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  • @chrisdelmoro
    @chrisdelmoro Před rokem +192

    As soon as he said that the vendor was based on Florida, my mind went to: "Were they smuggling stuff to Brazil?"
    It's a common wisdom that it's cheaper to buy flights to the US and back, a few days of a hotel just to bit electronics, than to buy them legally here.
    Literally all my videogames and PC parts were bought in Paraguay and smuggled in, with the solo exception of my current pc where the most expensive part I bought in Orlando back in 2015 on a trip to Disney.

    • @Adroit1911
      @Adroit1911 Před rokem +3

      Tiger direct is based out of California. Linus has his memory a little mistaken. It's been based in Cali since 1987. And is still in operation today.

    • @DonnyStanley
      @DonnyStanley Před rokem +7

      @@Adroit1911 it's headquarters location was Miami, Florida in 2015 and before.

  • @Marcos.ribeiro94
    @Marcos.ribeiro94 Před rokem +463

    As a Brazilian I can say that what linus told about iPhone is true, for example, the SE that was 400 bucks in the US, but here it was almost 4000 bucks (and the minimum wages in both countries are almost the same, in absolute number, around 1200) and an iPhone 14 can cost you more than 10k.

    • @ponzi66
      @ponzi66 Před rokem +83

      I think you're missing the part where 10k of your currency is not worth the same as 10k USD lol. As far as I can tell, the iPhone 14 cost around 15499 BRL, which is almost $3000; not $10k. It's a lot but if you're throwing out 10k, it's a bit of an over exaggeration.

    • @ThisUpdateSucksTyYT
      @ThisUpdateSucksTyYT Před rokem +70

      @@ponzi66 Seems like he meant if you would assume both minimum wages are the same. Which it clearly isn’t, it’s 5-6x lower in Brazil compared to US.

    • @Destru3k
      @Destru3k Před rokem +5

      dont know dude before I bought my Iphone 11, I got a SE for 2400 BRL

    • @Marcos.ribeiro94
      @Marcos.ribeiro94 Před rokem +35

      @@ponzi66 thats why i compared with the minimum wage, this way I'm showing that it's not like Japan, for example, that they have things costing thousands of yens, but their minimum wage would be around 100x larger than the US. It's true that 1 dollar is 5.5x more valuable than 1 real, but our average wage isn't 5.5x larger than the US.

    • @ryanespinoza7297
      @ryanespinoza7297 Před rokem +11

      Ah yes, muamba. I traveled to brazil and learned my iphone 6s (late 2016) would cover most of my expenses while there. Now when I travel there I bring a new iphone and laptop. that's most of my 3 month trip covered.

  • @LucienneGainsborough
    @LucienneGainsborough Před rokem +227

    For each CPU they smuggled, they get about 100 Chinese yuan worth of profit (from evading import tax) which is roughly 15$. And it's pretty common in China to sell tray CPU on Taobao. I doubt it's caused by the export restrictions, because consumer chips are selling just fine through official channels.

    • @ThePokemaniac77
      @ThePokemaniac77 Před rokem +6

      Yeah, here in my country PH, tray cpu from low end am4 to ryzen 9 are super commonly sold in Facebook marketplace and local online stores

    • @peergoggles9644
      @peergoggles9644 Před rokem +4

      yeah there is no shortage of cpu's in china , but people smuggle in all kinds of stuff for a little bit of profit. when the hk boarder was fully open it was crazy.

    • @yuxuanhuang3523
      @yuxuanhuang3523 Před rokem +6

      Can confirm there is no shortage of CPU in China,. My friend just bought a new rig a few weeks ago. And confirmed, the price from official channels are slightly higher. i7-13700K is 3,399 CNY, roughly 486 USD and amazon shows 429 USD. So yes there are some taxes, but that is normal for electronics (17% import tax according to Baidu) The i9-13900K is really overpriced compared to MSRP, but almost nobody is buying those.
      My guess is these smuggled ones were probably leaked from some OEM. That's why they are so cheap and have no commercial packaging and warranty. Some sell the i7 at a insane 2,300 CNY (329$) on TaoBao, which is much cheaper that even MSRP (449$).

    • @larion2336
      @larion2336 Před rokem

      That feels like it doesn't add up. Who has 100k to spend on cpu and iphones, only to earn $15 profit on each? That's like 3% possible profit versus risking losing all of that, makes no sense at all.

    • @yuxuanhuang3523
      @yuxuanhuang3523 Před rokem

      @@larion2336 The "mules" risk going to prison, they don't pay for the things they carry. It's the smugglers behind this, that have way more profit than 15$. It could be around 100$ each.
      But still, why would they need to smuggle CPUs in this way? Last time I seen someone smuggle stuff with their body, it's drugs, which is 100% death crime here.

  • @aldozampatti
    @aldozampatti Před rokem +49

    Brazil is bad and as Linus described it at least. But Argentina is worse.
    As Argentinian I can 100% believe what was described in this video.
    It's safe to assume that Brazil prices are 100% more than US. And Argentina ~120%.
    Mind you income is lower in Argentina so its exponentially more expensive to 'hold an iPhone' in the street.

    • @Lucas-hr1mj
      @Lucas-hr1mj Před rokem

      Seems we're all fucked, fellow south american. We Brazilians, Argentinians, Chileans and whatever else are all brothers in this shitshow.

    • @LetrixAR
      @LetrixAR Před rokem +3

      I just noticed that the Nintendo Switch when 2x up in price in the last month. It cost more than a RTX 3080 does for the base model.

    • @Nadia1989
      @Nadia1989 Před rokem +1

      For real. You can buy three or four locally assembled mid range phones for the cost of an iPhone in Argentina. That's why QR code payments are king here instead of Apple or Google Pay, NFC enabled phones are few and way too expensive

    • @Gamer-nc8qp
      @Gamer-nc8qp Před rokem

      Same with turkey lol

    • @namAehT
      @namAehT Před rokem

      I've heard the same from other Argentinians. They all come here on "vacation" every few years to update their electronics.

  • @fuj1n
    @fuj1n Před rokem +11

    Man, as an Australian, it was so weird hearing Linus talk about Mwave as a bygone era. They are like the biggest PC part seller in Sydney.

  • @amentia
    @amentia Před rokem +113

    Here in Brazil, as a "physical person" you can expect to pay 60% on import taxes (federal tax) + another 30~70% tax ON TOP of the 60% ones in some states (in my state it is actually the higher on the country 🤡). That's IF you have no problem as when the seller tries to declare a smaller price of sale... that way you can get a +100% fine ON TOP os the taxes and your product cannot be returned :')
    Theres a lot more to it, but thats the basics .-.

    • @27snakeeyes
      @27snakeeyes Před rokem +4

      Tamo bem d+

    • @larsondavis8155
      @larsondavis8155 Před rokem +3

      Well, I couldn't understand what you were trying to say. And I'm sure I'm not alone.

    • @leonardobozzetto3017
      @leonardobozzetto3017 Před rokem +3

      @@larsondavis8155 It wasn't very clear from his explanation, but I think he was trying to say that the import taxes are not alone, you have many consumption taxes that are applied to it as well as the handling of the product inside of the country, which ends up being at the very least 1.5x the original price paid only on taxes. He also said that if the vendor puts a price tag that doesn't match what the customs *thinks* the product costs they will apply a fine of +100% on the already taxed product. It is a complete shithole to buy anything from another country, no one really understands why, I'm betting that it is the agricultural companies and low-end manufacturers that want the country to stay undeveloped and with plenty of cheap and uneducated labor

    • @williamramos9724
      @williamramos9724 Před rokem +1

      @@larsondavis8155 Basically 2x more expensive than buying on the US.

    • @pocketanime
      @pocketanime Před rokem +3

      Come to Chile we have flat 19%

  • @yensteel
    @yensteel Před rokem +46

    Taobao has them available. Often times, you can buy unoriginal packaging versions for cheaper than completely new boxed. Now I know why… It’s also frustrating for RMA.

  • @FractalParadox
    @FractalParadox Před rokem +31

    As a Brazilian, I was eagerly awaiting the end of the gpu shortage and the launch of the 40 series so the market would flood with 30 series cards, so I could finally afford a 10 series card. Hint: the price of a 1070ti USED was still 20% the price of a 30 series card new. I paid almost 2k reais for my 1070ti, and 2080s are still at the 5-8k price range.
    One of the side effects of the unbelievable taxation is that the value of the card drops, but the price doesn't. Last I checked a 3090 was about 20k here, and almost half of it is taxes.
    Edit: I went and looked, and a minimum of 60% is taxes, plus up to 40% state tax. Fml.

    • @rafaelbodart
      @rafaelbodart Před rokem +1

      irmão que valores são esses ai???? tu é de inteiorzão?
      Eu comprei faz umas 2 semanas uma 3060 Ti usada com 2 anos de garantia ainda por 2.2k em 10x sem juros

    • @FractalParadox
      @FractalParadox Před rokem +1

      Interior, sim. Os preços subiram um monte e caíram uma montanha desde que comprei a placa

    • @josedorsaith5261
      @josedorsaith5261 Před rokem +2

      It really is theft at that point

    • @VertietRyper
      @VertietRyper Před rokem +1

      They're robbing y'all in broad daylight wtf

    • @FractalParadox
      @FractalParadox Před rokem

      @@VertietRyper we know. Guess who can't do anything about that

  • @ricardo_colombo
    @ricardo_colombo Před rokem +16

    About why the import tariffs are so incredibly high, that's is because of our "incentive to domestic market development" as they'd call back in the military dictatorship. So basically in house brands were importing parts from other countries or just copying their tech so they could sell it at a very low price compared to the real thing (instead of developing the country's industry) this is why we had copies of the NES that were made up untill the PS2 era, because the cost of a N64 or a PS1 or even a super Nintendo was waaaaaaaay higher than the NES clones that we manufactured here. Then we have the smuggling coming from Paraguay and the containers of low end CPUs that Linus talked about. Smuggling goods is kinda normal to avoid the unfair taxes.

  • @Link4750
    @Link4750 Před rokem +41

    Currently in China, I've noticed that MOST electronics/components I've looked at are almost the exact same price I would expect to pay in the US, including the second-hand market. I built my own mini-ITX 16TB NAS recently for about 3,500 RMB (Around $500).
    The average cost of living is much cheaper though, so I don't feel the hit to my bank account as hard as in the US.

    • @Dave102693
      @Dave102693 Před rokem

      The US indirectly banned China from having high-end chipsets.

    • @Link4750
      @Link4750 Před rokem +2

      @@Dave102693 Is that so? Which chipsets? I still see the high-end consumer-grade CPUs/chipset motherboards on apps like JD and TaoBao.
      I specifically picked older hardware for my NAS though, so I could be missing something.

    • @wenzheliu4993
      @wenzheliu4993 Před rokem +10

      @@Dave102693 Those got banned are high-end server chips involving AI-tech, while customer-grade chips are allowed to be exported to China. The point of those banning is to stop the development of AI tech etc. in China, not the computer market which also benefits the US a lot.

  • @EnaBBQ
    @EnaBBQ Před rokem +12

    Apple does some iPhone assembly in Brazil, usually lower end models like the iPhone SE, that one says in the back “Indústria Brasileira” (Brazilian industry) and those have s lot of tax relieves and sell for more competitive prices, otherwise yes, the iPhones are ridiculously expensive even compared 1:1 to USD price, you basically buy 2 and a half iPhones in the Brazilian currency

  • @Nadia1989
    @Nadia1989 Před rokem +4

    This year customs in Argentina detected a shipment of empty GPU boxes. I can't remember if the cards themselves had already arrived and waiting for the boxes, or it was part of a counterfeit or scam operation.

  • @Induratize2
    @Induratize2 Před rokem +5

    I know brazilians who had friends take trips to the US to buy entire PC setups and take them back with them since it was cheaper.

  • @TechJedi29
    @TechJedi29 Před rokem +8

    ALLEGEDLY ! I Take a shot every time Linus says ALLEGEDLY

    • @zaneandre6387
      @zaneandre6387 Před rokem +1

      Simon Whistler has trademark on the phrase "allegedly." Allegedly

  • @WillYouVid
    @WillYouVid Před rokem +8

    It's really good hear your more spontaneous conversations, you guys are clearly informed and cultivated people that take interest and action in your private lives, so I feel better for following your more "pop" content

  • @ulysisxtr
    @ulysisxtr Před rokem +4

    Over a decade ago the idea about the brazilian import tariffs was to create incentives for the local industry. There were projects (big ones) for local semiconductor fabs (unfortunately not on a competitive nano electronics scale) so in a way it made sense back then. But politics and politicians are not experts. They didn't consider the exponential growth of the electronics industry. Brazil has many electronics assembly lines and so on (like for samsung, had nokia, and many others over the years) but no commercially competitive semiconductor manufacturing. It may be near impossible to revert the law because the global electronics industry is so lucrative and Brazil is a huge consumer so no one wants to cut the shitload of money that goes around because of that law.

  • @sharpsdark1271
    @sharpsdark1271 Před rokem +2

    This puts a new meaning on "My phone is my baby"

  • @m3nguele
    @m3nguele Před rokem +2

    Not only Brazil's taxes are an absurd amount, they are complex af

  • @deminybs
    @deminybs Před rokem +32

    I built my first PC from parts I got from tigerdirect 😂😂

  • @Gero141
    @Gero141 Před rokem +3

    Same here in our country. Electronics have gone so expensive that considering to buy a phone or even some computer part requires a lot of thinking to see if it's worth spending more than double of MSRP or not.

  • @matthewmspace
    @matthewmspace Před rokem +2

    I remember hearing years ago that it was legit cheaper to fly from Brazil to Miami, buy an iPhone, and then fly back than it was to buy an iPhone in Brazil. Their import taxes are ridiculous.

  • @AnaBerg99
    @AnaBerg99 Před rokem +2

    As a Brazilian I have more information about the taxes, it started during the dictatorship (1964-1985) the resoning behind it was to protect the national industry, to make sure that the prices of national goods was always lower than the imported ones, but the problem is Brasil doesn't have an tech industry, any fab that we have here is just a really mid assembler of big companies in the free economic zone of Manaus (Samsung, Microsft, LG, Panasonic...). So it's basicly a shit show, the only affordable goods are the bad quality, last year, shity ones that are assemble in Manaus and the actually quality stuff are 5x to 10x the minimun wage. For prespective, I'm a software developer and I make around 10x the minimun wage, I had to save money all year to be able to afford my 3060 ti.
    And a last comment, about the iPhone thing that Linus said, it's almost 100% true, you'll see a few people that can afford to pay rent but has an iPhone but because they are paying it in 72 mounths and double the price. But this is an "issue" in relation to the credit system in Brasil.
    To finish up.... COME TO BRASIL LINUS!

  • @wendy8352
    @wendy8352 Před rokem +2

    I live in China and cpus and gpus are ultra expensive here right now. A 4090 is 22000 yuan which is around 3000 usd

  • @noahdimarco818
    @noahdimarco818 Před rokem

    this has gotta be one of the craziest thumbnails I've ever seen

  • @duckpotat9818
    @duckpotat9818 Před rokem +4

    Tariffs, incentives and stuff have made a real difference in India.
    A lot more low to mid tier stuff is now made here that would've been made in China 5-10-15 years ago.

    • @sourcethunderlight2723
      @sourcethunderlight2723 Před rokem

      India seems like they're doing quite well with local manufacturing laws.
      Manufacturers want countries with low living costs to justify paying people less to make the products cheaper, China used to be that but now the population is getting quite rich and want more money to live so manufacturers had to find somewhere else, India is the perfect replacement for now. Other manufacturers like Samsung went to Vietnam.
      Brazil applied this import tax way too early, they couldn't even build a sizable market for these electronics for manufacturers to consider Brazilian customers to worth building factories for.

    • @jantschierschky3461
      @jantschierschky3461 Před rokem

      Actually India was hanging behind by decades, only once China became a liability and India open up it started.

  • @JacintoVG
    @JacintoVG Před rokem +1

    To add to the Brazil tech tariff thing, back in the day SEGA licensed their products to a local company(TecToy) to produce master system and later genesis stuff that could be sold for a reasonable price.
    Feels to me more like a trick to dominate the market there than a win to Brazilian based manufacture, since no one else competed and it didn’t bring any more companies, though I guess it still technically a singular win.

  • @Adroit1911
    @Adroit1911 Před rokem

    Lol tiger direct was my jam! And FYI, the HQ has been in California since 1987...

  • @EmuEmuchu
    @EmuEmuchu Před rokem +2

    Brazil memes will raise after this

  • @MagMan4x4
    @MagMan4x4 Před rokem

    man I remember tigerdirect, it was my go to! Built my Athlon XP system in an Antec dragon off that.

  • @Dorumin
    @Dorumin Před rokem +3

    What has more processing power? A baby, or 202 alder lake CPUs?

  • @felippesponton
    @felippesponton Před rokem

    (Brazillian here)
    Our import taxes comes from back in the 60s/70s to 'protect' national industry against the smashing competitiveness of foreign companies, mainly on cars. In PC area, we got Positivo and Multilaser which are national companies which benefit for having competitive prices against the likes of HP and Lenovo, but PC components and gaming consoles have NO national competition, and its still taxed in around 70% over the US$ rate. (which in Brazil rn its like R$ 5,50 per $1) Intel 12700k which is $350 sells for R$ 2.600,00, which is around 500$, but Brazil's minimum wage is R$ 1100,00 / $207. We need 2.5 months of salary to buy this cpu.

  • @lars5306
    @lars5306 Před rokem

    2:15 "madam, your baby is metal af"

  • @MindstabThrull
    @MindstabThrull Před rokem

    Apparently TCG's (trading card games, aka CCG's for collectible) such as Magic: the Gathering, Pokémon, Yu-Gi-Oh!, and the like also get hit really hard in Brazil. Events that are supposed to run before a set is released in order to drum up excitement for the new product often don't get product in time and people are caught trying to smuggle cards into the country just to meet a small percentage of the demand for it.

  • @esdrassouza3291
    @esdrassouza3291 Před rokem +9

    Brazill - you pay 60% of tax on top of the imported product. Plus, the company that is importing the product needs to have their profit. Another point, good luck on receiving the product. Because sometimes, the only postal service we have in Brazil "Correios" will update the product delivery status to "product lost". With the statement "the only postal service" I mean. Overseas companies not always use UPS, FEDEX or others, leaving brazilians with no other option. IF UPS or FEDEX is available, brazilians will for sure use those comapanies and not correios. Whith that said, many companies avoid sending goods to Brazil or they will add a desclaimer saying their ensurance will not cover products sent to Brazil. So, it is really hard to get, when we get we still relying on the luck to not get lost by the correios, and if it really makes to your hands, count extra 60% of tax if you are importing the product youserlf. If none of the above, it is what Linux said: That brazilian person if a F rich person.

  • @batt3ryac1d
    @batt3ryac1d Před rokem

    Man it's pretty much like that here in dubai for computer parts there is almost no official sellers for like 90% of hardware so it's all resellers flipping parts they bought on amazon us and forwarded here which means prices are crazy and were even higher during shortages.

  • @DiNelsonX
    @DiNelsonX Před rokem +1

    yea on Brazil this is high, because they want money to laundry, sadly that is the reality here.

  • @idiotinfrontofadesk1583
    @idiotinfrontofadesk1583 Před rokem +1

    They're called LMG but I'm not seeing any belt-fed machine guns smh my head

  • @krazycharlie
    @krazycharlie Před rokem

    Colombia: Maria Full of Grace.
    China: Ma Li-Ah Full of CPUs.

  • @NinjaArmy36
    @NinjaArmy36 Před rokem +1

    Linus smuggling tips

  • @Amphibax
    @Amphibax Před rokem

    With buying stuff when traveling in some cases different items just aren't available were you live and for many people is just a good way to spent time

  • @happydawg2663
    @happydawg2663 Před rokem

    lmao, "big stroonz" may be italian, stroonz is an Italian dialect form that is the equivalent to calling someone an asshole, i lolled hard with linus saying: thanks, big stroonz, big stroonz

  • @zirkzirk1512
    @zirkzirk1512 Před rokem

    Brazil has ridiculous *import charges* (tariffs and otherwise) that make it impossible to justify doing business there in many industries.

  • @otharavarkan
    @otharavarkan Před rokem

    So in Turkey, because of tariffs, 1000 Dollar electronic in US costs about 2500 Dollars. Plus when you calculate the exchange rates that 1000 dollar item in the US costs 9~ times more than the minimum wage in Turkey..

  • @brianm.595
    @brianm.595 Před rokem

    That lady is most certainly not the perpetrator of the crime, she's just the mule.

  • @igotnothingbetter
    @igotnothingbetter Před rokem

    "...wild import tariffs"
    ...Why?
    "and it's so frustrating because you go "Why?"
    Nailed it down to the inflection Linus

  • @mh-qb4di
    @mh-qb4di Před rokem

    Macao is a free port with zero tariff, so there's profit to be made here. Also, this most likely happened at one of the land borders between mainland and Macao where people do not go through metal detectors. There are random baggage check at the customs though. Maybe the smuggler didn't expect her "baby" to be checked.

  • @aravindarao9523
    @aravindarao9523 Před rokem

    2:04 no no

  • @Frappe3621
    @Frappe3621 Před rokem +10

    Who’s that guy on the left? He looks short.

  • @RevinSOR13
    @RevinSOR13 Před rokem

    Man, I haven't heard Tiger Directs name in a loooooong time.

  • @EnricoDias
    @EnricoDias Před rokem

    The reason for the high import taxes in Brazil is to force industries to manufature products inside the country. It's an old and extremely dumb idea that results in expensive goods, less taxes colected due to smuggling and slow down development dramatically.
    The federal tax is 70% and the state tax is usually 30%, also on top of the previous 70%. Both taxes are on top of the shipping cost as well. To payx there is a 7.38% tax to convert currency using a credit card and the spear of most banks are close to 5%. There is also a flat fee for the post office to handle international parcels and the package usually takes months to clear customs. The final cost is usualu 2.5 to 3x the original price of the product.
    It's so bad that it's actually cheaper to book a plane ticket to florida, buy a high end phone or laptop and fly back in the same day.

  • @user-is5it3be2q
    @user-is5it3be2q Před rokem +2

    That's what I say Intel inside gone extreme 🤣🤣

  • @rockdem0n
    @rockdem0n Před rokem +2

    Valkyrie my current PC was built using parts from a Tiger Direct "outlet store" back just before they closed their retail outlets outside of Florida. In fact I used to get most of my parts from them, thankfully I now have a MicroCenter semi close by but not close enough for a casual visit.

  • @owenquinlan6047
    @owenquinlan6047 Před rokem

    we have an mwave that is still very popular here in Australia, I wounder if they are the same

  • @Psanyi42
    @Psanyi42 Před rokem

    I don't understand the import tax for Brazil if that is that high. Or do they not have to pay import tax when they want to import something for the iPhone which they want to manufacture?

  • @kunishbeebakly8868
    @kunishbeebakly8868 Před rokem

    Damn. That's a new level of building a pc

  • @mmckn1885
    @mmckn1885 Před rokem

    It's not just Brazil in South America.

  • @CharlesVanNoland
    @CharlesVanNoland Před rokem

    TigerDirect, wow, what a throwback.

  • @BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
    @BonJoviBeatlesLedZep Před rokem

    Import tariffs on electronics are WICKEDLY cheap in my country, Trinidad and Tobago. Computers, PC parts and phones, that is... Try and import a console and you'll be paying with half your salary if you're lucky.

  • @liuhc
    @liuhc Před rokem

    Sillicon belly is a good one

  • @DarthissGameplays
    @DarthissGameplays Před rokem

    When news like this comes out, where someone tries to sneak something trough an airport in a really stupid way, I always think that maybe… they are a cover for someone else who is smuggling other stuff in a more secret way? Just a facade to keep the police distracted? Idk 🤷‍♂️

  • @000TheMatheus000
    @000TheMatheus000 Před rokem

    here in brazil is hard man... people buy this smuggled stuff all the time... counterfits and stuf... they have special places here that sells this.. called "camelos", often the buyt stuff in paraguay or uruguay to resell here cheaper... is very sad... and the "improve local industry" excuse is bullshit.. its all corruption that goes directly to the politicians pockets

  • @arturpaivads
    @arturpaivads Před rokem

    Thank you Linus. As a Brazilian that is totally true. Electronics here are absurdly expensive.
    A Noctua fan, a simple fucking fan costs 250 bucks... You guys can buy a full computer for the price of a fucking fan...
    An iPhone costs 10.000 basically... You take your prices and multiply by 10. Its what we pay.
    There's actually a community of buyers of CPUs and memory from aliexpress because they are the normal price but the government cannot handle the influx of international commerce. So small items tend to go without being taxed because the taxes are based on sample and they tend to sample bigger packages.
    And you're right, lowering import taxes (no just those, our taxes in general are astronomical) would yield a bigger income because it would be more affordable but our government is too short sight to see that...

  • @nmindz
    @nmindz Před rokem

    Well this whole talk about Brazil import tariffs and the state of affairs for imported goods... I just wish I could have somehow participated, Linus got most of the facts right, just wished to provide some Brazilian first-hand insights. lol

  • @jukkapekkaylitalo
    @jukkapekkaylitalo Před rokem

    It is like this In Eu we have ALV zones. Here in Finland Electronics have 24%ALV. But some EU contries only have it like 8% so y have savings of 16% Oof total price when y get your electronics from the contry that has less taxation of electronics. something like that those Other countries ALV rates not so sure, but Finland have 24%

    • @jukkapekkaylitalo
      @jukkapekkaylitalo Před rokem

      Y and do y know why it is not helping in coutry manufacturing. It is because, systems needed for manufacturing also have taxes and are also expensive. Y i could make CPU' HERE IN FINLAND, but can i afford the infrastucture. That it needs.

  • @Ennylack
    @Ennylack Před rokem

    Semi well known fun fact the Sega Genesis is still produced in Brazil due to import tariffs.

  • @Galaxy-Creator
    @Galaxy-Creator Před rokem +4

    I know this probably not 100% relevant but mwave still exists in australia dunno about other countries

  • @hallcrash
    @hallcrash Před rokem

    Taxes.

  • @gacsena
    @gacsena Před rokem

    Thanks to this now I know why the 13 mini costs more than the regular iPhone 13 in Brazil, I really wanted the mini but couldn’t justify it lol

  • @williamcll
    @williamcll Před rokem +1

    All the smartness put into the wrong places

  • @Sandeepan
    @Sandeepan Před rokem

    6:52
    It's true in India for the most part. Latest gen iPhone can costs ~4 times the salary of an average middle class Indian.
    That makes iPhone a luxury good to flex wealth

  • @artemisdarkslayer
    @artemisdarkslayer Před rokem +1

    Jesus, just looked up what an Iphone 14 cost in Brazil. Its nearly 3 grand.

  • @Mark-vr7pt
    @Mark-vr7pt Před rokem

    Steam Deck currently costs 1600usd where I live, so yeah

  • @MayumiTheKimura
    @MayumiTheKimura Před rokem

    7:08 no, we don't 👍

  • @babelfishdude
    @babelfishdude Před rokem

    Someone needs to start smuggling US cheese into Canada, again.

  • @mellowc
    @mellowc Před rokem

    Tigerdirect is still around

  • @nickp3177
    @nickp3177 Před 11 měsíci

    I mean, I think the Gucci thing is being in a big city. If they are from rural somewhere, yeah, they literally do not have Gucci where they live.

  • @MrBOOM546
    @MrBOOM546 Před rokem

    As a Canadian who lives in BC its honestly impressive how neutral Linus has managed to be on politics in his videos, genuinely good job Linus

  • @depth386
    @depth386 Před rokem

    Linus you’re in Canada… wtf is with Canadian GPU prices? It’s as if USDCAD exchange rate was 1.5 to 2.0 not 1.35

  • @instachocolate
    @instachocolate Před rokem

    I'm chinese and I'm genuinely confused... Consumer electronics pricing here is basically on par with that in the US, even lower in some categories, no point whatsoever to smuggle it in

  • @GustavoSena14
    @GustavoSena14 Před rokem

    Am from Brazil, can confirm. The base iPhone 14 Plus costs $1600 US dollars on Apple's site, approximately 7 whole minimum wages 💀

  • @Kisai_Yuki
    @Kisai_Yuki Před rokem

    Apple has always produced phones in Brazil for the Brazil market, but they're not the only ones. Like you can still get NEW Sega Megadrive (genesis) consoles there, because at some point SEGA had to do the same thing. Brazil's import taxes are 60%. They only reduced it THIS year. These taxes have been around since at least 1995. China on the other hand, well... Depends if you're talking about Taipei or Beijing. Tax rates of over 50% are generally considered "anti-dumping" taxes, and are usually levied on products that are being imported that are subsidized by the foreign country. eg, like the Softwood Lumber disputes in Canada vs United States. You have to realize sometimes that a high import tax is to protect an industry that already exists. Brazil does not have a domestic manufacturer of many electronics devices because it's just not economical to produce anything in South America, let alone North or South America when the entire manufacturing pipeline is in east asia.
    But none of these really apply to the smuggling aspect of the news story. It simply is someone got greedy and tried to bring in products without paying the import taxes. Most stories involving smuggling are not about bringing in illegal products, but rather products that no domestic taxes were paid on. That's how most countries without a free-trade agreement work.
    We are spoiled in Canada and the US, and also in the EEA, where a lot of trade barriers have been removed that have also removed a lot of waste from operating inefficient legacy industries that refuse to modernize.

  • @th0master
    @th0master Před rokem +3

    2:10 No, at some airports they do not, metal detectors are know to have no risk, but back scanner units do have a (really) small amount of exposure to potentially harmful radiation. So in some airports/countries if they suspect a women/person to be pregnant, they’ll tell them to step aside and they will check them by hand. Or let them go trough a metal detector, which they also use for children/under 18/16.

  • @SchioAlves
    @SchioAlves Před rokem

    The tech tip is: if you’re gonna smug something through a fake belly, make sure to hire someone that has already been pregnant 😂

  • @cyndinn
    @cyndinn Před rokem

    Same shit in India, crazy import duty, to encourage manufacturing here. But that's never gonna happen

  • @cadekachelmeier7251
    @cadekachelmeier7251 Před rokem

    Just smuggle Red Eye like a normal person.

  • @ggwp638BC
    @ggwp638BC Před rokem

    To give people some idea: in the US, the iPhone 14 Pro costs 999USD. I'm not versed in US laws but I assume that's before taxes, still, it's an expensive product, but it's within a "gadget" category.
    If you convert that price to BRL, today, no taxes, it would be around 5200BRL. It's pretty expensive for a brazilian, don't get me wrong, about 5 months of work at minimum wage fully saved. But still, it's within the price for a high end gadget.
    So, how much an iPhone 14 Pro actually costs in Brazil? 10 000BRL. Around 2000USD, more than twice msrp. At that price range you can buy a used car or an actual brand new motorcycle. It's your average worker's yearly income into a single phone.
    And yes, absolutely, people buy tons of it, even those who shouldn't.

  • @douglastaylor43
    @douglastaylor43 Před rokem

    Why try to sneak them in? Just hide them in plain sight in a fake electonic

  • @John.S92
    @John.S92 Před rokem

    The idea is to "promote domestic manufacturing", basically, "let the market sort it out", governments doesn't care, and I refer to it from my perspective locally in Europe, as these sorts of tarriffs and extra taxations are basically "add taxes and don't care if it has any actual effect or not"

    • @krazycharlie
      @krazycharlie Před rokem

      You mean: "the government doesn't care as long as it receives its cut in cold, hard cash".

    • @John.S92
      @John.S92 Před rokem

      @@krazycharlie sort of, but not only, more of "halfbaked ideas and good intentions but with the attention-span of a hamster", or perhaps imagine it as someone writing a letter starting out good, gets halfway and just goes "meeh.. to in the middle of the letter just writing "bye!"

  • @GaviLazan
    @GaviLazan Před rokem +2

    Most (all?) airports don't do a security screening or have a metal detector for incoming flights. The only time you'll go through security after landing is when you are making a connection. Things might be different in China, but in every other country I've been to (including Israel which has notoriously strict security) there is no security screening upon landing.

  • @autoentropy
    @autoentropy Před rokem +1

    Maybe Chinese citizens want CPUs that the CPP has not required the chipmaker put backdoor access into

  • @mynechan
    @mynechan Před rokem

    Same goes for my government. 2x the price of phones. 5x the price of the car. They even now put taxes on Graphics Card just now. One can only buy GTX 1650 at the price of like RTX 3060 and it hurts. The reason is even more absured. Because thesse are "royalties" items and are not needded in daily life of an average person.

  • @asnovasdodia
    @asnovasdodia Před rokem

    They do have a PC industry there. Dell manufactures laptops. RAM, SSDs, motherboards and such things are made in the country... It seems weird, but since their salaries are lower, it kind of makes sense.

  • @5minutereviews296
    @5minutereviews296 Před rokem

    time to get Denis smuggling

  • @realfoggy
    @realfoggy Před rokem

    CCCP canceled this LMG clip. It won't load.

  • @anotherdenin
    @anotherdenin Před rokem +1

    In India, we have high customs/import tariff because the government wants to encourage manufacturing within India.

    • @hashbrown3008
      @hashbrown3008 Před rokem

      Except having an Indian wife, I get frustrated when the family expects me to buy them iPhones from Singapore and haul it back. India ain’t gonna be capable of manufacturing iPhone chipsets anytime soon. The Modi government “Make in India” policy only makes sense if you have domestic capability and talent. No way TSMC is gonna set up fabs in India unless the exodus of Indian engineers decide to leave the greener pastures of North America back to the third world.

    • @namesurname624
      @namesurname624 Před rokem

      @@hashbrown3008 why not? when returning they will be kings in their old land

  • @gg2324
    @gg2324 Před rokem

    Yeah sure brazil have high tariffs on electronics but have you tried buying a car in turkey

  • @Azzysdesignworks
    @Azzysdesignworks Před rokem

    Unbugged Iphones?

  • @bemshire
    @bemshire Před rokem

    so why do they resort to smuggling them instead of other means? i get yes there is a shortage but why are they resorting to smuggling them and why is it illegal?

  • @benjaminlannstrom8312

    They didnt ad weight to the belly?? Still would be busted but... huuh?

  • @Dave102693
    @Dave102693 Před rokem +2

    The US indirectly banned China from producing high-end chipsets or for countries to work with China to do that.

    • @john36855
      @john36855 Před rokem

      Yup. Biden is trying to block China from having the highest end chips to try to hamper their development progress. This happened back in Nov and I am actually surprised it isn’t a larger news topic. US is also putting pressure on other places (like Taiwan) to stop selling to China as well.

    • @scorpiom8053
      @scorpiom8053 Před rokem

      Shame on US and their cold war mentality. It's time to live in peace.