EUROVISION 2018 // OLD STYLE VOTING PT. 3/3

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  • @dramaticScar
    @dramaticScar Před 6 lety +39

    I like this because of Ireland ... but it would be boring because of the gap between cyprus and Israel...

  • @greenhermit3773
    @greenhermit3773 Před 6 lety +93

    It would be a very boring voting! I prefer the new one actually

  • @sadrgbzdhxjyugfcsh
    @sadrgbzdhxjyugfcsh Před 6 lety +34

    The winner was clear very early, but it was exciting to see the unstopable race for top 10! So narrow results! France, Sweden, Ireland and suddenly with few good votes Moldova is in, the next vote even Denmark got top 9! And Austria constantly trying to catch up with Germany but falling just a bit short!

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  • @eurovisionestonia
    @eurovisionestonia Před 6 lety +56

    So we would have been 6th? Nice

    • @user-ne1xy3mh4n
      @user-ne1xy3mh4n Před 4 lety +2

      You are my winner ;D
      Estonia should have been at least in top 5

  • @Liiiiiooon
    @Liiiiiooon Před 6 lety +64

    Germany would have been 3rd! :O

    • @nilerra8181
      @nilerra8181 Před 6 lety +9

      It was obvious. It had more consensus than Austria :)
      Current system Germany is only 2 points behind so xD

    • @NiagaraEurovision
      @NiagaraEurovision Před 6 lety +7

      And France 10th !

    • @nilerra8181
      @nilerra8181 Před 6 lety

      Niagara Eurovision
      Will you make the simulation by rank system (2013)? :) It would change from 11th below I guess

    • @NiagaraEurovision
      @NiagaraEurovision Před 6 lety

      nil erra Yes of course, in the next weeks (I think in June) :)

    • @lsta8088
      @lsta8088 Před 5 lety

      So mad that it isnt used anymore lol

  • @GergoMarosvari
    @GergoMarosvari Před 6 lety +16

    Hungary 12 from Poland! :)
    That's why we love Poland as our brother country!

  • @asi183
    @asi183 Před 6 lety +28

    I'm from Israel and we had a great song but Cyprus song and performance was better and if not we then they deserved the 1 place

  • @s.m.a8182
    @s.m.a8182 Před 6 lety +13

    I'm from israel, the new voting system was nerve wrecking and when we won everyone exploded from the reaction so i prefer the new voting system much more.

  • @lionellebouc503
    @lionellebouc503 Před 6 lety +40

    France would have done a top 10 !!!!!

  • @ddraven3180
    @ddraven3180 Před 6 lety +27

    Much better, Sweden and Italy lower, C.Republic one higher, Germany top 3, France top 10... All I dislike, is Albania, Lithuania and Denmark being lower and the cancer from Norway being above Albania and Lithuania

    • @dramaticScar
      @dramaticScar Před 6 lety

      DDRaven Cancer... I hate it too ??? Expand on why you hate it please

    • @alexk.2332
      @alexk.2332 Před 4 lety

      Yes, I agree with you. Lithuania was my winner and the "Cancer" 😁😁 from Norway wasn't even a qualify for me (even in 2009, Yohanna should have won) and the craziest thing is that Lithuania came in juries 11th and it televoting 10th, HOW TF SHE CAME 14TH OVERALL???
      Edit: Now I understand why Lithuania came 14th after seeing by how many countries it has been voted!!! And with the old voting system It wouldn't have been QUALIFIED either!! THANK GOD NEW VOTING SYSTEM

  • @andresgigante
    @andresgigante Před 6 lety +24

    Spain the last one!!! WHAAAAT?

    • @escrodrigo2154
      @escrodrigo2154 Před 6 lety +5

      Andrés Gigante Simarro The most underrated of Eurovision 2018

    • @andresgigante
      @andresgigante Před 6 lety +1

      I think so, but the stage wasn't good. However, I LOVE THEM

    •  Před 6 lety +7

      Andrés Gigante Simarro Dos espa.oles hablando en inglés entre ellos, no tiene nada de malo, pero es raro

    • @andresgigante
      @andresgigante Před 6 lety +1

      oigreS el al revés Tienes razon, jajajaja. No me había fijado si era español o no y como me ha contestado en inglés pues yo también lo he hecho 😂😂😂😂

    • @escrodrigo2154
      @escrodrigo2154 Před 6 lety

      Verdad 😂😂😂

  • @Tarkris
    @Tarkris Před 6 lety +3

    I like the final standings here so much more than by the new method!!

  • @davidj8860
    @davidj8860 Před 6 lety +4

    Hi Tommy, just like last year it has become a beautiful video again, my compliments. But just like last year, there are unfortunately also a few mistakes crept into.
    For example, according to this system, the 5 points from Portugal go to France and not to Sweden, this makes the difference between places 9 and 10
    furthermore you have changed places a few times:
    in Austria the 2 and 3 to Sweden and the Netherlands.
    In Azerbaijan the 1 and 2 to Albania and Hungary
    in Czech Republic the 6 and 7 to Estonia and Austria
    also in Czechia 1 and 2 to Hungary and Sweden
    in Denmark 7 and 8 to Australia and Sweden
    and in Israel 3, 4 and 5 to Finland, UK and Denmark.
    Furthermore, there is discussion about the points of San Marino, since San Marino does not have its own televoting, but an average of a number of other countries. in the old System San Marino would have 100% professional jury
    To correct all this, you would get this:
    1 Israel 336
    2 Cyprus 265
    3 Germany 216
    4 Austria 211
    5 Estonia 151
    5 Czech Republic 151
    7 Italy 144
    8 Moldova 103
    9 France 99
    9 Sweden 99
    11 Ireland 88
    12 Denmark 84
    13 Norway 75
    14 Lithuania 72
    15 Albania 70
    16 Bulgaria 69
    17 The Netherlands 51
    18 Serbia 37
    19 Ukraine 36
    20 Australia 34
    21 Hungary 23
    22 Portugal 20
    22 Slovenia 20
    24 Finland 16
    25 United Kingdom 13
    26 Spain 11

  • @jsra54
    @jsra54 Před 6 lety

    I love these videos. I so prefer this old system than the actual one. Even if the voting is now more exciting in some way, the old system was more fair.

  • @leahfield8612
    @leahfield8612 Před 6 lety +8

    OMG this system is so much better! All my favorites - Germany, Czech Republic, France, Ireland, Portugal and Finland - would have been better! Plus Sweden lower (not about my personal taste but with 21 points from the public it doesn't deserve the 7th place)! Why did they have to change it? :((

    • @XandWacky
      @XandWacky Před 2 lety

      Because ultimately, the old voting system was boring and was exciting only if it was a close race. It was also mathematically inferior to today's voting. With a jury and a public voting, it makes sense to have the votes be split apart otherwise you end up with somewhat inaccurate results or even a different winner entirely because combining two votes into one with an average can create very wonky results.
      France would have won 2021 and Australia would have won 2016, but with all the points being counted, the rightful winner was crowned (at least according to the voters). Also super low ranked songs (as in near the bottom of the top 10) had a very low chance to get points at all because they had much worse averages.
      Believe me: I was all for returning to the old system when they announced this one. I was very anti-new voting system. However, after a few years of trial, I can safely say this one is a lot better. It's not like it changes a whole lot except for maybe a few placements (or a few extreme changes like Poland 2016). With all the points being added much more properly, the placings are far more accurate and everyone is getting the points they should be. Eurovision 2015 demonstrated perfectly why we needed a change. Take a look at how few points were given to 3/4 of the songs at the Grand Final. More than half barely scrapped by. The tenth place song got 53 points.
      Germany got 29 points collectively from both the public and jury, and Austria got 40 points from just the jury; however, their averages were so low that they didn't get a point while countries like the UK who would have finished last in 2015 but thanks to the old system and the UK averages being just high enough managed to get some table scraps and saved themselves the embarrassment of a second zero points (if only they knew).
      Think of it this way: the system of today is pretty much the exact same system as it was before, but now both a country's jury and public have their top 10s counted instead of being averaged together and kicking off other points. And the voting is much more exciting now! Sorry to go on this rant, but I thought I should explain my position as a former hater of the new system.

  • @javierhervas9524
    @javierhervas9524 Před 6 lety

    can you do the results in semi finals of the other years with the new sistem?

  • @andresgigante
    @andresgigante Před 5 lety

    Which program do you use, because it looks amazing

  • @ESCKosovo
    @ESCKosovo Před 5 lety

    Can some one tell me wher i can find the resulst for new system voting from 2015 2014 2013 etc.

  • @profitcollege
    @profitcollege Před 5 lety

    Genial últimos otro años más

  • @eurovisionsarah424
    @eurovisionsarah424 Před 4 lety +2

    Man that’s a conflict I’d love to see Germany in the top 3 but at the same time I’m happy that Italy placed 5th with the new one 🥺

  • @GeorgeAustinTay
    @GeorgeAustinTay Před 6 lety +6

    Poland's votes 💀 tasteful legends

    • @sam-ip4su
      @sam-ip4su Před 6 lety

      George Austin Tay aren’t they

  • @andreyd.17
    @andreyd.17 Před 6 lety

    Program?

  • @jacklinders7495
    @jacklinders7495 Před 6 lety

    Still weird spokesmen announce votes with phrase 'our country gives 12 ppints to..' while actually it is jury vote not televote

  • @Asidders
    @Asidders Před 6 lety +1

    The voting wouldn't exactly ahve been terribly exciting xD

  • @gainal9080
    @gainal9080 Před 2 lety

    So under the old system the 12 points would've been...
    Israel (13) - Ukraine, San Marino, Spain, Austria, UK, Sweden, Croatia, Czech Republic, Iceland, Moldova, France, Australia and Finland
    Germany (4) - The Netherlands, Denmark, Ireland and Switzerland
    Italy (4) - Malta, Albania, Serbia and Cyprus
    Estonia (3) - Georgia, Latvia and Portugal
    Cyprus (3) - Armenia, Greece and Slovenia
    Austria (3) - Norway, Bulgaria and Israel
    Denmark (2) - Italy and Hungary
    Serbia (2) - FYRM and Montenegro
    Moldova (2) - Romania and Russia
    Ukraine (1) - Azerbaijan
    Norway (1) - Belarus
    The Netherlands (1) - Belgium
    Lithuania (1) - Estonia
    Ireland (1) - Germany
    Hungary (1) - Poland
    France (1) - Lithuania

  • @igorszymonek3017
    @igorszymonek3017 Před 4 lety +1

    My top 5:
    1.Estonia🇪🇪
    2.Moldova🇲🇩
    3.Cyprus🇨🇾
    4.Azerbajian🇦🇿
    5.Poland🇵🇱

  • @in_wino_veritas
    @in_wino_veritas Před rokem

    I prefer those results over the RL ones, bc Spain finished dead last and bc Portugal isn't last anymore.

  • @arvantsaraihan5777
    @arvantsaraihan5777 Před 3 lety +1

    ew we're glad we're having the new one because i would never accept Czechia in the top 5 instead of Italy

  • @oberobercheckeresc1288
    @oberobercheckeresc1288 Před 6 lety +6

    🇩🇪⬅️1️⃣2️⃣➡️🇨🇮 👍😀

  • @vladd896
    @vladd896 Před 6 lety +2

    The only fact I liked here is Czechs in top 5 and Sweden with Austria lower ranked. Bulgaria is even more underrated this way. I send 3 or 4 sms for Bulgaria and 0 televoting points from Ukraine ?? That’s sad 😔

  • @NiagaraEurovision
    @NiagaraEurovision Před 5 lety +2

    Great job, but with this system, Portugal sends 5 points to France, not Sweden !

  • @musicc9281
    @musicc9281 Před 6 lety

    We would be 3rd damn.. just like the bookmakers have predicted!!!! They are good(sometimes)

  • @fotismpalopitas7196
    @fotismpalopitas7196 Před 5 lety +4

    Old system is better!

  • @aldinoibanezisidroahmed6233
    @aldinoibanezisidroahmed6233 Před 6 měsíci

    La vdd creo que con el sistema de votación España, Portugal y Finlandia hubiesen quedado más alto y Serbia, Slovenia y Reino Unido hubiesen quedado más bajos

  • @liamholton8937
    @liamholton8937 Před 5 lety

    Ireland would have been so close to Top 10!

  • @DavidShiel1
    @DavidShiel1 Před 5 lety

    So Ireland would have gone from 16th to 11th

  • @clemensh.4851
    @clemensh.4851 Před 6 lety

    we need a tutorial

  • @dora01abale
    @dora01abale Před 5 lety

    TOP 5 - 4 countries from SEMI FINAL 1.... Hmmm...

  • @manmanman8414
    @manmanman8414 Před 6 lety +2

    Cyprus 💛💛💛💛💛

  •  Před 6 lety +2

    I watched other video with a very different result

    • @Tarkris
      @Tarkris Před 6 lety +1

      oigreS el al revés because that was 2009 voting system!! this is 2013 system

  • @kazamafraz
    @kazamafraz Před 5 lety

    Lithuania 12 France?
    Poland 12 Hungary?
    Slovenia 12 Cyprus?
    These would’ve been way more surprising

    • @canaryesc6998
      @canaryesc6998 Před 5 lety

      poland and hungary voting eachother isnt a surprise

  • @Copyrightbreaker22
    @Copyrightbreaker22 Před 3 lety

    I still think it's a crime that baking trash won but heyvst least a good song won after it

  • @alexk.2332
    @alexk.2332 Před 4 lety

    The worst thing in this voting is that this masterpiece from Lithuania would have come 15. It was a clear winner for me!!!!? So robbed!!!!!!

  • @GeorgeAustinTay
    @GeorgeAustinTay Před 6 lety +1

    I hate how in the middle of the voting Sweden was 16th but then it leaped back to 9th place, either way these results are much better (mainly because Spain is last, and they reflect the televote a little bit more accurately).

  • @mar___111
    @mar___111 Před 4 lety +1

    Cyprus 2nd anyway

  • @vincentesc
    @vincentesc Před 3 lety

    This is so much better, France 10th, Czech Republic 5th ! Sweden always Well placed. Portugal not last, Finland higher, Spain last, Albania & Lithuania lower.
    Only bad things here are Slovenia & Bulgaria lower

    • @in_wino_veritas
      @in_wino_veritas Před rokem

      Yes, I like the fac5 that Portugal and Finland are placed higher and Spain is dead last.

  • @corny2774
    @corny2774 Před 6 lety +3

    Oh yes, bring back the old voting system or just introduce public voting only and leave out those juries!

  • @cedur2163
    @cedur2163 Před 4 lety

    german jury gives unanimous 12 points to sweden ... jury+public only 1 point

  • @solensol7782
    @solensol7782 Před 2 lety

    Thank god they changed the system, the old system was boring and complete trash, it never showed the real result.

  • @me-ee3rs
    @me-ee3rs Před 6 lety

    Old system is much better♥♥♥

  • @georgepls4483
    @georgepls4483 Před 5 lety

    I think the new system is more fair

  • @emredinc2484
    @emredinc2484 Před 6 lety +2

    I prefer the new one.

  • @dramaticScar
    @dramaticScar Před 6 lety

    Also my country wouldnt be last and spain would come last again

    • @in_wino_veritas
      @in_wino_veritas Před rokem

      Yes, I think, the old system was definitely more fair. And more reflective of quality, Portugal didn't deserve to become last and the Spanish song really sucked, they even put it in the infamous number 2 spot, yet it still didn't finish last.

  • @mustafakurnaz9103
    @mustafakurnaz9103 Před 6 lety +3

    I think it would be like this
    1. Israel 305
    2. Cyprus 249
    3. Austria 196
    4. Germany 176
    5. Italy 170
    6. Czech Republic 142
    7. Sweden 139
    8. Estonia 120
    9. Denmark 110
    10. Moldova 110
    11. Albania 92
    12. Lithuania 85
    13. Bulgaria 74
    14. Ukraine 72
    15. France 70
    16. Serbia 64
    17. Norway 63
    18. Ireland 56
    19. Netherlands 43
    20. Australia 38
    21. Hungary 32
    22. Spain 26
    23. Portugal 19
    24. Slovenia 16
    25. Finland 15
    26. United Kingdom 12

    • @NiagaraEurovision
      @NiagaraEurovision Před 6 lety +6

      Mustafa Kurnaz your results are with the 2009-2012 system, but in this video, it's the 2013-2015 system :)

    • @mustafakurnaz9103
      @mustafakurnaz9103 Před 6 lety

      Niagara Eurovision there is so many systems :)

    • @NiagaraEurovision
      @NiagaraEurovision Před 6 lety

      Mustafa Kurnaz 2013-2015 is better I think, because 2009-2012 is so close of actual system.

    • @in_wino_veritas
      @in_wino_veritas Před rokem

      Neither Portugal (in RL), nor the United Kingdom (in your post) deserved to be last. I prefer this post, where Spain is in the bottom.

  • @randomuser7158
    @randomuser7158 Před 6 lety

    Prefer this.

  • @mayabrudo5348
    @mayabrudo5348 Před 6 lety +3

    Israel 🔝🇮🇱💙

  • @miguelherrero2647
    @miguelherrero2647 Před 6 lety +6

    Spain last... I prefer the new voting sistem.

  • @danielmillier2344
    @danielmillier2344 Před 5 lety

    What a pity !! Even with this voting system, the awful israelian song would have won !

  • @sergey_teslenko
    @sergey_teslenko Před 6 lety

    Р