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Unlike other villains in Star Wars, he isn't evil, which is why I love his character. He's simply a very talented commander
Right and I kind of hope that's something that they keep in mind. Because to him the empire is a means to and end for him to protect the chiss ascendancy. He knows what's outside of the galaxy and how much of a threat that can be.
@@Chaogod1233 yes because everything he does is ultimately for the ascendancy
@@josephkush1032 I think it's a clever way to get people thinking about how a person working for the other side in war isn't necessarily evil. When it comes down to it, Thrawn's sense of duty to those he loves (his people) is no different than any of the Rebels. He simply views the Empire as a better chance for survival for the Chiss because his homeland, and the galaxy as a whole, are under threat.
If not misguided in his absolute trust in the empire!
@@rodniegsm1575 It's less about trust in the Empire and more about the fact that they have the largest unified military fleet in the galaxy.
He was awesome in the Zahn books. While it was great to see him in Rebels, I don't think the show did him justice. They only touched on what he was capable of, but I felt that he was too easily defeated. I hope that they make him a real threat with real stakes and losses to back them up.
In the books, he felt that the Emperor and Vader made a lot of mistakes that led to the downfall of the Empire. He believed that their brutal tactics would inevitably lead to their downfall. Thrawn wasn't prone to tantrums like Vader who would force choke anyone who failed him, but instead Thrawn would allow subordinates to learn and grow. He was a teacher as much as a tactician. This caused those who served under him to be truly loyal, not out of fear but out of respect. He made people want to serve him, not feel like they have to serve him.
It doesn't mean that he wasn't ruthless when it called for it, but only when he felt it was absolutely necessary. He didn't seem to feel glee or happiness at the suffering of others, but simply as a means to achieve his goals.
I do think it would have been nice to see more of his mentoring of his troops like you mentioned. However, I do think that rebels did show that the only thing that defeated him was the force which I think was reasonable.
Sure. EU Thrawn would never have put his insubordinate Admiral in charge of an interdictor. He'd have kept him close, either to keep him on a shirt leash or in Pellaeon's case, so he could groom them for command....
Also, to be fair, _anyone_ would lose to a bunch of deus ex baleens....
His losses in Rebels were never to his own fault. Had he been given free reign to destroy the rebels without instructions from Grand Moff Tarkin and the Emperor or the stupidity of already in place subordinates such as Admiral Konstantin or Governor Pryce, he would have done so on multiple occasions.
The books I thought did a very good job and the show matched those writings (or vice verse) very well.
No Thrawn allowed Ezra to get him out of the situation he was facing if he had stayed he would have been unalived by the emporer
I didn't expect Thrawn to be so dangerous even after the fall of the Empire. He should've been the leader of the First Order.
Imagine him giving that speech on Starkiller base as it fires on Hosnia.
I’m assuming they’re going to kill him off before the first order rises
Read the heir to the empire trilogy by Timothy Zahn
@@darthshima820 thanks for the reading recommendation.
@@jessemillan1385 your welcome. You won't be disappointed. It's the best of the best of star wars reading.
Grand Admiral Thrawn is an highly underrated villain who always has a way to outsmart his opponents with hardly any difficulty. Which is why I can’t wait to see him in Live Action.
I couldn’t agree with you more Thrawn is my favourite villain because he so dam smart.
Why is he a villian.
@@raybarry4307 Because he’s depicted as one since he’s a threat to all the hero’s. But I wouldn’t necessarily say that Thrawn is evil.
@@TheAncientSith He’s definitely more determined than evil
@CrimsonAcolyte733 Threat to the heros you say. That depends upon your politics. And You're going to find that a great many truths depends greatly on one's point of view. 🙂
Another thing that makes Thrawn so dangerous is the fact that he’s not arrogant and will give credit where it’s due and is not opposed to listening to others ideas. So he doesn’t have the same flaw that other imperial commanders had and that’s another thing that makes him so dangerous besides his brilliant tactical abilities. But another thing, it was an incredibly smart decision by LucasFilm and Disney to have Timothy Zahn return to give advice on the cannon version of Thrawn. And it’s definitely a good idea to adapt some aspects of the Heir to the Empire storyline as it was one of the most important and popular Star Wars Storylines.
I had no idea they consulted with Zahn. This is amazing news. I was hoping he wouldn’t be a stereotypical villain like he is in Rebels
I've read the Zahn books and got the Legends Dark Horse comics years ago. It's about time Timothy Zahn is given his due. If they would have used Thrawn for the Sequels Trilogy with Zahn aboard, that would have been awesome. Instead of having Palpatine returning...lol. I bet ya Rian Johnson would have done some great things with Thrawn unlike JJ Abrahms rehashing ANH.
Thrawn always fascinated me. The way he would meticulously study his opponent (s) and figure out the best outcome to a battle. Also how he was able to find a true weakness for force wielders to make them "normal" and easier to capture or defeat. He was and still is a genius in the Star Wars universe, while others are just weak and people minded individuals.
While i doubt they will do it. I would love to see him become a anti hero character and eventually return to the Chiss.
Sure hope that doesn't mean the yuuzhan vong will return to Canon as well
@@koraegi They so far have a stand in called Gryst. they are present in the latest Thrawn books.
The Gryst were portrayed in a very entangled way for being the protagonist in the most recent series.
One thing to note that in cannon his exile was a cover to infiltrate the Empire and try to either form an alliance for the Chiss or send them resources. He has previously sent several Imperial officers to join the Chiss
Thrawn is not evil, he is an antagonist yes but he is not evil. He had a goal and a reason he does what he does. He is my favorite Star Wars character in both Legends and Cannon
I have been waiting for Thrawn forever. If he was at Endor instead of Vader the rebels would have had no chance. He was the greatest military mind in the Empire.
My main hope is that Thrawn will not be killed. Thrawn is a great antagonist, but a poor villain. I can imagine him wanting to restore the Empire to secure additional material and manpower for his efforts supporting his people, but with Palpatine out of the way, he isn’t the kind of leader to causually resort to atrocities to secure his objectives. Since we know that Thrawn is ultimately unsuccessful in restoring the Empire, I would like to see something along the lines of him deciding that trying to reunify the fractured New Republic by force is more trouble than it’s worth and withdrawing his forces plus whatever he and his forces can seize back to the Unknown Regions.
I'd like to see Zahn change Thrawn's ending now that they're going in a new direction. Instead of Thrawn being assassinated Julius Caesar style, they could have him fake his death. He's almost reunified the Empire and the Grysk/Vong threat is eliminated; but the FO members are turning against him. Thrawn sees the writing on the wall and has Gil Pellaeon, Eli Vanto, and Ar'alani help him fake his death. To most of the galaxy, he's dead. In reality, Thrawn returns to the Ascendancy with Ar'alani and Eli, leaving Gil as the last Imperial Officer like in the books. What happens to Thrawn after that is a mystery, unless Zahn wants to write some more Thrawn books for people who like the character.
We need Thrawn Movie from Empire perspectives, like Star Wars squadron & battlefield
@@shahrulnizam5263 If they do that, they should do it from the perspective of the Chiss in order to give those who haven't read the books an insight into what drove Thrawn to the Empire and why he needs to keep it unified. We know for him that his main motivation is to keep his people from being wiped out.
by far my favorite SWU character for a few decades now... love the fact that you point out his intellect is the most dangerous asset!!!!
Would be interesting to see if Thrawn and Ezra are working together as I consider Thrawn more as an antagonist rather than an outright villian. It makes sense since in the Unknown Regions (The Chaos), the Chiss use "Skywalkers" (later determined to be force sensitive Chiss) to navigate Hyperspace. Thrawn having an actual Jedi (even a Padawan like Ezra) to help him navigate the Unknown Regions they were thrown into. Especially if Ezra were to learn of Thrawns true motivations and how serious a threat the Grysk are.
That would be an interesting plot twist. Ezra's friends would be alarmed at this, but then Ezra would have to explain that there's a bigger threat to the universe than just the Empire. And that's why they need Thrawn because with everyone so fractured after the fall of the Empire, it leaves them wide open for the Grysk to attack. I think it would be great if they red herring the audience into thinking Thrawn is the main villain, but then the heroes have to reluctantly ally with him temporarily for survival due to the incoming threat. And you realize that Thrawn's plan for reuniting the Empire is more about military might and unity to fight a war against a more powerful enemy.
@@mish375 you hit the nail on the head. That would be an awesome plot line and would play to who I think Thrawn really is....someone who cares about his own race so much that he will bend any rule and use any tactic to further that agenda. I'm nkt going to hold my breath though. I was pretty upset how bad Disney messed up Boba Fett. Let's hope Thrawn doesn't get "Boba Fett'd" lol
@@4TheWorkshop CZcams autodeleted my last comment, so here we go again.
I take comfort in the fact that Filoni is working with the writer of the books (Zahn) on live action Thrawn. I think it'll be fine. I'm not familiar with Rebels as I haven't seen it (just seen some clips), but the books were fantastic. It really shows how loved Thrawn is given that they decanonized him and then he was brought back.
I like the idea that maybe Ezra bringing in the ghost crew to work with Thrawn would really give everyone some character complexity. The idea that in war the other side is heartless would be challenged. One man's brutal acts are viewed as saving lives in the long run. And Thrawn trying to unite everyone against the Grysk threat would be perfect for this as he's always playing 3D chess while others haven't even gotten on the board yet. Wishful thinking, but, I think it would be cool if, after the temporary alliance ends, Thrawn and Ezra have a newfound begrudging respect for each other now that they see each other's perspectives. It would add a lot of narrative complexity that would fit with the characters.
@@mish375 yeah, I heard Filoni was working with Zahn to "get it right", so my hopes are higher as well.
If you can get past the first season, Rebels is phenomenal...
@@4TheWorkshop I'd like to go into it with optimism because it's extremely rare to see something like this happen with a formerly non-canon character. I hope they give us Thrawn's complexity and backstory because it's important to the overarching story.
What makes season 1 of Rebels so bad? Just curious.
A key point to be considered is Ezra Bridger’s role. Either a stone in Thrawn’s boot & or as the side kick to Ashoka in this next exciting telling battle of good vs evil. I can’t wait😊
Thrawn: "Master Tano. This is truly an honor. Look, an old friend has come to see you, LIEUTENANT Bridger."
Thrawn is my absolute favorite character in all of Star Wars. While the galaxy is playing checkers Thrawn is playing chess. Thrawn is not an evil character but a man on a mission to the galaxy by any means necessary.
Thrawn is the man with all the plans! When you think you out smarted him you realize he knew what you was going to do before you did. Genius, a total genius!
A pure minded individual indeed
THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS
If Thrawn has even half if the 7th fleet back he is easily the most powerful "warlord" out there. This huge fleet and his brain against Gideon and Mando would be too much.
Gideon trying to turn the council against Thrawn is going to come back and bite him hard. Thrawn knows every move that his officers make and that of his enemies. He also would know their failures and weak spots. I'm certain there's going to be a point where Thrawn does away with Gideon himself after everything he's pulled.
Thanks, i got curious about thrawn and you didn't disappoint as usual
When I first read those books all those long years ago, I actually imagined Raul Julia as Thrawn. Seemed to fit. What I find interesting about Thrawn, is that he's not actually evil. He believes in his cause, and believes it's right. He's like so many idiots these days.
Yeah I can see Raul Julia as Thrawn now that you mention it. RIP!
@@chrisj984 Yes he is
Was that because of M.Bison? Powerful yet smart? He was probably the only good thing in that movie. But the role reminds me of Thrawn.
thats why Im worried. Thrawn literally goes from capturing a fleet from the command level of the flagship of said ship, pretty much a prisonor, to getting chewed out by Grampa palps, and then suddenly changes and opens fire on civs. that wasnt thrawn. same with that silly snarl he made over the kalikori(misspelled.) thats not who he was. im sure he might have gone on a lesson for hours, but thrawn tried to nurture those he commanded. I love fillonis work. but i felt he did Zahn a disservice in how he portrayed thrawn
@Ryan King he took that role knowing he was dying, and acted his best for his son who was a huge SF fan.
To anyone who doesn't know Thrawn, he's basically Batman... but he's your enemy...
So, he's my friend/ally?
Pretty sure the ending of the Mandalorian S3 is going to be the Mandalorians beating Moff Gideon, and then the Grand Admiral Thrawn showing up and completely decimating everything with a cliff hanger.
I learn so much from your channel. Thank you for making the content. Your videos fill a lot of gaps for me
I always thought as Thrawn as the star wars version of Heydrich and Rommel..intelligent, ruthless and absolutely devoted to the cause beyond any consideration of "morals" or restraint...A absolutely horrific character when you think about it... He brings far more threat and evil than Palpatine or Vader could bring.
If you think he brings threat and evil then I suggest you read the books
Dude, Thrawn thought of Palpatine and Vader as being too ruthless. He actively tried to use scare and terror tactics as little as possible and only resorted to them when absolutely necessary. Dude was less a Rommel and more a Robert E. Lee who can figure out exactly what someone will do from their art.
In the books he has a strong moral core. He takes a "lesser of two evils" approach to defending the galaxy from threats approaching it.
He brings far more threat and evil than Palpitine or Vader? You're delusional. Thrawn maybe hyper intelligent but he is no force welding sith Lord. Vader killed younglings. Can't get any more evil than that. Paps would force lightening you and actually enjoy doing it. More evil than Darth Sidious and Vader, ha. It's clear you haven't thought this through.
General Veers was more of a Star Wars Rommel than Admiral Thrawn if you think about it.
"A great tactician creates plans. A good tactician recognizes the soundness of a plan presented to him. A fair tactician must see the plan succeed before offering approval.
Those with no tactical ability at all may never understand or accept it. Nor will such people understand or accept the tactician. To those without that ability, those who posses it are a mystery.
And when a mind is too deficient in understanding, the resulting gap is often filled with resentment."
- Grand Admiral Thrawn
If Timothy Zahn is back we will have one HELL OF A VILLAIN!
Basically, Thrawn is like a practicing Art of War commander, implementing tactics for precision and strategic reasons, while understanding that the corruption in the Empire ranks has left a lot of subpar leadership within the ranks.
I can't wait to see all of these series and see it all unfold. This is the way.
In the entirety of the Star Wars continuum, Grand Admiral Thrawn is hands down my all time favorite, number 1 character, bar none.
The rest is so far off for me that he is also number 2 and 3.
The rest is fighting to be 4 or 5, no better.
He has it all, style, discipline, knowledge, strategy, how to support and maintain an army. How to inovate that army, build up elite troops AND maintain regulars. Sees the need for hyperdrive, shielded fighter, gunboats and dedicated carriers. (chis fighter, Tong fan, B frigates v2, xg1 star wing and the missile boat, to name but a few) He knows how 3d space combat works and that the interdictor cruiser is more advantageous than yet another star destroyer. That building yet another super star destroyer will be far less cost effective than a balanced fleet of 'lesser' ships for the smae prize.
This man as your militaries supreme general under Darth Revan, with a legeon of old republic Sith, that would be awesome. In witch it is mandated by rule that no Darth outside the inner counsil outranks Thrawn. He is the one in command period.
And this is how winning is done.
So he's the only one with a brain in a brainless galaxy. It's easy to look genius when everyone else is dumb.
I think the coolest thing about Thrawn to me, besides him just being an all around great and interesting villain that added some real variety to Star Wars both in Legends and in how he’s been used in the new canon so far, is how he’s kind of both an expansion on and massive improvement on the sort of villain Palpatine was originally imagined to be in prototype form when George Lucas first imagined the world of Star Wars when making A New Hope. But unlike Palpatine, or… the non-force wielding hypothetical version I’ll call Prepatine, who was a bumbling political pawn ultimately underlying the Empire’s power (admittedly, a fun piece of social commentary we ended up not receiving… we got evil space warlock Ian chewing on scenery instead, and that’ll never get old) Thrawn is a cunning, military and political mastermind, who also happens to be an ordinary man, or humanoid… who manages to bring rebellions and New Republics to their knees even when they have powerful force wielders on their side. He’s like, the perfect anti-Palpatine, and probably the kind of villain the sequel trilogy actually needed to separate it from the first six films.
And… subscribed. I will happily watch any videos regarding Thrawn. And honestly I’ve watched quite a few videos from this channel in general already, so should’ve subscribed sooner.
Is no one going to talk about how Thrawn is a regular as dude in a galaxy full of people with the force, space witches, people in between, yet he rose to the title of the one and only Grand Admiral.
Problem is space magic universe is his one weakness.
@@marsneedstowels I'm pretty sure space magic is ots own weakness. It doesn't even matter if you light or dark, both epires felt.
There are actually several (I believe eight?) Grand Admirals. However, Thrawn was the only non-human in Imperial High Command, which is an incredible achievement cosindering how xenophobic and racist the higher echelons of the empire can be, and how many powerful people opposed him.
@@TrueMaskGames that's what I meant
Outstanding video sir!
Seeing a live-action Thrawn in action would be awesome. I would be geeking out over it just when I saw that live-action version of Cad Bane.
well get ready, because its coming
I do hope they will use him to at least half of his potential in the Ahsoka series.
I have the First edition Hard covers on Heir to the Empire. I have read them so Much, I dare not open them anymore. The bindings are spent!. All because of Thrawn. His character was so different and Clever. Intrigued me.
Great video.
I'm aware of Grand admiral thrawn in Legends and his ability to look at the art of a culture in order to understand them and to be able to figure out how he can defeat them. This is just a key testament to his intelligence and ability to win battles and wars. I'm excited to see more of thrones as I watched him in Star wars rebels and was amazed and happy that they brought him into cannon. It will be exciting for me to say the least to see what unfolds with the wrong continuing in Canon. I can't wait to see it as long as Dave Filoni is in charge I'm sure everything will be awesome!!!
Where did you get the content about thrawn meeting palps during the Clone wars? Im a huge thrawn fan, i wanna read that part
Thrawn is one of the greatest villains in fiction. His political cunning and military strategy alone make him a terrifying force.
The moment Ahsoka name dropped Thrawn, I immediately knew how the empire managed to come back to power so quickly and so quietly.
The New Republic is not ready for what's coming.
The most unfortunate thing about all of this is that because the sequel trilogy has such an established end for all this we know what it's going to lead to. As all of this could have been a lead up to a war with the Grysk.
Thrawn could be a red herring and in the middle of the chaos of them trying to stop him from coming back then the Grysk show up and the Galaxy has to band together in order to stop them.
I feel like a threat like that is something that Star Wars needs to move away from rebels versus empire. I know that's at the core of Star Wars but I feel like we've beaten that horse into glue.
The sequel movies were such a bad idea and it's even worse that they're now doubling down on it...
Please make more videos of this
One point is that thrawn's exile (in cannon) was planned to gain the aid of the empire to help the chiss.
It would be cool to have a parallel series next to ahsoka. Have a Thrawn series that focuses on him that comes out a day or two before ahsoka and it shows what he's doing behind the scenes while we see what she's doing behind the scenes and run them in continuous continuity to each other
Badass video. Thrawn could be the key precursor to a live action adaptation of the Vong. Many close ties.
I would like to see a min series of thrawn up bringing
Calculated & cold. Dude was hardcore
Thrawn is the best villain and most underrated villain in Star Wars. In Legends, he had his empire. The Empire of the Hand. He leads the Imperial Remnant, like Canon.
I just hope we get more explanation of how he resurfaced, what has become of his fleet.
I feel THRAWN is the perfect character to introduce us to the unknown regions that houses unknown threats. Imagine a dialogue after he is defeated and he says something along the lines of “you fools, the empire was our best defense for the the threats you have not yet seen or know exist, the republic would not be strong enough for it is based in peace and not war. You have doomed us all” then the Jedi take him and go to the unknown regions and they see the new threats and come back and the Jedi themselves admit that the empire was the better option and more. It would be such a good ending and such a great introduction into unseen parts of the universe for the fans with thrawn, Jedi and the republic realizing what a mistake it was to get rid of the empire.
What an awesome character
I hope they do prosthetic makeup to make the actor look like the clone wars animated character of his race .
Amazing
He has a good reputation amongst his people, he just didn't have a good one with people in power. He also wasn't exiled after outbound flight. It was after his war with the grysk and using starflash
What ever Thrawn is planning on his return, we’ll be ready. Since we’ve seen his battle tactics five years ago. We know his every move
What did you expect, it is Thrawn you are talking about. On a danger scale from wombrat to death star, he is a good bit above the death star.
The fact that Thrawn isn't even a Force user either elevates his danger level. This guy can take on Jedi using strategem and still win. It goes to show that Disney shouldn't be afraid of writing an intelligent antagonist.
@@mish375 Disney will fuck that up.
He is pretty awesome. The use of the Jedi clone in legends was really cool too. I thought such a powerful Jedi clone who had the ability to take control of an army's worth of minds was terrifying in legends.
He is such an underrated character!
Not for long
@@jaredthrasher8368 Glad to see him finally getting the screentime he deserves
Wild to think Thrawn is technically a good guy. He’s a double agent, testing the power of our known galaxy so we can better protect against an unknown threat that MUST be devastating…
He deemed the Empire as not enough
I dont know if I'd ever call Thrawn "one of the greatest threats the Galaxy has ever seen". From what we've seen of him, living in Thrawn's Empire probably wouldn't have been too bad. Probably better than what we've seen out of this New Republic so far.
At least in the books he's trying to save the entire damn galaxy.
I love star wars so much my older brother have show me all the films i was 7 at the time i am now 16 and my older brother is 24 because of him i became a star wars fan
I hope Thrawn isn't too involved with the First Order, since that gang of neo-imperials don't seem like the type of people Thrawn would respect.
How are they going to explain how he got away from Ezra? I am excited for the new upcoming series. Hopefully they have a good story to explain this question.
You mixed legends and new cannon. Outbound flight was legends. Zahn wrote a prequel trilogy to go into detail of his origin and exile. Having said that Treason does kind of bring outbound flight back into cannon.
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Was there any interaction between rae sloane and thrawn in the AU or Expanded Universe in the past?
i think the greatest thing disney ever learnt was telling star wars storys in the same format as marvel movies thats why the mandalorian saga is just so epic and compelling and also why the sequel movies failed. the movies didnt connect the past 6 movies well nor did they do well by the returning characters, where as the mandalorian is perfecting its world building and doing well by any returning characters they use
Pronunciation correction: Thrawn's ship, the Chimaera, has a long "i" sound. Instead of starting it off like "chimney", it's more like "k-eye-mera".
Pretty sure at least. Love the channel's content so please understand no offense is intended.
Yes. That's because Chimaera comes from Greek. (Khímaira) The "Ch" in Greek is always a hard "K" sound, like in the word chaos.
The brilliance of Thrawn.....
It would be interesting to see the vong
Grand Admiral Thrawn is someone to never underestimate. He is brilliant, cold, and will do whatever it takes to get the job done. He knows the power of respect. Respect like Vader had with his 501st Legion but on a much bigger scale. He's not evil but cold when it comes to strategy. Like using just enough force to get his point across.
Thawn is the Aurelian of the StarWars Lore.
Having read the Thrawn: Ascendancy books myself (just 1) I honestly would love to see Thrawn again, but not as the villain.
this. I would love to see his even younger self. I’m talking like 5-16ish because even in the Ascendancy books we never actually meet Vurawn’s parents.
Min 7:33 broooo 🥹 so beautiful spoken
Good old times, when I served under the orders of Vice-Admiral, Admiral and final Grand-Admiral Thrawn.
“Barring something unforeseen or uncontrollable Thrawn will never taste anything more then temporary defeat.” -Timothy Zahn
No mercy is the way of the Chiss ( sung like Way Of The Fist by FFDP)
What about Ezra Bridger and the space whales at the end of Rebels? What effect could that have had on him and the rest of the story?
Shock if anythng. that seems about it
I wish we could just erase Rebels and all of it's debileness and childish crap stirring. Ezra being the worst, apart from what they did to Thrawn
@@alnotzhot take
No outbound flight was not we got Thrawn exiled. His victory over the Grisk. In fact, Thrawn chiss ascendancy books start right after that incident
That was the best breakdown ever. But I think thrawn will be some how involved with snoke as well. I actually think snoke will kill thrawn as rukh who died in canon in revels did in legends. This making himself supreme leader. Starting the tradition of the supreme leaders killing each other. The first order failed because they killed the genius behind it.
This leads well into the Rey movie in that 15 years after the final order Rey has to deal with the grysk because the lack of Jedi and resistance thanks to the fight with the first order makes the grysk think it a great time to strike. This would tie in well with rebuilt Manda’lore and grogu all grown up so to speak. And countess Sabine and count Ezra of clan wren to tie Manda’lore and this new version of the EU new Jedi
He will rescue us from chaos
Thrawn is born on Rentor in canon, not Csilla. While Rentor is still in the Chiss Ascendancy (and therefore the video’s argument wouldn’t change at all) I wanted to point it out because Rentor is more of a “backwater world” in the Chiss Ascendancy whereas Csilla is the capital of the Ascendancy.
Also, almost no one is even born on Csilla in canon. The world is so cold that almost no one lives there. The official population is in the billions (i think), but the actual population is in the millions or even thousands.
Vader and Thrawn did not get along at all .Vader wanted to force choke Thrawn every few pages when they were forced to work together by Palpatine in the "Alliances" book. and Thrawn had to treat Vader like a child because of his impatience and reckless tendencies. they had a healthy respect for each other, but they tolerated one another.
You're right. I noticed that error in the video as well.
Mi’thrawn Yurotto was disliked by the higher up in his younger days because of his tactical brilliance not him breaking the law over and over. That’s what lead to him being exiled. I hope they stick to this version of him. He never killed more then was necessary and preferred to take prisoners over all out blood shed. That’s why he was terrifying because he could achieve what palpatine did and wouldn’t even need to be force sensitive.
You know? The more I think about it the more I believe Thrawn is the perfect opponent for the mandalorians, given his MO
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Thrawn in the man who uses his natural intelligence and understanding of others to win
Currently reading thrawn at the moment
i think that both trawn and ezra will train together in mutual captivity, but both will return to their ways once all things go back to normal.
this happened often in clone wars.
Tarkin and Vader are scary due to their use of fear and brutality. Thrawn however, is scary because of how smart and effective he is both on and off the battlefield.
I really wanted to see him battle the vong
Read the 2 trilogies by Timothy Zahn and you will see how really powerful and intelligent Thrawn really is...loved all six novels ‼❤
Thrawn plan is simple. Protection of his people. By whatever means necessary. Over think it and miss the simplicity of it.
Thrawn is dangerous, but he is not evil, its more like he is ruthless and a strategic / tactical savant.
If Thrawn dies in the Filoni movie, it might be cool for Xizor and Dash Rendar to show up in the Rey-Jedi movie . We all know Dash makes for a decent Han.
Thrawn motive was to save Chiss from the dangers of Yung/Grisk so you can not call him completely evil or evil but a man with strong survival instincts regarding the chiss and I think Ezra must know some of this by now so there is severol ways this could go regarding Ezra/Thrawn,and the one behind Gideon must be Thrawn as it makes sence with everything regarding Grugo and the need for his blod and my gess is we will see that mad jedi appear(can’t recall name) also most likely Pallion and Eli Vanto as well
Joruus C'Baoth was the mad Jedi. But it was because he was a clone and Pellaeon notes that some of the early clones had mental instabilities. Pellaeon showed up in Mandalorian. He will absolutely be in the Ahsoka series.
@@mish375 Thanks for giveing me the name and that info😊
@@Wenchework You're welcome. I think now that Ray Stephenson has passed, they may have his character Beylan die. But a plot twist could be that he was working for Joruus.
What if the old sith man in the Ahsoka trailer is a rework of C’Baoth in legends?
You didn't tell me anything I didn't already know, but I enjoyed listening all the same. I cannot wait for this series! Thrawn is my favorite Star Wars character. I excel at strategy and tactics myself so watching a master at work is a huge treat.
I think disney needs to find a consultant that is very good at military tactics and the writers need to really take his advice... I tried to write a book and realized that smart characters can only be as smart as the writer. So, many times, a smart character can only be portrayed as smart by making the opposition really really dumb so they look brilliant in contrast.
I hope he is not the only person from his race that we get to meet. Apparently they are a force sensitive race, attuned to the darkside if I'm not mistaken but aren't always consumed by it.
Not necessarily any more Force sensitive than any other race. In the books, it is typically their young female Chiss that have this ability. The Chiss military identifies them when they are young, takes them from their families and enlists them as "navigators" through hyperspace for their military vessels. It's a bit of a secret, as no one outside the military really knows how the Chiss are able to navigate "The Chaos" (as the Chiss call the Unknown Regions). They tend to lose their sensitivity when they hit their mid-teens. They are actually highly regarded and basically tended-to hand and foot by a "handler" that is assigned to them. Once they lose their abilities, they are retired, but are essentially "set" for life for their service to the Chiss military. They call them "skywalkers" (yes...there's intentional irony there) and it isn't initially correlated to The Force. It is Thrawn who eventually makes that connection.
@@4TheWorkshop I love the lore man, wish I had more time to look in to it. They're an interesting people the Chiss. The fact that Thrawn, without being force sensitive, is so formidable physically and mentally is amazing. Is he an average Chiss? Was he that strong in the books because to be honest my knowledge of him kinda ends at the Rebels cartoon series. That was sick when he took on those two droids at once when Ezra reprogramed them. Can't wait to see him in the upcoming series too!!! I don't know much about that actor though, but the guy playing Thrawn was freakin amazing in Sherlock Holmes series.
@@turinthalion8784 he isn't any physically stronger, just well trained in hand to hand. He has the belief that taking care of your physical body helps the mental part better. but even among the Chiss, he was considered a brilliant tactician. Their culture is essentially a sort of caste-system, with certain "families" more prominent than others. You can be "adopted" into families of higher standing by being "recruited" if you have something to offer. Thrawn was o e who was brought into a high-status family as he was identified early as a genius tactician. His number one goal has always been to serve his people, even joining the Empire was a plot to further that agenda.
@@4TheWorkshop Excellent summary.
@@4TheWorkshop There is the odd exception though. Vah'nya, who was an adult Chiss female, still maintained her connection to the Force into adulthood which mystified everyone. It's possible that if Ezra is working with the Chiss Ascendancy, he might help the Chiss maintain their connection to the Force through training techniques. Thrawn mentions he had a biological sister who was force-sensitive that was taken from his family very young and he never saw her again.
7:29 Thrawn is the -- Lexington Luthor of Star Wars!!!
I can tell that Grand Admiral Thrawn is one dangerous dude. But I know Asoka will be up to the challenge.
*When your Intelligence and Charisma are maxed at 💯*
Jason Isaacs should play Thrawn in live series.