Raspberry Pi 5: Video Editing, Video Calling & Passive Cooling
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- čas přidán 18. 06. 2024
- Raspberry Pi 5 tests, including video editing in Kdenlive, an HD video call in Microsoft Teams, and passive cooling experiments. Note that this video was edited on a Raspberry Pi 5. :)
Thanks to Kevin McAleer for his assistance with the Teams call. You can visit Kevin’s channel here: / @kevinmcaleer28
My initial Raspberry Pi 5 review and demo video is here:
• Raspberry Pi 5
Kevin’s Pi interview with Eben Upton is here:
• Eben Upton on the new ...
And Kevin’s Pi 5 interview with myself is here:
• Chris Barnatt on the n...
KDENLIVE EDIT & RENDER TIME
This video was edited in Kdenlive on a Raspberry Pi 5, which took 22 minutes and 13 seconds to render the final 20 minute 8 second output. This was far less time than I anticipated for two reasons. Firstly, my earlier test (which we saw in the video) had transitions as a far higher proportion of its total running time, and transitions take much longer to output. Secondly, Kdenlive seems to pause to do something at the start of a render, and the longer the video to be output, the shorter a proportion of the final render time this is. And so my initial estimate of just under an hour for rendering this video was way off.
In case you are wondering, I did repeat my initial “standard” Kdenlive render test on the Pi 5 many times, and with lots of different settings -- and it always came out at 2 minutes 8 seconds, give or take a second.
In the final edit, note that my opening and closing shots to camera were composited in Adobe After Effects on an i7 PC as they always are, and then put into Kdenlive on the Pi 5. The timelapse segments (eg in the cooling tests) were edited as distinct sub-edits, again as is my standard practice, but here in Kdenlive on the Pi 5.
KDENLIVE DESKTOP SHORTCUT
The icon I added to the desktop to launch Kdenlive using XWayland (so that it will work with the latest version of Raspberry Pi OS), was a link to a Bash script that contained the following two lines:
#!/bin/bash
QT_QPA_PLATFORM=xcb kdenlive
The above script was created in Geany, and saved in the “Desktop” folder. Then, in the properties for the shortcut on the desktop (opened via a right click), it was set to “Open with Terminal”. You can call the Bash script anything you like. But I called it Kdenlive XWayland.
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Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
01:01 Pi 5 Kdenlive
06:55 Pi Teams (MS Teams video call test)
12:21 Passive Cooling
18:57 Wrap
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Thanks Chris for saving me from grim tv news for 20 min
Greetings fellow Christopher!
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What 😂
I don't get it
20? Much more!
Too bad the Orange Pi 5 will never have the community support and tons of cool mods. Meanwhile, we are most likely stuck with the Pi 5 for a while.
Great video Chris! Was honoured to be the second only guest!
Thanks for being on the show Kevin. :) It worked! :)
This is really an incredible result for such a small form factor. I've decided to see where this leads in the next couple years. I might just be upgrading my pc to one of these! Great video, Chris.
I wouldn't use a SBC as a primary computer. Yes, you can. But it's always fun as a tinkering machine.
For what a Pi costs you can get a solid refurbished thin client that will absolutely trounce it in performance. I picked up an I-7 desktop variant with 32G Ram and 1 TB SSD for $250. Pi's need to be $35 again to be competitive
@@schrodingersmechanic7622 Yeah, It's cool that they're fairly powerful nowdays, but I'm also really worried that they're indeed going for desktop performace. That's not what rpi's are. Imo they're for tinkering with electronics, doing some thing in homenetworks like Octoprint etc. anything else but to run fully fledged desktop UI's. Pricing is running out of hands.
I still see Raspberry Pi as a hobby platform. If you want a cheap desktop replacement, you're better off getting a mini PC. I recently got a KAMRUI with a Ryzen 5 that has AMD Vega graphics built-in for under $250. It handles all the emulators I throw at it too, tested up to original Wii.
Geekbench: Raspberry Pi 5 Model B Rev 1.0 - 603 single-core score, 1608 multi-core score
KAMRUI Ryzen 5 - 1527 single-core score, 6104 multi-core score
I can not imagine the amount of time an energy that has gone to this video. Excellent job.
It's nice to see you having fun testing a new Pi Chris. I'm impressed with the efficiency of the official Heatsink/Fan which is what I've ordered with mine. The results of your tests are interesting, and it's nice to see that it is capable of video editing in a very reasonable time for it's size and capabilities. The video calling worked well too. Thanks for all of your efforts on our behalf, I look forward to seeing how things develop before the official release date. Best wishes until the next video 😃
Appreciate your testing of passive coolers, the results look promising
I love your videos, genuine real world usage and the calm and descriptivo tone you use is amazing!
Thanks for another great video, Chris! The early tests at passive cooling looks really promising. I look forward to when you install an m.2 nvme drive!
What a treat! I hope other CZcams viewers like this video as much as I do. I hope to see some sort of experiment using two cameras on the Pi 5! Looking forward to your next video.
The RPi 5 is looking very impressive. Good to see such quality progress (and excellent testing procedures, as usual 🙂). Thanks for another great video.
I am happy to see this. I've been trying to buy a Pi4 for nearly a year after my Pi3 failed. I may skip to the Pi5 if it is available locally soon. Pi4s are only now appearing online locally for purchase.
Also, I'm happy to see that this version is able to work well as a general purpose computer, even if may never be required to do so by most users. As you have shown earlier refurbished x64 computers can do more for less, but the Pi is and will continue to be perfect for other specialised purposes.
Thanks again for another demo.
I missed the temperature tests too, and I miss Pi coding/projects as well.
I watched the interview Kevin did with you, and Kevin is a gentleman no wonder you Pi call him today.
Thanks Chris!
I recently used a pi 4 for an online lesson with my college using teams, it actually worked surprisingly well, great video as usual
Another great video Chris… thanks for more tests on the RPi 5. Looking good. Can’t wait for mine to arrive, so I can give it a go.
I can only applaud that RPI came up with a small form factor/low clearance cooling solution that, although active, isn't loud or annoying. Great video, Chris! I hope you'll run the test again when you have a case, would be interesting to see how the official cooling solution does within the RPI's case.
Looks like that little Pi did a good job at handling video editing and rendering, video calling, and keeping cool. Okay, well, it wouldn't be fair to the coolers and fans used if we didn't give them credit for their work too.
You're doing a great job yourself at showing just how good the upcoming Raspberry Pi can run. Also, it was good to see Kevin! I should really consider watching more of his stuff.
Now for the real test: to see if it'll run a game. Muahahahahahaha... >:)
You've been watching Jeff threatening the Pi with a massive GPU in the hope that he can run it through the pcie slot, I hope that you're keeping OK too :)
@@alanthornton3530 No, I haven't! I will have to give that a watch at some point.
As for how I'm doing, I haven't been doing too great mentally for a while but, well, I'm alive, surviving, and doing alright for now so there's that!
@@Praxibetel-Ix Sorry to hear that take care!
@@alanthornton3530 Thank you. I'm doing my very best with self-care!
He truly is the Master. He's one the hardest working CZcamsrs on the platform.
Thank you very much Mr. C.B.! Impressive insight about the Raspberry Pi 5. Indeed, it truly seems like a step forward in terms of price vs performance for the Raspberry Pi.
Amazing content as always!
Excellent showcase; end-to-end results are incredible.
Wonderful video, as usual.
Another Excellent Video. I greatly appreciate your attention to detail as well as the information provided. I'm excited to see Raspberry Pis now being sold approaching normal pricing especially considering the inflation from when they were last easily available.
Excited for this one. Hoping yo pick one up
Gotta love the smell of warm electronics in the morning.
It is a smell that can strangely bring on a feeling of both confidence and alarm. :)
Very impressive for the 5! Plus I really enjoyed the collab with Kevin :)
Thank you Chris for covering the different cooling methods and the temperature comparisons, it's got a lot of potential. . 👍
so, great news about the passive cooling !!!
thanks for the test !! 😊😊😊
i thoroughly enjoyed this video. Thanks so much.
Interesting. Some critics have been saying that the Pi5 is lacking compared to other, recent, SBC's, but that may be simply based on paper specs alone, and a general misunderstanding of exactly what the target market is. I've just been watching your interview with Kevin, and your observation that removing bottlenecks on the Pi5 rather than "feature" or headline specs, is right on point.
Typically, I've only just acquired a Pi4 (Directly from the Pi Shop) just five weeks ago. I think I might have gone for the 5 simply based on the GPIO being handed off to the RP1 "southbridge" like IO controller. It's always the way isn't it? 🙄
I wouldn't exactly choose to video edit on a Pi, but as you demonstrate here, it is more than capable, so I might have to raid the piggybank and make another shop visit sporting my Raspberry Pi swag bag in a week or so. 👜
Thanks for introducing Kevin by the way. He's somehow fallen below my radar and the "algorithm". He's gained a sub.
Rpi4 as desktop is almost unusable. Rpi5 it's a better experience but I don't have any hope in getting it anytime soon.
@@Modulation75 The Desktop experience is not the best I agree, and there are more suitable devices out there for that. I wouldn't call it unusable however. The fact that it is so inexpensive and can do so many other tasks with ease of implementation, is where some people, perhaps, have too higher expectations.
Jack of all trades, master of none comes to mind, but with the exception that it can realise pretty much whatever the imagination can come up with as a prototype, learning exercise, or simple jumping off point.
RPI has never been about being the fastest. It doesn't particularly need to be.
You're paying for the community, documents, driver support.
@@benholroyd5221 Yes and no, Yes about support, and no because it used to be the better price/performance option too, with others SBC offering maybe some better I/O like emmc and m.2 with similar or lower performance. For years everything was compared against the RPI4 and it came up on top, until the RK3588 arrived, and the RK3588 got delayed due to covid.
The SBC world has envolved a lot ever since RPI1 was launched, with microcontrollers getting faster and better each year taking away a lot of the non-general use that the RPI was originally intended for. And now other brands like Rockchip are starting to get decent mainline support what is starting to eat away some of the "community & drivers support" thing as well.
And you can see that because the prices are intended to undercut RK3588S prices, thats very clear. And with full mainline support there is not contest here, the RK3588S is faster in cpu and a lot faster in GPU with better I/O as well.
To the point that im started to wonder if the Raspberry foundation intention with the new chipset is to sell it to other brands in order to make Raspberry PI compatible devices.
I have to say that the video call test is a nice addition to your SBC test suite. It does provide a bit more insight into the capabilities of both the hardware and the software.
Thanks for the tests, Chris! Impressive results with the passive heat sink, though it is gigantic. I'm just happy that the stock cooler isn't noisy and doesn't have coil whine.
I haven't bought a Pi since the first generation. This Pi 5 might be my next purchase.
Tanks Chris for computer news...
The Pi 5 has really made the wait worth it, in my opinion. I can't wait to install some of these in my rack.
I love numbers, charts, and graphs, so appreciated the temperature test very much.
Thank you for the new content!
thanks for addressing the cooling situation.. always tends to be my biggest question on these devices
I'm impressed with the Pi 5 & it's capabilities, the passive cooling & the call with Kevin worked really well, I'm looking forward to seeing future developments for the board. Once launched the Wayland code should've been sorted out for Kdenlive, the render times aren't too shabby enough time to make a cup of tea & a sandwich what's not to like :) Thank you for another interesting Sunday video!
Thank you for another great and relevant video!
I remember when the pi4 came out, I tested the speed of converting a video using Handbrake. Over the course of the first year, the speed got better with each OS update. A lot better.
And I imagine this will happen again. Raspberry Pi are very good at software optimization.
@@ExplainingComputers I'm even more excited to see what the Manjaro team does with the Pi 5, as from all I've seen from other channels the Pi 4 did very well on the Manjaro builds, and sometimes even outclassed Raspberry Pi OS for getting the most out of the Pi 4.
@@CommodoreFan64 I run Manjaro on a Pi 4 - very useful. I also run same OS on a mid-range Dell laptop and an older piece--built desktop (mid-range Core i5 based, but several years old now). For what I use computers for the Pi 4 could *almost* do everything. Basically in some video playback situations it stumbled. Also ran into some "browser/hardware not supported" issues with websites. Hence I keep the Intel based machines around. I'm going to pick up a Pi 5 and try it, just to experiment with.
@@philipstaite4775 Was the 'browser not supported stuff' widevine plugin perchance? The only issue I ever ran into that wasn't exceeding any reasonable expectation of the SBC's performance and browser was widevine. If it is I got round that issue by deliberately installing the 32bit chromium as 32bit arm was supported but 64 bit still isn't as far as I know.
I had a similar progression when using my first Pi4/4GB as a 24X7 server, running RasRiOS and RAID 1 on two 1TB SSDs for the data. The stability and speed are now excellent - I have owned commercial NAS boxes that were both slower and less reliable. Plus my P4 is silent as it has no moving parts.
Great to see how well the passive cooling worked.
A phenomenal SBC, indeed! Thank you, Professor...🇺🇸 👍☕
Very wonderful work Chris.
Initial tests have been encouraging. Software adjustments will most likely follow in the coming months, and the main irritants will be a thing of the past... The new version of the Raspberry Pi seems to be living up to expectations!
Thank you so much for the wonderful evaluation of the new Raspberry Pi 5.
Thank you sir for your video, great tests. Separately, I want to tell you that listening to you is the same as listening to the Beatles. Thanks again
Great video as always Chris, thank you!
The testing method is simple and effective. I borrowed it to test my own machine. Thank you.
Very cool to see Kdenlive running on a Pi . Thank you.
Very helpful. Thanks!!
I find your unique delivery, very relaxing/comforting.
Like that of a quirky college professor whom is well liked/respected.
☮
Thank you! 😃
Another fine video. I'm impressed with the P5. Thanks for the cooling review. That was Cool! or should I say, enlightening.
Interesting video particularly the passive cooling segment. I'm a fan of passive cooling, over the years I've changed dozens if not hundreds of cooling fans in equipment racks often they becomes very noisy and total failure isn't rare. I have a Flirc pi4 case where the whole case acts as a heatsink I wouldn't be surprised to see a pi5 version from them.
Thanks! I was waiting for this
Thank you Chris. Most informative. The Pi 5 Fan really does the job.
Hello, fellow Christopher! ... back again.
Good to see more good pi5 content.
Excellent video. Thank you.
This moment 5:42 reminded me of Spaceballs. (the scene where the heroes see their own movie) 😂
thx for the temperature tests
impressive results
great video as always 👍😀
It's very nice to have a new pi 5
So Raspberry Pi 5 is 2.5 times slower than Orange Pi 5 in EC Kdenlive test.
OPi5 52s vs 128s for RPi5 is a HUGE difference.
The Pi 5 may not be running Kdenlive optimally here. But regardless, the Orange Pi 5 has four A76 cores and four more A55s, whilst the Pi 5 has four A76 core only. And this has to make a difference.
Happy 501 mr Christopher!
Good Morning Chris. thanks for the news
Greetings!
Very content -rich video. Thank you for the great effort.
I like the Pi 4 case. Every Pi deserves a case like that.
Thanks again for a most informative vid. I think I will await the Pi6
Thank you as always for a great video. Top CZcamsr and an all round great guy...
Thanks for your support.
Thanks Chris for this demonstration video! I am looking forward to purchasing one.
I have one ideal for a passive heat-sink....a coffee cup warmer, that should be great for editing videos....:)!
Have a nice week!
I love it when people say "you can buy an Intel system for blah". This is missing the entire point of why the Raspberry Pi was created. I know almost everyone understands this but it still bears repeating. I ordered mine as soon as you could, I have a AMD Ryzen 7600 desktop and a Ryzen 5600H laptop and an Android smartphone. They all have different use cases than the Pi (and each other), they are not competing with each other. This is not rocket surgery.
Thank you, CB, for another excellent video.
It's good news to see that these video-intensive tasks are mere trifles for the Pi. I would suggest passive cooling by storing one's Pi in the icebox, but that would complicate the wiring.
Puns intended.
Impressive, definitely going to get me a Pi 5 after watching this video.
Microsoft Teams session starts:
"Hello. Can you hear me?"
"Yes. Can you hear me?"
This is exactly the same protocol with which I begin all Zoom calls. In the fragmented world of tech, it is good to see that there are some industry standards.
thanks to chris for making videos that are fun to watch and or more entertaining than news in the real world
Love your clear step by step video 👍 always your old time subscriber
Thanks for watching.
Every time I see one of these Pi videos, I wish I had an application that would justify me getting one. Seems like a fascinating field.
Hi Chris! Great video as always. I would've loved to see the official Pi 5 case included in the temperature comparison.
It took quite a while for the PI corporation to give us a new product, but I dare say,'it was worth it!' More or less out of the chute, (considering it hasn't even been officially released in production, this IS the best offering yet.
Thank you Chris
Great video Chris. As a senior citizen, I was worried about Covid in the fall. Now there are much more serious worries about where I can buy RPI 5.
My conclusion from this video is that if you have a large enough passive cooler, a fan is absolutely unnecessary, but a problem arises if you want to put a HAT on RPI.
put a ribbon cable on the gpio pins and a hat to the side, or add stacking headers to elevate the pins ...
@@jyvben1520 👍👍👍Thanks, now the heat problem is solved and also gpio access. Kind regards.
Thank you for the passive cooling tests! Passive cooling is important enough to me that I would pass on the Pi-5 altogether if there were no passive cooling options.
Brilliant
Very interesting tests. I like the Pi 5
I keep looking to decrease my desktop footprint to make room for decorations and other forms of distraction. This may fit the bill to realize that dream. Additionally, I’m excited about the new Pi 5. Thanks for an informative video! Again, great content!
Thank you so much Chris :)
Another very interesting video. Thanks Chris.. In my opinion passive cooling is okay and it can make your CPU run at lower temperatures but it will take longer to return back to its lowest idle temperatures again. So using a fan and heatsink is probably better in the long run to quickly get rid of the heat not only when running on load but also once the CPU returns back to its idle state to quickly get the temperature back down again.
Keep them coming Chris! Lots of things to explore with the latest Pi slice. I am sure software optimisation will be massive here and you even mentioned Wayland /X org, (which is like politics and religion at a dinner party all into one!)
I didn't get the Pi 4 because it was close but not quite there for video etc. The Pi 5 is very exciting and I will be acquiring one shortly.
Great comment on Wayland!
To paraphrase JFK, “ask not what Open Source can do for you, ask what you can do for Open Source”. Xorg is dying because nobody cares about it any more. If you want to get together a band of like-minded enthusiasts to keep it going, nobody is stopping you.
You can't beat "the smell of warm electronics in the air."
Impressive video performance!
I really appreciate the passive heatsink test. The Pi was always about low power computing adaptable to a wide range of environments including industrial control solutions where active cooling would be a non-starter since the Pi would be placed into an environmentally sealed box to avoid dust, debris, and fluids or chemicals from getting inside to mess up the electronics.
Thanks Chris, the cooling section of the video reminded me of the days when I first discovered your channel when you were doing cooling tests on the RPi3.
One thought for a potential video - how good is the RPi5 as an educational computer? You could look at everything from available resources (including the bookshelf program) to software (including programs such as Stellarium and Libre office).
Will be exciting to see what sort of emulation performance this thing has.
ETA PRIME already did some emulation tests on the Pi 5.
The teams demo was great. Would be interesting to see the rest of the online office suite on a rpi5.
Great video, thanks! Can't wait to try a Pi 5 now.
When he was showing this video being edited was anyone else reminded of the scene in the movie Spaceballs where they are watching a tape of the movie Spaceballs?
The KydenLive Edit and Render explanation fascinated me. I have no intention of EVER editing my home made videos to such a high standard (my bad; I'll live with it) but I am delighted that you (and so many others!) do so on CZcams. It isn't relevant to me on the face of it - but "real world" computing is: the 'standard test/many variations' and Adobe on an I7 PC matter to me, as an 'ordinary' user. Who is ordinary, really?
OK, that might need an AI Voltaire or Nietzsche to answer it, but perhaps Barnatt AI Philosophy will rank as highly one day - Raspberry powered?
Great video, as always. Many thanks - I have 2 RaspeberryPi 5's on order, plus accessories
Enjoy your new Pi 5s. :)
I like when I hear the intro. I don't need to watch to know there is going to be 20mins of quality content.
Great stuff, and while I can't see myself replacing my gaming computer, or laptops with Raspberry Pi 5, I could eventually see myself replacing my aging work office PC with one if they ever come out with a 16GB RAM version for future proofing, once the Manjaro team gets everything sorted out for the Pi 5, and NVME SSD get better support on the Pi5. As always thanks for the great video Chris 👍
I run Manjaro KDE on my Pi 4 and I have to say, it well outperforms Pi OS. Last month Chris did a render test in Gimp and mine completed it in 19 secs compared to 47 secs on his Pi 4.
The video I am on about is RISC-V Week. It's about 22 minutes in.
Thank you for the informative video and the clear explanations. Looks like my first Linux computer will be a Raspberry. If it is good enough for video editing, it ought to be good enough for most things
Thanks. You clearly get that my video editing test is not just about video editing. :)
wow this is pretty nice
Excellent video Chris, the passive cooling was as an interesting result.....
Can't wait to get FreeBSD on it and see how things run and no Wayland 🙂
Yes, we need FreeBSD on a Pi, and the option of whether to use Wayland in other OS. :)
During the previous weekend, the local authorized dealer in Greece had a formal presentation of the Pi5. One of the exhibited Pi5s had a 90deg. heatpipe passive cooler fitted - like the ones one may find for gpu cards. With top grade thermal paste being used the temperature during stress tests would not exceed 49 degrees Celsius on an 26 degrees ambient temp
noice . init . blessing to the scissor guru ..
Glad to see passive cooling is still not just possible but actually relatively easy.