Framing A 12x40 Barn Addition Using Our Own Milled Lumber
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- čas přidán 13. 05. 2024
- Today we start framing the 12x40 barn addition using milled lumber from the trees that used to stand in the location of the barn!
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It's crazily beautiful how much introverts can open up once they've the right people with them😍😍💕
I have never regretted overbuilding. If nothing else, I sleep well when Nature is kicking ass.
Greg heads up! On your forms for the footers take your hammer and tap the sides top to the bottom when you pour wet concrete and will get read of honey comm in the concrete while it's still wet and levels out as well . Just a tip from an old concrete man...
Thanks. We had a drier mix so it didn’t slip out of the bottom of the wood form, just a little too dry I suppose
Hey Greg !!! You said that you were triple laminate your 2x6 so I believe you would be hard pressed to get enough snow on the roof to really worry about 👍 Just a old dude from Pender Harbour BC 😎🇨🇦☮️
Another way to eliminate honey comb is use your used motor oil to coat the inside of the form before you or the wet concrete
That's why I use a spud bar for concrete pours. Stabby stabby stabby get the corners too.
@@ThisOffGridLifeuse a saw saw (reciripicated) saw without a blade on the shuttering and it will vibrate the honeycomb out and any air pockets in the concrete.
The side that is already there has stood the test of time Greg, Personally i would just mirror it. Keep up the great videos guys, your a great team.
It must be so nice to know how much you’re both cared for! And your sweet menagerie. In these insane social times you’re such a serene place for us to escape to. Thanks for all your hard work sweet Kate for bringing these treats to us. Please keep yourselves safe with the terrible fires again ravaging that province. 🥰🥰😉👵 Ottawa
Welcome to the left handed club Katie. All the best are lefty's 😊😊😊
Also, next time you laminate a beam, sandwich some rolled steel in between the boards which strengthens the beam tremendously with little width
Greg, You might consider beefing up the beams in the section that is going to be a workshop. So that a chain fall hoist/trolly can be rigged up for maybe pulling an engine or lifting heavy items.
Poor Katie she now has to compete with a saw mill.🤣🤣🤣
It’s the one in 50 year fall of snow that’s the worry. Ask yourself, do you want to be awake at night worrying or sleep tight knowing you did a solid job? (… and yes, Australia does not get snow like Canada but we DO get snow loads in what we humorously call our alps!)
2x8’s at least. In these times of global warming the average snow loading will probably decrease but the occasional peak loading will probably INCREASE! Love you guys! 🇦🇺 🦘🌏
So…Proud of you both! You have both come a long way since the bus! The milled lumber look’s great & the barn will be built soon! I am so glad you guy’s get to work from home & we don’t have to worry about Greg being too tired from roofing to work around the homestead! Editing is superb Katie🙏🙏🙏Blessing’s
You're doing the right thing Greg as always anybody that lives in Canada or BC Canada knows that we don't get as much snow as we used to yet weather's changes here on Vancouver Island and Courtney we used to get a lot of snow I remember as a kid we always walked down town on the probably 8 foot of snow piled up in the middle of the road you don't see that anymore you may see two 3 inches here in Courtney and in 19 79 or 1980 was there last biggest snowfall I can remember my dad bought a brand new 1979 Ford and when you looked at it just like look like a couple bumps in the snow that's how much the snow was and when you that pushed snow off the roof we couldn't see out our front when you opened the door front door you couldn't see out the front door I so much snow we used to get here you don't see that anymore we used to build snow forts like crazy just from the snow that they used to plow down the road make tunnels into it you don't see any of that stuff anymore last year I think we may have got like one inches snow two inches of snow gone in a couple of days so I didn't even shovel it because I knew it would be gone❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
Hey Katie, I wondered why I was so in tune with you and your ways. I'm a left hander, for writing, but grab tools with whichever hand is convenient. Also ambidextrous. Useful trait for those of us 'wired up wrong' 😆
Almost 40. You're a youngen.😊 Our coyotes climb our 6 foot fence.
That will make an awesome addition, A lot more storage under a roof " When Greg was setting the posts i just kept saying Katie don't put your fingers under there ! Great job :)
hi Katie and Greg. Love the way you elevated the mill off the ground a bit. Milling your own lumber gives you a sense of ownership and accomplishment and PRIDE in your homestead and you two should be very very proud of all your hard work. Not to mention you haven't killed each other like most couples would lol. LORDY LORDY GREG IS ALMOST FORTY LMAO
Not just 2x6 rafters, the strapping is of a decent size too, Greg.
2” x 8”. safety first, no worries for late at night 😂😫phil 🇬🇧. P.s. great video as per usual and background music. Thank you. Oh! I’m a leftie as well. They’re the best 😂
An absolutely amazing couple in all the projects you handle. The joists look amazing and extremely sturdy. Your new addition is looking great. A Goat Hotel and your workshop.. Probably a double reinforcement on the lower part of your fence. That might have been a Big coyote! Hugs from Santa Barbara. 🤗😘🍷😎🙏👋
Put blocking between the rafters. It won't take much wood but it will substantially increase the structural strenght of the roof.
Milling is fun, I'm with ya.
It's looking good.
Thank you for releasing another video. I have something to watch when I get home today.😊
I feel exactly like you when I’m running my sawmill as well. My happy place. 😊
You guys should get the goats a couple of cow scratcher brushes.
Mornin' Greg and Katie.....great work. If I'm allowed a suggestion, when pouring into forms, my dad taught me that, once poured, use a hand-held sander at the top of the forms to vibrate and settle the concrete. Keep working together.....it's an inspiration.
My grandfather always said, use only that what you need and be sure you feel comfy by that. I think it would be fine to use 50x120mm wood or as you say 2x6Inch ;). i noticed in the old barn roof there are also had some triangle supports at every 4th or 5th beam.
Hey Greg, now that you are getting the hang of working with heavy beams try notching the beams where the gussets attach to add more strength. I have no doubt you could figure it out and once you do it's a game changer. The next step from there is to learn mortise and tenon.
Hello you guy's!
Thanks for sharing another awesome video ❤. The wildlife, goats, dogs playing with each other was very nice.
I think your building will be just fine Greg, you can always double up on 2x6 every 8ft to add to the strength.
Hi Katie and Greg, it was sure nice being able to spend some time with you today. As usual, I enjoyed very much the random scenes with the animals at the start. I love the goats. I appreciate all the time and effort it takes for you to shoot, edit and produce these vids and really appreciate it. Thank you for putting in the effort with your editing Katie. I'm with Greg and would love to spend the day milling, especially with all the beautiful surroundings to enjoy and admire. I enjoyed watching Juniper and Aspen playing in that scene, they were having so much fun; like a couple of kids playing 😄 I am also ambidextrous Katie. I am old enough that they didn't have anything like left handed scissors etc back then and there didn't seem to be many left handed people in my world at least. So I had to learn how to do everything right handed and then adapt to left. I write left handed, use tools with either hand equally well, as well as shoot, bat etc. Greg, you made the comment about almost being 40, just give it another 35 years 😉 You got quite a bit accomplished and I look forward to the next vid. Have a productive week and be safe out there. Larry, Central Valley, Ca.
Maybe some tar paper between postes and concrete to prevent rot. Looks good!!
Or small patch of roofing membrane.
Hello everyone. Why don't you put brushes on the rollers that run over the rails on the sawmill to sweep the sawdust away? Just a tip. Greetings from Germany. Andi
Great video guys,love the goats and dogs. Greg love ur yoga on the beam!lol It's going to be a nice building when yall finish. Love the saw mill action. Sometimes I wish I owned one,but its not practical where I live. Weid finding out about the coyote, but glad yall have a fence put up!
One trick for setting foundation pours better is to use a Sawzall without a blade as a vibrator tool to settle the concrete. And to answer your question, yes you did mix the concrete dry. You just need to read the bag ratio information.
CAUTION: Since the ends of the posts are the open end of the grain you really need to seal the ends up. At the very least get some silicone caulk and spread it over the ends. I have used Zip tape as well in a pinch. There is also the potential for using scorching of the ends to seal them up...Lots of options and all will be an improvement.
You should always tap the side of the form to make sure there are no bubbles and voids. You can also use a reciprocating saw (Sawsall) without a blade to vibrate it the bubbles out when you pour. Never just pack it in and leave it.
Glad to see your makeing yr own wood it saves so much money.cant wait to see the barn.kaite must have allergies get better
Use a SPAN TABLE to figure out what dimension of lumber to use when spanning a distance. It's based on several factors including what you are spanning (floor joist, ceiling joist, rafter, etc) and type of lumber (a critical factor) and other things. Use a Span Table for your area. You should be able to find one online. Just know this, the MAIN strength is in the height of the lumber, but of course the thickness and length of span are very important too.
I believe you should build you a pole barn of your mill that way in the winter it will protect your mill from the weather
Next time use the face of a sawzall to vibrate the concrete forms. It will consolidate the concrete. I did that for years before I bought a vibrator.
You’d love that sawmill so much more if you swing that deck around
According to my calculations whatever you do it'll be just fine, carry on
Sure glad you got those pallet forks.
The opening shot of the mountain side, which I like seeing at different times of the year be it snow covered or misty with rain, fog and how it is now … could you climb up it please make a great thumbnail looking across to your homestead. Many thanks for the great content 👍
2x6 are pretty substantial for roofing....especially if you are using full dimension. The old building is a good guide to what you should use.......if you get an exceptionally heavy load, you can always brace with vertical posts during those heavy load snow events.
The vibration from a palm sander on the forms will make the concrete settle when you are pouring it.
When pouring concert you should use a peace of rebar to lift up and down in the mole to fill spaces and gaps in the mole maybe this will help charlie
You can also tap around the wood ut will help with the honey com that way you can pour dryer concrete ut will make it stronger the wetness of the concrete effects the strength
I can't believe you didn't know you were ambidextrous that's the first thing I noticed watching you guy's work.I wish I was.
To deter wild animals, go to your local Barber Shop and ask them to collect cut hair in a plastic bag that you provide to them. Then put hair into small cotton bags, you could use cheese cloth, and hang along your fence line. Be sure to change hair out about every 7-10 days.
Nice progress on the new addition and I’m also left handed and I’m ambidextrous, but I can also write with my right hand now after practicing for months.
that dormer will give it that woodland cottage feel and perform a very functional purpose - good on ya
Good on ya? 🇦🇺
Greg`s sure good with the hammer! Impressive!
Katie and Greg, the footers are not a problem, make another form approximately 4/6 inches larger than you have now, get a can of bonding agent, put the bonding agent on the existing form, pour wet concrete into the new form, and let it cure while you continue to work on other parts of the build
Greg, next time use as a bush solution, your reciprocating saw and let the body slightly vibrate the formwork. That will help compacting. Other tip: do not use osb board for formwork, the concrete sticks to it. You can make it from osb, but line it with some plastic. Also a bush solution
Greg, your a beast, and Katie a beauty, when your doing laminated beams ensure you use a water proof glue and lots of it to double the strength of the beam. That is why plywood and osb has over 100 years of success, cause it makes a bond that doubles or triples the strength 😊
Man, too bad the brand new fence already has a hole. 🤬 But it’s inevitable, sooner or later you would be making repairs somewhere. Love seeing Juniper and Aspen playing! They’re having so much fun. 🐶
Y’all did an excellent job. The structure appears to be level,& strong. Every new build, is improving your skills tremendously. Your animals seem to always enjoy their environment. Hoping you’ll be able to keep out the predators. Stay safe, healthy, happy, productive,& blessed.💯👍🏾😀🫶🏾💜✝️🙏🏾🇺🇸
I might be wrong, but I believe you're planning on changing the overall layout by adding to the structure. If that is the case please consider this.
It's not just snow load as such that you need to worry about. Depending on the final shape of your roof/building you might need to worry about snow drift.
So rather than a typical angle of repose that would make the snow slide off the roof, the snow is able to pile up larger than it normally would. And therefore more weight.
Looking good!! Love how you both stay so motivated & work so hard 😎
Hi Katie & Greg & it's is Randy and i like yours video is cool & Thanks Katie & Greg & Friends Randy
Loved your choice of music! Love watching the two of you work together and seeing how much Katie can do now.
She's a strong woman
Those small pieces of wood you sawed off is good to keep for starting a fire just. Like the slabs are great for starting a fire & burning the slabs for heat.
That was the cute-est 'YES' I have ever heard!! ❤️ 😂😂😂 sweet dog.
My dad said if you have to think about it then you know it is to light. Paid the piper and do it over again later . You can attach a 5 gal bucket to the sawdust exhaust to collect it
It is so much fun watching you two working. It should be noted that Katie now holds the claw hammer by the butt end of the handle instead of half way up. How you hold and swing the hammer is as important as the weight of the hammer itself. No tappy, tap when she swings it now.
It looks like your plan, or lack of it, is coming together nicely. The goats are going to have a nice home soon. When this is done you will be able to move on to finishing the house and that will also be fun for us to watch.
Take care, be safe, have fun,
jack
You make a wonderful team ❤️ 💙 love the way you interact with the dogs while you're at work Greg you are a master with the mill chainsaw and both of you with the progress of the structure love kitty and the goats 🐐 too of course 🎉thank you for your great videos Pete cape Town south Africa 🇿🇦 looking forward to seeing more progress 💙 😊
Take note to your side bracings (kickers), each ft’ out on rafter on each side adds 1000’s of pounds of strength & shortens your span..
Things are looking so neat and tidy! Isn't it a joy to work in an organized space. Things go more smoothly with fewer hitches a d you get more done! My kitchen is my happy p!ace, so I know exactly what you mean, Greg. You and Katie bring this ole gal much joy😘
My favorite channel to watch. You always give me something interesting. This Montrealer thinks you guys make the best couple/TEAM !! Love you guys.....thanks :)
You have very happy pets,
Miley's watching with us and she's like "i want to play 'catch me if you can' with juniper and aspen!" 😅
I've been following from the start and enjoy watching your build. Lots of comments about the span but I can't see anyone commenting about what's holding the building down. My concern is that with bit of wind uplift the entire barn could come of it's footings. Also agree with all the comments about putting a damp proof membrane under the posts to protect them from damp. Not too late to do it. Just jack them up and slide the material under.
Thank you for some good experiences with you in your lovely nature. I just want to give you some good advice in connection with your expansion project. Don't forget to put a moisture barrier between the concrete and the posts. If not, the wood will begin to rot within a few years. Have fun with the construction.
Stig.🇩🇰
Regarding the dimensional lumber size for the beams and rafters, good enough is perfect! If the older half has stood the test of time and weather, that is good enough. Thank you for sharing your experiences.
It’s so relaxing for us to watch Greg mill as well! I can’t wait to see you guys start building the goat barn! 😊❤
So, fun watching you guys build and have so much fun doing it
Don’t forget that he may have used all “Old Growth” wood from old trees!!
I noticed the existing sawmill shed has diagonals supporting the trusses in places. Maybe that gave the extra support allowing him to use the 2 x 6 lumber.
thanks for the midi week video / very much appreciated !!!
The existing 6” is supported by the diagonal brace forming a type of truss, hence the unsupported span is short. That’s why he doesn’t have any deflection.
Just duplicate what he did, including the bracing, and you will get the same result.
I saw that BC is experiencing some wildfires. Hope you folks are doing well. Somewhat of a relief that you posted!
Awesome build.looks like it's time to electrify the fence.
Hope you are safe from fires. Glad you’re getting rain. I think your barn will be lovely.
If your are happy to reproduce what has been there for many years that should be fine. Don’t shrimp on the fixings, nuts and bolt and screws as the braces you use carry the loads from the roof into the posts then into the ground. So one poorly fixed brace or joints can cause not only snow overload but wind gust overloads. Good luck and don’t worry if you over engineer the braces!
I love watching you two building a off grid life think it's so awesome. The land scape there looks jus like where I live I'm in northeast GA in Appalachian mountains there was one shot of a mtn with rock all down side reminded me so much of one mtn here funny how so many miles apart but it looks kinda th same and people live in same manner. Yall two keep on keeping on think yall rock God bless much love ✌
It is going to be so nice to have some shop space.
A God send
You can use a sawzall as a vibrator if you put the shoe up against the concrete form without a blade in it and pull the trigger.
Also, if the mix was a little wetter it would settle better.
Symmetrical...copy what is there already ..it will look amazing
Greg, you need to put an electric fence . This would keep coyotes out and protect your animals!
5:01 I look at the darndest things when I watch CZcams videos and all I can think about is his left boot is going to fill up with sawdust, and how nice must be to finally have forks. I know you've had them for a little bit, but I watched the struggle for the first few years when you guys were stacking lumber on the bucket.
Hi guys! As far as the fence, do you have any wolves there, could be that. It's funny that Katie brought up the swinging with both hands thing. I noticed her switch hitting with the hammer in several videos and when I seen her doing it again today she popped up in the video talking about it. Lol. Barn/shop is looking good!
Its so nice to be able to take a log from your land and cut into lumber then build something. Another project you 2 should be proud of.
Go 2x8 - it’s the span that you are building structure for. It’s like painting, you only want to do it about every five years. That calls for top quality paint.
For the roof, you don’t want a structure failure. And for the cost to you is peanuts between 2x6 and 2x8. If. You ever have a structure failure, it’s not just the building, but what’s underneath the structure that gets demolished. The other consideration is using the primary structure for add-ons.
It’s a toss of the dice, but if it as me, it would be a no-brainer (2x8).
Good luck either way then Greg and Katie. 😊
I would suggest some carriage bolts for your laminated beam, just a precaution and you can install them anytime.
Wood post in direct contact with concrete WILL rot! You can still jack the post up enough to slide a piece of asphalt shingle under the contact point. A asphalt shingle is thicker and more durable than tar paper. Put the grit side on the concrete and the tar side to the post. Using an asphalt shingle tab, cut a slit to the center and make a 1/2 inch hole to clear your rebar, then wiggle it in under your post.
I get your love for milling. My son is happiest at his mill.
clearly a sasquatch!
Katie, I’m also ambidextrous, if I have trouble doing something with one hand, I just switch to the other, no problem. It drives my family nuts 😂 I really do enjoying the animals, the home build, thank you for allowing us all to watch and cheer you on!
Katie- you are a true gem. How about some Leftie power to all of us left handed writers, who can do so much with our right hands also! We are the ones in our right minds 😅
Also a Purlin brace cuts the span in half! See diagrams in the rafter-span-table link.
So glad to hear from you. I saw on American news that British Columbia was on fire. Not worried about smoke but was concerned about the massive evacuation going on up there. Looks like your doing fine!!!
Nothing near us
Greg you mill the best lumber right on the spot . Screw the home center
Greg is a true wood poet!! Looking good.