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  • This is a detailed overview of my assembly table. I discuss the table, accessories, set-up, and versatility of this assembly table.
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  • @alholston-smith7631
    @alholston-smith7631 Před rokem +5

    A little known option, Festool sells the MFT side rails in different lengths, I got some 1900mm side rails, which just replace the standard 800 rail on my older MFT 800 table, this gave me the length of two tables connected together, for the small cost of the long side rail (around $100) and the cost of an additional MFT top. I added a bit of 3/4 oak to fill,the gap between the two tops to get a replaceable wear strip. You can do something similar with the current new MFT tables.
    Dashboard makes some great accessories for their version of the MFT table, many of which will work on the Festool MFT table setup, including a fence system similar to the Benchdog fence, for less $. I recently added the Dashboard Surface mount fence, which uses locking dogs to align and lock the fence down. Works quite well, and gives the option of using it with their Track Stars, to get wider cuts on s standard width MFT table. I can get up to 30-inch wide cross cuts, with material fully supported.
    Cheers

  • @waltcorey5115
    @waltcorey5115 Před 2 lety +1

    Jason, terrific video! Thanks and happy holidays!

  • @felipepinales8409
    @felipepinales8409 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Hey Jason, I’ve been a subscriber for a while, and I have a few things I’d like to say. The conciseness in your videos is unmatched. Your video about inset hinges inspired me to build a full set of shop cabinets. All your tips I took to heart, and they helped me so much. In regard to this video, I’m fortunate enough to replicate what you have with the MFTs and the cross cut tools. You are humble, even though you have millions of dollars of tools (probably). I sincerely appreciate your content and looking forward to what the future holds. Best.

  • @larrycurran7005
    @larrycurran7005 Před 2 lety +2

    Really slick setup. Looking forward to seeing what improvements you make for your new assembly table. I have been looking at the dashboard track mounts myself for my MFT table. Appreciate your demo of them. Best of luck on your new table build and thanks for the great video.

  • @LaserGarage
    @LaserGarage Před 2 lety +2

    Another awesome video, I love this setup and will be doing something similar in the future. Thank you for sharing.

  • @shamilton5000
    @shamilton5000 Před 2 lety +1

    Great explanation. Very well thought out system. Thanks for sharing.

  • @GJCOrado
    @GJCOrado Před 2 lety +2

    TSO sells the UJK Parf system to make your own MFT style table top and then make your own table with the side track system you want that is compatible with PWS system.

  • @evans_workshop
    @evans_workshop Před 2 lety +7

    Jason - Great description. Love the setup! For those concerned about the cut into the MFT, you could always route out a 3/4” by 1/2” deep or so dado and make a replaceable insert to go into the table. Going to look into those Dash components for my shop! Thanks and have a great holiday!

  • @steenfraosterbro3268
    @steenfraosterbro3268 Před rokem +2

    I have almost the same set up. one MFT turned the "wrong way" like yours, and then I bought two long side profiles from Festool and made in into one table (not 3). I have clamping on all 4 sides and one unbroken MDF surface with dog holes only where I need them (made with the Parf Guide). Finally I build in a routerlift in one end.

  • @CPBuilds
    @CPBuilds Před 2 lety +2

    Thanks for the mention. Glad you’re enjoying the RAB items. I love my Dashboard brackets as well. They are so nice to use. No complaints whatsoever.

  • @bigredracingdog466
    @bigredracingdog466 Před rokem +2

    I've seen folks who rout an 8 mm dado into their MFT top and then cut a piece of MDF to put in it with a press fit. That way they're cutting into the sacrificial piece, not the MFT top. When that strip starts to get sloppy, they simply cut a new strip and replace the old one.

  • @pierresimon9839
    @pierresimon9839 Před 2 lety +2

    This set up is awesome! I made the same one but built a 2x4 & plywood base with locking wheels and added leg levelers. This table is so versatile. I can also store all my tools underneath, assemble cabinets on top and break down 8 foot plywood sheets into smalller sizes to handle solo on my table saw. It’s a little pricey but you will earn your money back with the amount of different setups and time saved! Genius!

  • @TheLastPharm
    @TheLastPharm Před 11 měsíci

    One thing for everyone you keep in mind is that the MFT was conceived as a portable jobsite work table to work in conjunction with a broader system. I have 3 MFT's at the moment, but use mostly just one at any given time because I have limited space and can't leave it standing overnight, much less all three of them at the same time. If I had the room for three tables like this set-up, I would definitely go for a homemade mega-table with a 3060 or 4080 aluminum extrusion frame, no question. And you could still use all your dashboard attachments with more ease than now as you would no longer have the table connectors blocking your slots as you do now (small but practical detail 😉)
    It's like you said, Jason- everyone has their own preferences and a work table is a perfect example of personal space: you gotta make it your own.
    Great video and clear explanation! 👍

  • @kiwdwks
    @kiwdwks Před 2 lety +11

    A great work bench for sure! The game changer for me was making an MFT style top on a hydraulic lift table. The ability of raising and lowering your worksurface/whatever is on it, has been the bomb. Thanks for your videos/knowledge!

  • @robertkrueger3902
    @robertkrueger3902 Před 2 lety +4

    Fantastic , Love it. I own the dashboard and bench dog rigs . Only difference I used the the part guid system to build out my table. I used the Rockler table set ups . If I had the means I would do the three MFT's I like your rig. I think the dashboard products are just great and he is a small business and I love that he brought his ideas to market .

  • @grumpywiseguy5992
    @grumpywiseguy5992 Před 8 měsíci +6

    The one overriding feature to the MFT is that it is precisely aligned at the factory. Every hole is precisely aligned to every other hole on the table. The holes are precisely drilled to 20mm. the entire table is this way. THAT means that you can buy it, set it up and start to work without ever worrying about this stuff. I made my own table, larger than the MFT, but the amount of effort it took to make sure that everything I did ended up with the same precision as the Festool table was, in the end, not worth it. Just buy the table, and get to work. A 3hp Sawstop saw in 5 grand these days and no one even blinks for that. A Robust American Beauty lathe is north of 10 grand!! So, buy the table and be happy.

  • @terryduprie6313
    @terryduprie6313 Před 2 lety +1

    Very nice and thanks for the video. I have a similar setup utilizing 2 MFTs connected together and set on top of a rolling base. This allows me to slide sheet goods from the back of my pickup through my shop doors directly onto the table for easier handling and breakdown. I would like to have 3 MFTs like yours, but my shop space could not handle the increased footprint. These systems work very well.

  • @matthewbyington2418
    @matthewbyington2418 Před 2 lety +1

    Great explanation man! 🤙

  • @murrayirwin9221
    @murrayirwin9221 Před 2 lety +6

    Great Vid - thanks. One of the (few) downsides to the MFT3 design, is that if you place the tables side by side as you have, the holes in adjacent tables are not exactly 96mm apart between the two tables. If you were to make a new top using parf sticks, you can have a single tabletop piece spanning all three tables, sitting in the tables by scoring the underside of the tables along the edges where the festool profile prevent the original tops from moving, then the whole thing can be set up at 96mm spacings.

    • @bentswoodworking
      @bentswoodworking  Před 2 lety +1

      That’s a valid point however I have never had a scenario that it impacted me negatively

  • @DerekHauser
    @DerekHauser Před 2 lety +1

    I had emailed Jason a while back for this exact information. I am impressed with it so far.

  • @wr3ckn89
    @wr3ckn89 Před 2 lety +18

    I built the exact setup earlier this year. I build a lot of cabinets and this setup has been absolutely amazing. It was worth every penny and have not one single regret. I did contact bench dogs and had a custom fence made that is around 80" so i could make longer repeatable cuts. Also the new metal flag stops from Benchdogs are way nicer than the original, highly recommend them.

  • @6453bianchi
    @6453bianchi Před 2 lety +1

    Awesome video man. You always explain everything to a T. That setup is a dream for most. Shit I just want a festool tracksaw let alone a entire setup like that. Thumbs up

  • @rnmaa1914
    @rnmaa1914 Před 2 lety +2

    You are an amazing mentor, Jason! If I want to follow your shop setup like I have been doing, I need to start writing my Santa letter from January. Happy holidays!

    • @bentswoodworking
      @bentswoodworking  Před 2 lety

      Glad you found it helpful!

    • @rnmaa1914
      @rnmaa1914 Před 2 lety +1

      @@bentswoodworking Does the TSO large square worth the top $s?

    • @bentswoodworking
      @bentswoodworking  Před 2 lety

      @@rnmaa1914 yes!

    • @rnmaa1914
      @rnmaa1914 Před 2 lety

      @@bentswoodworking would love to see a 5 minute video on this when you can please

  • @michellegatz7077
    @michellegatz7077 Před 2 lety +1

    Excellent video

  • @andy2253
    @andy2253 Před 6 měsíci

    I am going to do this and I will set it up so I am 1/8” below my table saw and use the right unabstructed area of the table as my out feed. I am setting my table-saw with the Incra fence and router table all in one. I can throw a 1” thick piece of insulation on top of the 3 MFTs and use it for my track saw table. This will allow me to have a very productive island in the center of my shop.

  • @alirazvi7129
    @alirazvi7129 Před 2 lety +1

    Nice video as always 👍🤩

  • @kyleolson8977
    @kyleolson8977 Před 2 lety +1

    I wish I had ordered the bracket right when I saw the video. You sold them out right away! Oh well, waiting list.
    It's always good to find interesting products from these smaller companies. I think you may have indirectly also pointed me towards the apron I am looking for.
    I only switched to the MFT/3 last week as part of building my new shop. I wasn't sure if I was going to do it, but I felt like I was wasting a little too much time for some cuts. I find the table works pretty well, but the brackets don't work quite as easily as they should. I wouldn't be shocked to see a big upgrade whenever there's an MFT/4.
    The MFT/3 brackets do work better than the ones on my old Kreg Master Cutting System table, but pretty much everything on that table has at least one little or big issue. The only thing the table had going was cut size, but I gave up on the build in track pretty quick because I simply could not trust it and because I had to use what was clearly a lesser track saw. The Kreg Cutting System is perhaps the Kreg-est of products, which is a discussion for another day. The system table only survives because it has holes and hasn't fallen apart, but that's on it's way to changing as the aluminum fatigues. The rest was shipped elsewhere.

    • @bentswoodworking
      @bentswoodworking  Před 2 lety +1

      I don’t think there will be a wait list for too long. This is definitely worth the wait

  • @thomasemberson8021
    @thomasemberson8021 Před 2 lety +1

    Excellent video. Thank you! I'm about to make a new bench, and I have a board room door that I am going to use as my top. It is almost perfectly flat, and is solid (quality) particle board. It's got a lot of mass. And a exceptionally nice lament surface.
    I was going to split it to have a 2 to 3" channel, like a split Roubo top (Wood Whisperer), for clamping options. The big thing that I need, is bottom side storage! What I am going to do now, is pick the exterior dimensions of this table to 3 MFT tops, organized the same as you. Don't know if I will follow your lead here. But, want to make sure my cabinet base will allow it nicely!
    thank you, again.

  • @dan.w.hoover2556
    @dan.w.hoover2556 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Great - thank you!

  • @robertschumacher1787
    @robertschumacher1787 Před 2 lety +2

    It's an honor to be included! Thank you very much.

    • @wr3ckn89
      @wr3ckn89 Před 2 lety +2

      Great product, Ive had my Dashboard rail hinges for over a year and they are amazing!

    • @bentswoodworking
      @bentswoodworking  Před 2 lety

      You’re welcome

    • @reganmoore328
      @reganmoore328 Před 2 lety +1

      I have Robs (dashboard) bench and fences as well as the rail hinges ….All his stuff is awesome
      And this channel is what led me to him.
      Thanks Jason and Rob

  • @NWGR
    @NWGR Před 2 lety +1

    I had no idea there were aftermarket track brackets. That's a game changer for me, as I don't want to buy an MFT. I can fashion my own for far cheaper even with the additional cost of the track bracket and some 80/20. Excellent video, thanks Jason!

  • @pawpawstew
    @pawpawstew Před 2 lety +3

    That's an outstanding setup, but admittedly beyond my paygrade as a hobbyist. Still, the functionality and layout gives me a few nuggets to use when I build my bench. Thanks for sharing, Jason. 👍🤜

  • @petermullen8592
    @petermullen8592 Před 2 lety +1

    thx, great video.

  • @davelittle5638
    @davelittle5638 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Great video. Just ordered my 3 MTFs, and trying to orders your other supply list.
    Question - those arrows to line it up between the dog holes - do you remember where you purchased them?
    Thanks!!

  • @JustTony72
    @JustTony72 Před 2 lety +1

    I have a Parf table the same size as yours as the moment and it's awesome. Given me the capability to build much more stuff in a smaller area. I know it's going to be an expensive but I'm considering getting the same thing.

    • @bentswoodworking
      @bentswoodworking  Před 2 lety

      I really love this setups

    • @JustTony72
      @JustTony72 Před 2 lety

      ​@@bentswoodworking. I recently saw Festool uncut 2m MFT rails available from my Festool dealer. Was it available when you built this assembly table. If so, what benefit did you see in having 3 separate joined MFT vs 1 customer built one?

  • @manuzach
    @manuzach Před 2 lety +1

    Oh man! You just saved me $700…I really wanted the adjustable track thing and that dashboard accessory fits the bill

  • @greggibson7485
    @greggibson7485 Před 14 dny

    Where did you pick up those alignment arrows you referenced at about the 6min mark in this video? Thank you!

  • @keving8682
    @keving8682 Před 2 lety +3

    Thanks for the video - I had never heard of Dashboard PWS before. As soon as you mentioned them I lost another hour looking at their website and videos! Neat products and I like that they also designed their products to work with Bosch/Mafell and Incra.

  • @johnjeffries6229
    @johnjeffries6229 Před rokem

    Awesome build! @bent I know you’re working to replace the Rockler build it kits you used for the base but do you mind sharing what you ended up ordering from them to make this base?

  • @AngieWilliamsDesigns
    @AngieWilliamsDesigns Před 2 lety +1

    I would love to have this set up. I think maybe I could start with one and add on. As well as start with one and maybe make my own for the other two sides. The accuracy is worth the time to set it up and the original cost to build it. Thanks for sharing.

  • @rbrown2925
    @rbrown2925 Před rokem

    Great vid, thanks. What length guide rail are you using-1400 mm? I noticed that you’re cutting parallel to the long side of the MFTs so I assume the 1080 that comes with the full-meal-deal MFT is too short (since it’s meant for cutting perpendicular to the long side).
    Edit: Never mind. I can see in a screen capture that 1400 is printed on the rail.

  • @WasimBarri
    @WasimBarri Před 2 lety +1

    Enjoyed your video.
    BTW I've seen many MFTs that have a replaceable insert in a routed out groove instead of cutting into the top.

    • @bentswoodworking
      @bentswoodworking  Před 2 lety +1

      I considered that before but I don’t mind cutting into it

    • @johnclements6614
      @johnclements6614 Před rokem

      You can get them mail order in the UK with a 6mm thick insert fixed by double sided tape.

  • @bdamiaz
    @bdamiaz Před rokem +1

    Love your site. It's a fantastic place for gaining knowledge. In your Ultimate Assembly CZcams you didn't mention cutting 4 x 8 sheet goods. If you had the right length rail - would that be possible? I guess that would be called a rip cut vs cross cut. Appreciate your input.

    • @bentswoodworking
      @bentswoodworking  Před rokem

      You could but then you would need a much larger table. It wouldn’t be easy to manipulate. I rip all my plywood first on the table just with a long rail. Then I move to cross cutting everything with this setup

    • @bdamiaz
      @bdamiaz Před rokem

      @@bentswoodworking Yup - I've since seen that in your plywood cutting video.

  • @jondelamarter9658
    @jondelamarter9658 Před rokem

    When setting up your table, did you consider just buying a Dash-Board PWS, and if so, what led you a different direction? Thanks! Love the channel and thank you for your service!!!

  • @rkon02
    @rkon02 Před 2 lety +3

    The time of this video is perfect because I have watched your other video a few times this week. I have been searching for ideas on a new assembly table for my shop. Owning 2 MFTs drew me to this setup.
    Does the space under the MFT provide enough space to easily put your hand in there and grab tools? Also, I’m very interested in how your new base for this setup is going designed. Thanks for the excellent videos and impeccable detail explaining you provide.

  • @user-pg4gx6vb8l
    @user-pg4gx6vb8l Před 8 měsíci

    Great video! I also was wondering if you had an opinion on the TSO MFT Aligned Guide Rail Support Upgrade Kit? It doesn't seem quite as robust as the Dashboard upgrade, but seems like a reasonable lower price option. Thanks!

  • @kmsand5905
    @kmsand5905 Před 4 měsíci

    Hi Jason, purchased my table now starting to build my cabinets. Can you tell me what product the initial triangles are that you used to set up the track?

  • @lrr1952
    @lrr1952 Před rokem +1

    Your setup is really nice! But I am confused about the comment that if you cut over the aluminum channel there would be tearout. And therefore cutting on the table’s MDF surface is preferred. Do you not use the replaceable tearout strip on the track to prevent tearout on the bottom side of your cut?

  • @andrewcadd
    @andrewcadd Před 2 lety +5

    Another great video, Jason. Nice work!
    Having used a home made Ron Paulk style for a couple of years I'm about to invest $$$$ in the Byington-inspired system very similar to yours.
    I've already got the excellent Benchdogs UK fence and equally great Dash-Board rail arm.
    I'm currently considering whether to buy the well-designed Dash-Board PWS table or invest in multiple MFTs as you did. I note you have a Dash-Board track star as well.
    Did you consider investing in the Dash-Board table as an alternative? I'm guessing you went for multiple MFTs because of the larger overall cutting and assembly workspace it provided.
    One thing that appealed to me about the Dash-board table is that Rob at Dash-board also sells an accessory intended to hold doors/windows vertically that would be very useful for dealing with. That feature would need to be built into the cabinetry for your set up, and I was wondering if you were thinking about adding a similar feature into your upcoming cabinet base rebuild.

    • @bentswoodworking
      @bentswoodworking  Před 2 lety +2

      I am very intrigued by his setup, however the size is why I chose to go this route.

  • @davidtroncoso9313
    @davidtroncoso9313 Před 2 lety +1

    Jason, again this is awesome! I will build this! Please, please, please make a drawing with details when you produce the new base! By the way I tried to order the metal benches from Rockler that you used on this original base. They are out of stock!

    • @bentswoodworking
      @bentswoodworking  Před 2 lety +1

      On the new one I don’t plan on using the Rockler bases. 👍

  • @jasonautry24
    @jasonautry24 Před 2 lety +1

    When you re-build your base, you should totally make your own custom MFT. I think it would be a very popular video, and most people could relate.

    • @bentswoodworking
      @bentswoodworking  Před 2 lety +1

      It would be cool but I don’t know if I will do that cause then I would have MFTs to get rig of 🤣

  • @m1chi13l
    @m1chi13l Před rokem

    Hey mate, great explanation
    My question - I'm torn between buying the benchdogs fence, or their rail square with repeat stop. As I'm a hobbyist, I presume I'll be making most use of the square + stop, but I imagine it's slightly inferior for cabinet grade work to a solid, squared fence. Have you tried this repeat stop and how does it compare to the fence?

  • @izzychen7537
    @izzychen7537 Před 2 lety +1

    Great set up, I wish I could build one too. MFT tables in Israel are close to $3000 USD each (yup)!.

  • @tombola9445
    @tombola9445 Před 2 lety +1

    I've just bought the parf guide system with fence and super dogs etc. And the aluminium profile to handle an 8x4 sheet of mrdf all for less than £700. I believe that's less than one mft. You could bump that £700 up to £1000 when I get my rail brackets.

    • @WCS2719
      @WCS2719 Před rokem

      Which aluminium profile did you use? Will it fit the Dashboard rail guide and other Festool accessories? Thanks.

  • @LeoDodier
    @LeoDodier Před měsícem

    Hello Jason, I'm not sure if you get notified of comments to older videos, but I have a quick question. I want to order the fence system and Benchdog does not make the 1450 mm version any longer. They only have 1000 mm or connecting two of them to make a 2000 mm fence. What is your advice? Will 1000 mm be enough or should I consider connecting to fences and cutting off the second fence to make it 1450 mm. Thank

  • @coastalcreekwoodworks8795

    Is there a reason that you used the triangles to square the track first and then re-squared it again to the fence?

  • @Luckde10
    @Luckde10 Před 4 měsíci

    After much consideration I have decided to move to using metric measurements as my standard in the shop. Curious what your opinion is on the highest quality measurement and marking tools offered in metric. Thx, always enjoy you content.

  • @jerrymclauchlin6471
    @jerrymclauchlin6471 Před 5 měsíci

    Jason, I am new to woodworking. I've watched many of your videos. You provide so much useful information! Today I would like to ask what brand the base of your work table is. I would also like to know what brand the side rails are. I know you use a Festool MFT surface. Please answer me asap as I would love to get a table built asap.

  • @AM-zr5md
    @AM-zr5md Před rokem

    At 10.57, when you use the triangle to check for square… what was the point of using the dogs and arrows earlier if you’re doing to do that?

  • @davezink778
    @davezink778 Před rokem

    Jason, the fence support piece you position at the cut line. First, why do you feel it necessary? Is it integral to the measuring system and second, how did you position it so the saw blade does not strike it. Just it bit more detail, please.

  • @seancrowley7520
    @seancrowley7520 Před 2 lety +1

    hi. great work surface. i am curious about your method(s) for breaking down from 4x8 sheets. table saw? long track? 40" capacity for rips is great but i'm curious jow to get there first. Thanks in advance.

    • @bentswoodworking
      @bentswoodworking  Před 2 lety

      Check out my video I recently posted on breaking down sheet goods.

  • @glockguide
    @glockguide Před 13 dny

    Are you still utilizing the assembly table for these types of crosscuts after getting the sliding table saw? Not that I'm thinking about a sliding table saw - just curious how the work and the thought process changes as tools change.

  • @limeyflyer2190
    @limeyflyer2190 Před 2 měsíci

    Jason, can you please share where you got those set up arrows? I just got my first MFT/3 and I now realize I want one of each item in this video.

    • @carlgirolami8973
      @carlgirolami8973 Před 25 dny

      The set up arrows are from dashboard pws but they aren’t needed in this set up. The track is square off the fence not the mft top. Albeit minor variances

  • @michaelkaye4998
    @michaelkaye4998 Před rokem +1

    I have my three MFTs and they are oriented as yours are. I am installing the BD rail system. Now my next project is the base. In the video you mentioned that the base is 4x8 or was it just the top? I believe you used Rockler product to build the base frame and then put a top on it? Can you enumerate the pieces used for the base structurer? Thanks

    • @bentswoodworking
      @bentswoodworking  Před rokem

      The 48” brackets and the legs are 18” if I remember correctly. The are the shorter of the two options they have

  • @georgenachman2329
    @georgenachman2329 Před 2 měsíci

    Who makes the arrows?

  • @ravenheart1439
    @ravenheart1439 Před 7 měsíci

    That's very impressive forsure...

  • @AngieWilliamsDesigns
    @AngieWilliamsDesigns Před 8 měsíci +1

    I still have just the one MFT. And I'm definitely still considering getting a second. Probably will. But when I watch this video and see how much capacity you have on that table... It makes me want to save my quarters. LOL

    • @bentswoodworking
      @bentswoodworking  Před 8 měsíci +1

      There is really nice. It’s basically a 4x8 table.

  • @jonathanalexander1732
    @jonathanalexander1732 Před 2 lety +1

    Love the design! I was wondering what your solution for cutting angled cuts with that set up would be since the original MFT accessories offered that solution and the Dash-Board is only for 90-degree cuts?

    • @jonathanalexander1732
      @jonathanalexander1732 Před 2 lety +1

      My ultimate question is, if you already owned a 55 inch Festool track, would you purchase just the MFT3 or get the MFT3 kit if you plan to upgrade to the Dash-Board Guide Rail Brackets?

    • @bentswoodworking
      @bentswoodworking  Před 2 lety

      Just the MFT. I would use other means for angles. 👍

  • @AngieWilliamsDesigns
    @AngieWilliamsDesigns Před rokem +1

    I finally have an MFT. I don’t think I would do 3 of them. But I can definitely see the benefit of having two. Yesterday I was cutting some. Having the greater crosscut capacity would be really nice.
    I’m curious why you like the bench dogs fence over the Festool fence? So far my biggest issue with the Festool one is not having a ruler on it.

    • @brianb3107
      @brianb3107 Před rokem +1

      I opted for the benchdogs fence as well because the festool fence wasn't very sturdy, which threw off square.

  • @CraigularjJoeWoodworks
    @CraigularjJoeWoodworks Před 11 měsíci

    I can’t bring myself to buy a rickety MFT…A set up from the dashboard company must be equally expensive. Worth it… I’m saving up

  • @trumanbeal5668
    @trumanbeal5668 Před 2 lety +1

    I am setting up my shop to be really similar to this with 3 mfts as well

  • @davidweiss1135
    @davidweiss1135 Před 3 měsíci

    Can someone provide me with the specific imperial fence I would buy (plus stop) in the US? Website is a bit confusing.

  • @roncunning3117
    @roncunning3117 Před 2 lety +1

    The timing of your video is perfect. I just received my two additional MFT’s and the Dashboard and Benchdogs setup’s are on the way. I spent some time yesterday trying to lineup/adjust the tables together, using the legs the tables come with, just to realize that’s tough to do. So, I think having the tables setting on a solid base is imperative. I would have ordered the Rockler base setup, but the components aren’t available right now. You mentioned you were going build a new bench, which is what I’m looking at now. Will you modify the base you have or build one from scratch? I’m inspired by the setup Matthew came up with and you modified for your use. I hope you guys don’t mind my using your design. Thanks for getting this out there. I greatly appreciate it!

    • @pierresimon9839
      @pierresimon9839 Před 2 lety +1

      I had the same issue with Rocker being out of stock in my area as well and this was over 3 months ago. My solution was from another CZcams video where the person built a assembly table with locking wheels and leg levelers. I’m able to use the mft at its normal height, move it around my garage when I need to pull the car in and also store my track saws, compressor, clamps, screws and kreg pocket jig underneath. I made the table from 2x4’s and plywood.

    • @roncunning3117
      @roncunning3117 Před 2 lety

      @@pierresimon9839 I’m working on a plan, in Sketchup, using 2x4’s milled down to 3” for squareness. Also, looking at maybe using 80/20 aluminum extrusion. Not sure what I’ll do at this point.

    • @bentswoodworking
      @bentswoodworking  Před 2 lety

      I will be building something from scratch.

    • @wr3ckn89
      @wr3ckn89 Před 2 lety

      Rockler has discontinued these stands and is replacing them with an updated version. At least that's what they told me when I called back in August.
      Peach tree woodworking sells the exact tables and where I ordered mine. Look them up and order there!

    • @wr3ckn89
      @wr3ckn89 Před 2 lety +1

      @@roncunning3117 peach tree sells these stands, rockler has discontinued them.

  • @jakeledg
    @jakeledg Před 2 lety +1

    Nice setup! I saw the dashboard line has a work table. How do you like it vs. the 3XMFT setup?

    • @bentswoodworking
      @bentswoodworking  Před 2 lety

      I couldn’t say, I do t have any experience with his table.

  • @markrasmussen8565
    @markrasmussen8565 Před 2 lety +1

    I’m just getting started with my shop development, so forgive the stupid questions… how do you get a custom sized frame like you have, and from where do you source the MFT tops? Thanks so much. Your video was extremely helpful!

    • @bentswoodworking
      @bentswoodworking  Před 2 lety

      These are MFTs from Festool. The based was constructed using metal stands from Rockler.

  • @leslievasquez136
    @leslievasquez136 Před 2 lety +1

    Is this a set up for cross cuts only and the rip cuts you use the parallel guides? Does that mean you won’t use the table saw for final cuts. Also from your tool video you recommended the uniklamp. Do you prefer this for smaller task because it’s better than Revo jr?

    • @bentswoodworking
      @bentswoodworking  Před 2 lety +1

      I have a video on my process for breaking down panels. It was a couple weeks ago.

  • @BrianGlendenning
    @BrianGlendenning Před 2 lety +1

    How do you initially line up the dog holes so that they are straight from table to table?

  • @TheBarretoGroup
    @TheBarretoGroup Před 4 měsíci

    Hi Jason, As a longtime subscriber, I have benefited from many of your unbiased woodworking insights. I’m interested in expanding my tool arsenal by including a portable workbench.
    While viewing your episode, “Most expensive assembly table”, you featured the Dashboard PWS Track Bracket. After visiting their website, I was intrigued by their “Shortcut” workbench. It shares similar dimensions to Festool’s MFT3, a lighter carrying weight of 45lbs (20.4kg) and offers a seemingly sturdier construction.
    Like you I have own many of Festools products but would welcome your thoughts/advice regarding my pursuit of Dashboard’s PWS Shortcut workbench.

  • @Shelddav0
    @Shelddav0 Před rokem +1

    Maybe I missed it in the video, how did you attach the MFT to your work piece?

  • @JoseSanchezJr
    @JoseSanchezJr Před 2 lety +1

    Great video, I'm In the process of changing over to metric. What tape measure do you use?

    • @bentswoodworking
      @bentswoodworking  Před 2 lety

      Fastcap tapes

    • @jakeledg
      @jakeledg Před 2 lety

      @@bentswoodworking Fastcaps are great. They make a Lefty-Righty 32mm version (not saying it was my idea, but when I called them and suggested it, it magically appeared at woodcraft the next year!)

  • @RobyWanKenobi
    @RobyWanKenobi Před 2 lety +1

    Dumb question but I can only find the fence in 1000 or 1200 mm. I would like 1350 to 1400 in one piece but don't see it.

  • @Everythingisgoingtobealright

    So cool, this equipment is way overkill for my skill level, but if I had the money I would buy it all.

  • @smithmsvideo
    @smithmsvideo Před rokem +1

    What is the height to the top of the MFT’s in your setup? Did you elect to maintain the 35” height which I believe is the height of the MFT when the legs are unfolded?

  • @michaelkaye4998
    @michaelkaye4998 Před 2 lety +1

    Did you use the Festool connection to attach each table to the other?

  • @jduke008
    @jduke008 Před 2 lety +1

    I think I might try this since I already have 2 mft tables. Also, where did you get your hoodie? Thanks!!

  • @user-ve9sm3hn3s
    @user-ve9sm3hn3s Před 10 měsíci +1

    Hi Jason, quick question. I see you went away from the Rockler Stand approach for your mitre station and cabinets and also note you're rebuilding your cross-cut station base. As I'm outfitting a new garage shop, just wondering if you were unhappy with the Rockler solution outside of the inefficient dimensions for the cross-cut base you mentioned in the video? Thanks much.

    • @bentswoodworking
      @bentswoodworking  Před 10 měsíci +1

      No issues with them. I think they are a great solution. I just want a more traditional cabinet and my needs have changed

    • @user-ve9sm3hn3s
      @user-ve9sm3hn3s Před 10 měsíci

      @@bentswoodworking I am planning on creating something very similar but out of extruded aluminum which I’ll custom order to size. Could I impose on you and ask what the dimensions are of the 3 joined MFTs (length and width)? If not, no worries at all.

  • @dsdragoon
    @dsdragoon Před rokem +1

    The one thing that I hate about MFTs as an Assembly Table is too often things fall through the holes and there’s no way to see where they bounce to. One of my next projects is a MFT under shelf with a lip around shelf’s edges.

    • @johnclements6614
      @johnclements6614 Před rokem

      You can get plugs from Benchdog tools (same UK company as the fence) that fit in the dog holes flush. There is a magnetic version to lift them out £10 for 10 or aluminium £8 for 10. Both cheaper if you get more.

  • @JohnVanderbeck
    @JohnVanderbeck Před rokem

    What is the benefit to the fence versus just throwing a couple tall dogs in as a stop? Is it just the built in measurement scale or something else I might be missing?

    • @johnclements6614
      @johnclements6614 Před rokem

      The stop allows you to do repeat cuts. No tape measure.
      If you are cutting a few things you want to be the same size it removes the error of using the tape. I have two stops on my Benchdogs fence so can cut rectangles, say for shelves, without using a tape measure.

  • @ajnisen0
    @ajnisen0 Před 2 lety +1

    How would you adapt dashboards pivoting hinge setup to a user built MFT style table?

    • @bentswoodworking
      @bentswoodworking  Před 2 lety

      Depends on if you have a system to mount it too

    • @ajnisen0
      @ajnisen0 Před 2 lety

      @@bentswoodworking I guess I’m asking if there are MFT rails that you can purchase to mount dashboards track pivot mechanism.

  • @darthbleh5523
    @darthbleh5523 Před 2 lety +1

    What length rail are you using with this setup?

  • @nosferatuzodd6427
    @nosferatuzodd6427 Před 2 lety +1

    I’m what capacity do you you use the dashboard track stars?

  • @ronboe6325
    @ronboe6325 Před 2 lety +7

    The part that confuses me: Why align the track with your reference arrows, then throw that alignment away and redo it with the large triangle? I can justify double checking with the triangle (in my experience the bench dog holes are set up perfectly so any 90 degree set up will be 90 degrees). If you don't intend to use the bench dog holes for alignment, why not go straight to the triangle?
    This might cost me, I really like the Dashboard PWS, Festools version always struck me as cheaply built.

    • @MrSawdust85222
      @MrSawdust85222 Před 2 lety +2

      I caught this also. I was wondering the same thing. Hopefully he’ll read and answer.

    • @bentswoodworking
      @bentswoodworking  Před 2 lety +5

      It isn’t required. I just wanted to show the system as it’s sold. And then also share a trick that I have used over the past year. The don’t both have to be done.

    • @ronboe6325
      @ronboe6325 Před 2 lety +2

      @@bentswoodworking Update: I did cost me money. LOL

  • @seanbrotherton542
    @seanbrotherton542 Před 2 lety +3

    Does the hinge work on other tracks or just on the MFT?

    • @jeffb5858
      @jeffb5858 Před 2 lety +1

      I've looked a their website, and they do show specifics on t-slot sizing and spacing for the hinge to work. So short answer is yes.

    • @seanbrotherton542
      @seanbrotherton542 Před 2 lety

      @@jeffb5858 Thanks! Wanting to build my own table at some point for my Makita track saw. Festool is out of my budget range but I like the MFT concept.

    • @bentswoodworking
      @bentswoodworking  Před 2 lety

      I think he has different setups for different situations

  • @Cisco8484
    @Cisco8484 Před 2 lety +8

    If you use the TSO triangle to check for square, you don't really need to use those plastic arrows, right?

    • @bentswoodworking
      @bentswoodworking  Před 2 lety +1

      No not really but they come with it. It also isn’t required to use the square. It is just something I like to do and wanted to show it.

    • @toddbg123
      @toddbg123 Před 2 lety +1

      If you use the plastic arrows do you need to use the square as well to ensure "squareness"?

    • @Thumbsdwn
      @Thumbsdwn Před rokem +1

      Measure twice, cut once

    • @johnhaller5851
      @johnhaller5851 Před 11 měsíci

      It puts the cut line in the same place every time, so over time you don't end up with a wider cutline below which would allow more tear-out. The main benefit of the square is to show that the dog holes are at 90 degrees, making the fence at 90 degrees

  • @marktk5215
    @marktk5215 Před 2 lety +1

    Do you think this set up will replace the need for a sliding compound miter saw?

    • @bentswoodworking
      @bentswoodworking  Před 2 lety

      I could get by without one but that doesn’t mean I would want to.

    • @markmatuszewski3713
      @markmatuszewski3713 Před 2 lety

      I've got a more vanilla MFT setup and the only time I've had to borrow a miter saw was doing a full-house base molding install. The time it takes to tilt the track saw and the fact that it only goes one way would have made the job a nightmare.

  • @plumbum6558
    @plumbum6558 Před 2 lety +2

    I went on line tried to find the 1450mm fence could not find this length was it discontinued ? Settled on the 1200mm

  • @emirjuka
    @emirjuka Před 2 lety +1

    What size of guide rail you use in your setup

  • @paulruud5804
    @paulruud5804 Před 2 lety

    In my experience, the bottom face fibers do not need support with a track saw any more than the top face fibers need support on a tablesaw.

    • @bentswoodworking
      @bentswoodworking  Před 2 lety

      Supported material always yield’s better results than no support when cutting anything from my experience.

  • @bobbauvian7700
    @bobbauvian7700 Před 11 měsíci

    why did you have to go through the initial alignment with the arrows. I would have seen how accurate that was.

  • @-11BRAVO-
    @-11BRAVO- Před rokem +1

    You know I was in the Army for awhile and I know you are still in the Army. We must have had different paychecks. Haha just kidding nice video.

    • @bentswoodworking
      @bentswoodworking  Před rokem

      Lol. I put all my money building furniture back into my shop. If the Army paid that well I wouldn’t be retiring 🤣

    • @-11BRAVO-
      @-11BRAVO- Před rokem +1

      @@bentswoodworking haha well I was a young 11b in the barracks and single. So you know where my money went.