It's worth noting that there was already a series of books before Timothy Zahn's Heir to the Empire trilogy that were building up the post-RoTJ (the Star Wars: Rogue Squadron books), but the first Thrawn trilogy was the first time we got to see 'the gang back together'. The fact they had Thrawn (a non-force user) with Joruus Sabbaoth as a secondary antagonist just makes the trilogy all the more memorable/interesting than the Disney dreck we ended up getting (and that's just on the villain side).
Just a slight correction about Mara: the books acknowledge that she never actually appears in the movies - or more accurately, not at the Sarlacc pit (there have been plenty of speculations about who was portraying her in Jabba's palace under the assumption that she was depicted there, but the books were written before the Special Edition of the movies, and most of these came up in the wake of the SE release) - but they use a pretty clever way for doing it. For those who do not already know, I will not spoil anything, but I will say this: the realization of it has quite the bone-chilling effect on Luke, all because just one little detail change could have made the rescue of Han Solo go completely differently and very likely disastrously for them (and yeah, this is a way of bringing up the concept of the butterfly effect).
Back lore with Mara Jade, she brag that Palpatine & Vader had their agents on every major ship the Rebelion had to kill off the command staff. Later they rolled that into Order 66.
Think what you want about the ST, but let's not lie to ourselves; the Thrawn trlilogy is FAR from as perfect as we remember it! I read the books when I was in high school, they were over 10 years old by this time, but by God I loved them! Somuch better than the prequels! But in retrospect, I have started to see the flaws. For one, Joruus is a weak antagonist!
Well, yes, he is. He is secondary antagonist, calamity to OT heroes but mere issue for Thrawn. And even by EU scale, he is probably weaker than Night Sisters @@Chemical_Argentum
I do sincerely think this stuff was far more interesting and better than what Disney has done Just like the Halo books are the holy grail of the original Halo story
WE haven't forgotten you EU! Great video, was born in 92' so after discovering the OG Trilogy on VHS (man that makes me feel old, older than I am) I was introduced to the EU & was HOOKED. A few yrs back I got back into collecting (TVC 3.75!) & really have fallen back in love with SW. My job since starting 4-5yrs ago has really beaten me down, draining the force from my body, creating a wound in my life. Yet, SW has helped, I've fallen in love with this galaxy again, & it has really helped in dark times. Glad I found this, I hit subscribe right away, & plan on staying!
3:44 Leia is what amounts to the Secretary of State for the New Republic. Also, the NR wasn't really "larger" than the Imp Warlords, what made them lose was more that they were using resources to fight each other instead of the NR, giving the NR time to consolidate and start their meticulous campaign of eliminating one Warlord after the other.
Plus a early computer game in the 1990s, Tie Fighter, subtly reinforced Thrawn as a great and enriching character in the lore and story telling. From a more slow paced, as well as more rewarding, gaming era.
Such a great covering of the thrawm books, really doing them justice (unlike rebels, an i to some extent like rebels). Keep up the great work! Can we expect more exposé, long, meaty videos like this?
Please make more long form legends videos not many people do and it’s definitely the best area for starwars sure some is janky but man the majority is great whether it’s like training his first group of Jedi or a story specific to world building it’s great I definitely recommend the legacy of the force series and the fate of the Jedi as well
To be fair... Thrawn has had three great trilogies. A great trilogy of great trilogies. You've got the Legends Heir to the Empire trilogy which kicked off the whole EU/Legends, and you've got the Canon Thrawn and Thrawn Ascendancy trilogies that are some of the best Disney era Star Wars content, regardless of what you think about Disney's handling of Star Wars as a whole. All three of these trilogies shine bright thanks to Timothy Zahn's phenomenal writing.
another very intersting thing: you might be familiar that german dubs most foreign movies since the dawn of time, which means luke, han, leia, etc. all have their own german voice-actors which gave us an amazing thrawn-trilogy audiobook with the original german voice acting cast, sound effects, etc etc. its brilliant
I've watched the CW series and i like it as a whole but I've never watched Rebels and have no interest in it, i remember when older and younger fans were all raving about the show but it never interested me then and it doesn't now. 16:33 that design of the Noghri just about sums up most of "Disney Starwars" today... watered down. Loads of young fans all praise Dave Filoni (some older fans too), but i was always skeptical of him. Filoni's Ahsoka series just shows what he's always about, his whole style of storytelling and how he handles *Star Wars* is just whimsical, it's more fluff than anything else. George Lucas always maintained that *Star Wars* is meant for "Kids" Young Boys to be precise, but it's obvious that when Lucas' Starwars blew up and became a "Culture Phenomenon" it appealed to way more than just kids, even boys. the EU further emphasized this fact; but it seems the way Dave Filoni especially sees starwas is something purely for kids and teenagers at best. Filoni should have never written thrawn in his Ahsoka series that should have been left to Zahn. I just think Disney are always going to keep the starwars franchise as mainly appealing to kids mostly. I mean, if the Kenobi, BOBF, 3rd Season of Mando and Ahsoka are anything to go by. Andor had a more serious, adult tone and hopefully they will allow more of that, there's certainly room in the franchise to tell both younger kid-oriented stories, as well as starwars stories for much older fans in general. But i don't know whether we're ever going to be able to get close to that George Lucas storytelling sensibility of his 6 original movies. Lucas as a storyteller just had a way of balancing lighthearted moments, but he also seemed to treat his "kid audience" back then as though they were like "intelligent" and more sophisticated i think. I hate to say it but in this era today, kids and just alot of teens and young people are way too dumbed down and have very short attention spans; and worst thing about this - Disney will always opt to keep catering to this, and as a result they will only keep watering down starwars more and more.
If the Chimera was transporting that many ysalamiri in the Ahsoka show then Ahsoka, Ezra, and Sabine wouldn't have had access to the force during the first season's final battle in the fortress, nor would the great mothers. Points for an original theory, but it doesn't seem nearly as plausible as the idea that they're transporting night sister corpses.
The EU is so much better than almost everything (except Rogue One and Grogu) that Disney does. To me it really is canon. When I pick up a Legends book, I always think of that guy at the Wrestling Convention that cries and says, "It's still real to me dammit!"
R1 hace few downsides imo. And so far Grogu became a cash grab, instead of what he could be. Like for real, he could be used to start some series set in far future, like reverse KOTOR
the thrawn triology is the best that ever happened to and in star wars ngl, tragedy how star wars turned bad around disney takeover and discontinuation of the old canon, even worse tragedy how the took old canon stuff like thrawn and very badly put it into the new canon ):
To be fair, the Thrawn: Ascendancy trilogy (aka Young Thrawn pre-Empire) does give us an interesting insight into both the Chiss Ascendancy and Thrawn himself.
These three books have been my personal episodes 7, 8 and 9 for... well forever since I first read them about two decades ago. And Disney's tries at making SW movies has only increased my conviction. There is also a fantastic Audio Drama of the trilogy in German, with excellent professional voice actors and all the sounds and music we know and love from the movies. However, I don't know whether someting like that exists in English.
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I was 10 minutes in before I realized this wasn't one of those huge lore channels. Great Job!
It's worth noting that there was already a series of books before Timothy Zahn's Heir to the Empire trilogy that were building up the post-RoTJ (the Star Wars: Rogue Squadron books), but the first Thrawn trilogy was the first time we got to see 'the gang back together'. The fact they had Thrawn (a non-force user) with Joruus Sabbaoth as a secondary antagonist just makes the trilogy all the more memorable/interesting than the Disney dreck we ended up getting (and that's just on the villain side).
Just a slight correction about Mara: the books acknowledge that she never actually appears in the movies - or more accurately, not at the Sarlacc pit (there have been plenty of speculations about who was portraying her in Jabba's palace under the assumption that she was depicted there, but the books were written before the Special Edition of the movies, and most of these came up in the wake of the SE release) - but they use a pretty clever way for doing it. For those who do not already know, I will not spoil anything, but I will say this: the realization of it has quite the bone-chilling effect on Luke, all because just one little detail change could have made the rescue of Han Solo go completely differently and very likely disastrously for them (and yeah, this is a way of bringing up the concept of the butterfly effect).
Back lore with Mara Jade, she brag that Palpatine & Vader had their agents on every major ship the Rebelion had to kill off the command staff. Later they rolled that into Order 66.
The thrawn trilogy honestly got me into the eu books and now I’m on Dark Journey (the 22 entry in the EU timeline) and HOLY shit.
This channel needs more views and subscribers this shit too good to be this unknown
The Thrawn trilogy will always be the real star wars sequel trilogy
facts
Think what you want about the ST, but let's not lie to ourselves; the Thrawn trlilogy is FAR from as perfect as we remember it! I read the books when I was in high school, they were over 10 years old by this time, but by God I loved them! Somuch better than the prequels! But in retrospect, I have started to see the flaws. For one, Joruus is a weak antagonist!
Well, yes, he is. He is secondary antagonist, calamity to OT heroes but mere issue for Thrawn. And even by EU scale, he is probably weaker than Night Sisters @@Chemical_Argentum
I do sincerely think this stuff was far more interesting and better than what Disney has done
Just like the Halo books are the holy grail of the original Halo story
WE haven't forgotten you EU! Great video, was born in 92' so after discovering the OG Trilogy on VHS (man that makes me feel old, older than I am) I was introduced to the EU & was HOOKED. A few yrs back I got back into collecting (TVC 3.75!) & really have fallen back in love with SW. My job since starting 4-5yrs ago has really beaten me down, draining the force from my body, creating a wound in my life. Yet, SW has helped, I've fallen in love with this galaxy again, & it has really helped in dark times. Glad I found this, I hit subscribe right away, & plan on staying!
3:44 Leia is what amounts to the Secretary of State for the New Republic. Also, the NR wasn't really "larger" than the Imp Warlords, what made them lose was more that they were using resources to fight each other instead of the NR, giving the NR time to consolidate and start their meticulous campaign of eliminating one Warlord after the other.
Great video! Please continue talking about the EU like Dark Empire Saga and the jedi academy trilogy etc
Plus a early computer game in the 1990s, Tie Fighter, subtly reinforced Thrawn as a great and enriching character in the lore and story telling.
From a more slow paced, as well as more rewarding, gaming era.
Its funny If they put some mind to it they can adapt the trilogy with a couple changes especially including the prequels
Honestly, I was expecting something along these lines when Zahn's excellent trilogy first came out; a pity.
Great video man. Looking forward to seeing what you make in the future!
12 comments? this needs to blow up and get 100000 subscribers
Such a great covering of the thrawm books, really doing them justice (unlike rebels, an i to some extent like rebels). Keep up the great work!
Can we expect more exposé, long, meaty videos like this?
I just subbbed! I’m liking your vibe and this video. I can’t wait to see more. Thanks!
Fantastic video. I’ve had the first book for some time now but never read it, you’ve convinced me to go and set some time aside to look it over.
Great video! I too hope we get to see a live action Mara Jade!
Please make more long form legends videos not many people do and it’s definitely the best area for starwars sure some is janky but man the majority is great whether it’s like training his first group of Jedi or a story specific to world building it’s great I definitely recommend the legacy of the force series and the fate of the Jedi as well
Great video dude! Keep it up
It's very well edited, very nice
To be fair... Thrawn has had three great trilogies. A great trilogy of great trilogies. You've got the Legends Heir to the Empire trilogy which kicked off the whole EU/Legends, and you've got the Canon Thrawn and Thrawn Ascendancy trilogies that are some of the best Disney era Star Wars content, regardless of what you think about Disney's handling of Star Wars as a whole. All three of these trilogies shine bright thanks to Timothy Zahn's phenomenal writing.
I've also hears that Hand of the Thrawn and other 2 "Thrawn-verse" Related books by Zahn are also as solid
@@mrzirak792 Haven't read those yet, but if they're by Zahn, then they're probably at worst A tier Star Wars books.
Great video!
I just found this channel it is great
Great Job. Great Video.
The original Thrawn Trilogy is a pure masterpiece and created one of the most popular villains in Star Wars.
New Star Wars channel!!! Good luck sir
I listened to this trilogy recently and it really is excellent
another very intersting thing: you might be familiar that german dubs most foreign movies since the dawn of time, which means luke, han, leia, etc. all have their own german voice-actors which gave us an amazing thrawn-trilogy audiobook with the original german voice acting cast, sound effects, etc etc. its brilliant
Can’t wait to see what you think of dark empire
I've watched the CW series and i like it as a whole but I've never watched Rebels and have no interest in it, i remember when older and younger fans were all raving about the show but it never interested me then and it doesn't now.
16:33 that design of the Noghri just about sums up most of "Disney Starwars" today... watered down. Loads of young fans all praise Dave Filoni (some older fans too), but i was always skeptical of him. Filoni's Ahsoka series just shows what he's always about, his whole style of storytelling and how he handles *Star Wars* is just whimsical, it's more fluff than anything else.
George Lucas always maintained that *Star Wars* is meant for "Kids" Young Boys to be precise, but it's obvious that when Lucas' Starwars blew up and became a "Culture Phenomenon" it appealed to way more than just kids, even boys. the EU further emphasized this fact; but it seems the way Dave Filoni especially sees starwas is something purely for kids and teenagers at best. Filoni should have never written thrawn in his Ahsoka series that should have been left to Zahn.
I just think Disney are always going to keep the starwars franchise as mainly appealing to kids mostly. I mean, if the Kenobi, BOBF, 3rd Season of Mando and Ahsoka are anything to go by. Andor had a more serious, adult tone and hopefully they will allow more of that, there's certainly room in the franchise to tell both younger kid-oriented stories, as well as starwars stories for much older fans in general.
But i don't know whether we're ever going to be able to get close to that George Lucas storytelling sensibility of his 6 original movies. Lucas as a storyteller just had a way of balancing lighthearted moments, but he also seemed to treat his "kid audience" back then as though they were like "intelligent" and more sophisticated i think. I hate to say it but in this era today, kids and just alot of teens and young people are way too dumbed down and have very short attention spans; and worst thing about this - Disney will always opt to keep catering to this, and as a result they will only keep watering down starwars more and more.
Always been my favorite books.
Awesome
Well done sir.
If the Chimera was transporting that many ysalamiri in the Ahsoka show then Ahsoka, Ezra, and Sabine wouldn't have had access to the force during the first season's final battle in the fortress, nor would the great mothers. Points for an original theory, but it doesn't seem nearly as plausible as the idea that they're transporting night sister corpses.
The EU is so much better than almost everything (except Rogue One and Grogu) that Disney does. To me it really is canon. When I pick up a Legends book, I always think of that guy at the Wrestling Convention that cries and says, "It's still real to me dammit!"
R1 hace few downsides imo. And so far Grogu became a cash grab, instead of what he could be. Like for real, he could be used to start some series set in far future, like reverse KOTOR
High quality vid!
the thrawn triology is the best that ever happened to and in star wars ngl, tragedy how star wars turned bad around disney takeover and discontinuation of the old canon, even worse tragedy how the took old canon stuff like thrawn and very badly put it into the new canon ):
To be fair, the Thrawn: Ascendancy trilogy (aka Young Thrawn pre-Empire) does give us an interesting insight into both the Chiss Ascendancy and Thrawn himself.
@@internetzenmaster8952 too bad that mainstream disney shows diminish all of that
These three books have been my personal episodes 7, 8 and 9 for... well forever since I first read them about two decades ago. And Disney's tries at making SW movies has only increased my conviction.
There is also a fantastic Audio Drama of the trilogy in German, with excellent professional voice actors and all the sounds and music we know and love from the movies. However, I don't know whether someting like that exists in English.
There were two trilogies in the books.
In Legends there was 1 trilogy. + 4 other books which included Hand of the Thrawn duology
Lmao!! Did you guys see that horrible miss kick at 19:10?
EXPANDED UNIVERSE GEEZ
Honestly i Like the Dark Empire Trilogy way more
Duse ex machina... The shit of god...
Picard is better than Thrawn!
I actually don't like this trilogy. I think the new version of the Thrawn trilogy is better.