I've been wearing the San Martin V2 for about a week now and I absolutely love it. I think you nailed this comparison. Both watches have pros and cons.
The two watches are made in the same factory. Each brand owner specifies detail, and the brand owner who purchases the most watches will get a better price. I own two San Martin watches, and three Heimdallr. For the price difference there is very little in it
Ordered and am waiting for the San Martin(black) Sub V2 - want to compare it with my No Date Sub - $8,100(with tax) to a $225(with tax) upscale homage. Thought about throwing in a Parnis but that would be unfair to the max.
Have had both watches for some time now and both are great. The fit and finish on the Rolex is superior in every way but just, the brushed surfaces are satin smooth and the polished areas are perfect. The San Martin(SM) is just a grade below all area look good but feel a bit less refined. The dial on the Rolex shows no imperfections with the SM the is a small printing error in the 'S' and 'a' of San. The lume is identical in brightness and longevity. The Roles is 0 SPD in accuracy out of the box, the SM was +20 SPD and I regulated it to +4 on a timegrapher. The bracelets are very similar with the clasps being different. The Rolex 'glidelock' is very smooth and allows on the fly adjustments. The SM milled clasp is well above most Chinese watches that I have, it is comfortable with micro adjustments. I can see no difference in the crystals, the Rolex is a no date and the SM has a cyclops which appears to be in the 2.5 range(works as expected). The Rolex is 300m and the SM 200m WR which means nothing to me as I don't dive - both should offer great daily water protection. The Rolex total cost was $8,033.00US with tax and I expect it to hold value or increase. The SM was $209.00US. I wear the SM daily and rarely wear the Rolex(special nights out which are few this year). It's hard to see the $8,000 difference once you get past the homage factor, a few more dollars in the SM with a better movement, QC on the printing and original design and it would be hard to justify the Swiss brands. Other micros are doing it and get great reviews. I'm glad I own both. P.S. Waiting on the SM titanium 'B' pilot watch. Arrived in country today so just the USPS to deliver.
I don't have any experience of the Heimdallr, but I do have the San Martin, and I think it's a fantastic watch for the money. It's running at -2s a day. Absolutely banging watch. 👌🏼
Great review! This comparison sealed the deal for me, San Martin it is.. Only thing is, I wish they would use their brand logo instead of writing out the name. But I can live with it
Paul Drake I like the old San Martin logo name but they will not offer it as an option only if you pay for the custom logo. I wish they would put the stainless San Martin logo like on some of their other watches. I do not think they really did any other changes. Search CZcams there is one guy that has done a review on it already.
Ivgot the green san martin v1, its finishing and quality is top notch. Imo the v1 much better made then the v2. The clasp much better, the bracelet thinner, lume pipe on the bezel is like the one on the himdiler. The only down side is the polish center link.
Will you eat the sandwich in the next video ;) I did order the Heimdallr and I am sure that I will be pleased with it. If you take the price difference (Heimdallr is now on discount) into consideration, what is the best deal?
You can buy 4 san martin for the price of 1 Ginault. Would say Ginault is competing more with brands like Yema. In-house movements, around 1000 to 1200 dollars.
@@kasperpetersen6856 I agree that its a completely other price point - I just thought it could be interesting if someone put them head to head. The host mentioned the Heimdallr as being the best sub homage in another video, a title that has been given to the Ginault. I have not touched any of the watches yet. Ps. Danish?
Great review! The 3 lines of text at the bottom (including the 1000ft=300m line like a real Sub) looks so much better, I just wish it said something other than “water resistant”, which just sounds cheap to me for some reason. I also love a decorated rehaut, but the etching looks cheap compared to a proper engraving and I don’t love the Heimdallr name or logo so having it repeated isn’t great. A few tweaks there and it would be a lot more tempting. Even if those were improved, it’s still hard to argue when you look at the lume, clasp, and bezel, which I hope is consistent across all the SMs. One thing that’s interesting to me is that the round marker at 12 looks too big on the Heimdallr relative to the triangle while the SM seems to be a better size. The larger one is true to the real Sub, though, and I never noticed it before until looking at these two side by side.
As far as I know both Heimdallr and SanMartin are produced at the same factory. Is my info right or wrong? And if you compare the two watches I also want to have a look on the price. SanMartin is much more expensive than Heimdallr.
Everyone seems to have an issue with the large size of the Pagani Hulk Submariner ... curiously I don't. I don't know if it is because my wrist is 7.5 or because I don't have multiple Submariner homages in various sizes to compare it to. Now I do get that the quality control of the San Martin, Heimdallr, Steinhart etc. Are better than Pagani but their prices are also significantly higher so I would expect the quality to be spot on.
@@watchmegobroke4365 agree and other brands (like the two in the video) have progressed the homages and filled that niche (Pagani seems to have moved on from the Submariner homage - i.e. they have made 40mm but in different styles - but agree that a 40mm Hulk Submariner would be better .. that and improve the lum) but at the time it came out it was a great spec watch (even at the large size) especially for the price.
@Noggsy joggsy watches I'm not at the Rolex level yet but have the aforementioned 43mm Hulk Pagani, Casio Duro, Vostok Amphibian, and the Parnis GMT (similar water rating as the Pagani), around the holidays I am also going to pick up the Steeldive or Heimdallr Captain Willard. Thereafter it will be a Zelos, Helm and the Bronze San Martin I mentioned. Idea is to have a mix of styles and looks.
@Noggsy joggsy watches I liked the 200m water resistance of the Amphibia (I got the blue submarine and put it on an orange silicone strap - in the holidays I may also get the Antarctica caseback) but i also own a komandirskie which is also cool for its kitsch styles. Apparently they are all easy to self regulate, easy to mod and very rugged. They also make some other cool styles - in particular I've seen a cool full dial lum version and a nice GMT version. Check out meranom's website (many are not available right now due to the corona virus) but then look on Ebay for cheaper and faster delivery.
I enjoyed your review. Personally, the things you're giving extra points to the Heimdallr for over the San Martin are the exact reasons why I'd take away points from the Heimdallr. The older Rolex dials had less text, looked very clean and there was no engraving on the rehaut. So, from a homage perspective, the San Martin is closer to the original subs of yesteryear. But this is your channel and you will say whatever you want, misguided or otherwise. That's part of your charm. I have this particular San Martin and I have to say, that lume kicks butt, even with watches costing 10 times the price. It's crazy. This watch does everything I need and looks great. It really looks great on a dark green perlon strap and is very comfortable that way during the summer months. Thanks for taking the time.
Agree with you totally re taking points off San Martin for the bracelet which looks like it smashes the other. The other had sticking links and all. Like you say his channel and opinion - overall a decent comparison though.
both watches cant match the white color of the lume on the hands with the hour markers. why cant they get this right. even cheap watches match the lume on the hands with the hour markers
The H and T are silent ;) I'm struggling to find an english example on how to pronunce the " re ". You guys certainly heard it anyway, I'm thinking of the " er " of " proper ", pronunced in reverse x)
Come on, the San Martin is the better watch, hands down. The bezel is tested in three other reviews and the Heimdallr has issues, big issues. The bracelet of the San Martin is better. The pin and collar of the Heimdallr is a nightmare. There is an ugly gap between the bracelet and the end link of the Heimdallr. The lume of the San Martin is way better. Nice try Heimdallr. San Martin is the obvious winner.
I have both, the lume on the Heimdallr is as good. The Heimdallr has a more elegant bezel with skinnier numbers in silver. I have put the SM bracelet on the Heimdallr and it is a perfect match.
wish more reviews took time to test water resistance, I bought a 62mas Heimdallr and in a week of swimming got water inside (wr 300mt), sent it back and I'm still upset cause it was looking amazing, but what's the point of a diver of you can't even swim.
I just bought a used, but in mint condition Sub homage San Martin Hulk, and the machining finish is the best Iv'e seen coming out of China! And personally, I prefer the chapter ring without the makers logo going around it, as it looks a little gimmicky, in my humble opinion.
Pin and collar SUCKS. It’s not the best way for a bracelet. Anybody who thinks it’s better than screw pins has got a screw pin of their own loose. Screw pins much easier just as secure or more secure . And that’s Final!!!!
As far as (Affordable) homage watches couldn't agree more think either will give you that big dog feeling . But as far as the best homage period would have to be the Ginault O.R.2 . Yes it's over a thousand dollars but it's as close is you're going to get to the real thing under 2 thousand.
Giving the SanMartin a 6 for dial is Ridiculous. You’re giving it a 6 because of less text. And that’s very subjective it’s not clear-cut. Like a poor finish or a good finish. You get a 2 in comparison video for using subjective and personal likes and dislikes to score the content. 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻. LOL JUST HAVING FUN
@@watchmegobroke4365 I really like your stile and content. I guess you can choose if you want the ads to be shown before and after. Instead of in the middle. Would like to see a full video from you again😁
I just received my San Martin and it's insane! Not just the best Rolex Sub homage under 1000, but the best watch at the price point!
I've been wearing the San Martin V2 for about a week now and I absolutely love it. I think you nailed this comparison. Both watches have pros and cons.
What a great comparison video. “And the 💩💩🥪 goes to ...”. Please make more videos (and no need to apologize for your opinions).
The two watches are made in the same factory. Each brand owner specifies detail, and the brand owner who purchases the most watches will get a better price. I own two San Martin watches, and three Heimdallr. For the price difference there is very little in it
@Noggsy joggsy watches The San Martin is a little better, but Heimdallr is still good.
san martin my fav .... cheers
Pretty sure these come out of the same factory.
Ordered and am waiting for the San Martin(black) Sub V2 - want to compare it with my No Date Sub - $8,100(with tax) to a $225(with tax) upscale homage. Thought about throwing in a Parnis but that would be unfair to the max.
Please let us know when you get it and can make a good judgement on a comparison.
Looking forward to an update!
Have had both watches for some time now and both are great. The fit and finish on the Rolex is superior in every way but just, the brushed surfaces are satin smooth and the polished areas are perfect. The San Martin(SM) is just a grade below all area look good but feel a bit less refined. The dial on the Rolex shows no imperfections with the SM the is a small printing error in the 'S' and 'a' of San. The lume is identical in brightness and longevity. The Roles is 0 SPD in accuracy out of the box, the SM was +20 SPD and I regulated it to +4 on a timegrapher. The bracelets are very similar with the clasps being different. The Rolex 'glidelock' is very smooth and allows on the fly adjustments. The SM milled clasp is well above most Chinese watches that I have, it is comfortable with micro adjustments. I can see no difference in the crystals, the Rolex is a no date and the SM has a cyclops which appears to be in the 2.5 range(works as expected). The Rolex is 300m and the SM 200m WR which means nothing to me as I don't dive - both should offer great daily water protection. The Rolex total cost was $8,033.00US with tax and I expect it to hold value or increase. The SM was $209.00US. I wear the SM daily and rarely wear the Rolex(special nights out which are few this year). It's hard to see the $8,000 difference once you get past the homage factor, a few more dollars in the SM with a better movement, QC on the printing and original design and it would be hard to justify the Swiss brands. Other micros are doing it and get great reviews. I'm glad I own both. P.S. Waiting on the SM titanium 'B' pilot watch. Arrived in country today so just the USPS to deliver.
@@jims4539 Thanks for taking the time to do the comparison.
Superb! Can you review the 'SteeldiveSD1954' against these two, please? atb snack.
I am thinking of buying the same watch, but can't seem to find many good reviews.
Just got one too in the mail
Ivan Jaros it’s actually pretty similar to the new submariner lol with the new dimensions and new crown guard and new smaller lugs
I am waiting after the San Martin, with customized dial... 🤞
Steeldive 1953 too. Thank you
Fabulous ... just fabulous. Thanks for this terrufic video.
I don't have any experience of the Heimdallr, but I do have the San Martin, and I think it's a fantastic watch for the money. It's running at -2s a day. Absolutely banging watch. 👌🏼
mine had +5 per day. Than ist Fell on the Ground. Now it has +30 a day 😳
Ordered a San Marin sub with a leather strap a week or so ago. Still waiting for it to arrive.
Great review! This comparison sealed the deal for me, San Martin it is.. Only thing is, I wish they would use their brand logo instead of writing out the name. But I can live with it
I thought the same thing. They do it on other models.
You can have them print whatever text you want as the logo. Maybe customize it
Version 3 is now out. It has the logo, but I'm not sure it's an improvement
Paul Drake I like the old San Martin logo name but they will not offer it as an option only if you pay for the custom logo. I wish they would put the stainless San Martin logo like on some of their other watches. I do not think they really did any other changes. Search CZcams there is one guy that has done a review on it already.
V3 now offers the logo on the dial. I have V2 and prefer the name written out. I wish it was a serif font... but it's really nice and clean.
I have the "Heimdallr" and I am very happy with it.
Nice job on the comparisons. Like the style of your delivery. Well done 👍
Ivgot the green san martin v1, its finishing and quality is top notch.
Imo the v1 much better made then the v2.
The clasp much better, the bracelet thinner, lume pipe on the bezel is like the one on the himdiler.
The only down side is the polish center link.
Ditto
Will you eat the sandwich in the next video ;) I did order the Heimdallr and I am sure that I will be pleased with it. If you take the price difference (Heimdallr is now on discount) into consideration, what is the best deal?
10/10 for that intro,it is the true winner.
The silly intro alone compelled me to subscribe, but the rest of the video nailed the decision. Thanks for the experience.
I have been wearing my San Martin(black) Sub V2 for almost a month and I love it!
Would be interested in a Cronos vs San Martin (newest version). Good video!
One that I would like to see - Ginault Ocean Rover vs. San Martin or Heimdallr.
You can buy 4 san martin for the price of 1 Ginault. Would say Ginault is competing more with brands like Yema. In-house movements, around 1000 to 1200 dollars.
@@kasperpetersen6856 I agree that its a completely other price point - I just thought it could be interesting if someone put them head to head. The host mentioned the Heimdallr as being the best sub homage in another video, a title that has been given to the Ginault. I have not touched any of the watches yet. Ps. Danish?
Great review! The 3 lines of text at the bottom (including the 1000ft=300m line like a real Sub) looks so much better, I just wish it said something other than “water resistant”, which just sounds cheap to me for some reason. I also love a decorated rehaut, but the etching looks cheap compared to a proper engraving and I don’t love the Heimdallr name or logo so having it repeated isn’t great. A few tweaks there and it would be a lot more tempting. Even if those were improved, it’s still hard to argue when you look at the lume, clasp, and bezel, which I hope is consistent across all the SMs.
One thing that’s interesting to me is that the round marker at 12 looks too big on the Heimdallr relative to the triangle while the SM seems to be a better size. The larger one is true to the real Sub, though, and I never noticed it before until looking at these two side by side.
Heimdallr 7/10 - san martin 9/10
Manscape those wrists ... lol. I do mine in topiary shapes ... duck, rabbit, rearing lion ... what do you mean TMI?
As far as I know both Heimdallr and SanMartin are produced at the same factory. Is my info right or wrong? And if you compare the two watches I also want to have a look on the price. SanMartin is much more expensive than Heimdallr.
Everyone seems to have an issue with the large size of the Pagani Hulk Submariner ... curiously I don't. I don't know if it is because my wrist is 7.5 or because I don't have multiple Submariner homages in various sizes to compare it to.
Now I do get that the quality control of the San Martin, Heimdallr, Steinhart etc. Are better than Pagani but their prices are also significantly higher so I would expect the quality to be spot on.
Karl Senula Agreed. I like pagani, but would have liked to see the green in 40mm.
@@watchmegobroke4365 agree and other brands (like the two in the video) have progressed the homages and filled that niche (Pagani seems to have moved on from the Submariner homage - i.e. they have made 40mm but in different styles - but agree that a 40mm Hulk Submariner would be better .. that and improve the lum) but at the time it came out it was a great spec watch (even at the large size) especially for the price.
@Noggsy joggsy watches a bronze San Martin is definitely on my 'to get' list .. but it is a list of at least 8-10 watches.
@Noggsy joggsy watches I'm not at the Rolex level yet but have the aforementioned 43mm Hulk Pagani, Casio Duro, Vostok Amphibian, and the Parnis GMT (similar water rating as the Pagani), around the holidays I am also going to pick up the Steeldive or Heimdallr Captain Willard. Thereafter it will be a Zelos, Helm and the Bronze San Martin I mentioned. Idea is to have a mix of styles and looks.
@Noggsy joggsy watches I liked the 200m water resistance of the Amphibia (I got the blue submarine and put it on an orange silicone strap - in the holidays I may also get the Antarctica caseback) but i also own a komandirskie which is also cool for its kitsch styles. Apparently they are all easy to self regulate, easy to mod and very rugged.
They also make some other cool styles - in particular I've seen a cool full dial lum version and a nice GMT version. Check out meranom's website (many are not available right now due to the corona virus) but then look on Ebay for cheaper and faster delivery.
Heimdallr rules !
I agree.
Cool dude.
I enjoyed your review. Personally, the things you're giving extra points to the Heimdallr for over the San Martin are the exact reasons why I'd take away points from the Heimdallr. The older Rolex dials had less text, looked very clean and there was no engraving on the rehaut. So, from a homage perspective, the San Martin is closer to the original subs of yesteryear. But this is your channel and you will say whatever you want, misguided or otherwise. That's part of your charm. I have this particular San Martin and I have to say, that lume kicks butt, even with watches costing 10 times the price. It's crazy. This watch does everything I need and looks great. It really looks great on a dark green perlon strap and is very comfortable that way during the summer months.
Thanks for taking the time.
Agree with you totally re taking points off San Martin for the bracelet which looks like it smashes the other. The other had sticking links and all. Like you say his channel and opinion - overall a decent comparison though.
Are you a stand up comedian ??😲😲😲
You Channel name made me laugh. Subbed.
Preference between a San martin submariner and the Steeldive submariner? (After you change the clasp on the steeldive of course)
Have not gotten my hands on the Steel Dive yet.
both watches cant match the white color of the lume on the hands with the hour markers.
why cant they get this right. even cheap watches match the lume on the hands with the hour markers
Should have reviewed the crystal. Are they both sapphire?
Yes they are
Some one needs to conpare the san martin case and bracelet to steinhart and squale subs
there are videos of that on CZcams
Only thing I dislike a bit about the San Martin is the indices look a bit yellow because of the lume.
They should have lumed the bezel with the same lume. Then it wouldn’t be noticeable.
They should have lumed the bezel with the same lume. Then it wouldn’t be noticeable.
@@watchmegobroke4365 Yes.
Rehaut (not reholt). Rehaut is the French word for flange. (The correct pronunciation is; rehort). Regards.
The H and T are silent ;)
I'm struggling to find an english example on how to pronunce the " re ". You guys certainly heard it anyway, I'm thinking of the " er " of " proper ", pronunced in reverse x)
Of course San Martin
I have it ;)
Come on, the San Martin is the better watch, hands down. The bezel is tested in three other reviews and the Heimdallr has issues, big issues. The bracelet of the San Martin is better. The pin and collar of the Heimdallr is a nightmare. There is an ugly gap between the bracelet and the end link of the Heimdallr. The lume of the San Martin is way better. Nice try Heimdallr. San Martin is the obvious winner.
I have both, the lume on the Heimdallr is as good. The Heimdallr has a more elegant bezel with skinnier numbers in silver. I have put the SM bracelet on the Heimdallr and it is a perfect match.
Cronos is the only other Chinese watch company that comes close to San Martin.
True!
did someone test the water resistant of a san martin or a heimdallr?
wish more reviews took time to test water resistance, I bought a 62mas Heimdallr and in a week of swimming got water inside (wr 300mt), sent it back and I'm still upset cause it was looking amazing, but what's the point of a diver of you can't even swim.
How about the price comparison?
Heimdaller cyclops has better magnification. So 58 ;-)
Can you post a link to the jubilee bracelet on your Timex Q?
Bille Johnsen Gilden Unisex Jubilee-Style... www.amazon.com/dp/B01N37Q94R?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share it’s showing not available at the moment.
Watch Me Go Broke Thanks mate. Just got the Timex Q and i would like to get a Perfect fit jubilee for that!
San martin has the best in quality and needs to add a chapter ring like the heimdallr....
I just bought a used, but in mint condition Sub homage San Martin Hulk, and the machining finish is the best Iv'e seen coming out of China!
And personally, I prefer the chapter ring without the makers logo going around it, as it looks a little gimmicky, in my humble opinion.
Pin and collar SUCKS. It’s not the best way for a bracelet. Anybody who thinks it’s better than screw pins has got a screw pin of their own loose. Screw pins much easier just as secure or more secure . And that’s Final!!!!
As far as (Affordable) homage watches couldn't agree more think either will give you that big dog feeling . But as far as the best homage period would have to be the Ginault O.R.2 . Yes it's over a thousand dollars but it's as close is you're going to get to the real thing under 2 thousand.
PhD Whorologist?!.... U da man!!!!. Seriously though, thinking about a "hulk" San Martin. Alot for the 💰. Very good watches avail @$200 range.
Giving the SanMartin a 6 for dial is Ridiculous. You’re giving it a 6 because of less text. And that’s very subjective it’s not clear-cut. Like a poor finish or a good finish. You get a 2 in comparison video for using subjective and personal likes and dislikes to score the content. 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻. LOL JUST HAVING FUN
Ads in the middel of the video😡.... and paused... unsubscribed!
Dragn Yeah I agree with you. CZcams started doing that automatically about a month ago.
@@watchmegobroke4365 I really like your stile and content.
I guess you can choose if you want the ads to be shown before and after. Instead of in the middle. Would like to see a full video from you again😁
Dragn Thanks!
Gross , these are actually people who like all the font lol wow , I have found the dude who likes this crap.