Honda Grom Sprocket and Clutch Upgrade
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- čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
- Roland and I dive into a 14T front sprocket install and clutch upgrade installing 60% stiffer clutch springs and Chimera lifter plate. We explain some things we ran into that will help you should you choose to do this install, and I show a before and after demonstration in an attempt to show you whether or not these mods are worth the money. SIDENOTE: I’m not a stunter and don’t pretend to know how to lift the front tire well, I’m just trying to demonstrate the difference the clutch upgrade and 14T front sprocket makes.
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Products Used in this build:
JT Sprockets 14T Front Sprocket: amzn.to/2OocnG7
Sex Machine Racing 60% Stiffer Clutch Springs: www.steadygara...
Chimera Lifter Plate: www.steadygara...
All special parts used to complete with build:
Clutch/Spinner Remover: amzn.to/37UlW7k
Bolts: amzn.to/398A5hL
Tap: amzn.to/31iDmIB
Thumbnail by Luis- Glad to have you back buddy!
I ended up going with a 14 tooth PBI in the front and then I went up 37 in the back I also have a 40 tooth that I may try this summer but I love your channel man and you’ll always helping me if I have a question you always get back to me
Geared down real nice! How do you like 14-37?
Hey CT Gromer good to see you back with an informative and entertaining vid keep up the good work 😁
I'm really glad you enjoyed, hopefully you found value! Thanks for commenting!
Best youtuber with Grom videos, right here. Main reason I bought one ( I emailed you prior) and will CT will be the one I watch do upgrades and I will choose my upgrades based on CT's recommendations.
Love the channel bro.
Wow, thanks, thats a big compliment! I try to provide all the info I can so you can make the best decisions. I'm glad you're getting something out of the content.
Picked up a grom a couple weeks ago, I love it, your videos convinced me to get one, I’m in Fresno as well, been on an R6 for a couple years but I hope to run into the Fresno grom gang at some point
Wow, I really can't believe that! How are you liking your grom??! Especially coming from an R6 its quite a change! We can definitely make you riding in a grom group ride around Fresno a reality! Add me on instagram so I can hit you on for the next ride!
CT Gromer I’m loving the Grom, and I’ll hit you up on Instagram
That ending was so dope! I dig the love in the community
It really is awesome man, lots of groms here in Fresno.
“What are you silly, I’m still gonna send it!” Instantly liked the video after that I love your videos man you keep my grom running amazing 🙏
I know im randomly asking but does anyone know a way to get back into an instagram account?
I was stupid lost the account password. I appreciate any assistance you can give me!
@Keith Abel Instablaster :)
@Alexzander Tate Thanks for your reply. I got to the site through google and I'm in the hacking process now.
Takes quite some time so I will reply here later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
@Alexzander Tate it worked and I actually got access to my account again. I am so happy:D
Thank you so much you saved my ass !
@Keith Abel Happy to help :D
Just received my chimera intake. I'm waiting for my ecu flash and cam from DHMotoring to arrive. The clutch upgrade is next. Thanks for all your tips, links and recommendations.
Regards from Western Australia 🇦🇺
That's exactly what I'm looking to do soon as well, I already have a YOSHI RS-2, just need to get the clutch, cam and ECU taken care of
Good luck! and I'm glad you found some value in the videos :)
Just found this Channel I Love these videos 👌🏻🔥
I really appreciate the compliment, and I'm glad to hear you're enjoying the content! Hope you keep watching :)
Thank you for the great positive info !! I got protaper bars, intergrated tail light , smoked blinkers. Now I am ready to change out the sprocket and install a wheelie tube.
That's awesome! All of those cosmetic mods make a huge difference, they look so much better! Glad you're enjoying the content, thanks for commenting!
1:39 fun day that was. We're planning a ride to up Bald Mountain when it gets warmer. Gotta buy off road tires first. yee
Would love to do Bald! I'll just take the DRZ!
I wouldn't even use a drill to run the tap in, do it by hand
By hand is probably the more "right" way to do it, for sure. The drill worked though, thanks for commenting!
I am watching your sprocket n clutch video now
I appreciate you watching, thank you!
Great video!!!! My next mod. My clutch is weak. Just curious are the 3 clutch bolts you tapped the same size as stock? Same thread pitch? Thanks for the video!!!!
Hey thanks as usual for the comment and support! Yes, I used the same threading on the tap as the stock bolts which are M6 x 1.0. Good luck!
For about $70 you can snag a DRD speedometer calibrator form 12oclockLabs and fix the inaccurate speed reading. Mine was off by about 9% from the sprocket change and new tires. The speed being wrong isn’t a huge deal, but racking up more miles due to the indicated speed being high isn’t something I wanted.
That's my biggest concern is the extra miles on the odometer long term. The mph reading doesnt bother me. Might be worth it for only $70, I appreciate the heads up!
Thanks bud, great job. Really appreciate the hard work. 🤙🤙🤙
I'm very glad you enjoyed the video! Thank you for the comment!
Just subscribed as i have a 2014 Grom..
Hey bud, thanks for the comment and the sub! Means the world!
@@CTGromer ive been watching ur videos & need to do some upgrades to mine
As a journeyman millwright I would highly discourage using a tap in a drill, unless it’s impact grade
No doubt, and I am NOT a mechanic and have limited experience. However, it worked perfectly in a pinch :)
i love a little up north on the 41 from fresno in coarsegold and i’ve been wanting to get a grom so bad but just haven’t had the guts to pull the trigger yet 🤦♂️ hearing you’re in fresno makes me happy though lol
Fresno and Clovis - we ride all the time! Get one and come out with us!
Dont need to change the rear sprocket? Nice clear video :) good job
I am patiently waiting on the total 3 year review lol hahahaha
Got about 6 months more before I can do that one :)
I've done this, but I still cant get it up. 🤔 Clutch seems to slip when I dump it
Thats weird. Do you mean you've done the sprocket and the 60% springs and lifter plate, or maybe just one of them? Which did you do?
@@CTGromer springs and the lifter plate mate, just feels like when I drop the clutch it slips. I can wheelie the fz07 for days haha just not this thing 😭 @2dankkk on Instagram for my wheelies
@@skitzfalcz_drift I'll add you on Instagram and have a look! Do you have a friend that can stunt on a grom that can try yours out and tell you if they feel something is off?
It also depends on how much you weigh. I weigh 143 but I wheelie my crf300l with ease from 1st-3rd gear. I did it on my buddys 2023 grom and I got it up in 2nd no problem. Maybe it’s the experience I have on wheelies and stunts but I think that how much you weigh is a big factor on if you should do stuff to your grom or not.
Hello.. if i do 14 front .35 rear...
106 link .420 chain is the right one?
whatever stock is, I'm actually not sure how many links you need, but you can always brake a chain and cut it down.
Great video. So i do CZcams aswell mudding videos but im about to bring stunt riding and grom riding to my channel
Just checked you out! You're a savage on the grom--thanks for coming by commenting!
@@CTGromer lol thanks i have some good videos of me just sending it. Like you're channel great videos. I definitely subscribe
Best video start 👍😂👍 ever 😉🙃
You like the intro huh? I appreciate it, glad some of the local squad came out to shoot it with me! Thanks for commenting!
Great video, would you recommend going with SMR 80% clutch springs?
I guess it depends on your application, I think the 60% springs are good for most modded bikes, but from a pulling the clutch with your hand stand point, you'd probably be good with the 80% springs (which I didn't even know they made), the 60% springs full replacement doesn't make the clutch lever much harder to pull.
Do a review of your phone holder bro, and are your worried about your cameras stabilizer. Thanks
I love the Ram mount, maybe I will do that! which camera's stabilizer are you talking about? The helmet-mounted gopro?
@@CTGromer no the image stabiliation on your phone getting messed up from the vibrations of the grom
Thank you for sharing that
Godbless
Anyone else get this feeling during his install narration?
“And that Ladies and Gentlemen is how you make a plumbus”
take a dinglepop, and smooth it out with a bunch of schleem right?
What size are those taper bars ? I want the sames ones I was at the store today I was gonna get the taper bars but I ant these ones so I have more room
Protaper 7/8 DRZ/KLX 110
I just picked up the parts to do this. Do I leave it in gear? Or neutral? I don’t recall if you mentioned it.
Yes, leaving it in gear will make breaking loose some of these bolts on the clutch a little easier. Having a buddy help is even better!
such a great channel - where’d you get ur new side mirrors
I really appreciate the kind words, thank you for watching and I'm glad you're enjoying the content! I picked up the mirrors from kemi Moto- I love them! amzn.to/2qXsFNz
Those screws are steel not aluminum. If you snapped it you either have an inaccurate torque wrench or you had the torque wrench set wrong. 9 ft lb is not going to break a bolt like that.
Whatever it was they were soft, and I ended up doing the next ones by hand because of that.
@@CTGromer I get that it's just that 9 foot pounds is a very very small amount of torque so maybe that bolt was defective I don't know.
oof, no star pattern when tightening the bolts at the end.
I appreciate it, it all worked out in the end thankfully! This project turned into a pain in the ass!
Dope content want to get to your level one day
I really appreciate it brother, get a grom and start recording your mods!
One question having an issue after assembly of the clutch not engaging I fully put everything back together but I cannot for the life of me get this thing to properly engage
It sounds like it was not put back together correctly, OR the clutch cable is not adjusted correctly, or both. Watch the video link I have in the description of this video for Photogrommers video of the clutch, his is really good and may help.
Hey there CT. Just came across your vid for the first time. Def subscribing!
I have a question regarding your setup. Did you already have a big bore kit when you installed the springs, clutch plate, sprocket? Thank you n looking forward to more videos!
I’m curious to know because I’m thinking of upgrading to everything you mentioned here. However, I don’t have a big bore kit so it might not even be worth it
No, I did not and still do not have big bore kit, but my grom makes significantly more power than stock, so I thought, why not. Also hated how much the clutch slips when trying to wheelie.
CT Gromer thank you
I bought a Kitaco clutch cover so while I was there, I installed a high flow oil pump, stiffer springs, spring plate. I don't wheelie my bike but am looking at installing a 14 tooth sprocket and new chain for more torgue. I installed a cam and flashed ECU. Between the cam and oil spinner delete, I lost a lot of low end and midrange torgue. I installed a Koso instrument cluster with the steady garage dash to clean it up. With the Koso cluster, I should be able to adjust the tire diameter to compensate for the 14t sprocket. Is this 14t sprocket going to hurt top end? I'm concerned where the rpms are going to be at going 55-58mph for prolonged rides.
Man, lots of good mods there! I run the 14T to compensate for the lost low end. Yes, it does affect the top end, not by a whole lot, but if your focus is top speed, I might keep the 15T on the front.
hey! I've been looking to do this for a while, but I was curious if this would work with my 2020 Grom- and on the amazon the "fit check" says it wont work with my model... should I just ignore it?
What parts are you specifically referring to?
Thank you
And second, great video
I appreciate the compliment brother, thank you!
I snapped my clutch pressure plate and marred the outer clutch really badly because I went past the “tough feeling” and tried to go to 9 foot lb’s…
Did you drill all the way through the 3 new pressure plate holes before tapping them because 20mm screws are to long to fit in the holes if you just use a bottom tap without drilling all the way through.
The pressure plate was pre-drilled all the way through already, yes. The 20mm fit perfect. I replaced all six screws with 20mm screws I got from Ace Hardware.
@@CTGromer I have a 2020 and the 3 not used holes on the pressure plate were not drilled all the way through. The 3 that are used were. And i didnt know that other ppls plates were all the way through on all six unlike mine. I wound up putting 16mm screws in stead of 20mm for the 3 holes and used 20mm in the other 3 and it went together better
nipple clutch pull! is it worth upgrading the air intake without upgrading the exhaust? in your tests you never showed what just the air intake does, could you do that to your sf and see what it changes compared to stock.
Man, I would if I still had one! But you're right, that would be a legit test! It would help, no doubt, but ideally you want more air/fuel to flow in AND out better. The stock airbox is super restrictive though, so it will help, just don;t know by how much.
HELP! I installed a after market 5 disc clutch, new clutch plate and springs. After putting everything back together I’m UNABLE to get the crank case cover to line up. It’s like it’s binding around the bearing for the oil spinner and the rod under the clutch basket. If anyone has any help for me please let me know!!
Yeah! Always connect to other gromigos! Already startet the gromspiracy over here in europe :D we're on IG so far, viva #gromspiracy ! ❤️keep up your exciting videos!❤️ - grow the spirit!
I'll have to add you on Instagram... in fact I think I already follow you, I'll make sure I do! Thank you for the comment!
@@CTGromer what's your nick on ig? Was sure to already have you nur can't find you 😅🙈🤷♂️
I've only seen three other groms in my area and one of them was wrecked on a curb. 😱 I wish I would of been on my Grom so I could of chased them down!😂
Have you tried to change the rubber dampers in the rear wheel?
Why not slap some clutch packs in to since you are in there
Fresno!!! Let’s go!
Hell yeah! Fresno has a good grom scene thats constantly growing!
CT Gromer yessir. I’m seeing more and more groms!! I’m a newbie rider but get better and better
HELLO! Found your channel while searching if a Grom is worth purchasing. On the surface it absolutely seems likely.
Possibly do you know the best site/place to purchase one? In total, I would like to spend no more than 2500$.
And truthfully even that seems out of reach because my health issues impair me socially, getting a job is hard. Hopefully i get this Census job cause if I do without a doubt i need and will get SOMETHING motorized.
I'm 21 and have been dealing with health issues as a kid and depression is getting worse day by day.. one day when I was 19 while riding a MOTORIZED BIKE i had a blast...at just under 20 mph.... I just want to get something where I can be alone and ease my mind.
Please, hoping you can help me out.
Hey David, I really appreciate you sharing some of your personal life on here like this. It takes guts. I feel for you, I suffer from significant social anxiety, especially in business, and I'm in sales! Riding a motorcycle for me is better than any drug to ease the tension, decompress, destress and go on a solo adventure. Free of everyone and everything else. It's empowering and therapeutic! I really hope you get your census job as well. As far as a grom, you can absolutely get into a clean slightly used grom for $2,500 or less. I would check your local Facebook Marketplace. I've actually purchased all five motorcycles I've ever owned on there. I've heard LetitGO App and Craigslist can be good too, but I like Facebook most. Where are you from? If you'd like to talk more about it, add me on Instagram, and DM me: dsimon11.
Thanks
Hope you enjoyed it :) Thanks for watching.
This helps me a lot to pop up wheelie
I never trust the adjuster alignment marks. Always use a motion pro alignment tool.
Lol I don't even know what that is. But I'll look it up. I do have a digital caliper tool I'll check both sides with on occasion.
Hey man I put the 60% springs in and there was 6 springs but anyways my clutch feels super soft and doesn’t feel right. Got any ideas what it could be? Everything is put back in right.
VERIFY that everything is put back in right, and then adjust the cable correctly.
@@CTGromer everything was installed right and i adjusted the clutch cable and still super soft. here are the parts i installed.
SEX MACHINE RACING 6PC CLUTCH SPRING 60% STIFFER UPGRADE HONDA GROM
CHIMERA V2 CNC LIFTER CLUTCH PLATE HONDA GROM
MODIFIED (6 BOLT) GENUINE HONDA OEM CLUTCH PRESSURE PLATE - HONDA GROM 125
could any of these parts be the issue? thanks.
@@CTGromer I figured out what it was nothing to do with the assembly it was the actuator. I put a different one in and it was the yuminashi crf110 manual clutch kit actuator that I used from a buddy of mine and it’s spot on
@@AustinBruceFlows Glad you figured it out man!
What is the stock front sprocket teeth before?
15 tooth
Try your 2nd gear wheelies around 14 mph
What helmet is that in the thumbnail?
Don’t fallow his torque sped it not 37 foot pounds it’s only 9 lbs
Right thread on the tap? Or left orientation?
Cut new threads going clock wise-- is that right orientation?
Guess so. First two taps I found one was right one was left. Confused me haha.
Love the vids.
so I'm thinking sprocket clutch and bbk
if you're gonna go BBK, you might consider doing the kitaco clutch cover and oil cooler as well to try to curb the potential to overheat. just a thought.
I accidentally removed the bolt to the gear drum stopper and after installing and putting everything back I can’t shift the bike goes from 1st to 4th instantly and drops back down to 1st with the slightest tap. Neutral is non existent please help.
Did you ever figure it out?
@@ianlandis4628 honestly got the bolt back on and lined the shifter arm up the best I could to match what gear I was in then got it started and it’s been fine since
where did you get that honda cover for your protapers?
Looks awesome, right? www.ebay.com/itm/7-9-Red-Black-HONDA-DIRT-BIKE-Motorcyle-Motorcross-Handlebar-Cross-Bar-Pad-OB/282652528932?hash=item41cf675124:g:~IYAAOSw23lZudS0
Does it affect top end speed?
What bars are these?
What would a 16 to do?
37 ft/lbs for those 2 little sprocket bolts???
Hasn't blown up yet!
CT Gromer just seems like a lot haha! Recently discovered mine was missing the retainer so I’m picking one up today
Called the clutch assembly a clutch sandwich. Then I got hungry.
LOL! It sort of reminds me of a sandwich with all the fixings!
And don’t use a drill to tap the clutch basket use a proper adjustable t handle then you don’t make a mess of it
Dude loved what you did with the 6 bolt lifter plate, nice 👍👍👍
I really appreciate the compliment- I definitely sleep better knowing its got six bolts in it now! Thanks for watching!
@@CTGromer No bro thanks for posting!!!
Great vid man! Sent you another email as well 👍
Hey David, just got right back to you, thanks for always watching!
No lie a z125 comes up so much easier with just changing the front to 14
I know I’m late to the party here, but does all these parts fit on a Kawasaki z125? I’m in the market for one of them cause they’re cheaper than the grom
No- they look similar, but completely different parts, nothing (that I know of) is interchangeable.
CT Gromer okay. Thank you
You didn't have to make 3 more holes. the problem is the screws are so bad that come with it so just change the screws and problem solve 👍🏻
I think you're right. 10.9 class screws would've helped.... so i did that AND threaded the other 3 holes... mostly because I am into overkill!
Hey bro I just got my grom and live in CT as well. You wanna meet up sometime and hooligan around lol?? Let me know bro
Wish I could! I live in California, the CT in my name refers to the CT90 or Honda Trail 90, the first bike I ever had.
Are you asking him or me? Paid $2,500 for mine!
Why would u use a drill when using a tap? Wtf
Never done it any other way, turned out perfect! Like I said, I'm not a mechanic.
I saw my bike! Hahaha
Giant orange bike in a pack of groms, how can you miss it!? Is this the day you fell in the grass?
@@CTGromer it is! Hahaha we gotta get the clip from frank, also I gotta get a gopro too and we can maybe do some vlogs
make a new video please
Working on it, it should be up in the next 48 hrs!
Any change in top speed?
I'm actually not sure. It now can rev higher in 4th gear, but its probably off by 5-6 mph when my speedo is now showing me 70mph. I need to GPS it. I'll bet I can still get 65mph on the GPS.
Don't buy the exact clutch and oil spinner tool he shows because it barely lets the extension in the socket while fitting on the oil spinner nut. Look for one a bit longer
The clutch assembly and basket is all stock, the only thing I changed was the clutch springs and lifter plate. Thanks for commenting.
@@CTGromer my mistake im trying to help. I meant the exact tool to take the 2 things off
@@traxxasLOVR Ohh I see what you're saying now. Yeah, I've heard that there's barely enough reach on some of those to get the spinner because of how deep the spinner is. Good lookin out!
The tourqe wrench broke it cause it wasn’t 1/4 inch
True, made do with what I had. Ended up getting the correct drivers and taking it to 47 lbs/ft. Left the break in for comedy. Hope you laughed!
Please tell me what size and bars those are !! Ha
These bars are 7/8 Protaper DRZ/KLX110 bars. Love them!
So u went from a 13 to a 14?
No, I went from the stock 15T front to a 14T front. Thanks for the clarification!
@@CTGromer hehe yeah i was really confused cause that would make it worse, thanks alot!
hold the clutch in half, rev it and let go of the clutch and it wil go up
I've been practicing some more, the problem is I don't fully commit because I don't truly want to stunt, and I do not want to crash!
CT Gromer ive driven trial for 6 years, and have a some experience riding and i really want to buy a grom thanks to your inspirational videos
Did anybody else cringe when he used the drill to cut the threads😬
It all worked out man- like I said- not a mechanic!
Should probably learn how to wheelie first.....
This is true.
1st Xd
You're on it! Thanks for commenting!
What helmet is that on the thumbnail?
It's an Icon Variant- love this helmet!