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I think you have the whole "Power/Control/Influence seeking" paradigm of the ENTP way off. ENTP's want to be valued for their thorough process, not their conclusions... We detest arbitrary rigidity and place a high value on autonomy... We think in the abstract and use several reference points which is how we get our slogan of devils advocate. We're not trying to cast influence and corner someone into an opinion but rather liberate people from closed mindedness.
enfp's, especially as they get older and begin to develop their goals more, will use their fi and tertiary Te to broadcast a goal/ idea/ vision and gain followers.
You better be an ENFP wil a very well developed Ti-Te functions. Because ENTPs are known to be complete psychopaths... or at least infamous with scoring high on the Dark Triad personality tests... that is certain Just like the INTJ or ENTJ is seen as psychopaths just because of the feeling functions being too negative or inferior enough not to be well developed. I'm a well developed F, so I scored INFJ one time. But that still doesn't mean I am not an ENTJ (even less an ENFJ). It just means that I am a better ENTJ than I was before...!
I truly feel like I’m entp and enfp depending on what mood I’m in. I can take tests and come out as both, And I Always seem to have a 55-60% preference towards either. I can be the devils advocate to a fault and argue for days but I also seek for higher consciousness and connection...
The ignorance within the community around the mbti is beyond me. Can you please fucking learn about the cognitive functions to have an actual clue of what the MBTI is? Most tests online are trash and wrong in terms of what that means since they are just meant to boost your ego and exercise some sort of control over you. Mbti isn't about stereotypes.. memes are fun yeah no shit but need to be taken with a light heart. Let's try and use our own brain yeah?
@@elizabethlynch9233 Jesus, girl - calm down. MBTI can be used by different people for different purposes. Some just want to have fun with it and take the online tests. BtW: There are individuals who are very balanced in their e.g. T and F functions - so to them it feels like being in between or switching. MBTI is just a model to get closer to an explanation. MBTI is not an ultimate truth.
i'm extremely annoyed by this rhetoric that enfps generally aren't smart; i tested enfp until a year ago and when i started to see people generally making fun of us online it destroyed me. i graduated valedictorian and was goofy but brilliant. now i never ever test enfp cause that carefree innocent part of me is gone. i only get entp now.
AStarIsBornThisWay I know. I am having these doubts about my type because despite identifying some characteristics of a ENFP in myself, I have ENFP friends who are sometimes too silly and childish that make turn me in a evil ENTP.
I am an ENTJ and I am mostly drawn attracted to fall for ENFPs. They are the most intelligent Feeler in my opinion because of their inferior Te-Si which is a Perceiving function.
ENFPs need well developed Ti for their Ne vision. While that their tertiary function is Te. Ti is a shadow function for the ENFP which is usually well developed due to their use of primary Ne.
Both ENTPs and ENFPs get misunderstood often, and most of the MBTI types get stereotyped because knowing all of the cognitive functions, and how they translate to the process of thinking, feeling, perceiving the world, and making decisions etc. takes a long time. I think this video is helpful for people who are trying to figure out if they are Ti first or Fi. We all want to be good at what we love, and at some point we all seek connection, it's a matter of how we do that and what has to happen first for us. We have to go deep into MBTI in order for it to truly make sense.
Your channel is so cool Erik! I'm an ENFP and it's interesting seeing the differences between the two types. I'm often tested as an ENTP but I think I've come to realise I'm an ENFP because of a greater desire to connect etc etc. Keep the videos coming, they're really fascinating! :)
Glad it helped you! Yes, there's many things to look for when comparing ENFPs and ENTPs: EF: Desire to connect, bond with others: Highest meaning is to have true access to others, to experience oneness with people, animals, or nature. ET: More intimidating and more "cocky": Highest meaning is to be respected and seen as competent at what they do TP: Primary mission is learning and acquiring and testing skills. FP: Primary mission is understanding the deeper aspects of human nature and what human nature looks "underneath" all its makeup and all its layers. Authentication.
You once typed me as ENFP but everything about ENTP suits me, including the content of this video. I always strive for achievement and recognition in my professional career and field of study (computer science). I love building my knowledge base just for the thrill of learning new things that might open opportunities. Research and development careers are very attractive options for me. I often find myself being very direct at work and my girlfriend says "why do you have to turn everything into a debate?". We have often argued over the semantics of words and definitions and she thinks I'm an obvious ENTP. I tend to strip emotion out of the context to be as objective as possible. She said "why do you always have to be logical?", which makes me laugh lol (that might make me sound like a dick lol). I think when I made a video for you I was very depressed (I just left my master's degree and was at a pretty low point in my life). I think that when a person is depressed they tend to open up more, something that feels uncomfortable for me, but when I get like that I tend to seek external validation and hate myself for it (probably one reason I seek MBTI in times like this to discover "just who the fuck am I?!"). I'm glad I am over that but everything in my life does not seem to suggest I use Fi and Te. I'm a big Ti user and use Fe a lot but mostly when I'm not quite feeling like myself. This is one reason I thought I was an INTP befdore you showed me that I was actually more on the extroverted side, which I am very grateful for. Knowing that has helped me a lot so thank you! Politics and sociology/psychology are also big hobbies of mine because I have a fascination for learning about people and how they think, such as how people develop their moral frameworks and tend to process reasoning mixed with hidden biases. I think this is how I best use Fe in a healthy way. You mention ENTPs highly valuing capability (to be really really good at something). I do this relentlessly with computer programming, software engineering, and computer science topics (like text analysis, text mining, machine learning, distributive systems, and high performance computing) and I love teaching the higher up's stuff they don't know and learning new techniques and tools quickly so that I can best help them and so they think of me as knowledgeable. I also have youtube videos to pass on my knowledge of certain interests I enjoy for the same reasons. You also mention influence. This is obviously very related to the above I just mentioned. I think you should take into account when doing your MBTI video retrospective service, the reasons for why they are doing the test/video recording and whether or not they're in a good state of mind because you saying I was an ENFP played on my mind for a while. I researched more and more to try to get to a definitive conclusion on whether my knowledge of MBTI was incorrect because me preferring Fi-Te over Ti-Fe made very little sense and I struggle to reach the same mindset in conversations with my ENFP friends and on subreddit. Seeing the functions in practice showed that I was thinking very different from them (because I was using the opposite judging functions) and it meant I was getting into arguments when I never meant to upset people. I find it frustrating when people interpret my behaviour as combative rather than simply trying to learn through a rational discussion. Sorry for the long ass comment!
I'mma entp and for me, there are 2 things I love more then anything else. First is trying anything new. Second (which is probably more interesting lol) is figuring something out. Like rn I'm in college and I'm doing a couple of projects for some of the clubs I'm in. For one of these clubs in gotta make a website. I usually procrastinate working on it but when I do I feel so fckin good. I think it's partially because I am learning new stuff and partially cause I'm see what I'm doing going into effect. Then for another club I'm working with Arduino boards which is fun in a completely different way. I gotta figure out how to wire things and all that and it's fantastic. I even taught myself how to use a bread board... And what a voltage divider is lol. While this is going on I'm also in a meditation class which is honestly pretty bomb if I'm being honest. It's fun to just do things even (it rather especially) if I don't know what I'm doing cause then I get to learn how to do it lol
I'm an ENFP, but I come off as a thinker type because I point out discrepancies in people's thoughts and opinions. just because you are analytical does not mean you are an ENTP! and you are not instantly an ENFP if you are empathetic.
I'm fascinated by cognitive functions and I discovered your channel recently and think your explanations are the most spot on I've seen. This video was of interest to me particularly because I'm an ENFP who's dated a couple of ENTPs. Both times it started with an amazing instant connection and then they ended things suddenly because they said I wanted something more serious than they could give even when I hadn't expressed that desire to them and was actually fine with the status quo. I sensed they were scared by their emotions and used those emotions to form a Ti judgement, and they were unable to explain their reasoning to me. As an ENFP with pretty developed Te, I find that I understand Ti somewhat, but if the person can't explain things in a practical sense, i.e. what the problem or concern is so it can be addressed or fixed, I'm not sure how to communicate with them. Is there something that I as an ENFP can do to either mitigate this effect of ENTPs reading things that aren't there (with Fe maybe)? Maybe Fi is the problem? Or is there a way to argue better through that (to me) impenetrable Ti logic? Do you think that the ENFP/ENTP romantic relationship is much harder than a friendship between these two types? Thanks in advance if you have any thoughts, and keep doing what you're doing!
I'm an entp female dating an enfp male. Laying that out there before I begin with my thoughts on your question because women and men work differently. YEAH I've had that feeling before, I actually still have the feeling that my enfp partner loves me with a much higher intensity than I do. It's not that entp's aren't capable of loving to such intensity, it's that we get sidetracked because love/connection is not what makes us feel "incredible" like it does for enfps. We feel incredible through defeating and conquering life's adversities, so finding a partner that can create those adversities and fight them with us is what I think is our goal in a relationship. If my enfp male partner wasn't stimulating me into growth, I would've become bored and left. And also, I felt an other worldly connection to him from the second I met him (twin flame kind of thing) I absolutely adore enfp - entp romances hahahaha they can be pretty incredible . my partner and I command rooms without even trying to ^-^
Do you find when a male ENTP is explaining something you come to a similarity more so because you speak the same language or because you really believe gender doesn't play as big a role? I realize that both are gonna relate a lot more especially since they are Thinking types and what they are going to express are technical ideas but the moment they try to say something unique I find it hard seeing as they have subjective logic and Si that there isn't a bigger distinction. Not sure if any of this made sense lol.
Maybe he was using Fe to make an objective claim on the ability to make you happy down the road. As for explaining something in a practical sense doesn't everyone say that about everyone? Then again maybe he had difficulty relating to Fi because it is a subjective claim on someone's moral character which can upset Fe users. We spend a lot of time trying to individualize our mind and when we get bottom lined it can feel a bit crushing. At least this is a lot of the way in that moment it may seem unless someone with an Fe function can learn to nurture their emotions that are particular to them ....... or something like that I'm currently undertaking this phase after meeting an ESFP :)!
Much harder to be with a type that shares more than two letters with your type. In general... The ideal is that only one or 2 functions are the same. Because still with all functions being alien to the other personality type doesn't mean opposites attract each other like that, there is too much incompatibility when it's the opposite type. You must repeat one letter at least to turn that compatibility levels the max...!
That is actually very accurate (at least in my case), if someone were to ask my MBTI type, I would say I am an ENxP, I have taken dozens and dozens of tests and I legit get 50% thinking and 50% feeling, if not then 49%thinking and 51% feeling and vice versa. As to whether I take logic or my emotions into consideration when making important decisions, it honestly depends on the situation, some situations demand for the emotions to be understood and taken into account, while in other circumstances, it is best to rely on logic, and that is how I make decisions. And probably the most convincing point is that I relate to memes of both the types....
@@elizabethlynch9233 I know about cognitive functions... The only closest to accurate test is keys2cognition.... But after all, both ENFP and ENTP are Ne doms.... Both have inferior Si... So that is similar, plus most of their dimensions are similar too
I've been very torn between these types, doubting if i'm ENTP cuz i feel like I really desire strong connection as well. I think I do dip into Fi a lot.
Very thoughtful and thought-provoking. I’ve gained so many insights into why I do things or at least why I prefer some things over others. My friends don’t really understand my fascination with the MBTi. I can’t convince them that it isn’t rules-based but simply a tool to help me see my predilections, that it is plastic not stone. To be an ENFP, to be a very introverted extrovert had produced quite an identity crisis for many years until I took the official test and studied up from ppl like yourself, Erik. Thank you.
Great video! I relate very closely to both types but based on your descriptions, it’s becoming clear to me that I’m definitely more ENTP. Thanks for the insight!
Hi Erik! I discovered your channel last month and have really enjoyed your videos. I've been an avid fan of Meyers Briggs since when I was eighteen and discovered that I was an INFJ--suddenly EVERYTHING made sense. I bought two books and consulted them through the years trying to figure people out. However, I wasn't all that good at it--there was no mention of the cognitive functions that I saw back then and the internet was just taking off, so, now I'm getting back into it, reading Jung and typology and watching youtube videos and am so excited to finally really understand how other people (myself foremost) tick. I'm glad you're branching out to talking about other types now. Thank you for your thoughts and musings on types!
Great video! Though I do have one critique. I'd be inclined to disagree on your point about ENTPs intrinsically possessing a lesser degree of organization and structure. I'd argue that the ENTP might, in fact, have a higher degree. I think when ENTPs can learn to step back into their Ti and Si a bit, and take a moment to analyze all those possibilities, an astonishing level of versatile, systematic structure can form in addition to a great deal of motivation for organization. Though, of course, it's difficult for ENTPs to step into that mode, and I would argue that we aren't wired to exist in that state at all times. Sincerely, - ENTP
For me, its difficult to stay on any one topic. Wow, thats me to a tee, ENFP. My greatest asset is my ability to connect and converse with anyone, even if I don't like them. Lol. I love being authentic. Great video....
listening to you describe my personality at work and i'm getting goosebumps haha because it is true. I've created 5 different workflows for the department I work in.
BLESS YOU. After a huge mental battle of finding where I lean towards I got a clear answer that wasn't generalized and was factual to me. I am an ENTP-T and I knew it. Thank you
Erik Thor, you just made my night with this video! This type interaction has been really intense for me as an ENFP. Thankful for somebody finally differentiating and compare/contrasting them both. WE ARE WAY DIFFERENT despite our initial similarities. (Your lips are so pretty, btw)
You are blethering. MB is a totally invented model, pulled out of someone's ass. Use big 5 - it's far better, and actually rests on huge data sampling and solid maths (factor analysis). Nobody decided "big 5" - the 5 fell out of the data, and the factor analysis. You're wasting valuable time trying to squeeze your personality into the concocted and binary Myers Briggs system.
Having an F doesn't mean you're stupid or "ditzy" it just means you make personal decision based more on your emotions. (Personality types with Fs also tend to be more optimistic).
my friend is entp (and so am i) and he acts like an enfp sometimes. that can happen if either 1. you are a unhealthy ENTP, or 2. your Fe is well developed (mine is, I still act more entp than enfp but i have my moments)
Thank you so much for this video. By comparing to ENTP side by side this helped further confirm how ENFP I am, and provided a new way of thinking about enfp-ness. This was particularly clear when describing the differences in approaches to learning (the search for transcendence vs power). Thank you, thank you, thank you!
This makes it so clear, I can say that I am an ENTP now because I focus so much more on achievement than connection, I also find flow when I am working on completing or achieving something. I was very confused before this because I care a lot about social issues and having good relationships with people, and I have been scored both an ENTP and ENFP on different tests. I realized though, that the motivation is important and I care about social issues and things mostly because I would want to achieve harmony and fix the parts that are broke or aren’t working. I think coming at it from this frame would be more of an ENTP way of thinking. I also am much better at communication than listening, and so listening has been a skill I’ve had to work hard to improve on. I really enjoyed this video, it provided a lot of great insight! 😎
I'm always told that I have a childlike expressivity whenever something sparks my interest and one of the first things people notice about me is that I learn very quickly because I'm highly analytical (this part is usually seen by people who either work with me or are used to reading people). Like, one could say my hobby is simply learning. Anything that catches my interest at the moment. I realized that the stuff I learn about myself is mostly general patterns that I transpose onto my life until I find a match, like I'm my own therapist, but I don't do very well with feelings. I'm always looking for a why and sometimes, there's just no answers. This can be incredibly upsetting to be told to just accept things the way they are... :( For me, it's like being told that the sky is blue because a higher power made it this way. It's neither satisfactory, nor convincing.
James McMurtry has a line in his song Hurricane Party that sums up pretty well how the motor runs in an ENTPs mind: ‘And the thoughts come too fast and too many to keep count / Best just let em on through.’
I tested INFJ years ago when I was really unwell. Then INFP. Then ENFP which I ignored because I swore I was an introvert. Recently I thought I was an ISFP crossed with an ESFP. And now I'm back to ENFP and should probably just deal with the fact that I am in fact living true to my quirky shy extroverted whimsically sparklesome self 😝🌈🦄 We think my husband is an ENTP.
By the mbti indicator I’m an ENFP; but I’m also feel like an ENTP - I like to connect deeply with people and with their ideas. Can you actually be both? Based on Jung’s theory it is not possible to be both - you can be either a logical feeler or an empathetic thinker. I’m in the medical field and I love sciences; I like humanities but I’m more consistent with science I think
can ENFP be very argumentative and like playing devils advocate? ha? because I'd say I'm too sensitive to criticism for ENTP but again I'm known to be harsh s lot and never spare people of my opinion even if it hurts them.
I am type 5 ENFP (I share many characteristics with type 2, but my core fears and values are type 5) and I sometimes feel so split. As I child, I got straight As, went beyond what was expected of me and was a perfectionist. I was very introverted and hated spending time with people and talking to them, but I’ve always loved to help and support them. Now I’m an ambivert that learned to truly love people but I still prefer to be alone and do some interesting research. Now I’m able to go weeks in my extroverted lane, but then I need at least a week off to recover. I need to feel appreciated for my effort and I treasure when others value my input (type 2 characteristics - plus I’m often unable to say no), but I hate to be in the spotlight. I prefer to do things alone (I’ll google it until I go grey but I hate asking for help - except when it comes to people I look up to and admire) and I hate when people are irresponsible with their feelings and with feelings of others.
So I tend to side towards enfp. Simply because of the stronger feelings triggered in communication. Beyond that both can be relatable. I dont say I change myself ever. More so, I'm a product of everyone and everything I've surrounded. So seeing things from numerous perspectives is a result of communication and most enfp dont take a heavy stance but an open one. It's how we determine what is needed. Simply listening and respecting other people isnt an attempt to recruit people to follow us. I dont walk up to people trying to promote myself. In fact I very rarely stay in any group or stay in anyplace long enough for any direct benefit of a follower or a group of followers. I'm the same person at heart in every conversation with everyone.
I'm an ENFP that hung around so many INTJ's growing up that their preference for logic and analysis made me develop Ti, which is not even in my function stack. I ended up becoming a boardgame designer. To other ENFP's, I strike them more like an argumentive ENTP :)
@@ErikThor Yep, a few! Nothing you would know however. But I genuinely feel that some days I crowd out my Fi with Ti, effectively making me an ENTP. It's made me wonder how fluid our types can be.
That Was So Accurate But I’m Certain My ENTP’s Will Tell You That We’re Not Trying To Rule The World We Just Want To Make It Rule. We Have The Ideas If You Can Stick Around Long Enough To Give You All the Information In A Cyclical Fashion Connecting All Perceived Loose Ends To Help You Understand. Problem Is We Can’t Do It All.
I identify strongly with both and test as both. I am a devout traditional Catholic but also a performer and artist. I like influencing others and having control but I also care about the transcendent...but I am a control freak
ENFP: have strong sense of moral, of good and bad, based on their experiences normally. ENTP: really believe in ideals, in a way that things and society can work better. Don't worry too much about good and bad because all is relative and depend on circumstances. This is the difference I have seen between my 3 ENFP friends and me and another ENTP friend.
I love to learn something new every day. THANK YOU. Can you be both cognitive functions, as the ENFP and ENFJ ? I was really high , over 80% to 90% n ENF, but I only had a 11% difference between P and J. I'm going by my first test before lockdown. I learned everything by asking why and how, from really smart people from MIT, Harvard , ect... All I know is I AM WHO I AM. LOL
In regards to higher learning, I am conflicted because I resonate with what you expressed in regards to ENFP but I believe it's because I crave the knowledge and understanding of it all and the best way to do so is through the Universal language of the soul which unfortunately doesn't reside in the brain but I do have a deep seeded passion for the experience you described but it all stems from the rabbit hole of "why?" So if anyone could give me some insight on this, I'd appreciate it, if not, than at least I have something to look into 😂
ENTP is my base personality, but some 'quick" tests measure my responses as ENFP. WHY is my reason for everything I do. You may be similar in that your F and T are both strong in relation to each other. He nailed it when he said NTPs are more interested in creating the change and less enamored with being in the spotlight. Like, really not enamored with that idea, at all.
I saw this vid because my type is always changing. It's either enfp or entp. I've gotten enfp more than entp. I'm confused as hell. Lol. I always thought I was an enfp but somehow, I always feel like the sterotype for enfp is too, cheerful? Not that it's bad. But most people I know would say that I actually sound a bit arrogant and too blunt which is something enfps are not known for. When you said that enfps are better listeners and entps are communicators- I just realized I might have been mistyped all these years. Because I have a tendency to interrupt not because I'm being rude. I just want to share my ideas and I might forget what it is if I don't tell you now. I'm leaning more towards entp right now, but who knows? Anyway, great video.
I'm struggling to figure out what my type is. When I first took this test many moons ago I came up 4 diff types. Now I've changed a lot through growth and experience, I don't know if I'm resigned to be a different type because I can't achieve in the type I really am. I'm extroverted, but now I avoid interactions with people, I would like to be good at something, but I've realised I'm not the best or particularly good at anything, I want to connect with people, but I realise I can't and people don't understand me. I don't even know if I've got the N v S right. I can do things the S can do. With P v J, I DO notice when things are running out in the house and replenish it.
Hello world and Erik, Is it possible... i think my personality spent some time in entp mode and have migrated to enfp. are the states fluid to some extent?
I would rather be a feeler but ive been more the thinker/overthinker of late. I need to meditate more, listen to people more. Its scary in terms of relationships but its good for friendships and work relationships. I just need to shush that little part of me that thinks i know it all.
long story short enfp would be like: i can feel you and put my self in your shoes they will think oh wait if this was me but entp:i see what you are going through and going to help you i will try to understand you and start reading understand the other but with them being them
Can I be an Entp? The tests give me Entp and Enfp. I am a very sensitive person, I can cry because of the sad song of Lana Del Rey, damn it. I adore romantic films with beautiful aesthetics and fullness of feelings. I love to run music through myself. I love sensations, fantasies, beauty. I am very sensitive to other people's criticism, I can be very choleric. I can be indecisive, but at the same time, I can write to an ex after 4 months of separation and a friend with whom we had a big fight, just because it came into my head. At the same time, I cannot be angry for a long time, but I can also be vindictive. I often forgive people, but at the same time I don't trust anyone, I can be very manipulative. I really appreciate logic and facts, although emotions overwhelm me as a result, I still choose logic, as it will be better for me. I am very skeptical, even to myself. I love to learn everything new and find the truth in unresolved cases, I have been studying mbti for 2 weeks now and I even think about it in my SLEEP, my thinking process just never stops. I'm stubborn and purposeful, that's the only thing I understand. Like "I don't need sleep, I need answers." Although I am somewhat of a humanist, and it bothers me when people do not pay attention to other people's feelings, at the same time I am very selfish, and most likely I will make a decision in my favor. I can only sacrifice myself in relationships, where I am very giving. But if I cannot emotionally interfere with a person, I do not give in to him. Friends always accuse me of selfishness, that I don’t know how to take other people’s points of view, because I need a WEIGHT argument to compare my opinion with someone else. But at the same time, I am very empathic and read the emotions of others well, I can cry because of other people's emotions if they are similar to my experience, I used to help people a lot, they were a personal psychologist, I realized that people do not appreciate this, and just stopped helping people and searched so deeply in others. At the same time, I don’t know how to emotionally support people, I don’t know how to verbally sympathize, I just fall into a stupor. I mean, I have a very strong Fi because I love to dive into emotions and feel them, they are in the territory of a huge part of my life, but that does not mean that I give in to everything I want. I can only be very impulsive when shopping, but as far as real life goes, I'll think twice. At the same time, I like to live in the present moment, but I always want to improve my life, I think in advance what can be fixed, what opportunities there are. I have a very strong Ne, I think. I am one of those who think 10 options ahead of the development of events in any situation, I am one of those who "warn" people and myself. I often argue with people, I don't just believe in sayings or facts on the internet. I love sarcasm and original answers. I am very skeptical and don't trust people or anything I see. I just can't have too much Te. I think I have Ti and strong. Though I also love attractive men, but more in others I am attracted by the brain and erudition, I am excited by someone else's self-confidence and foresight. Whatever I think about myself will never happen in ENFP or ENTP. If there was any intermediate option, it would be me! Am I too sensitive ENTP or am I still ENFP? But I think ENFP is too simple for me, and for ENTP I feel too many emotions. I think due to mbti stereotypes, real understanding of types is difficult.
I dont think that the enfp just relys on a higher form of communication with just people but connecting with peoples souls and are on a spiritual quest. Because of the way we see patterns I often figure out the patterns in other people and the excavation of getting to know someone is also a form of self-actualization. Sometimes I see some spooky stuff and jump back or the person hides from me and I move on either way. Sometimes though I stay and that's a heaven experience.
Am I good at listening ? xD I'm sorry I think myself as a listening but her eia scrolling and Res famous comments like damn. Is my listening that bad. 👁️👄👁️
ENTP's - are going to look more like your dad/mom - generally not that concerned with personal appearance except when it affects their professional life. they don't have that great a dress sense. hence the jarring colour combinations. one of the smartest, possibly THE smartest type. incredibly strong work ethic. probably could do anything they set their minds to. are self-centred by nature. can be a cerebral narcissist. ENFP's - seem to have their own unique sense of style and like experimenting with their clothing style. seem to instinctively know what looks good on them. always 'on the go'. not good at practical work. can even be a ditz at times. perpetually having fun. 'pretty'. don't always have the best work ethic. social butterflies. naturally charismatic. altruistic by nature. more likely to be a somatic than a cerebral narcissist.
I don't like the basis of the argument presented inherently in this title. It is suggesting that there are smart ENFPs which can be on level with (any) ENTP. This implies that that the most intelligent ENFPs are just touching the baseline of ENTP standard. I don't believe that intelligence is related to personality type. MBTI guides behavioral patterns, but not the base level capacities of a person.
I'm still not 100% sure if I'm ENTP or ENFP. I have eneagram 4w3 and this is causing problems. I'm also very intelligent which is really screwing this up. Right now I'm leaning to 70% ENTP 30% ENFP but I DON'T understand Introverted Feeling AT ALLLLLLL! I think I understand introverted thinking, but maybe I'm wrong about what I'm experiencing. Sigh!!!! Also, I devoted my life to helping other people, that's such and ENFP thing, but I think I rationally got to that conclusion to do that. It just seems most efficient for the world to build up other people and kill toxicity. I'm also super charming and have a child like optimistic confidence and sort of a naivitey. I'm still not 100% sure AND I BLAME YOU THOR! lol : I BLAME YOU! Make better videos ahahhahahah. You're killin me here Thor! ahhahahaha. To add to all the confusion further I've been helping other people with their problems and been using MBTI to help them discover themselves more easily. It's way easier to type other people than myself cause sometimes it's just pretty straight forward and VERY obvious what their type is from talking to them. In the process I have been trying to learn about and attain EVERY SINGLE cognitive function to the end of artificially raising my IQ further and to better help other people, soooooo I'm already at the point where any MBTI or Socionics test tells I'm ENFJ cause I worked on my charm and also prioritized helping other people in my life. There is no way I'm ENFJ. My former best friend was ENFJ and I'm hella not responsible to be a J AT ALLLLL! It's just such a mess now for me hahahahahah. I screwed myself over, I might never actually find out what type I am now hahahhahah! I've been reading Jungs work since I was a teen, and I still can't freaken tell hhahahahha. Though, I don't think Jungs descriptions of the cognitive functions are actually super super accurate or maybe he just didn't communicate (yeah I know, have you read his stuff? Hella hard to digest. It boosted my teen reading abilities tons looking up all these weird words and trying to understand the esoteric sentence structures of Jung) his complete knowledge of the cognitive functions accurately enough so the information would transfer properly. Well, weird as the combination is, I am still leaning towards uhhh ENTP 4w3. Not 100%, but it just seems to fit slightly better than ENFP 4w3. Although, I know THAT mbti and Enneagram combo is far more common. For now I don't care too much. I'm completely in love with EVERY INFJ I meet, and I'm cool with being either ENTP of ENFP cause they are SOOOOOOOO attracted to me hahahhahahahha. Hello INFJ ladies, yes I know I'm very interesting MEOW! NYA! mew mew mew MEOW! :3 Tame me please! I'm too irresponsible! hahahahah!!!!! I'm too wild a kitty for my own good, and I want to learnnnn to be a good stable husband hahahahahhah! mEOW!!!! HALP ME INFJ! hahahahahah!!!! I already have your same common enneagram 4, so we can life such an artistic exciting life together!!
When people here thinks the differences between two type is one is a feeler and one is a thinker… they have different cognitive functions 😅 geez you guys took 16personalities too much
I took MBTI three times and got ENTP . I took Erik’s test and got ENFP . I try to be nice to people . I don’t need power over anyone but myself . Maybe these tests are not so accurate as they are cracked up to be?
ENFP MAKES FRIENDS ENTP MAKES FOLLOWERS, Like if you want to be with someone who makes you their friend Comment if you want to be with someone who makes you their follower
This video is trash, you’re not backing up anything you’re saying with cognitive science or even theory. Did you even talk about cognitive functions? You’re not explaining the reasoning and deduction of either type but rather the fears and desires, which is enneagram territory. You’re generalizing ENTPs and 3s and 8s and ENFPs as 4s. This is far too constricting and not backed up whatsoever. -ENTP
I know cognitive function theory but I tend to focus on interpretation and application, go to other channels if you want maths, my goal is more coaching and empowerment and personal growth :)
Enfp here... Most enfp understood him. But few intp do. Idk. Too rigid Ti possibly? Too much science yet no application? Te wanted which is practical fact.. Ti wanted which is absolute fact. Absolute fact? Does it really exist?
We are cheerleaders. Leading a group to cheer into a new idea that we logically studied in depth prior and can debate and win because we are walking libraries lol. I just took the test got enfp. From what I'm getting from my understanding of enfp we are Spocks with a don't give a shit attitude lol
ENFPs are not as mischievous as ENTPs... As ENTJ there would be various positions where ENTPs would be found by me to be the wrong ones, I would replace with ENFPs. They are good entrepreneurs too...! Specially for a position of obvious integrity of value.
The most mischievous of all 16 types, and only an xNTJ would be able to perceive their manipulation over others, and they do not fail at doing it to us and inevitably being caught instantaneously by us. For the other types, I'm sorry, but from personal experience you all seem to trust too much the snake of the personality types. While that blaming so much the INTJ and the ENTJ for being too much of a muchness just because it's what is told about us. We do not pride when we know we are so much, only those who are not confident about themselves will boost their image to fantastic levels such as INTJs and INTPs do. The same goes for ENTPs, they can have so much fantastically boosted egos to the Trumpet levels! Narcissistic and Psychopathic traits are very common for ENTPs and INTPs... Js not so much. INTJs are too much more confident than INTPs and that's the key that separates them, and INTPs pass as the most clueless of types unwilling to be helped, just helpless individuals will inevitably grow a defense mechanism of negativity so they create and invent stories about themselves to tell other people so they feel better about themselves. The INTP is incredibly different than the ENTP in contrast to ENTJs being comparable to INTJs very well. It's astounding! But I still prefer the ENTP over the INTP... at least the job gets done while the INTP will only make the plan more complicated and will procrastinate every plan to ultimately be skipped and never accomplished so no jobs gets done in the hands of an INTP and he will be much more irrational with sentiments than the ENTP. Both are as mischievous as, because of the Perceiving function preventing long term thinking. INTP not capable of being as much because of social inability, in some way they could be even more mischivous than ENTPs due to their natural inconfidence they will tend to take even more advantage of the opportunities that arises which are much more rarer than for the ENTPs, solely because of not being that much pro-active.
smart ENFP or ENTP? so regular ENFP is not as smart ad ENTP good to know hehehe i dont care though even after watching this video i dno if I'm ENTP or ENFP howwwww
I've heard once that ENFPs love to connect with people while ENTPs love to connect with people's ideas.
that's strangely accurate :))
They would mostly fall for an ENTJ or INTJ.... because of that
They are the Holy Grail of the Feeler types.
TheBayzent Does that mean ENTP'S have difficulty connecting with people?
I'm both. Hmm
@@theancientone3092 interesting...I'm entj and believe I'm in love with entp, he is so unique and Brilliant
I think you have the whole "Power/Control/Influence seeking" paradigm of the ENTP way off. ENTP's want to be valued for their thorough process, not their conclusions... We detest arbitrary rigidity and place a high value on autonomy... We think in the abstract and use several reference points which is how we get our slogan of devils advocate. We're not trying to cast influence and corner someone into an opinion but rather liberate people from closed mindedness.
SOOOOO TRUE
this couldnt be more accurate
Yes
AMEEEEEEEN!!!!!!!!!
Joseph Harris so true, in my lyrics i call this “agnostic propaganda” (which is obviously kind of an oxymoron but describes it perfectly haha)
To be short:
ENFP - makes friends
ENTP - makes followers
enfp's, especially as they get older and begin to develop their goals more, will use their fi and tertiary Te to broadcast a goal/ idea/ vision and gain followers.
What's you type?
Who do you want to be someone's friend or follower
So ENFP are good at Facebook and ENTP, at Instagram.
@@raph009 who's good at Twitter? 🍊😆
I kinda feel like both an ENFP and ENTP 😂😂
Me too
+PowerRedBull Well, I am 51% ENTJ and 49% INTJ... maybe I am exaggerating my ambivertion there...
You better be an ENFP wil a very well developed Ti-Te functions.
Because ENTPs are known to be complete psychopaths... or at least infamous with scoring high on the Dark Triad personality tests... that is certain
Just like the INTJ or ENTJ is seen as psychopaths just because of the feeling functions being too negative or inferior enough not to be well developed.
I'm a well developed F, so I scored INFJ one time. But that still doesn't mean I am not an ENTJ (even less an ENFJ). It just means that I am a better ENTJ than I was before...!
Rainbow Kenny Same
"unnecessary"
I truly feel like I’m entp and enfp depending on what mood I’m in.
I can take tests and come out as both,
And I Always seem to have a 55-60% preference towards either.
I can be the devils advocate to a fault and argue for days but I also seek for higher consciousness and connection...
The ignorance within the community around the mbti is beyond me. Can you please fucking learn about the cognitive functions to have an actual clue of what the MBTI is? Most tests online are trash and wrong in terms of what that means since they are just meant to boost your ego and exercise some sort of control over you. Mbti isn't about stereotypes.. memes are fun yeah no shit but need to be taken with a light heart. Let's try and use our own brain yeah?
@@elizabethlynch9233 Jesus, girl - calm down. MBTI can be used by different people for different purposes. Some just want to have fun with it and take the online tests.
BtW: There are individuals who are very balanced in their e.g. T and F functions - so to them it feels like being in between or switching. MBTI is just a model to get closer to an explanation. MBTI is not an ultimate truth.
funkuchen2 exactly!!
The last paragraph makes you demonstrably ENFP.
@@funkuchen2 Up vote this thought. Cannot be more agree
i'm extremely annoyed by this rhetoric that enfps generally aren't smart; i tested enfp until a year ago and when i started to see people generally making fun of us online it destroyed me. i graduated valedictorian and was goofy but brilliant. now i never ever test enfp cause that carefree innocent part of me is gone. i only get entp now.
AStarIsBornThisWay I know. I am having these doubts about my type because despite identifying some characteristics of a ENFP in myself, I have ENFP friends who are sometimes too silly and childish that make turn me in a evil ENTP.
I am an ENFP with a very high IQ. ;)
Emotional intelligence is admirable.
I am an ENTJ and I am mostly drawn attracted to fall for ENFPs. They are the most intelligent Feeler in my opinion because of their inferior Te-Si which is a Perceiving function.
ENFPs need well developed Ti for their Ne vision. While that their tertiary function is Te. Ti is a shadow function for the ENFP which is usually well developed due to their use of primary Ne.
Both ENTPs and ENFPs get misunderstood often, and most of the MBTI types get stereotyped because knowing all of the cognitive functions, and how they translate to the process of thinking, feeling, perceiving the world, and making decisions etc. takes a long time. I think this video is helpful for people who are trying to figure out if they are Ti first or Fi. We all want to be good at what we love, and at some point we all seek connection, it's a matter of how we do that and what has to happen first for us. We have to go deep into MBTI in order for it to truly make sense.
Erik, this is a REALLY fantastically helpful video! Please make more like this comparing and contrasting two different types. Thanks so much :)
That Fi Te axis versus the Ti Fe axis was hit really well
Your channel is so cool Erik! I'm an ENFP and it's interesting seeing the differences between the two types. I'm often tested as an ENTP but I think I've come to realise I'm an ENFP because of a greater desire to connect etc etc. Keep the videos coming, they're really fascinating! :)
Glad it helped you! Yes, there's many things to look for when comparing ENFPs and ENTPs:
EF: Desire to connect, bond with others: Highest meaning is to have true access to others, to experience oneness with people, animals, or nature.
ET: More intimidating and more "cocky": Highest meaning is to be respected and seen as competent at what they do
TP: Primary mission is learning and acquiring and testing skills.
FP: Primary mission is understanding the deeper aspects of human nature and what human nature looks "underneath" all its makeup and all its layers. Authentication.
THIS FURTHER COMPLICATED THINGS THANKS
Mbti is a rabbithole you can't get out of easily, you'll get used to it :D
It sounds like an analysis based on MBTI stereotypes
You once typed me as ENFP but everything about ENTP suits me, including the content of this video. I always strive for achievement and recognition in my professional career and field of study (computer science). I love building my knowledge base just for the thrill of learning new things that might open opportunities. Research and development careers are very attractive options for me. I often find myself being very direct at work and my girlfriend says "why do you have to turn everything into a debate?". We have often argued over the semantics of words and definitions and she thinks I'm an obvious ENTP. I tend to strip emotion out of the context to be as objective as possible. She said "why do you always have to be logical?", which makes me laugh lol (that might make me sound like a dick lol).
I think when I made a video for you I was very depressed (I just left my master's degree and was at a pretty low point in my life). I think that when a person is depressed they tend to open up more, something that feels uncomfortable for me, but when I get like that I tend to seek external validation and hate myself for it (probably one reason I seek MBTI in times like this to discover "just who the fuck am I?!"). I'm glad I am over that but everything in my life does not seem to suggest I use Fi and Te. I'm a big Ti user and use Fe a lot but mostly when I'm not quite feeling like myself. This is one reason I thought I was an INTP befdore you showed me that I was actually more on the extroverted side, which I am very grateful for. Knowing that has helped me a lot so thank you! Politics and sociology/psychology are also big hobbies of mine because I have a fascination for learning about people and how they think, such as how people develop their moral frameworks and tend to process reasoning mixed with hidden biases. I think this is how I best use Fe in a healthy way.
You mention ENTPs highly valuing capability (to be really really good at something). I do this relentlessly with computer programming, software engineering, and computer science topics (like text analysis, text mining, machine learning, distributive systems, and high performance computing) and I love teaching the higher up's stuff they don't know and learning new techniques and tools quickly so that I can best help them and so they think of me as knowledgeable. I also have youtube videos to pass on my knowledge of certain interests I enjoy for the same reasons. You also mention influence. This is obviously very related to the above I just mentioned.
I think you should take into account when doing your MBTI video retrospective service, the reasons for why they are doing the test/video recording and whether or not they're in a good state of mind because you saying I was an ENFP played on my mind for a while. I researched more and more to try to get to a definitive conclusion on whether my knowledge of MBTI was incorrect because me preferring Fi-Te over Ti-Fe made very little sense and I struggle to reach the same mindset in conversations with my ENFP friends and on subreddit. Seeing the functions in practice showed that I was thinking very different from them (because I was using the opposite judging functions) and it meant I was getting into arguments when I never meant to upset people. I find it frustrating when people interpret my behaviour as combative rather than simply trying to learn through a rational discussion.
Sorry for the long ass comment!
Omg are you me?? Entp that gets real enfp when depressed lol. Thanks of the long ass comment btw.
I'mma entp and for me, there are 2 things I love more then anything else. First is trying anything new. Second (which is probably more interesting lol) is figuring something out. Like rn I'm in college and I'm doing a couple of projects for some of the clubs I'm in. For one of these clubs in gotta make a website. I usually procrastinate working on it but when I do I feel so fckin good. I think it's partially because I am learning new stuff and partially cause I'm see what I'm doing going into effect. Then for another club I'm working with Arduino boards which is fun in a completely different way. I gotta figure out how to wire things and all that and it's fantastic. I even taught myself how to use a bread board... And what a voltage divider is lol. While this is going on I'm also in a meditation class which is honestly pretty bomb if I'm being honest. It's fun to just do things even (it rather especially) if I don't know what I'm doing cause then I get to learn how to do it lol
Omg I am also an ENTP and I did an Arduino workshop and it was daaaaaammmnnnn awesoommmeeeee. But I’m still struggling in daily life tyvm.
I'm an ENFP, but I come off as a thinker type because I point out discrepancies in people's thoughts and opinions. just because you are analytical does not mean you are an ENTP! and you are not instantly an ENFP if you are empathetic.
I'm fascinated by cognitive functions and I discovered your channel recently and think your explanations are the most spot on I've seen. This video was of interest to me particularly because I'm an ENFP who's dated a couple of ENTPs. Both times it started with an amazing instant connection and then they ended things suddenly because they said I wanted something more serious than they could give even when I hadn't expressed that desire to them and was actually fine with the status quo. I sensed they were scared by their emotions and used those emotions to form a Ti judgement, and they were unable to explain their reasoning to me. As an ENFP with pretty developed Te, I find that I understand Ti somewhat, but if the person can't explain things in a practical sense, i.e. what the problem or concern is so it can be addressed or fixed, I'm not sure how to communicate with them. Is there something that I as an ENFP can do to either mitigate this effect of ENTPs reading things that aren't there (with Fe maybe)? Maybe Fi is the problem? Or is there a way to argue better through that (to me) impenetrable Ti logic? Do you think that the ENFP/ENTP romantic relationship is much harder than a friendship between these two types?
Thanks in advance if you have any thoughts, and keep doing what you're doing!
Krystyna Lopez As an Enfp I can relate to what you have described...That * moral gap * between these two types is really too big...
I'm an entp female dating an enfp male. Laying that out there before I begin with my thoughts on your question because women and men work differently.
YEAH I've had that feeling before, I actually still have the feeling that my enfp partner loves me with a much higher intensity than I do. It's not that entp's aren't capable of loving to such intensity, it's that we get sidetracked because love/connection is not what makes us feel "incredible" like it does for enfps.
We feel incredible through defeating and conquering life's adversities, so finding a partner that can create those adversities and fight them with us is what I think is our goal in a relationship.
If my enfp male partner wasn't stimulating me into growth, I would've become bored and left.
And also, I felt an other worldly connection to him from the second I met him (twin flame kind of thing)
I absolutely adore enfp - entp romances hahahaha they can be pretty incredible . my partner and I command rooms without even trying to ^-^
Do you find when a male ENTP is explaining something you come to a similarity more so because you speak the same language or because you really believe gender doesn't play as big a role? I realize that both are gonna relate a lot more especially since they are Thinking types and what they are going to express are technical ideas but the moment they try to say something unique I find it hard seeing as they have subjective logic and Si that there isn't a bigger distinction. Not sure if any of this made sense lol.
Maybe he was using Fe to make an objective claim on the ability to make you happy down the road. As for explaining something in a practical sense doesn't everyone say that about everyone? Then again maybe he had difficulty relating to Fi because it is a subjective claim on someone's moral character which can upset Fe users. We spend a lot of time trying to individualize our mind and when we get bottom lined it can feel a bit crushing. At least this is a lot of the way in that moment it may seem unless someone with an Fe function can learn to nurture their emotions that are particular to them ....... or something like that I'm currently undertaking this phase after meeting an ESFP :)!
Much harder to be with a type that shares more than two letters with your type. In general... The ideal is that only one or 2 functions are the same. Because still with all functions being alien to the other personality type doesn't mean opposites attract each other like that, there is too much incompatibility when it's the opposite type. You must repeat one letter at least to turn that compatibility levels the max...!
Entp and enfp are the same, but change depending on circumstances.
Change my mind.
There very similar but the feeling function separates them from entp
That is actually very accurate (at least in my case), if someone were to ask my MBTI type, I would say I am an ENxP, I have taken dozens and dozens of tests and I legit get 50% thinking and 50% feeling, if not then 49%thinking and 51% feeling and vice versa. As to whether I take logic or my emotions into consideration when making important decisions, it honestly depends on the situation, some situations demand for the emotions to be understood and taken into account, while in other circumstances, it is best to rely on logic, and that is how I make decisions. And probably the most convincing point is that I relate to memes of both the types....
@@mishaljaved8602the amount i can relate to this is uncanny.
@@mishaljaved8602 learn about the cognitive functions kid, most tests online are trash and inaccurate in terms of what the mbti is
@@elizabethlynch9233 I know about cognitive functions... The only closest to accurate test is keys2cognition.... But after all, both ENFP and ENTP are Ne doms.... Both have inferior Si... So that is similar, plus most of their dimensions are similar too
I am ENTP but people online think that I am ENFP
but I am really an ENTP
What you think matters the most.
oof same case here
Someone "who knows" I bet you are really an enfp.
@@edismI am an ENTP,can prove it for you if you want to
@@somebody6777 Prove it, I'm more interested in the method you'll use to achieve that though.
I've been very torn between these types, doubting if i'm ENTP cuz i feel like I really desire strong connection as well. I think I do dip into Fi a lot.
Very thoughtful and thought-provoking. I’ve gained so many insights into why I do things or at least why I prefer some things over others. My friends don’t really understand my fascination with the MBTi. I can’t convince them that it isn’t rules-based but simply a tool to help me see my predilections, that it is plastic not stone. To be an ENFP, to be a very introverted extrovert had produced quite an identity crisis for many years until I took the official test and studied up from ppl like yourself, Erik. Thank you.
Great video! I relate very closely to both types but based on your descriptions, it’s becoming clear to me that I’m definitely more ENTP. Thanks for the insight!
Brilliant video but I'd have to disagree I think a longing for a higher conscious state is typical of both ENTP AND ENFP personality Traits
ENTP here can confirm.
Hi Erik! I discovered your channel last month and have really enjoyed your videos. I've been an avid fan of Meyers Briggs since when I was eighteen and discovered that I was an INFJ--suddenly EVERYTHING made sense. I bought two books and consulted them through the years trying to figure people out. However, I wasn't all that good at it--there was no mention of the cognitive functions that I saw back then and the internet was just taking off, so, now I'm getting back into it, reading Jung and typology and watching youtube videos and am so excited to finally really understand how other people (myself foremost) tick. I'm glad you're branching out to talking about other types now. Thank you for your thoughts and musings on types!
Great video! Though I do have one critique. I'd be inclined to disagree on your point about ENTPs intrinsically possessing a lesser degree of organization and structure. I'd argue that the ENTP might, in fact, have a higher degree. I think when ENTPs can learn to step back into their Ti and Si a bit, and take a moment to analyze all those possibilities, an astonishing level of versatile, systematic structure can form in addition to a great deal of motivation for organization. Though, of course, it's difficult for ENTPs to step into that mode, and I would argue that we aren't wired to exist in that state at all times.
Sincerely,
- ENTP
Oh! I Like YOU! Can I Add You To My ENTP Think Tank?
Well, it only makes sense that a Ne dom can be organized
It's Ne, not adhd
As an ENFP with an ENTP friend I agree with most of this
This was super insightful. You’re brilliant. Thank you so much for the insight!
When you said Enfp's strongly crave connection I found myself saying loudly, "YES!!!" Enfp here!
For me, its difficult to stay on any one topic. Wow, thats me to a tee, ENFP. My greatest asset is my ability to connect and converse with anyone, even if I don't like them. Lol. I love being authentic.
Great video....
listening to you describe my personality at work and i'm getting goosebumps haha because it is true. I've created 5 different workflows for the department I work in.
You're spot on, and I really enjoy your videos. Thank you, and keep them coming!
BLESS YOU. After a huge mental battle of finding where I lean towards I got a clear answer that wasn't generalized and was factual to me. I am an ENTP-T and I knew it. Thank you
How much I love your videos. Thanks for sharing and God bless your effort. Hugs from Mexico City. Much love.
Erik Thor, you just made my night with this video! This type interaction has been really intense for me as an ENFP. Thankful for somebody finally differentiating and compare/contrasting them both. WE ARE WAY DIFFERENT despite our initial similarities. (Your lips are so pretty, btw)
Typed as ENTP but cognitive functions are Ne Fi ... Turns out I am an ENFP. Lets say a smart ENFP - sounds cooler huehuehueheue
I'm just the opposite. I was typed as an ENFP. But no i am an ENTP Empath.
Haha, world is weird
Great CZcams Channel! Thank you.
Hmm.. I have ENTP functions with Ne Ti Fe Si, but I notice I act more like an ENFP. I guess for every smart ENFP, there's a ditzy ENTP lol
Do you think it could be that your Fe is highly developed?
You are blethering. MB is a totally invented model, pulled out of someone's ass. Use big 5 - it's far better, and actually rests on huge data sampling and solid maths (factor analysis). Nobody decided "big 5" - the 5 fell out of the data, and the factor analysis. You're wasting valuable time trying to squeeze your personality into the concocted and binary Myers Briggs system.
@@fredneatcha3190 True but having the same label as celebrities and characters is cooler
Having an F doesn't mean you're stupid or "ditzy" it just means you make personal decision based more on your emotions. (Personality types with Fs also tend to be more optimistic).
my friend is entp (and so am i) and he acts like an enfp sometimes. that can happen if either 1. you are a unhealthy ENTP, or 2. your Fe is well developed (mine is, I still act more entp than enfp but i have my moments)
This is an awesome video. Your explanations are great. You are very insightful and I appreciate your work.
This title is just like saying INTJ or just a virgin ISTP?
For all other ENTPs out there I suggest watching this at 1.5x speed
Whahahah that’s what I’m doing but I think I’m ENFP
The boys Swedish, how many languages do you speak at full speed?
Thank you so much for this video. By comparing to ENTP side by side this helped further confirm how ENFP I am, and provided a new way of thinking about enfp-ness. This was particularly clear when describing the differences in approaches to learning (the search for transcendence vs power). Thank you, thank you, thank you!
This makes it so clear, I can say that I am an ENTP now because I focus so much more on achievement than connection, I also find flow when I am working on completing or achieving something. I was very confused before this because I care a lot about social issues and having good relationships with people, and I have been scored both an ENTP and ENFP on different tests. I realized though, that the motivation is important and I care about social issues and things mostly because I would want to achieve harmony and fix the parts that are broke or aren’t working. I think coming at it from this frame would be more of an ENTP way of thinking. I also am much better at communication than listening, and so listening has been a skill I’ve had to work hard to improve on. I really enjoyed this video, it provided a lot of great insight! 😎
Erik you are so sweet, thank you for making these videos. I love your eyes and the way your head is kind of dancing when you speak, it's so cute..^.^
I'm always told that I have a childlike expressivity whenever something sparks my interest and one of the first things people notice about me is that I learn very quickly because I'm highly analytical (this part is usually seen by people who either work with me or are used to reading people). Like, one could say my hobby is simply learning. Anything that catches my interest at the moment. I realized that the stuff I learn about myself is mostly general patterns that I transpose onto my life until I find a match, like I'm my own therapist, but I don't do very well with feelings. I'm always looking for a why and sometimes, there's just no answers. This can be incredibly upsetting to be told to just accept things the way they are... :( For me, it's like being told that the sky is blue because a higher power made it this way. It's neither satisfactory, nor convincing.
James McMurtry has a line in his song Hurricane Party that sums up pretty well how the motor runs in an ENTPs mind: ‘And the thoughts come too fast and too many to keep count / Best just let em on through.’
I tested INFJ years ago when I was really unwell. Then INFP. Then ENFP which I ignored because I swore I was an introvert. Recently I thought I was an ISFP crossed with an ESFP. And now I'm back to ENFP and should probably just deal with the fact that I am in fact living true to my quirky shy extroverted whimsically sparklesome self 😝🌈🦄
We think my husband is an ENTP.
Same case here i acted like infjs! ... But turned out i'm an enfp/entp
Brilliant description.
~ENFP 9w8 45 y/o
This was a very intelligent perspective of my ENTP male friend. You've brought good sense to it all. Thank you!
By the mbti indicator I’m an ENFP; but I’m also feel like an ENTP - I like to connect deeply with people and with their ideas. Can you actually be both? Based on Jung’s theory it is not possible to be both - you can be either a logical feeler or an empathetic thinker. I’m in the medical field and I love sciences; I like humanities but I’m more consistent with science I think
Look up Jung's Extroverted Intuitive Dominant description
Great vid! Thks for sharing.
can ENFP be very argumentative and like playing devils advocate? ha?
because I'd say I'm too sensitive to criticism for ENTP but again I'm known to be harsh s lot and never spare people of my opinion even if it hurts them.
thanx thor; watching tons of yours, and appreciating it!! (enfp)
Subscribed. I love your videos on ENTP types like myself. Very informative, and makes my ENTP ass feel attacked.
The point about flow state made so much sense! I understand function stacks better now
Great video
Erik! Det skulle vara sjukt intressant att diskutera med dig någon gång 😊
Visst! Kom in på vår chattserver och säg hej! :)
I am type 5 ENFP (I share many characteristics with type 2, but my core fears and values are type 5) and I sometimes feel so split. As I child, I got straight As, went beyond what was expected of me and was a perfectionist. I was very introverted and hated spending time with people and talking to them, but I’ve always loved to help and support them. Now I’m an ambivert that learned to truly love people but I still prefer to be alone and do some interesting research. Now I’m able to go weeks in my extroverted lane, but then I need at least a week off to recover. I need to feel appreciated for my effort and I treasure when others value my input (type 2 characteristics - plus I’m often unable to say no), but I hate to be in the spotlight. I prefer to do things alone (I’ll google it until I go grey but I hate asking for help - except when it comes to people I look up to and admire) and I hate when people are irresponsible with their feelings and with feelings of others.
So I tend to side towards enfp. Simply because of the stronger feelings triggered in communication. Beyond that both can be relatable. I dont say I change myself ever. More so, I'm a product of everyone and everything I've surrounded. So seeing things from numerous perspectives is a result of communication and most enfp dont take a heavy stance but an open one. It's how we determine what is needed. Simply listening and respecting other people isnt an attempt to recruit people to follow us. I dont walk up to people trying to promote myself. In fact I very rarely stay in any group or stay in anyplace long enough for any direct benefit of a follower or a group of followers. I'm the same person at heart in every conversation with everyone.
I'm an ENFP that hung around so many INTJ's growing up that their preference for logic and analysis made me develop Ti, which is not even in my function stack. I ended up becoming a boardgame designer. To other ENFP's, I strike them more like an argumentive ENTP :)
Ha, that sounds really fun! Made any fun games?
@@ErikThor Yep, a few! Nothing you would know however. But I genuinely feel that some days I crowd out my Fi with Ti, effectively making me an ENTP. It's made me wonder how fluid our types can be.
That Was So Accurate But I’m Certain My ENTP’s Will Tell You That We’re Not Trying To Rule The World We Just Want To Make It Rule. We Have The Ideas If You Can Stick Around Long Enough To Give You All the Information In A Cyclical Fashion Connecting All Perceived Loose Ends To Help You Understand. Problem Is We Can’t Do It All.
I identify strongly with both and test as both. I am a devout traditional Catholic but also a performer and artist. I like influencing others and having control but I also care about the transcendent...but I am a control freak
Very well put the differences!!!
ENFP: have strong sense of moral, of good and bad, based on their experiences normally.
ENTP: really believe in ideals, in a way that things and society can work better. Don't worry too much about good and bad because all is relative and depend on circumstances.
This is the difference I have seen between my 3 ENFP friends and me and another ENTP friend.
I love to learn something new every day. THANK YOU. Can you be both cognitive functions, as the ENFP and ENFJ ? I was really high , over 80% to 90% n ENF, but I only had a 11% difference between P and J. I'm going by my first test before lockdown.
I learned everything by asking why and how, from really smart people from MIT, Harvard , ect... All I know is I AM WHO I AM. LOL
Yeah, I also had a similar result!
In regards to higher learning, I am conflicted because I resonate with what you expressed in regards to ENFP but I believe it's because I crave the knowledge and understanding of it all and the best way to do so is through the Universal language of the soul which unfortunately doesn't reside in the brain but I do have a deep seeded passion for the experience you described but it all stems from the rabbit hole of "why?" So if anyone could give me some insight on this, I'd appreciate it, if not, than at least I have something to look into 😂
ENTP is my base personality, but some 'quick" tests measure my responses as ENFP. WHY is my reason for everything I do. You may be similar in that your F and T are both strong in relation to each other. He nailed it when he said NTPs are more interested in creating the change and less enamored with being in the spotlight. Like, really not enamored with that idea, at all.
I saw this vid because my type is always changing. It's either enfp or entp. I've gotten enfp more than entp. I'm confused as hell. Lol. I always thought I was an enfp but somehow, I always feel like the sterotype for enfp is too, cheerful? Not that it's bad. But most people I know would say that I actually sound a bit arrogant and too blunt which is something enfps are not known for. When you said that enfps are better listeners and entps are communicators- I just realized I might have been mistyped all these years. Because I have a tendency to interrupt not because I'm being rude. I just want to share my ideas and I might forget what it is if I don't tell you now. I'm leaning more towards entp right now, but who knows? Anyway, great video.
I made a more recent one you might enjoy too :)
@Erik Thor Cool! Will check it out.
I'm struggling to figure out what my type is. When I first took this test many moons ago I came up 4 diff types. Now I've changed a lot through growth and experience, I don't know if I'm resigned to be a different type because I can't achieve in the type I really am. I'm extroverted, but now I avoid interactions with people, I would like to be good at something, but I've realised I'm not the best or particularly good at anything, I want to connect with people, but I realise I can't and people don't understand me. I don't even know if I've got the N v S right. I can do things the S can do. With P v J, I DO notice when things are running out in the house and replenish it.
Omg, I actually really really love this. For myself it's 100% true
Hello world and Erik, Is it possible... i think my personality spent some time in entp mode and have migrated to enfp. are the states fluid to some extent?
can answer my own question now; wishing you well
I would rather be a feeler but ive been more the thinker/overthinker of late. I need to meditate more, listen to people more. Its scary in terms of relationships but its good for friendships and work relationships. I just need to shush that little part of me that thinks i know it all.
long story short enfp would be like: i can feel you and put my self in your shoes they will think oh wait if this was me but
entp:i see what you are going through and going to help you i will try to understand you and start reading understand the other but with them being them
Can I be an Entp? The tests give me Entp and Enfp. I am a very sensitive person, I can cry because of the sad song of Lana Del Rey, damn it. I adore romantic films with beautiful aesthetics and fullness of feelings. I love to run music through myself. I love sensations, fantasies, beauty. I am very sensitive to other people's criticism, I can be very choleric. I can be indecisive, but at the same time, I can write to an ex after 4 months of separation and a friend with whom we had a big fight, just because it came into my head. At the same time, I cannot be angry for a long time, but I can also be vindictive. I often forgive people, but at the same time I don't trust anyone, I can be very manipulative. I really appreciate logic and facts, although emotions overwhelm me as a result, I still choose logic, as it will be better for me. I am very skeptical, even to myself. I love to learn everything new and find the truth in unresolved cases, I have been studying mbti for 2 weeks now and I even think about it in my SLEEP, my thinking process just never stops. I'm stubborn and purposeful, that's the only thing I understand. Like "I don't need sleep, I need answers." Although I am somewhat of a humanist, and it bothers me when people do not pay attention to other people's feelings, at the same time I am very selfish, and most likely I will make a decision in my favor. I can only sacrifice myself in relationships, where I am very giving. But if I cannot emotionally interfere with a person, I do not give in to him. Friends always accuse me of selfishness, that I don’t know how to take other people’s points of view, because I need a WEIGHT argument to compare my opinion with someone else. But at the same time, I am very empathic and read the emotions of others well, I can cry because of other people's emotions if they are similar to my experience, I used to help people a lot, they were a personal psychologist, I realized that people do not appreciate this, and just stopped helping people and searched so deeply in others. At the same time, I don’t know how to emotionally support people, I don’t know how to verbally sympathize, I just fall into a stupor. I mean, I have a very strong Fi because I love to dive into emotions and feel them, they are in the territory of a huge part of my life, but that does not mean that I give in to everything I want. I can only be very impulsive when shopping, but as far as real life goes, I'll think twice. At the same time, I like to live in the present moment, but I always want to improve my life, I think in advance what can be fixed, what opportunities there are. I have a very strong Ne, I think. I am one of those who think 10 options ahead of the development of events in any situation, I am one of those who "warn" people and myself. I often argue with people, I don't just believe in sayings or facts on the internet. I love sarcasm and original answers. I am very skeptical and don't trust people or anything I see. I just can't have too much Te. I think I have Ti and strong. Though I also love attractive men, but more in others I am attracted by the brain and erudition, I am excited by someone else's self-confidence and foresight. Whatever I think about myself will never happen in ENFP or ENTP. If there was any intermediate option, it would be me! Am I too sensitive ENTP or am I still ENFP? But I think ENFP is too simple for me, and for ENTP I feel too many emotions. I think due to mbti stereotypes, real understanding of types is difficult.
I dont think that the enfp just relys on a higher form of communication with just people but connecting with peoples souls and are on a spiritual quest. Because of the way we see patterns I often figure out the patterns in other people and the excavation of getting to know someone is also a form of self-actualization. Sometimes I see some spooky stuff and jump back or the person hides from me and I move on either way. Sometimes though I stay and that's a heaven experience.
So useful!
As time goes by.. I’m not sure what I am already. I get ENTP, ENFP, INTP. Weird.
Welcome to the club. 😂 💕
@@mintytoffee2847 Eyyy (☞ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)☞
I've taken the test twice and I was an ENTP and then I took it again, I was an enfp.
I'm gonna say something that I might regret. Is it just me, or is Steven Crowder maybe an ENFP?
Am I good at listening ? xD I'm sorry I think myself as a listening but her eia scrolling and Res famous comments like damn. Is my listening that bad. 👁️👄👁️
i liked this one for sure
Is it possible to be both ENFP and ENTP?
ENTP's - are going to look more like your dad/mom - generally not that concerned with personal appearance except when it affects their professional life. they don't have that great a dress sense. hence the jarring colour combinations. one of the smartest, possibly THE smartest type. incredibly strong work ethic. probably could do anything they set their minds to. are self-centred by nature. can be a cerebral narcissist. ENFP's - seem to have their own unique sense of style and like experimenting with their clothing style. seem to instinctively know what looks good on them. always 'on the go'. not good at practical work. can even be a ditz at times. perpetually having fun. 'pretty'. don't always have the best work ethic. social butterflies. naturally charismatic. altruistic by nature. more likely to be a somatic than a cerebral narcissist.
Shez Xi ENFPs are not ditzy.
I'm an ENTJ here to hear your bullshit on the "smartest type"
+Elizabeth Henry Agree!!!
I don't like the basis of the argument presented inherently in this title. It is suggesting that there are smart ENFPs which can be on level with (any) ENTP. This implies that that the most intelligent ENFPs are just touching the baseline of ENTP standard. I don't believe that intelligence is related to personality type. MBTI guides behavioral patterns, but not the base level capacities of a person.
The great thing about information is you get to choose how to interpret it.
I'm still not 100% sure if I'm ENTP or ENFP. I have eneagram 4w3 and this is causing problems. I'm also very intelligent which is really screwing this up. Right now I'm leaning to 70% ENTP 30% ENFP but I DON'T understand Introverted Feeling AT ALLLLLLL! I think I understand introverted thinking, but maybe I'm wrong about what I'm experiencing. Sigh!!!! Also, I devoted my life to helping other people, that's such and ENFP thing, but I think I rationally got to that conclusion to do that. It just seems most efficient for the world to build up other people and kill toxicity. I'm also super charming and have a child like optimistic confidence and sort of a naivitey. I'm still not 100% sure AND I BLAME YOU THOR! lol : I BLAME YOU! Make better videos ahahhahahah. You're killin me here Thor! ahhahahaha. To add to all the confusion further I've been helping other people with their problems and been using MBTI to help them discover themselves more easily. It's way easier to type other people than myself cause sometimes it's just pretty straight forward and VERY obvious what their type is from talking to them. In the process I have been trying to learn about and attain EVERY SINGLE cognitive function to the end of artificially raising my IQ further and to better help other people, soooooo I'm already at the point where any MBTI or Socionics test tells I'm ENFJ cause I worked on my charm and also prioritized helping other people in my life. There is no way I'm ENFJ. My former best friend was ENFJ and I'm hella not responsible to be a J AT ALLLLL! It's just such a mess now for me hahahahahah. I screwed myself over, I might never actually find out what type I am now hahahhahah! I've been reading Jungs work since I was a teen, and I still can't freaken tell hhahahahha. Though, I don't think Jungs descriptions of the cognitive functions are actually super super accurate or maybe he just didn't communicate (yeah I know, have you read his stuff? Hella hard to digest. It boosted my teen reading abilities tons looking up all these weird words and trying to understand the esoteric sentence structures of Jung) his complete knowledge of the cognitive functions accurately enough so the information would transfer properly. Well, weird as the combination is, I am still leaning towards uhhh ENTP 4w3. Not 100%, but it just seems to fit slightly better than ENFP 4w3. Although, I know THAT mbti and Enneagram combo is far more common. For now I don't care too much. I'm completely in love with EVERY INFJ I meet, and I'm cool with being either ENTP of ENFP cause they are SOOOOOOOO attracted to me hahahhahahahha. Hello INFJ ladies, yes I know I'm very interesting MEOW! NYA! mew mew mew MEOW! :3 Tame me please! I'm too irresponsible! hahahahah!!!!! I'm too wild a kitty for my own good, and I want to learnnnn to be a good stable husband hahahahahhah! mEOW!!!! HALP ME INFJ! hahahahahah!!!! I already have your same common enneagram 4, so we can life such an artistic exciting life together!!
You should start blogging about your life 😇
My girlfriend is right down the middle and I can’t seem to narrow it down to one.
When people here thinks the differences between two type is one is a feeler and one is a thinker… they have different cognitive functions 😅 geez you guys took 16personalities too much
I took MBTI three times and got ENTP . I took Erik’s test and got ENFP . I try to be nice to people . I don’t need power over anyone but myself . Maybe these tests are not so accurate as they are cracked up to be?
I've oticed that ENFPs are much more talkative and less listening than the ENTPs i know :o
You should have titled your video "Difference between Ne dominant VS Fe"
Now I know my best friend is ENTP, not ENFP. Thanks, Erik.
my friend says he is a enfp but i think he is a entp
ENFP MAKES FRIENDS
ENTP MAKES FOLLOWERS,
Like if you want to be with someone who makes you their friend
Comment if you want to be with someone who makes you their follower
Entp says you’re boring me .
We can make a great environment when we come into a group, until we start batting ideas around between each other hahaha. I'm ENTP by the by
Why you blink so much in the beginning?😂
He might be wearing contacts. I do that too when my contacts are starting to dry out
The description of ENTP here sounds more like an ENTJ, tbh...
My fav INFJ
where my ENTP gang
This video is trash, you’re not backing up anything you’re saying with cognitive science or even theory. Did you even talk about cognitive functions? You’re not explaining the reasoning and deduction of either type but rather the fears and desires, which is enneagram territory. You’re generalizing ENTPs and 3s and 8s and ENFPs as 4s. This is far too constricting and not backed up whatsoever. -ENTP
I know cognitive function theory but I tend to focus on interpretation and application, go to other channels if you want maths, my goal is more coaching and empowerment and personal growth :)
Enfp here...
Most enfp understood him. But few intp do.
Idk. Too rigid Ti possibly? Too much science yet no application?
Te wanted which is practical fact..
Ti wanted which is absolute fact.
Absolute fact? Does it really exist?
We are cheerleaders. Leading a group to cheer into a new idea that we logically studied in depth prior and can debate and win because we are walking libraries lol. I just took the test got enfp. From what I'm getting from my understanding of enfp we are Spocks with a don't give a shit attitude lol
ENFPs are not as mischievous as ENTPs... As ENTJ there would be various positions where ENTPs would be found by me to be the wrong ones, I would replace with ENFPs. They are good entrepreneurs too...! Specially for a position of obvious integrity of value.
The most mischievous of all 16 types, and only an xNTJ would be able to perceive their manipulation over others, and they do not fail at doing it to us and inevitably being caught instantaneously by us. For the other types, I'm sorry, but from personal experience you all seem to trust too much the snake of the personality types. While that blaming so much the INTJ and the ENTJ for being too much of a muchness just because it's what is told about us. We do not pride when we know we are so much, only those who are not confident about themselves will boost their image to fantastic levels such as INTJs and INTPs do. The same goes for ENTPs, they can have so much fantastically boosted egos to the Trumpet levels! Narcissistic and Psychopathic traits are very common for ENTPs and INTPs... Js not so much. INTJs are too much more confident than INTPs and that's the key that separates them, and INTPs pass as the most clueless of types unwilling to be helped, just helpless individuals will inevitably grow a defense mechanism of negativity so they create and invent stories about themselves to tell other people so they feel better about themselves. The INTP is incredibly different than the ENTP in contrast to ENTJs being comparable to INTJs very well. It's astounding! But I still prefer the ENTP over the INTP... at least the job gets done while the INTP will only make the plan more complicated and will procrastinate every plan to ultimately be skipped and never accomplished so no jobs gets done in the hands of an INTP and he will be much more irrational with sentiments than the ENTP. Both are as mischievous as, because of the Perceiving function preventing long term thinking. INTP not capable of being as much because of social inability, in some way they could be even more mischivous than ENTPs due to their natural inconfidence they will tend to take even more advantage of the opportunities that arises which are much more rarer than for the ENTPs, solely because of not being that much pro-active.
Yup, ENTP.
smart ENFP or ENTP?
so regular ENFP is not as smart ad ENTP
good to know hehehe
i dont care though
even after watching this video i dno if I'm ENTP or ENFP
howwwww
Te has to be developed..