Here’s Why Watch Experts Like Nico Leonard HATE Hublot (and MVMT)

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  • Why does Hublot get so much hate? Especially from Nico Leonard? We're taking a deep dive on the most hated watch brands (like MVMT) by watch experts and regular joes alike. Don't forget to let us know what you thought in the comments, and subscribe if you want to see more.
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  • @watchfinder
    @watchfinder  Před rokem +11

    We know you want more watches…. click here: linktr.ee/watchfinder

    • @pepepepito623
      @pepepepito623 Před 10 měsíci

      The longest Hublot commercial ever!
      Using funny walrus 'name and a misspelled word as points...
      "Dislike" and "don't recommend this channel "for sure,sanitized comment is expected.

  • @coolst0rybruh
    @coolst0rybruh Před 2 lety +919

    MVMT was the most significant watch i have ever purchased.
    It was SO BAD i started researching more about watches and got into mechanical heaven.

    • @joshuae9404
      @joshuae9404 Před 2 lety +88

      A friend has a MVMT watch (and still wears it). When he showed it to me, I saw something flying around in the watch and I got confused for a second - until he held his wrist still for a moment and I realized IT WAS THE HOUR MARKERS! Several (at least 4 or 5) of them had fallen off and he was like "Oh yeah, it's been like that for a few months now. They must have fallen off when I accidentally knocked the watch against the table or something".
      I swear I am not a watch snob but I haven't brought the topic up with him ever again.

    • @jk25653
      @jk25653 Před 2 lety +18

      Super happy for you. My first adult watch was Michael Kors. I cringe now. But, it has a sentimental value, so I still wear it. I hope you purchase something you love and keep for years to come!

    • @joshuae9404
      @joshuae9404 Před 2 lety +18

      @@jk25653 Sentimental value is super important, too. I have an Emporio Armani I got as a gift for my highschool graduation for my parents. I wore it almost daily for over 10 years and I cherish it to this day.

    • @Agent-vj3ns
      @Agent-vj3ns Před 2 lety +4

      @@jk25653 mine was a vsf 126610 submariner. I have 6 of them in black and 4 with green bezels. Lifetime supply of subs 😎

    • @jk25653
      @jk25653 Před 2 lety

      @@Agent-vj3ns Fantastic collection! I'm actually looking for a green bezel sub! You might be the man to call, so that I can snatch one off of you :]]. Enjoy your collection!

  • @a.krawion1872
    @a.krawion1872 Před 2 lety +682

    My problem with the Hublot is that I can't see the watch because I'm so focused on the screws that aren't aligned

    • @VersedNJ
      @VersedNJ Před 2 lety +40

      Doesn't matter, those who have them, are stoned on something and wouldn't notice. Got to find Nico drunk and put a Hublot on him.

    • @iggysfriend4431
      @iggysfriend4431 Před 2 lety +35

      God yes, I totally agree. Misaligned screws on a watch that expensive would drive me nuts. I've just seen a Tsar Bomba watch (never heard of the brand before) on Amazon for £189, it's a kind of ripoff/homage to the Hublot case design/shape, and it has all the screws aligned. If they can do it for under £200, why can't Hublot on a watch for £10k plus?

    • @jordigudiol4149
      @jordigudiol4149 Před 2 lety +5

      I believe they are not allowed to align them because that's a Royal Oak trademark/patent.

    • @a.krawion1872
      @a.krawion1872 Před 2 lety +14

      @@jordigudiol4149 You mean that as a joke? Only trademark AP has regarding the screws is the amount of screws. Royal oak has 8 Hublot has 6 so they are clear.

    • @Philipp673
      @Philipp673 Před 2 lety +12

      The Royal Oak hasn't aligned screws, these aren't screws but nuts that are held by screws from behind. In addition, the supposed screws of the Royal cannot be turned at all because they are hexagonal and embedded

  • @mdleweight
    @mdleweight Před 2 lety +234

    The "hate" of MVMT comes from their representing themselves as something they are not, and attempting to overcharge as a result. There is nothing wrong with a cheap disposable watch if it is priced as a cheap disposable watch.

    • @melody3741
      @melody3741 Před rokem +6

      EXACTLY. The disingenuity is the problem. If they were honest and fairly priced then I would consider them okay.

    • @David-ud9ju
      @David-ud9ju Před 11 měsíci +4

      From the name, the logo and the advertising, they're clearly a brand/marketing lead company who are doing exactly what you say. Using marketing and influencers and the California vibe to trick people into thinking it's cool to own a MVMT, but brand recognition and marketing is why people love the mediocre stuff that Disney make and why people buy iPhones, so you can't really criticise them for that.

    • @SuperBechti
      @SuperBechti Před 10 měsíci +1

      I think the hate of it comes from the fact that those watches are crap. That’s all

    • @In10sken
      @In10sken Před 8 měsíci

      The problem is that there are actually cheap brands that offers a higher quality than movrment.

    • @SuperBechti
      @SuperBechti Před 8 měsíci

      @@In10sken the quality is mainly in the movement if not it’s not a watch but a jewel

  • @kbbarton1
    @kbbarton1 Před 2 lety +185

    I had not ever imagined the possibility that a watch made out of recycled plastics could've sourced its materials from old loo brushes, but now that's in my head forever. Thanks a lot. :)

    • @markiangooley
      @markiangooley Před 2 lety +1

      Old loo brushes would probably provide higher-quality plastic than waste collected from the ocean.

    • @brianmsahin
      @brianmsahin Před 2 lety

      Of course now you can get a Moonswatch made out of recycled actual ceramic toilets and waste cooking oil!

    • @jerryglasses2229
      @jerryglasses2229 Před 2 lety

      I like the Hublot classic fusion 3 hand. Good looking watch but not for almost $8000 USD. At that price point there are so many nice watches better brand names.

    • @MrKinghuman
      @MrKinghuman Před 2 lety +2

      Took me a second to figure out what a loo brush was. Lol.

    • @patrickhascall7401
      @patrickhascall7401 Před rokem

      Utterly fraudulent.

  • @larsf.4756
    @larsf.4756 Před 2 lety +30

    Invicta has a very simple yet plausible value proposition: People have bad taste. Give them what they want at the lowest price possible. (It's not that easy to argue with that.)

    • @deansusec8745
      @deansusec8745 Před 2 lety +1

      Like restaurants- fast food pizza, mexican or chinese. People DO have bad taste, most are hillbillies.

    • @Mr_Paw_revised
      @Mr_Paw_revised Před 4 měsíci

      ⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@deansusec8745I love all of those. Almost always good food reasonably priced. With the exception of Domino’s. Their pizza was shit.

  • @sylinmino
    @sylinmino Před 2 lety +200

    Hey Watchfinder, something that should be noted about these MVMT watches (and what makes them such a ripoff) is that while their ads look sleek and nice, the watches fall apart in the details and you REALLY start to notice all the deficiencies when you get one in person. Sizing completely off from the style of the watch, super flat details, quartz modules that are obviously way too small for the case size, awful QC issues, subpar straps and bracelets, and so on. If these watches were $50 or less that'd be fine. But paying $150 and up on these? An absolute rip-off.

    • @saijinkai
      @saijinkai Před 2 lety +17

      These watches can be bought for less than $2 from China.

    • @pistonburner6448
      @pistonburner6448 Před 2 lety +16

      There are sub-150€/$ proper brand Swiss-made watches available, so paying $150 for MVMTs is ridiculous. I've bought excellent Wenger watches for my nieces and nephews which I've got on discount for even under €100 and list price under €150 (same in dollars).
      Wenger are reliable Swiss-made watches from the Victorinox-owned original Swiss army knife brand, made with really good quality control, worldwide 3 year warranty, service centres worldwide. You can even get automatic models from them for under $500.
      Casios and Seikos can be had for well under €100.
      I see no point in buying those Ali Baba Chinese fake marketing company watches...they're not good quality and on top of that they're not cheap! Especially if they have to be thrown in the trash after a few months.

    • @mitchmitchell9588
      @mitchmitchell9588 Před 2 lety +10

      But those videos of celebrity DJs, skaters and beautiful people in Hawaii...how could you not want to be down?!?!?! (Note: I'm being intentionally sarcastic to reflect the cynicism some of us experience during this period known as late-stage capitalism. No need to break it down further.)

    • @SonOvaSon
      @SonOvaSon Před 2 lety

      Affordable luxury comes at a price, friendo.

    • @sylinmino
      @sylinmino Před 2 lety +4

      @@SonOvaSon you're right! Affordable luxury comes at the price of both affordable and luxury lmao. And well, quality at all, really

  • @bigpops74
    @bigpops74 Před 2 lety +31

    I don't hate Hublot, I just wouldn't buy one, even if I could afford it. I don't hate MVMT either, I just don't pay any attention to them. They're just a fashion watch, like something you'd see Boss, or Armani stamped on.

  • @Andrewtimoni
    @Andrewtimoni Před 2 lety +28

    ‘Gateway Drug’ regarding MVMT is so true! Three years ago I bought a MVMT, Fossil, and Vincero. Today I have a Tudor Black Bay, Breitling Superocean, and Omega Seamaster.

  • @mwk9473
    @mwk9473 Před 2 lety +56

    I used to work at an AD of MVMT. I handled scores of them. Mostly while cleaning the display, because otherwise there was no reason to. While Daniel Wellington is way more badly made, MVMT "quality" don't fall far behind. I'd say one's better off just buying the cheapest watch at a petrol station store. Or at a Tesco.
    While Hublot and MVMT are light years apart in quality, they're just monuments to bad taste in their respective tiers.

  • @zunuf
    @zunuf Před 2 lety +35

    Around 10 years ago I got some fancy looking Invicta watch for maybe $100 because it was marked on sale from $700 on Amazon and I was a dumb kid. A few days after I got it the second hand came off.
    I took it to a watch repair shop and he told me it'd cost more to repair it than it's worth. I think he told me to look into Seiko watches. I was sad, but then I learned a lot more about watches and mechanical movements.

    • @diavalus
      @diavalus Před 2 lety +4

      It was a hard lesson, but on the long term, a good one. We’ve all been there.

    • @xynged
      @xynged Před 8 měsíci

      $100 is a pretty small price to pay for a life lesson like that

  • @sebi65490
    @sebi65490 Před 2 lety +47

    My first watch was a MVMT, one like in 4:24 but in black. I never really liked wearing it. But you are right: It’s a gateway drug. I’m glad to have discovered to world of „real“ watches now. And while still in the same-ish price category, I enjoy my current watches SO much more!

  • @julioerodriguez6097
    @julioerodriguez6097 Před 2 lety +36

    Agreed! Everybody start somewhere. Then why not start with a proper watch company like Seiko for less money? I never liked the MVMT business model. Getting cheap Chinese watches, re-branding them and marking up the price 200% for a subpar quality watch.

    • @SSJfraz
      @SSJfraz Před 2 lety

      They're not all bad. I've got a San Martin submariner homage and it's pretty damn good.

    • @diavalus
      @diavalus Před 2 lety +2

      @@SSJfraz so is a cheaper Orient, but the Orient has one more plus: is not a clear copy of the Sub.

    • @TIMETECH07
      @TIMETECH07 Před 2 lety +1

      My gateway watch is a Seiko, and its the best decision I have ever made so far

    • @buying_Time
      @buying_Time Před 2 lety

      Then again Seiko has so poor Quality Control these days I would steer clear of them, at least the old seiko5 line up. It is almost like if you are lucky you get a good one.

    • @TIMETECH07
      @TIMETECH07 Před 2 lety

      @@buying_Time mine has no issues with quality, probably lucky (SNKD99K1)

  • @tomw485
    @tomw485 Před 2 lety +57

    If you like the Hublot aesthetic consider the Zenith Defy. Similar aesthetic, lower price and excellent in house calibre movement. In fact the Defy El Primero 21 has one of the coolest chronograph movements period at any price point.

    • @karlsenula9495
      @karlsenula9495 Před 2 lety +2

      Plenty of 'steam punk' watches on Amazon and probably Aliexpress too.

    • @tomw485
      @tomw485 Před 2 lety +5

      @@karlsenula9495 Im talking about the skeletonized Big Bang and Fusion watches. Zenith Defy is similar but with a real movement from a real watch maker. If someone wants something like those stupid Ferrari engine things I don’t know what to tell them other than they have more money than sense.

    • @vipinsuriya007
      @vipinsuriya007 Před 2 lety +9

      Zenith and it’s movements are one of the most underrated stuff in luxury watch segment. I prefer chronomaster to Daytona . Defy collection is a great too.

    • @humblewiz4953
      @humblewiz4953 Před 2 lety

      @@tomw485 💯
      weird thing is that they both come under Lvmh

    • @jimmyjay122
      @jimmyjay122 Před 2 lety

      I can appreciate them both separately, but I see your point. I love the Defy 21. Generally, I like chronographs. 8 out of my 10 mechanical watches are chronographs. And I agree, the Defy 21 is in a league of it’s own. I hope to have one someday. I came so close a couple of times.
      Funny enough the Hublot that I’m currently interested in basically has an El Primero movement :)

  • @devams1
    @devams1 Před 9 měsíci +17

    I appreciate Hublot for doing something different. The watch industry isn't exactly big on trying new things and while Hublot is overpriced, at least they aren't releasing the same dive watch over and over again like most other brands do. When releasing the same watch but with a yellow dial is considered a mind blowing change, you know there's a certain level of stagnancy in the industry.

  • @finnandrei5745
    @finnandrei5745 Před 2 lety +48

    The very wrong thing these fashion watches is that they claim themselves to be luxurious and they charge a lot for a quartz movements that are priced very low. The quality control is also worse.

    • @DarrenBates
      @DarrenBates Před 2 lety +9

      Yep. They just have a bit more clever marketing.
      Infuriates me when I see people wearing Daniel Wellingtons, because it's just a complete waste of money.
      For the price of 1 (one) Daniel Wellington watch you can buy:
      Anywhere between 6 and 10 Casios in various styles to suit all purposes and fashions, or
      Maybe 2 Orient watches, with in house automatic calibres and sapphire crystals. Thinking maybe a Kamasu and a Bambino, or
      1 relatively high quality Swiss quartz watch such as the OG Tissot PRX.

    • @smashexentertainment676
      @smashexentertainment676 Před 2 lety +4

      Nearly all fashion and instagram watches are outsourced blanks from China 3-15 bucks a piece with zero original design. They just slap their brand on a dial and sell it for 1000%+. Most of fashion brands even buy same blanks with little to no modifications. If you look at aliexpress, you can often find exact copies with Chinese brand on a dial.
      And quality control ends at Chinese factory where they make 100 if not 1000 watches a day and take market by quantity, not quality. You can probably ask to replace your broken fashion watch 10 times for free and still be ripped off.
      At this point you'll be technically paying much less for a Rolex on a grey market.
      Kinda legal scam if you ask me.

    • @MrLogistician
      @MrLogistician Před 2 lety +1

      @@DarrenBates it's not even clever marketing; they're trying to copy Apple and are replacing Apple products with their crappy watches.

    • @lafireteamplx3400
      @lafireteamplx3400 Před 2 lety

      Grand Seiko charges thousands for a glorified quartz too

    • @adewgg6862
      @adewgg6862 Před 2 lety

      luxury is relative, some people like a hand crafted well made watch, while others like a brand and a fashion statement. While MVMT and Hublot are not my style i dont really hate them, and i dont really think that either interpretation of luxury is wrong.

  • @RockyBergen
    @RockyBergen Před 2 lety +2

    Love these long format back and forths!

  • @Jordandagostino
    @Jordandagostino Před 2 lety +11

    Invicta pro divers are fairly popular in the watch modding community some people have made some crazy modded watches from the base pro diver watch. The NH35a in it makes it a very good workhorse base to mod from

    • @acrspeed
      @acrspeed Před 2 lety +2

      And during certain sales, it's actually cheapest way to get an NH35. Cheaper even than buying the movement itself.

  • @Chris-pb3se
    @Chris-pb3se Před rokem +6

    I’m lucky enough to own several luxury brands( Omega, GS, Rolex). I just ordered the colored Bevis and Butthead watch in the middle of your vid. It’s definitely going dead center in my display case. I’m absolutely stoked. Thanks for bringing it to my attention

  • @NicholasOdinson
    @NicholasOdinson Před 2 lety +24

    Never thought I would hear Beavis and Butthead referenced on this channel.

    • @hellohello-dp6wg
      @hellohello-dp6wg Před 2 lety

      😅😅😅😅😅

    • @gman7940
      @gman7940 Před 2 lety +1

      He’s referenced a few things that similarly kinda surprised me. The narrations so professional sounding you almost forget that he’s a dude like you and I haha.

  • @thyscott6603
    @thyscott6603 Před 2 lety +1

    I'm hyped for Part 2. Please maybe please, upload the videos as podcasts. I mean you describe everything in such a fine detail.

  • @rainydaywatches6508
    @rainydaywatches6508 Před 2 lety +8

    LOL, this video opened with a Vincero ad! Anyway, how about Shinola? A defunct shoe polish manufacturer that was revived to make "Built in Detroit" watches that are built from Chinese cases and off the shelf Selita movements. The Federal Trade Commission even had to step in and take away their "Made in America" labeling, but I don't know if the new motto is any more honest.

  • @light1531
    @light1531 Před 2 lety +2

    You chose my favourite Hublot. Been to your stores and holding the watch in person, well that blue moonphase ‘pops’. Skeleton effect is great.

  • @ridetheapex
    @ridetheapex Před 2 lety

    6:47
    Recycle Reduce Re-use.
    That is the way I learned it back in elementary school in the first few years of the 90's.
    Funny how a simple phrase can stir up memories that old. Good times.

  • @201950201950
    @201950201950 Před 2 lety +5

    I would never buy something that's way overpriced just because it looks cool. Knowing that it's essentially a fashion watch for an extravagant price I wouldn't do that. I would buy used though and we all know how well Hublot holds their value.

  • @MaxVroomfondel
    @MaxVroomfondel Před 2 lety +5

    I want that black Beavis and Butthead Invicta.

    • @mitchmitchell9588
      @mitchmitchell9588 Před 2 lety +1

      @king kronos Me too!

    • @BabyJesus66
      @BabyJesus66 Před 2 lety +1

      The yellow one is better and I hate yellow. If it wasn't 3 feet wide I might consider really buying one. That is a fun watch and Mike Judge is a genius.

  • @enriqueborunda
    @enriqueborunda Před rokem

    What's your opinion on the HUBLOT Classic fusion black magic ceramic ? I love the simplicity of the watch but have no idea if it.s a good quality piece.

  • @davidhunternyc1
    @davidhunternyc1 Před 2 lety +1

    I wish you guys would make a feature length review of the Citizen 001 AQ6010-06A 18K White gold watch. Is it the greatest watch ever made or will it be an also ran?

  • @juleswild9498
    @juleswild9498 Před 2 lety +2

    I'm all with you about that we can do with more imagination part 👍🏼 However, I'd go for Rebellion's T-1000 😍 with its 40h and crazy design.

  • @markoon139
    @markoon139 Před 2 lety

    Great video! I wish you would have shown Hublot with their in house Unico or Meca 10 movement, because you know all the "watch enthusiasts" will complain about the basic movement in the classic fusion....

  • @lukerabin5079
    @lukerabin5079 Před 2 lety +7

    MVMT just seems like a US rave producers answer to department store watches, and Hublot looks like the arriviste insurance salespersons answer to the same thing. Both suffer from being just a little too ‘over wrought’, as such.

  • @karlsenula9495
    @karlsenula9495 Před 2 lety +1

    Are you sure about the lum on the MVMT recycled Ocean plastic watch? Have you had it in hand or just going by the advertising on their website? Lum is one of the things most often over promised and under applied?

  • @marceauratard6869
    @marceauratard6869 Před 2 lety +5

    I like some Hublots, they aren't afraid to take a risk and make crazy designs.

    • @Rubbernuts234
      @Rubbernuts234 Před 3 měsíci

      Which is cool and all but u wouldn’t buy a lambo with a 05 Honda engine wi 100k miles on it now would u??

  • @rajmehta6210
    @rajmehta6210 Před 2 lety +1

    Big bang unico 42m at 13k is great value
    In house chrono fly back at less than half the cost of the AP offshore

  • @sebastien6483
    @sebastien6483 Před 2 lety +3

    I hated Invicta until I realized that it was a gateway of sorts into an interest in watches. I wouldn't buy one but I appreciate that they started a conversation for many people that Apple would have been happy to end.

  • @WPman911
    @WPman911 Před 2 lety

    Interesting intro music, the start of The Marine’s hymn. 👍

  • @Mr986Willis
    @Mr986Willis Před 9 měsíci +1

    I use an Invicta Pro Diver. I work in construction I'm a crane operator and it lets me keep track of the time between gusts of wind. And at that price I'm not bothered if it gets broken.

  • @karlsenula9495
    @karlsenula9495 Před 2 lety +6

    Congratulations ... the commenters and community have booked you two on the Invicta cruise.
    Enjoy 😳

  • @fawncashew
    @fawncashew Před 2 lety +2

    I had completely forgotten about Kahuna watches mentioned at 4:40, I think i had one as my second ever watch (the first being a cartoon tie in baby's first watch). I think I still have it somewhere, still with original packaging. Coincidentally the watch I got after that was of the next brand you mentioned, Citizen. Lost that one in a car crash, and replaced it with my first proper watch.
    RE Hublot, I actually don't hate them,but that's mostly because I deserve almost all my watch related hate solely for Richard Mille haha

    • @alst4817
      @alst4817 Před rokem

      Remember kahuna too, I went for an “Animal” watch of a very similar type!

  • @artokujala
    @artokujala Před 2 lety +9

    That copying thing with Invicta is pretty tedius but having hundreds of hideous chuncks in all imaginable colours is straight up middle finger to someone who says ”you can’t wear a watch like that” and it’s fun as hell 😀

  • @MohammadAWaly
    @MohammadAWaly Před 2 lety +18

    Hublot have done great work with movements and materials, there’s a lot of creativity and dare i say, even value in their timepieces… would i buy one? Not if I’m looking for value appreciation like what’s found at Rolex, AP or Patek, but i would buy any of their special movement or material pieces… they have their own mix of Gold! Not even AP have that

    • @jonathanbroughton604
      @jonathanbroughton604 Před 2 lety +11

      So true. People act like Hublot makes crappy movements, but they have some of the most impressive movements in the luxury watch space.

    • @tomhurst8307
      @tomhurst8307 Před 2 lety +1

      @@jonathanbroughton604 such as?

    • @aniqanuar6320
      @aniqanuar6320 Před 2 lety +1

      @@tomhurst8307 the golf watch is pretty cool tbh

    • @tomhurst8307
      @tomhurst8307 Před 2 lety

      @@aniqanuar6320 golf is a waste of land that could be used for housing change my mind 😂

    • @seanlingham5254
      @seanlingham5254 Před 2 lety

      @@tomhurst8307 Unico Hub 1270. Perpetual calendar flyback chronograph with moonphase.

  • @karlsenula9495
    @karlsenula9495 Před 2 lety +17

    Well apparently not everyone hates them ... after all they do sell quite few watches.
    What helps them is excellent sales and marketing and pushback against the watch snobs of some other (particularly high end) brands. As well as understanding the zeitgeist of styles desired by many non-watch enthusiasts - what they want whether minimalistic or lots of flash.
    Invicta is the same way.

  • @DarrenBates
    @DarrenBates Před 2 lety +41

    "The whole thing will smell like strawberry vape" - I've never had a brand so accurately described that the olfactory sense just hit me. Invicta is a brand for vape bros.
    26 minutes of some of the ugliest watches known to man - but yes, each to their own.

    • @mitchmitchell9588
      @mitchmitchell9588 Před 2 lety +1

      @darren bates "olfactory sense just hit me." Well said!

    • @vincent67239
      @vincent67239 Před 2 lety +2

      Even the design of the vape devices are similarly gaudy, but not even in an expensive way. Like rainbow damascus and skulls and stuff.

    • @justinboudreau5266
      @justinboudreau5266 Před 2 lety +1

      Too bad Invicta actually makes woman’s mechanical divers. Other brand should. Shame.

  • @jojogpt
    @jojogpt Před 2 lety +3

    Not a fan of Hublot but I'll be damned if I ever put brands like MVMT, DW, etc in the same category as Hublot. I don't hate Hublot, it is a brand I am indifferent about in the watchmaking world. But as far as brands like MVMT go, I actively oppose them. I'd happily buy a barbie watch rather than an MVMT or DW.

  • @Nikolaj2702
    @Nikolaj2702 Před 2 lety +1

    I love these videos. Keep em coming

  • @piccalillipit9211
    @piccalillipit9211 Před 2 lety +2

    *IN 2005 I BOUGHT A "FOSSIL" WATCH* I had a Rolex Submariner but I was doing the PariDakar rally and didn't want to cross Africa in a Rolex
    Honestly is was a GREAT watch and I genuinely miss it, I maybe even miss it more than the Rolex and that not a joke. The Fossil cost me £50 and worked perfectly and I beat the sh!t out of it and it just kept working and serving me. The Submariner cost me £1,800 in 1990 and was genuinely a bit disappointing. Tinkley bracelet era of Rolex development.

  • @crzyruskie86
    @crzyruskie86 Před 2 lety +1

    I've always wanted a big bang with factory set diamonds. It's even better that everyone hates it because in this world we live in today that usually means you're winning.

  • @LaurentiusTriarius
    @LaurentiusTriarius Před rokem

    I'm really surprised they used a common Allen key for the winding solution on the Hublot LaFerrari. I would imagine they had a titanium center locking nut, waisted occasion...

  • @fransker13
    @fransker13 Před 2 lety

    When it comes to big gawdy watches, I have one: a g-shock mudmaster and boy do I love it ! Puts a smile on my face

  • @grumpyoldman2380
    @grumpyoldman2380 Před 2 lety +4

    Great video! Its a strange world we live in where Hublot can charge $10k+ for a watch with a Sellita movement and Invicta has watches that have Valjoux 7750 movements for less than $700 (used). Now who feels ridiculous?

    • @Out-Of-The-Box-AU
      @Out-Of-The-Box-AU Před 2 lety +1

      Look at IWC in house with modified Calhoun for their top gun collection ..also same price although they have longer history

  • @thetruebatman4632
    @thetruebatman4632 Před 2 lety +1

    I was not ready at all for the absolutely hilarious sound of such a smooth and well spoken British version of the word “fartknocker”.

  • @davew8841
    @davew8841 Před 2 lety

    I've never handled an MVMT...but, it does sound rather expensive for what you're getting. My gateway watches were Parnis GMT's....and they were a lot of watch for only $120AUD. Still are, I think. I doubt I'll ever wear them again...and they live in the cupboard, in their boxes. But, I respect them.

  • @Gaeb
    @Gaeb Před 2 lety +1

    I would love to know your thoughts on the brands Fossil and Filippo Loreti. I have examples from both companies and they seem to be decent enough for their price point but I am curious what a more knowledgeable person has to say. The first watch I ever purchased was a Fossil and I still love the way it looks now.

    • @longlivegarybusey6409
      @longlivegarybusey6409 Před 2 lety +5

      Fossil watches were also my first introduction into the world of watch collecting. They are great watches for the price. Internally they are generally very simple and low cost which isn't a bad thing since they still get the job done. For lack of a better comparison they are like the AK-47 of watches. Simple reliable mechanism, low cost materials, easy to produce in high quantities, minimal maintenance required, and used by people all over the world. It wouldn't make sense for even the most die hard gun collector to say that an AK is a "bad" gun just like Fossil watches are not "bad" watches. They're simply accessible and reliable tools. But because of this they aren't investments and don't cater to those who want high quality precision components. There's no rarity to them or high level craftsmanship required in their production. Just the other day I almost purchased an unused mint condition Fossil watch from the 90's that I had as a kid and it sold for a whopping $40+shipping. It had the original box, all the papers, protective plastic still on it, and still sold for less than it did 30 years ago. In hind sight whoever was selling that watch got absolutely nothing out of storing it and protecting it all those years. So it really depends on why you are buying a particular watch and what you hope to get out of owning it. Hope this helps.

    • @andrewkarsten5268
      @andrewkarsten5268 Před 2 lety +1

      If you want a tough watch that will last, one that you're going to wear, Fossil is the watch to get, in my opinion. They're cheap, and from my experience really stand up to abuse well. I've owned many Fossils, and my first one I got 10 years ago still runs today and is in my collection. I've done cement work, fallen on the pavement skateboarding, and many other things while wearing that watch, and it still runs great with a minor scratch (can't even see it unless you look for it) on the crystal. Point is, for the price, you'll be hard pressed to find such a sturdy watch, Sure, the design isn't as flashy or clean as other watches, but I'd rather have a sturdy watch than a flashy one. Not to say they don't look good, they do. Also, I just recently got a fossil mechanical watch, that's a skeleton design, and I'm in love with it. It's been running great, and just looks great. Not as accurate as a luxury chronometer, or a quartz, but that's what a cheap mechanical watch is going to get you.

  • @michaellau2544
    @michaellau2544 Před 2 lety +1

    I enjoyed that content. Surprised how good looking and interesting the Hublots are.

  • @BabyJesus66
    @BabyJesus66 Před 2 lety +4

    That Beavis and Butthead watch is 🔥 🔥 🔥

  • @fendigucci6307
    @fendigucci6307 Před rokem +2

    The £13k hublot watches movement is only worth £150 this definately corresponds to what archieluxury said about rolex and of other swiss watches only costing around £1000 to make.

  • @larce4158
    @larce4158 Před 2 lety +4

    I really love the more podcast-like episodes, but could you guys maybe add something in the title or the thumbnail to differentiate these videos from the regular in hand reviews? Keep up the great work guys!

  • @buying_Time
    @buying_Time Před 2 lety

    A Nice touch that you put them right beside eachother.

  • @melody3741
    @melody3741 Před rokem +1

    I'm actually very impressed on the ocean solar watch. It's new, it's interesting, it's pretty, if they keep this up they might actually get some respect.

  • @OscarRPalma
    @OscarRPalma Před 2 lety

    I agree with the dial and tinkering but a Sellitas as a movement? At that price they should offer some in-house, they are not even COSC.

  • @bigstretchdaddy
    @bigstretchdaddy Před 2 lety +1

    This was amazing! Bravo 👏! I laughed my arse off!! Bloody well done!!

  • @Adil-sm3yz
    @Adil-sm3yz Před 2 lety

    The bezel screws on Hublot watches really annoy me a HUGE amount (I hate that they're not aligned) but their use of materials is nice, their sapphire and ceramic pieces are interesting

  • @psyphi407
    @psyphi407 Před 2 lety +8

    I think Movado bought MVMT for a pretty good chunk of change. So love em or hate em, those guys won.

    • @saijinkai
      @saijinkai Před 2 lety +1

      If they are ok living for the rest of their lives by scamming people by telling people that Mvmt is as good as rolex Yada yada well go for it. But for some of us that reached the top with integrity we can sleep well at night

    • @karlsenula9495
      @karlsenula9495 Před 2 lety +3

      Probably worth the price they paid for the name recognition and marketing that has brought in thousands of young twenty somethings who probably weren't into watches before MVMT's marketing intrigued them and sold them in wearing a watch.
      Worth the brand loyalty of young up and comers instead of older 'well I made it' customers. Always good to think about the future.
      They can always improve the quality, manufacturing and pricing issues.

    • @garyboyle695
      @garyboyle695 Před 2 lety

      They did they paid tens of millions for it and sold Piaget to finance it. That tells you all you need to know.

  • @VintageInvicta
    @VintageInvicta Před 2 lety +1

    Hey! Greetings from an (vintage) Invicta collector

  • @antonluyt
    @antonluyt Před 2 lety

    I would love to know what you think of Steinhart.

  • @brendenhayes6099
    @brendenhayes6099 Před 2 lety

    Don’t know if I want to buy any of those Hublot’s, but I think now that I want one of those tactical black picnic baskets

  • @mikeuk4130
    @mikeuk4130 Před 2 lety +1

    The Kahuna has something of the Animal 90s styling about it.

  • @Peter_WongVI
    @Peter_WongVI Před 2 lety +1

    Again… love this series!

  • @MsKristy1001
    @MsKristy1001 Před rokem

    i hv 2 of them n honestly its pretty nice n i still wear it till this day.

  • @kfwimmer
    @kfwimmer Před 2 lety

    You guys are great! Whats the dirt on Junghans?

  • @karlsenula9495
    @karlsenula9495 Před 2 lety +15

    Other brands should seek to educate and invite in non-watch enthusiasts so they would understand pricing and details and high quality instead of just sticking up their noses at people who buy those brands.

  • @poupysoopy
    @poupysoopy Před 2 lety +4

    I own an invicta pro diver and it's still one of my favourite watches, i don't love the brand or that they make so many "homages". But for 90 euros it's a good watch to begin your collection with, its waterproof, has a pretty accurate movement, and wears nicely. This isn't a sales pitch and if you can I'd highly suggest buying a watch that has an original design, but if you're on a budget and want a diver, it's an option worth considering

  • @ghlibisk67
    @ghlibisk67 Před 2 lety

    As an outside can you answer me why Tag Heuer gets zero coverage/love from sites such as yourself or Hodinkee?

  • @omarnabilahmed3486
    @omarnabilahmed3486 Před 2 lety

    How do you feel about RMs?

  • @CyphrETH
    @CyphrETH Před 2 lety +2

    Love this format guys, keep it up!

  • @gregwoodin5630
    @gregwoodin5630 Před 2 lety +2

    Not sure if I’m over caffeinated but I was cracking up listening to this 😂

  • @nahidrahman
    @nahidrahman Před 2 lety +1

    10:28 don't the misaligned screwheads on the bezel and lugs annoy your ocd?

    • @timebyraf
      @timebyraf Před 2 lety +1

      Well, at least they are shown like real screws are - unaligned. The aligned „bolds“ on the Royal Oak for instance annoy me, because they just don’t make any sense.

  • @IbzRz
    @IbzRz Před 3 měsíci

    I used to wear a Kahuna watch i got from Argos to school, i still have it but the mineral crystals scratched and the battery is dead

  • @jayduval1034
    @jayduval1034 Před 2 lety +2

    For the love of God, can Hublot please get their screws aligned.

  • @jimf5160
    @jimf5160 Před 2 lety

    The only Hublot I like ...the LaFerrari watch...pretty amazing. The full sapphire case must have a high reject rate for such a piece.

  • @LeVraiMec1st
    @LeVraiMec1st Před rokem

    That is awesome about the plastic watch, nice casual and like he said actual intention and personality.

  • @ofmanynicknames
    @ofmanynicknames Před 2 lety +1

    If Invicta does a Daria spin-off of their Beavis and Butt-head watches I may be convinced.

  • @d.jacobush.7389
    @d.jacobush.7389 Před 2 lety +2

    There seems to be something with the audio, some microphone clipping perhaps? Anybody else experiencing the same?

  • @frankpentangeli7945
    @frankpentangeli7945 Před 2 lety +2

    Except for the fact that their watches are about three or four times more expensive than they should be, in my view there is no valid reason to hate Hublot. They make some fine product. Richard Mille, on the other hand ...

  • @rakin4873
    @rakin4873 Před 2 lety +2

    "i get a bit of a fyre festival vibe from them" hahahah

  • @airsonurram189
    @airsonurram189 Před 2 lety

    Just as a bit on nit-picky aside, carbon fibre is specifically the woven stuff that was compared to a picnic basket (in my opinion, it can be done well, it just tends to look a bit tacky in the way it tends to be used), the stuff that you liked is called forged carbon, which is made in a different way.
    Not trying to be obnoxious, just trying to inform, if anyone is interested in these materials like I am

  • @nickthompson1091
    @nickthompson1091 Před 2 lety

    Great commentary! I was laughing all the way through haha

  • @euklid2229
    @euklid2229 Před 2 lety +1

    Wonderful vid

  • @vktravellog1242
    @vktravellog1242 Před 2 lety +1

    If I see a lot of misspellings this leaves me an impression that they are not detailed oriented and lack quality. I am a very picky consumer and if I see these type of things I no longer trust the brand. Company culture is very important and when I see lack of attention to details then usually this means there are corners that are being cut which impacts quality!

    • @skzion2
      @skzion2 Před 2 lety

      ... which is especially relevant for watches, which by their nature are all about details (like the mastery of detail that is required for accurate measurement of time).

  • @jrock5830
    @jrock5830 Před 2 lety +3

    Weird, I got into buying “respectable” brands after buying a couple fake Hublot’s. Bloody comfortable, they look accurate, had an ETA that kept the time just fine… I thought it looked and felt awesome. Unfortunately, the bug then hit me. Now I can’t really wear it… mainly knowing those are fake, and the Hublot hate hasn’t helped.

    • @notgray88
      @notgray88 Před rokem +1

      I will take those terrible fakes off your hands for a few bucks XD

    • @Mr_Paw_revised
      @Mr_Paw_revised Před 4 měsíci

      A fake with an ETA inside? Really?

  • @tmf866
    @tmf866 Před 2 lety

    The Invicta boutique in Times Square, which you show in a photo, *always* has an offer like "buy two get one free" on the video display sign above the door. Inside they try to look all cool and suave, but even before walking in one thinks "if they're that good, why are they offering that deal?" And yes, other than the blatant ripoff designs they seem to try to focus on big, chunky, gaudy watches for the set of people who want a big, chunky, gaudy watch. (My ex boss really wanted one of those. Fortunately the one he was wearing to work was on the smaller end of big and not particularly chunky and not very gaudy and I liked it and that got me into watches. It inspired me to buy one that was less chunky and less gaudy. It is big though.)

  • @capt.proton5041
    @capt.proton5041 Před 2 lety

    have you folks reviewed Titan Edge Mechanical

  • @esiu74
    @esiu74 Před 2 lety +1

    Why People HATE Hublot (and MVMT)
    Invicta: phew…

  • @scottlawton9459
    @scottlawton9459 Před 2 lety +1

    The irony of these fashion brands is that there are companies like Sugess, Seiko and others that make awesome watches for a fair bit about the price of these watches.

  • @nunocolon
    @nunocolon Před 2 lety

    I really like your points about hublot.

  • @ICYMIKE
    @ICYMIKE Před 2 lety +2

    Invicta Cruise is hilarious, and fantastic at the same time.

  • @markbrisec3972
    @markbrisec3972 Před 2 lety

    Funny thing.. The guys mentioning Diesel watches reminded me that I was a huge fan.. I wore them from when I was about 15 to about 25 (2 or 3 models). And I remember thinking how boring Rolex Submariner looks compared to my Diesel watch... Oh tempora, o mores..
    Not that I'm a huge watch geek now, or at least a collectioner, given my meager income... Well, my SKX007 still ticks away and looking good as the day I bought it.

  • @planetdee3587
    @planetdee3587 Před 8 měsíci

    I really like what Invicta represents. The brand is not for me though i do owm a Pro Diver as a beater watch for work use as it is the best value of all watches period. But i love the brand because they know who they make watches for and their audience really loves them.

  • @stevefox8605
    @stevefox8605 Před 2 lety +1

    Dislike Hublot because they're Gentaesque & I really don't like his later designs or stuff inspired by them. Emperor's New clothes imho...quite like the Ferrari one, just coz it's mental.
    Great show as always thank you Gentlemen 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @grandmasterglick5895
    @grandmasterglick5895 Před 2 lety +1

    I have the Bevis and Butthead #1, it's kind of one of my secret sleeper grails. It's so bad that it crosses the line into awesome