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- Horsepower levels that were once thought out of reach for street based naturally aspirated engines are now becoming reality thanks to Australian companies like Higgins Race Heads. Ongoing research and development has resulted in a proven 900 plus horsepower small block Ford capable cylinder head and intake manifold
solution.
Now it’s one thing to achieve this on race fuel but this combination is making the numbers on regular pump 98-ron unleaded petrol.
This 461-cubic inch street Windsor V8 was purposely built for these Australian manufactured Cleveland style heads by Melbourne speed shop Dandy Engines. It features a 13:1 compression ratio using forged Diamond pistons and Oliver connecting rods. With input from Gale Powley of GP Technologies, Higgins Race Heads offer both the head and intake CNC ported components straight out of the box, flowing well over 400cfm. It’s important to note that this is not a bespoke race cylinder head, but an off the shelf complete ready induction package for pump fuel street cars.
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461 cubic inches spinning at 8200 rpm, that is bloody awesome
Steve Allen
My head said.... stroker... but the pulls they showed were from top of stroker RPM.... to FKN 8250😂🤣😂🤣 they seem to have employed the dark arts..🤔 who lost their soul in this deal?
There's a bunch of voodoo going on under that blue paint.
@@glentight Steve Fucking Vai....lol.
Pure sex on the dyno.
Love it .
On pump gas
The Aussies make and develop the some of baddest Sbf heads on the planet !!!
This is why Bob Glidden kicked everybody's ass in NHRA prostock for so many years. NHRA couldn't stand him winning so they had to keep adding weight to his car until he was noncompetitive. Great job guys.
same thing happend to dodge in nascar soooo
Yea! They pulled the same shit with Sox and Martin!
@@saludahead Just googled the sox and martin and its a absolute beast. Power to the Hemi
Ray Oddman
Bob Glidden won a lot of races by cheating using a Sneaky Pete Nitrous system, turned in by his two sons , RUSTY AND BILLY , due to an argument they were having.
According to Billy in a magazine article interview
Al Mierz That wasn’t with the 351C. That was later on when using a 499 inch BBF Wedge. By then, most racers were using juice. The “Dodge” boys, Alderman and Geoffrion were the ones that won a bunch of races on juice, hence their shop getting “broken into” and “vandalized.” Heck, Alderman had two nitrous backfires on the starting line, which really made people start to wonder. When Glidden went to the 429 in 1982, his sons weren’t old enough to race with him professionally yet. So yeah, he spanked ass with the 351C without using juice.
Those are incredable numbers on the dunk from a small block ford. Very impressive flow numbers from the heads. If I didn’t just see it for myself I wouldn’t have believed it. Great job Higgins
Horsepower levels that were once thought out of reach for street based naturally aspirated engines are now becoming reality thanks to Australian companies like Higgins Race Heads.
Fullboost that's impressive do they do mopar la cylinder heads?
mate well done. your content is great and very well presented
They can't be that good, all the mechanical design engineers and aero fluidynamicists below said so, I believe everything I read down there in the swamp.
Agreed, all types of engines are producing power figures that would not be believed just a few years ago.
I would like to have seen the pull start lower in the rpm range, though.
GordoWG1 WG1 #
Being a former 351ho and 351cj owner, I always said there was a lot of potential in the Cleveland
Heads. Made a lot of Plymouth and GM fans on the street mad because they lost to a small block Ford.
I used to have a BOSS 351C I transplanted into a 68 Fairlane Fastback. The Cleveland is definitely a kick ass motor.
Never lost to any ford In my charger but yes the 351 had heads of potential
@@chargerwoh I'll run ya...
@@chargerwoh I will race you. It will be a Drag Race, but you Will suffer a loss to my N/A 521 BBF in my 275/60 Drag Radial 86 Mustang, seriously doubt it Will be you're First Loss to a FORD, with that Big Heavyweight Charger.
Bad Ass 6.0 Powerstroke well I probably should of explained myself better and it’s an Aussie charger with a 440 ... light! only thing cast iron on it is the block and when it was a 265 inline 6 .... many many years ago I never ever struggled against any of the the other makes but at the end of the day mate you can’t take away the crazy power this sbf is making but in Australia 🇦🇺 the charger was king of the 1/4 mile for nearly 30 years but very light compared to their bigger brothers across the pond .sadly we only got 6 cylinders and small blocks
This is the sequel to my favorite video you made titled “How to build Horsepower.” Keep it up.
I’m back a year later and still can’t get enough of this type of video.
We are releasing another engine video today 👍
Dandy & higgens has put some work in doing awesome r&d that is too notch guys 👍👍
Almost 1000hp on pump fuel is insane
E85 would get them over the 1000HP mark!
Love the Dandy Engines vids. Great setup doing some amazing things!
Cleveland heads. Flow baby flow.
This is why the 351c is so loved.
The flow of the heads that are available now thanks to cnc and computer design are phenominal.
I can remember spending hundreds of hours of hand grinding and matching on ports anything nearly 2/3rds as high a flow as these head and intake make. Hand p&p and intake and exhaust girdles along with great valves and valve springs make some amazing Hp.
Breath baby breath!!!!
Well done Higgins holy cow
This is what I’m looking for, a have a 351C and I was looking to make power, I will start looking to adquire this parts in the internet, my 73 Torino will be so happy!!!
Very impressive.
I know it is 4 years later.
But awesome technology.
Thanks for sharing.
As an American Cleveland owner I absolutely adore Aussie Cleveland power. Keep up the good work on Ford Cleveland engines. Get the women kids and Chevy's off the streets.
There's nothing wrong with a V8 chevy... they are the most common V8 in the world and win 9 outta 10 times soooo yeah you can piss off with ur biased ford bullcrap
@@brockmaine2743 bwhahahahhahah.... win 9 out of 10 times... and claiming he is biased....you can fuck off with your chevy bias chump...
go luck
@John S In my opinion it is niether,when ford designed this cross breed it was called the FORD MOTORSPORT BLOCK in reality it more cleveland than windsor when you run a cleveland top end
@@brockmaine2743 Panties in a twist much deary !!
Glorious sound!!
really nice RPM for the setup, massive flow on those heads for a CNC port, It would be hard to keep the air up to them and fit the setup under a bonnet. Long live Pushrod V8's!
Seems everybody below has forgotten our home grown Ford legend and all round Chevy Ass kicker Joe Polito and what he did with his SBF. Also jus wonderin how much timing these guys run with 13 2 1 and lawn mower only fuel. Incredible stuff. Thanks for vid.
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! I AM SO IMPRESSED!!!! SOMETHING TO CONSIDER!!!! THANKS FOR SHARING!!!!
wow! I'm impressed, so impressed, I subscribed 😊
8200rpm. And the mod gunkies say pushrod V8 can't t it rn high rpms. No need for a ohc.
a production engine that turns 8400 rpm or a race specced motor.... Hmm.... I have seen lil stock cranked 281 sohc turn 9500 plus rpms....
They can but not for too long. Ohc will rev 8 all day long
@@scottmcgregor2757 better be looking for the chain or chains to say see you later. I have always been a ford guy until the intro of the ohc like so many others were. . Nothing but a long history of problems Glad they finally replaced thier truck engines with a proven platform and cant wait till it makes its way into the mustang eventually. That will be a engine that can compete with the 6.2 with size,hp,and tq.
Ey I've always liked my f 150 4.6 redline alday long an not hurt a thing an mind you I got it at 230k miles. Only problem I've had was locked up ac pump made me think I blew it up.....one bypass pulley later redlining once again. Lmfao then everybodys like chains this chains that. I'm pretty sure some motors were messed up period cuz I still dont hav any chain slap. Or just junk metal
Considering this base engine is over 50 years old Ford had it close all along. Same deck height, same bore spacing, same cam location, same cylinder head bolt pattern. Great combo.
Tom Hamilton you sure this isnt a tall deck? Thatd be a lot of cubes out of stock geometry
@@jubjub905 the 351 came only in 1 deck height. You can do so much with it.
jubjub f it’s a 9.5 deck stock Geezus, fuckin torqueless wonder, slowest piston speed of all small blocks 🤦🏻♂️
@@rickeydriskill1096351W had 2 deck heights in the US. 9.48 1969-1970. 9.503 1971-1996.
@@rickeydriskill1096 351c stock 9.2 deck, 351w stock 9.5 deck !!
Dayyyyyum! You Aussies really know how to build race engines. Unreal. I was hoping this was a package for the Ford A460 Big Block. Which Windsor block did you choose to build up from? Thanks for sharing! Blessings and cheers from Motown (Detroit, Mi)!
That’s one high revving bad ass motor!!👍🏽👍🏽
Wow- that's very impressive...
Mind blowing stuff, and this engine just sounds so smooth. Are there induction options to fit under a Falcon XA bonnet? Would have to put a Lenco behind that, and a lightweight 9 inch with detroit center, and go for a record around Bathurst.
Wow. U guys are crazy. Good job.
One hell of a lobe on that cam 🤘 looks as wide as it is tall
THAT'S FUCKING INSANE, AND I LOVE IT NICE WORK GUYS.
That's dope as hell!! ✊🏽😎🤙🏽
It's an amazing feat to say the least.
Thats mental power for an NA small block
Holy Cow..! That thing was Singing a Song...👍I want one...
Oh no, the Chevy fanboys are going to get mad.
Umm probably not when theres millions of chevs making similar hp/per ci. Truth be told I think most REAL chev guys probably just like seeing a rowdy n/a v8 making big numbers and don't get all butthurt over dumb brand loyalty. I know I do.
@@trixnhoez2964 well said and i agree brand loyalty is honestly just childish..... all V8s are badass
Brand loyalty is total ignorance. Engines are just air pumps. They are all doing the same thing. And if you throw money at them regardless of the manufacturer you can make more power. Weak points can be replaced. Restrictions can be removed. The Cleveland engine is interesting in particular. Big block Chevy styled heads with canted valves that sit on top of a small block. There actually wasn't a small block head by any oem manufacturer that could stand up to the Cleveland head's flow until 1997 when GM debuted the LS1. They we're matched with the boss 302 block in 69 and 70 for trans am racing. And in 1970 the Ford boss 302 mustang won the trans am racing championship.
@@Firion13 well to be clear ... in my opinion there's nothing wrong with being loyal to one brand and what not. The problem I have is when people are assholes about it and hate on other brands simply because it's not what they would buy or own, I'm a chevy guy and always will be but I do like dodge and ford aswell. 9 out of 10 people are just too prideful and say they hate this or that and have never even owned another brand, they just hate it because most likely that's what their father or mother owned so they feel like they need to own it aswell. When I see or hear someone hating on a certain brand I always like to ask them.... which would you like to see win a ford dodge or chevy V8? Or a Japanese brand? Then they come around and the brand doesn't matter anymore lol I don't hate Japanese cars but I know I'd rather see an american V8 (no matter the brand), whoop on the Japanese cars haha BTW ford guys are the worst because the true ford guys are so damn ignorant they absolutely HATE chevy and idk why because Chevrolet is probably the biggest name now days in drag racing and street racing.
I have to disagree.
I don't like Chevrolet because they refuse to offer quality to their customers.
Chevys fall apart. After only five years you'll be wearing your headliner on your head in a Chevy.
The engines are pretty good and they go a quarter million miles if you take care of them. However, the rest of the vehicle will look like it was digested by bacteria at only half those miles.
I drive a twenty four year old f-350 and it still looks almost new.
It is an exquisite machine and a testament to customer value.
But, the rivalry is fun. And, the more ridiculous people get with it the more fun it is.
But, you'll have to excuse me because I have a candy ring and some fun dip and it's time for me to go and have a real treat!
13:1 compression
>450 cubic inches
Low drag reciprocating assy
Purpose built
Damn
Great video, would anyone know the cost of engine set up?
Not to mention NHRA executives are a bunch of chevy lovers Bob Glidden is my super man flying the FORD banner I wish I had him sign my glove box like Shelby did.
Would like to see that same tech put in a 2.9 V6 ford cologne engine to see what could be done
Not a Ford fan but gotta give that the thumbs up. 💯🔥
also, how much is this intake/cylinder head package? I couldn't find the price in the site?
Shat is the difference in the curve when you take off that huge carb spacer?
wonder what it would do on E-85
Will it sit in traffic all day in hot weather and not overheat? if not race car stuff.
whats a head/ intake package worth..ready to bolt on?
That’s sick as hell, about 2hp per c.i.
If I ever win the lottery I'm buying a motor from dandy racing with Higgins stuff that's guaranteed
What heads do you have that would put out those numbers on a Stroked 347 Ford Block with a 70mm Turbo?
Will these heads bolt on my chevy, LS forums say they have the same bolt pattern???
2.1 horsepower per cubic inch w/ one 4 bbl carburetor is a good show.
Now that I think about it that is really quite impressive.
Over 8000 rpm is pretty cool for a Windsor
What ia the price on this particular package.
Will it work on a dart block
Must be a BIG stick to turn 8k
Geez, a small block Ford Engine revving to 8 grand ! That's impressive right there :)
A huge crank throw 461 cube monster Small Block !!
So what do numbers look like for big block ford running higgins parts ported to the max. And using a belt instead of chain. And bigger valves and taller lift with aluminum rods and of course best cam for high end power and four bolt main on all five mains full build all the tricks in the book roller rockers and all that on 460 junkyard virgin block. And would it handle twin turbos. PROFESSIONAL COMENTS ONLY. This smal block made almost a grand hp the big block without turbos shld have way more rite??
What package will fit my 95 ford Xl 5.0 v8 efi engine?
What’s the cost on the heads?
RESPECT!
Freaking sweet, thats a really nice looking block. Only part that made me giggle is the bowtie engine on the screen when its a ford block
Thought l pretty smart around engines & engine tech. How do u get a 13:1 comp engine 2 Run on 98 Octane Fuel. If the guy had said 11:1 or even 11.5:1 l could have accepted those no's. Pls explain. Other than that.... Higgins does fabulous work.
was the same pump used even for race fuel?
does this use flat tappet or roller ???
Killer ford power love it
So are rose cammer heads a V8 can I get a 289 cammer but my engine car 32 valves I stoked it i beleave well I'm hoping with the right parts and boost I'm hoping for 1100 hp😊😚 one of few cars I need to build up hahaha what so you think about me stroking this maching block to a 347. With titanium piston sleeves. As toy could tell I'm basically sleeping???😎😊
Do you make a head and intake combo like this for a 460 big block?
Bob Keller MBE AND JON Kaase
That guy’s sitting up there flogging on it all day!! It’s a beast! Put it in a cage! Wish it was mine!
Could it go higher if on EFI?
This what I need
How much are them heads.?
That belt...
Yep, like watching a Pilchard next to a white pointer.
I think this combo could possibly break 1k hp if they were to use C85 and a Meth injection setup.
What type of belt drive timing chain setup are they using?
Looks like a Jesel belt drive
Simon C thanks, looks lot a lot of awesome!👍
Damn ! I got a hard on just looking at the final run-- 979 horse power ! Even Glidden didn't achieve that with his engine. ( with a single 4 barrel, no less !) What a difference years, exceptional cylinder heads, and technology make ! That engine is the cat's meow !
You Aussies rock !
Glidden made his numbers with around 337 to 342 cubes !!
@@arkhsm You are absolutely right. I was in no way saying anything bad about Bob at all. He had to work within a very tight framework of rules. And he was the best at it, bar none ! He was a hustler, that’s why he was called “ mad dog” ! He most definitely eclipsed the above mark with his Boss 429 engine, though !
@@jimmywaters3987 I've got a signed by Bob dollar bill sitting on the Revell model of his '87 T-bird. I visited the US from NZ in '87, doing a 10,000-mile lap in the $400 '73 Mercury Monterey I bought in LA. I stopped in at the Texas Motorplex to watch Big Bad Bob mow down all the GM Stuff. Has to be one of THE best times of my life !!
Expert comments incoming
Boosted Brothers Customs thats why i love this ch. i love the vids but the comments and bench torque are to die for :)
ti1355 that's the key to understanding that v8s suck because they dont drink fuel they piss it out compared to a small displacement engine turbo'd... if fuel was cheap as chips v8s would be the best
Sam trebil u banana. if fuel economy was what this build/engine/vid is about yes it would have failed. movin a 2-3t car in 10 seconds and faster down the quarter - 4cyl me that my friend.....and once upon a moon i owned a quick 4g63 vr4 (not 10 sec or even close to 800hp!!!) and it would never had done the above figures or have been any better on fuel. i reckon u should go buy a smart car or a prius.......
@fullboost i think we have a supporter of MANG!!!!!!
Matthew Smyk I sure Em the banana here trying to prove a point to people like yourself who lie to themselves by saying a evo motor drank as much fuel as a Big block big camd V8.... not going to waste my time, your correct v8s are the best in the world
2-bhp per cubic inch, (461cid) naturally aspirated, pump gas, 13:1 compression @ 8k revs. The factory Cleveland heads have potential, but those aluminum heads must open a wormhole!
2.12 hp per cube !!
What's the hose from the rocker cover to the pump thing for? I've seen a video of a 300whp NA Honda make an extra 5whp when they attached a vacuum cleaner to the rocker breathers lol. Is this a similar contraption haha??
Boostedboiz
Vacuum pump
Mick D how does a street motor need a vacuum pump.. 😂
Rome3aaro because too much cam imbecile. Now do you want a good vacuum to the brake booster or run over the crowd.
BOO' that's a bit harsh when you are as ignorant - while some vehicle will use an auxiliary vacuum pump for the brake booster/servo, that is not what is shown here. It is a vacuum/scavenge pump used to create a low pressure in the crankcase to reduce windage losses.
It is increasingly common to use a hydraulic servo' on modified vehicles where a hydraulic power steering pump is fitted, as the pump can be used for the servo' as well as the steering rack.
How do you keep it together at 8200 rpm? That's Nascar territory.
I just want to know and I'm from the US how do you run a 13 to 1 compression on pump gas I don't want to seem stupid but I really want answers
With Factory heads we ran 11.7. Add Aluminium and it is worth a point so 12.7. More modern Combustion Chambers than the Factory Heads and add a bit more. With the better more modern Combustion Chamber Flame front propogation is better so not as much timing needed so safer. Then ultimately, to get an engine making big numbers comes big Cams. Big durations vent compression so static Comp is a Big number but Dynamic Comp or Cylinder Pressures come down the more duration you have. I hope that helps. By the way, our built for Street Strip Clevo's are running Mid 12's:1 quite often on our 98 RON which is US 93. with no issues at all usually with cams over 250deg@50" and total timing of 26-28deg. Cheers. I hope I gave you a decent explanation.
What did this engine build cost?
you would think they would know how to properly adjust a fan belt , looks like its about to fall off, i wonder what else is not right
what's it like down low say 3700 rpm ?
I'll make sure to get rice heads for my car.
very impressive. Care to elaborate on 13 to 1 compression and pump gas?
thanks.
This combo runs on 93aki / 98ron pump unleaded 👍
@@fullboost ...yes, I hear ya......how is this possible?
is this because of the chamber?
or have you found that 93 octane is all that is needed for 13 to 1
@@harryharry3193I was also wondering about detonation on 93 aki. 13:1 seems a bit high. If they mirror polish the chambers, and supply enough fuel, it would help, but I’d feel more comfortable with it if it had water/methanol injection at wide open throttle or dropping it to 12:1.
8100 rpm with push rods it never seizes to amaze me. 👌
Christoffer Sinding, It’s been going on for decades, where have you been?
Shit box
461 windsor to 8250 rpm... find me another😂... pushrods do turn this (and more)... with lightweight crank/rods/pistons/pushrods/rockers/valves + some fuckin champion valve springs, combined with a short stroke... but a 461 windsor...
Glen Tight, Should it not be able to turn 8200? I’ve seen plenty of big blocks do the same...
Shit box...
Just that the Windsor is usually restricted by bore size/wall thickness...meaning that they are usually under square....for a 461(crate).. longer stroke than the bore diameter... to hit high rpm(i would call 8200 high).. it is usually oversquare...and the SBF Windsor does not have enough meat between the cylinders to go too far over square..
Richard Skipper
Yep... no drama.. small stroke 8000 rpm all day.
That motor should run a 9 in my car so when can you ship It to me?
any idea on what these heads and intake are going for?
Thats not a cheap block and rotating assembly either
$AUD4999
Thanks guys.
Is there a reason why Dandy Engines choose to use the Windsor based block over any of the now new aftermarket Cleveland blocks like the Titus, Track Boss and the Arrow block?
thebig 4wheeler the cleveland aftermarket blocks are more expensive tan a dart shp block and about same price as an iron eagle,my engine builders is a cleveland man but he will use dart blocks because he has proven them,and i say that this engine builder thinks the same
I think more his Preference.
Why is the large plenum spacer necessary? Would a holley terminator efi be able to deliver the same results without the spacers?
No you'd be reducing plenum volume and adding restriction to airflow (reducing velocity) you'd be down on a bit of power
its called a high riser manifold
Thanks superoo for your input.. A high riser hey.... What you might notice is the 3 inch spacer between the carb and the manifold.. Can't imagine it sitting under a bonnet with it sitting so high. I'm just wondering if you removed the fuel jets out of the middle of the carb by using a throttle body efi would you you achieve a similar fuel charge velocity. now if this is all to much then feel free not to answer
this is how the carby works best ,the self tuning efi carby will make changes in the software to compensate for the intake deficiency using the sensor inputs temp,map,wideband etc etc,even better if you want to go forced with the blow thru efi carby version but that may need more tuning for your application
Very expensive NA engine, but leaves all the benefits of turbo on the table?
How do you run 13:1 without knock on pump gas?
What's the cam specs?
JOSE CHUNG'S FROM OUTER SPACE! Its pump gas. It all has to do with the dynamic compression ratio
98-ron has a lot to do with it.
It may run on the dyno with pump gas and 13.1 compression, but wait till someone trys to do that in a vehicle on the street. Dyno's feed water that's usually 140 degrees. Your engine temps. In a street driven car are going to be much higher, heat plus pump gas and 13.1 equals detonation.
This is not a one off engine there are a lot of them in street cars already. 👍
Damn, that sounds nasty!
I'd love to know what this engine costs. Amazing power for NA and pump gas.
chris. CNC ported! Who knows but $$$$$
I have to believe it's at least $25K
I wish we had pump98!!! Up here in canada all we got is 91...
Your fuel is measured differently (AKI) so the equivalent of our 98 would be 93 in Canada. 👍
What are the internals
It's good to see that it's possible n/a but, I am certain that the reasonable and intelligent HP/$ threshold is far surpassed. One would be much better off producing a basic 393/408/418/427/436 stroker with a roller cam 351w block, adding some heads that cost between $800-$1900 a set complete, a nice sized cam, port injection, Terminator X and a simple 78/75 VS turbo kit that would allow them to.produce 900hp crank with ease, might want to move towards E85 pump fuel instead of 93/94 octane and be capable of well over 1000hp if the fuel system is there while spending quite a bit less and having way less on the line if the thing breaks along with an ungodly Tq curve without the added cost, wear.complexity of high rpms to reach the numbers or the razor thin tuning window 13:1 compression must dictate.
Some people want an n/a engine, they sound great
Would like to know where you ring 98 street fuel
It's comparable to USA 93
What is a mill like this currently worth?
wonder how much More HP this 461C eng combo would make with a longer (1.52) rod in it?
with a good dual carb tunnel ram it should make 1000+HP n/a
Check out Alon Vella's multiple Aussie Drag Week Challenge, to see his near-identical setup running a best of 8.49@160 ! Street Machine Magazine has a great article on this combo !!
I don’t mean to split hairs over this fantastic illustration, but I honestly wished that it was electronic fuel injection rather than mechanical fuel injection.
Top points for the amazing work on this consumer ready package 👍🏻
It uses a BRE , Book Racing Enterprises , carburettor ? What fuel injection ?
wont really make a difference
Sard Engineering, 4500 carburetor, not injection...
Not Stupid what drugs are you on?
Not Stupid you can introduce fuel at the same point using efi too by that logic and efi is more stable. Top fuel dragsters use efi. End of.