The 2021 Toyota 4Runner Venture Edition Is The TRD PRO For 90% Of People
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- čas přidán 8. 12. 2020
- So we’re all pretty familiar with the 4Runner by now, but this Venture Special Edition trim I have here is relatively new
It’s somewhat of a concession from Toyota to get people to keep interest in a very old product
But does Toyota even need to do this? The 4Runner has a cult following from offroaders, adventurers and overlanders.
All those people are most familiar with the most rugged 4runner from factory, the TRDPRO
However, that TRD PRo is over 50k if you can get one at MSRP
So at under 45k, and the lack of dealer makeup make the venture special edition a good alternative
We’re starting behind the wheel and I want to address one of the most compelling things this venture trim brings the TRD PRo doesn't as much.
A mild road presence
You get the TRD specific wheels here, but you swap out the bigger all-terrain tires that come on the TRD PRO for a more road-ready all season tire
What that does is reduce road noise and tire roar, but it also means you can feel things through the steering wheel.
If you’ve ever driven a trd pro or even a jeep wrangler Rubicon it feels like driving a boat - the steering is so numb that you’re like “well i need to go left so I’ll turn left and hope the truck goes where I need it to”
Throttle response is relatively decent. It’s a big 4.0 V6 that makes 270hp and 278 lbft so as far as power goes you wont be winning drag races, but it’s enough for offroading
Here’s the issue I take with the 4Runner. It still uses a 5 speed automatic which is the reason fuel economy is less than stellar - 16 city 19 highway WHAT HAVE I BEEN GETTING
Ultimately, the ride is shockingly good on the road which is where this will spend the vast majority of its life. There is still some road noise that seeps in, but the driving manners are excellent for something like a body on frame offroad SUV
Now I won’t go into every design element here, but what I will say is overall I think the design fits the personality of the truck. It’s boxy and classic looking and gives you the sense it can go places, though I would like auto led headlights
Now starting up front there are 2 major things this doesn't have that you’ll miss from the TRD PRO
Painted skidplate - STILL HAS ONE over engine and transfer case and front suspension
Then you have the grille - compare TRD grille to raptor grille
However, the venture trim has all your blacked out badge needs covered
Around the side you also get blacked out wing mirrors and door handles
And the black TRD Pro wheels i like so much
Again we talk tires - same size as the TRD PRo but not all terrains
The Yakima roof basket is specific to the Venture as well while the TRD PRO gets a different rack system
Annoying to some is the lack of badging on the C pillar that we see with all the TRDs
Around back its pretty standard fare except
Black spoiler
Black badge
Black mustache
Now before we go inside I want to address the elephant in the room. From a utility perspective, the only thing the Venture trim doesn’t have that the TRD PRO does is the all-terrain tires and Fox shocks
Both have a 9.6 inch clearance
Both have 33 degree approach and 26 degree departure
Both have the same tech features, crawl control, terrain select, hill start
So in complete honesty, since you have more road going tires and less crazy dampers what you end up with 90% of the capability of the TRD PRO with 4x the comfort
We’re going to start with the trunk and there are several goodies back here.
My favorite is the rear window that goes down - handy for small things and easy to film from
This one is optioned with the trunk tray with more storage underneath - it’s nice
You also get cargo netting and all that
You actually have a reasonably sized trunk here
47 cuft with seats up, they go 40/20/40 and then 89 cuft
PLus the roof basket included - lots of storage
The rear seats are roomy enough, but even with the roof cutout my headroom is tight
You sit up really high cuz of the frame
Rear climate vents
Then up front it reminds you that it’s old and it’s trucky
Big buttons
Super tactile inputs
The touchscreen infotainment is optioned up in size
ACP AA
Steering wheel is the same as taco and tundra
It’s a little snug, but comfy
Fake leather has TRD logo on headrests
Visibility is great, vertical glass, but more aerodynamic that a wrangler
Overall conveys the sense of capability and ruggedness throughout the design
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Locking differential??
Just got my ‘21 Venture Special Edition a week and a half ago and love it! (I drove a Tacoma for 13 years). I was also stoked to find that my Venture came with the silver skid plate with red “TRD”!!! Woot! Thanks for your video! 😊
I just bought this vehicle in silver on black. It's my first 4-runner and I just gotta say it's the best vehicle I've ever had/driven. It's interesting that he didn't mention how good this stock suspension feels both on the road and over bumps. It was the first thing I noticed. It just feels premium. I'm so happy I chose the Venture package especially the Silver on black, it looks soo good!!!
Thank you Toyota!!!!!
I’ll take stellar reliability and insane resale value over fuel costs. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it 😎
@Mctrician2 couldn’t agree more!!! I’m at 18.5 mpg with a small lift and Nitto Ridge Grapplers. Now.... if only the corners of my bumper cover would stay fully clipped 😂 (that’s the only issue I’ve ever had in 45,000 miles/ 2 years)
My last longer road trip, I was able to milk 21mpg in my 2021 trd off road. Was pretty happy with that, my average in town and stuff is right around 17.5
Bought the venture '21 then watched this video. Guess I made a good choice!
indeed you did
me too yup.
Mine is coming in sept 16th. Super pumped. All back
Funny you kept praising the street tires and that’s the first (possibly only) thing I’d change.
SAME!!
I don't mind em. Unless you're getting crazy enjoy em and swap em out when needed.
Until you realize that 99% of the time you drive on the street, and all terrain tires give you a headache from listening to them howl so loud that you have to blare the radio to drown out the road noise they create lol. Every time I've convinced myself I needed a more aggressive tire I eventually regretted it.
@@sabresys45 I'm rocking the stock Duellers. Have 2,000 miles on them and probably half of that is dirt, mud, loose rock, snow, or sand. They've performed pretty amazing. Only been one big hill at the sand dunes that I couldn't make it up. I think with more attempts and better technique i could've made it but the sand was deep and was afraid of the depth on the other side and chargin hard but bot being able to make it back out lol. So i hit other dunes and trails and will attempt another weekend.
Handled 99% of the above and been a super comfortable well handling ride on the twisties to the trailhead locations.
Edit: forgot to add i only aired down to 28 psi. Probably could've gotten way better sand performance at 15 - 20 lbs just didn't have a compressor on hand..
@@sabresys45 If your are really picky , perhaps you get a set of the off road wheel and tires for weekends whenever you decide to go off the road , and have those regulars for normal road driving as provably be 90 to 99 % of the time. I personally do it and get the skip plate or provably fabricate one, even thicker.
Great review and Analysis. I have a 2016 TRD Pro and just got a 2021 Venture. The overall review is great and the review on the tires is spot on! For normal driving around town and on the highway, the tires on the Venture are easier to live with so far.
Awesome! Glad you liked the video and thanks for watching!
Bro, I just went shopping for a TRD Pro and was given this option. I 100% agree with your review. The more and more I use the Venture the more I realize I have a unique slick looking 4Runner Pro with a twist. I upgraded my tires so now it is the suspension and TRD Pro advertising which I didn’t want in the first place. In love with my Venture!
Love the honesty. You’re right, 90% of people just like the look of the TRD Pro and don’t really “need” its features. I know that I fall into that category. Toyota nailed this one on the head.
agree! thanks for watching!
Very thorough and informative. Thanks @Downshift
Thanks for watching!
Yup, bought the '21 Venture and love it. It's our 5th 4Runner and probably the best. Don't forget to mention the first ever LED lighting package. HUGE upgrade...but this is across the board in the 4Runner lineup.
Pretty sure it doesn't have LED high beams like the TRD Pro.
@@RallyRanch Correct. LED lows and fogs only.
@@FastnFuriousCDN but easier too change out the highbeams with led where as in the pro both low and high r in one unit so again venture wins again
@@westcoast708 sounds like someone is bitter they can’t afford the PRO lmao
personally think the venture has a better look js and by the way if I wanted the pro I would have gotten it but thx I'm good .
Just got my 2021 Venture with KDSS today. A beast!
Several sources gave said the venture doesn't com equipped with kdss. Did you build your own or add after?
@@ShogunateDaimyo It’s an option that some come already equipped with. The one we’re purchasing had it optioned.
@@toobsguy where are you located?
Got mine today! It’s in transit! Can’t wait!!!
Congrats!
Well..... How do you like it?
I have a 2021 4runner venture in white lovey it and it turns heads js .
I bought a 2021 TRD venture. In Canada you get the side pillar badges. Also KDSS and a sunroof. I love the truck. If you like the pro grill you can buy a aftermarket pro grill. The heritage look is amazing. Only issue is the gas consumption. But with the resale value and the reliability the gas consumption can be easily overlooked. The venture edition is a very special vechicle.
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How many kms do you manage on one full tank?
I bought one a week ago but it's missing the slider on the back. I wonder if I can get that installed? Other than I love my 4 runner.
most 4runners don't go offroad anyway, but still the best vehicle ever known to man
I went for the 2020 Venture. Love it so far.
That’s awesome 😎
I got the skid plate and the black chrome exhaust on my venture edition.
Can you post a video of it?? I think that's exactly what I want.
I have Goodyear fuel max tires on my 2000 jeep wj with the 4.7 and the tires haven't prevented me from doing anything that I've needed to do with it. I pulled trees and logs with it.
Good things to know, really thought we lost out on the trd pro. We bought 21 venture, not used to the high rolls on the truck. Had a lowered van before owning this one. A lot to get used to,
Great video. I went with the Venture myself last year and it’s great! One nice note is the ability to take out the roof basket and still have the roof rails compared to the Pro. Took mine out and makes it easier to clean the roof and fit in the garage. Can easily put it back if needed for camping trips. Just got a TRD skid plate and it was about $200. Simple upgrade.
One thing the TRD PRO comes with that the other TRD/Venture models don't is remote start. Everything else (skid plate, rims, grill, shocks, etc) can be bought form toyota post purchase for noticeably less than if you optioned them with it. (speaking from experience)
Also better JBL sounds system with sub-woofer and dual auto climate control.
@@ShogunateDaimyo Those too. Also pretty sure 2018s+ have auto headlights right? Not auto highbeams but the TRD PRO swiped the daylight sensor from the Limited. Offroads don't have it. There's a bunch of tiny features that nobody lists, hence my comment.
If you option in the KDSS, the front TRD Pro skid plate can’t be installed because of the extra space the hydraulics and hardware for the KDSS.
@@toobsguy interesting. You'd think they make the skid plate in a way that still allows the kdss. However the skid plate was originally only intended for the TRD Pro which doesn't have the kdss as an option. According to Dan Edmunds a suspension tech who created a video on YT about the system the Pro doesn't need it.
Im buying a Red venture 4runner in 2 days. Love it
That’s sick congrats 😎👍
i got the 2021 venture in black and love it
That’s awesome 😎👌
Just got my white Venture last week - absolutely love it. The KDSS makes such a huge difference on the road. Admittedly, there will be little off-road duty, but it feels so well-made, safe, and just begs to find something fun to do. It's the first time I've been emotionally attached to a vehicle and can't wait to send my 5-year-old off to college in it!
Lucky! I can’t find any that aren’t reserved.
I am not a 4Runner owner yet, but in my research phase. The other difference between the Venture and TRD Pro, is that the latter has a 15 speaker premium JBL sound system, vs. a more basic 8 speaker system. From what I've seen, TRD Pro's have a subwoofer installed in the rear. I'm not sure if a sub is included in the Venture''s sound system. I'd love to hear more on this from anyone. Would you say that this improvement helps justify how much more the TRD Pro costs ?
I had similar thoughts. Add the higher resale value and better shocks and the pro starts to make sense.
Pro also has Dual Zone Auto Climate Control, and now, Remote Start/Remote Connect trial.
Not sure what kind of “roaring” road noise you’re exaggerating about from the Pro. I have a 2021 Pro...road noise?
And the Fox suspension gives it an almost marshmallow soft ride.
The exhaust on the pro is louder than the venture and the tire road noise is a bit more. I have a 21 venture and my neighbor has a 21 pro and it is noticeable but not “roaring”
I went with the pro I had to have the lunar rock color.
Nice! I just had the tundra trd pro in lunar rock. Those things is badass
I wish they had the voodoo blue in 2021 ..going with a black venture..cant find a pro anywhere as soon as one comes up its sold !!
I have the 2020 trd pro in Army Green, and I couldn't be happier! I Haven't had the opportunity to see the 2021 4runner pro in Lunar Rock in person yet, but I keep looking.
@@michaellloyd7940 nice! The army green is my favorite 😍 with yellow fog lights
@@dwnshft Just order one, that’s what I did.
Ca. Here our dealer mark ups are 10/20k for a Pro........ insane! Keep them.
Hey I’ve a great idea, get an SR5 , put Front and Rear lockers (you’ve already got traction control) ,throw on the TRD wheels, shocks, and TRD roof rack....then call it TRD Tank.
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i see your point about saving money,, it is cool but I still like trdpro or like limited niteshade also, it looks so cool with wheel in the city, nice package inside
the nightshade is badass
I love my 4Runner
Thats cool i would Buy that put on the suspension and tires I want.
Yeah for offroading or overlanding a nice set of AT tires would really be all you need - the venture also has the KDSS to disconnect the sway bars
I just wonder if the Fox struts can be installed afterwards, will they fit?
Get the Fox 2.0. Better than the pro shocks.
Complaining about a mild all terrain p-rated tire. I had the highway tires and they are spongy soft and spin in on wet pavement.
What about the rear locker?
I prefer the TRD Off-Road Premium.
How come? I am trying to decide between the two. Isn't the Venture an upgraded TRD OR Premium?
@@benjaminabrahamovich4707 You pay a little more for the Venture, when it's only cosmetic features that are offered (Yakima basket, black door handles, front/rear valance, no badging)
@@BGaud and rims
I hear the kdss is not available on the venture but someone in the comments said theirs has it...*shrugs*
@@ShogunateDaimyo it's standard in Canada. But we dont have trd premium off road models either.
I went with the TRD offroad.
after first oil change and tire rotation , you will get steering wheel vibration on 55MPH/60MPH , this is know issue with drive rack and Toyota does not accept it , if you get this , do not waste time with dealer because they will never accept and never able to fix it .
Venture comes with KDSS , if you want to lift this , dont buy KDSS , and dunloop tires have good tire noise control but those tires are sucks , do not think to go on the rocks once you did , that tire rubber teeth will get damage and you will get issues .
Small cabin size , yes it does have small cabin size .
Speakers system , sucks even you get JBL , change speakers as soon as possible i have replaced with Kenwood
Gas killer , what ever you do , you not going to get better gas millage so keep in mind
I have a steering wheel vibration straight out of the dealer. Took it back the next day and they rebalanced the wheels and she’s smooth as silk now
If you get it with the KDSS it’s a much more confortable ride
I’m actually buying a 2014 trail premium on Friday with KDSS
Year 2021. The year you need to pay a dealer markup for a Toyota SUV
The tires are all the same size. TRD Pro adds an additional 1” lift in the front. Fox Struts and are way better than the Tokico. To add the Fox aftermarket suspension and comparable wheels and tires to the TRD PRO it’s going to cost about $5k, and don’t think you’ll get much selling the takeoffs. So yeah you can save a little going with the venture or off-road, but the PRO has a better resale to consider and the OEM parts are covered under warranty.
@7:10 thats not the same skid plate and every 4runner has that basic black one...
KDSS. Option available with venture. NOT with the pro. Let's get a vid on that comparison.
For real! Seems like a lot of people are over looking the venture with KDSS over the more popular TRD Pro. I just got my 4Runner venture with KDSS and it rides so much better than the Pro.
Nice! and good points from both. I will make a follow-up to this video in the new year
I'm confused about this detail. The dealer said the venture cannot come with the kdss. Didn't push because the pro doesn't include it so figured it was possible the venture didnt too. Neither makes sense to me. Can someone explain?
So basically the interior hasn't changed since 2010 give or take
Venture gets the KDSS suspension which Pro does not get
I was looking at the venture at the local dealer and they did not offer it with kdss. It made me hold on the sale and lean towards the pro for multiple reasons then found that the pro doesn't come with it either....what the...?
ive got a 2020 Venture edition... 1st thing I did... the tires, the Bridgestone duelers are garbage for the 4R... went with Toyo open country AT3.
Do you notice a big difference in on-road manners?
@@dwnshft i drove with the bridgestones for about a week while my new tires were on order... when the toyos went on I noticed a difference right away...maybe its just me, but the Toyos just made the truck roll better.
Did you have any rubbing issues? I have a 2020 venture but still the same old tires I wanna get rid of lol. Im wanting to keep the stock tire size
I kept stock size... No issues
U-betchya
How many people buy race cars and then take it to the track? None of my friends do. They buy what they want and drive it to the mall.
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Get it now. It’s being discontinued and the Nightshade is going away also.
For 4Runner fellas, how big is the impact of fuel on your personal budget?
I mean it can’t be that much worse than my current Tacoma they both use V6 engines right?
The comments about the tires...ignorant. The TRD PRO's factory tires are no worse for the driving experience than all seasons. Honestly...this is not a vehicle you seem qualified to review.
Hahaha oh? Because of something I said about tires?
I agree 100%. It seems like he doesn't know which end is up.
@@dwnshft honestly based on what I watched of your review---and yes, a knowledge of maybe the single most critical component of an Offroad focused vehicle (the tires) is an easy tell on whether someone has any clue about what they're talking about.
I had these tires stock on my ORP and sold them immediately for $200 and put some Falken Wildpeaks on. No ragrets
Dude you didn't even mention the KDSS system...the absolute reason I bought the 2021 Venture, and my former 2018 trd off road premium. Venture edition gave me the yakima rack, black 17" TRD wheels, and of course the updated infotainment system. It's a TRDORP, and then some. I don't feel a bit wrong, about adding the TRD emblems to the C pillars.
Same reason I bought my TRDOR with KDSS. Threw some Bilstein 5100’s on it for a small front end lift and some Nitto Ridge Grapplers. It’s very very capable and didn’t break the bank!
adding TRD Off-Road badging to a Venture is sacrilege.
I think KDSS is a option, my 4R Venture dosen't have it
@@lerrin in Canada Venture comes with dual clement control , in usa it does not
I'm going to look at a black 2021 venture are sunroofs standard on venture and that JBL stereo must be an upgrade for both venture and trd pro correct?
Just saying if you’re worried about fuel economy get a small vehicle not an off-road suv
I have the Venture
Nice 😎👌
This is a TRD Offroad Premium with black exterior bits (lower bumper valance, door handles, spoiler, 4Runner applique), TRD Pro wheels, and Predator step bars with a Yakima rack and cargo tray from the Trail edition. I don't think it's worth the extra cost honestly. Most of these parts you can order separately, and I've seen many new 4runner's with these options installed at port. I think most people would be better off with a TRD Offroad w/ KDSS and adding a TRD skid plate then buy aftermarket wheels and A/T tires since that's the aggressive look people want anyways. What's odd is Toyota foregoes the TRD shift knob for one found in the SR5.
What's the point in moaning about the number of gears, fuel economy etc when it comes to this car? Everybody knows, and despite that, good luck finding one right now.
Rad
This doesn't have auto climate control?
I'm going to be buying one of these in a year and I'm so freaking excited it's going to be my first 4Runner I'm going to be putting a lift and icon wheels on it going to be putting some KT3s on it as I'm a on call Firefighter and have had to bring my KIA Sportage LX up a UTV trail mutiple times and needless to say my Sportage didn't like it
new or used?
@@dwnshft it's going to be a 2020 Venture unless I can get a good trade in deal on my Kia but I don't know she's been abused unfortunately by fire gear being thrown in the back and just driven places even KiA corporate has said "our Sportage isn't made to go off roading" then we get a call in some remote trail and I have to be like Siiike let's do this and listen to ping pop ping all the way in and all the way out 😳😳😳 and the amount of fire packs and gear that's been thrown in her is just phew
@@itsyaboimat2393 yiiikkkeeess yeah not sure the unibody shortage is built for that. You’ll love the 4Runner though! When you get it send me some pics on Instagram!
Id rather get the TRD Off Road then throw on the TRD Skid Plate and 2021 TRD Pro rims on some Terra Grapplers and fox shocks and lift. That basket is fugly.
trd offroad has the best value
heck yeah that's why I got a used offroad
Toyota is going to mess with this 4.0 liter V6, 5 gear in 2024……not looking forward to this
Will keep my 2021 TRD ORP forever
2021 TRD Pro Lunar Rock is on order for me.
That’s rad 😎👌
Машина отличная но слишком много ведущего в кадре
There is nothing bead-lock about the TRD wheels. Not in style or function.
The gear comparison was fucking stupid. My 2018 mustang has 3 gears.. 😂
Who are you targeting? Off road enthusiasts or city streets drivers? After all, it’s a marketing BS. TRD PRO is a Unicorn!
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