texaswader Před 7 měsíci

    I learned a lot from this video Mark. Well done!

  • @dogbone1358
    @dogbone1358 Před 6 měsíci

    Wow! Nice job Mark. Amazing workmanship!!

  • @loupuleff571
    @loupuleff571 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I'm glad you did another inside video I can see very well Now. That said your getting me hooked on lever guns I have one a Rossi 92 in 454 I just had rebarreled with a 24" octagon barrel and got rid of that 20" carbine barrel now I'm looking for a Winchester your a true craftsmen can't get enough of your videos keep em coming !

    • @thecinnabar8442
      @thecinnabar8442  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Thanks. It turned out that I had plenty of lighting but had to study up on camera settings to get things to show up better with the indoor lighting.

    • @loupuleff571
      @loupuleff571 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@thecinnabar8442 I have to get a 50-110 !

  • @user-ws2mj7wq7e
    @user-ws2mj7wq7e Před 7 měsíci

    Great video ... very enjoyable and informative

  • @453421abcdefg12345
    @453421abcdefg12345 Před 7 měsíci

    Well Mark, this was a very interesting video for me, I have an 1886 in 50-110 but I have had problems with the very short bullet that it takes, I had to make up a special bullet mould for it, I notice your one has a half octagonal barrel, mine, unfortunately has a round barrel and a full length mag, so it was probably sent to India, nice to see a sensible person shooting one of these, not all on youtube are that good! Thanks for posting this one! Chris b.

  • @fredford7642
    @fredford7642 Před 7 měsíci

    Really good and informative video. My sincere compliments!

  • @gilbertdelgado6703
    @gilbertdelgado6703 Před 7 měsíci

    That 86 is certainly a good lookin ole gal, and she certainly sounded sweet when y’all were cycling her. Nice work Mark!

  • @dianecullum1281
    @dianecullum1281 Před 7 měsíci

    (Mike Cullum) I'm glad your buddy Curtis was willing to mortgage his farm to pay you for the crazy man hours it took to get that great old 1886 up and running! Every time I see you having so much fun burning powder It makes me want to pull a rifle out and and warm it up some! Thanks again for giving us a peek inside another awesome old gun.

  • @Tom-ki3lq
    @Tom-ki3lq Před 7 měsíci +1

    Mark great video as usual. I mentioned 50-110 in a comment a year or so ago. I love mine. Hoping to get a doe with it this season. MP molds has a fantastic mold for this caliber as it has multiple pins for the same mold. FP, small HP, and what looks like a pipe bowl big HP. Thank you!

    • @thecinnabar8442
      @thecinnabar8442  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Thanks for the compliment and for the tip on the bullet mold.

  • @snappers_antique_firearms
    @snappers_antique_firearms Před 7 měsíci

    Thanks for bringing us along. Such a beautiful rifle

  • @borkwoof696
    @borkwoof696 Před 4 měsíci

    Fascinating!

  • @flintrichards945
    @flintrichards945 Před 7 měsíci

    Great video thanks for all the very interesting information.

  • @usualsuspect5173
    @usualsuspect5173 Před 7 měsíci

    Excellent video

  • @atveekrem
    @atveekrem Před 7 měsíci

    You should think about doing a video detailing disassembly and reassembly of the 1886 action. I haven’t found much, and often they’re for Miroku versions, which are a little different. If there are some already out there, please post the links. Or maybe do one with a paywall if needed. I’m always impressed with the engineering and machining skills which went into these 86’s. Thanks.

  • @klesmer
    @klesmer Před 7 měsíci +1

    Thanks Mark. I use the tape method on my C&R guns that are suspicious. I resize new unprimed brass and if the bolt closes on more than two layers of tape it goes to the gunsmith.

  • @broncota2210
    @broncota2210 Před 7 měsíci

    Hey mark, as always thanks for some excellent new content. Happy holidays

    • @thecinnabar8442
      @thecinnabar8442  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Thanks Traves! Happy Holidays to you and your family as well.

  • @joebarrett5310
    @joebarrett5310 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Love your videos as always Mark! Great job getting that old big bore '86 back to shooting 🙂

  • @andrewanderson3472
    @andrewanderson3472 Před 7 měsíci

    Beautiful rifle

  • @furmanmackey5479
    @furmanmackey5479 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I know the design of the 1876 Winchester was the "Big Brother" to the 1873 in terms of the rounds it was chambered for while also being the "Weak Sister" to the 1886 I actually prefer the looks of, if not the strength of the design, to that of the '86. Not that I would turn my nose up at and walk away from a good, shootable '86. Excellent video as usual!

  • @mikemull1478
    @mikemull1478 Před 3 měsíci

    Love your videos. I work on my own guns but getting parts is my problem. Now I need a loading gate spring for a Taurus Thunderbolt. I think one from a Colt will work but can't find one yet.love your channel

  • @davidbones8947
    @davidbones8947 Před 7 měsíci

    Great vid brother really enjoy and look forward to your vids looking forward to meet y'all in Roseburg God Bless

  • @perrypappous7617
    @perrypappous7617 Před 7 měsíci

    I envy your patience, but you certainly got that rifle shooting well!

  • @davidgoldberg
    @davidgoldberg Před 7 měsíci

    Nice work getting her back into commission!

  • @Leverguns50
    @Leverguns50 Před 7 měsíci

    Thank you

  • @practicalplinking6133
    @practicalplinking6133 Před 7 měsíci +1

    What I did with customers was tell 'em to bring it by for a free visual inspection before the purchase. If the seller was honest, it happened. People knew what they were getting before the money changed hands. This was in the motorcycle business, same principle applies.

    • @thecinnabar8442
      @thecinnabar8442  Před 7 měsíci +1

      One of the big drawbacks to the online auctions is that the buyer can't take them out for a "test drive". A lot of problematic guns change hands.

    • @practicalplinking6133
      @practicalplinking6133 Před 7 měsíci

      @@thecinnabar8442 Only recourse is bad mouthing 'em cause ya can't knee-cap 'em ?

  • @geoffreyjones2000
    @geoffreyjones2000 Před 7 měsíci

    Awesome

  • @meaders2002
    @meaders2002 Před 7 měsíci

    I haven't seen it done for rifles but in engine assembly rod and main bearing tolerances are measured with plasti-gauge, a product that is bolted into the desired location. Once removed, the thickness of the plasti-gauge is measured with a micrometer. In this case, you would be reading the head space.

    • @thecinnabar8442
      @thecinnabar8442  Před 7 měsíci

      What an interesting idea! I've used plasti-gauge when building engines. I'll have to see if I can find some in the shop and give that a try.

  • @oldiron3735
    @oldiron3735 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Great instructional video Mark! The 50-110 is a grail level lever action for me. Id love to find one but the typical prices for an 86 in that chamber are usually way beyond what I can manage.

    • @thecinnabar8442
      @thecinnabar8442  Před 7 měsíci +1

      You're right. It seems like everybody wants a 50-110. I completely understand why that is.🙂

    • @oldiron3735
      @oldiron3735 Před 7 měsíci

      @@thecinnabar8442 Ive always thought it would be neat to do a side by side comparison of the old school 50 caliber lever action rifles and the new school 50 caliber lever actions. For new rifles I have two lever actions chambered in 500 Smith and Wesson and one lever action rifle chambered in 500 Linebaugh. It would be fun to compare them to a old 76 Winchester in 50-95 and an 86 Winchester in 50-110.

    • @thecinnabar8442
      @thecinnabar8442  Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@oldiron3735 That would be interesting. Are your big bores from Big Horn Armory?

    • @oldiron3735
      @oldiron3735 Před 7 měsíci

      @@thecinnabar8442 Yes Sir, all three of them.

  • @ofreen
    @ofreen Před 7 měsíci

    What a great rifle. I've come to like the appearance of the half magazine rifles since I got my 92 in 32-20. But as you noted, you run out of ammo fast when plinking. Another entertaining video.

  • @kipkaniper4679
    @kipkaniper4679 Před 7 měsíci

    Good news on 114👍🙏💪

  • @billm2078
    @billm2078 Před 7 měsíci

    I have to assume that you love your work.

  • @steveshoemaker6347
    @steveshoemaker6347 Před 7 měsíci

    SORRY I AM A DAY LATE BUT THANKS VERY MUCH.....
    Old F-4 Shoe🇺🇸

  • @user-ku3is1on8n
    @user-ku3is1on8n Před měsícem

    You might get new blocks from Japan where they make the New 86 Winchester at.

  • @Tammy-un3ql
    @Tammy-un3ql Před 7 měsíci

    👌👌👍👍

  • @Ben_not_10
    @Ben_not_10 Před 7 měsíci

    I have a question about the locking blocks. Given their simple construction, could anything be gained in terms of strength and longevity if you made a set of brand new set of locking blocks on a mill and harden them to spec? I know it’s an involved process compared to setting the barrel back but I am curious.

    • @thecinnabar8442
      @thecinnabar8442  Před 7 měsíci

      Personally, it wouldn't be worth the time involved to make a "one-off" set of blocks. If a person wanted to make a batch of new blocks to sell, it might be worthwhile. There are reproduction locking blocks made for 1894's in +.005", .010" and .015" over sizes to take up headspace. I don't know of anybody who makes replacement locking blocks for the other Winchester models. Sounds like a good hobby for a retired machinist.

  • @WilliamCollins-sh6lm
    @WilliamCollins-sh6lm Před 7 měsíci

    What about the"Plastic Gauge" used in engine assessmbly ???
    Crush an measure width ...
    Tape is way I was taught too .

    • @thecinnabar8442
      @thecinnabar8442  Před 7 měsíci

      Interesting idea. I think I've got some plasi-gauge around here. I'll have to give that a try.

  • @GenderSkins
    @GenderSkins Před 7 měsíci

    I wonder if you could figure out what’s wrong with an old 22 long rifle, that was my grandfathers. As my dad could not fix it, neither could the gunsmith he took it too. Thing would load and fire 3 rounds before hanging up on the 4th round. Odd thing is the rifle does something I have never seen any other rifle with a magazine tube do.

    • @thecinnabar8442
      @thecinnabar8442  Před 7 měsíci

      Unfortunately, it's become difficult and expensive to ship firearms these days. It may not be worth the cost to ship a 22 to and from a gunsmith, especially since most shippers require guns to be shipped FFL to FFL. Your best bet is to look for a competent gunsmith within driving distance of you.

  • @scottydouglass1892
    @scottydouglass1892 Před 7 měsíci

    I just purchased a 71 in 348. How hard is it to convert to a 45-70 ?

    • @thecinnabar8442
      @thecinnabar8442  Před 7 měsíci

      I don't have any experience with that conversion, but I don't believe it would be terribly difficult. Besides the barrel either being bored or replaced, there may have to be some modifications to the internals to get the 45-70 to feed properly. For what it's worth, I prefer the 348 to the 45-70, especially for a hunting cartridge.

  • @33667406
    @33667406 Před 7 měsíci

    Usted es un crack, descubre cada Winchester fuera de serie! Soy orgulloso poseedor de un Winchester 94 38-55 Nro. 28 mil cero...

  • @bearbait2221
    @bearbait2221 Před 7 měsíci

    Great vid! I learned more about lever guns in this vid than any other vids. And the way you laugh after every shot makes me laugh to. I have an old Winchester lever i think its a 1896 25-20 or 20-25? it was a take down model i found it at an old abandon gold mine in Alaska. Some 1 had cut it into a mares leg and sanded it to make it shinny than left outside I can tell it was mint before that by no wear to the bluing above the trigger they missed with the sander:( I want to save it i don't know who to give it to for restoration. I took the barrel off. I dont think its even legal to have it together good thing its a take down model. The barrel is the hardest part to find i have had no luck. I just want to save it. Or at least make it legal to put on the wall. I also have never seen ammo like this up here. Older lever guns are not popularly carried up here with grizzlies running around bolt action magnums are the norm. The new stainless 45-70s are vary popular.

  • @dwanehart8150
    @dwanehart8150 Před 7 měsíci

    Love watching you and your passion. Good on ya and get an apprentice. You have too much knowledge to lose.