The Best Camera for $1000! Panasonic G9 in-depth review
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- čas přidán 10. 04. 2020
- We dive in deep with the Panasonic G9 to explain why it is the best camera for $1000 right now!
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Thank you Mohammad, very nice video showing the camera features and explaining your thoughts on it.
Very comprehensive review with excellent production. This is the kind of cornerstone quality content that can build up a channel. Nice work.
Thank you sir!
I bought this camera when it first came out and love it. Thanks for this wonderful and informative video.
You produced a very professional and informative review. Thank you!
Thank you for watching!
Fantastic summary, i recently upgraded to the g9 from the g7 & i love it.
Thanks for sharing
I had a G7 before. Two, actually. While great cameras for their time, the G9 is just on another level!
This was a really nice review I enjoyed it
Waiting for this to go on sale again. It was 997 body only (USA)
Oh I love my G9 ! Absolutely my favorite camera ! Love everything about it ! It is by far the best camera right now, no camera at its price point, lower or a little bit higher does what the G9 does
Great review man. I've been using the Lumix G85 for video and photography over the past year and a half. Looking to upgrade to the G9 for photos and keep the G85 for video. Thanks for the video!
Thank you for watching!
Great review!
Hi, I just found your channel, Great stuff. I come from a broadcast tv and film lighting background and I’m currently looking to buy a small shooting kit for making videos for webinar clients and tutorial videos. Your reviews and comparisons have been so helpful. thank you .
Hi Simon! Thank you for watching and I appreciate the positive feedback!
Thank very much again. In this video test which camera setting and luts and lens used
I bought mine used but in mint condition for a bit more than 700€. It is a feature packed camera and therefore it takes some time to dive into the menus.
Yes, I too Love My G9, I bought mine in 2018. Now with the 2.4 Ver. Firmware and programs like DXO PureRAW, OMG THE SHOTS to me look mike FF.
DXO removes the noise and sharpes and removes distortion, IT's CRAZY GOOD < YEAH!
Well done- I love mine (two)
I can't wait to but the Panasonic Lumix GH5s, myself. I am saving for it and some lens' and I will have it in the next few weeks, and can't wait!
I've been very keen on getting a GH5S myself!
As a G7 user and hybrid shooter, I want to upgrade to G9 or GH5. Thanks for the explanation about this, and I prefer to G9 for now
I updated from G7 and I must say I love the G9. I am still learning about it but loving it.
Just bought that camera. And after latest update, its freaking good for filming.
It's terrific!
How do you find the time limit restrictions for filming?
@@legniak1 I don't shoot a lot of events, and when I do, I use my GH5 as my wide main shot, and use the G9 as the close-up cam. So, I've never been bothered by the time-limit. Also, you can always quickly stop, and then start recording again whenever there's a short breather. No one talks for 1 hour straight. 😊
@@FabledFew Is it safe to assume external recording would bypass the 30min limit?
@@professionalpotato4764 yes. recorders will not have a recording time limit on any camera.
great video on this camera. 👍
Hi great one, If you must choose between G9 and GH5 want would you recommend as a hybrid camera. As a vlog/film and b-roll camera
Great video!
Good and informative review. I recently ordered the Lumix G90 and am curious. After seeing your review, I'm also curious if I made the right choice.
The G90 is a good camera for most applications, and it’s a lot cheaper than the G9.
Spot on! I've had my G9 for about a year and it's the best overall camera I've ever used. I shoot a lot of nature/wildlife and the Leica 100-400 (200-800mm FF eq) is phenomenal with the G9. Even an APC-C-compatible lens of close to that reach would be much larger/heavier (and forget about FF!). Also, with that lens, the dual IS gives you 6.5 stops--no tripod necessary unless you want shoot a super-long exposure or 80MP. Try that with FF...if you need more then maybe you drink too much! My G9 with battery grip (a must-have, as far as I'm concerned--it improves the already great ergonomics, especially with that "big" lens), Leica 8-18mm, Zhongyi 25 f/0.95, and Lumix GX 35-100 f/2.8 (multiply all of those FLs x2) plus spare batteries, flash gun, softbox, and other misc. stuff, plus an Olympus TG-5, all fits in a tiny pack and weighs
The "Full-Frame" hype is massive right now. Even people who don't know anything about photography have heard of "full-frame" and will dismiss any camera that isn't FF. It's ridiculous, if you ask me.
completely agree. the most fun functional cost effective camera and bang for buck lens to let you try new things. its got a bit label on it that says use me. now getting into the setting up different camera profiles for different jobs...something I could never be bother to do. firmware 2.0 was a welcome bonus and improvements of real value. as for the viewfinder on the g9.
Yep--may people are wasting their money and giving themselves back aches with FF, plus here's another MFT advantage: minimum focusing distance. Even the long Leica at 800mm "FF eq" can focus down to 1.3m/4.3' (compare that to more like 6m for a FF 800mm) which gives you the ability to practically shoot macros from a distance that won't spook a lot of subjects (plus it makes it a lot safer to shoot some potentially dangerous subjects)! Of course, the Olympus TG-5 (1/2.3") can shoot down to 1cm, plus it has several "microscope" modes and is submersible to 15m (but it only goes out to 100mm).
From content to production, this was a extremely well done video! One question, you mentioned providing out of camera jpgs to your clients. Is this something they ask for or something you've just done without telling them? Curious, because I believe with the new technology among all brands, knowing how to properly expose a photo in camera, is all you really need to do. I'm starting to think the need for raw is more of an archaic hold-over from what are now the old days, lol.
Much appreciated! My wife primarily shoots weddings/engagement parties, and those shoots can often yield more than 2000 photos! It's a heavy task to sit down and edit 2000 photos, especially when you have 2 or 3 clients per week, so we hand over all the JPEGs, and ask them to choose about 20-30 photos for a special edit. I agree, knowing you have to deliver the JPEGs with no post-processing makes you think differently about photography, it really makes you step up your game and make sure you're nailing the focus and exposure of each shot. There's no "I'll fix it in post" anymore!
Yes and then consider that Adobe does not understand the Panasonic and Olympus "Extended-RAW" files and makes a botch of converting them leaving you with more work. If the jpeg is no good the raw will be rubbish too. Edit the jpeg.
Silkypix converts better than Camera-RAW.
Me, I rarely bother the raw file and I delete them over a couple of years old, they take up too much space
Just picked one up with 700 shutter count for 670 USD, waiting for my 12-60 Leica to arrive. Next I'm thinking 100-400 for bird shooting and other wildlife. Your video's are very well done, keep it up, thanks.
That's a very good deal, congrats! 😊
Great review. I’ve left Canon and bought a G9 for wildlife and action. It was the right decision. This is a great, useable, high spec camera. I don’t need full frame. I’m not a portrait photographer...
I made the move several years ago, from a T3i to Panasonic G7. Haven't looked back since :)
I own the camera and like it's features especially since the 2019 firmware update. Its the only camera I know of that has a close focus capture for small songbird shots. I have programmed the lower front function button for that. Being able to customise each button is great. I also like the 6k photo stacking and high resolution capabilities for landscapes. However my experience is that it struggles with focus in low light, when I am photographing deer in woodland. For instances like that, I use an old Olympus EM1 which has hybrid contrast/phase autofocus. I use it with an Olympus 50 - 200 f2.8 - 3.5 from the old 4/3 system using an adapter. Focus is slower but reliable and adequate plus the lens is acceptably sharp wide open. It won't work with the G9 unfortunately
Focus in lowlight is very lens-dependant, I've found. Usually faster lenses are okay, but slower lenses, especially zooms, struggle.
i mainly shoot portraits
i currently own a GH5 and a GX9, have a couple of nice m43 lenses like the
42.5 1.7/1.2, Olympus 12-40 2.8, 7-14 2.8 75mm 1.8 15mm 1.7
i've been thinking of getting a G9 as anotehr cam, since i actually mostly shoot stills... is there also a 1080p 10bit 60fps mode for it?
is the image quality for photos also a bit better in the g9?
Yes, it does shoot 1080p60 at 10bit 422! The sensor is the same as the one in GH5, however, the color science is different, and I think they're really spectacular. One other thing to note is that the G9 has a noticeably faster auto-focus system.
I recently bought this camera. Love it so far. Goodbye full frame.
6:15 the music choice is superb. It goes so well with the monochrome D color, the following footages, and the SFX. Although I cannot understand what the lyrics are talking about, the piano and the vocal sound so emotional. Thanks for the great review!
Thanks a lot, appreciate the positive feedback!
The latest firmware adds a waveform monitor to the G9 too. Thought I would mention that as it sounded like it does not when you compared the video tools.
Thanks for sharing that piece of info!
@@FabledFew Thanks, but I saw people mentioned this already in your second video about the GH5/G9. I miss two things on the G9:
1: The ability to adjust the shutter angle. Not a major problem without it but would be nice to have.
2: Let the user to turn off the shutter button and only use it for auto focus while in video mode. The button is very sensitive but I have got used to it in stills mode. In video mode however it seems the button is even more sensitive so I always get dozens of short clips that has been recorded unintentionally. I have moved the auto focus to the rear button instead in video mode to solve this but it is a bit unintuitive. The fact that the shutter button still triggers video recording in video mode kind of defeats the purpose of the dedicated video record button.
Something else - if you set up the G9 just so it can shoot acceptably at ISO 16,000 or more. The trick is having some light and contrast, it can be dim but has to be the right kind of light. But it is not hit or miss. You need to look at the read noise of these sensors. Now we have less read noise at ISO 12,800 than ISO 6400 it becomes doable. We do loose dynamic range but we can push the gain curve. The default noise reduction is often too aggressive and can cause artefacts, so it can be turned down a little. Sharpening, NR, Contrast, Saturation can be changed for each Photostyle. The blanket NR, iR, iD, can also be altered too. All of these are gain effects. Some of the gain effects are applied to the raw, the ISO certainly is. I find it best to set the camera up to take the best jpeg, the camera will do most of the work but default is not always right.
Great video, thanks! Maybe I choose the G9 instead of the GH5. I shoot mostly video but also want good photography. Which song did you use at 6:15?
Thank you for watching! That song is a cover of "Pare Me" by Notis Sfakianakis.
The cover is called "Dele Divooneh" by Shadmehr Aghili.
@@FabledFew Thank you very much for your very quick response!!
Amazing camera.Have shared some clips on my channel. great review. I have subscribed, and look forward to checking out your other videos.
Thank you for subscribing!
@@FabledFew Thank you. Loving your work!
G9 is the best hybrid camera. From landscaper, photoshoot, wildlife, sport and videographer in one camera body. Never seen an camera with that price tag can do that.
You make very nice videos about this camera. However I believe Olympus E-M1 III has better IS. But aside from that. What lenses did you use to shoot footage specifically from 7:13 to 7:33. Was it the Sigmas? I noticed some strange softness. Like chromatic aberration in out-of-focus areas or some kind of haze? Lowered contrast? Due to flaring?
Thank you! It was shot with the Sigma 18-35mm. Honestly, I don't see strange softness. The parts that were in focus seem very sharp to me. However, the wide shot of the jungles is bit a hazy, that's because of the fog that raised after a rainstorm the night before.
Great review and nice photos! I have the GX85 & G85 - both have the sensor & processor right before the G9. I would never consider giving clients out of camera jpegs with either of these, so I just shoot RAW only with those cameras and process in Lightroom - even for personal work. This is the first I’ve heard of new colour science with the G9 & its newer sensor & processor. Interesting. If it could shoot video over half an hour (for events) I would sell my G85 on and pick up a G9 at the current price. The G9 is a much better camera for sure. But for people recording events, the 30 minute time limit is a dealbreaker. Too bad.
I know what you mean. I had two G7(s) before the GH5 and G9, and I definitely did not give out any JPEGs then. Lots and lots of overnight editing. GH5 would be better for your needs, it seems, if you covee a lot of long events. You know, I really like the 709L profile in the GH5 for SOOC delivery, too! GH5 is the only camera that has the 709L picture profile, and its colors are really unique.
Mohammad Rezaie I am still in that overnight editing phase as I sometimes use my Pannys for stills! : ) But actually it’s much better now that Lightroom has implemented the Universal Plug In feature. A couple of months ago Mastin presets did not look very good with Panasonic files. But with somewhat recent changes in Lightroom’s preset engine and Mastin adopting the Universal preset standard I can - unbelievably to me - get great skin tones on GX85 & G85 files in just a couple of clicks! Before these changes I never would have used the Panasonic cameras I have for a stills portrait shoot, but now I can and they look really good. I imagine with your G9 the results would be even better.
If you really want to use the G9 as your video camera for longer record times get an external monitor/recorder there are no time limits thru HDMI.
I have a GH5 and a G9. If I am going to be doing mostly photography then I choose the G9 and for Video the GH5 and that’s where their strengths lie however, the G9 is a very capable B Cam (especially now I added Vlog) and the GH5 can still manage good photos!
We, too, use the G9 for our stills work, and GH5 for our video work. Both are wonderful cameras. Thanks for watching!
Excellent review. I'm still on the fence between G9 and GH5 🤔
Gh5 for mainly video. G9 for mainly stills. Both are built to a different strength but equally good.
Great video
Is it still worth buying in 2021?
For landscape photography
Thank you! I believe so, yes. The high-res mode is still one of the best implementation of that feature in any camera system, and is great for landscape photography.
@@FabledFew
What is the best budget wide angle lens for the G9?
Hello! I'm from Brazil, and I work with social events, and I have a question for you, this camera turns off automatically after 30 minutes of recording videos or photos. My question is: How long can I turn the camera on again? The camera will record from the point where it stops. And lastly, this camera isn't ideal for those who work with videos. What do you think?
Do I really need the all i 400mbps? For color grading and good image quality? How is the g9 compared to the gh5 when shooting photos ? Is the g9 better or are both the same since the sensor is identical ?
400mbps mostly helps with smoother editing, and better image quality in shots where there is a lot of action/movement. In photography, their IQ is identical, however G9 is a much faster operating and autofocusing camera. GH5 is 3 years old, so it feels a bit sluggish in 2020.
Mohammad Rezaie thanks very much. To me the most important things is that the colors won’t get bad when color grading 150 mbps with the g9. Can I use the same LUTs used for gh5 also? Or will there be a big difference in colors? Also the g9 has vlog-L the gh5 has normal vlog what’s the difference? Thank u so much Mohammad. Much love
@@oneandonlyjoker8903 Unless you are seriously pushing the image there probably won't be a big difference in what you get out of them. The g9 quality is already very good. The gh5 is better....but doubt it's really noticeable in the end output.
I have the same model Helios lens.
Your photos are beautiful, and the black and white footage in the rain was stunning. Great camera but it's only as good as the guy behind it.
Thank you very much for the kind words!
Is the mic jack suitable for a lav microphone?
Sure, I have attached lavs directly to the camera many times.
I upgraded from a GX8 to the G9 and paid a premium as an early adopter... learn my lesson not to do it again. But at the current price of USD1000 it's worth buying. It's packed full of nice features and great for travel.
But to be fair, m4/3 isn't suitable for astrophotography such as milky way shots... especially if you want to blow up your prints.
m4/3 is only really good for daylight shoots, when light goes down, they really suffer in image quality. Even with a fast lens at low ISOs, the shadows are still a bit too noisy.
The biggest del breaker for me is its auto focus, do you think it's good for light vlogging and with the 2x crop what's a good lens for vlogging
I think the autofocus is better than people give it credit for. Check out my Autofocus test video, there's part in there where I test it with a native lens for video, and it does quite well! I think something like the 12-35mm f/2.8 is a good lens for vlogging.
Thanks and what's the crop factor on the 12mm when in 4k? Is it changed to 24mm with the crop factor?
@@FabledFew which video had the auto focus, because the speed boost one showed pretty unuseable auto focus
@@Provolt same video. Near the end I show the autofocus performance when a native lens is used.
@@Provolt it would be 24mm, yes. There is no additional crop in 4k.
Cons - that wretched hair trigger shutter, what were they thinking? The top panel LCD, a waste of space, all the info needed is on the monitor.
Whilst the G9 is professional I am not so sure the rest of the G-series sits below the GX, the G7 is certainly as capable as the "enthusiast" level E-M5ii.
The GH4 still buffers and stores quicker than the G9, and uses less of the same battery, but is showing its age in image quality now.
The back of the G9, the sensor, gets hot shooting video - the GH4 is one big heat sink. This does restrict how long the G9 can shoot continuous video. You cannot shoot for hours like the GH4 can. There again the G9 is not a videography camera.
Hey Mohammad, do you think it is the best even now? I'm thinking about buying one.
If you want pure stills image quality, I would say get the Canon RP. However, for hybrid video/photo shooting, the G9 is still a very strong contender.
@@FabledFew hehe RP is almost 2x price :/ i'm mainly traveler + wildlife photographer
The RP is just $1000 though. or $1300 with the kit lens, on B&H. Have you checked?
@@FabledFew ah ok, as i can see. but still it's full-frame. For traveling + wildlife i need 4/3.
@@martinkremercz Take a look at the EM1 Mark iii from Olympus. It has bird detection autofocus, which would be very useful for wildlife. It's in the same ballpark as the G9 in terms of price.
Отличная камера!!!!!
I have a G7. should I get a G9, or wait for a G10?
I don't think a successor to the G9 is coming anytime soon.
İnceleme çekimlerinin İstanbul Türkiye'de yapılmış olması ayrı bir güzellik katmış :)
İstanbul gerçekten güzel bir şehir.
@@FabledFew , İstanbul'u sevmiş olmanız ne güzel... Sanıyorum İranlısınız... Ben de iki kez İran'a geldim ve gezdim... Üçüncü bir geziyi yine isterim çünkü İran çok güzeldi... Tebriz, Tahran, Şiraz, Yazd, İsfahan, Kashan...
@@FabledFew Bu arada ben de Panasonic GX7 ve GX8 kullanıyorum... İkisi de çok güzel...
@@aytackurtuba Teşekkür ederim! Evet, ben İranlıyım. Türkçem iyi değil, bu yüzden bana yardım etmek için Google Çeviri kullanıyorum. İran'da olduğunuzu bildiğiniz için memnunum! Tanıştığıma memnun oldum! Ve evet, GX8 harika bir kamera.
@@FabledFew yanıtlarınız için sağ olun... Dediğim gibi İran'ı ve İranlıları çok sevdim... Size çalışmalarınızda başarılar diliyorum...
Unfortunately the video record limit, average low light capability and not so good SDF makes it much less attractive.
There is one small detail I don't like about it... For many trips I have used a G80/G81/G85 for stills and video. When I walk around, I just put the camera in auto mode and I can quickly decide to take a photo or a video without messing around with settings. 99,9% comes out right. On the G9 the buttons are too far apart. You need to change the grip on the camera. And yes, I know, I know, I know, you should film in manual mode and I do that too with 50 kg of extra gear and a hernia :-) Just like you I shoot jpg because they are good enough. Just print them out and hang them on the wall.
I've never looked at it that way, thanks for sharing!
@@FabledFew I forgot to mention, this is a great video about the G9 camera, one of the best I have seen so far!
@@TuinleiBob Much appreciated sir!
Does anyone know the intro song? :)
saints row music!
@@ezekielfernandez4077 hell yeah it is!
beutiful music
Your cam is set fixed focus, which means that when you hold the cam, your video is out of focus. Somewhat lax... :(
I wish it was still $1000
I hesitate between G9 and Em1 Mark 3 :(
Do you need good video? Then go with G9. Do you need more reliable autofocus? Then go with EM1m3.
@@FabledFew 4K Cine at 30fps (bitrates 234mbts) with Olympus is better than 4k30fps 10bits at 125mbts with g9 ?
@@romainprovost7164 No. One, Olympus uses variable bitrate, which depending on the scene, can either ruin your shot or work wonders, however, having that uncertainty is not welcome, I would rather have a fixed bitrate. Second, The G9 is 150mbps at 10bit color depth, The Olympus is 8bit. Once you've worked with a 10bit camera, you will really struggle to shoot 8bit again.
@@romainprovost7164 Also, the G9 shoots 4K at 60fps. If you need slow-motion footage, it's the way to go.
Possibly the best camera for $ 1000 is the canon 90d?
I would say it's better for photography, but not for video.
who is singing
It's Shadmehr Aghili - the track's name is "Dele Divooneh"
It's $1,266 in my country, Indonesia. :(
Why so expensive?
Try e-infin.com 😉
New sub! Great video about the G9. I absolutely love the G9 and just shot my first music video with my daughters completely using the G9. Check it out if you get a moment. Blessings!
Thank you for subbing! I did watch your daughter's music video, great job! Really liked those indoor shots!
For video, yes. For photography, no!
“Somewhere where you don’t want to attract the attention of an animal with the shutter sound” - ok, got it for the sports photography, now what about the wildlife?
Very nice sequence near the end. Well done. Good luck with your new channel !
For not scaring off birds, or deers. Any animal that might be sensitive to foreign sound to their ears.
@@reginaldworthington7558 thank you sir! Much appreciated!
Mohammad Rezaie it was a joke - not a question. Guess it flew over your head. :)
@@reginaldworthington7558 Just like a bird would if the buttons were loud. 😂
i got one of these for like 500 bucks from some dude just unloading a bunch of crap. image quality is amazing! go check out my videos on my channel to see those sweet, sweet 4k frames.
Damn, that is quite the bargain!
8:57 ... dude, I have both, Olympus and Panasonic and going straight forward saying the G9 has the best stabilization in M4/3 is bullshit, even if you work for Panasonic... v__v
Stabilization with wide angle lenses is full of warpiness at the edge of the frame: this camera barely keeps pace with the EM1MkII (which is older) even with dual stabilization in lens and Olympus has no issue at all stabilizing wide angle lenses even on older cameras. I didn't even mention the EM1 MKIII is in another ballpark stabilization wise, but nowadays is 1 and a half the price of the G9.
I like the camera and has a lot of strengths, but when you come out and blatantly put out false informations like these you are not doing a good service to your audience.
I disagree. The Olympus' all have that warp distortion feeling while shooting video, regardless of the focal length, maybe except for EM1X (which is 3 times the price of the G9). The G9 does have better IBIS performance while shooting video. Your opinion does not mean I am "blatantly putting out false information". Thank you for watching.
@@FabledFew they does NOT have distortions and warpines, or, at least, way, way less then Panasonic does currently. You clearly have no experience with them or you would know tha the Em1 MKIII is way better then the Em1X in stabilization and a 2/3 of the price. The 1000€ EM1MKII is just behind but certainly better then the G9 which has advantages I admit, with long focal (above 100mm) because in lens stabilization is more common in Panasonic range. This being told, Panasonic which certainly is better then Sony of Fuji in stabilization has still a long way to go before even being equal to Olympus, which has YEARS of advantages. The problem is that if you don't try and test the difference (with an umbiased mind), and I doubt you ever tied shooting Olympus seriously, you are gust acting like a PR for the brand
@@Leptospirosi Wow!
@@Leptospirosi So true man !
1200 dollars today which makes it less much appealing unfortunately.