Crisis Pregnancy Centers: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
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- Crisis pregnancy centers deceptively steer women away from abortion. They can be started way too easily by religious groups like, for instance, a late night talk show’s megachurch.
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"She stays on the table until she wants the baby." I've never wanted to punch an old woman in the face until now!
Samuel J. Robinson punch? Nah use a cage match Samuel vs granny fight to the death with chairs plants and even a nuke
And even crazier props like flying gorillas
Strike, scream and run
Samuel J. Robinson
old? What are you: 12?
It puts the lotion on it's skin, or else it gets the hose again.
Are people gonna be forced to stay on the table if they don't want to continue the pregnancy?
The person who lied to that woman about how long she can wait before getting an abortion should be legally forced to pay for raising that child.
Shadow Heart yeah, if only someone told the woman hat was BS
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That person should be arrested. As far as I’m concerned they should face similar charges to impersonating healthcare providers or licensed physicians.
100% agree, and I really dislike abortion. I think it's probably a choice made too quickly, but fuck these cpcs and their deceptive ass marketing.
They should face more than that. What if that child has medical issues because mom was using and didn't terminate the pregnancy based on their information?!
So I’d like to tell my personal story about PCPs.
When I was 16 I unexpectedly got pregnant. I lived in a very rural town in the Midwest, which meant there was no access to Planned Parenthood or any place where I could get real information. My parents told me they would kick me out of the house if it ever happened so I was afraid to talk to them. Most actual healthcare facilities wouldn’t take me without a guardian because I wasn’t old enough to legally sign my paperwork.
There was, however, a building in town with a large sign outside offering free ultrasounds. When I looked them up they also claimed to offer free prenatal care, free baby furniture, clothes, diapers, etc. at the time I wasn’t sure whether I wanted to keep the pregnancy or not, but I was with a partner that supported me and I would’ve considered it. By the time I wound up going there I’d pretty much made up my mind that I was far enough in that I was going to keep it.
So I went in and they asked me all kinds of really personal questions that made me very uncomfortable. They asked me for my full name, the names of my partner and my parents, they asked where I lived, where I went to school, where I worked, where my parents worked, where my partner lived.... I found out later that they weren’t required to keep any of that confidential, so if I’d gone elsewhere and terminated the pregnancy they could’ve shown up at my work or my school or my home and harassed me for it. They finish the questionnaire by asking “How would you feel knowing that God wants to help you?” And I almost had to keep myself from laughing, like ‘I feel a lot better if you wanted to help me’.
After all these really uncomfortable questions were done they took me back and ran a drug store pregnancy test, basically the same type that I took at home. It came back positive but they informed me that their ultrasound tech was not in that day, and only was in during a time that I was at school; So basically if I wanted the free ultrasound that they offered specifically to teenage mothers I would have to skip class and try to not get caught.
So one morning I did exactly that. I skipped class and tried to get back before they noticed I was gone. I went in, and before the ultrasound started they asked me how far in I was. I told them I was about three months in. They informed me that I would not be getting an ultrasound that day, because I was past their cut off. What they meant by that was that I was past the cut off for an abortion in the state that I lived in. So, even though I had already decided to keep the pregnancy and I needed medical help they turned me away because they couldn’t persuade me out of getting an abortion. They just didn’t care at that point.
The whole reason why I wanted an ultrasound was because I was worried, I haven’t had any medical check ups during my pregnancy. I was worried there might be issues, that something might go wrong. They told me that everything was definitely fine and that my body was made to have a baby.
Turns out I actually have a hemorrhaging issue that we didn’t know about before, and that I have a hereditary abnormality that makes it hard for me to carry pregnancies. Had I gone to an actual clinic they would’ve been able to tell me that after getting an ultrasound, they would’ve been able to prepare me for the risks and monitor me if not out right said that my pregnancy was too dangerous. Instead I found out about seven months in when I suddenly started pouring blood. I had no access to a doctor. I was home alone. No one knew there was any risk with me so no one was keeping an eye on me. I bled so much I went into shock and almost died. I gave birth to a stillborn, very premature, alone at home.
The whole experience would’ve been really traumatizing even if I’d been older or been prepared for it. Even now, almost a decade later, I still have psychological issues because of it that I’m working through. It’s left a scar on me that’s going to take a long time to recover from, if I ever recover from it. And all of this could’ve been avoided if I’d had access to an actual clinic like Planned Parenthood.
I’m genuinely disgusted by these PCPs and what they do to women.
"They just didn’t care at that point" is the prefect resume.
All they wanted was to control you, to make that choice in your place.
None of that happens with Planned Parenthood.
Thank you for sharing your very personal story. As a healthcare professional, it makes me realize further the real harm such clinics can do.
Thank you for sharing your very personal story. As a healthcare professional, it makes me realize further the real harm such clinics can do.
I now understand why people go nuts burn churches.
I'm so sorry something so horrifying happened to you
Inpersonate a cop to take someone's $50 for a fake speeding ticket? You are going to prison for 10 years.
Inperaonate a doctor and ruin countless women's lives? You get a tax break for religious reasons.
These people are insane
Lol , preventing murder is considered " ruining women's life " now ?
@@idenree8606 for someone to be murdered, they have to be a living creature and to be living, they have to be born. Unborn can not be murdered.
@@stanojevicnatasa2514 what are you talking about ?
They are a living creature , they have a a functioning heart and a brain and every other organ an adult human have , they can feel pain and emotions and recognize their mother's voice , just because they didn't come out of the womb doesn't mean that they are not alive , you moron, you just pulled the definition of being alive out of your own head and treated it as a fact .
@@idenree8606 to me it is that way, I don't think unborn can or should have any rights above already born. If one doesn't want to be a mother, she should not be. Like, I don't support getting an abortion 2 days before birth, but pro life people care about saving too many damn lives on this overly populated planet. We don't need more babies and it is probably good idea at this point in time not to force them on unviling people who possibly have good reasons not to want kids. We should entirely abandon that "sanctity of life" crap and focus on saving those who contribute to society. I support death penalty for a wide variety of crimes, from serial rape to extreme cruelty against animals, I support pulling the plug on brain dead patients, abortion and all kinds of permanent contraception, medically assisted suicide.... We should not force more people on this poor environment anyway...
How it isn't illegal in the US to impersonate a medical facility and trick people into thinking you have any medical knowledge or training is beyond me.
They don’t, picking the most extreme ones make it seem like one.
@@willcstgd is lying, in case anyone read his claim and was tempted to believe him.
James Endicott No.
There is a very very very thin line between trickery and fraud. If they actually claimed to have medical credentials they don't have, that would be fraud.
@@tifforo1, however buying the staff nurse or doctor costumes to wear, lining shelves with medical books, using latex gloves, and performing ultrasounds are all apparently ok because they are merely deceptive instead of fraud or malpractice.
The level of pretending to be an actual medical center is disgusting.
My mom sells eyeglasses and she has to follow HIPPA laws, how the fuck does a 'clinic' not have to do the same
they are most likely not selling anything or officially giving you medical services.. probably covered under the 1st amendment.. they go right up to the line of what they can say and where they can be.. we need better education to solve this not banning things
I've been to one. I don't think they performed many services there. If I recall correctly, she took an at-home pregnancy test and they talked to her about Jesus. Then we left.
Sean Dillon dude I work at CVS and I have to follow HIPAA laws. This makes no sense how they can influence medical decisions without regulation
Because we have basically no consumer protection laws in the U.S. other that the absolute bare minimum of "your product can't actively kill people, oh wait, yes it can but we will make an exception just these first 1652 times."
+teamSAF bmx I think a capable lawyer can still make this into a class-action suit of some kind. Since they are providing medical "advise" without a license & as long as damage is provable, it should be doable.
"jelly on the belly" is just an awesome ad for pulling out
Thank you for this comment
Bruh STFU 😭😂😂😂
This is gold.
Wow I hate this. I'm stealing this.
@@felixbeckmann6459 yeah whenever is good for you6
Barbara: "Mother's are designed to die for their babies, not for their babies to die for them."
Me: "Let me introduce you to several animal species, the mothers of which will abandon or eat their own young in lean times. Just to start with."
Oh these people couldn't care less about you eating your own baby after giving birth to it. The point is that you give birth to it, so they can check if the baby is born with a halo. They probably think Jesus hasn't returned yet because every time he tries he gets aborted.
Wouldn't their all-powerful all-knowing god know which woman would or wouldn't abort though?
We aren't animals.
@@rebeccajennings1316 yeah we kinda are, as in literall definition we are. But especially, if your argument relies on "we are designed to do x," we definitely can be compared to animals. That is argumentation based on basic biology.
@@rebeccajennings1316 Well, not metaphorically, but biologically of course we are animals. Our cells are eukaryotic, we consist of multiple cells, we have the ability to move, we can't do photosynthesis - what other kingdom would apply? The plant kingdom? Fungi? We can be classified even further into mammals, given that we produce milk to feed our children.
I’ve been in one of these. They stated online that they did abortions. They stated over the phone that they did abortions. My husband and I went and got some papers we had to fill out. At the bottom under a lot of text, I was supposed to sign. In that text: they don’t do abortions. I got up and handed them back an unfinished packet and told them I had to go. I came under the impression that they did abortions, which they did not. “Oh well we should just take you back to make sure” The two pregnancy tests were pretty convincing. So was the blood test from the hospital a week later with the news that I was five weeks. “Can’t we talk about this” We didn’t. “Let’s just talk about your options”. Three older women kept just repeating that over and over at me. I was raised not to walk away from a conversation. By the end of it, I had to finally tell them that I had to. There wasn’t a choice in it. We can’t afford a kid. We can hardly afford to care for ourselves, and only one of us even has health insurance. I was having an emotional breakdown because of their badgering. They shut up, and we left. I hated that place. I still do, honestly.
Edit: Thank you, everyone, for being so supportive! I really appreciate it, you have no idea! Thank you so so much! ❤️
Aaliyah Marie words from a guy with a million miles between him and this issue won't help one iota, but this guy still wants to say he's sorry for the shit that you went through, and wishes you luck in your future family planning endeavors.
I'm really sorry you have to go through that. That is awful.
You should bill them for your wasted time then sue in small claims court.
And at the very least they wasted your time, so win-win for them. They make me sick.
TheFisheyman42 To be clear, I have yet to have the abortion that I really do need. There’s no need to be messed up tho. Just because I’m getting an abortion, doesn’t mean I’m happy about it. I could’ve been a mother. I could’ve been raising a child with the man I love. But I can’t.
Barbara Beavers has the kind of condescending voice you would expect from a cartoon villain.
I winder why this sort of conservative woman has that attitude
No wonder J.K. Rowling never included Sex Ed in Hogwarts.
1) You just know that McGonagall would have the students spend a month as the opposite sex for experience, and she couldn't have that!
2) Dolores Umbrage would clearly be the Barbara Beavers of the wizarding world.
Indeed
She really did seem live a tv villain lmao especially that laugh
She's so...punchable.
that awkward moment when people care more about an unborn fetus than the millions of kids in foster homes and orphanages across the US......
not to mention all the kids who aren't white, abled, cishet Americans... they don't even care about their fetuses most of the time
Oh yeah, it only matters as long as it has the potential to deprive a woman of her bodily autonomy. After birth it’s just another poor kid who’s clearly just not working enough, just look at him, he’s five and he doesn’t have a job yet!
They don't want other peoples mistakes er uhhh kids. they want their own blood children. Just stating facts. nobody gives a fuck about orphans except people that can't have kids of their own. prove me wrong.
@@weskirkland5850 facts
Millions? lol. Most kids in foster care are NOT up for adoption (e.g. they are waiting to be reunited with family)
I don't see pro-choicers lining up to adopt....
By using foster care as the reason abortion is necessary, you are telling millions of people who were conceived in, or have overcome these circumstances, that their life is not valuable. Our worth as humans isn’t conditional, it’s inherent..
Years ago I was pregnant but due to high stress issues my baby stopped growing. I was told if I didn’t terminate via an operation that I would miscarry eventually and could die along with my baby. At that exact time the gov’t was trying to pass a law that would prohibit me from doing so because she had a heartbeat. They were willing to let me die just because my baby had a heartbeat although she would never make it to term. No lady, no one, no female at all takes abortion lightly. It’s a deeply personal decision regardless of what stage you are in. It’s ok if you are pro-life but I don’t think most people who are, specifically men, truly understand the countless layers of why women make these incredibly deep life changing decisions. If you’re so pro-life you should be pro-birth control and pro-paid family leave. How do you take a women’s choices away and then leave her helpless to care for her child? That same woman will end up on govt assistance and conservatives will call her a leech, the same ones who refused to let her terminate. I just don’t understand it.
Abortion should be legal if the parent's life is in danger or if the child won't survive anyway. Though if you're financially incapable of caring for the child, you can always place them up for adoption.
@@spongeintheshoe What about hospital bills? Prenatal care? What about postpartum? What about the social stigma? Your body post-birth? The chance of a woman dying in labor? You can't cherry pick the reality of carrying a baby to term. The American foster system is completely broken, the child may never grown up with an adopted family. I think everyone deserves access to abortion because it's their body, if a woman chooses to carry the baby to term that's great. If they choose to get an abortion, that's also fine.
@@Myawesomeguineapig If the system is broken, then it needs to be fixed.
@Elizabeth Frantes Why don't _you_ fix it instead of using it to argue in favor of depriving other humans of their lives?
So castrating men for the betterment of society is depriving them of their lives, but forcing a teenage girl to become a mother is just a necessary burden?
Barbara Beavers reminds me way too much of Dolores Umbridge. Way too much.
I suspect Dolores Umbridge was based in part on Phyllis Schlafly, who is one of the major archetypes people like Beavers pull from.
Same. Let's just say listening to her bullshit made me quite uncomfortable.
Oh my god, yes!
It's the weird eye twitches and the old lady face while saying awful things with a smile. Just look at her saying women should die for their babies. She looks like it's the happiest thing she's ever said.
ChrisMorray lol ikr
Its like she's turned on from their pain like wth?
Even if condoms had a 20% failure rate that means they have a 80% sucess rate. And this is a fact 80% effective is better than 0% effective.
in fact: it's *infinitely* better.
They're just using the uncertainty as an excuse to try and get people not to have sex before marriage while saying a condom can still be used within marriage. But lying is such a dumb way to convince people when the better argument is that sex is a whole lot better when you're married (I mean it feels better cause you love that person, and you're not taking any risks whatsoever cause.. der you're married). these people who call themselves 'christians' literally forgot the whole 'lying is a sin' and "Jesus ate with tax collectors' part and are just going full rambo Control Hate mode.
@@mikotomisaka8714 it's a classic right-wing technique - first underfund education so the populace aren't able to understand percentages/fractions, then use p/f to scare them into voting for policies which will harm them.
@@ruaraidh74 ad-hominem is an argument against *a person* rather than a position. my argument addresses a standard approach of the political right: underfund education (or ofc hamstring it with pointless rules like teaching creationism) & then profit from the ignorance an uneducated populace .
idk what you're on about...
but if it's an attempt to claim that properly funding eduction is a waste of time, or that the right doesn't in fact like to underfund education - you'll need to actually try to prove those points if you hope to persuade me.
and yes, it's a shame that the american education seems incapable, but i'd be amazed if the blame for that really lies with the party that doubled it's funding.
@@mikotomisaka8714 If you understand that lying is wrong then maybe you know that killing babies is wrong? And John Oliver making fun and laughing about it in a skit is just....wow! You don't have to think about it, it is just wrong. I am shocked at how callous everyone is in this comment section.
that OB/GYN angrily explaining how the CPC had lied to that woman made me feel so comforted. she was so indignant for her patient, and even respected her as a full person by saying 'she had been using drugs throughout the pregnancy, so very responsibly decided to end the pregnancy.'
A pastor working for a CPC harassed me while I was just getting my birth control implant replaced at a Planned Parenthood. My partner punched him out cold onto the icy ground. Planned Parenthood had footage of him trying to pull me away from the doors so my partner wasn't charged but the pastor was (trespassing and assault) I was so pleased. I still giggle about it.
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I would donate to a Kickstarter for that footage.
Kinda appropriate that CPC's would employ the same tactics as sexual predators
and some even run by people that have commited sex crimes (as was mentioned in the video)
@@limbobilbo8743 Wait, what? SERIOUSLY????
Lol CPC's are messed up
I mean republicans do fund a lot of them so.........of course they'll act like predators.
Wait, they aren't sexual predators?
Force them to have a baby and then ‘cut them off’. These people are evil.
Did these centers rape the women and impregnate them? No? Then they aren’t forcing anyone to have a baby. There are many ways to practice safe sex which doesn’t require killing an innocent human being. Maybe people who aren’t in a good position to raise children shouldn’t be getting knocked up in the first place. But I suppose, that’s too much to ask!
@Patricia77 Hine9 Or maybe we just believe that the people having kids should be more responsible when they know damn well they aren't in a position to take care of them in the first place. But how dare I feel someone be accountable for their own actions when you can just kill a human being. That's the problem these days, people don't want to be held accountable for their actions/behavior, it's always someone elses problem/fault.
@P77 A11H9 Hine9 lmfao your logic is flawed. So should I not judge murderers or feel bad for victims since it's other people's lives. Stop being a sheep
@P77 A11H9 Hine9 Funny you should say that. Because according to the statistics states that don't have sex education have higher rates of teenage pregnancies than state that do. But hey when have Conservatives let a little thing like reality get in the way of their world view.
Legit question but...@@zackp17
Imagine being pregnant by rape and walking into that place to see the yay for the new mommy and daddy sign. Disgusting.
"They're about controlling womens' sexual behavior." Fucking nailed it, John
Children shouldn't do woohoo.
@@MoeruAcckkountu "woohoo"? are you a child yourself?
I went to college in a small town in Minnesota and there was a CPC in my town. I honestly thought they offered abortion clinics, until a student at my school wrote an article for the school paper and exposed them. The people at the clinic were FURIOUS and wrote angry things all over the Internet accusing him of "making things up." If I remember correctly it was a pretty ugly-worded response too, even though the original was only stating the facts without any personal attacks--I think this comparison shows their true color: people who hide behind fake and misleading messages, twisting truths and attacking those who expose them into the light.
Jade Zheng the CPC people went after a college kid for speaking the truth? Wow. That shows exactly what they are. Kudos to that kid.
+Zarkow The richer the Churches the scummier they tend to be. That's my impression.
good he did, might have un-ruined some lifes... and yeah, religion hasn´t got any right to tell women what to do. they already did for centuries and let´s say it didn´t work THAT well ;)
Good for him, ya know? He had to know some of that was coming when he wrote the article but went through with it anyway.
where in MN? im from Minneapolis
These organizations are absolutely morally horrifying. I went to a conservative Christian school from Kindergarten through high school. I honestly have no idea how much of my tuition went towards funding these CPCs. All of my sex ed was actually taught by the local CPC. I cannot explain to you how terrifying it is to hear the quote, "If you got pregnant, even through rape, it is completely your fault and you should love your baby no matter what." I've been told that condoms don't work, that the pills don't work, and it's truly my fault that these things don't work because of "human's sinful nature." To this day, I hate how I was taught and I guarantee you that nothing has changed. These need to go as soon as possible.
It high key sounds like you were being taught be a cult wth? 😬
At my Catholic high school, they had a woman who worked at a cpc come in and say something (can't remember word for word) along the lines of if you don't love who you have sex with your body won't carry the pregnancy to term. I just sat there dumbfounded that this lady was saying something so biologically inaccurate it's not even funny. Then we had one teacher who showed us pictures of "abortions" but in actuality, they were some sort of baby doll model representation.
This is why laws mandating medically accurate, comprehensive sex-ed are important. :(
Burn that whole town to the ground
@@abigmood3389 the difference between a cult and an accepted religion are exactly and precisely the number of people following.
It is literally impossible to be a completely logical, rational human being, while believing in ancient fairy tales and the story of a whore who gave birth to a literal illusionist.
2,000 yesrs ago Chris Angel would've been regarded as a saint. Let that sink in.
A friend of mine got herself an abortion a few months ago.
Reasons being:
1) It was not the right time for her to have a baby. She was not financially stable enough to raise a child or be checked in to a hospital for childbirth. (She took the pill, she was covered and cleared by her doctor).
2) Her family would have disowned her if she told them she was pregnant without being married. She lives at home, and would have been kicked out.
3) She did not want to put a child through the system after reading the statistics. She wanted to raise and protect a child of her own, on her own time, and she was not ready for that.
Another friend of mine got impregnated via rape and also got an abortion (couple years ago). You cannot, in good conscience, call her a monster for not wanting to keep something growing inside of her against her will. She didn't WANT the baby. The man who raped her hurt her. She didn't want to continue HIS legacy. She has a wonderful Fiancé now, and he told her that he didn't care about having kids until she was ready to do so. (Honestly he's a gem and I'm so damn happy that she has a good guy!)
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In the first situation: Yes, she should have been using protection, but she made a mistake. Everyone makes mistakes. She has learned and is taking steps to avoid situations like that.
In the second scenario: if she had carried the baby to term, it would have been a constant reminder of the horrendous things she had to go through. It would be a scar on her memory.
It is devastating whenever someone needs an abortion, yes. However, robbing the woman of the choice to stop if she's not ready is wrong. Would you condemn my friends? They put a lot of thought into their decisions.
I'm really sorry for your friend who got raped and awesome for her that she has a good man who loves her and can help her heal.
Let's say a woman got raped and was unable to get an abortion. Should it be legal for her to kill the child after it leaves the womb? Obviously not.
What I'm getting at is that, if it is a baby in there, you can't morally kill it in any circumstances. Rape is horrible, but you don't make it better by killing a child.
Patrick McDonald You dont know when they got the abortion. You dont know the state of the clump of cells.
Women need to have a choice up until a certain point where an abortion cannot be done because it pretty much is a baby
@@patrickmcdonald5083
A few things, Sir.
First of all, this is a friend who is very near and dear to my heart and you are condemning her for not keeping something growing inside of her against her will that she did not want there in the first place. Reading that out of context, you might call it a parasite, which I think some people might object to strenuously, but I digress. Keeping the baby would have resulted in her giving it up for adoption because she sure as hell wasn't going to raise a reminder that she had been violently RAPED. RAPED, sir.
It was a violation of her own bodily autonomy. She still has bodily autonomy. Corpses have bodily autonomy, for God's sake. By taking away the rights she has to have an abortion, you are giving her less rights than a God-be-damned corpse. Think about that for a moment out of context. If someone told you that you had less rights than a dead person, you would go ballistic, as you should.
Second of all, you are a man, sir, judging by your name. I will concede that it could be a female going under the pseudonym "Patrick" but that seems unlikely to me. I am someone who believes that if a woman with a significant other wants to have an abortion, then she and her significant other should definitely talk about it but at the end of the day it is HER body. It is HER decision. No uterus, no final say.
It's not your body. Why do you care? Does condemning a woman with such a tortured soul who had to make a very tough decision in what ended up being a string of tragedies give you a lovely warm glow inside? I doubt it does for anyone, and yet you do it anyway. Frankly, it's none of your business.
Her abortion was early. First trimester. Stop condemning my friend. She did nothing wrong.
@@carmensavu5122 Me too. He's helped her through so much and they have such a loving, healthy relationship it's hard not to be happy for her.
I wanted to keep my daughter and was in an abusive relationship. I went to one of these centers truly seeking help. I don't know who they help but the only options they presented me were to give her away to strangers. I pulled through myself. She's a happy, healthy 11 year old in gifted and talented classes and it wasn't thanks to their help! I'm pro choice all the way but thought I should share they don't even help people who do want to have their child. At least not me.
I am so proud of how far you and your daughter have come in this world. I am so sorry you were denied help. It sucks when people try to punish you just because you make decisions that don't align in their little reality!
Oh so even when you want to keep them to term, CPC's are still garbage? Good to know. Why do these exists?
@@JABRIEL251 Yes that was my case. I even looked into living in this charity "home for mother's with kids" I had a car and a cell phone and that wasn't allowed. They wanted me to work FT and leave my tiny little baby with them all day. I wouldn't do it and also didn't want to stay someplace that makes you feel like you're in jail and need to be punished because you had a baby out of wedlock lol. It's like nothing's changed since the 50's at those places.
They have no business calling themselves pro-life.
They refused to help me with my wanted pregnancy too. I had a complication that almost killed me and did kill my 7 month wanted pregnancy bc I didn’t have access to a real clinic and tried to go to a CPC to get an ultrasound that they flatly refused me bc I was 14 weeks pregnant at the time I went in, in a state with a ban on abortion past 12 weeks. I told them I was scared and badly needed to be seen by a doctor bc I couldn’t go anywhere else and they basically just told me “god wants to help you and your body is made for this” before telling me to come back after my baby was born if I “changed my mind” about wanting her.
They literally killed my wanted baby by denying the help they advertised on a giant sign outside the building bc if it didn’t have to do with guilting vulnerable women out of abortions or (as I found out later) “rehoming” for an exorbitant fee (ie FUCKING SELLING) unwanted babies, they could not give a single shit less about mothers, babies, or the preservation of life. I was 17 when I had to bury my daughter and the damage it did to my body was so extreme I’ve had 3 more miscarriages and been told I will prob never be able to have a child naturally. I’ve also got severe PTSD from the experience it took nearly a decade to get medical help for.
These places should be seen for what they are; the human equivalent of puppy mills where they feed women into a meat grinder so they can profit off forcing them through traumatic experiences.
I could have sworn lying was a sin. Golly, must be my lady hormones making me all confused.
The whole idea of religion is based on lies.
It's our tiny lady brains that make us unable to do anything but breed and cook.
PforPanthera #ABK Yes. I heard that the devil works through deception. But, what do I know? Lady hormones must be acting up again. I'm just relieved that a government full of old white men can make my important healthcare decisions for me. Otherwise, it might be too taxing for my frail brain.
George Costanza can I see your sources for this?
Okami God told him
I clicked on a John Oliver video in public thinking it's fine and then my speaker just said "Pornography" and now everyone is looking at me weird. I blame you John.
In The Mind of Kibara i clicked on it in the library, with my earphones disconnected.
Same I put it on full blast in my room 🙈
trolled.
In The Mind of Kibara Iol
In The Mind of Kibara should have let it play till it said abortion if there is one thing that people that hate porn love its abortion
My brother’s wife AND my husband’s sister both had to get abortions with their first pregnancies due to medical issues. Both babies did not develop fully and not only would the babies not survive the pregnancy, they were putting both women in danger. The decision was heartbreaking for both of them, but they both chose to go forward with the procedure. They wouldn’t perform the procedure in the hospital so both had to go to an abortion clinic. My husband’s sister got accosted by protesters as she was walking in to the clinic! The most heart wrenching day of her life and she was accosted because she had to get an abortion to save her own life! If the government wants to put so many restrictions on these clinics, they should let them be done in an actual hospital!
That's a really good point!
I've heard that in a lot of countries, they actually do ab0rt10ns either at a family doctor or a hospital.
@@ruaraidh74 the name of the condition both the babies had? They both had anencephaly (their brains did not develop). Basically anything above the eyes was not there at all. Really horrible thing to have to process, and then having to decide if you want to go forward with the entire pregnancy knowing the baby will not survive outside of the womb, or go ahead and put a stop to it early so there is less trauma on the baby and the mother. I had to watch both women make that choice, and am incredibly grateful I did not have to go through the same thing. I did get to hold my nephew though. He was smaller than the palm of my hand and looked exactly like my brother, but the top of his head was just missing. With the little beanie thing on it was easy to imagine him as just sleeping. That was a horrible day for the whole family.
That was the first family member that had this happen. She chose to go through with early labor at 20 weeks. The other 2 had to go to the abortion clinic because the hospital would not induce labor for some reason. And somehow the gene for this awful birth defect is being passed down so we never know if we will have it happen again.
@@ruaraidh74 there were people standing outside the clinic calling them murderers and sinners. It didn’t matter what the reason was. And even if it wasn’t life threatening to the mother’s, it was and still is traumatic. Hell, I am still traumatized and it has been about 10 years since I held my little nephew in my hand. If I had been at the clinic with them, I can guarantee I probably would’ve been arrested if I had witnessed those nut jobs saying that stuff to my family while they were making the hardest decision they had ever had to make.
My mom told me a few years ago that she had an abortion in college. If she hadn't, I probably wouldn't exist today. If she had given birth that first time, she probably would have had to drop out of college, the father didn't believe her when she told him, so she would have been on her own. She never would have joined the Army, where she met my dad. They then waited until they were near 30, had a stable income and a house. Granted, she ended up having to leave my dad for some very good reasons, but because of those choices, I grew up in a stable environment, where we had plenty of money for food, clothes and toys for me. She got back with an old boyfriend of hers and he raised me as his own until he died a couple years ago from a heart attack. Instead of that other baby, being born to a young 20 something with a lower paying job, probably no college degree, no father to a mother who didn't want it in the first place. Who knows how that child's life would have gone. We have these clinics in my town, and knowing what they can pull pisses me off.
That's a great story.
Wow, this full story sounds so different to my european ears where, you do not have to drop out of school for a baby, there are programs for young parents so you can study halftime, have free daycare and you get financial help.
Second having enough money for food is ... the bare minimum everyone here can expect.
Preventing abortion by guilt talking someone into keeping the baby is so absurd to me. Giving them the chance to raise their child in dignity if they want to keep it is our way to prevent abortion for economical reasons. Any other reasoning is with the pregnant person and her decission alone.
I think I should ad something. Your mom made a tough decission and she did what she had to do. She is a brave woman.
I mean, fair enough, and I’m OK with abortions, but saying, “If she hadn’t had an abortion, I wouldn’t have existed,” is kind of an ironic and selfish thing to say.
@@dodgyyoutuber9560 Selfish, yeah. I'm happy that I was able to live the life I have. But I don't see how it's ironic.
“She stays on that table until she loves that baby”
Yo.....I’ve never wanted to scream so much in my life
Ahh yes. The horrible, fucked reality of modern conservative ideology. "Dont let women kill their babies"
Those evil bastards.
@lcyw20 why?
@@MoriartyTheFifth because think about what she is saying. Her job is lying people on a table and emotionally and physiologically guilting them until they start to agree with what she is saying. She uses methods of guilt, calling the woman a mummy, saying the baby is trying to communicate, and continuing to do so until she submits to it.
@@BaloonBoy7 That's actually a crime.
@@merlintym1928 But forcing women to endure pregnancy is perfectly fine, of course.
You know it’s like Jesus said, “It’s cool to lie to people as long as you get what you want.”
"Jesus ain't say that."
It is a historical fact that a man named Jesus Christ did live n that time and was viewed as God among st several people. Now it just matters whether you believe him to be a normal person or actually God.
Praise Be!
Hilarious.
mickskitz Actually, it's not Plato. We don't have evidences if Socrates existed, for all mentions we have about him are the ones in Plato books. Socrates appears many times as a character, that could be either Plato's idealised vision of his tutor or, well, just a character.
This happened to me approximately 30 years ago in Alabama. The clinic's name was Save A Life. I went for a free pregnancy test. I was LOCKED in a room with a TV playing an anti-abortion video. It was very graphic showing a woman having seizures and cut up fetuses. They were pressuring me about adoption, which was a mistake. I was living in my car and working part time. My father would not allow me in their house. My father had also forbid me to be on birth control. I was in no position to go through all that. I was furious. So I cursed them out for being deceitful and predatory then went to planned parenthood. I was 18 years old.
I hope with the recent threats to abortion rights you'll address this again.
Yes, the CPC here has locked women in a room, also.
Pretty sure locking someone in a room against their will is a crime. Or at least, it _should_ be.
Wow. It takes some kind of guts to do that. Mad respect
@@spongeintheshoe There is the 5150, a 72 hour hold for when a person is a clear threat to self or other...however, that has to be authorized by a law enforcement officer or a licensed medical professional.
CPC's fall into neither category, and a woman seeking abortion is neither a threat to herself nor a threat to others.
So, the CPC in question broke the law.
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Some real handmaid’s tale shit going on here
Yeah. I remember reading that book when it came out and thinking what an entertaining fantasy it was. Aargh.
@@jeanettewaverly2590 it was too real to be fantasy. And if you read interviews with the author, she did some deep dives into historical atrocities and basically pieced them together in a horror story, particularly for women
WOMEN, WE MUST REVOLT NOW, BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE✊
Yay!
But actually, I'd LOVE it if you'd take that delightful new bus clinic and park it right outside a CPC or two and ACTUALLY handed out condoms, gave phone numbers for the nearest ACTUAL abortion clinics in the area (even if they're a state away), AND still gave free ultrasounds (or at the very least, still gave pamphlets with real information about pregnancy, abortion laws, and what real options and planning look like). I don't know what kind of budget the network is giving you, but... >_> Just an idea.
You hate babies. You're biased. Shut your mouth.
and it is completly legal 2, great i wanna hop on the bandwagon
You don't care care what happens to babies after they are born. You're biased. Shut your mouth.
Alexander Jeans Then I guess you hate women. See? Everyone can say those things with no facts to back them up.
Alexander Jeans you are biased friend. This is less a matter of providing abortions but simply providing correct information to the populace to make a sound decision. Some people who feel they never had the time to think over their decision and end up getting pushed into having the child may dislike or disown that child afterwards which is far worse than an abortion. If women going through such a difficult almost soul searching choice had the correct and full information behind the weight of their choice there would still be many women who would end up keeping the child because THEY felt it was the better decision. But this is the mother’s choice, not ours to make. That’s why the mothers should have access to quality unbiased information.
Average prolifer: "We must not never have abortions! All life is sacred!"
Bit later, same people: "Why are my urban centers flooded with youth drug addicts and criminals from poor backgrounds without any father figures?"
Cause and effect is so hard to understand.
Why don't we just go around and murder all the poor and fatherless children?
Jack Taylor Why are americans allowed to carry guns to use lethal force against criminals? Every single U.S citizen that has used gun in self defense should be prosecuted for premeditated murder. All life is sacred after all.
Yes, the terrible scourge of murderous fetuses has us all fearing for our lives.
Kuolonen I agree with you somewhat but let's be honest, it's the people not having abortions that probably should. Anyone who thinks about abortions is probably a responsible person for lining up all their options and thinking things through. I've seen a single woman getting pregnant by 3 different guys, don't think abortion crossed her mind. Just child support. Those kids will be the youth drug addicts and criminals
Kuolonen Oh come on, if you can't see the difference between defending yourself against an attacker and actively ending the life of your unborn child even if it poses no threat to you then you're beyond help. Get some perspective.
I was reading the comments and saw a good quote
"A apple seed is not an apple tree"
-@Have a great day!
I am a Christian and despite what I personally feel about abortion I am appalled about the immoral behaviour of the anti abortion people.
I think there are conversations that could be had and genuine help that could be provided, including financial aid, adoption services, education and impartial counselling. But lying and manipulating vulnerable women is disgusting and deplorable. It's highly hypocritical as much as anything else. They don't seem to truly care as much as they profess.
It seems as if when you ask pro-choice people what they would change, most are like "better wages, do something against discrimination, better child care options, better sex-ed, free longterm contraception, universal healthcare" etc, just generally making abortion less needed while keeping it safe and legal for when it is needed.
When you ask anti-choicers, the answer usually is "make abortion illegal", no matter the fact that it will still be needed, just not be available. That's how you get people drinking bleach, throwing themselves down stairs, and using coathangers. That is how you get newborns thrown into dumpsters. That is how you get dead people. But those are then born people, so whatever, as it seems.
Don’t fall for this propaganda.
Here in Indianapolis, there is a CPC next door to a Planned Parenthood abortion clinic.
Why do they feel the need to lie to women? Oh right, because honesty is a sign of respect for a person's intelligence and agency.
Go but a big street sign in front of their place that says "Religious not medical institution", I mean you've got freedom of speech don't you?
I didn't even know we had Planned Parenthood in Indy
Planned parenthood also do not tell the truth
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Right, just leave that without any details 🙄
@Solstice of Snow You are a liar.
Planned Parenthood provides full service health care for women. They screen for female cancers, provide contraceptive services, vaccinations against HPV, and regular gynecological exams. They also provide prenatal care fir women who choose to give birth.
They also provide these services in a confidential, non-judgmental way. They offer emotional and psychological counseling and support.
OK, knucklehead, last point: the Hyde Amendment prohibits the use of federal funds to pay for abortions. So, PP cannot make federal money on abortion services.
And unlike you & your ilk, PP won't abandon the new family after a baby's birth. They have health care for baby & mom.
I think Planned Parenthood wins.
My favorite part about Crisis Pregnancy Centers is that they often don't even claim to be JUST a pregnancy/abortion clinic but a women's clinic in general. There's not one but TWO of those things on either side of the local Planned Parenthood (both calling themselves Women's Health Clinic and Women's Care Clinic) and when I had a UTI I mistakenly went in there for antibiotics. They were very nice to me up until the moment they realized I wasn't pregnant and therefore was no use to them to which they then told me to go 'see a doctor' instead. Which is funny, because they had me laboring under the impression there ALREADY was a doctor on their premises. Silly me to believe a place that calls itself a 'Women's Health Clinic' didn't actually have any way of taking care of a woman's health. Thankfully Planned Parenthood actually DOES take care of women's health issues and so I all I had to do was wander next door. I really have to wonder how many women like me who were just sick wandered into those places thinking they could get treatment and were soundly rejected.
They are sick dysfunctional people who can't evaluate how manipulatively evil they are being.
Ariel Hunt My mom did the same thing, actually
Indeed
I went in for an ultrasound for a pregnancy I wanted to keep when I was in high school and they flatly refused me the treatment I wanted to make sure me and my baby were safe bc I was already past the cutoff for an abortion. I wound up having a major complication, almost died, and lost my wanted pregnancy bc they literally didn’t give a shit about anything other than guilting scared women out of getting abortions they might desperately need. They don’t give a single shit about life or mothers or babies, or they wouldn’t turn people like me away and wouldn’t make women who agree to keep their pregnancies “earn” the right to their help by doing tasks that make their financial and home situations even more unstable.
Man imagine if they spent, like half that money on creepy vans for diverting pregnant women away from medical services on say, health care, anti-poverty saftey nets, and/or effective sex education, they could actually probably reduce abortions by a considerable amount, while also not causing women in hard situations any more confusion and suffering.
But they don't care about that, they only care about controlling people and bringing back gender roles from the 50s. I mean, the modern anti-choice movement came to be because of (who they saw as) women being able to get birth control without written permission from husbands or fathers.
Yeah but if you educate them on how you get pregnant and how not to get pregnant, how on earth will you then ever convince that woman to become a housewife to 7 little lambs of christ while she cleans the house and reads her bible?
Don't feed women too much information, it will give them a sense of controll and they'll start making decisions.
Yep. I accidentally did my college internship at a crisis pregnancy center without knowing what I was getting into. I was super religious at the time and just knew that my church promoted the place and I could get to do ultrasounds all day! Definitely an eye opener. And yes, they absolutely tell people that condoms are ineffective, and they also actively shame women for having premarital sex. Not just the patients, but they were constantly talking down to me about the fact that I lived with someone. They have no soft spot in their hearts for these women. The ladies that ran this place seemed more like they hated sexualy active young women and had no desire to help them, only a desire to shame them and convince them to keep babies they dont want.
Who are we? "Pro lifers"!
What do we want? To lower the number of abortions!
How do we do that? By talking people out of using condoms!
Gosh, they are snitching on themselves so hard.
I understand that people don't like abortions and think they should be banned, but here's a little secret: the majority of pro-choice people don't like it either, but it's a difficult choice for individuals to make, not anyone else. Abortions aren't likeable, but they should be an option for women who want or need one
I don't like abortions but its also none of my fucking business
Noah Lamberty The pro-life stance is a moral claim, based on the believed personhood of the fetus. It is not something that pro-life people hold to like the opinion that ketchup is better than mustard. But yeah, the judgmentalism that goes with many pro-lifers is not constructive at all.
ThaGodWeCreate Yeah, well it wasn’t the North’s business to invade the south and make them end slavery. Just because the north didn’t like slavery didn’t mean they had to make the south give up their slaves. If you don’t like slavery, don’t own a slave. God I fucking hate the US.
Exactly the problem with Pro lifers is that they are making decisions for these people that they don't even know. And they don't care about the fetus after it is born. They don't support contraception or welfare. They don't talk about foster care system or adoption or childhood hunger or even healthcare. It's actually kind of evil when you think about it. Using emotions to force these women to do exactly what is worse for them and what might completely destroy both of their lives...
feefee dee Except slaves are not a bunch of cells inside a woman, they're people.
Those people care about babies exactly as long as they are in the womb. As soon as they are out they are on their own.
Exactly, they are pathological, they people with uteruses, they hate kids. They get off on suffering and anguish and delight in perpetuating it as much as they possibly can.
To paraphrase George Carlin:
Pre-birth? You're good.
Pre-school? You're fucked.
They say ,"Life Begins at conception..." and that ,"Life is sacred..." but in total fragrant contradictory of those phrases they say have demonstrated through there actions time and time again that Health, Agency ,Safety, Security, Prosperity, Well-being, and overall Quality of life after said conception...
is negotiable...
at best.
The more I hear about these "pro-lifers," the more I believe they are closet pregnancy fetishists that just want as many pregnant women as they can, without giving a damn about the actual child.
@@SynGirl32 I'm currently reading "The blank slate" by steven pinker. It's a very interesting read and i highly recommend it to everybody. The reason i'm bringing this up right now is that the book among many other things also touches on the whole "pro life" vs "pro choice" debate and delivers a very interesting perspective on it. Unfortunatly i lack the neccesary eloquence to express that perspective adequatly. But it essentially comes down to a fundamental human intuition that helps us to determine the difference between human beings (and thus beings worthy of empathy) and non-human beings (and thus beings not worthy of empathy). For the full context i recommend reading the book.
"If you're preborn you're fine, if you're preschool you're fucked" -George Carlin
Steven Crowder did a rebuttal to this rant and honestly it just proved the complete ignorance of the pro-life movement. John was specifically talking about how these organizations target women, spread misinformation and harm women who are looking for abortions. And literally said if you are pro life that’s ok but don’t do it like THIS. But of course they saw this as an attack and labeled it propaganda. But isn’t it the right who always say “facts don’t care about your feelings.” Idk how anyone can watch this and see this as ok and an attack.
Gotta listen to the wording. “facts don’t care about your feelings.”, it cares about theirs. What I'm trying to say is they're hypocrites.
@@JABRIEL251 "Facts don't care about your feelings, and therefore shouldn't be admitted into the conversation."
And now with the benefit of hindsight Crowder has the bonus of being a hypocrite since he was caught on tape abusing his wife who was pregnant at the time
Good thing that asshat is divorced and irrelevant now, he treated his wife like trash
That woman Barbara Beavers looks straight outta some horror movie holy shit that random laugh!
She's like an extra from Get Out
E.g. Stephen King, "Misery". but i think for Mrs. Beavers Stphen Hawkings Books are the real Horrorstories.
she's pretty much a religious cult leader
She reminds me of Dolores Umbridge from HP: Order of Phoenix
Straight out of a FarCry game more like. I mean, shit, i'll go write a 2 page letter apologizing to the devs for all those times i said their evil characters were too over the top, that crazy head is worse. You can freaking smell the nut flavor on that woman...
Trying to lure women in to the back of a van. YES!, that isn't creepy.
And especial when they have kids in them.
And killing hundreds of thousands of babies a year and selling their corpses for profit isn't? What the hell is wrong with people volenteering their time to help women decide to not kill their child?
@@merlintym1928 while I'm up for an argument on that the point I'm putting out is that manly they don't help. My point isn't aboirson is good. Well it is but that's not my point here. I don't agrue about that.
newswars-dotcom lol that doctor’s trolling him
Why arent these woman on the predator list or #metoo feminist movement.
I was adopted at birth, and for a good portion of my life wish that my birth mom had gotten an abortion.
I bring that up not for shock value; I struggle immensely with trust issues and suicidal ideation, so that part is definitely mine.
I say this because I really believe that if we really cared about life, children, etc., we would make sure that they and women get everything they need to have healthy and loving relationships with them. Abortion is actually a humane choice if context is allowed to enter.
It hurts to see how little people actually care - especially as they’re willing to take advantage of and manipulate sensitive and vulnerable women so routinely. No wonder a lot these jokes have rape-vibe vans. They’re the same. Just on the other end.
A friend of mine recently opened up about his childhood. His mother noticed she was pregnant too late. We live in Germany and have the Abitur, the highest school diploma you can get. You spent three extra years in school and then at the end have to take exams in five subjects, three of which are 6 hours, one is 4 hours long and one is vocal.
If you don't pass them, you have wasted those years.
His mother A was stressed out studying and didn't notice she missed her period.
In Germany, you can have abortions pretty easily but only up to 12 weeks.
So she was forced to carry out, forced to marry his father (rural village in the late 80s). She had to give up her dreams, her ambitions, her happiness. Because in the eyes of the law she was by that point worth less than the fetus.
My friend's father was abusive (verbally to all, physically, financially and all to his wife, controlled her life so much every grocery trip needed to be accounted for cent by cent) and his younger brother (conceived about a year and a half after the marriage) was a rape pregnancy. However, marital rape wasn't a crime back than, nor was spousal abuse. So nothing the father did to A was something she could technically get help for. She still stuck around until my friend was 7 and then peaced out. Disappeared. From letters she wrote to her friend that her parents got after she disappeared they gathered that she only had two options. Suicide or running away, never seeing her parents again, in the hopes that her husband never found her. They don't even know if she is still alive, he is in his 30s now and never saw her again.
My friend cried so much, saying he knew as a kid that his parents didn't love him, that his mother lied whenever she said she did. But knowing just how much his existence destroyed her life and every chance at happiness she might have had kills him inside. His words were 'why did my potential to be born matter more than her rights to her body, her life, her happiness? It's just wrong.'
His father lost custody of the children afterwards pretty quickly so he never got to physically abuse them like he did their mum and they grew up far away from him with their grandparents who were very loving people. They have good lives and especially the younger one doesn't remember much of their parents. He only ever really knew his grandparents and their safe and loving home.
My friend said he doesn't mind being alive and doesn't have suicidal thoughts or anything but he wishes he had never been born.
Being born isn't the best thing to happen, an abortion can save lives.
I wish all these people protesting for 'the lives of the children' would actually care about people and saving lives.
There's no "Jelly on the belly" for early pregnancy, they have to go intravaginally. Same as when checking for cysts or endometriosis.
I’ve been pregnant 3 times and transvaginal was only used once when the fetus couldn’t be located at first (All ultrasounds I was only 6-8 weeks)
As a CNA (certified nursing assistant), I can not believe CPCs aren’t illegal. That’s just absolutely absurd.
Robert Hoffman also, it's not your body to decide for. I agree that it's not a decision that should be made lightly and I doubt it ever is but no one has the right to make that decision for someone else. If you are a woman and decide to have the baby, that's great if you are a woman and decide you cant, that's your decision. If you are a man...you don't get a decision.
How is that not fraud? How are these places being funded? Why isn't this illegal?
Legal loopholes
Why isnt killing babies illegal?
@@merlintym1928 I'm not trying to get into an argument or anything but what if the women can't have the baby without it killing her? Where do you stand in that situation
@@theb3ez346
If someone is going to kill you, you can protect your life with lethal force.
Merlin tym it is illegal. But a fetus younger than 20w isn’t a baby, so abortion is not killing a baby.
I absolutely love this episode. John Oliver, please don’t ever change. Things like this need to be talked about much more often - and changed so things are much better for the victims involved💯💯💯💯
Edit: If “Hot Dam” was a real show/movie, I would totally watch it. Repeatedly.
I can confirm the majority of what he is saying is true. In my freshmen year at a Catholic HIgh School I had to volunteer at a CPC. It was located across the street from an Abortion Clinic. While inside we were taken a tour of the CPC and yup in the room where they did the ultrasounds were stupid blurbs that said things like 'Hi mommy!' 'I can't wait to meet you!'
"Mamas...women..." That's pretty succinct. This Beavers lady thinks that 'woman' and 'mother' are synonymous.
No. She said pregnant women are mothers. Which they are.
@@merlintym1928 Most pregnant women who want to keep it say "I'm gonna be a mom", not "I'm a mom" (unless they already have a child)
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And most pregnant women would be objectively incorrect.
@@merlintym1928 This isn't objective.
Also, most men with pregnant women say "I'm gonna be a dad", and we call them future fathers.
@@elineverstraeten1872
It is objective. Pregnancy is the period in which a mammal carries live offspring until it is develepmentally capable of eating and breathing. If you have live offspring you are a mother, which would make you a mother during pregnancy.
What most people "say" is irrelevant because most people aren't qualified to say anything authoritative on the subject.
So after receiving too many of the wrong kind of seed donations, John and Wanda have decided to talk to people that suffered the same fate.
Praise be. Praise be.
XD
I'm dead, you killed me you cheeky little nad! How dare you be so funny!
Praise be!
2ShyShy the irony is, they were able to get rid of those seeds.
Praise be.
I'm just disgusted... I can't say anything to get as close how horrifying, monstrous and appalling all this is...
GREAT! So the thousands of dollars worth of taxes I pay each year, is going towards these ridiculous ass windowless vans!
"Mothers... I mean, women..."
I guess we know what she thinks a woman's role is then
last time i checked i dont have tits so yes a male cant be a mother
I am just wondering why she isnt in the kitchen cooking for her 10+ kids,instead of manipulating clueless girls and women into lifealtering decisions.
@@eriseden1207 exactly
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The point
You
@@generalviewer8347 if you don't have tits then something is wrong with your body. men can even produce milk with those things in the right conditions
Parts of the baby end up in your heart and lungs?
oh yeah forgot my reproductive system was connected to my respiratory tract. GTFOH
angela simons they are not even connected to directly to your gastrointestinal tract. It's like someone that isn't a doctor tried to impersonate a doctor. Med school as well?
yeah I know. I'm a nurse. I can't belive they can even say that bullshit to these young women. smh
angela simons yeah they just like spreading bullshit all the time. They can't even reach your capillaries let alone your heart and next thing they said it will nestle on the brain despite the presence of the fucking blood-brain barrier
Umm what? It's so easy to imagine a tiny limb weaving itself through intestines, passed the diaphragm and INSIDE of the lungs without dissolving at any point.
Ladyuko It's still will be recognized as a foreign entity by your defense systems and will be devoured. You cant swim up either since there is something called physics.
They are so firm in their holy believes, yet they don't give a crap about *"Thou shalt not bear false witness"*
These places are as literally just full of quack doctors. They should all be shut down and the employees should be jailed for life for medical malpractice.
Thumbs up for calling pro-lifers "force birthers' since that's what they really are.
@@louisduong2090 Like John (and many others) said, if you want to reduce abortion rates, teach people proper sex ed and provide them with birth control options.
But in USA, you don't have proper sex ed in many places, you don't provide people with birth control overall, because you don't have general healthcare, so many people can't afford it, and you don't have paid maternal (parental) leave. But you're ok with lying to women just to get them to give birth and then you don't care. Right now, you're sentencing women into having kids they don't want and/or can't provide for, without teaching them (and their partners) how to not get pregnant.
In my country, reproduction is taught in general as a part of biology classes and we have special sex ed classes too. I actually even went to Catholic high school, but because my country has general curriculum that schools have to follow, we received scientific information, everyone regardless of gender knew, how male and female reproductive systems work, how women get pregnant, what consent is, what are various methods of birth control, how pregnancy works, why so man pregnancies end naturally within the first trimester. OBGYNs here provide birth control (and we have general healthcare) and you can buy condoms in pretty much any local store you go to (pack of three is really cheap too) and as fas as I know, you can buy plan B pill without prescription. We also have paid materal leave.
According to statistics I found, our abortion rate within Europe is pretty low and it seems to be lowering over the last few years (or at least not going up). So that's your way to save babies and reduce abortion rates. But I often find that people just want to scream at women and control them, not really help them or the babies.
I call them pro-uterus-police.
I am more half pro-life, like I dont think it should be illegal but I would never do it myself, nor be friends with someone who has an abortion unless under very dire circumstances, like if you are caring someone baby then 1 or more of the parents passes. That's just my opinion but I would not like to be called a 'forced-birther'.
GachaAlex :3 so what your saying is that you respect people’s right to choose even though you yourself wouldn’t use that health care provision? So what you’re saying is you are pro choice?
@@toastxer If you don't agree with abortion being illegal, that means you are pro-choice. If you want to keep the option of abortion safe and legal, that means you are pro-choice. The pro-life/pro-choice distinction has nothing to do with what you would personally do, or talk your friends in to doing. It has to do with what you believe the law should be.
Yes because we obviously don't have any children in foster care who would need a parent. Let's just make more.
And God forbid your are a foster child of color and not overseas you are least likely to be adopted.
@@NicoleKe in my state children who are non-white and over the age of 2 are considered special needs because so few people are willing to adopt them. That's why my spouse and I are listing black and biracial children specifically on our adoption paperwork. (Also, my son is multiracial and my spouse and I are white. I don't want him getting singled out all the time.)
And our foster care system is complete shit. We spend too much time in other countries helping them out when we NEED to be fixing the shit in our country! (America)
bears eat a**holes
Can we just take some time to appreciate your username lmaoo
singular people can not adopt children. they have to be 2 in a relationship and probably hetero.
A dream job of mine would be to work in one of these centers and being like “go, save yourself” to a woman who wanted an abortion, that would be really fun
funny that Planned Parenthood is quite the opposite from its name.
You probably wouldn't keep the job for long, but I wouldn't blame you.
I accidentally ended up in one of these about a decade ago (we weren't even looking for an abortion anyway, but w/e), and it was wild. They immediately separated my ex from me and took her in the back for upwards of 45 minutes. Anyone who's ever had a baby knows that I would normally have been welcomed back as well, if this place were on the up and up, which they were not.
I started looking around the waiting room and it became apparent that Jesus was ultra-popular there. Finally, my ex returns and very stiffly whispers, "Let's go now."
Apparently, they did an ultrasound, made her look at it, asked her if I was pressuring her to abort, then asked to pray for her, along with an assortment of other odd things. They gave us a pamphlet of classes and told us that if we went to enough classes, we could get free stuff. We guessed that the classes would likely just devolve into Bible study, and passed. Fucking nuts, man.
My brother is "pro-life", and will parrot the bullshit about cancer risks and all that fuckery as pure scientific fact. Point him to medical studies that prove him 100% wrong and he very obstinately states that "they're made to say that".
We don't talk much at this point.
Id understand why. I wouldnt talk to my brother either if he supported the killing of 600 thousand babies every year.
@@merlintym1928 you keep responding on every pro-choice comment, but each and every time you're just plain wrong - both factually and ethically.
@@MZB80
Explain how killing people who pose no threat to life or property is ethical.
@@MZB80
If I am wrong, correct me. Because the number is right. It was 638,169 in 2015. More babies killed in abortion clinics than died of cancer. Or heart disease. Or smoking. Or car accidents. Or gun violence. Or suicide. Or anything else. The leading cause of death in the united states is medically induced miscarriages and its ENTIRELY preventable.
Please. Call the leading cause of death "ethical". I wont.
Merlin tym quick hypothetical, imagine your 16, pregnant with a baby that you can’t afford, you go for your first ultrasound and you Find out that your child will be born with a terminal illness which will leave them wheelchair bound until 11, and at that point they will drop dead without ever speaking or pretty much living. That might sound far fetched right, but that’s the crushing truth for many people, my mum works at a special needs schools and there are at least 30 kids there who are exactly like that, and there not there to learn, their there to give their family a break from being a full time carer to a child that could of easily been put out of its misery in an abortion.
_"Here's another question I have, _*_How come when it's us, it's an abortion, and when it's a chicken, it's an omelette?"_*_ - George Carlin_
The eggs from the chicken were sterile. In other words, chickens have better access to unbiased health care and contraception than American women do. Oh, and it's free for them to boot.
Praise be.
well, sorta. Eggs are chicken periods. And because chickens aren't allowed to mate (assuming they're egg chickens) it would be an allegory for abstinence only.
also, for most chicken "free birth control" comes hand in hand with a life in a cage and no sunlight. let's just stick with the egg-omelette thing shall we?
I'm pro choice, but... If we forget the fact that the eggs we eat are not fertilized, and we're basically eating chicken periods (Bon appétit)... We do eat chicken when they're born as well!
"Eggs are chicken periods" I have never just about laughed then gag in my life... Thank you for that experience.
For anyone who is against abortions: Please watch "Call the midwife", especially series eight. It shows what women did when abortions were illegal in the 1950s and 1960s and how they suffered. The lack of choices made them go to backalley places where other women with unsanitary equipment and little knowledge did what the women begged for. Of course, times have changed and there are many ways to prevent pregnancies, but if accidents happen, and they do, allow women to avoid a life of misery
Nobody should force their beliefs on anybody else. Believe what you want. Just don't expect me to. I'm a man, so abortion is none of my business unless the baby is mine and my opinion is asked. No man should be able to have any say on the subject unless they're asked
'What the fuck is wrong with america?' has now become the most frequently asked question
asked by ignorant ideologies usually.. well in this case the 1st amendment most likely protects the christians.. how do you solve this? better education from videos like this!!
That was always the question
ipiesings We have a different culture that was largely shaped by the shittiest form of Christianity, Puritanism. Then in the 80's Our Lovely Abusive Father in Heaven butted his way into politics through Regan and Bush Sr, and he's been getting drunk and giving Rationality cigar burns ever since.
I hate how people identify themselves as pro-life and pro-choice. You know why I'm pro-choice? Because I'm pro-life. Excuse me for not wanting the countless lives that haven't started yet to be frought with any combination of poverty, emotional abuse, neglect, sexual abuse, never being given any opportunities in life and having to just keep struggling for something you can't control, and not having a guardian.
Are you aware that there are 443,000 children in foster care in the US? And all these people are like "oh I want my kids to look like me and have my spouses nose and we'll be such a happy family". You know who's not happy? Most of those 443,000 kids in fostercare who you were too selfish to do anything other for than ignore. Stop shitting on people who've had abortions. Have a nice day.
And to my siblings who've had abortions, we're so proud of you for being responsible enough to put the welfare of that child ahead of other's hurtful words. I hope that you have a solid support system behind you when or if you decide to be a parent. We stand with you😘
fam you and everyone else adding on to mr olivers statements and backing him up are absolute treasures and i am so proud of yall
If you're pro-choice, don't argue that you're looking out for the wellbeing of the child by sparing them the horrors of the foster care system. What you're essentially arguing here is that being in that system is a fate worse than death (and I know it can be argued that a person can't die if they were never born to begin with, but that's little comfort to the person who isn't alive). First of all, that is a _very_ bold claim to make, and second, even if it _is_ true, then the solution to that would be to _fix our foster care system, not eliminate the people who would otherwise enter it._ If we take that approach, then why would we even _bother_ having a foster system at all? Why not just euthanize any child whose parents are found to be abusive, or get arrested, or die during their childhood?
spongeintheshoe
If you want parents to keep a baby, maybe advocate for things that will prevent unwanted pregnancy in the first place, and advocate for more support to low-income women who would otherwise not be able to support themselves and much less a child.
I know that the pro-life movement originated with good intentions, but there are better options for preventing abortions. that is, unless you support the lying, dehumanizing, and emotional manipulation that people use to convince women to keep their children.
@@xanderb2377 It doesn't need to be the birth parents specifically, but I do believe that every child deserves to live and be cared for. And for the record, I _do_ advocate for those things, and I do _not_ support lying, dehumanization, or emotional manipulation, no matter _what_ cause one hopes do advance by doing so.
spongeintheshoe
I am glad that you see the flaws in pro-life extremism. There are very few people in this comment section that agree on anything. The one thing that I hope is that if someone close to you feels the need to get an abortion, you will either support them throughout the pregnancy as well as when the baby is born, or you will understand the risk that the pregnancy poses, and support them despite their differing views.
When I was in high school (Catholic school), our local pregnancy center came to educate us about STDs and pregnancy. They spouted some pretty outdated and hateful ideas, including tell our entire class that homosexuality was a 'mental illness' and everything revolving around pregnancy and babies was tied in to something about 'God'. That was 2007. It's so wild to me that places like this can be legal and operating still, but unfortunately I'm also not surprised with how things have continued to decline over the past few years.
Abortion kills a human life.
@@christsavesreadromans1096so does guns. But Republican will protrct gun rights
@@MoeruAcckkountu Nearly all abortions kill a human life, not all guns are used to kill a human life.
It is not your body and therefor not your business, easy as that. Why this whole thing is so escalated in the US is beyond me.
Simple. If you consider a fetus to be a person, then getting an abortion deprives them of their life.
@@spongeintheshoe If you consider a fetus to be a person, then you should also consider an unwanted pregnancy to be a rape. In fact it's far worse than common rape, as it goes on for 250 days instead of 250 seconds, and the birth itself is far more violating than any penetrative sexual act. And it's totally acceptable to kill your rapist in order to stop this. Think about it.
@@alanna_weiss The kid doesn't choose to do it. And there's no way for them to not do it and still live.
@@spongeintheshoe yeah right, a fetus can't choose anything because it's not self-conscious, just like animals. But that doesn't matter, since it's not about guilt and punishment, it's about defending yourself.
I know I'm not camped out at abortion clinics discouraging women from having abortions, my business is looking for an all-I-can eat buffet!
This isn't pro-life it's simply pro-birth once you pop that kid out they don't help you.
Maritza Flores exactly.
To be fair, they don't care about the birth either, as many people cannot get insurance to cover much of the bill associated with giving birth.
Every baby not born is one consumer less, and one person less to tithe 10% of their income to (a) church... in the end it's all about money... They use religion to do this
It's just that if theses centers keep feeding false information to women this will make the situation worse. These centers need to be at least regulated by the government if they are going to be funded by the government
Maritza Flores true
i interned at planned parenthood's national office and one thing an executive said that stuck with me was "we'll continue to provide abortions as long as women continue to need them, but in an ideal world, we'd like abortion to be completely unnecessary." They advocate heavily for birth control/safe sex education because it's obviously better that women don't end up in that position in the first place. Abortion providers aren't operating because they want to make money; they're doing it because it's necessary -- they recognize that if everyone was educated about and able to access contraceptives, they wouldn't have a business, and they want it that way.
all of this. we dont want to kill children needlessly, but its better that they are than subjected to a lifetime of poverty, neglect, and potential abuse. in a way, we're saving both parties from needless struggle by aborting the child.
Abortion isn’t “killing children”. That’s not how that works
@@quirkyblackenbyAbortion takes the life a human being, so yes it is killing.
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I was voluntold into cleaning at one of these once. The woman who talked to my offbrand Girl Scout troop about what they did there told us straight out that they were trying to lure in people who were looking for the abortion clinic across the street and then guilt them into carrying the baby to term and sometimes converting to Christianity. They had a bell to ring every time they talked someone out of an abortion- I dusted the bell. It was supergross.
A case for justified arson.
10:11 “She stays on that table until we… until she decides she wants the baby”
Nearly slipped up and said “until we convince her she wants the baby.”
Close call there, Gertrude…
Starting a Last Week Tonight video is often an equal mix of anxiousness, excitement, and apprehension.
“I know this’ll be funny and informative, but it’ll also likely be horrifying to be made aware of this week’s topic”
RedTailedDolphin yep... realizing that there are more problems in the country/world than I ever realized is an anxiety inducer.
agreed. i missed a year's worth of john oliver and binged all the youtube bits in a week. now i'm an alcoholic nihilist. *thumbs up*
Black Comedy at its finest.
+RedTailedDoplhin
But luckily, he has the perfect mixture of comedy to pick you up, right after telling a devastating fact. I never feel sheer disapointment or depressed after a segment.
Everytime I watch John Oliver, I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
+Sakshi
"Why not both?"
yep. most of the times end up doing both.
Both. I get frustrated because there is no one there to challenge John Oliver on his facts and what he says or claims to know
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Oh please, did anyone insult you here? Is that really how you converse with people? Well petty insults aside, I'm just saying this because I believe it in general. I'd like it to happen for Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson too when they begin to spout off. Is that okay with your sensibilities?
This is hilarious. The bottom line is the show has already been labeled and scrutinized by other shows from right leaning media outlets as such, it's not like this is unknown so do your research yourself before going off. John Oliver has a left leaning liberal bias in his content and that can be achieved based on the INTERPRETATIONS of scientific data, economic/financial data, and regulations. He isn't some objective Jesus. We have left and right leaning media outlets all over the political spectrum that report and interpret the same events in different ways and they continue to do that while debating the other sides interpretations of events.
So slow your roll man... We aren't geniuses here and we look to them for information. I like shows like the Phillip Defranco because he presents both sides and their arguments of the same events as best as he can. How difficult is that? To do it without being so virtuous...That's all I'm saying
That these people still think an abortion is "killing a baby" is probably the strongest evidence that they can't learn.
Abortion does kill a human being...
Also many people do call their unborn children their baby. If a man punched a woman in the abdomen and aborted his own unborn child would you correct the woman if she said "he killed my baby!"? Would you tell her "it was just a fetus"?
@@mathildeyoung1823 She'd only say something like that if she actually gave a damn about the fetus and intended to let it develop into a baby. If not, then fetus would indeed be the appropriate term.
@@Anvilman "baby" is also an appropriate term as is "unborn child" or "human being". You do know abortion kills a human being, don't you?
@@mathildeyoung1823 It can be, but that word is primary associated with infants, and "unborn child" is a misnomer.
Abortion kills a mindless clump of cells that could potentially develop into a child.
@@Anvilman Look up the definition of "unborn" in a dictionary or two. Odds are the definition has VALID examples of the use of the word "unborn" that includes "unborn child", "unborn children" or "unborn baby". "Unborn" means "not yet born" so the term "unborn child" is a valid synonym for all the stages in the life of a human being before birth.
If an unborn child is a "clump of cells" then so are you...
A baby could potentially develop into a toddler... So what? there are many stages in the life of a human being. Just as a human being shouldn't be killed based on their skin color or religion they shouldn't be killed based on their level of development. Please study up on fetal development.
Just watched the Handmaid's Tale, where in the before-Gilead times they showed one of the characters seek an abortion and accidentally go into a CPC. And it's absolutely chilling to see it in the context of that story, because Gilead looks like such a logical and seamless transition from the bs pushed by CPC...
As an EU man it's irrational to me how this shit is legal in a country pretending to be the most developed and progressive in the world.
iliden strmrege it's because any time you try to criticize America, you're called anti-American. I've been called an anarchist a few times (I'm not, I promise).
AS AN EU MAN you do not have the constitutional right to free speech.. you have silly hate speech laws.. so you might not be able to understand that here.. in the US.. even though we may find this stuff disgusting we cannot BAN SPEECH.. you must educate people not ban speech we don't like.. but as an EU man you live in a place where GMOs are banned.. so take your anti science back across the pond and save your judgements for your own governments lol
teamSAF bmx there’s a difference between banning speech and literally TRICKING PEOPLE AS A LEGAL BUSINESS.
team SAF
You idiot, free speech is a human right, which is acknowledged and enforced by the EU.
edit: I just discovered, that the US didn't even signed the American Convention of human rights!
Explains their inhuman attitude and death penalty.
teamSAF bmx Jesus fucking Christ put things in context, with the recent history in Europe, having laws to regulate speech makes sense! If the local neo-nazis and their friends want to open their mouth, they'll be able to do it, but there'll just be a limit drawn when it comes to hate speech. You know, to keep things civil and all. Besides, European countries tend to have a proper education system, where you get not only to learn but build your own informed opinion about various extremisms and how they are shitty enough to justify a regulation of speech.
As for GMOs, heck yeah between that and the bullshit sold by Monsanto, we'd rather have regulations and not be poisoned and end up with sterile soils.
See? This is the difference between a supposedly developped country allowing some people to freely scare women and lie to them for the sake of their personal agenda, and countries where decisions that actually make sense in the bigger context are taken.
That's also the difference between US-the State can't regulate shit-A and Eu-laws are here to regulate shit-rope.
So yeah, places like that aren't better than sects, and are worthy of a ban because the people working there consciously endanger people under a pseudo-helpful disguise and don't give a shit about the consequences of their actions.
As a Christian, this deeply disgusts me. My church helps out with one of these centers.... I thought they helped with abortion funding if the women chose it. I am furious
But as a church they should not if they have to but like oliver said some of them may be good. The purposes of the centers would to stop women from having abortions.
gogo kingpants im going to look into it myself. I want to know if they actually help women, regardless of thier choice
Why would they help with funding abortion? That's literally the exact opposite of helping a pregnancy.
Cuddle Buns go for it. Make Christianity Great Again!
Why is a problem for them to not offer/pay for abortion? There are other clinics that offer abortion but not ultrasounds or prenatal care. Not every clinic offers every type of care. Planned Parenthood doesn't- the services they offer vary greatly by location.
As long as they are giving accurate information, unlike the ones in this video, what's the problem? Check into you local clinic and see what type of information and services they offer. Just because they may not offer abortion does not make them evil. The clinic my former church works with has medical doctors and RNs on staff and offers ultrasounds, pregnancy tests, prenatal care, post natal care, and vaccinations. They provide extensive care for mother and child until the child is 4 months, including a free living situation, if need be. After 4 months, if they still need help, they are referred to a partner organization, which gives women help with groceries, childcare, housing, and employment options. I don't think it's right to demonize all pregnancy clinics that don't offer abortion. Let's focus on the ones that manipulate or take advantage of people.
"condoms are 20% ineffective"
So they're effective 80% of the time.
15:29 I love how you can hear the confusion and outrage from the audience
Yeah I went into one of these things years ago when I had a pregnancy scare in college. I knew something was up pretty quickly, because there were some really strange questions on the form they gave me (it looked like a medical intake form but had questions on it concerning religious affiliation and where I went to church.) When someone came to talk to me and started asking me questions about the would be father (had I been pregnant, wasn't, thank goodness) and talking about how great motherhood could be, I noped out of there so fast and got a pregnancy test at the health department. I needed legitimate support, not bull shit peer pressure.
Good for you... Geez.
Then don't have sex if you're not ready to be a parent.
@@rebeccajennings1316 Oh bless your heart.
@@elrilmoonweaver4723 Not sure what you're trying to say. But back at ya?
@@thealrightygina5725 yes I am very blessed thank you.
Whether you are pro-choice or pro-life I really think we should be on the same page that people without medical training shouldn't be preforming medical procedures. I also think we should be on the same page that misinformation shouldn't be given in order to sway someones choice.
Agreed. Anything calling itself a pregnancy clinic should be registered as a medical centre before it can even be established, ultrasounds should only be performed by licensed medical professionals, and anyone who knowingly spreads misinformation as part of an agenda should be charged with fraud.
Matthew St. Cyr I can't like this comment ENOUGH!
celticquestful and I can't like your reply enough, both for the (I'm guessing) enthusiasm, and the fact that your CZcams name is celticquestful (I'm a history nut, and I find the Ancient Celts very fascinating).
Payton Benoit but PP dishes out misinformation all the time and takes government funding. These crisis centers are actually very informative and offer contraception, just not abortions. They don’t get much in the way of funding at all and have to fund raise bi-annually to keep operating, meaning it’s mostly volunteer. PP and Crisis Centers are hard to compare because the later is much more honest than the former.
Chris Schroeder- Payton Benoit didn't say anything about CPCs vs PP, and even if he did, did you not watch the video? If your CPC is actually honest and legitimate, then good for you. But don't use it as an excuse for generalization, or for a whataboutism that will accomplish nothing. This isn't about PP vs CPCs; this is about predatory tactics, spread of harmful misinformation, and medical procedures being done irresponsibly by people who aren't medical professionals; all of which these particular CPCs that were featured in the video are evidently guilty of doing.
If there are PPs that are guilty of the same thing, then make your own CZcams video about it. Don't try to derail Payton Benoit's comment.
These people are disgusting. Abortion isn't something that most women do lightly and the emotional manipulation is shocking and disturbing.
Abortion is disgusting. And yes many are done lightly. Otherwise there wouldn't be nearly as many of them as women would TRY, TRY and TRY to save the life of their unborn child. We'd hear stories from women saying "I went to the adoption agency but they said they wouldn't take my baby when they were born. I wanted to try to find my baby a loving home at birth because I cannot afford a child but they won't help me" - nope, doesn't happen because in most cases abortion is an easy "it's all about me, me, me, OH and me!" decision.
@Zuma Zuma How dare they kill their unborn son or daughter - a human being they and their partner created. Abortion kills a human being - it needs to be illegal. People need to be responsible for their offspring.
@Zuma Zuma No it's not. Is killing your born child if you don't want them being "responsible"? Killing a child, born or unborn, has the same main result - i.e. a young human being is denied a chance at a full and productive life.
@@mathildeyoung1823 abortion DOES NOT KILL A HUMAN BEING, because it’s a FOETUS. An unborn baby cannot think, has no response to stimuli and it can neither have emotions nor have any consciousness; it is scientifically proven that foetuses are not babies. Stop comparing them to a full fledged human persons
@@ksasidhar2980 Your first sentence is like saying "infanticides DOES NOT KILL A HUMAN BEING, because it's a BABY." A human baby and a human fetus are BOTH members of our species - i.e. BOTH human beings.
A newborn baby cannot walk, talk or do math. A human being is not done developing until adulthood (around age 25). There are differences in all the stages of the life of a human being. None of those differences justify killing.
Science clearly tells us the life of a new human being starts at fertilization. e.g.
Dr. Alfred M. Bongiovanni, professor of pediatrics and obstetrics at the University of Pennsylvania:
“I have learned from my earliest medical education that human life begins at the time of conception.... I submit that human life is present throughout this entire sequence from conception to adulthood and that any interruption at any point throughout this time constitutes a termination of human life.... I am no more prepared to say that these early stages of development in the womb represent an incomplete human being than I would be to say that the child prior to the dramatic effects of puberty...is not a human being. This is human life at every stage.”
Dr. Jerome LeJeune, professor of genetics at the University of Descartes in Paris, who discovered the chromosome pattern of Down syndrome: “after fertilization has taken place a new human being has come into being.” He stated that this “is no longer a matter of taste or opinion,” and “not a metaphysical contention, it is plain experimental evidence.” He added, “Each individual has a very neat beginning, at conception.”
Abortion kills a human being.
I tried to like this videos 7 times. CZcams needs to create a super like option for John Oliver!
In France, we recently passed a law, which condemn misinformation about abortion. It has for example led to the closure of several anti-abortion websites, which presented themselves as "information site about abortion". This law is active and prevent things such as CPCs.
xaveronf France also has much stricter laws on abortion than America does
I didn't want to mean things like "France is awesome !" (i just don't care), I just wanted to say that law can prevent CPCs, and that it has already be done elsewhere.
xaveronf that law cannot and does not prevent cpc's or Pregnancy Resource Centers from popping up. You seem to think that all Pregnancy Resource Centers, or at least most of them, give misinformation about abortion, and that's simply not true.
Well, I was imprecise, sorry. It does more than just condemn intentionnal misinformation. I will 'quote' the (short) text itself. (sorry for the translation, made it myself - with some simplifications)
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I may be wrong, but I think it makes immediately illegal all what we saw on this Last Week Tonight. No?
several anti-abortion websites that presented themselves as neutral, claimed false facts about the medical procedure and its consequences, presented false testimonies, never gave contact of abortion clinics and exerted moral pressure on any woman who contacted them. I have a problem with that, not with people who don't agree with me.
You should park outside CPCs and give women accurate information.
And pepper spray, they need a bit more than accurate info to defend themselves against these manipulative fucks
How do you feel about gun control? I am feel we need more controls to limit the ability to kill innocents with guns and advocate for such. However, I just found out that according to the CDC there are 120 abortions for every 1000 live births. If we limit guns don’t we need to limit abortion?
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Yeah, like you might have a depression after an abortion!
@@cccampbe2, I think that every liberal in the country would consent instantly to a law that made guns as heavily restricted as abortions. No federal money toward guns, guns can only be sold if their hallways are wide enough for two gurnies to pass each other without slowing down, mandatory counseling before buying a gun, limits on what kinds of guns are sold, the gun seller being required by law to try to talk you out of buying a gun by telling you lies that the government provided, teachers may not mention or may not speak positively regarding guns in schools...
Abortion is far more heavily restricted than guns in the US.
So what I am getting from this is prank call CPCs and waist their time. Good plan?
These places are legitimate scams...should be a million court cases against them.
I am baffled that people in America are allowed to say so many bullshit in such important matters! That woman talking about 20% ineffectiveness of condoms should be in jail.
There's a lot of stupid people people in this country. It's what happens when you repeatedly cut funding towards education, though it's going all according to plan for one side.
That’s not how jail works lol
but should condom manufactures not be able to sue them?
"That's not how jail works" something that didn't come up that I'd be interested in hearing about is whether or not anyone in these clinics has medical training of any kind. It would seem that there could be some kind of medical malpractice suit. But I'm sure John's research team looked into that.
You can't really get thrown in jail here for lying unless you are taking someone's money or life, something valuable. I mean to be honest, what beavers said should bury her enough if we shine enough light on her, but we have fringe groups here for a reasons and that's because we strongly believe in the first amendment. If a few retarded idiots band together and go full blown WBC on us, then let them behave and then be ridiculed for it as opposed to making the government allowed to decide, when you are lying and that you should be punished for every lie. We accept the existence of these groups to maintain our own rights, simple as that.
Forcing people to have children; do you really think it's a good idea to have parents take care of children who don't even want them or even are prepared for them? People are already fucked enough; imagine the emotions that would effect both the parents and the children.
Jo King they’re too stupid to understand :(
Completely agree. I tried to explain that to the police when I smashed my 2 year old in the head the other day with a large rock; just not ready for it
My mom didn't want me but I'm glad I wasn't murder for it
plus this rule doesn't seem to apply to men if he wants to are not their going to force him to rise the child in so cases even if its not his
Jo King sex has a specific biological purpose dude. TO MAKE BABIES. The grand majority of people out here need to at least develop some pull out strategy before they bump uglies. But naw, instead they’re getting pregnant and adding themselves to a dilemma that’s splitting this country apart.
"Women are meant to protect and guard and die for their babies."
*Casey Anthony has entered the chat*
This hits different in 2022
I think this needs the most American answer: sue them for child support money
Jan Sten Adámek So true!
Real Talk. I want (need) a Wildlife Documentary series narrated by a sassy John Oliver titled "Johnny O.'s Nature Facts".
This might come quite near to what you desire :D Have fun
czcams.com/video/gNqQL-1gZF8/video.html
He's the next David Attenborough :D
John gets his chance when SIR David Attenborough dies...
“Strange Wilderness” is a close second.
DeadPengwin Thank you! A new series to wish there were more of. :P
Maybe, just maybe, if you have to completely lie about the purpose of your business and actively try and trick people into going to you to get business, maybe you're the bad guy in this scenario
This has just come up on season 4 of the handmaid's tale.