Surface Laptop 3 vs 13" MacBook Pro - Full Comparison
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- čas přidán 20. 07. 2024
- Microsoft's 13.5" Surface Laptop 3 is one of the most premium Windows laptops you can get for the price, but can it beat out Apple's 2019 13" MacBook Pro?
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Timestamps:
Build Quality and Design - 00:55
Layout Differences - 02:27
Display ComparisonZ - 03:35
Comparing Ports - 04:02
Display Quality - 05:01
Color Accuracy - 05:33
Keyboard and Trackpad - 05:56
Speaker Comparison - 07:17
Performance Comparison - 08:44
SSD Speed Comparison - 09:46
The Verdict - 10:14
The 13.5" Surface Laptop 3 features an all-metal design, just like the MacBook Pro, so it feels very premium.
The displays are pretty similar, and the keyboard feels a bit more traditional and easier to type on with the Surface Laptop 3.
In terms of performance, we were actually surprised by the results! Check out this full comparison to find out!
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You don't need Thunderbolt 3 USB-C to connect external displays and docks. Even USB-A 3.x supports this.
Awesome thanks
You know, it DOES have a touch screen, something important that you overlooked.
Hey I need a little help guys..
I'm thinking of buying an iPad for mostly Gaming . I have 3 in mind. Can u guys decide which will be the best because I don't want to be outdated quickly also.
1. iPad pro 10.5"(2017) ,wife plus 4g FOR $440. (REFURBISHED)
2.iPad air 3,10.5"(2019),Wi-Fi plus 4g FOR $580.
3.iPad mini 5,7.9"(2019),Wi-Fi plus 4g FOR($509)
I want an iPad which gets updates and is reliable for at least 5 years.
Pls help
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I stopped watching the video after reading the comments...you missed to mention a lot...according to your viewers...so bye...lol
Totally overlooked the touch screen on the Surface.
KleanZlate's Channel facts I have the surface laptop 2 and I can’t live without it especially when my friends have macs I try to touch their screens lmao
@@lanceregan3400 keep ur dirty fingers off the mac jk
Not going to lie but I like a clean display so I really dislike touch screens. Hate when people touch my laptop thinking its touch.
@@nathanlow4649 i love touchscreens and hate fingerprints anywhere. I love the surface alcantara, because it does not get fingerprints on the body, and i wash my hands often anyways so the display never gets dirty, if it does i wipe it. Added benefit of the alcantara cover is that the sound quality is better through the fabric.
@@Ropetable I own a MacBook, but I also really like the alcantara, as in my case I know not to touch mine but since alot of laptops are adapting a touch display nowadays other students just keep touching it. Guess we both love a clean display.
Come on now, you should know better Max:
The USBC port on the surface does indeed support monitors and docks, and ssd's, just not faster gpu's and tb3 products.
The surface dock charges faster than usbc, and has an extra usba charger port on it, it also has a ton of docks and adapters available, including ironically a Microsoft usbc adapter that supports charging, most do not know this.
Again the usbc port on the surface along with adapters for the surfaceconnect fully support 4k Color accurate monitors.
And the Surface fully supports artists with their stylus support for drawing/image editing/video editing/music editing programs, and their full touch screen supports video and audio editing and web surface using your fingers/pen on the screen for better and faster control in many situations than a trackpad or mouse.
I am suprised you did not mention the touchscreen.
Or that Microsoft sells docks and a usbc adapter for the surface connect. (that supports docks, monitors, and usbc charging).
That the surface connect is magnetic like Magsafe, and can save your laptop from a fall if you trip over the cord, while charging.
That the surface connect allows for fast charging, faster than usbc or thunderbolt-80% in 1 hour.
The ssd and wifi card can be upgraded in the surface 3 laptop.
The fabric version with the same 128GB storage as the macbook Pro is $300 dollars cheaper, and aside from the fabric is identical to the Alumuinum surface with upgradeable ssd ay a later date for much cheaper possible by the user.
Other then better cpu/gpu perfprmance, 2 usba ports, taller screen, ability to add another usbc, or dock or monitor to the fast charging surface connect port....
....the ace up Microsoft's sleeve is that users can upgrade the ssd themselves, with a special torx driver.
512GB is about $80, and 1TB is under $200, as we speak, and this is huge!
Most people with thunderbolt 3 never ever upgrade to an expensive egpu chassis, and then also buy the expensive videocard, along with the expensive short tb3 cable, we are talking about an extra $500-$1500 cost.
Most buyer who will need thunderbolt three do the practical thing and buy a laptop with dedicated graphics as many 13-14" laptops have now aside from apple, that is much cheaper then adding an EGPU through thunderbolt, and with less complexity and compatibility and driver problems.
Most use thunderbolt 3 to add docks, port adapters, monitors, storage, battery cases, all of which can be down just as well and fast with usbc.
The tenth gen processors have special instructions on them that speed up rendering, encoding, 4 k even 8k, that is not available on the 8th gen chips
Otherwise great comparison..
Thanks.
but underneath it all, its still Windows 😢
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@Tigerex966 you're making very good points here! Well done.
@@originalmagneto or linux, or hackintosh.
@@durden02 thanks.😊
Both are great machines, I own a macbook pro, and have a desktop for heavy lifting.
So, if I were to buy a laptop today, it would probably be the alcantara $999 surface 3 laptop, which is usually $200 off every where for $799, and then add my own 512 SSD for $80=$10 torx screw driver.
Buy a used stylus $25.
And an extended warranty, all for about $1000.
All while being, quite a bit cheaper than the 256GB Macbook Pro.
Which is $1699.
Apple charges an insane amount for memory and storage upgrades, which is where their big profits come from, ironically, Microsoft charges an even higher rate.
But since Microsoft wants to sell to enterprise businessess, they "HAVE" to include removable ssd's for security and repair reasons.
Apple could care less about the business enterprise market.
Or the requirement of removable ssds, to protect one's privacy when the machines need servicing or are sold in 2 to 4 years when the lease is up.
And quite a bit faster at graphics and cpu, with no fan.
Both are more then capable for color accurate work, and in my case, I would just hook the surface up to my color accurate 4K desktop monitor, the same as I do my Macbook Pro now.
Having said that, I think the Macbook Pro 13, is probably the best value Macbook Pro you can buy right now, and is a great machine too, especially for those of us, that HAVE to have Mac OSX, and even for those switching from windows for the first time.
I can see pain in Max’s eyes every time surface beats a category spec lol
He intentionally left out a important part of the surface... the touchscreen. Notice how he brought up the Mac touchbar?
@@derekdeans9523 the touch bar is just a gimmick
@@derekdeans9523 lol! A tiny touch bar that you have to code for is good ... but not a giant touchscreen? I guess, only if it is an iPad, right? Then it is great again? Big lol!!!
PattyMayonnaise
No one cares about touchscreen. Actually, I personally hate it.
PattyMayonnaise ok surface fanboy
Do no let Apple fanboys do this kind of comparisons.
@Kermit the Frog that statement is too old bro, get an update please.
Lol that was moronic.
Kermit the Frog it is not about the money. If it was, I am capable enough to buy the town or the district you live.
I am not hater, just not a fan of anything. I use iPhone and a Windows machine as my laptop.
You do realize he is comparing two machines that cost the exact same in terms of price right LOL?
@Happy Face It's funny that "fans" rave about how amazing Macs are, but the entire tech industry is literally writing about how poor the quality and longevity of Macs are now, alongside the lack of innovation in recent years. No tech journalist is recommending Macs like they used to, even theverge writers who they give free Macs out to. It's universally recognized that the Dell XPS is the best laptop on the market, and the it just got better.
The MacBook is more portable? I guess those 3mm ruin portability. Haha
Lol right I wouldn't buy a MacBook I'm not paying 1300 for something that's known to have failing parts
Yeah, it is silly to compare portability by thickness or size instead of weight where the surface is quite a bit lighter
Well did u see the thickness difference of these MacBooks ? The surface is almost twice as thick lmao
@@simply6162 not really. SL3 is slightly thinner at the thinnest edge and slightly wider at the widest edge. SL3 is also a 1/4 lbs lighter. Weight is more important than a few mm in portability.
it is actually heavier and if you need usb, you have to add a dongle.
Specs aren’t similar, surface laptop has 10th gen processor whereas macbook has 8th gen. This guy is just biased
Its called an apple sheep
My Surface Laptop 3's type-C can connect to a 4k 60hz monitor (U3219Q) while charging at the same time. I like your videos but you should do your research better.
Agree with you! He didn't even mention the touch screen
This guy is a typical apple fan underneath.. He totally skipped the part where many people are facing issues with the butterfly keyboard 🤷♂️
Its not a good idea to compare speaker on max volume
For most laptops yeah...but these 2 don't distort at max
Ummm... You can absoluetly connect hubs, monitors, etc through the USB C port. You just can't get external video cards.
Yes, but not Thunderbolt 3 docks and high resolution with external monitors.
Thunderbolt 3 gives you 4x the bandwidth so you have a lot more options and can connect to docks. Some things that USB-C can't support is 10Gbe, eGPU's and other external devices that need PCI express, daisy-chaining, dual 4K monitors and in some cases 5k and 6K monitors compared to a single 4K being the max, TB3 can also output audio without the need for a DAC like USB-C does, They really should have gave us at least one Thunderbolt 3 in a laptop that ranges from $1000-$2400. Similarly priced Dell laptops give us 2x TB3 ports.
You can have a single 4k60 monitor and USB-c hubs. Now do you have a lower ceiling in total bandwidth? Absoluetly. But it is not correct to say that you can not connect a monitor or USB hubs.
@@MaksimYuryev I'm not debating the benefits of thunderbolt. I'm saying that it is wrong to say that you can not connect a monitor or USB hubs.
Most hardware is just USB-C. I run my 4k display at 60Hz using a USB-C dongle, no issues. Agree with the comment above: thunderbolt only matters for external GPUs or some other very specialized hardware. The great great majority of people won't notice the absence.
When you realized the one you actually like isn't the best, this review is exactly that
Damn
Yeah, he really tries to make the surface look good. Just isn't.
forgot to mention the surface dock for the surface laptop, that allows some more connectivity, although thunderbolt would be much better.
Nice review thanks but I wish you guys mentioned about battery life as well, because I am wondering how much improvement Ice Lake introduces in power efficiency.
HI, did you run the benchmark pluged to ac or unpluged? Thx in adv
Question For my Lovely Content creator does Surface have adobe premiere available on that.
@Max Tech which one would be better for watching Netflix, Hulu, and CZcams with?
@MaxTech which one would be better for watching Netflix, Hulu, and CZcams with?
I'm a Macbook user for years now, and I have i have to say, I'm quite impressed with the Surface this year. If I had to choose at this price point between these 2 I would have to go with the Surface. Its time for Apple to Up the Ante on their Pro laptops. This has been due for ages now.
Isaac Reyes Chang I agree. I want the i7 16 gig 256 storage surface and it is about 500 bucks cheaper than the MacBook Pro after student discount for both while using newer processors. Basically forcing me to go for the surface
Price wise, Macbook will always be more expensive than Windows, in a nutshell its all about Resale value.
Macbooks do not lose value that easily. A MacBook’s resale value is much higher than Windows laptops. Even though you paid quite a bit for your MacBook, you can recover some of that by selling it. Plus the "Made by Apple" concept Seriously. Apple is a high margin business and markets itself as a premium brand. It has the resources to market very expensive products and actually sell them. Windows laptops? Not really. Also, the world’s most popular smartphone, the iPhone works very, very, very perfectly with Macbooks. Major MacOS apps are 100% compatible and have almost 100% feature parity with their iOS versions. This makes you miss less from your iPhone when you are using a MacBook. Does the above make Windows laptops inferior? No. Okay honestly, somehow. However, some people just prefer Windows. But MacBooks are exceptional machines that many people appreciate. They’re very dependable, they have awesome looks, and have great overall performance. That’s why makes MacBooks more expensive than Windows laptops.
@@christopherliang6879 The fact the surface pro is windows is a no no for me. I cant stand windows.
@@thevitruvianman9781 have you tried it on a nice laptop? I actually prefer it to MacOS if you have a nicer laptop.
@@thevitruvianman9781 Have you tried multitasking on Windows. No contest which one is better. The snap feature is a lifesaver. Macs users screens are a cluttered mess of random sized windows and apps. And file management is a 100x better. Not to mntion the windows 10 search bar is probably their greatest addition of the last decade. I have to use both types of systems for work and windows just let me work like a pro. And also the keyboard is universally praised as better, I'm addition to it not bricking your day to day usage.
Can you also compare hp spectre x360 2in1 4k oled(late 2019)?
Not many youtubers are reviewing and its the ony 13 inch laptop witb oled panel.
Not worth it. HP's build quality is not that good. It has cracking sound when pressed towards bottom right or bottom left. Its kinda flimsy. Build quality is not that great. You wouldn't be confident while using it compared to XPS 13 2in1 or MacBook Pro for that case. These devices feel a lot more superior and kinda rigid and well build compared to the HP. I'm not saying Dell is better. It's just well built. Dell has its own share issues including the infamous coil whine issue and wifi issues with killer wifi cards used in them. You're better off getting any surface device. Either the laptop or the tablet. They're overall well built devices now with a little bit of repairability as well. If surface isn't the go-to device for you, why not consider something like the upcoming samsung galaxy book flex but you have to wait till march to get it i suppose. That seems quite nice also including the S-Pen. In Dell, you need to buy the pen separately and it doesn't charge so you're stuck with AAAA batteries etc. Also, Dell has a major drawback. It doesn't have Windows Hello.
9:05 what is that in the top right, who have you trapped to work for you? Was that their signal for help?
He called himself apple fanboy last video. Why did you say that it all these video unreliable
This guy sounds like typical fanboy. USB-C doesn't need to be thunderbolt to connect monitors and charge lol 😂. Also u overlooked touch on surface. What comparison did u do.. Tf 😂
Ok surface fanboy...cry on
I heard Surface Laptop 3 has touch screen. Thanks for clearing up. :)
LONG NANCY - Every Surface device has a touch screen. 😊
Yet he brought up the touchbar like it was a win for the Mac. That thing is useless.
@@AppleiPhone379 he was being sarcastic
PattyMayonnaise - some mac users say it’s very helpful. I rather have a touch screen laptop instead of always looking down at the touch bar...
@@AppleiPhone379 Exactly. They literally claimed that using a touchscreen on a laptop is a distraction because users have to look at it. You're literally already staring at the screen. You have to look down to use the touchbar
so... I'm confused does the macbook pro 2019 have a butterfly keyboard or a scissor keyboard? Other sources online say apple ditched the butterfly keyboard in 2019.
Is surface laptop 3 13.5“ good for high end programming , server side programming , high performance computing or data mining data science works?? Or should I go for MacBook ?
You really should just get a desktop.
Laptops sacrifice a lot of computing power for mobility.
Where do you get the wallpaper on the macbook?
I just got a surface lpt 3 and so far so good, but what annoys me is that the fans keep kicking in all the time, even with just basic stuff like browsing, and doc writing or excel editing... :( And it gets pretty hot in the base (And I'm on a desk - not lap)
Is it normal? Or should I return it and get another one?
Max Tech which one would be better for watching Netflix, Hulu, and CZcams with?
should i get a surface 3 i7 10th gen or macbook air 2020 i7 10th gen (doesn’t have cpu cooling fan)
Whats better for video editing?? Or would be a another laptop?
awesome review, what is the main use of thunderbolt 3?
Thanks for the great comparison. Appreciate your thoroughness! You missed one point. The Surface pro has a touch screen.
In my work I mainly read documents and attend meetings. Everything is paperless so I mostly read .pdfs and annotate before and during meetings on glass with a stylus. I use soft notebooks for all note taking. Like to hand write notes only. Better engages the brain with the content and you can draw lines and pictures as you go. Often pdf an email and add it to the meeting folder. Give me paper, I hand it back, "email or link me, now".
As an early adopter I use an iPad (my 3rd) and have a Macbook Pro. Most of my colleagues are now paperless and more than half use now use touch screen PCs and more than half of them are MS Surfaces.
Perhaps you could follow up this review by comparing the Surface with the iPad. Ease of annotation of documents and use of note books for hand written notes. Comparison of Aps. Ease of email use, opening and making small changes to MS office files, ease of conversion of MS Office files to .pdfs for meetings. Yeh I know MS Office does hand writing too. I love Good Reader. Kills everything else.
When you compare costs you need to compare the Surface with a Macbook Pro plus an iPad with Apple keyboard and Apple pencil. The Apple cost will be more than 1.5 times could be 2X if you went top line iPad. Then there is the nuisance of charging and looking after two devices plus hassles with transferring documents through iCloud. I would be really interested in a proper comparison between the Surface and Apple equivalent for my use case.
Thanks again.
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Does the touchpad clicking difference matter if you never click but always tap? I'm with a MacBook Air 2015 and instantly disabled the clicking, because it requires so much force that tapping is just much faster (and more convenient).
I'm on a Surface Book 2, and I always tap rather than click.
Macbook air does not have force touch ;)
Great comparison overall. Was good to see both laptops up close next to each other.
Like others have said, you didn't mention the touch screen of the Surface Laptop 3. The laptop can actually be connected to to monitors in a number of ways too. Via the type C port, via the surface dock, via a surface adapter etc. I have the Surface Pro 6 and charge it using power delivery and a connect to type C connection cable. I have the Surface dock too, which can be picked up at a good price. It adds a lot of ports and charges the laptop rapidly.
I do agree that the lack of thunderbolt 3 is annoying. It's not a deal breaker for me as I have other laptops that do have Thunderbolt 3 and I have laptops with good graphics cards too, but I know for many people this could be their only laptop so the ability to add an eGPU later is appealing.
That being said. When you take into account the cost of an eGPU, the cost of a graphics card and the fact that eGPUs lose more than 30% due to the lane restrictions; there is a good argument for just buying a big and bulky gaming laptop if you do need more power. The total setup for a good eGPU with a decent card could be four digits. It isn't cheap and it's not always that practical either as there's a ton of driver issues for each device and they aren't hot swappable.
Thanks again for the comparison. Was good to see them both up close :)
#Max Tech which one would be better for watching Netflix, Hulu, and CZcams with?
Sir what is the battery hour for one full charge of mackbook pro
#MaxTech which one would be better for watching Netflix, Hulu, and CZcams with?
Welcome back Kenji ! I miss you.
This was very helpful. Thanks!
So just to confirm, the surface is not able at all to be connected to a TV or something via HDMI converter usb C type dongle? Please verify...
You definitely can.
Since when having a bigger gamut than sRGB makes it better for photo editing? Where did he get the impression that the Mac was more color accurate? All tests (Notebookcheck, displaymate...) are showing it on paar or even better on the Surface.
truthfully, when comparing these 2 laptops, it comes down to OS. Do you want MacOS or Windows? It may come as more of a need in this case. However, I do like the comparison of the hardware :D great job Max!
MacOS is better for work while Windows depends on what type of plan you use. If you use Windows home then it is better for daily life. If you use Windows for business it is better for work. It all comes down to preferences.
I think you need to post a correction on this video re: the capabilities of USB 3.1 it can do dual 4k monitors etc, but you were correct in saying that it cannot do eGPU or thunderbolt 3 docks.
Can u tell me surface has backlit keyboard or not?
There's No Comparison!! Surface is a clear WINNER!!
I don't completely agree, I'm actually a Samsung fan and I dislike apple, but I'm into Editing and Photoshop so I think the Macbook is better for me (obviously I would install Windows 10 in it tho)again, this is just my opinion.
@@jaysalkar6455 so you support windows but dislike the machine?
@@geovannycruz9361 haha so stupid right ? Lol support the "windows" but hate the "Machine" LOL
Abhishek Redwal ok surface fanboy
Genuine Twilight Zone moment, where the Surface 'MagSafe type' power connector is an advantage over a MacBook....
I think the Surface is more reliable and convenient than the Macbook
Yes and it has a touchscreen!
I've had a macbook pro for around years. My girlfriend bought a Microsoft laptop and it had a broken keys and it doesn't charge unless it's laying on the side
Bob ok then she either broke it herself or she got a damaged one. Macbooks have similar issues. I still prefer Microsoft laptops.
@@alwaysonyoutube1261 yeah but do you understand the world reliable? Buying something new that is broken means its unreliable
The butterfly keyboard on the macbook is pretty vulnerable. This is why Apple dropped it this year with the 16 inch pro.
What's the wallpaper of both laptops??
My daughters love the surface for college!!!! I have my first iphone and you helped make my choice. I want to do some photo editing on pictures that will connect to the iphone.
I am an old guy but use my Macbook Pro Retina every day for at least 3 hours /day . It is now 7 years old and performs still flawlessly.None of these modern laptops seem to support SD cards from cameras . I know I am old and probably don't know very much but is the lack of SD slots a negative ?
Sorry for the- extremely late response; but a lot of modern laptops don't really have SD card slots built-in, they do however (including third-party sellers), offer SD card readers or adapters that connect to the very limited selection of ports on the devices, where you can connect your SD card to the adapter, which connects to the laptop :)
Does the surface laptop 3 have a 25 watt cpu?
Thankyou so much! This video really helped me to chose my 2020 pc 👍😊
I have a surface pro 7. I find that the surface has a yellowish display or is it just me? In the video, the surface laptop seems to be a bit yellowish comparing to the macbook pro.
What about battery life??????
Was is the USB C port for if it can be used for all the important things? My HP laptop is the same. Won't for for anything I can find so far.
What are you doing that doesn't support USB-C?
I have a monitor hooked up using the hdmi port and wanted to use the USB C port for a second monitor but i just get an error. Nothing seems to work with the USB port so I am not sure what it’s for. This is a new hp i5 laptop.
@@chrisemry373 Probably just an issue with the drive, I use a usb-c for a monitor at work and it works fine
Thanka
Apparently it’s just a standard port. No video support.
the USB-C port can be connected to docks and to screens, quite easily. The accessories are also much more affordable. That said, it would have been preferable to have Thunderbolt regardless, since you can always use the ordinary Type C accessories anyway, but still, not nearly as bad as it sounds. I should also point out that Surface Connect on the other side can do most of those things (port expansion, video out and so on), so you can actually choose Surface accessories or generic USB-C accessories.
If you can't utilize the USB-C to connector to monitor can you use the usb slot? What would be my alternatives accessories wise?
@@osvaldoespino2813 Well, just to be clear, you CAN use USB-C to connect to the monitor (and even if you need to use it for other things if you buy a USB-C hub). But if for some reason you specifically wanted, you would have the other two ports. You can buy a USB-A to HDMI (or DisplayPort) adapter, or you can use the Microsoft Surface Dock (although I wouldn't recommend it as it's quite expensive and it only supports DisplayPort). So actually, all three ports can output video.
What would you recommend? Link me to accessories!! I appreciate your help.
I simply just want an adapter to display my screen in laptop into monitor for bigger and wider screen.
@@osvaldoespino2813 I don't actually have any of those, so I'd just look on Amazon. You can search "USB-C dock," "USB-A to HDMI" or "USB-A to DisplayPort" (depending on your monitor).
I can get you the link for the Surface Dock though. For my Surface Pro I've just used the miniDisplayPort on the side though, so I haven't needed it until now (I have a Surface Pro 4). Just make sure you don't need HDMI first.
www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/surface-dock/8qrh2npz0s0p?activetab=pivot%3aoverviewtab
what about Battery ??
Ghost noone surface has a 13 or so hour batter idk about the macs
I think it was unfair to compare the reflectivity of both screens (at 5:08) with the Mac having a much darker desktop wallpaper than the Surface and only filming from the side of the Surface when there clearly isn't much difference (at 11:05). Sure there is some difference when looking at the margins between screen and edge, but very minimal.
Could you test this Mac in PC mode with Windows 10?
You can connect a monitor because usb c can also be used as an hdmi replacement
Filip SE how so?
@@tserings2228 USB C to HDMI adapter should work
Questions :
1. Is MS office365 for windows better than the apple version?
2a. Can surface laptop3 i5 model handle heavy excel workload and multitasking?
2b. Hows the touchscreen performance?
3. Is i5 model "significantly" better than i7?
4. Those who have Surface Laptop 2 - still going strong?
5. Microsoft Support - is it good and professional?
6. Any issue of thermal throttling?
7. Which would you choose : Surface Laptop 3 or the new 2019 Dell XPS?
MS office is a Microsoft product you can bet on it being better on a windows laptop. i5 isn't better than i7. Touchscreen is WAY better than a stupid touch bar. Heavy excel work is fine and there shouldn't be any problems. Don't know about tech support cuz I haven't needed it. I have an i5 256gb Surface Laptop 2 and it is still going strong. The laptop rarely gets hot despite being so thin. As for SL3 or XPS it is totally up to you.
You can use the surface dock which gives you all the ports you want and connect multiple screens
What's pro about 128 gigs?
you should have used the same background image on both laptops and a more colorful webstie (like youtube) instead of the main page of google.
C'mon, who uses e-gpu... And on a Mac? Not a dealbreaker for 99% of The buyers.
my macbook prro keyboard is messed up after 4 months lol. Both the T and R keys
What about the spacebar?
@@GIZEMO spacebar is fine. I got my keyboard replaced by apple last summer and has been working fine ever since
@@MIDNightPT4 that’s nice, but im happy that I got a surface the MacBook was good but I prefer windows more :)
For connecting monitors, the only difference between usb 3.1 (I don't care that it's no longer called that) and the thunderbolt 3 is that the latter supports higher resolutions. Usb 3.1 type C still supports video, audio, power, etc
Please do a comparison with hp envy 13
anyone know anything about the image quality ? I do a lot of photo editing
Cameron Dyck mbp: 2560x1600. sp3: 2256x1504
You really should do the research job better. Ofc the surface supports (4k) monitors and docks through USB-C.
thanx, great comparison...:-)
Both need sd card slots already, or at least micro sd.
Yeah, but I doubt they’ll put it again
mac can’t get an Sd card i don’t think
Does the aluminum model for the surface laptop 3 still come with the alkantara wrist rest
For the 13 inch version, the Black and Sandstone aluminum models do NOT have alcantara anywhere on the machines, while the Platinum and Cobalt models have alcantara.
Dope
I guess you forgot the quality issues with the Apple keyboard to the point they are discontinued. What about the fact the Surface is touch screen?
Windows hello is amazing. I Wish Apple would put this on all of their laptops and stop soldering the SSDs to the boards. Windows is definitely doing great things with their hardware. That being said, Thunderbolt 3 would have been really nice on this laptop.
By the way apple's face id showed up after apple bought PrimeSense company which had worked with Microsoft to develop this technology in xbox.
you explanation is good.
I just tried out the Surface 3 Laptop at Best Buy and while the Alcantara fiber was on fleek, the keyboard overall was atrocious. Thin chiclet-style keys a la Apple and the entire keyboard flexed whenever I hit a key in the middle.
Yet here I am, watching this on my Thinkpad T61
Max,you need to fine tune your review from now on.
Please get your fact right. Usb-c can link to external monitor. You will just miss the external GPU.
your video is very very good
What is key travel?
How far the key goes down into the keyboard when you press down on it.
Usually, newer keyboards with short key travel may feel a bit weird and uncomfortable to type on.
Max Tech thanks
Good video but If you're going to compare sizes and screen, you should mention that the surface 3 is touchscreen and slightly larger display, and aspect ratio is 3:2. Also I'm very surprised that you think type c cannot handle multiple displays.
Test Lenovo c940 (latest model) vs macbook pro
10:10 hold up
Didnt the macbook air 2020 have double the 500 sperd
Hey I need a little help guys..
I'm thinking of buying an iPad for mostly Gaming . I have 3 in mind. Can u guys decide which will be the best because I don't want to be outdated quickly also.
1. iPad pro 10.5"(2017) ,wife plus 4g FOR $440. (REFURBISHED)
2.iPad air 3,10.5"(2019),Wi-Fi plus 4g FOR $580.
3.iPad mini 5,7.9"(2019),Wi-Fi plus 4g FOR($509)
I want an iPad which gets updates and is reliable for at least 5 years.
Pls help
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Get the iPad Air for $580 :)
Doesn’t all 10th gen Intel devices have integrated thunderbolt 3
Not yet. Not the early 10th-gen processors.
@Bogodo the 13.5" uses intel
I’m curious to see this comparsion but with the M1 Macbook Air
so surface book 3 is 13.5 inches but MacBook pro is 13 inches just a FYI at 1:15. It would be nice to give correct info specially when doing a side by side size comparison :)
Kash Eb the macbook is 13.3.
If you need Windows, why not choose XPS 13/15??
Maanav Khurana I just shift from Mac to Windows a week ago😂
Dell are known for putting absolute trash in their equipment. Low-speed RAM and storage. The only thing that is usually high end in them is the CPU
@@jamiejones6696 I've used a XPS15 for 3 years now, without any problems what so ever. The SSD is indeed embarrassingly slow. However you can replace both the ram and the SSD + the 4K screen had 100% ish Adobe RGB which is one of the reasons I chose it.
@@Puntonghua Should it really be up to the consumer to replace something when they're paying a premium price?
I will agree on the screen though, they are great for anything creative
@@jamiejones6696 is not a matter of have 2, it's a matter of possibility.
he kept referring the surface laptop to other windows laptops, not the MacBook
Hardware specs can be deceiving, software is a huge part of a laptop as well. It felt as if you weren’t considering the entire package and focused on the specifications. Great video, you earned a new sub.
Surface has a very good over all, but the resell value after a year is a nahhh.
can i do better video and photo editing on surface laptop 3 than macbook pro ?
of course, it's faster in gpu and cpu, has a taller brighter touch screen, better keyboard, upgradeable storage, although apple screen is better at dcpi, they both can still do color critical photos and videos.
Both can use adobe, and a ton of great phot and video apps.
The surface supports a stylus/touchscreen which greatly enhancing photo and video editing and in many cases is better than a mouse or trackpad.
Both have excellent customer support.
However the 16GB version are super expensive.
The 128GB surface 3 laptop is $300 cheaper than the macbook pro, that $300 dollars can do a lot, you can upgrade the ssd yourself to $512 for $80 and have $220 left for a three year warranty and phot and video software.
of course you lose the ability to run final cut, but windows have faster rendering video apps like power director, and the difference in speed between the 8th gen and 10th gen cpu/gpu is very noticeable.
The MacBook Pro still is much faster in editing benchmarks because of it’s dedicated hardware encoder/decoder (The T2 chip). Not the mention the screen is bright, more accurate and supports Wide colour which the surface doesn’t. The MacBook Pro also has faster storage allowing you to playback RAW footage without rencoding
@@VibesInMotion the 10th gen processor have encoding rendering and other video enhancements even apple t2 chip, (which is mostly a security chip that hampers repairs by third parties and an encryption chip), simply cannot compete with.
You can read about them on intel website.
Of course apps will have to be written to take care of them, and they will, and apple themselves will soon use these chips and as shown above, they are substantially faster in major synthetic benchmark apps that test video and cpu, as Max has just shown you.
However, can you show us those cross platform editing apps where the 8th gen macbook pro beats the surface pro, both with i5 and 8gb rams.
I have no problem admitting error, truth always is better.
Max himself said the surface screen was brighter, if I heard him correctly, has a taller aspect ratio for more usable space which you can clearly see, he failed to mention it has full touch and stylus support which can greatly increase the speed and accuracy of both photo and video editing.
Both are color accurate in srgb, the internet standard, Apple has a higher dcip rating, and that does not mean by any stretch that they both cannot do color accurate work, I think one was near 80% and one was near 100%, there is also adobe color space he did not mention, and of course, you can calibrate these screens for even better consistency.
For professional wedding/photographers ,take a photo on a usbc stick to the apple store and microsoft store, or best buy and load your photo on there and see if it meets your standards.
But my main point is if you are doing really serious work, you will do like most, and have a dedicated 4K color accurate monitor at your home or office, which will not only be better for color, but give you more space on screen and for editing, and dual screens for greatly increasing the speed and accuracy of your work flow.
Not to mention on the surface you are never worrying about the keyboard going bad, and have peace knowing you can at any time increase your ssd size yourself for cheap will give you more peace of mind.
For track-pad Apple is unmatched, I am using one now, but just like the screen, both are more than capable of doing a great job, same with the speakers, the macbook is clearer, but both do a great job.
In every benchmark I have seen, the surface is faster, but again both can and will do a good job, and even though the macbook does not have a touch screen, the latest cpu/gpu/ upgradeable ssd/ reliable keyboard/cost $300 more, stylus touch support/magsafe style fast charging/usba,
It can still do a great job, and has the ace of tb3, better trakpad, apple stores everywhere for support, more color accurate screen, is smaller, but slightly heavier, runs final cut and logic/garageband exclusively, and the biggie, it can also run windows, both companies make solid hardware and have great customer support, both machines look sexy, are light and small and are up to the task of excellent photo and video editing.
Get the one that fits your needs best, and that is usually based on a mac or pc preference rather than just hardware, and on what brand phone or tablet you may also have.
Based on Intel's Gen11 graphics architecture, the integrated GPUs come with built-in support for VESA's Adaptive Sync standard - a first for Intel graphics.
According to Intel, the increases in graphics performance with this generation of chips should allow for smooth 1080p gaming in games like Fortnite and Dirt Rally 2, along with more efficient "4K video editing and photo processing".
The final big addition with the 10th Gen is the inclusion of a dedicated instruction set, Deep Learning Boost, for accelerating neural networks and AI workloads. The company claims up to 1 teraflop of GPU engine compute performance for "sustained, high-throughput inference applications like video stylization, analytics and real-time video."
The company has also included a dedicated engine for background AI tasks like voice processing and noise suppression.
Intel says it expects 35 new laptop and 2-in-1 designs to debut with 10th Gen Ice Lake chips through the end of the year.
We've already seen a preview of some of these, including Dell's new XPS 13 2-in-1 7390. Outside of laptops, expect the 10th Gen "Ice Lake" range to debut for other portions of the PC market, including desktops, over the next year.
@@Tigerex966 Max didn't actually do any tests of the actual exact brightness, other sources say the MacBook Pro 13 inch is far brighter(518nit vs 416.9nit), more colour accurate with a DeltaE max of 2.8 vs the far worse display of Surface laptop's DeltaE max of 6.64. (Source Notebookcheck) The MBP also features support for the rec.2020 colour space which is becoming increasingly important for content creation for newer platforms.
As for the power of the surface vs the MacBook Pro, there haven't been any tests that I could find comparing the 4 core cpu in the surface vs the 4 core cpu in the MacBook Pro, but the 4 core i7-1065G7 in the 15 inch surface which is more powerful was compared MacBook Pro 13 inch and lost. The MacBook Pro 13 Inch was able to transcode the 4K test file in 14:42 compared to the laptop with 16GB ram and the 4 core i7-1065G7 which took 24:49. (Source LaptopMag) The MacBook Pro is still far less powerful than that 4 core processor but it was still able to best it in encoding. The Surface Laptop just can't compete with the MacBook Pro in terms of video work and the MacBook Pros lead on the Surface will only increase when using high complexity footage such as HEVC and HEIF.
Edit: One last point to add on
"The company has also included a dedicated engine for background AI tasks like voice processing and noise suppression."
The MacBook Pro has something similar to this in the T2 chip which handles Siri and active noise cancelling
" upgradeable ssd"
The surface doesn't have a user replaceable ssd and right now Microsoft doesn't allow upgrades at their stores. If you decide you really want an upgrade of your storage you lose your warranty so it might as well be a soldered SSD
That red wallpaper 👌
In my opinion this kind of comparison does not make any sense... People buy Mac for MacOs experience. In other case people used to work with Windows or Gamers will never buy Mac. You should be comparing machines with the same OS.
5:55 why Surface screen is so green?
It's the camera.
The angle its filmed
Wait... isn’t that guy from AppleInsider?
I'm using a Mac at work, and man this huge trackpad is annoying AF
@@vertatur8076 sad for you that your laptop doesn't have good palm rejection :v
@@vertatur8076 how cute :v
I thought I'm the only one that is annoyed by MacBook trackpad every time I type something I touch it and it's very annoying
Hardcore Macs users say it's because of multitouch gestures but seriously it's a nightmare. I too am required to use one for certain tasks. The older MB trackpads have no issues.
The surface is 13.5” and pro is 13”