Raspberry Pi 5 Argon NEO 5 NVMe Case
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- Raspberry Pi 5 Argon NEO 5 M.2 NVMe case review and demo, including assembly, setup, NVMe SSD speed test, and temperature tests.
There is more information on the Argon NEO 5 NVMe on its web page here: argon40.com/en-gb/products/ar...
My previous video on the Pineberry Pi HatDrive! is here:
• Raspberry Pi 5 M.2 Hat...
And my Raspberry Pi 5 cooling tests video is here:
• Raspberry Pi 5 Cooling...
All of my Raspberry Pi videos are also listed on this page:
www.explainingcomputers.com/r...
More videos on computing and related topics can be found at:
/ @explainingcomputers
You may also like my ExplainingTheFuture channel at: / @explainingthefuture
Chapters:
00:45 Unboxing
03:10 Assembly
10:45 NVMe Setup & Speed Test
13:07 Temperature Tests
14:45 The Ultimate Pi 5 Case?
#ArgonNEO5 #NVMe #RaspberryPi5 #ExplainingComputers - Věda a technologie
It is a very welcome experience to watch your videos every week. No over-hyping of products, no flashy effects to gain attention, no click-bait thumbnails, just facts presented in a calm and educational way. One of the tech CZcamsrs who truly understands what he is talking about. Thank you very much indeed.
Thanks for watching. :)
Plus he makes me smile with just his low key humor. ~There must be lots of screwdrivers called Philip~ tee hee hee. It's the type of jollity you get down the pub after the first couple of beers🤣😂🤣😂
@@ExplainingComputers - best not to induce us to open a 'Thanks' comment, Chris. It all takes time. The heart is enough.
No politics either. Not many places we can go without being turned against each other by politics. This is one of a tiny few.
@@biopsiesbeanieboos55yeah I used to like transport evolved at one point they said if you don't like us mentioning that American judge that died go f your self I'm like I'm here for electric cars stop gas lighting us
One of the biggest reasons I don't delete the CZcams app from my phone is this wholesome man.
I despise 99% of youtubers but this guy is one of the 1% that I enjoy listening to. Never change how you operate the channel, it's perfect!
"Easy to write in the manual,difficult to do in the real world". No more profoundly true statement has ever been uttered in the PC building world.
I worked as an electrical and avionics mechanic for 30 years. I can tell you that it's not just the PC world.
Hear hear!
It's not Sunday until Christopher sir uploads.
Thanks sir, you're one of the few creators I love to watch.
He is the sort of person that should be knighted. Instead, the sort of trash you find these days in the form of self serving, career politicians and people who donate to political parties, get a gong.
@@suminshizzles6951 exactly corruption is everywhere, people who support political parties and give money to them climbs the stairs of success quickly.
I have always said that every Sunday morning is Christmas morning because of Christopher's video releases!!!
@@rv6amark Here it's Sunday Evening!
Cup of tea + Christopher's video
Happy Easter, everyone! 🐇
Happy Easter, laddie.
@@MachtNixPasstSo Thanks. Hope yours is going well. :3
Happy Easter.
A Happy Easter to you & everyone else on here :)
@@schitlipz Thanks!
Some unknown person or persons put a lot of thought into that design. And then had it manufactured and available to buy. That's a lot of hard work. And that tiny little fan, amazing. Great video Chris!
I agree -- some excellent design effort here.
A video full of excitement. We had it all, from a tense unboxing to a challenging assembly. A new character introduced as well. A vintage EC upload!
Laughter, tears, character arc and room for a sequel. Bravo.
So very true. And Stanley came to the rescue!
I have to admit though, if it were me doing the unboxing, there may be a few words uttered under my breath that would need to be edited out.😁
@@dang48 Mr Barnatt always confines himself to "Come out of there, you swine!" as the ultimate curse.
Good morning, gentlemen. Happy Easter to all.
Nom nom
Happy Easter! I woud say the Argon Neo5 case is the first case that I have seen that makes the Raspberry PI 5 a compelling concept to build and use. It has nice cooling and ig buttons up all the components in a nice, tidy package that would be nice to add to the stack of gear on my desk that runs all of my operations. Although, the PI5 is a bit of overkill for the Pi-Hole/DNS Server that my current Raspberry PI functions.
Having the labels for the GPIO pins is nice. I always end up having to look online the find a ground pin. And I, of course, immediately forget it again.
One small thing… when measuring air cooling, it’s important to take into account the ambient (room) temperature because it’s directly related to the result. Cooling efficiency is about how close to ambient the temperature reaches, not just to what absolute temperature it gets. For example, in a room with say a 10 degree higher temperature, it’ll be cooled to 10 degrees higher.
That said, appreciate the video as always, nice job, thanks.
Nicely done as usual! We've come of the age where you can use the Pi for a 'daily driver' and work on it. My dream from the 80s when I had 8 bit machines...
Still thrilled to see "1M subscribers" - Love it!
Me too! It's still unbelievable how EC has a million subscribers now. :)
Me too! There should be a Gold Play Button unboxing fairly soon now.
@@ExplainingComputersI look forward to that. You deserve to take a victory lap.
Argon cases are a cut above other RPI cases. I've owned a couple for several years now - original and the one with the m.2 SATA 'basement extension' (I purchased a second extension to upgrade the original.) and have been very pleased with them. They ARE a bit expensive, but they solve the problem of having to use micro hdmi cables, and aren't especially any more expansive than a good case with an SSD hat. They did still required the USB jumper to connect the 'basement extension'. The NEO looks like a total solution designed from the ground up to take advantage of current technology, and at about the same price. We win!
It shows really well how the new connectors on the Pi 5 allowed better modification through PCI express and fan connectors, the case is really nifty and small. The video is delightful as always!
Thanks Chris for your information video! Great to see Stanley the Knife and Mr Philips and No-name screwdrivers getting some action and recognition 😊!
Happy Easter and have a great week!
Magneto of the X-Men's real name is Max Eisenhart, although he uses the assumed name of Erik Lehnsherr in the movies. Maybe our magnetic screwdriver needs an assumed name to hide its identity.
@@lawrenceallwright7041Guarding the lore! Salutable!
Christopher, I'm reading your book "Digital Genesis" : it really is a good book and you are right on point. You got it right. I tend to agree similar with you: at some point they will figure how to get the experience / image right into the head (through the optic nerves?). Your book is a wealth of knowledge and could easily compliment the shelves of someone studying computer science at university and needed some history / broad view. All said, worthy for everyone who wants to understand what is going on. I would encourage you to rework it for 2024, like a text book gets updated.
Thanks for your positive feedback. :) For others, you can download the sampler here: www.explainingcomputers.com/genesis.html
I literally just ordered one of these the other day. Your video is just making more excited for it’s arrival 😊
When there are SSD card reader extension cables available I think Argon miss a chance to make their cases really stand out by not incorporating access to the SD card reader along with all the other ports.
I think the only way is to move the hat on top. That could be tricky to do in order for the cpu cooler to be effective. I think its a design flaw of the board itself, but I'm sure in time there will be some cases for your specific situation.
Argon makes great stuff for the pi ecosystem. I almost wish this case was available when I bought my Geekworm case. But I need the mounting options that the geekworm provides and my case IS all aluminum and wall mountable. Both are winners and both have great NVME solutions.
I can't say enough about the pi5 performance with an MVME drive. This thing boots way faster than any Windows box, and everything is so snappy!
I was waiting to see YOUR opinion and tests to finalize my purchase ...Your opinion REALLY matters to me dear Chris.. Argon is, up to now, very consisted with their Raspberry cases.. I still use the older version with my Raspberry 4 for quite some time (some years i could say..) and i' m very pleased with them.. So .. I do thank you for this video.. As always you are "spot on"... Happy Easter Christopher and all viewers..
Another awesome video that cost me money :) Thank you for testing this case. Based on your other videos I have the nvme hat and bottom but I don't like either of them as far as looks, this case fixes that for both of them. Now I have some spare nvme boards :) Keep up the great work and thank you for this channel.
Hello Chris, happy Easter!
I'am using this case for a few weeks now. Initially, I used a Kingston KC3000 SSD (512GB PCIe 4.0, with DRAM cache), which reached temperatures of around 62°C. I then switched to a WD SN570 (1TB, without DRAM cache), and it now operates at a much cooler temperature of around 40°C. I'm running Home Assistant on this Raspberry Pi, and it's possible that the frequent writing causes a lot of data transfer from the DRAM to the flash memory. I'm not entirely sure, but it could be related to the Home Assistant OS.
Happy Easter everyone and congrats on 1M subs Chris!!
Happy Easter from Canada. Another enjoyable and very informative video and great easy to follow format.
The system's cooling performance is very, very impressive! ARGON enclosures remain my favorite; I use two of them routinely, the first as an OMV RPi 4 manager and the second with an RPi Zero 2 W (with an Ethernet extension) for tinkering. Thanks for the excellent presentation!
We're all learning here, MMM. What's an OMV?
Any tinkering you can cite that might interest us?
@@ardwych4881OMV is for "Open Media Vault" an opensource NAS application. I "thinker" with DietPi... Just take a look!
@@ardwych4881 It's a rabbit hole to casuals like me who just want to get a cross platform media server working on a low power, low maintenance, media server, without having to pay a subscription fee.
@@ardwych4881 OMV is is a program that offers you your media over your network.
@@ardwych4881 Back in the day, about 30 years ago, we shared media by handing it to each other. Eventually the internet caught up, and it has become more convenient to just host it. Or better post it, to a hoster, so you don't get done for sharing.
Thanks Chris. Happy Easter.
I love the little Pi's, and the awesome cases you find, but I just can't find a use for them that is not addressed better even by a used mini pc like the HP G2 you reviewed last year. A very entertaining and educational video regardless, thank you :)
Nice close-ups, much appreciated!
I had just ordered the active fan because of the previous video it seemed like an interesting choice especially for loads that are not constantly high, in my case a simple Home Assistant configuration, I open CZcams and this new video just published appears. I was able to cancel the order, thanks, great case and great video!
Pretty good value proposition. NVMe adapter AND top notch cooling. Good video!
Happy Easter Mr Barnatt. an excellent Case for Raspberry pi 5
This case is exactly what I need. Thanks for the detailed review.
A 'case of pure joy'. I concur. This is a very COoL little case. My only dismay is for these ultra TINY fans that seem to fail years ahead of schedule. As we know, the longevity of these items is just not in the cards. Mfg should really allow folks to purchase additional fans (a dozen at a time?). The chances of finding that specific-fit fan is larger than the gap between my eyes (sorry for that visual). I'd buy it if I could be assured I could purchase replacement fans. Just saying. Thank you for the InfoTainment once again. I'm almost your biggest fan
Happy Easter all congrats on your million subscribers professor Chris have a great day.
If all else fails read the instructions! 😊 !
Excellent video, as always, Chris. I'm using the Argon 40 Neo case for my RPi 4, and it has been a very impressive bit of kit. I have been looking at the Neo5 for an upcoming RPi 5 purcahse, and this confirms my thoughts that this would also be an equally good product. The only problem may be actually finding a Neo 5 in stock!
This is yet another brilliant video from you mister. I really appreciate your counsel.
I was going to hold off until RPi would intro their own enclosure with NVME support. This case looks so slick, you persuaded me to jump the gun and get this together with a new RPi 5. Thanks so much!
Good luck with it -- I doubt that Raspberry Pi will make anything better than this.
@@ExplainingComputers - a version with USB-C sockets, I hope.
It's good to see that Stanley is looking no worse for wear, but still has all the "utility" that he had in his younger years. 👍
Bonus points for the case as they did a great job of labeling the IO pins and other connectors.
Happy Easter, Chris!
Always good to see an appearance from Phillip the Screwdriver.
Fascinating. Product design is a somewhat underappreciated field of endeavor, but a truly good product design can make quite a difference to a finished product. Thanks for sharing this with us.
Happy Easter Chris. Have a nice day and let the Easter Bunny in the garden.
He is risen!.He is risen indeed.!
The Argon cases are always well designed.
With a small side issue regarding the accessibility of the SD Card slot.
@@apveening Some of that was RasPi design problem, but Argon probably could have extended it to the bottom layer to sit next to the SSD.
I recently bought a raspberry pi 5 and I am gonna buy the case. Thank you for guiding😁
Good luck with it. :)
Excellent test, you convinced me to buy this case which seems very efficient.
got this case and its really good quality, well worth the money!
Happy Easter Chris. Good video and a nice looking product. Fiddly though. It shouldn't be beyond the wit to change things up.
Have fun
It's a nice case. I like how it looks without the cover too. 👌
Regarding the black ribbon cable. It was fully latched on one side, but not on the other, as per 7:54 of the video. Very nice case, nicely thought out.
Hello :)
I bought a unit and it works really well, thanks for the information, it helped me to decide.
Just comment that the lack of access to micro sd is the only criticism I could make,
Again, thank you.
Thanks !! Full of details and exactly what I needed !! 👌🏻
Greetings from across the pond near Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA. Thanks for another great video!
Thanks for your support, most appreciated. :)
Hi Chris, an excellent video again as usual, I wouldn't expect anything less form such a dedicated professional as yourself. Just one little thing, it may not have made any difference at all but it didn't look as though the ribbon cable clip was completely secure at time stamp 7.53, the bottom clip didn't seem to be fully pushed home, Neil.
Nice case and the Pi 5 is a great SBC! Thanks for the video Chris.
Very nice case. Love the hardware stuff. Thanks for another great video Chris. 😎👍
No problem 👍
great review as always :)
i have the argone case for the pi 4 that adds the nvme drive.....awesome case but same prob with the sd card slot. With this case tho they could have put an adaptor inside the case so the sd card slides in the bottom like the hd does. I think i saw another review about their nvme pi case that looks like the pi 4 case but it has a dac add on board. I was thinking about that 1.
Also i forgot to mention...I get where you are coming from about the price for the case and pi etc.....that most ppl just think of the price......for me pi's are not just about price...its the versatility and the giant community......that part is priceless. I am so glad that we finally have a pi thats fast enough to actually use a pc.
Happy Easter oh nice a raspberry Pi 5 video and it's about case nice have a nice day .
Thank you, Chris. Argon makes great gear.
Happy Easter, everyone
I have the Pi 5 booting MX 23 Linux from a SSD drive connected via USB and the non NVMe Argon 5 case that I am very pleased with.
I think I would have got this case if it had been available at the time, it's a very nice little system, and it has advantages over a mini computer for that reason.
Thanks for the great video Chris.
Greetings Susan.
An excellent review of what seems to be a really good Pi5 case.
Im using this case with a Patriot 310 nvme drive and I find its a much better case than the official one. Its a bit fidly to put together but worth the effort.
A "cool" fidgety case! Looking forward to your next video!
There is some ducting of the airflow of the neo 5 that notably reduces the air recirculation I did with some kapton tape that I need to document because it measurably reduced temperatures.
Happy Easter everyone
Working in a Holiday, Sir?!
You ARE a Trooper! Lol
Cheers! - Judson & Buddy! - "Happy Easter", Super Nerds. Lol :-)
Greetings both. :)
I've been running a Pi 5 in this case for a month now and am very pleased with it. I'm glad it wasn't just me that found installing the fan cable as fiddly.
As you pointed out there's no access to the SD card slot so that means you can't boot from another O/S unless you remove the SSD then you can boot from a USB drive. I hope they update the eeprom to give an option, if possible, so you can boot from the USB over the NVME if one is plugged in giving you the possibility of booting from a different O/S when required.
Congratulations on the first million subscribers
Thank you so much 😀
Reminds me of the instructions that used to read "Some assembly may be required".
Very much so!
a very nice video as always a fantastic weekend enjoyment and learning opportunity. Great job and thanks for all your hard efforts
Thanks for the info 'see you soon'!
Given how fast and efficient it is, your screw driver deserves a name of its own.
That does look good. I've not had the chance to even setup my pi5 with a m.2 NVMe drive system I've purchased - and you give me another option! I'm not complaining (well my wallet is) but thanks Chris.
Can’t go wrong with Argon 40 cases.
Thank you, brilliant and clear
Argon products are high quality,
BTW, I thought the screwdriver name was Michael!
Thanks Chris!
You are correct -- I forgot the screwdriver's real name! My bad. :(
A promising product. I do wish there were more options for truly fanlass operation.
I'd love to see you test a Flirc case for the Pi5 as it's passively cooled. I don't think they have one that accomodates an NVMe yet, but hopefully they will in the future.
Thank you for a good video. Are gone show where to route the 2 camera cables? Have a Happy Easter! God Bless.
Thank you Chris for an interesting video, I'm glad you filmed this on the yellow background I find it more restful on the eyes. It looks like quite an interesting case & doesn't seem too expensive. It came with a good set of instructions but it doesn't mention when you get to the bit fiddly bits, arghh pulling your hair out, come on you little sw--e get in there. It had an impressive set of temperature results. Take care kind regards Alan :)
Yes the yellow is very nice indeed
I drilled holes in the top of my Pi 4 NEO case above the fan, temps and noise was lower, i do prefer the magnetic top than the 2 screws on this new version
Wonderful video! I love Argon cases...I've been using one on my 4b for a while now. Christopher - do you have a link to that awesome all-black magnetic screwdriver you show in your video? Thank you for an enjoyable Sunday morning video once again!
Enjoyed seeing Philip the Screwdriver. It's nice to see Philip being used even as a prop. Was disappointed that a magentic version of Philip substituted in later. That said, it's always a pleasure to see a CZcams video without a LTT screwdriver🙂
LTT ?
@@ardwych4881 Linus Tech Tips.
Excellent video, thank you. If the Argon design team is watching I would like to suggest a Plus model with an SD card extender.
This must be the best case for the Pi5! I wish it came out earlier as I already have my Pi5 in a case with an Nvme m.2 hat that cost about the same. It looks kind of janky though. 😅 This Argon case looks sleek and those are some great temps!
With how much a Pi5 is currently, I'll most likely get a more powerful mini-PC than get another Pi5.😔
Happy easter chris sir❤❤
Surely I'm not the only one who was a bit taken aback about 1:57 or so, hearing Chris getting frustrated with the unboxing and saying "Out, you c*nt!" I had my wife listen, and she heard "Out you come", which seems *way* more likely on this channel, but that's not how I heard it.
That is an impressive case. Idk, maybe if I get a second pi5 I'll get that, but my black aluminum case with fan seems to do a very good job. All in all, I'm quite happy with the performance of the pi5 (8GB), and have been doing *most* of my desktop work on it, with my old desktop reserved for a few things that use too much memory or just didn't run well for one reason or another. For the price, it's fantastic. The first home computer I used was a TRS-80 Model 3. Or was it III? Three, anyway. I've spent a career mostly using engineering workstations, doing software development primarily with a CAD system, and have seen plenty of computers costing more than 100 times as much but with nowhere near the performance. We used to start a "make" and go take a coffee break. To render a scene, it was better to kick it off just before lunch. And best of all, with channels like this, the SBC revolution *is* televised!
Yeah I absolutely agree with the perspective that this combo might already cost more than some mini PCs. The entire RPI ecosystem has become almost Apple-like these days - well integrated but way overpriced, the difference being in RPI's case it's less malicious.
I saw someone else's comment that says RPI has better modularity, and therefore is easier to repair in case of failure. But honestly, the low cost and low failure rate of these things are such that you are very likely to want an upgrade anyway if something breaks, which kind of voids the repairability argument.
Wow, a very impressive case indeed!
Greetings Chris.
Thanks, very useful.
Great case and great video. And at 7:54 was that connector really fully secured? I hope so!
Always glad to see a new video
I managed to get an Argon ONE V3 M.2 NVMe PCIE case, which does all theat the NEO does but adds full size hdmi & audio. Also has excellent build quality. BUT like the NEO the SD Card reader is not accessible so installing an OS to the NVMe is difficult. The easiest is if you already have (as Chris does) an NVMe / USB adaptor / case. The instructions provided weren't very helpful in this area. Also if the RPi5 could be programmed to boot from usb prior to the NVMe, that would be helpful if you want to change the OS on the NVMe.
My favorite aspect of the Argon ONE cases is that all connections are on the back side. And yes, the lack of accessibility of the SD Card slot is a distinct disadvantage of the M.2 cases.
This looks like a good option with a reasonable price. I think I will pick one up.
I liked the nod to the ZX Spectrum.
...power supply. 🙂
@@ardwych4881 Congratulations. You've won.
I saw this on my Downunder Pi supplier webpage today. Was curious if it was any good. I am impressed, will help keep things cool when running LLM's.
Thank you. Would love to know the impact the case has on WiFi signal strength.
Hello Chris, happy Easter Everyone!
The only thing i dont like is the lack of thermal pads on the memory / RP1 Chip. Might help with thermals having a pad on them possibly as a follow up.