Im an ecologist who runs a self-sufficient farm, and the best thing that you can do for the environment is eat grass fed. The reason cows produce so much in the way of methane is because they are being fed massive amounts of grains. These grains cause acidosis in the rumen and kills the microbiome. So they end up with a microbiome imbalance in their rumens, and they can't properly digest the food. This causes a build-up of gas and causes very watery diarrhea that these poor animals have to stand in. So by eating grass fed, you are paying for a cow who was out on pasture and allowed to eat his natural diet, so he's not producing so much in the way of emissions. He's not tied up in a barn standing in his own waste, so you're also being more humane. A grass fed cow really does only have one bad day in his life. Ok, 2 bad days because im sure castration isn't fun. Also, think of the happy chickens, pigs, ducks, and all of the other animals who are pooping outside where it can be used up by plants and keeping the soil healthy, rather than in a barn that gets cleaned a few times a year and piled up into huge mounds where it isn't used for anything. Even better if you have space and can grow some of your own vegetables along with buying grass fed meat and dairy. This is how you help animals and the environment.
Let's all hope our gov doesn't make owning your own grass fed cows illegal. Or selling meat. Because it sure looks like they're pressing in that direction. BTW, I buy a half gf cow every year. Keep up your good work producing healthy protein.
Hats off to Dr. Lyon! I can't over emphasize the importance of diet, but I want to really emphasize exercise and muscle enhancement in the aging population. I am just now turning 71 years old and also entering my 56th year with Juvenile Diabetes (aka T1D). In 1969 my endocrinologist assured me I would never live beyond my early 30s and I would suffer from blindness, kidney failure and neuopathy (so far - I have none of those complications). At the time of my diagnosis, I was a very active teenager doing everything including weightlifting. At 71, I still lift heavty weights twice/week and ride a spinning bike 4 days/week. I am currently in a research program at the Barbara Davis center to study bone density in diabetics and my T-scores are all above 1.0 and my Z-scores of significantly above 1.0. Basically this means my bone density is very very good for my age and probably way above normal. Because of my muscle mass, I am stronger, more balanced and healthier than any of my peers. I believe that anyone above the age of 60 can build muscle/strength and live without fear of hurting themselves! Just Do It!...........Larry
@@koolkeith8908 living with nature and having a supporting community may be infinitely more important to health than diet, Okinawan elders spend a lot time outdoors with their friends
This is one of the best interviews I’ve seen with her!! 🙌🙌 I wish more woman in particular understood this concept…. Eat meat, (proteins) lift heavy things rest and repeat keep it simple … don’t overdo cardio ..preserve that muscle
Agree except for “no fasting in 60’s”. I’m in my 60’s and have gained muscle and lost fat using fasting, the right amount of protein for me on eating days, and weight training in the gym 6 days/wk. that is what works in my N=1 experiment/experience.
@ZyklonBeast I’ll have to listen to it again. I did not hear her say “chronic fasting” I heard her say “people in their 60’s should not *be fasting*. I guess I could have missed it. In which case I wonder what “chronic fasting” even is.
@ZyklonBeast I meant what I said. I have to listen to it again to see if I can get her point rather than interpretations of it. Speaking of being obtuse, please tell us why you choose to identify with your particular screen name.
Right on Ron...I enjoy giving my digestive system a rest and the clarity of the mind...energy is pleasing. Love the guest but sensible fasting seems to work for me...us.
This lady is brilliant. What a great interview. Emphasizing the importance of muscle mass over and above the fat and carb intake especially as we age is an exceptually interesting viewpoint, along with the rest of your valuable information.
There are studies showing higher glycemic diets result in less muscle and more fat and a given body weight. She talks out of both sides of her mouth. Denies hormones when it comes to carbs vs fat but prescribes TRT.
i luv the phrase, "context matters." we all jump to conclusions without fully understanding the topic at hand. the media has no idea of what "context" means.
Mike! Looks like you’ve been hitting the weights! Great gains. I love Dr. Lyon and her under-muscled viewpoint. I might suggest that y’all rephrase “You must lift weights.” You must practice progressive resistance, but you needn’t lift weights. I rarely lift weights, but I train everyday calisthenics and continue to build strength and muscle at age 59. Go climb a rope in L-sit without your legs. It’s freakin’ difficult.
👍 "Go climb a rope in L-sit without your legs. It’s freakin’ difficult." 👍 Climbing a rope is difficult enough for the vast majority of people. L-sits are extremely difficult for most. Now combine the two 🤣
@@optimismrules2512 You make a movement easier or harder in calisthenics to challenge your current strength or skill level. That’s the progressive overload part.
53 here, and iam lifting weights as hard as I can. If iam in shape my body looks like a 30 year old female body. Prefer full body workouts. Hitting my macros in my 20:4 feeding window. First Meal 60g Protein, Second Meal 30g Protein. Third Meal (More a snack 15g Protein) Do a strictly 20:4 from Monday to Friday. On weekends mostly a 16:8 or 14:10. Avoid Lectins, follow Dr. Gundrys Recommendations. This Interview was mindblowing. Thanks a lot.
I would love to hear a real live healthy old person talk about healthy aging and demonstrating it rather than a lot of people under 60 talking about it! Healthy aging is just a theory until a healthy old person actually experiences it and can teach it. Other wise it’s just blather.
I think some great women to check out 70 and over might be Wendy Ida (70) and Ernastine Shepard (late 80's) off the top of my head. I know there's more Goddesses out there but body building specifically those two are supreme.
What I like about her- great knowledge base, articulate, attractive, and obviously practices what she preaches. She is lean and has plenty of muscle. She isn’t scrawny.
Bone quality does decrease with age, but there is definitely something that one can do about it. Plenty of doctors discuss grain consumption’s negative effect on bone density, joint health. Dr. William Davis states such in his book Wheat Belly (revised and expanded).
I don't trust books anymore. I read all these books on diabetes, half said eat a high carb diet and other half said eat high fat diet. Which one is it? Some say eat nothing but meat while others say eat nothing but plants. Nutrition is extremely confusing
I LOVE Dr. Lyon! Feel compelled to share. I'm 64 yo female. At my last physical, my new PCP (my other one retired) said that I don't need to take another bone density test for a few years because my bone density is "outstanding". I cheered! I disagree that women lose muscle inevitably. I certainly am not. Working out is my passion & was my profession. I taught weight lifting & kickboxing & water aerobics before pandemic. I think maybe our muscles have a memory about the amt of hours you put in! Seriously, I see a before & after difference after weight lifting one hr. Just my upper body tho (not legs). Just saying.
I would really love it if you did a video focusing on the protocols for people who are 60+. I listen to podcast after podcast and if they talk about what activity a person should undertake it is typically focused on the 40 something age group. What is it that we can do in our 60s? Or are we too old? You knowledge and wisdom on this would be greatly appreciated.
Can we also talk about how most doctors don't really consider body composition when determining if someone is over weight I have friends with a healthy amount of muscle mass with around 15% or so of bodyfat being told that they are overweight also keep in mind that these nurses and doctors are actually overweight or even obese 🤫
My blood work showed higher creatinine levels and my doctor said I'm at risk for kidney disease. He knew my background of being active and heavy lifting and having higher levels of muscle mass than a sedentary person, and he still said that. I didn't go back.
@@TiMalice2009 And you're sure it was adipose rather than any other possibilities? Sucks if so, glad you're happier and all I just like conclusiveness.
Absolutely LOOOOOOVED this episode. Especially the ending. I agree w Dr. Lyon that the division caused by choosing to eat meat or not is a distraction. One of the speakers at the WEF meeting in Davos, recently, said how he's wanting to convert the population away from red meat for 'climate change.' This guy is a multi-billionaire. Where does he put his money? Who can he influence? I'll bet he and his friends are able to influence governmental systems and food pyramids and will attempt to influence cultures. Great work, Mike and Dr. Lyon. Keep fighting the fight.
Dr. Gabrielle is very interesting to listen to and I really enjoyed the conversation. I'll be looking forward to the book. I hope it come out in audiobook. Good to listen to while working out or cycling.
Love her focus and how she describes benefits of muscle strength.... I've worked in nursing homes for over a decade and Dr L is spot on.... Wolf's law says the forces of muscles on bones is major contributor to healthy bone density- so those that age without strength nor daily challenging type movement patterns will lose more bone density than if they had worked on strenuous activities/ resistance type training etc. Thank you- informative.. & PS: I sent my integrative doctor an article about elevated liver enzymes associated with weight training which I do - but it was a few months after I got the poison J&J 1 dose... so I thought maybe they elevated secondary to the jab... thx for reminding me about that !
I call it bone shock, hitting, jumping stresses the bones which ultimately has all the marrow for red blood cells, I believe actions that send stress into the skeletal system not joints is an unknown system for biological strength. Off topic but it came to me after observation of various martial art systems that develop the bones.
Your point about bodybuilders and athletes is great but also double edged, as those populations also overconsume both carbohydrates AND calories as well as protein. So, if they don't have a disproportionate occurrence of cancer, then it would single out obesity as the primary driver of these disease states, or perhaps lack of activity or lack of adequate muscle mass. We're now learning about myokines, which may in themselves be health promoting to the point of preventing these diseases.
She said don’t do fasting in your 60’s. I’m 71 and I do daily intermittent fasting and monthly 36 to 48 hr fasting and I also do resistance training with weights and have gained muscle and lost body fat, though I still want to lose more body fat. I’m not over weight, but I would like to lose subcutaneous body fat to help muscle show up better. ( I’m also a cancer survivor, so to me the fasting is essential.)
Thanks for this! One of my favorite conversations you’ve done! Really enjoy seeing you get into the weeds with dr Lyon and picking her brain! Everything was so insightful and great questions asked! What she said about bone quality / osteoporosis made so much sense!!
Regarding the myth that people are chronically deficient in protein which was debunked decades ago, an editorial in the Lancet started with: “The dispassionate objectivity of scientists is a myth. No scientist is simply involved in the single-minded pursuit of truth, he or she is also engaged in the passionate pursuit of research grants and professional success. Nutritionists may wish to attack malnutrition, but they also wish to earn their living in ways they find congenial.” This inevitably encourages researchers to “make a case...” Reminds me of the present case.
I'm 55, no access to a gym but hike and bike for lower body and do free weights on a bench. Been down the keto/carnivore/IF/PF (2 weeks once!) road in 2020/21 and have been ultra low carb for the last 6 weeks but sticking with 160g protein, 140g fat for weight loss with the meals split over 3 a day to try and not waste it by turning it into glycogen...lost a stone in the last month and slowly getting fat adapted again...
Awesome topic. I love that you were talking about muscle and protein and, potentially, fueling tumors. My wife and I were talking about that this morning. Her concern is that even organic meat has hormones, pesticides, as well as other things that can lead to bad outcomes. My own thought is to find out if that information comes from the folks who want NOT to eat meat. Any thoughts?
@Betty Amber Thank you SOOO much for your response. My wife is vegetarian and I'm not. We get into many discussions/ debates about healthy diets. I def. agree with you about proper sourcing of food- meats, eggs, milk, fish, etc. Great response. Mike needs someone like you on his show! haha! Thanks, again.
I love listening to both of you! Great interview Mike. As a 53yr post menopausal woman, I find this information critical. I was told 10 yrs ago (118 pounds of skinny fat) that my insulin was 3x the normal 1-3 hrs after eating a meal, and that I was pre-diabetic. Fast forward 10 years, no regular weight training due to multiple ortho surgeries, and menopause 20lb belly fat weight gain, and I feel like crap. Dr. Lyon has convinced me to focus on my protein and lift weights! I’m around 135lbs and my in body scan said to lose 15lbs fat and then gain 11lbs of muscle. My goal weight is 120. Do you think I need to shoot for 120 grams of protein? And how many days of weight training?
Iam 53. my daily Proteinintake is about 100g, fat also, carbs about 50-60g. From Monday till Friday I do 20:4. On weekends 16:8 or 3 meals a day. I do little bit cardio, but not much. It is important lifting weight as hard as you can. And I do this. As hard as I can. That’s important. Fokus on your resistance training. Get muscles, train really hard.
Well worth the effort: Ask these ladies about those synthetic meats, because they have done intensive studies and reports on them: Janet Ossebaard & Cyntha Koeter
As a newbie trying to educate myself about health and what I can do, I found this topic very interesting but did find myself lost sometimes. I took lots notes!
I’ll be 55 here in j. I’ve been increasing my protein . Eating 4 to5 organic eggs and avocado 🥑. Some day’s I’ll do low carb.some days I’ll eat more after my fast. Just trying to stay healthy and get lean
Great job Dr Lyon!! Great info and want to give props on that arm and shoulder that is shown. You are in incredible shape. Beautiful and smart as all get out. Much props
Great conversation. She is correct, it takes so long to put muscle mass on. I've been lifting for 28 years (46 now). The past year I've really been pushing myself, while avoiding overtraining injuries. If my body weight scale is correct, I put on 5.6lbs of muscle in 8 months. Doesn't sound like a lot, but at my age without the help of test or gear I think it's pretty decent. A1C, BP cholesterol are all perfect and I take zero meds. I've never taken a prescription medication in my life (other than antibiotics for an infected cut).
My great grandmother was 40 kg and like 1.3 m high. Her arms were so skinny and she never worked outside the house only took care of kids. She also only knew how to writhe her own name. She lived 104 years.
I just turned 60 years old - so very sad Lyon said no fasting for 60 yrs old.... I put on about 20 lbs of body fat every 3 months (hopefully a bit of muscle too)... then I fast for 2 weeks (2 weeks if I am good and don't cheat) and lose the 20 pounds. Rinse & repeat... over & over. Now I can dance salsa for 4 hours straight and outlast ladies in their 20s (ladies are fit are good regular dancers but don't have the stamina). Fast is a nothing but water fast. Only add vitamins and a carnatine+taurine+creatine+salts drink (salts:electrolytes/minerals) Seems to work for me: last 3 months 178 lbs to 158 lbs to 176 lbs, about time for another fast 🙂Another youtuber claimed you get a natural 20 times!!! increase in HGH immediately after coming off a long fast - not seen a white paper on it so not sure if this is true.
What premium content to have free access too, many thanks. I would like to point out that as seen from me who's somewhat familiar with most of the topics discussed here that the pace at which you go through the points is rather fast for adequate comprehension.
the first muscles to go will be the core too heavy or too light it needs to protect the spine and keep it functional and fluid without a correctly aligned spine you can't maintain the mental state you need to be optimal
This lady keeps talking about muscle and longevity. She is still young. Does she have any clients that live more than 100 years with this motto or all that is just a theory? I am all for building muscle but the confidence in her without any data is astounding
Hi Mike, I take LAC TRI-ACTION MUSCLE SUSTAIN: 92 CALORIES 300 MG L-GLUTAMINE + 17G PROTEIN 800MG + CREATINE MONOHYDRATE with HMB 700 MG. Per serving [1 scoop 25g] has 90.25 Kcal, 4 g fat and 17.3 g protein]. I take 2 scoops one before exercise and one before bed. What do you think is this supplement enough for an 86 years old like me? Your advice is much appreciated.
I agree with everything she says. I'm into life extension, but I believe muscle and protein are important. Except I'm more into upregulate mitochondria with supplements other than just urolithen and creatine like coq10, pqq, gly nac, nmn etc.
Okay. I'm all in on the need to take in a gram of protein for every pound of body weight. But what about people like me who are on SNAP Benefits (food stamps) and on disability? By definition, this means we have very little money to be buying meat and protein supplements. What can be done to actually get Congress to increase SNAP benefits so that people like us can afford to eat a nutritious diet given the price of eggs, which used to be a pretty cheap source of protein?
3:41 because of C14, our cells and our DNA are in constant decay so we need protein for maintenance, and growth. People really are far too protein deficient, while overly carbed up for not being athletes, or long-hour workers
She right about muscle mass and strength. I have mlre muscle now than I was 8 years ago but I stopped lifting heavy and my strength isnt even close to where it used to be. I look way better but I'm a lot weaker.
Kindly disagree on the fasting subject on the elderly, fasting can help them specially because of the cellular recycling component (autophagy), HGH improvement, natural antioxidant production increases and just overall better insulin sensitivity in general 🤷🏻♂️
Im an ecologist who runs a self-sufficient farm, and the best thing that you can do for the environment is eat grass fed. The reason cows produce so much in the way of methane is because they are being fed massive amounts of grains. These grains cause acidosis in the rumen and kills the microbiome. So they end up with a microbiome imbalance in their rumens, and they can't properly digest the food. This causes a build-up of gas and causes very watery diarrhea that these poor animals have to stand in. So by eating grass fed, you are paying for a cow who was out on pasture and allowed to eat his natural diet, so he's not producing so much in the way of emissions. He's not tied up in a barn standing in his own waste, so you're also being more humane. A grass fed cow really does only have one bad day in his life. Ok, 2 bad days because im sure castration isn't fun. Also, think of the happy chickens, pigs, ducks, and all of the other animals who are pooping outside where it can be used up by plants and keeping the soil healthy, rather than in a barn that gets cleaned a few times a year and piled up into huge mounds where it isn't used for anything. Even better if you have space and can grow some of your own vegetables along with buying grass fed meat and dairy. This is how you help animals and the environment.
You know Carol you are making too much sense for these mass production loving madness.
Timely post @CarolAllison😉
Reading the Book , " Sacred Cow " right now🙂
A fabulous Documentary was made a couple years ago as well
Let's all hope our gov doesn't make owning your own grass fed cows illegal. Or selling meat. Because it sure looks like they're pressing in that direction. BTW, I buy a half gf cow every year. Keep up your good work producing healthy protein.
I tried to find studies to say its true but so far all articles point corn produce less than grass eating cows? Is it censorship? Any links to studies
Well said. The folks with tunnel vision won't see the worth in paying just a little more to save the planet.
Hats off to Dr. Lyon! I can't over emphasize the importance of diet, but I want to really emphasize exercise and muscle enhancement in the aging population. I am just now turning 71 years old and also entering my 56th year with Juvenile Diabetes (aka T1D). In 1969 my endocrinologist assured me I would never live beyond my early 30s and I would suffer from blindness, kidney failure and neuopathy (so far - I have none of those complications). At the time of my diagnosis, I was a very active teenager doing everything including weightlifting. At 71, I still lift heavty weights twice/week and ride a spinning bike 4 days/week. I am currently in a research program at the Barbara Davis center to study bone density in diabetics and my T-scores are all above 1.0 and my Z-scores of significantly above 1.0. Basically this means my bone density is very very good for my age and probably way above normal.
Because of my muscle mass, I am stronger, more balanced and healthier than any of my peers. I believe that anyone above the age of 60 can build muscle/strength and live without fear of hurting themselves! Just Do It!...........Larry
Dr. Lyon is the only one who has been making complete sense the whole time while everyone has been fighting over carbs vs fat
Not really. Eggs with yolks build muscle better than protein. Carbs are fattening.
@@johngosnell3847Lol do you even realize what you wrote?
In Okinawa, JAPAN with the highest number of centennarians, they're not fighting about anything.
@@koolkeith8908 living with nature and having a supporting community may be infinitely more important to health than diet, Okinawan elders spend a lot time outdoors with their friends
@@sugameltpastriescoffee7186 Yes!
This is one of the best interviews I’ve seen with her!! 🙌🙌
I wish more woman in particular understood this concept…. Eat meat, (proteins) lift heavy things rest and repeat keep it simple … don’t overdo cardio ..preserve that muscle
Damn your gorgeous yourself
Or eat plant based proteins! But yes, build those muscles
Two highly intelligent people with integrity having an awesome conversation! Thank you!
Agree except for “no fasting in 60’s”. I’m in my 60’s and have gained muscle and lost fat using fasting, the right amount of protein for me on eating days, and weight training in the gym 6 days/wk. that is what works in my N=1 experiment/experience.
@ZyklonBeast I’ll have to listen to it again. I did not hear her say “chronic fasting” I heard her say “people in their 60’s should not *be fasting*. I guess I could have missed it. In which case I wonder what “chronic fasting” even is.
I am sure she means fasting over 20h
You’re right, Ron. People do mental gymnastics to rationalize false statements from someone they look up to.
@ZyklonBeast I meant what I said. I have to listen to it again to see if I can get her point rather than interpretations of it. Speaking of being obtuse, please tell us why you choose to identify with your particular screen name.
Right on Ron...I enjoy giving my digestive system a rest and the clarity of the mind...energy is pleasing. Love the guest but sensible fasting seems to work for me...us.
I love a Dr. that practices what she preaches. Great interview!!
This lady is brilliant. What a great interview. Emphasizing the importance of muscle mass over and above the fat and carb intake especially as we age is an exceptually interesting viewpoint, along with the rest of your valuable information.
There are studies showing higher glycemic diets result in less muscle and more fat and a given body weight. She talks out of both sides of her mouth. Denies hormones when it comes to carbs vs fat but prescribes TRT.
Thank you, Mike for having Dr Lyon on the show! I found her work thanks to your first episode with her and I am grateful for that.
Right off the bat she tackles mtor, cancer, protein, and why it isn’t bad. Blew my mind. Good stuff.
I love when two of my favorites do a podcast together! Thanks for all the great info as always 😊
She's awesome . Always enjoy her interview .
Very well spoken and thorough with the muscle centric side of everyday health n general fitness 👏😎
Dr Lyon seems very trustworthy and genuine. I love this interview.
i luv the phrase, "context matters." we all jump to conclusions without fully understanding the topic at hand. the media has no idea of what "context" means.
Mike! Looks like you’ve been hitting the weights! Great gains.
I love Dr. Lyon and her under-muscled viewpoint.
I might suggest that y’all rephrase “You must lift weights.” You must practice progressive resistance, but you needn’t lift weights. I rarely lift weights, but I train everyday calisthenics and continue to build strength and muscle at age 59. Go climb a rope in L-sit without your legs. It’s freakin’ difficult.
👍 "Go climb a rope in L-sit without your legs. It’s freakin’ difficult." 👍 Climbing a rope is difficult enough for the vast majority of people. L-sits are extremely difficult for most. Now combine the two 🤣
People who are untrained shouldn't go climb a rope that's your whole bodyweight. Resistance of vary types works but progressive overload does help.
@@optimismrules2512 You make a movement easier or harder in calisthenics to challenge your current strength or skill level. That’s the progressive overload part.
Great discussion.... better information! 🤙🏾💪🏾
Love Gabrielle, looking forward to this one.
53 here, and iam lifting weights as hard as I can. If iam in shape my body looks like a 30 year old female body. Prefer full body workouts.
Hitting my macros in my 20:4 feeding window. First Meal 60g Protein, Second Meal 30g Protein. Third Meal (More a snack 15g Protein)
Do a strictly 20:4 from Monday to Friday. On weekends mostly a 16:8 or 14:10.
Avoid Lectins, follow Dr. Gundrys Recommendations.
This Interview was mindblowing. Thanks a lot.
When people come on and talk about aging and longevity you should make them show their driver's license with their DOB on it.
Lol
so much value in this podcast, Dr Gabby is beast. Please bring her back on at some point!!!!!1
great interview!
I would love to hear a real live healthy old person talk about healthy aging and demonstrating it rather than a lot of people under 60 talking about it! Healthy aging is just a theory until a healthy old person actually experiences it and can teach it. Other wise it’s just blather.
I think some great women to check out 70 and over might be Wendy Ida (70) and Ernastine Shepard (late 80's) off the top of my head. I know there's more Goddesses out there but body building specifically those two are supreme.
What I like about her- great knowledge base, articulate, attractive, and obviously practices what she preaches. She is lean and has plenty of muscle. She isn’t scrawny.
Bone quality does decrease with age, but there is definitely something that one can do about it. Plenty of doctors discuss grain consumption’s negative effect on bone density, joint health. Dr. William Davis states such in his book Wheat Belly (revised and expanded).
I don't trust books anymore.
I read all these books on diabetes, half said eat a high carb diet and other half said eat high fat diet.
Which one is it?
Some say eat nothing but meat while others say eat nothing but plants.
Nutrition is extremely confusing
Doctors…. Wouldn’t know
Great podcast Mike .Best guest ever !Gabrielle is a top professional in health and longevity. Fantastic information thank you both .
I LOVE Dr. Lyon! Feel compelled to share. I'm 64 yo female. At my last physical, my new PCP (my other one retired) said that I don't need to take another bone density test for a few years because my bone density is "outstanding". I cheered! I disagree that women lose muscle inevitably. I certainly am not. Working out is my passion & was my profession. I taught weight lifting & kickboxing & water aerobics before pandemic. I think maybe our muscles have a memory about the amt of hours you put in! Seriously, I see a before & after difference after weight lifting one hr. Just my upper body tho (not legs). Just saying.
I would really love it if you did a video focusing on the protocols for people who are 60+.
I listen to podcast after podcast and if they talk about what activity a person should undertake it is typically focused on the 40 something age group.
What is it that we can do in our 60s? Or are we too old?
You knowledge and wisdom on this would be greatly appreciated.
Look up a guy that goes by Rock The Clock here on CZcams. You're not too old! He's as strong as an ox!💪🏼🤙🏼
Great interview! Muscle health is incredibly important and not talked about enough.
1:00:00 Love your arguments about diet and climate change. So clear, confident and direct in what you believe.
Can we also talk about how most doctors don't really consider body composition when determining if someone is over weight I have friends with a healthy amount of muscle mass with around 15% or so of bodyfat being told that they are overweight also keep in mind that these nurses and doctors are actually overweight or even obese 🤫
My blood work showed higher creatinine levels and my doctor said I'm at risk for kidney disease. He knew my background of being active and heavy lifting and having higher levels of muscle mass than a sedentary person, and he still said that. I didn't go back.
Thanks Mike. Great work as always.
I followed her advice and gained over 20 lbs. I went back to my low carb paleo plan with protein at every meal capping net carbs at 100 gms.
20lbs of what though?
Yeah I’ve experimented with carbs and they’re definitely fattening. CICO with an asterisk for protein is still cico.
@@IgnoreMeImWrong Fat. I’m not crazy. If I was losing sizes I would have no complaints.
@@TiMalice2009 And you're sure it was adipose rather than any other possibilities? Sucks if so, glad you're happier and all I just like conclusiveness.
She is Queen of protein ;) I love to listen to her.
Absolutely LOOOOOOVED this episode. Especially the ending. I agree w Dr. Lyon that the division caused by choosing to eat meat or not is a distraction. One of the speakers at the WEF meeting in Davos, recently, said how he's wanting to convert the population away from red meat for 'climate change.' This guy is a multi-billionaire. Where does he put his money? Who can he influence? I'll bet he and his friends are able to influence governmental systems and food pyramids and will attempt to influence cultures. Great work, Mike and Dr. Lyon. Keep fighting the fight.
Dr. Gabrielle is very interesting to listen to and I really enjoyed the conversation. I'll be looking forward to the book. I hope it come out in audiobook. Good to listen to while working out or cycling.
Really enjoyed this interview. Very impressed with the depth of knowledge that Dr. Lyon gave out. Thank you!!
Love her focus and how she describes benefits of muscle strength.... I've worked in nursing homes for over a decade and Dr L is spot on.... Wolf's law says the forces of muscles on bones is major contributor to healthy bone density- so those that age without strength nor daily challenging type movement patterns will lose more bone density than if they had worked on strenuous activities/ resistance type training etc. Thank you- informative.. & PS: I sent my integrative doctor an article about elevated liver enzymes associated with weight training which I do - but it was a few months after I got the poison J&J 1 dose... so I thought maybe they elevated secondary to the jab... thx for reminding me about that !
I call it bone shock, hitting, jumping stresses the bones which ultimately has all the marrow for red blood cells, I believe actions that send stress into the skeletal system not joints is an unknown system for biological strength. Off topic but it came to me after observation of various martial art systems that develop the bones.
Woohoo! Keep the excellent content coming!!
Such a cool conversation. I’m learning so much from your work / research / guests. Thank you!!
Your point about bodybuilders and athletes is great but also double edged, as those populations also overconsume both carbohydrates AND calories as well as protein. So, if they don't have a disproportionate occurrence of cancer, then it would single out obesity as the primary driver of these disease states, or perhaps lack of activity or lack of adequate muscle mass. We're now learning about myokines, which may in themselves be health promoting to the point of preventing these diseases.
Bones will deteriorate, But keeping Your muscles strong as you age will make a big difference in how much you will suffer. She is so right!
Great stuff Mike, absolutely love her work and focus on muscle as health.
noone inspires me to exercise more than dr lyon
the 1 to 1 gram for protein is bro science, its actually maximum of .80 per pound, everything after is wasted- unless youre a juicer.
She said don’t do fasting in your 60’s. I’m 71 and I do daily intermittent fasting and monthly 36 to 48 hr fasting and I also do resistance training with weights and have gained muscle and lost body fat, though I still want to lose more body fat. I’m not over weight, but I would like to lose subcutaneous body fat to help muscle show up better. ( I’m also a cancer survivor, so to me the fasting is essential.)
She doesn’t know anything. She screwed me up so bad with her stupid advice.
Thanks for this! One of my favorite conversations you’ve done! Really enjoy seeing you get into the weeds with dr Lyon and picking her brain! Everything was so insightful and great questions asked! What she said about bone quality / osteoporosis made so much sense!!
Dr Lyon is so on point, nutritionally and politically!
💯 agree! Refreshing.
Regarding the myth that people are chronically deficient in protein which was debunked decades ago, an editorial in the Lancet started with: “The dispassionate objectivity of scientists is a myth. No scientist is simply involved in the single-minded pursuit of truth, he or she is also engaged in the passionate pursuit of research grants and professional success. Nutritionists may wish to attack malnutrition, but they also wish to earn their living in ways they find congenial.” This inevitably encourages researchers to “make a case...” Reminds me of the present case.
I'm 55, no access to a gym but hike and bike for lower body and do free weights on a bench. Been down the keto/carnivore/IF/PF (2 weeks once!) road in 2020/21 and have been ultra low carb for the last 6 weeks but sticking with 160g protein, 140g fat for weight loss with the meals split over 3 a day to try and not waste it by turning it into glycogen...lost a stone in the last month and slowly getting fat adapted again...
Awesome topic. I love that you were talking about muscle and protein and, potentially, fueling tumors. My wife and I were talking about that this morning. Her concern is that even organic meat has hormones, pesticides, as well as other things that can lead to bad outcomes. My own thought is to find out if that information comes from the folks who want NOT to eat meat. Any thoughts?
@Betty Amber Thank you SOOO much for your response. My wife is vegetarian and I'm not. We get into many discussions/ debates about healthy diets. I def. agree with you about proper sourcing of food- meats, eggs, milk, fish, etc. Great response. Mike needs someone like you on his show! haha! Thanks, again.
I am not seeing Betty Amber’s comments
She seems to have a deft and nuanced understanding of the body, science and culture. Very interesting interview.
Love, love, love everything on this podcast! Thank you!
I love listening to both of you! Great interview Mike. As a 53yr post menopausal woman, I find this information critical. I was told 10 yrs ago (118 pounds of skinny fat) that my insulin was 3x the normal 1-3 hrs after eating a meal, and that I was pre-diabetic. Fast forward 10 years, no regular weight training due to multiple ortho surgeries, and menopause 20lb belly fat weight gain, and I feel like crap. Dr. Lyon has convinced me to focus on my protein and lift weights! I’m around 135lbs and my in body scan said to lose 15lbs fat and then gain 11lbs of muscle. My goal weight is 120. Do you think I need to shoot for 120 grams of protein? And how many days of weight training?
Iam 53. my daily Proteinintake is about 100g, fat also, carbs about 50-60g. From Monday till Friday I do 20:4. On weekends 16:8 or 3 meals a day. I do little bit cardio, but not much. It is important lifting weight as hard as you can. And I do this. As hard as I can. That’s important. Fokus on your resistance training. Get muscles, train really hard.
outstanding interview and information. Thank you for both of your bravery in calling out the BS!
Another Mike upload.
Can't wait to evolve further!
I love dr. Lyon she is great
Well worth the effort: Ask these ladies about those synthetic meats, because they have done intensive studies and reports on them:
Janet Ossebaard & Cyntha Koeter
Would love to see you do a podcast with Dr. Longo Voltor.
Mum is over weight. Just had a health scare. I'm not allowed to talk about her being overweight. So started talking about benefits of adding muscle
As a newbie trying to educate myself about health and what I can do, I found this topic very interesting but did find myself lost sometimes. I took lots notes!
@HighIntensityHealth.... Oh wow! I was not expecting a response! Lol and hope this response is telegram?! 😊
I’ll be 55 here in j. I’ve been increasing my protein . Eating 4 to5 organic eggs and avocado 🥑. Some day’s I’ll do low carb.some days I’ll eat more after my fast. Just trying to stay healthy and get lean
you guys are absolutely right - loved listening to this interview -
Great job Dr Lyon!! Great info and want to give props on that arm and shoulder that is shown. You are in incredible shape. Beautiful and smart as all get out. Much props
Hopefully you will have Thomas Seyfried on next to talk about how cancer is a mitochondrial metabolic disease.
Great conversation. She is correct, it takes so long to put muscle mass on. I've been lifting for 28 years (46 now). The past year I've really been pushing myself, while avoiding overtraining injuries. If my body weight scale is correct, I put on 5.6lbs of muscle in 8 months. Doesn't sound like a lot, but at my age without the help of test or gear I think it's pretty decent. A1C, BP cholesterol are all perfect and I take zero meds. I've never taken a prescription medication in my life (other than antibiotics for an infected cut).
My great grandmother was 40 kg and like 1.3 m high. Her arms were so skinny and she never worked outside the house only took care of kids. She also only knew how to writhe her own name. She lived 104 years.
Thank you for sharing this information xxx peace and love.
What an amazing informative interview.
I was wondering why do women live longer than men on average if muscle is important for longevity?
Great conversation! Definitely going to share with family members.
Mike, you're looking pretty good bro!
Great interview! Thank you so much. 🫶🏽
I just turned 60 years old - so very sad Lyon said no fasting for 60 yrs old.... I put on about 20 lbs of body fat every 3 months (hopefully a bit of muscle too)... then I fast for 2 weeks (2 weeks if I am good and don't cheat) and lose the 20 pounds. Rinse & repeat... over & over. Now I can dance salsa for 4 hours straight and outlast ladies in their 20s (ladies are fit are good regular dancers but don't have the stamina). Fast is a nothing but water fast. Only add vitamins and a carnatine+taurine+creatine+salts drink (salts:electrolytes/minerals) Seems to work for me: last 3 months 178 lbs to 158 lbs to 176 lbs, about time for another fast 🙂Another youtuber claimed you get a natural 20 times!!! increase in HGH immediately after coming off a long fast - not seen a white paper on it so not sure if this is true.
Best comment: “ Ground beef; You can hide liver in it.” 😂😊
Always love listening to Dr Lyon ,she's Brilliant 👏
What premium content to have free access too, many thanks.
I would like to point out that as seen from me who's somewhat familiar with most of the topics discussed here that the pace at which you go through the points is rather fast for adequate comprehension.
the first muscles to go will be the core too heavy or too light it needs to protect the spine and keep it functional and fluid
without a correctly aligned spine you can't maintain the mental state you need to be optimal
Agreed! I’m a massage therapist x24 years. I’d never give up my chiropractor adjustments!
Please do a podcast on vegetarian and vegan proteins for people who don’t eat meat
I thoroughly enjoyed this interview. Great information and great conversation. And let me just toss out there: what she said is not controversial.
Two of my Fav health experts in one place, excellent!!
Lots of good info here! Thanks Mike!
Legendary interview part III
I'm vegetarian and still watching
Love this!
This lady keeps talking about muscle and longevity. She is still young. Does she have any clients that live more than 100 years with this motto or all that is just a theory? I am all for building muscle but the confidence in her without any data is astounding
@Intensityhealth how ? :)
How old is she ? And yes you have valid question !
She has Phb is geriatric science I'm sure she has more data in her little finger than you do
Great episode again! Thanks!
Preach it Dr. Lyon. Music to my ears.
Gratitude, Book is pre-ordered.
Hi Mike, I take LAC TRI-ACTION MUSCLE SUSTAIN:
92 CALORIES 300 MG L-GLUTAMINE + 17G PROTEIN 800MG + CREATINE MONOHYDRATE with HMB 700 MG. Per serving [1 scoop 25g] has 90.25 Kcal, 4 g fat and 17.3 g protein]. I take 2 scoops one before exercise and one before bed. What do you think is this supplement enough for an 86 years old like me? Your advice is much appreciated.
@ᴛᴇxᴛ ᴍᴇ ᴏɴ ᴛᴇʟᴇɢʀᴀᴍ👉HighIntensityHealth Sorry Mike, I'm not tech savvy, so I don't know how to text you on telegram, Email can do.
I agree with everything she says. I'm into life extension, but I believe muscle and protein are important. Except I'm more into upregulate mitochondria with supplements other than just urolithen and creatine like coq10, pqq, gly nac, nmn etc.
Fat soluble thiamine is the key element for switching on mitochindria
Thanks Mike. Great interview. 👍
Okay. I'm all in on the need to take in a gram of protein for every pound of body weight. But what about people like me who are on SNAP Benefits (food stamps) and on disability? By definition, this means we have very little money to be buying meat and protein supplements. What can be done to actually get Congress to increase SNAP benefits so that people like us can afford to eat a nutritious diet given the price of eggs, which used to be a pretty cheap source of protein?
First time I've heard her speak. That was great!
Great content 👏🏻👏🏻 thanks you so much for all info 🙏🏻💚
Thanks the both of you, great stuff!
Great conversation!
3:41 because of C14, our cells and our DNA are in constant decay so we need protein for maintenance, and growth. People really are far too protein deficient, while overly carbed up for not being athletes, or long-hour workers
She right about muscle mass and strength. I have mlre muscle now than I was 8 years ago but I stopped lifting heavy and my strength isnt even close to where it used to be. I look way better but I'm a lot weaker.
Kindly disagree on the fasting subject on the elderly, fasting can help them specially because of the cellular recycling component (autophagy), HGH improvement, natural antioxidant production increases and just overall better insulin sensitivity in general 🤷🏻♂️
You two exude common sense, and promote a pathway anyone whom cares to follow,can.