Oddity Archive: Episode 245.5 - Ben’s Junk: Tyler Portable TV (Model TTV701-7)
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- čas přidán 10. 07. 2024
- Hope you like fussy, fidgety, unintuitive setups…and 45-minute Ben’s Junks.
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0:21 - Intro
6:04 - Parts & Accessories
13:56 - An ASMR Moment
14:35 - Intro to Channel Scan
16:51 - Channel Scan (semi-failed)
22:05 - Channel Scan Redux/Results
24:25 - Aspect Ratio Adjustment
26:00 - Miscellaneous
28:05 - FM Radio Scan
31:33 - HDMI Test
37:04 - AV Test (Input)
39:47 - USB Test
43:36 - Daisy Chain Fail/Outro
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1. Daisy chain test: The AV OUT jack is only for use on Analog TV and Composite video sources. Got another 1/8"-to-Composite/Stereo female adapter cord. The factory bungled the cord and the picture was scrambled. Tried all potential permutations of hooking up that cable (Yellow -> White, etc.) and got no results whatsoever. Any definitive outcome on that particular test (as of the upload date) is on ice. EDIT #2: Got a second adapter-different brand, same results-no setting options in menu. I’m calling the AV OUT garbage.
2. Firmware: The Tyler website makes no mention whatsoever of any kind of downloadable updates. As it stands, the "Software Update" option simply exists with no particular use that I can find.
3. FM Tuning: The user manual implies that manual tuning on the FM Radio can only be done via the remote. I have had no such luck.
3.5. The tuner keeps trying to add presets to frequencies that are one "stop" off from the actual station...and misses the actual station entirely (ex. adding a
preset for 98.5 when the station broadcasts on 98.7--and adding no preset for 98.7).
4. Antennas: The "suction cup" antennas are actually magnetic.
5. I'm convinced this monitor is the same one used on some cheap dashcams.
Gotta wonder if the RCA adapter has the same quirk as (or a similar one to) some Samsung TV adapters where what would normally be composite on a camcorder adapter is actually ground so no matter how you rearrange it, it just doesn't work.
I "borrowed" one of those back when I was working at Walmart and toying with the idea of going to school to be an EE, found pretty quick that it didn't work with my Sony camcorder, did some tests with a continuity meter, and found the pinout is entirely proprietary.
It could also be a funky arrangement with the actual plug (or maybe it is a firmware issue, tough to say).
Wasn’t expecting it to turn into Oddity Archive: After Dark at 12:50 but here we are.
Are we still doing phrasing?
@@vspot713 “BEN! PHRASING!”
I knew someone was gonna point that part out.
@@OddityArchive 4:39 sounds a lot more risqué than 12:50.
I don't know why but your parents buying you the portable television and you hanging onto it for so long is very cute
Because I continued to use it for so long that it just became a part of my everyday gear.
1:16 1:18 1:19 1:20 ❤
20:25 Well put. Every time I set up a new TV or antenna for local channels, I always start out finding mindless garbage.
43:11 "Welcome to Spotlite Theaters, where Oddity Archive is the star."
Most people spend time & money restoring old cars or furniture, but Benny does his best in making obsolete video equipment functional.
Keep on pluggin', Benny-boy! 😄
Even though edited and unusual for you, I enjoyed this long form video for a great reason...
Your thought processes are very much like mine, and you meet disappointments with the same thing I call "Charlie Brown's downward-looking optimism".
Besides I never owned any of those tiny TVs.
Thanx, Ben!!!!
Tyler is an importer that does include more accessories and documentation than any other of these portable tv’s. These are made by Changhong, a company that started in 1959.
Rifftraxx has the most catchyest theme song ever. I love it.
After seeing how much trouble you had with this mini TV, I myself miss the old analog days when a portable TV with batteries could get the job done. No headaches, no troubles, just turn on the old reliable portable analog TV and watch until the batteries were completely drained.
I had a converter box after the switchover, but now I can't find it, and I do most of my TV watching on the computer.
I think you lived close to broadcasters . Old ones were glitchy too
I'm very envious of your "Two Lane Blacktop" DVD. Great movie!
Defy is actually a channel that shows old reality shows from the A&E networks. The Ch. 44 that you picked up is likely KPTH-TV in Sioux City, IA. What other TV channels did you pick up? There could have been some tropospheric ducting going on.
I think it was (save for one repeater) all in town.
You are right. It looks like he immediately almost caught KPTH, another 90 miles south of the HQ.
The problem with the HDMI is that the tv don't like or support 23,97 Hertz signal force by the BD. Use a digital tv tuner or computer for 29,97 (DVD), 60i or 60p.
Modern HDMI TVs do there own 4:3 pulldown and it's done by the compression of the disc for DVDs (24hz to 60i).
"...Hope you like fussy, fidgety, unintuitive setups…and 45-minute Ben’s Junks." Yep on all counts. Son-of-a-gun, I'm in!
About 2 years ago our local NBC affiliate with TV was on generator power the problem is our local NBC affiliate also owns ABC affiliate.
Most television have a backup generator
You are so lucky, because my local ABC station has so much technical failure nowadays.
I wonder if the issue with HDMI spazzing out is due to 24p signal of the movie. DVD was probably 29,97 or 23whateveryouhavethereintheUS and it liked it more I think. Also in the player's menu the signal looked fine.
Worth a shot. I suppose I should check something with a 29.97 frame rate as opposed to the 24fps of that movie.
Yup, what they said.
The camp Lejeune ads have been on over in my area as well (British columbia, i get KVOS-TV-12 from Bellingham, Washington) There must've been one pissed off recruit who's trying to get back at his drill sergeant by getting all the U.S. to sue him!
That’s a whole lotta stuff!
I thought id come back and share what I learned. You can just plug a TV tuner into the USB C slot of a phone or tablet. (Mygica TV Tuner)
To use a tablet as a TV moniter, You can plug a HDMI to USB C adapter into a tablet or phone, and then a RCA to HDMI converter into that. These adapters simply shows up as a camera input, like a webcam and tada!
I wonder if the generic RCA to USB adapters are using the same camera protocol? Maybe they would work with a USB A to C adapter? (one adapter instead if the two together)
The combined A/V connector going to RCA-type sockets is for A/V out from the TV, for A/V in to the TV to use it as a monitor, the RCA connectors would be *plugs.*
Ah yes, the portable digital TV rabbit hole. I’ve gone down it before, partially for similar reasons, partially due to not wanting to waste valuable space on a TV I’m just not going to use very often.
My main experiences with portable digital TV were with a portable DVD player with a built in ATSC tuner and with a USB dongle for an Android device. The DVD player had dreadful battery life, so it wouldn’t be very good in an emergency situation, but it could be nice for field-testing media in thrift stores. The USB based tuner was only compatible with Android devices that supported USB On-The-Go, but I had one lying around. It does drain the battery more than standard usage, but the battery life was dramatically better than the DVD player.
As an emergency power tip for USB rechargeable devices, you might invest in a USB power bank with a built-in solar charger. They’re not super effective indoors (they charge best outdoors in direct sunlight), but they can probably charge the relevant sort of Android device to full charge one and a half to three times. And they’re probably still more portable than this TV is.
The USB port on this is mainly to play back video files from a thumb drive. One thing they should have done is had a secondary USB port for charging only as this would have made it possible to keep it charged up by using a USB power bank, or a solar charger.
You should also buy a SSB (single sideband) capable shortwave radio (Tecsun PL-330, Eton Elite Executive, CCrane skywave SSB 2) . Simply because you can listen to AM/MW, FM, Shortwave, amateur Ham radio, CB, and the battery life will last a while.
Last year when hurricane Ian hit Florida the Ham operators was communicating information, weather reports, and other information.
As DankPods would say, "The manual is devoid of pretty pictures".
@20:20 On behalf of the entire country of the Netherlands, I would like to apologise for John de Mol and his 'invention' of Big Brother. It's really really terrible.
The same is true for 'The Voice', it got cancelled over here (a lot of bad stuff happend at the show).
Those TRRS to RCA cables are a pain in the butt. It'd be nice if there was a portable TV like this with separate audio and video AV inputs i.e. RCA for composite video and 3.5mm for audio.
Thank you for going there with the fart line, i needed the laugh. I'm immature get over it
Happy Oddity Thursday and September. Fall is almost here which means no more hot weather soon. :)
He said if he's going to get stuck with a 7-in LOL
@@TombstoneChris Yeah, for me Florida was hot like over 100 degrees. I would like to trade places like so he don't deal being cold lol. kind of weird like how states have different climates.
I was really hoping this would work great. So much trouble with this bad boy. And yes, Court TV is now over the air. Cool to have in a pinch, especially where you live, but really goofy in how you use it.
Isn't that because Court-TV became something like TRU-TV and it's just all Impractical Jokers at this point? I got advertisements for that, but my digital tuner never picked it up, not that I wanted it necessarily.
@@mightyfilm no it seems to ve the same. Still mad they took Decades for it though.
I wish I were stuck with a seven incher.
I love my little Tyler tv. The antenna you say are plastic are magnets. One to stick on your car top, the other to stick onto your metal window frame. I scanned for channels and got more on it than I did on my TV. I use mine in my art studio. Antennas work great! Don't know why you're having a problem with them.
I just bought the TTV704-9. It's "ok". But just. The picture quality is BAD. I can tweak it to be viewable. I'm glad this is a "storm" TV. I have a 12V car battery and a preamp for my outdoor antenna, and then this TV. I have a Vizio VMB070 that has WAY better over all quality. But the lack of tint, and poor volume level kills it. I have one of the Smartphone tuners too. But it's not very good either.
Do you have most of the inputs and outputs
Like there is a aux ports for AV in, AV out, USB, HDMI, DC 12V but there is no SD Card slot
LOL 9 over the air channels? We had TWO when I was a kid and when we got cable we had 12. One of them was the local station that broadcast text only local bulletins.
12:05 ben do you happen to have a raspberry pi and a male to male trrs cable? i would be curious to see you use that to connect a Pi like a 3B+ running XBMC to this panel, likewise Retropie with it set to output 240p (love to see what it thinks of that raw analogue signal, good test of the tuner).
I still they're still making those awful corporate noodle-arm-style animated commercials (see Solar Sands' video "Why do Corporate Art Styles Feel Fake?"). Just another reason why I don't watch much TV...
I know that there are at least a few different flavors of the 1/8" TRRS to 3-RCA (composite + stereo audio) adaptor cables. The more common ones used in a variety of Sony camcorders are incompatible with the A/V inputs or outputs on some devices such as cable boxes and LCD monitors/tvs in the way they're wired up internally. If you heard a buzz on your PVM, then that's likely caused by a video signal being fed to the monitor's audio inputs or ground. I've been able to make the "camcorder" cables work on such devices by shorting the yellow jack's positive and negative contacts, then connecting either the red or white (can't recall right now) to the monitor's video input. If you're up for it, try sticking a wire or a piece of tin foil between the contacts on the yellow jack and see what happens. If still nothing, try it again but shorting the white jack instead (thus connecting red or yellow to monitor).
I wish I knew where “Tyler” got their breakout cable from, then I’d just get a second one of those.
What you are saying about radio stations getting knocked out is that the radio stations transmitter where the signal gotten from is damaged and so that means radio station is off the airwaves
This is a best review for Tyler 7" TV. I just ordered on Amazon, still on its way to my house. Just like you, my purpose for this little TV is for use when bad weather or power outages.
After viewing for review... I think this little 7"TV is under my estimate! I wish I found your channel sooner so I don't have to order it.
Anyway thanks for your time to make up this review, it's very helpful for those who shops for a small TV in case of emergency situations.
Thumbs up.
If you connect your blu-ray player via the same A/V connection as that DVD player, your Blu-ray player will "behave" itself as it should.
Mine only have HDMI out.
I have two weather radios. Because I live in the middle of two weather stations
South Bend Indiana and Angola Indiana. But I don't live in near don't live in Indiana I live in Michigan so yeah I have two weather radios just to keep me safe one West to me and one east of me I'm kind of in the middle
Try a different HDMI cable with the Blu-ray player, I’ve had that problem on my big TV. Some equipment just doesn’t play well with some cables.
You are lucky. I can get only four over the air digital channels here and they are all PBS.
Nothing wrong with binge watching odd squad lol
It's a shame everything like this is built so shoddily now.
Service manual and schematic. Right to repair compliant!!
I have a shoe box of adapters and wires if I need them for something I do. Most of them are still in their box
I have a digital box in the kitchen, and I don't get quite as many of those digital television stations as you've seemed to get. I've only found out about QUEST yesterday when I was at a hotel room a couple states up. From the minute I've seen of it, it looks like it's a dime store Discovery channel knockoff (more dime store than actual Discovery). And does your local COZI TV randomly have what I can only describe as telephone dials every 12 minutes? Mine does, even on the cable feed, and it's as mysterious and weird as it is annoying.
I very rarely watch, but no noises as far as I recall.
Im guessing the telephone dials are a signal that goes to the station to tell the switcher to go to local break. That’s what I think as a former master control guy.
The one difference I saw is that when it was OK, it was in 60hz mode, but the bluray was in 24hz mode, and maybe it's having trouble with that mode. The data rate of the media shouldn't matter over HDMI, it's already decoded and sending full uncompressed video frames regardless.
My stuff has that same problem when the frame rate changes. You should try unplugging the cable or switch inputs and back again and see if that helps. Likely another HDMI cable will work better.
I love mine, just wish it had a power source.
If I could find something like this that would tune both PAL and NTSC, it would be a great testing tool for old AV-gear.
I did see the screen flash PAL during the AV OUT tests, so it might, but I didn’t see anything that’d let me switch around in the settings.
It likely will take a 50hz HDMI signal, but no telling what the analog input will do. My LG TV takes 50hz on HDMI but analog comes in scrambled. All my sources go through my receiver and output HDMI so I can watch my analog PAL equipment fine.
14:06 😂😂😂😂
what format is that USB drive?
I was using an exFAT-formatted flash drive.
Hdcp handshake issue with bluray perhaps?
You are lucky you can get any terrestrial digital television signals where you live. Here on northern Vancouver Island, to the best of my knowledge, we can only get one terrestrial television signal, and it is only analogue.
13:56 - ＰＥＥＬ ＩＴ ＳＬＯＷＥＲ
Hey, my name is Tyler. 😲
tv is smarter than the operator here with this one
In that case, it's smarter than 95% of its users.
Got any other egotistical pearls to share?
Sorry, I love giving people shit, you kept hitting the volume button to go up and down when they are marked with left and right arrows. Also idk what the problem with storage is, it doesn't take up that much space, but I hoard CRTs so my opinion is invalid lol.
The USB adapter wouldn't have done you any good anyway - those things are basically low-end display adapters, intended to go from a computer to a video device. It doesn't work the other way.
They make dongles to plug into an android phone to turn it into a portable tv
If I'm going to get stuck with a 7-in that's what she said
Tiene tdt ???
Tonight on Wings! Ah, who cares?
hdmi issue is most likely caused by hdcp or resolution
Techmon try to Portable television it really didn't work.
I wonder if he tested portable digital TV with an antenna in a vertical orientation? The main UK transmitters are horizontally polarised so you need your antenna to be horizontally oriented too. I live 50km away from the strongest transmitter so according to all the commentators, their theory suggests that portable digital TV should be impossible. Right? Yet with a cheap £2 "rabbit ears" antenna I bought from a nationwide discount store set in a horizontal orientation, I picked up all the Freeview multiplexes, including the weak (now closed) COM7 multiplex. I also got everything with a cheap tabletop Labgear antenna from the 1990s that I bought off the market. Portable digital TV can work even in distant signal areas but you need to be aware of antenna orientation.
Lady looks crazy in the profile pic
Why does Ben cover his face?
I pity the fool who buys such thing and not ne of these that have in addition HDMI and/or VGA in....
OK Mr T
After watching to the end, ya you're a little complainer. I'm just happy they shoved service documents in the box, NOBODY is doing that. Also there is absolutely no standard for composite to 3.5mm.
Yes, I was devastated to find a service manual.
31:00 Station KELO, a *talk* station on FM? *WHAT A DISGUSTING WASTE OF THE BAND!* FM is supposed to be for high quality MUSIC broadcasting!
I don't disagree.
Sacramento’s main talk station moved to FM but they actually turned off the stereo signal.
@@TheMediaHoarder Then they should've stayed put on AM.
Good lord you talk a lot
Sorry, Ben, not the best video you have ever done. Too long winded and the picture looked liked it was in negative form. I had to skip a lot of this video to make it watchable for me. Oh well. Thanks anyway.
Nobody ever said it was gonna be on anyone's "best-of" list (certainly not mine). It was only long-winded because that's how long it took to set up and test the TV--and I cut a good amount out.
Why critique a Ben's Junk? Thru are always more or less like this and we love it! Why critique a video at all?
Also I found your comment long winded and not one of your best comments.
@@OddityArchive Fair enough. Just my opinion. I loved you older content from your first video to about 2017, and I love your thrifting videos (which in my eye are the best thrifting videos of anyone's.) But, I dunno, it seems to of petered off somewhere. It must be me I guess. I mean, dont get me wrong ,I still watch a lot of your newer content, but nowhere near as much as I used to. You videos from 2012-2015 were amazing and I love them even to this day. Where's Serge when we need him!
@@nazznomad Good I am really glad about that, thanks for the review, Nazz. It is a joy that you have read it. And we are all entitled to an opinion. I am glad I got yours. But, I am too old to change now, so I will stick with what I am used to writing. But, I did find your comment enlightening.
@@yogibear2k220 The clue is in the name of the series.