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  • čas přidán 14. 08. 2024

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  • @agent01soul
    @agent01soul Před měsícem +1978

    Years ago every village had an idiot, now because of the internet they can get together and have conferences

    • @heliosgnosis2744
      @heliosgnosis2744 Před měsícem +95

      There is tens of millions of them I am starting to think George Carlins stat of think of how dumb the average person is, now think half of them are even more dumb that that. It is funny and scary like Asmon says.

    • @-oiiio-3993
      @-oiiio-3993 Před měsícem +44

      @@heliosgnosis2744 It's got electrolytes.

    • @deejitv
      @deejitv Před měsícem +3

      rofl omgosh this is so true.

    • @SchifferThe2nd
      @SchifferThe2nd Před měsícem +16

      The internet is a double edged sword.

    • @aroemaliuged4776
      @aroemaliuged4776 Před měsícem +1

      And half of you’re great country is as this
      Why … oh why

  • @SeFreaCweth
    @SeFreaCweth Před měsícem +5677

    The Earth is a cube. Every minecraft player knows this.

    • @Zefar77
      @Zefar77 Před měsícem +138

      Like come one, we have a perfectly functional simulation of it. How can it be disproved?

    • @kuppa391
      @kuppa391 Před měsícem +131

      But in minecraft the earth is flat? Cubeheads coping and seething rn.

    • @promethiac2641
      @promethiac2641 Před měsícem +29

      "hHmm" - Minecraft villager saying "For real tho"

    • @Gn8Lif3
      @Gn8Lif3 Před měsícem +12

      Turn up the Resolution jeez😊

    • @PlaceOfDestination
      @PlaceOfDestination Před měsícem +14

      Minecraft earth isnt cube. Its endless.

  • @user-pu4vf7ie2e
    @user-pu4vf7ie2e Před 24 dny +291

    If the Earth was flat, these people would believe that the Earth is round.

    • @CorrosiveCitrus
      @CorrosiveCitrus Před 24 dny +42

      You're not wrong
      And that's why what asmon said is spot on, it's not about the shape of the earth, it's about going against established authority
      If the man says jumping in fire is bad, then jumping in fire is good!

    • @Coxy_Wrecked
      @Coxy_Wrecked Před 22 dny +17

      Exactly, these kind of people just want to believe the truth is actually wrong. They want some sort of affirmation that they are more intelligent than the majoritiy when in fact they just make themselves look stupid.

    • @rw0dyxer012
      @rw0dyxer012 Před 21 dnem +3

      @@Coxy_Wrecked Its the same thing with people who think they know how firearms work when they argue that the bullet WILL go to where they are aiming at. If you point a firearm straight at a target's forehead with a scope or a sight, people believe that is where the bullet will go when really it will actually hit their nose, eye or cheeks.

    • @Infamous41
      @Infamous41 Před 21 dnem +1

      just like when ur parents like something u like u don't like it nomo

    • @gamer61701
      @gamer61701 Před 21 dnem +4

      And if NASA published pictures of the Earth from space showing that it was the shape of a pyramid, you would instantly believe that it was 100% pyramid shaped.

  • @bruhboi699
    @bruhboi699 Před 28 dny +102

    My favorite documentary was the flat earth documentary where they used science to “prove” and then disprove their own theory

    • @xiiguardian
      @xiiguardian Před 24 dny +10

      Under the dome I think. Saw it too. 😂

    • @Godzilla_Star_Eater
      @Godzilla_Star_Eater Před 19 dny

      r/thathappened

    • @sindicta5757
      @sindicta5757 Před 18 dny +10

      @@Godzilla_Star_Eater it literally exists and you can watch it right now? how you gonna act like bro is lying when the video is literally up on the internet...

    • @vamvam7690
      @vamvam7690 Před 16 dny +4

      @@Godzilla_Star_Eaterthat was a dumb comment…one Google search could’ve saved you from that lol

    • @rickybobby5153
      @rickybobby5153 Před 16 dny

      A 15 degree drift? Thanks bob 😂

  • @marcuswalton7268
    @marcuswalton7268 Před měsícem +1598

    there's a somewhat famous quote from a national park ranger I believe that is something like "The reason its so hard to create a bear proof trash can is that there is considerable overlap in intellect between the smartest bears and the dumbest people"

    • @rhatikeo
      @rhatikeo Před měsícem +33

      i remember that saying

    • @AndSaveAsManyAsYouCan
      @AndSaveAsManyAsYouCan Před měsícem +95

      To be fair, Yogi was a pretty smart bear.

    • @Cloud-bs2kn
      @Cloud-bs2kn Před měsícem +62

      ​@@AndSaveAsManyAsYouCan definitely above average

    • @CptnJaymz
      @CptnJaymz Před měsícem +34

      I heard that quote in Ron Swanson's voice...
      and I'm ok with that.

    • @aroemaliuged4776
      @aroemaliuged4776 Před měsícem +8

      This is deplorable and depressing!!
      The female bears actually look after their Cubs without manipulating social norms

  • @LOOUUUD
    @LOOUUUD Před měsícem +1349

    "Think of how dumb the average person is and then realize half of them are dumber than that," - George Carlin

    • @innocentsmith6091
      @innocentsmith6091 Před měsícem +44

      But most people are within a standard deviation of the mean. So most less-than-average people are only marginally less intelligent than most more-than-average people.

    • @alexnorth2452
      @alexnorth2452 Před měsícem +16

      It's disappointing how people are incapable of thinking of original comments these days

    • @Mastikator
      @Mastikator Před měsícem +62

      @@alexnorth2452 Nothing wrong with learning from our wisest elders.

    • @metagen77
      @metagen77 Před měsícem +39

      @@innocentsmith6091 Everyone is missing the point, 10% fall below 80. Do you have any idea of how many people this is and how slow they are

    • @the-answer-is-42
      @the-answer-is-42 Před měsícem +14

      Technically this is wrong, it should be the "median" person, not the "average" person.

  • @FixationwithCarnage
    @FixationwithCarnage Před měsícem +92

    "you cant reason someone out of a position they didnt reason themselves in to"
    this is just...chefs kiss*

  • @Evelyn_Okay
    @Evelyn_Okay Před měsícem +22

    People don't want the truth. They want to be right

  • @Musashi42069
    @Musashi42069 Před měsícem +942

    I lost my shit when the dinosaurs got yeeted to the outerspace.

    • @CSIGrissom
      @CSIGrissom Před měsícem +50

      But that’s how it happened 😂🤣😭

    • @rustymustard7798
      @rustymustard7798 Před měsícem +19

      Panspermia lol.

    • @oatsey1345
      @oatsey1345 Před měsícem +14

      dinosaurs never existed.

    • @Exigty
      @Exigty Před měsícem +68

      @@oatsey1345 Go to a museum and come back to me

    • @SeFreaCweth
      @SeFreaCweth Před měsícem +4

      That's what happened, IRL

  • @Jenkkimie
    @Jenkkimie Před měsícem +433

    "The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence." - Charles Bukowski.

    • @nillehessy
      @nillehessy Před měsícem

      no de problem is elite cabal & their agendas and their agendas behind that and all their tentacles of their minions with their tentacles full of
      goin low low low a low deez i see

    • @Subsistence69
      @Subsistence69 Před měsícem +7

      This is a good one

    • @catbert7
      @catbert7 Před měsícem +3

      Indeed.

    • @pottistarter4971
      @pottistarter4971 Před měsícem +7

      I used to be like this and believe someone even tho i knew they are wrong because of the confidence they exuded while saying it

    • @JuffBeezos
      @JuffBeezos Před měsícem +5

      Which would imply that people open to the concept of a flat earth are more intelligent than those who are confident on either side of the topic.
      Not that I believe in a flat earth at all, but the quote likely works outside your favor in this scenario.

  • @Incogneto1981
    @Incogneto1981 Před 18 dny +59

    "It doesn't sound crazy if you're stupid" Best line I've heard to describe Flat Earthers.

    • @artistryspectrum512
      @artistryspectrum512 Před 11 dny +1

      Couldn't careless about flat earth.. that's like being mad at pineapple on pizza. Now, on the issue of gender and pdf files- they take the cake

    • @Incogneto1981
      @Incogneto1981 Před 11 dny

      @@artistryspectrum512 😅

  • @networkengineer4405
    @networkengineer4405 Před 23 dny +20

    Flat earthers are proof of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

    • @darthbrooks4933
      @darthbrooks4933 Před 14 dny +1

      💯

    • @leocrow1919
      @leocrow1919 Před 12 dny

      Do you have 1 real image of Earth being a ball from outer space that is not a cartoon?

    • @darthbrooks4933
      @darthbrooks4933 Před 12 dny +5

      @@leocrow1919 lol, just say you don’t understand math or physics.
      Can you show me a model in which our day/night cycle works on a flat earth? No, you sure can’t😂

    • @darthbrooks4933
      @darthbrooks4933 Před 12 dny +4

      @@leocrow1919 no one claims it’s a “ball”. Sphere doesn’t mean ball, lol. The fact you can’t differentiate that difference says a lot and the fact you use that word(making your argument a strawman) like it’s some sort of gotcha is WILDLY telling.

  • @iron_rush_theater1246
    @iron_rush_theater1246 Před měsícem +484

    Maybe it was George Carlin (or some other comedian) who said "tell someone there are a billion stars in the sky and they will believe you, but put a "wet paint" sign on a wall and they have to touch it to be sure."

    • @firecloud42
      @firecloud42 Před měsícem +72

      But we want people to test theories and ideas, it’s the best way to learn
      The problem is flat Earthers “test” things and either don’t accept the out comes if proven wrong or don’t do further tests to make sure what the outcome wasn’t a fluke or an unknown variable effected it

    • @V4Now
      @V4Now Před měsícem +3

      Patrick Star appears...

    • @TyrianHaze
      @TyrianHaze Před měsícem +20

      That's actually the basis for flat earth theory. They are unable to see whether the earth is flat or a sphere from their perspective on the planet, so it could be either until they themselves see it with their own eyes. It's not necessarily that they are mentally handicapped for believing the earth is flat, it's more that they are skeptical of the claim that it is a sphere and went with the default that it is flat based on their perspective on the surface of the planet. Personally I learn towards it being a sphere, but it could be either since I haven't jumped on a rocket and looked down at the Earth from space to verify myself.

    • @merccc1
      @merccc1 Před měsícem +29

      @@TyrianHaze There are things you can do to literally test it yourself. They deny anything and everything no matter what instead and will believe literally anything that even remotely supports their idea blindly. That is the issue. Difficult to progress to solving the next issues if you constantly need to revisit everything to make sure yourself it is right first. That is why there are studies, examples, demonstrations, and so on to help catch people up to speed.

    • @mbburry4759
      @mbburry4759 Před měsícem

      ​@TyrianHaze flat earthers aren't just people who are ignorant or uneducated, and are like "looks kind of flat to me, but guess it could be round, whatever idk"
      Flat earthers are people who have thoroughly looked into their idea and are absolutely confident in it, despite an overwhelming amount of evidence to the contrary.
      Also All of thier theories involve some form(s) of a global (discus, lol) conspiracy that tricks people into thinking it's a sphere for nefarious reasons... it also typically involves some god/Satan stuff, and tend to evangalize thier beliefs in flat earth...

  • @voidmain2453
    @voidmain2453 Před měsícem +549

    Saying “trust science” or “believe in science” is a terrible way to put it, science challenges science all the time, science disproves science all the time. The problem is when people challenge science with nothing but voices in their heads and their ignorance in the topic. You don’t “believe” or “trust” science, you understand that the evidence is compelling enough to be accepted as true

    • @conorloney2288
      @conorloney2288 Před měsícem +21

      Damn gonna have to remember that. Thats a great way of thinking about science.

    • @Blakkrazor69
      @Blakkrazor69 Před měsícem +7

      I love Physics. I like the total surface area of the Earth moving, spinning, at speeds of around 1000 mph...faster than the speed of sound...in an Oxygen Rich Atmosphere....the friction would be distinct for the life of that planet as would the atmosphere's movements, they would be locked into the same rotation as the moving surface area creating all that drag, all that friction. But hey, I'm not arguing for a shape of any prison, I'm arguing for people to use some Physics and create their own models. Hell...they could ask AI to create the model for them. But the herd never thinks of the Physics of their Reality.

    • @vukkulvar9769
      @vukkulvar9769 Před měsícem +15

      The solution is to outcraze them. "You think the Earth is flat? The Earth is a pyramid; everybody knows that!"

    • @domerame5913
      @domerame5913 Před měsícem +51

      Trusting science means trusting the scientific method, not trusting the postulations of scientists. Science challenging science is a reason to trust it.

    • @onthelvl8291
      @onthelvl8291 Před měsícem

      But you know and I know scientists are in their own echo chamber. If anyone tries to challenge the status quo with evidence,that's pretty damming, it's just handwave dismissed.
      There is zero measurable curvature down here where it matters. Can't be found. 3/4 of earth is underwater. Water at rest wether it's in a cup, a puddle, in a toilet, it is always level. Always. Water does not conform. Water will not lie. Every test ever done to gauge the motion of earth , proved the opposite. We're not moving. It's not hard to see once ya see it. It is difficult to deal with. I think it sucks. Life was a lot easier as a NASA fanboy atheist cruising the galaxy on a spinning water ball. But, it's not the case

  • @Aprichit_anniyan
    @Aprichit_anniyan Před 29 dny +16

    3 quotes that will help you in your life.
    1.Arguing with an idiot feels like running in circles. You end up exactly where you started but more exhausted.
    2.The problem with arguing with idiots is that they often confuse arrogance with intelligence.
    3.The moment you engage in an argument with an idiot, you've already lost. They thrive on wasted time and frustration.

    • @QUICKBOOKS1
      @QUICKBOOKS1 Před 28 dny

      FULLY! The best way to get OUT of that conversation, by changing the Subject.

    • @Godzilla_Star_Eater
      @Godzilla_Star_Eater Před 19 dny

      SJWs, feminists, and cultists use that same principle to avoid debate. You're just scared and can't handle cognitive dissonance so you rationalise not communicating with us. When one side is unwilling to talk, the people on the fence see the side more open to talking as more reasonable, which is the flat Earthers.

    • @MrMancreatedgod
      @MrMancreatedgod Před 17 dny +2

      Bruh. People run in circles all the time. Exercise has many benefits. Smdh

    • @killjoyredux8361
      @killjoyredux8361 Před 4 dny +1

      The problem is that this applies to both sides of any argument yet hubris blinds us to our own echo chambers

    • @RegularFlyGuy
      @RegularFlyGuy Před dnem

      @@killjoyredux8361 sounds like a you problem more than anything else to be honest. While this is something that plague many people, its also quite easy to have a discussion. The exchange of ideas is not a new concept and has been around for thousands of years.
      If you’re having a discussion with someone with the intent of sticking to your guns regardless of the evidence presented to you, thats your problem.

  • @cyberwolf2l967
    @cyberwolf2l967 Před 24 dny +41

    Some people feel that their lives are so boring that they need to feel persecuted in order to feel important.

    • @adrianstanczak1127
      @adrianstanczak1127 Před 6 dny +1

      Yeah but... ARE they persecuted? Sure everyone but them thinks they're idiots, but nobody really persecutes them or tells them they're not allowed.

    • @RegularFlyGuy
      @RegularFlyGuy Před dnem

      @@adrianstanczak1127 no, the argument is that they will openly say it in order to vomit their opinions and bogus science. They’re trying to bait you into a discussion you dont wanna have.
      Most of them will actually do “research” (youtube videos) and memorize what they see and hear. Now you’re in a discussion with someone who actually has arguments that you will most likely not be able to disprove on the spot. You, as a regular person, chose to accept this “theory” because its just fucking logical and people who dedicated their lives to study the universe are telling you its true. So you most likely dont have the required evidences to prove and explain why earth is in fact, not flat.

  • @thrax1920
    @thrax1920 Před měsícem +398

    Actually the world is resting on the backs of four huge elephants which are standing on the back of an enormous turtle, named Great A'Tuin.

    • @DarthZ01
      @DarthZ01 Před měsícem +12

      but whats under the turtle?

    • @Orannis9
      @Orannis9 Před měsícem +39

      Incorrect. Great A'Tuin is the specific space turtle, or Chelys galactica, that holds up the Discworld. Some other giant space turtle is holding up the earth.

    • @vanillaskin1907
      @vanillaskin1907 Před měsícem +14

      @@DarthZ01 It goes all the way down

    • @Max_Ohm
      @Max_Ohm Před měsícem +13

      @@DarthZ01 More turtles.

    • @HasegawaRayven
      @HasegawaRayven Před měsícem +32

      ​@@DarthZ01It's turtles all the way down.

  • @Stu98765
    @Stu98765 Před měsícem +290

    The funniest shit is flat earthers doing experiments to prove the earth is flat and then proving it's round.

    • @TheHorreK2
      @TheHorreK2 Před měsícem +36

      And then never talk about it. Still love the 15° per Hour Drift-Rotation that was proven during the Flat-Earth Documentary and they never talk about after that

    • @michaelpettersson4919
      @michaelpettersson4919 Před měsícem +13

      And then they start to adjust their measuring methods and fail again.

    • @KE-yq2eg
      @KE-yq2eg Před měsícem +1

      I've never seen that but would love to find proof of it being round.

    • @OP-lk4tw
      @OP-lk4tw Před 29 dny +28

      ​@@KE-yq2egyou have proof everyday, it's called the sun

    • @ziploc2000
      @ziploc2000 Před 29 dny

      They also have a habit of doing "experiments" where they fudge the experiment, like putting a camera below the edge of a table so they can make a coin disappear behind the table.
      The difficultly is telling whether they push Flat Earth because they're stupid, or just for clicks and attention. Most of the "big names" in FE have been caught out lying or practicing deception more than once.

  • @durbledurb3992
    @durbledurb3992 Před 14 dny +8

    My elderly father asked me a while back: 'if the Earth is spinning at 5,000 miles-per-hour, how does all the water in the oceans not spin off into space?' All I could do was look at him in shock.
    I'd have a far better life now at almost 50 if I hadn't listened to any of his advice as I was growing up. When you're a kid looking for guidance you are relying on your parent to set you in the right direction. It's a lottery. He may have had some of that passed to him, so he thought that was how to raise a kid, but that doesn't help me much.

    • @samiuya1948
      @samiuya1948 Před 9 dny +2

      you should ask him if the train is running at 50miles per hour then why he didn't fall down when he was standing

    • @DeadSnail1204
      @DeadSnail1204 Před 5 dny

      A lack of knowledge makes you think he was completely brainless and no good advice to give.
      That's a very ignorant and ridiculous mind set to have

  • @gratmccall
    @gratmccall Před 16 dny +7

    The flat earther X account tweeted "Flat Earthers have members all over the GLOBE!"
    yes, they actually used globe...

  • @sinom6707
    @sinom6707 Před měsícem +1149

    Flat earth is so last year its all about the flat hollow earth now.

    • @treytilley333
      @treytilley333 Před měsícem +49

      That was so 2010

    • @you_tube6733
      @you_tube6733 Před měsícem +53

      its all about past the ice walls.

    • @promethiac2641
      @promethiac2641 Před měsícem +10

      We should retro The Matrix

    • @94DEATHSOUL94
      @94DEATHSOUL94 Před měsícem +10

      Thats sooo 17th century

    • @serenityssolace
      @serenityssolace Před měsícem +20

      I always talked about the hollow earth. Not only I am obsessed with this theory, even the Nazis and Hitler were. They sent entire expedition teams in Antarctica to find the entrance to Agartha, the home of the Aryans, the home of the Vril, the home of the Hyperboreans

  • @crashyburnymit4080
    @crashyburnymit4080 Před měsícem +241

    The best thing the internet did was to give voice to everyone, the worst thing it did was to give voice to everyone.

    • @Stevo.100
      @Stevo.100 Před měsícem +14

      The problem isn't everyone has a voice, it's that everyone isn't critical. That means people spew out their ignorance and people blindly believe it. If people were critical there'd be absolutely no problem at all with people being able to say whatever they want. This is actually one of the reasons why people are f*scist and believe it's justified. Because they understand humans having freedom can be dangerous.

    • @Teerts63
      @Teerts63 Před měsícem +9

      Yeah that’s how ended up with people thinking men can be women, or that being gay is okay.

    • @danielschmaderer
      @danielschmaderer Před měsícem +3

      @@Stevo.100 precisely. Furthermore, a lot of people have a difficult time admitting they’re wrong as well. I’ve been in heated debates, to find out at the end that I was wrong. Admitting so was hard, but people tend to respect you when you can own up to being wrong. A lot of flat earthers are so prideful and just won’t admit that they’re wrong and don’t know what they’re talking about.

    • @Stevo.100
      @Stevo.100 Před měsícem +4

      @@Teerts63 Yeah, thankfully that happened.

    • @kekistaniattackhelicopter2242
      @kekistaniattackhelicopter2242 Před měsícem +1

      How do I know a conspiracy is real? Tom Scott makes a video about it.

  • @PrefoX
    @PrefoX Před 7 dny +3

    "it doesn't sound crazy if you are stupid" THAT IS THE BEST SENTENCE EVER

  • @TotallyUniqueWords
    @TotallyUniqueWords Před 15 dny +6

    Why don't flat-earthers use GPS?
    Because they can’t find the “flat” option.

  • @Zetherior
    @Zetherior Před měsícem +175

    People have a strange belief that people in the past were less intelligent than we are now, or that they didn't think exactly as we do today.
    They did.. people have not changed at all, they just had less tools, less resources and limited language.

    • @robertnapier624
      @robertnapier624 Před měsícem +13

      Why are Greek philosophers often quoted?

    • @Lighthammer18
      @Lighthammer18 Před měsícem +28

      We can see further today because we stand on the shoulders of giants.

    • @huntermad5668
      @huntermad5668 Před měsícem +7

      ​​​​​@@robertnapier624
      Greek philosophers are a bunch of theorists. They have way more thing wrong than right.
      The scholars of Islamic Golden Age have way more impacts in modern science than them. They took what Greek had and develop it way way more and with early scientific methods
      Many fields of Modern science came from them not those Greeks.
      The misconception came from the Renaissance where people dug up old and proven to be false or outdated Greek works to use instead of much more developed works from the Arabs.
      Many actual discoveries the Renaissance came from the further developments of Arabs works.

    • @Panteni87
      @Panteni87 Před měsícem +38

      ​@@huntermad5668 The majority of Islamic contribution was translating the texts of the old philosophers...

    • @huntermad5668
      @huntermad5668 Před měsícem +9

      @@Panteni87
      Nope, that is only one part. The translators didn't only translate but studied to see whether the works were true or not. Then used that knowledge to build up even more.
      Also, just like today, U can't just ask somebody to translate a scientific works, u need to use subject experts so those translators were all accomplished men with decades to studies before becoming translators. That was a high paying job in contact with many really valuable books, one need to meet requirements to be accepeted
      The idea is to teach and improve the ancient knowledge (the correct ones) not blindly copy them.
      Many of the later generation scholars are not translators but scholars of various Houses of Wisdom.
      Like Alogrthim came from the name of the Father of Algebra.
      Through, in philosophy, many sources showed the same type of arguments between different schools. Some scholars wrote about the ridiculousness of the sides performed the same debates like thousand of years ago

  • @NPC10912
    @NPC10912 Před měsícem +276

    Its easier to fool someone then to convince them they have been fooled. Its cognitive dissonance* Insult me all you want this statement rings true.

    • @NPC10912
      @NPC10912 Před měsícem +17

      ​@circusbrains thanks for the spell check!

    • @JohnSmith-xf2fw
      @JohnSmith-xf2fw Před měsícem +23

      Omg so true brother and let's not forget:
      It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.
      He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose.
      A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool.
      Insult me all you want, these statements ring true!

    • @Zemlja_je_ravna
      @Zemlja_je_ravna Před měsícem +13

      They have all balloon footage they need, but they still believe earth is curved and water curves with it.

    • @leogtt1627
      @leogtt1627 Před měsícem +8

      @@Zemlja_je_ravna balloon footage lmao dog

    • @anotherlover6954
      @anotherlover6954 Před měsícem +9

      True. For example: We never went to the moon. People find that fact hard to swallow.

  • @noelahg79
    @noelahg79 Před 23 dny +8

    "It doesn't sound crazy if you're stupid." Well said.

  • @tut28Angel
    @tut28Angel Před 9 dny +3

    I understand our ancestors thinking the earth being flat. But not us.

  • @357smallblock
    @357smallblock Před měsícem +191

    The Earth isn't round or flat, it's fucked

  • @kdraw7178
    @kdraw7178 Před měsícem +421

    Just add 4 elephants and a giant sea turtle underneath, that would atleast make it sensible.

    • @Historyeel
      @Historyeel Před měsícem +20

      Nice reference

    • @DY__599
      @DY__599 Před měsícem +10

      I second this, nice reference!

    • @GrrillaFinger
      @GrrillaFinger Před měsícem +28

      Yeah sure buddy, Maybe if you believe that elephants are real.

    • @Marinanor
      @Marinanor Před měsícem +27

      You can't fool me, it's turtles all the way down.

    • @ozzymandius666
      @ozzymandius666 Před měsícem +8

      A'Tuin!

  • @GhastlyH
    @GhastlyH Před 20 dny +5

    I can not only prove the world is flat I can use the flat Earth to make predictions about when the earth will end. Who created the Earth? God, g-o-d God. What is God spelled backwards? Dog, d-o-g dog. The Earth is obviously a Frisbee that God has thrown into the cosmos and the Earth will end when it is caught by God's dog. In mathematics we call that symmetry. Check and mate atheists.

    • @NneonNTJ
      @NneonNTJ Před 20 dny +3

      This joke is better thought trough than the actual FE theory.
      Very impressive.

    • @ItachiUchiha-yc9nv
      @ItachiUchiha-yc9nv Před 2 dny +1

      Makes more sense than every religion🤣

  • @loquist42
    @loquist42 Před 10 dny +2

    "It doesn't sound crazy if you're stupid."
    That's the most impressively concise explanation of flat earth I've ever heard.

  • @BhikkhuBear
    @BhikkhuBear Před měsícem +208

    "Humans were supposed to eat raw potatoes and die at the age of 32 due to a tooth ache" is probably the funniest thing I have heard all week. I love that.

    • @Josh-wu9ef
      @Josh-wu9ef Před měsícem +10

      Is that Asmon's present condition?

    • @Skylancer727
      @Skylancer727 Před měsícem +8

      I mean it's so true. Humanity made it 200K years like that. Thinking everyone one of us is capable of knowing everything or at least having a trace understanding is very wishful.

    • @taylemgames2652
      @taylemgames2652 Před měsícem +10

      Even tho this is untrue. If someone survived childhood/childbirth, most people lived into their 60s and early 70s. Other factors of course were war, famine, accidents, etc.

    • @GoersEdits
      @GoersEdits Před měsícem

      I almost spat out my drink driving i was rollin

    • @XanKreigor
      @XanKreigor Před měsícem +6

      @@taylemgames2652 Yep, main reason why most families back in the day tried to have 3+ children. Since if you had at least 3, that nearly guaranteed one of them survived to adulthood.

  • @fatleg7985
    @fatleg7985 Před měsícem +258

    My personal theory is that Flat Earth started as a massive troll post that spiraled out of control. Like a few people online posted some pseudoscience nonsense that they thought no one would be stupid enough to believe, and then watched in some combination of horror and amusement as they found out that yes, there are people that stupid.

    • @serbrighterunagainst9231
      @serbrighterunagainst9231 Před měsícem +14

      the reason why there is more and more of them, is they didnt booster up

    • @Burgo361
      @Burgo361 Před měsícem +43

      Considering what the old internet was like that is probably what actually happened, there are probably still people that believe there are haunted websites that can curse you to death as well, that was a big one back in the day.

    • @user-df4kf6fg7h
      @user-df4kf6fg7h Před měsícem +17

      Honestly, flat earthers are the best argument against the idea of the free market of ideas.

    • @wyzkun
      @wyzkun Před měsícem +10

      well flat earth society been around longer than the internet itself. but still it could be someone that saw it and think it is dumb and post it on the internet.

    • @Tclans
      @Tclans Před měsícem +14

      “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”
      - A. Einstein

  • @Canadian_Guy_82
    @Canadian_Guy_82 Před 9 dny +2

    What people don't understand is they think a theory is a guess. In science that's absolutely not true. A hypothesis is a guess. A theory is formed when dozens, if not hundreds, of hypothesis' are found to to be accurate. In science a theory is the closest thing we'll ever get to a fact.

  • @Guyonnn
    @Guyonnn Před 16 dny +3

    Believing something you can’t prove wrong is called having faith. Believing something you can prove wrong is just being dumb.

  • @anonisnoone6125
    @anonisnoone6125 Před měsícem +211

    "You can't reason a person out of a position they didn't reason themselves into." Asmon be saying some fire quotes sometimes. This literally applies to most of the morons on twitter and reddit.

    • @Cuwop2
      @Cuwop2 Před měsícem

      I remind some friends of this too often. Based asmOn

    • @rmy420
      @rmy420 Před měsícem

      I read this as he said it 😂

    • @kylemenos
      @kylemenos Před měsícem +15

      Unfortunately this also applies to the education system and government.

    • @cwjalexx
      @cwjalexx Před měsícem +12

      It’s a good quote but it’s an old one

    • @enkiduthewildman
      @enkiduthewildman Před měsícem +11

      "It doesn't sound crazy if you're stupid."
      My understanding of the internet just leveled up two levels

  • @MythicalMaestro69
    @MythicalMaestro69 Před měsícem +362

    "The Flat Earth society has members all around the GLOBE"

    • @down-the-rabbit-hole
      @down-the-rabbit-hole Před měsícem +13

      yea, delusion has no boundaries.

    • @8584zender
      @8584zender Před měsícem

      TBH, the original flat earth society was done as a joke to see how far you could take a bogus narrative and try to support it with argument. Since CZcams, it's about half dudes trying to make money by getting clicks, and about half that are scientifically illiterate.

    • @VladTepes-SaviorofEurope-mw4uy
      @VladTepes-SaviorofEurope-mw4uy Před měsícem +10

      Like how people still believe whatever "the news" say

    • @Blink_____
      @Blink_____ Před měsícem +3

      What is satire

    • @Bugdenl
      @Bugdenl Před měsícem

      It's one of those controlled opposition jokes to spread the propaganda. Bit like how they lied to people that the hospitals were full in 2020, whilst simultaneously all around the world medical staff having enough time to choreograph dance videos together... Joke's on those who laugh without investigating.

  • @nomi_4773
    @nomi_4773 Před 27 dny +7

    I WAS A FLAT EARTHER FOR 3 YEARS!
    here's what I found.
    It's not that the people are dumb they are just bored with their lives, and being a flat earther brings about excitement. the kind that is addictive. People subconsciously knew it was all bs. At least I did.

    • @zakaris7259
      @zakaris7259 Před 26 dny +1

      I mean like open world game about that would be cool tho

    • @CarlosAM1
      @CarlosAM1 Před 16 dny +2

      Imma be real with you, I find the prospect of a nearly infinite universe with equally as many possibilities to be far more exciting than believing we live in some random disk and that everything outside of it is fake.

    • @nomi_4773
      @nomi_4773 Před 14 dny

      @@CarlosAM1 I agree now, but back then it wasn't how a universe is that was exciting but the exciting part was discovering something that only a few people know. A band of rebels against the antagonistic world government.
      It's all bs now that I think about it.

    • @CarlosAM1
      @CarlosAM1 Před 14 dny

      @@nomi_4773 Oh, yeah that makes sense. Goes for most conspiracy theories as well, the moon landing being fake, 9/11 being controlled demolitions, HAARP controlling the weather, etc. I'd imagine many people who believe those things also like the idea of thinking they know something most people don't, and there in comes the whole thing about having to somehow teach someone who thinks that they were lied to that they are, in fact, being lied to and that the truth was what they used to think before.

    • @cavestoryking8761
      @cavestoryking8761 Před 11 dny

      I kinda doubt you are legit... but if you are, what pushed you away from the view, and what pushed you towards it?

  • @DeepFriedOreoOffline
    @DeepFriedOreoOffline Před měsícem +10

    People don't go to school and learn a bunch of varied facts so that they will remember them for the rest of their life. People go to school and learn a bunch of varied facts to build a sense of schedule, and to give them the opportunity to decide which facts they are most interested in to choose their own livelihood.

    • @dakotah4866
      @dakotah4866 Před 18 dny

      Play downside is most people who went to school to study facts studied under David rockefeller's educational system here in the union so they're not very bright. they're just taught to conform
      Rockefeller said I don't want a nation of thinkers I want a nation of workers.

    • @Grim-Crusader
      @Grim-Crusader Před 11 dny +1

      It's called self selecting servitude. The most efficient form of slavery. You are a genius 😮

  • @lasjames7516
    @lasjames7516 Před měsícem +192

    Never thought I'd see Asmon react to Hossenfelder

    • @josephcorferro7199
      @josephcorferro7199 Před měsícem +35

      Been watching her for years, she's great

    • @ExceptBacon
      @ExceptBacon Před měsícem +8

      He’s reacted to at least one more of Sabines videos fairly recently

    • @alekmoth
      @alekmoth Před měsícem +3

      Probably would have to. If she only opened her mouth when she speaks. The clenched teeth is so painful and impossible to ignore.

    • @TheBl4ckSh33p
      @TheBl4ckSh33p Před měsícem +2

      ​@@ExceptBaconseems I missed it. 😱 I watch her videos almost daily.

    • @hadesunderworld4203
      @hadesunderworld4203 Před měsícem +15

      @@alekmothshe is a smart human being and her first language isn’t English … but everything she says is fact

  • @derekgrubbs4754
    @derekgrubbs4754 Před měsícem +133

    I think the whole "Look at who you can't criticize and you'll see who rules you" is referring more to when it's actually forbidden and illegal to criticize a person or group, rather than just what's socially acceptable. It may be frowned upon to criticize kids with cancer but it's not illegal. But if disagreeing with someone, criticizing them or their beliefs, or simply not going along with their ideas leads to you being arrested, fined, or jailed, then that quote becomes a lot more valid.

    • @DarthZ01
      @DarthZ01 Před měsícem +47

      like leaving a skid mark on a pride flag drawn in the road resulting in jail time.

    • @BasedHyperborean
      @BasedHyperborean Před měsícem +24

      @@GOD_AND_FLAT_EARTH_MUSIC_VIDEObro stop schizo posting 😂

    • @Genesiscoupe3000
      @Genesiscoupe3000 Před měsícem +1

      The amount of things that turned out to be actually fact about covid, that people called "misinformation" or a "conspiracy theory" is insane!
      No I will never just "trust the science" again!
      Especially when it's an experimental science!

    • @nom6758
      @nom6758 Před měsícem +12

      Yeah thats why people get arrested for not saying the right pronouns or burning pride flags.

    • @Cuwop2
      @Cuwop2 Před měsícem +3

      ​@@GOD_AND_FLAT_EARTH_MUSIC_VIDEOi pray for u buddy.

  • @annoyingtiger888x2
    @annoyingtiger888x2 Před měsícem +14

    People try to shame me for not voting, but I know I'm dumb and I don't understand this shit. Every time I was forced to vote, I just chose whoever had the coolest name because I don't know these people and I don't understand what they stand for.

    • @xfranchize
      @xfranchize Před 15 dny

      I don't vote on survivor either it's the illusion of choice.

  • @nathanbrammer8471
    @nathanbrammer8471 Před měsícem +663

    The Greeks worked out the Earth wasn't flat using sticks, shadows and distance, it's not difficult.

    • @serbrighterunagainst9231
      @serbrighterunagainst9231 Před měsícem +18

      It's not a ball neither.

    • @jacobcollier4587
      @jacobcollier4587 Před měsícem +8

      @@serbrighterunagainst9231bro I’ve seen it

    • @chigchong2805
      @chigchong2805 Před měsícem +99

      @@serbrighterunagainst9231 not a perfect ball

    • @chiquita683
      @chiquita683 Před měsícem +4

      Yea but you cant do that today

    • @hopmajibhohepeajibho7595
      @hopmajibhohepeajibho7595 Před měsícem +40

      Actually, that's wrong. What Eratosthenes did was a measurement of circumference of the earth but the way he did that does not prove or falsify that earth is a sphere. It's a common misconception for some reason

  • @gabrielsullivan5518
    @gabrielsullivan5518 Před měsícem +183

    I had a flat earther friend once, and had a debate over what the sky would look like if the Sun went in circles. After I brought up several points that he could not reconcile with a flat earth, he, without joking, told me that "the sky is glitched". That it's like a projection or distorted portal to another realm, and it makes it look like the earth was round, while in reality it's flat.
    Asmon is absolutely right that taking flat earthers to space wouldn't solve a thing.

    • @BL33NB
      @BL33NB Před měsícem +33

      Thats true, gettin em there would not solve anything... but keeping em there would xD

    • @Sp3rw3r
      @Sp3rw3r Před měsícem +25

      You do not even need to go to space. A high-flying plane would do to see some curvature.
      When asked a flat earther about the curvature, he responded that the windows distort the view.
      I think this proves that point.

    • @Reblwitoutacause
      @Reblwitoutacause Před měsícem +10

      Bro, more than 50% of people can't picture an apple in their mind if you ask them to visualize one, nor answer how they would feel if they didn't have breakfast yesterday.

    • @michaelhazelton7286
      @michaelhazelton7286 Před měsícem +3

      Space is NASA CGI
      "Rocketships to nowhere" - Donald Trump

    • @chrisjohnstone9376
      @chrisjohnstone9376 Před měsícem +4

      ​@@Sp3rw3rhe was probably confused by your question since modern astrophysicists have already declared you won't see curvature at 100 000ft so if you think you saw it at 35 000 you must REALLY have your nose up against the window.

  • @neonshadow5005
    @neonshadow5005 Před měsícem +5

    "It doesn't sound crazy if you're stupid." Nailed it.
    Interest in Flat Earth as far as YT and other video platforms are concerned probably has a lot to do with the anti-Flerf channels that are enjoying a lot of popularity also.

  • @Sweetleaf82
    @Sweetleaf82 Před 21 dnem +4

    Chemtrail folks have absolutely lost the plot too. 99% won't get back out of that rabbit hole.

    • @Sweetleaf82
      @Sweetleaf82 Před 20 dny

      @TriIIiian 🤣

    • @Sweetleaf82
      @Sweetleaf82 Před 20 dny +3

      @TriIIiian I think my dad's in there
      Wish me luck! :/

    • @artistryspectrum512
      @artistryspectrum512 Před 11 dny

      There's worse things. You could be tricked to chopping off your ___'s.

  • @sirghosttoad7558
    @sirghosttoad7558 Před měsícem +166

    Flat Earthers have proven more times that the earth is round then flat and everytime they are like "hmmm, this data says we are wrong. Lets ignore this data"

    • @skyisthelimitreadyornotfor2
      @skyisthelimitreadyornotfor2 Před měsícem +1

      Observations alone are not science. Give independent and dependent variables in an experiment if you really want to make a point.

    • @cpames8773
      @cpames8773 Před měsícem

      What's round have to do with anything?

    • @joeharm8141
      @joeharm8141 Před měsícem +4

      Einstein married his own relations 🤮😬😬😬😬😬

    • @travismcnasty4239
      @travismcnasty4239 Před měsícem

      Well yeah. It's not because flat earthers are stupid... I mean it is true that they are willfully ignorant.
      It's just that scientists aren't trustworthy.

    • @Stevo.100
      @Stevo.100 Před měsícem +13

      The flat earthers have arrived lmao
      Dear flat earthers: get in a plane, travel in one direction, where will you end up? Back where you started. Why is there no real images of the flat earth and every image is a drawing? If there's an ice wall and it's guarded, why is there not a single video showing either the ice wall or the guards? Why can I not see the Eiffel tower by using a telescope in Australia? I know I'm wasting my time, but it feels good to give them that feeling of cognitive dissonance as they scramble to make weak excuses for why they can't admit they believe something obviously wrong.

  • @ragneue
    @ragneue Před měsícem +79

    The only good thing about flat earth is their map illustrations, it's obviously innacurate but it'd go so hard on a DnD campaign

    • @utrak
      @utrak Před měsícem +2

      Flat Forgotten Realms. Nice
      But that would make Spelljammer a lie

    • @thehoodedteddy1335
      @thehoodedteddy1335 Před měsícem +6

      The best part is they cannot make a single map that makes all of their beliefs make sense simultaneously. They have to pull out a completely different map for each explanation

    • @RykanXP
      @RykanXP Před měsícem +2

      It's a disk in the crystal sphere. The top of the disk is toril while the bottom is abier. Nobody reaches the other side because nobody wants to deal with aboleths. ​@@utrak

    • @eddyronbinson2466
      @eddyronbinson2466 Před měsícem

      should try the discworld dnd campaign, wont be disappointed

    • @anotherlover6954
      @anotherlover6954 Před měsícem +1

      I like the map of all the continents outside of the Antarctic circle.

  • @gratmccall
    @gratmccall Před 16 dny +4

    Flat earth conspiracy is my logic check... If I start believing in it, I know I've gone off the deep end officially and require help.

    • @tjjones621
      @tjjones621 Před 16 dny +1

      So true. I saw myself voluntarily showing up at the insane asylum and being asked why I am there... lol

  • @zzznardszzz4715
    @zzznardszzz4715 Před 20 dny +5

    Flat earth CZcamsrs aren’t just stupid, they’re predatory grifters.

    • @Dave_of_Mordor
      @Dave_of_Mordor Před 19 dny

      How much are they making? I want to join them

  • @sefatsilverlake3816
    @sefatsilverlake3816 Před měsícem +39

    22:30-22:50 This is the main point of the matter. I saw a scientist mentioning how these conspiracies became widely spread in a period that contains 2 factors:
    - Mass communication accesible for most people.
    - Highly divisive politics.
    They are merely a symptom of a divided and distrustful society.

    • @SkemeKOS
      @SkemeKOS Před měsícem

      Is it a conspiracy or a scientific fact that large bodies of water seek level?
      Is it a conspiracy or a scientific fact that you can not have gas pressure adjacent to a vacuum without a container?
      'Flat earth' is a result of people thinking critically and logically, and actually applying science. Unlike the globe which is based purely on faith and theories.

    • @CorrosiveCitrus
      @CorrosiveCitrus Před měsícem

      @@SkemeKOS if you "can't have gas pressure adjacent to a vacuum without a contain", how do you explain the pressure gradient right here on earth?

    • @Godzilla_Star_Eater
      @Godzilla_Star_Eater Před 19 dny

      Funny how anti-woke people suddenly support the WEF when it comes to the Earth shape

  • @Pressbutan
    @Pressbutan Před měsícem +330

    Can’t believe Asmon is a woke round earther, smh

    • @hyruler036
      @hyruler036 Před měsícem +11

      He’s not voting for Trump either, smh

    • @chrisl6845
      @chrisl6845 Před měsícem +24

      Globehead

    • @serbrighterunagainst9231
      @serbrighterunagainst9231 Před měsícem

      Tesla stated that gravity does not exist, I guess he doesn't beleive in AC, radio waves nor the "wireless world" vision of Tesla... or does he?

    • @serbrighterunagainst9231
      @serbrighterunagainst9231 Před měsícem +7

      Tesla said there is no gravity

    • @collinpavle654
      @collinpavle654 Před měsícem +16

      @@hyruler036brother. Look at your username. Are you okay?

  • @tjjones621
    @tjjones621 Před 28 dny +5

    Flatearth map reward now over $91M. I wonder what's taking so long...

  • @dannyv2230
    @dannyv2230 Před 17 dny +4

    A couple years ago I had some insane coworkers at my job. They were super racist, antivax, and flat earthers. I’m so glad I got out of there

  • @Mimo-ye5pm
    @Mimo-ye5pm Před měsícem +230

    Love that they go for the Christian religion because talking about any other one would be offensive

    • @PARAN0IDxGERBIL
      @PARAN0IDxGERBIL Před měsícem +62

      The adherents of the other big one will harm you physically if you say anything bad about it, so it makes sense

    • @wingsoficarus1139
      @wingsoficarus1139 Před měsícem +38

      To be fair, the people most vocal about flat Earth are the ones with access to the internet. The western countries (mainly US and UK) just so happen to have the most access and the main religion is Christianity which is why the correlation happens.

    • @cfmfxr
      @cfmfxr Před měsícem +64

      Christianity actually believes the earth is round...

    • @kurvaanyad12
      @kurvaanyad12 Před měsícem +73

      Im an atheist but the fact that you can mock christians makes their religion 1000% more appealing to me than any other one.

    • @roboorb8477
      @roboorb8477 Před měsícem +20

      @@kurvaanyad12 same i was sad to see the typical reddit athiest take that makes us all look bad.

  • @LuKiSCraft
    @LuKiSCraft Před měsícem +71

    "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" - Sam Harris

    • @joshanonline
      @joshanonline Před měsícem +19

      Yeah, as someone that has long-time friends that are Flat-Earthers, I came to these conclusions years ago. But Asmon puts it best: "They just don't believe it." It's all faith-based. They rather believe the smallest evidence that they can interpret to prove their argument than thousands against it.

    • @nillehessy
      @nillehessy Před měsícem

      @@joshanonline i think most of them are either proud/peer/friends/locked in closet commies and/or folks that hate/can´t stand/never tried the good old deity(ies) or those who really just don´t givv shxt whatsoever yeh only when the beer is empty
      yeh those in the system ofcourse who are scared for well yeh i mean crazy shxt might happen when it all finally goes over that certain keeling over percentage
      hehehh hey let it be and let it shine is what i´m sayin

    • @SkemeKOS
      @SkemeKOS Před měsícem +2

      Exactly. If only globe believers would stop ignoring the damning evidence against their fantasy model.

    • @SkemeKOS
      @SkemeKOS Před měsícem

      @@joshanonline That's because Asmond is a fool. Flat earth has hundreds of proofs. HUGE, undeniable proofs. Whereas the globe has zero.
      Just as an easy starter -
      Why don't you have any evidence of curvature? Why has it never been detected(measured)? Not even 1mm
      Why can't you explain gas pressure next to a vacuum, without a container?
      Why can't you demonstrate water sticking a ball?
      Why can't you detect the earth rotating?

    • @Conserpov
      @Conserpov Před měsícem +2

      Too bad Sam Harris exposed himself as an unreasonable person recently.
      I used to respect him, and that's a very good quote.

  • @dmitriyobidin6049
    @dmitriyobidin6049 Před 15 dny +2

    The irony is that flat earthers use technologies to "spread their knowledge" that was made and are possible just because scientists built it around the fact that the earth is a globe...

  • @Cosmic_Corpse22
    @Cosmic_Corpse22 Před měsícem +11

    "I believe this thing because I dont understand the truth and because I dont understand the truth, people that tell me the truth must be lying."

  • @RTheu2109
    @RTheu2109 Před měsícem +102

    "flat earthers has members all around the globe"
    Idk is this phrase is real but it just sums up everything to me

    • @KE-yq2eg
      @KE-yq2eg Před měsícem

      That was a quote by the Flat Earth Society. They are pretty much a group of deceptionists formed to make people believe how stupid flat earthers are and it worked.

    • @Doomknight86
      @Doomknight86 Před měsícem +5

      its real one of their goup have twitter and they said that

    • @kaim0d0
      @kaim0d0 Před měsícem

      It is not. Its by the "Flatearth Society" which is an stupid disinformation grp.

    • @vianneyb.8776
      @vianneyb.8776 Před 26 dny +1

      It comes from a tweet by the Flat Earth Society, but I think this group is satirical

    • @kaim0d0
      @kaim0d0 Před 26 dny

      @@vianneyb.8776 It's not a satirical group, it's a gate-keeper group spreading disinformation.

  • @VygoLive
    @VygoLive Před měsícem +167

    Hollow earth > flat earth

    • @samderry6305
      @samderry6305 Před měsícem +2

      Agreed

    • @Squirberus
      @Squirberus Před měsícem +8

      isn't a raging torrent of liquid hot magma with a giant hunk of metal pretty dope tho? what am I missing?

    • @RJHetherman3
      @RJHetherman3 Před měsícem +2

      U mean like caves?

    • @codahampton8653
      @codahampton8653 Před měsícem +4

      Hollow moon inside out earth

    • @jaybee8862
      @jaybee8862 Před měsícem +4

      Nah man... Hollow Moon + Flat Earth all the way ❤

  • @PeterMasalski93
    @PeterMasalski93 Před 8 dny +2

    You know what I like about a flat earth? Is that you can directly jump into space without using a rocket, just walk over the cliff at the edge of the earth, and you fall into space. I bet I can save Elon Musk billions of dollars.

    • @tjjones621
      @tjjones621 Před 7 dny

      They also think they have seen the Sun in the clouds which proves the moon landings and we can just take a plane there...

  • @dk-sky3820
    @dk-sky3820 Před měsícem +19

    21:59
    “This (flat earth) is a GLOBAL conspiracy”
    Lmao 😂😂😂 Indeed

  • @xdferocious6016
    @xdferocious6016 Před měsícem +40

    Birds arent real is the coolest thing ive heard ina long time

    • @AndSaveAsManyAsYouCan
      @AndSaveAsManyAsYouCan Před měsícem +7

      That's my favorite one.

    • @Ed-ealmighty
      @Ed-ealmighty Před měsícem +4

      Their heads move so robotic 😆

    • @jgobroho
      @jgobroho Před měsícem

      Government surveillance drones

    • @Mizikame
      @Mizikame Před měsícem +4

      Where have you been? This has been a thing since like 2012 lol

    • @danielschmaderer
      @danielschmaderer Před měsícem

      When I heard this one, I laughed so hard. I didn’t believe that was an actual conspiracy theory.

  • @casketclubmerch
    @casketclubmerch Před měsícem +4

    I've genuinely never understood the 'purpose' of believing the Earth is flat? What do they gain from arguing that it is? Is it just an act of defiance against scientific authority?

    • @Zemlja_je_ravna
      @Zemlja_je_ravna Před měsícem +1

      More like a search for the truth. Defiance does not give any motivation. Researching for the truth give motivation for exploration.

    • @CorrosiveCitrus
      @CorrosiveCitrus Před měsícem +2

      Basically yes

    • @electricdawn2258
      @electricdawn2258 Před 23 dny

      They believe earth is flat, because if it were a sphere, then science would be right, and science can't be right, because then evolution would be correct, and when evolution is correct, they are apes, and they don't like to be apes.
      They want to be "speshull"! Also, they're conspiracy zealots. They're distrustful in the EXTREME of everything "official" or "mainstream". So, earth can't be a sphere, because that is the official point of view. Which they'll never trust.
      It's a very stressful life IMHO. How can you go shopping, without fearing all the time that you won't be poisoned?

    • @dhimgirish7161
      @dhimgirish7161 Před 23 dny

      @@Zemlja_je_ravna Nah flat earthers are not searching for truth. They are just getting a emotional high by opposing the smartest people that ever lived on earth and feeling they are equal to them or even better than them. They are literally hundreds of science experiments you can do to prove that earth is round but they put the least amount of effort and just open their mouth and say earth is flat and feel good.

  • @RedPatick
    @RedPatick Před 26 dny +2

    Asmongold's take on religious people being more likely prone to believe in conspiracy isn't awful because it isn't true as in fact it is.
    The problem is that conspiracy theories and the Bible(not religion) are not comparable .
    The Bible it's a complex I'd say enhanced history book, people will never understand what's beyond their limits.

  • @Soggygranite
    @Soggygranite Před měsícem +160

    Ive never understood why the idea earth is round could be that unbelievable. Every object visible in the sky is a globe…

    • @namaanda5349
      @namaanda5349 Před měsícem +3

      ^thanks for the laugh

    • @kekistaniattackhelicopter2242
      @kekistaniattackhelicopter2242 Před měsícem +6

      No, It's a disk :D

    • @Saandy_
      @Saandy_ Před měsícem +43

      You see, some of them think that only earth is a disk and all other planets are globes. Others think all planets are disks, and every other planet is constantly rotating in such a way that they always point towards earth, making them look round at all times. I guess in this theory, earth is the centre of the universe? Point is, they can't come to a consensus.

    • @Metallijosh100
      @Metallijosh100 Před měsícem +20

      ​@@Saandy_ The idea they're disks pointing towards us his hilarious, you can literally see them spinning as globes. What a sad world.

    • @themurmeli88
      @themurmeli88 Před měsícem +19

      @@Metallijosh100 Especially something like Jupiter. It even has a bigger-than-earth size spot that you can use as a literal point of reference to see that it is rotating.

  • @jayrodathome
    @jayrodathome Před měsícem +15

    If the earth is round how come when I talk to my friends in Australia they aren’t upside down in the zoom video?

    • @oldjose9110
      @oldjose9110 Před měsícem +2

      because australia doesn't exist so does your friend

    • @SebaztienHawke-ci5hm
      @SebaztienHawke-ci5hm Před 22 dny +1

      Because their camera is also upside down, duh! Your screen just flips it. Software 😂

    • @prosbo
      @prosbo Před 4 dny

      Because Australia doesn't follow the curve of the sphere, it sticks out to the side so it's level and flat like every land mass.

  • @bloodvayne8183
    @bloodvayne8183 Před 2 dny +1

    Flat earth people are the type of people that if they went to space they would say the windows on the rocket are tv screens.

  • @russellschie1876
    @russellschie1876 Před měsícem +4

    The religious people that hold onto the claim when they are very intelligent and successful in a tough field is even scarier.

  • @aedus2814
    @aedus2814 Před měsícem +49

    "Wizard's First Rule: people are stupid."
    "People are stupid; given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. Because people are stupid, they will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they are afraid it might be true. People's heads are full of knowledge, facts, and beliefs, and most of it is false, yet they think it all true. People are stupid; they can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet they are confident they can, and so are all the easier to fool." - Wizard's First Rule

    • @bl8388
      @bl8388 Před měsícem +4

      And humility is important. Even if we don't believe something as glaringly incorrect as flat earth, we all have delusional and ignorant beliefs.

    • @andya4528
      @andya4528 Před měsícem +4

      Great book by a great author.

    • @jbfwinning
      @jbfwinning Před měsícem +8

      Strange, would have said a horrendous book by a narcissistic hack

    • @dassadec
      @dassadec Před 26 dny

      ​@@andya4528the one good book of the series

    • @dassadec
      @dassadec Před 26 dny +1

      ​@@jbfwinningsame, but Wizards first rule wasn't too bad by itself.

  • @Hath.0
    @Hath.0 Před měsícem +49

    Wait until people find out the United Nations logo is the flat Earth map.

    • @AndSaveAsManyAsYouCan
      @AndSaveAsManyAsYouCan Před měsícem +4

      I thought that it was the F.O.W.L. map from Dark Wing Duck.

    • @bl8388
      @bl8388 Před měsícem +1

      @@AndSaveAsManyAsYouCan "Let's get dangerous." Oh, no, look what you made me do.

    • @zachattack245
      @zachattack245 Před měsícem +2

      I had to google this to make sure. That is actually hilarious.

    • @Zemlja_je_ravna
      @Zemlja_je_ravna Před měsícem +9

      For a strange reason airplane flight routes work only on that map.

    • @interstella0
      @interstella0 Před měsícem +1

      oh i did see this as a supporting evidence for their flat earth theory awhile back

  • @tommy605
    @tommy605 Před 14 dny +2

    couldntcareless6969 said something like don't trust science because it's just a theory, then followed that with "but all scientific laws should be followed" and it's obvious they have zero knowledge of science. A science theory is a description of that scientific law you think should be followed.
    Think of it this way. That laptop you're interested in, is a physical laptop. The spec sheet is the description, or in science terms, the theory, of that laptop. Now, the laptop description is not really a theory, it's a description, but in science, that's what a theory basically is. It describes the observable law. We see things act in a certain way, ie fall to the ground when dropped. The theory of gravity explains the how that happens, it describes the details of how that law works to interact with the object, the ground, the air around it, etc.
    And then he said there were 500 testimonies of Jesus returning, and that is 100% wrong. There is a claim that it was witnessed by 500 people, no names ever provided to that group of 500. Even in different books of the bible, they can't agree on who was there. Belief in Jesus is a 100% faith position, which, if you read the bible, that is what Jesus seems to want, so why bother trying to prove it to others? just believe and move on.

  • @Blasted2Oblivion
    @Blasted2Oblivion Před měsícem +3

    On the field of experiments to prove the Earth isn't flat, I am reminded of the guy (Bob something) used a $20k laser gyroscope to prove the Earth flat and it did the opposite.

    • @GuardianSoulkeeper
      @GuardianSoulkeeper Před měsícem +3

      Bob Knodel.
      His experiment wasn't about the shape of the Earth (that was Jeran Campanella) it was about whether or not it was moving.

    • @Blasted2Oblivion
      @Blasted2Oblivion Před měsícem +1

      @@GuardianSoulkeeper Thank you for the clarification. It's still stupid but that is an important distinction.

  • @knowingjake
    @knowingjake Před měsícem +43

    My theory is that flat-earthers are so aggressive about their beliefs and so unlikely to change them because they're desperate to be right about something that nobody else is. It would mean that for the first time in their lives, they're the smart one and everyone else is the idiot.

    • @bl8388
      @bl8388 Před měsícem +4

      A flat earther, a vegan and a keto pro enter a bar.

    • @zachattack245
      @zachattack245 Před měsícem +3

      Literally main character syndrome. People are so fucking bored and so mind-warped into desperately wanting something "cool" to be real (like a fantasy movie). They think they're special and the whole "I'm right, everyone else is wrong". Like you know that cartoon with the big crowd of people, and there's one guy standing alone saying "yes, you're actually all wrong". SO MANY PEOPLE fall for that shit. It's unreal.

    • @Zemlja_je_ravna
      @Zemlja_je_ravna Před měsícem

      They all believed the Globe before they have seen the truth. No one of them wanted it, but they would rather accept the truth than to live in a lie.

    • @TheMusicolophile
      @TheMusicolophile Před měsícem +3

      Aggressive? How?

    • @joeharm8141
      @joeharm8141 Před měsícem +2

      Yeah how are they aggressive?

  • @Hiddenow
    @Hiddenow Před měsícem +11

    The ancient egyptian mathematician Ptomely wrote that the Earth was likely round due to all known evidence. He was big into geometry and astronomy.

    • @boreasreal5911
      @boreasreal5911 Před měsícem +2

      he was hardly ancient egyptian, given that he lived during a time when the romans controlled egypt and was in time closer to us than to the builders of the great pyramids. Although the fundemental point of your argument still stands. People 2000 years ago understood that the earth was round.

  • @Hellabananachips
    @Hellabananachips Před 20 dny +3

    Flat Earthers source: trust me bro

  • @Carmidian
    @Carmidian Před 26 dny +3

    I hate when people say it's mainly a theory. People don't understand that theory in the scientific world is not the same thing as what you think it is. What you think and what the scientists call it is called a hypothesis! A theory is very well proven

    • @andrewssilva3634
      @andrewssilva3634 Před 25 dny

      dude, it is impossible to talk to people like Asmongold about this, they look at this video and think this is all there is about this theory...

    • @Scatterblades
      @Scatterblades Před 16 dny +1

      well yes. but it is a worlwide misconception. people almost always think that 'theory' is hypothesis even if it's already have evidence and proven. or they just unable to incorporate it well with the context. "it's just a theory" is something that i heard almost everyday in the office.

  • @Torqueware
    @Torqueware Před měsícem +47

    Its hard to have discussions with flat earthers as a HAM radio guy, because as soon as you explain beyond line-of-sight radio communications they shut down. And they cant justify why VHF and UHF communications dont go as far as HF, because they cant get past the hurdle of the earth being round.

    • @Abou47Pandas
      @Abou47Pandas Před měsícem +7

      the fact the states and Europe has had transatlantic communication since what-- the 20s-- and VHF and UHF just cant.

    • @Titanic_Tuna
      @Titanic_Tuna Před měsícem +3

      I imagine that must be frustrating for you whenever you're in that situation.

    • @effigy42
      @effigy42 Před měsícem

      Why do you need curvature to send HAM radio signals further than it it was a level ground? 😂😂😂😂

    • @effigy42
      @effigy42 Před měsícem

      Insanity

    • @charlethemagne5466
      @charlethemagne5466 Před měsícem +10

      @@effigy42 lol the total lack of awareness about your lack of information

  • @saltwatertaffybag
    @saltwatertaffybag Před měsícem +67

    CZcams adding a "for context" wikipedia article about how flat earth is nonsense unironically gives it legitimacy 🙄

    • @Apoch86
      @Apoch86 Před měsícem +12

      "I think thou doth protest too much" comes to mind haha

    • @GuardianSoulkeeper
      @GuardianSoulkeeper Před měsícem

      How?

    • @jf2849
      @jf2849 Před měsícem +1

      @@GuardianSoulkeeperthose “for context” are fake and used to push the mainstream narrative. Everyone knows google and CZcams can’t be trusted. They put those up to convince people that the subject in the video has been disproven.

    • @Abou47Pandas
      @Abou47Pandas Před měsícem +14

      @@GuardianSoulkeeper He is saying that from the perspective of a flat earther, it gives it more legitimacy, because to them the powers that be are trying to suppress it as if it proves their point. It also gives the topic more attention and thus the perceived legitimacy. The Idea is that by addressing it directly, it might imply that Flat earth is a significant enough topic to warrant an official rebuttal. Essentially... talking about fringe theory elevates its status by making it look like a valid subject to debate.

    • @salty_superspreader3647
      @salty_superspreader3647 Před měsícem +1

      SHE IS PROPAGANDA. THE SUN AND UP AND DOWN. RISE AND SUNSET. WOW THIS IS JUST TO CALL PEOPLE DUMB. SO YOU FEAR BEING CALLED DUMB.

  • @man23studio
    @man23studio Před 18 dny +1

    The statement that

    • @tjjones621
      @tjjones621 Před 18 dny +1

      I can name a few, but I haven't tried in a long time. I also forgot all those damned geometry and algebraic equations... something about the sides of an equilateral triangle are congruent. Whytf they couldn't just say they are equal. geesh!

    • @Roggor
      @Roggor Před 16 dny +2

      ​@@tjjones621 True. Someone may have absolutely aced maths and science in school but if they don't need to use that knowledge in day to day life they WILL forget it.
      Not because they're stupid but because they're human.

    • @Phynastor
      @Phynastor Před 10 dny

      I pulled out a notepad and tried to name as many as I could. I did get to 20, but it took me a lot longer than I thought it would.

  • @tjjones621
    @tjjones621 Před 28 dny +1

    $10,003 FlatAfrica flight chart reward. 32 flat paper flight charts cover Africa. First person with a roll of tape wins! I added $3 to cover the cost.

  • @NoTimeAllTime
    @NoTimeAllTime Před měsícem +54

    I like the conspiracy that flat earth is in fact a conspiracy to discredit other conspiracies

    • @effthree7227
      @effthree7227 Před měsícem +13

      that's exactly what it is, and it worked

    • @EeveeRealSenpai
      @EeveeRealSenpai Před měsícem +4

      I don't think relating two totally different conspiracies is a good way to _seriously_ go about things.

    • @D3adCl0wn
      @D3adCl0wn Před měsícem

      When there are ACTUAL conspiracies that has to be revealed, junk ones like flat-earth make me think of it as a DOUBLE conspiracy (like a cover up kind to lure you away from real damaging conspiracies). Which is ironic since the meat of it points to a distrust in authority which, let's be real here, doesn't need flat-earth to start with.

    • @lucasbastosrodrigues140
      @lucasbastosrodrigues140 Před měsícem

      Seems much like this. there is a lot of true facts that people are mixing btween some crazy stuff....
      We know that some big indutrial corps pay some idiots to protest againts the pollution and climate change in very dumb ways.
      Tha was to make people get a bad opnion about the topic and don't listen when someome say about it. soo is very likely i think is a tatic some powerfull dudes are using and is working very weell.
      The sky is blue so that is why the grass is red... and vo a lá people think the sky can't not be blue now!

    • @papalegba6796
      @papalegba6796 Před měsícem

      The flat earth scene is full of ex military reservists so yeah of course it's a psyop 🙄

  • @joejohnny9965
    @joejohnny9965 Před měsícem +93

    The best part about being a conspiracy theorist is not having myocarditis.
    -Round Earther

    • @user-ee2bd5vv2z
      @user-ee2bd5vv2z Před měsícem +2

      Facts.

    • @dan4500
      @dan4500 Před měsícem +3

      but science only took a picture of your heart, you didn't see the myocarditis for yourself... check and mate

    • @user-ee2bd5vv2z
      @user-ee2bd5vv2z Před měsícem +1

      @@dan4500 such a dumb response. Rather than taking a balanced approach and admitting that sometimes science gets it wrong and that we should always question it, you go straight to "well at least they get some things right so there is still no reason to use critical thinking". Check and mate.

    • @drenathor
      @drenathor Před měsícem +4

      @@user-ee2bd5vv2z I'm pretty sure @dan4500's response was a joke...

    • @dan4500
      @dan4500 Před měsícem +2

      @@user-ee2bd5vv2z you're right, critical thinking wasn't used here, check and mate also "whoosh"

  • @junechevalier
    @junechevalier Před 23 dny +2

    Flat earthers are the kind of people who would've believed the earth is a sphere, if the world had been flat. It doesn't matter what the truth is. They just want to be outliers

  • @user-hd7hr6ep8z
    @user-hd7hr6ep8z Před měsícem +2

    If th Earth was flat instagram would be filled with videos like someone is taking a piss from the edge of the world. Check mate flatearthers!

  • @Dripi_weta
    @Dripi_weta Před měsícem +44

    flatearth is wild.. BUT HAVE YOU HEARD OF "SPACE IS FAKE".....

    • @SkemeKOS
      @SkemeKOS Před měsícem +7

      Prove space, as is described by mainstream 'science' is real.
      Go!

    • @antmann993
      @antmann993 Před měsícem

      same thing bruh

    • @jetlag133
      @jetlag133 Před měsícem

      the only think that is flat is space

    • @RogHawk
      @RogHawk Před měsícem +5

      @@SkemeKOS See Dwayne Kellum's balloon flight videos showing the lack of pressure and atmosphere at height, as well as the curvature of the globe.

    • @effigy42
      @effigy42 Před měsícem

      @@jetlag133why can space be flat which is scientifically way more insane than earth being flat? Yet people blindly accept it because or school and tv…

  • @tomaO2
    @tomaO2 Před měsícem +30

    I met my first flat earther the last few months. Took me awhile to understand what she meant by a "dome" over the planet, and she keeps talking about how Elon Musk keeps sending rockets and it hits the dome but it doesn't get damaged by hitting the dome, but the important thing is that it's impossible to break through the dome. At least if you are using rockets, which aren't really well known for being super sturdy and capable of smashing through things, since making something sturdy adds weight. What about explosive missiles? She thinks that's a great idea and she wonders why no one ever thought about that, and I'm a genious for coming up with it.
    The moon isn't real. It's an image that a secret organization projects onto the wall of the dome, or "firmament" as she now calls it (changing language to make it sound less crazy). Where does the light come from? That's a great question. She doesn't know. Can we send scientists to study the dome? No it's too high, and people fall unconscious when they get near the dome. What about robots. No, no, no, the connection with the robots cuts off and so that doesn't work at all...
    She. Is. Insane. And she is constantly trying to convince me, and anyone else that will listen, of her whackjob conspires. She's also constantly getting sucked into any money making scheme. We got some magical stock market that you just need to give 200$ and they garuntee massive returns and it's funded by Elong Musk because he just wants the working man to make money. We got mobile games that if she could only pass level 2 would give her 10k. We got some sort of virtual earth where you can buy the virtual land and then you own the physical property, meaning you don't actually own your own home unless you buy the land on this game. It's just one thing after another.

    • @AndSaveAsManyAsYouCan
      @AndSaveAsManyAsYouCan Před měsícem +4

      Sadly, some people go so far down the rabbit hole that they get lost. Have you ever heard of the crazy / hot, bow chicka bow wow chart?

    • @nicholascampbell90
      @nicholascampbell90 Před měsícem +2

      It's the hot / crazy matrix 😂

    • @EeveeRealSenpai
      @EeveeRealSenpai Před měsícem +2

      Seems like you found an Asylum escapee

    • @tomaO2
      @tomaO2 Před měsícem

      @@AndSaveAsManyAsYouCan If she was hot, I be fine ignoring the crazy, because it's not a kind of crazy that I find either dangerous or offensive. It's just crazy conspricy anti-establishment nonsense.
      Oh, and she's not religous.

    • @francestaylor9156
      @francestaylor9156 Před měsícem +1

      It sounds like these people are stuck in the Truman Show.

  • @FixtIt
    @FixtIt Před 11 dny +1

    I bet there's some overlap with flat earthers and Holocaust deniers.

  • @Stevo.100
    @Stevo.100 Před měsícem +52

    Flat earthers: "The images you see of the round earth are computer generated"
    Flat earthers: "This is what the earth actually looks like, here I'll show you this drawing because that's all we have, no we don't have any actual real photographs of the flat earth, yes I'm allowed to have double standards"

    • @danielschmaderer
      @danielschmaderer Před měsícem +7

      @@Stevo.100 they also show their computer generated “proof” of how the sun and moon rotate around their map, which is also hilarious.

    • @Stevo.100
      @Stevo.100 Před měsícem +8

      @@danielschmaderer Yeah they really didn't think that one through, if the earth was flat you'd always be able to see the sun.

    • @danielschmaderer
      @danielschmaderer Před měsícem

      @@Stevo.100 they claim the sun gets further away and out of sight. If that were true and the sun were traveling around their version of a flat earth, size would charge as it goes further away during a sunset. Since it doesn’t, their theory goes in the trash at that point.

    • @TheIdiotChallenege
      @TheIdiotChallenege Před měsícem

      the funny thing is, no flat earther actually believes its a disc floating in space. only the ones debunking it think they do. flat earthers don't even think space exists. if they really want to convince flat earthers that the earth isn't flat they should probably debunk what they think it is, which is a flat plane under a dome, submerged in underwater, this is why they cannot produce pictures of earth from space because in their model, there is no space and nobody can get outside the dome.

    • @themurmeli88
      @themurmeli88 Před měsícem

      @@Stevo.100 Ah you see, that's because of draw distance!

  • @wicklander855
    @wicklander855 Před měsícem +11

    When the Dinosaurus flew off I laughed so hard I almost pissed myself.

    • @Zemlja_je_ravna
      @Zemlja_je_ravna Před měsícem

      Imagine how far they would fly if they got twisted by the Globe xD

  • @zyfryth
    @zyfryth Před 20 dny +3

    Watching this video with a master degree in Geodesy is painful. Why do ppl believe this shit in 2024...

  • @remieres
    @remieres Před 20 dny +2

    "keeps water from escaping" Escaping where? from falling off the edge of a disc? why would water fall off the disc if there's no such thing as GRAVITY.

  • @Nectazumor
    @Nectazumor Před měsícem +33

    Dayum, the amount people in the comments believing that the earth is flat or that the earth doesn't spin is scary... so those are the 80 IQ people, yikes.

    • @bl8388
      @bl8388 Před měsícem +13

      I'm seeing very few pro flat earth comments.

    • @Zemlja_je_ravna
      @Zemlja_je_ravna Před měsícem +4

      Yet all your opinions about it are based on the belief in the things someone else told you.

    • @Geometric3163
      @Geometric3163 Před měsícem +7

      He often has like 20k people watching him. 5% of that is still a thousand people.

    • @Elrog3
      @Elrog3 Před měsícem +8

      They will flock the these videos in larger numbers than they would if the video was about some other topic. But yeah, still scary.

    • @namnutar
      @namnutar Před měsícem +4

      Average Asmon viewer

  • @taik_5
    @taik_5 Před měsícem +22

    It's funny that there's a snippet under the video declaring the falsehood of flat earth, but you go to any video talking about transgenderism, and suddenly that's alllll facts.

    • @AndSaveAsManyAsYouCan
      @AndSaveAsManyAsYouCan Před měsícem +4

      BINGO!!! Just like my body, my choice. Oh wait, unless you don't want to be forced into ingesting something forcibly, or be conscripted into "bankers conflicts," etc.

  • @jethro502
    @jethro502 Před 17 dny +1

    A key part of the why is missing. Sure its not trusting authority, however its also narcissism. They believe they have the knowledge. No-one else knows this big secret, only them. Everyone else is blind, they have their eyes open. It gives a huge ego boost and they cant give it up if faced with evidence, because their worlds would collapse around them.

  • @Jingleschmiede
    @Jingleschmiede Před 25 dny +2

    At the moment, I cannot decide what the most stupid statement is: "The earth is flat." or "Trump is the new messiah." .

  • @Marinanor
    @Marinanor Před měsícem +26

    The atmosphere of Earth is not carbonated.
    So technically it IS flat.

  • @arthurfhackingshelby9631
    @arthurfhackingshelby9631 Před měsícem +270

    most flat earther are from america

    • @mina_loi
      @mina_loi Před měsícem +35

      the other majority is united arab emirates.

    • @myhigherpower9112
      @myhigherpower9112 Před měsícem +17

      aka MAGA

    • @SilverSidedSquirrel
      @SilverSidedSquirrel Před měsícem +7

      or are religious

    • @tuongpham7609
      @tuongpham7609 Před měsícem +12

      To be fair, most of them did come from Europe.

    • @pluralizor2957
      @pluralizor2957 Před měsícem +37

      OK so I'm In A rather large debate server and flat earths a big one, this isnt accurate, it's people from alllll over, you'd be shocked

  • @robertfreestone414
    @robertfreestone414 Před 10 dny +1

    Very well articulated analogy why conspiratoriats are so ridiculously stubborn.
    In fact, I've always considered globe vs. flatearth debates to be science-themed interventions than an actual debate about something that requires any amount of sincere scrutiny. For example, an Oswald vs. Cube debate regarding the Kennedy assassination is a legitimate debate, but something that's been understood for 2,500 years? Nah.