Analyzing Evil: Norman Bates, Psycho
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- čas přidán 7. 11. 2020
- Welcome everyone to the eleventh episode of Analyzing Evil! Our feature villain for this video is Norman Bates from Psycho, and is perhaps one of my favorite characters out of any film. I hope you enjoy, and thanks for watching. If you have any feedback or questions feel free to let me know below!
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Cleaning up after his "Mother's" crimes to me is more of Norman trying to protect his "Mother" rather than it being Norman lacking remorse.
Good point.
According to the TV show, here we don't know
That’s what I thought too.
Yeah but he's still cleaning up after a violent crime. If my sister kept killing people and I kept cleaning up after her, I'm a bad person.
@@TheKawaiikari At best that makes him an accomplice.
How was Anthony Perkins NOT nominated for an Oscar for this performance? Janet Leigh was nominated for best performance in a supporting role, Hitchcock for Director, but not Anthony Perkins? The play of emotions across his face are amazing!
Believe it or not psycho was not well recieved when it first appeared in theaters. It was very disturbing material for the time and it took a while to be seen for the horror masterpiece we know it as today.
Norman Bates was the grandfather of ALL slasher villains he deserves to be honored in that way
Sometimes when an actor is that good, but keeps it subtle, it goes unnoticed by many.
I agree wholeheartedly.
Because the academy mostly refuses to acknowledge HORROR movies... rarely do they bother. EXORCIST won 2 Oscars.... that was almost 50 years ago.
Anthony Perkins and his portrayal of Norman Bates was/is absolutely fantastic, what an actor
Agreed. You just dont see it coming, even though it shows him talking for extended scenes, and becoming emotionally vulnerable. That's what really makes it stand out for me, a lot of other psychopaths would show hints at their psychosis when getting emotionally vulnerable wouldn't they?
Love him!
There would be NO JASON, FREDDY, pinhead, leatherface, Hannibal Lecter, Michael Myers, without Norman Bates... HE was the FIRST slasher villain
Agreed. Loved him in Franz Kafka's 'The Trial' too.
Agreed 100%
Those eyes... brilliantly chilling.
"Mommy issues" is quite the understatement here
Mother issues will likely make a person murderous, if left to the extreme
Awe u must be a good son
@@broomshi treatment for aspd are getting a lot better. Find help if you can because you don’t have to live that way forever. Also try have a listen to Paul bloom from Harvard on empathy. Not having empathy can be a good thing. I hope things work out for you in the future because we don’t choose the bodies we inhabit or the life we grow up in.
@@broomshi I hope I didn’t come off as condescending. Your right but, there’s no way I could genuinely understand. Remember that if you don’t get on top of your impulsivity control you could do harm to someone else which in turn could ruin yours as well which is unjust because you didn’t choose to be who you are. Aspd treatment doesn’t cure you but give you the tools to live a non damaging life for you and people around you.
Yeah I'm not sure we could even compare this to an Oedipus Complex. (it's there for sure, but so far and beyond)
More tragic than evil for me. Though its a tough one.
An incestuous home environment warps a person. So much that I’d consider the trauma a significant mitigating factor.
Agreed
Yes. I grew up with an overbearing mother and had to deal with some serious Freudian trauma in order to grow up.
Thankfully, I managed to deal with it at an early age.
I'm not sure it was physically incestuous, but emotionally like Ed Gein. Combine that with psychosis, and it's a time bomb.
If all victims of incest turned murderers, the world would burn. I have an eating disorder (among many issues), NOT corpses statched in my closet.
@@moustik31 if you were a victim of incest, I wouldn’t blame you for having corpses stashed in your closet.
Just as long as those corpses are your abuser and/or the person that stood by and watched it happen to you.
Murder can be justified but sexual assault can never be.
Great analysis of Norman. I believe his mother was evil and through incest, and/or emotional incest plus physical and emotional abuse, trauma and neglect,she broke Normans mind and heart as a child. Therefore Normans split personality was created. I was wondering maby he cleaned up his mother's crimes as a child and he is re enacting trauma. Evil is so destructive it will destroy a person. I think this story was a fable about what an evil mother can do to a child. Thank you for your work, I have always wondered about Norman
there's this series on prime called 'bates motel' ; more or less a prequel, i dont know how much truth it holds or if it's based on the books at all, but in the show they show norma as quite the caring mother. sure, she might have lead him into his downward spiral but quite definitely her intentions were pure and she really did care for her child. it's quite interesting and i think you should check it out :)
@@luxxerpolman470 uhh na she’s pretty crazy in the show too and still emotionally manipulates Norman but there’s a lot more context to why the family as a whole is so messed up. Still a really good show tho
A lot of people tend to forget women can be just as bad as men it's just women tend to be more emotional and manipulative with them men but there are exceptions to the rule but I believe we all regardless of gender can be pure evil depending on the person
@@luxxerpolman470 ahhhh, I wouldnt go for caring... I'd, say smothering, controlling and emasculating... but I dont recall any incestuous behaviour... It's been about 4 and a half years since I watched bates motel though, so I'm going off pure memory right now... That being said, the way his mother treats him in bates motel can definitely create the type of persona Norman has...
@Forsaken Pumpkin you sound a bit dumb because A, there's people like this in the real world, and B, this is the type of things you do in school/college, except with books... Its called a review... Stop trying to be all smart, cus your actually looking dumb... Were doing this for fun, its not that serious. (Eye roll)
The three most terrifying words in cinema: BATES MOTEL VACANCY.
I think Psycho III was the only time the motel came close to being full up.
Or Donald Trump unleashed
The three most unintentionally funny words in cinema: I AM PREGNANT
@@emersedmilkk4163 another three “with Trumps baby “😱😱😱💦💦
It's actually pretty good. Better than most movie names
The f*cking jumpscare where the detective gets stabbed shook me so much when I first watched that film. The build-up is so great and you just don't expect it. I almost got a heart attack at that.
For real tho
Nice to know I'm in good company! That scene REALLY startled me. I know why they call scenes/movies like this "a chiller."
That scene at the end when Perkins looks up at the camera still gives me the creeps. What great filmmaking.
How were camera placement and angles used to create suspense?
with his mothers corpse watermaked in it... yes!!
I believe that him looking at the camera was the first 4th wall break in the horror genre.
I can now finally say that Anthony Perkins is one the greatest actors in Hollywood. That stuttering and uneasiness, looks so natural and that smile in the end creeps me out.
I believe it's possible to have empathy for the tragedy a person has suffered yet still deem then as evil, homemade evil perhaps, but evil non the less.
I don't think he's necessarily evil, just severely mentally ill.
And the problem with that is, you’ll get yourself killed. Evil corrupts, it dose not create. Everyone has evil. Everyone and Norman fell too deep into the abyss.
@@jacksonreeder8125 'Evil' is a tough thing to define. I think the best way to classify Norman is 'dangerous'. No matter how you feel about him, you should be able to agree that he can't be trusted.
I think Norman wants to love and be loved. Sadly "mother" controls him n won't let him love anyone else but her
Honestly last Johnathan I met at circulus riverbank. Literally looked like Norman Bates. He would even act like our boss was his mom. No correlation honestly but he was the reason I'm here. Honestly weird but interesting
I must say that the films of Alfred Hitchcock never appealed to me at first, but they really grew on me after I saw The Birds. The Birds was a genuinely tense film and I was surprised at that when I first watched it. The idea of birds attacking humans on a huge scale sounds like the plot to some Syfy channel B-movie (like Sharknado and, fittingly, Birdemic) but when treated with a degree of seriousness and with cinematography that allowed it to be frightening rather than comedic it ended up being very effective. As for Psycho, it's not my favourite but I enjoyed it for the same reasons I loved The Birds. I think Hitchcock did a really great job at taking mundane things like flocks of birds or a motel run by a lonely man and making them frightening.
Me too ! 😁
Rope is a fantastic movie, I’d highly recommend it.
@@MrJohnlennon007 thank you . 😁
Analyzing Evil: The Birds from The Birds
I love Rebecca, won best picture
The video ends with Norman smiling as the narrator says, “I’ll be seeing you…soon.” Nice.
The Hitchcock stare at the end is so iconic.
there is no "hitchcock stare".
In the book, it is actually stated that he was into taxidermy and occult books before he killed his mother and that it was the combination of those 2 things that was the "secret" of bringing his mother back, preserving her body and willing her spirit back into it.
Near the beginning of Psycho 2, he does also mention that while he taxidermied forest animals, he actually wished he could have live one's as pets around the hotel.
From 15:38 - 16:15 that final scene of Norman Bates (Anthony Perkins R.I.P.) when he finally breaks the fourth wall to look directly at us to this day still sends a chill through me.
Having gone through severe childhood abuse and neglect from my mother - which resulted in C-PTSD - I can't say I'm shocked over Norman's behaviour.
The most common reaction to abuse after a very long time is rage. Uncontrollable rage. You don't want to be violent, not at all.
The best way to put it is that if you're pushed and pushed and pushed too far, taught never to fight back. Never say no, never say stop. Well, at some point, you explode and it's far beyond any sort of mitigating control. The cup runeth over, if you will.
When Norman murdered his mother and her lover, I don't believe it was out of some Oedipus complex because he has sexual desires to his mother.
It's more like he's addicted to her. Always being told how to act, who to be, always bossed around by his mother. Now here comes a new man and gets all that attention, leaving Norman to fend for himself. I think *that* is the thing that triggers his supressed rage and he kills his mother and her lover.
But then again, maybe it's just oedipus complex. I'm not Norman's brain, and I don't think we're given enough information in the movie to make any sort of reliable estimation.
Is Norman evil. No.
His actions certainly are, but he wasn't given a fighting chance in hell. I don't really believe in multiple personality disorder as it's depicted here, but for the sake of argument, we're sticking to what we see in the movie. Based on that I would hope he was sentenced to spend a lot of time in a mental institution, rather than ending up on death row.
But I'm kinda biased, of course.
You should do videos on Hannibal Lecter, Buffalo Bill and Francis Dolarhyde.
🔥
@Wynn Wynn He’s also called the Tooth Fairy or the Red Dragon. He’s the villain in the novel and movie Red Dragon
All characters from Hannibal series! 😁 I love that series.
also, Mason Verger
Gosh, Norman looks like he might have an Oedipus Complex.
It really shouldn’t be called that.
Freud would love hin
Planning to do one on hannibal lecter.
Can't wait
Are you speaking from your alternate personality as the Vile Eye?
Hell yes! I loved the books 😊
Ah, so you want a.... Hannibal lecture?
@@isiboy we love this.
I think back to the scene where Norman is sinking Marion's car in the swamp behind the motel. The scene ends with Norman casually smoking a cigarette and smiling as the car disappears. Norman is satisfied that he's removed all traces, and he's pleased with himself at how clever he is. We're left with the impression that he's done this before, and now he's gotten pretty good at it, and he knows it. That shows a degree of evil, if you ask me.
At the end it's revealed that as Mother Norman had killed 2 other women before because when the psychiatrist asked the 2 cops if they had any unsolved missing persons cases and they said 2 Dr Richmond asks if it was 2 young girls who'd gone missing.
@@Xehanort10 Weren't there more than just 2?
He’s eating nuts/candy, not smoking.
He’s eating a treat at the time and just likes candy
It's called dark comedy and I only laughed out of relief because I was scared it paused for a bit... ;)
I want to see Pamela Vorhees. She's definitely got a lot going on
I second this
Same
yes!
Pamela Voorhees and Norman's mother Norma were equally insane but at least Pamela actually loved Jason and after his apparent drowning she lost her mind, became convinced she could hear him talking to her and telling her to kill and decided to do anything to permanently shut Camp Crystal Lake down like poisoning the water, burning down some of the camp cabins, killing the 2 counsellors in 1958 she believed were too busy having sex to save Jason and then her full on killing spree in 1979 which ended when Alice decapitated her in self defence. Norma on the other hand abused Norman, developed incestuous feelings for him and encouraged his for her, kept him isolated from everyone but her and thought every woman except her was a whore.
@@Xehanort10 you speak only facts
Profile suggestion: John Doe from SE7EN.
I second this. What an awesome movie
Yesss
Yeeeeessss
whats in the BOX!?!!
That would be amazing, love to hear it because it won't be easy going on what the film gives us. The John Doe comics are great source material for getting more background on the character.
I have heard that it isn't unheard of for overbearing or controlling single mothers (with other issues themselves) to treat their sons as a sort of emotional husband. this combined with the more recent discovery that DID is usually connected to childhood sexual abuse makes me think your theory about the jealousy he felt of his mother getting a new lover a really solid one
There was an oatmeal ad in the 80s where Anthony Perkins is re-enacting Norman Bates, and saying “Yes mom, I’m eating my oatmeal!” That used to crack me up!
I don't remember that one
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I think Norman should be labeled as a victim. I’ve watched all the other films and taking them into account, Norman has been emotional abused from a very young age with his mother giving very little exposure to the outside world. Then adding the fact that her boyfriend was a jerk to Norman, seems like enough to tip Norman over the edge. This makes me believe Norman’s poisoning of his mother and her boyfriend were more of an act of pushing back against the mother who pushed him into a corner rather than an act of violence simply because of jealousy. This would also explain why he cleans up after his mother’s kills because the last time Norman fought back, he ended up killing 2 people. Now his response of poisoning his mother instead of getting actual help is still questionable but he was a teenager and likely didn’t know the best way to respond because he’s never known outside help. With all this into account and the fact the jury found him innocent on the plea of insanity makes me believe he’s a victim much more than he is a perpetrator. Btw I’d love to see you do the bates motel tv show
The only thing you said that was true was that my mother's boyfriend was a jerk!
Seeing this footage it really seems like Freddie Highmore was spot on for Norman in Bates Motel.
Absolutely
Lol the movie makes it even stronger
Yes he was, but does this mean you watched bates motel WITHOUT watching Psycho first?????
@@mullaoslo he never said he did or didn't watch the film prior to watching Bates Motel. My theory is that K Geo111 watch the film years ago but can't recall it too much, but Bates Motel caught his eye and loved it so much that he had the urge to see this clip. It's a hunch
@@winterramos4527 yeah I was only asking since he started the sentence with seing this footage.. As in he hasn't seen it before.. Of course it doesn't really matter either way its just weird for me to see anyone even getting into bates motel without having a relationship with psycho..
I feel he's a tragic villain, someone whose actions made him worse. I suppose there were others who stayed at the motel, who perhaps were not attacked by Norman, but I suppose that it all depends on his victims. The aforementioned missing girls were girls he felt an attraction too, but his plays into his upbringing where his mother prevented him from maturing sexually; in a sense Norman's mother is just as much a villain as he is. Whatever happened to him growing up stunted his sexuality making him hostile to the opposite sex. I wouldn't be surprised if his mother persona dictated who lived or died who came to the motel.
It's like a warped Oedipus complex
Norman cleaning after his mother is like post nut clarity
WHY? JUST WHY?
LOL. ... That's sounds about right.
Bates enjoyed killing (or re-enacting the original murder of his dear mother). Then, after he got his satisfaction, he went to work cleaning up the mess. His "mother persona" was just a psychological band-aid to excuse himself.
@@NVG444 cuz it just works like that
@@loworochi AAHHH
Oh my, I need my smelling salts. 🥜
Most definitely wish to see a video about Norman in the TV show
Perkins got robbed in the Oscars. I think Norman was pretty much a result of a twisted upbringing, rather than anything else.
Norman is eager to please and to be liked. Is this the same as being a nice guy? He knows how to mimic a nice person, but his anger at people is just bubbling beneath the surface.
10:01 By pulling the dress and wig off while "Mother" was in control Sam probably drove Norman to complete insanity since the triggers to the alternate personality were taken away. Lila and Sam finally exposing his secret life was the last push over the edge.
At least now, Norman wouldn't hurt a fly.
Norman is hands down one of the most fascinating characters to have crossed the silver screen. The presenter does a great job of noting the variables that led to Norman as an adult. As a society, we abhor context because it can muddy up our demand for a neat, tidy, absolute decision. I don't begrudge judges and juries when it comes to rendering verdicts. Life is a messy thing.
I have watched a lot of horror movies etc but this character scared and frighten me. The way he is trapped by his own mind gave me shivers
The acts are surely evil. He is tragic but at the same time he protects himself from detection so that part could be considered evil.
This is why I love bates motel soooo much. It shows us what his real mother was like. And why she was the way she was as well. Great content. I'd love to see one about bates motel too
Bates Motel is just one take not further explanation and it has an agenda, the real story comes from the book, Bates Motel painted an emphatic version of her like a victim of circumstances, and painted Norman as if he was born crazy.
@@betsady4076 no after his father died is when he got disturbed
@Racist Person I don't think you understand the take.
@Racist Person you would understand I said the opposite of that but keep making a fool of yourself
Yes, come to the Bates Motel, 12 cabins, 12 vacancies! 🙂
One of my favorite moments in The Simpsons is when Principal Skinner claims he owes everything he has to his mother’s watchful eye and swift hand and opens the curtains and starts talking madness
Perfect content for a lazy Sunday
8:28 In the kitchen he probably rapidly switched personalities with Norma finally taking control, Norman putting on the dress and wig, going to cabin 1 and stabbing Marion to death in the shower.
Norman was mentally unstable way before killing his mother and her lover. Their murders actually threw him over the edge, deep into the hallway of his mind where he couldn't escape.
I love the idea in Psycho 2 where Tom Holland's script made Norman sane while the rest are insane and it worked. It's pretty sad at the same time thanks to Jerry Goldsmith's score. The other 2 sequels are worth a watch, not amazing but they have their moments. Rob Ager did an analysis on the first 2 psycho films including the trailer of the original. They are interesting.
I like Psycho II but retconning Mrs Spool into being Norma's sister and Norman's supposed "real mother" was stupid. They should have just had him dig Norma up again and bring her body back to the house after Lila and her daughter Mary drove him insane again.
@@Xehanort10 Yeah I get what you mean but for me, I didn't mind it plus you get a memorable ending with the shovel. At times I prefer Psycho 2 more than the 1st.
@@Xehanort10 Psycho 3 revealed that she wasn’t his mother. Just shovel to the head Mrs. Poole. Norman I don’t believe thought that either. He has just sank back in to the sunken place and used her as a fill in for the chair.
Psycho 3 was just awful, there was no point to it. 1 is a masterpiece and 2 is great
The crazy thing is on the bate motel show Norman mother was so possessive because she knew he was a killer and she tried to keep him close so it gives you a better perspective about her that show makes me look at the movie different
Norman Bates shouldn't count as "evil" since the character suffered from a severe mental disorder he had no control over ..he was a psychotic not a psychopath
Look my illness might've fooled me... but it didn't fool my mother.
I wouldn't call him evil, he was jealous of his mother's relationship and acted in the moment. He loved his mother more than anything so he wouldn't tell on her.
SAM: But .. why was he....DRESSED LIKE THAT??!! lmfaooo
Matin Freeman reminds me of him in the Fargo series. He was a very different character, a very different kind of evil: a weak and cowardly man who would do absolutely anthing to get out of a problem. But his facial expressions, though comical, are very close to Norman Bates' final scene.
I love your serial. Please do Tony Soprano!
I would definitely love to see something about Bates Motel!
Whether or not he is evil, is not important as to what the consequences need to be for him as well as treatment. Many people over the years have had complex relationships with loved ones (mothers in this case), fueled by Mental Health challenges but (like you said), have not led tomurder or a furthering of their Psychosis. Norman is very unique but also shares in many other sufferers like him. His life and illness are tragic. We would do best to empathize with the man while learning from his actions.
Every person is different,,,there are the one's who can somewhat adjust to whats happened to them in early life..then you have the percentage that are just to fragile and act out in destructive ways, that harm themselves and others.
“Norman is a nice guy”
Nice guy or “Nice guy”?
Nice guys being virgin since 1960
@@wolfgangoppenheimer2905 exactly 😂
The newer TV series from 2012 takes place in present day and we see Norman's mother alive and interacting with him. She has extreme powers of manipulation and emotional control over him as a 17 year old high school student.
Let's just say Norman Bates is just a mama's boy.
i just went on a binge and watched a bunch of your videos, you earned sub! very entertaining and made me want to go back and rewatch these classics. Keep up the good work!
This series is fantastic. I just discovered this channel and I’ve binged through three videos so far. I’m excited to keep going
Loving the channel. Maybe do Norman from the perspective of the TV show Bates Motel which give a ton of backstory and ends before this movie begins. The actors did a superb job
When norman killed his mother it was a mix of alot of emotions that maybe were in norman without him knowing growing up like that effects you
I love your videos! Such excellent integrity with each episode. So many good villains out there. Keep up the great work 👍
DAYUM these analyzing evil vids are so thoughtful, in-depth, and educational. Can't get enough of em, and I think this might be my favorite so far
all of your video are super incredible and I absolutely love the content you are making!! :)
The original Psycho is one of my most cherished childhood movies.
It scared the shit out of my 6 or 7 years old self, but it also fascinated me.
i figured that a fear of taking showers was an even trade for enjoying a VERY good horror movie.
Seriously, i only took baths until i was 15 .
Your channels is one of the few that I keep checking to make sure I didn't miss a video. Great content! I know you will hit a million subscribers soon.
Yay, a new upload! Always great to see one from this channel.
Norman is honestly my second favorite villain of all time wit first being anton chigurh
Dr. Hannibal Lector
Ooh. Difficult! But I think the whole "is he responsible?" thing is a red herring. The answer is "of course!" Why? Because the mother side of his personality IS him. So is the non-mother side. They are BOTH him. Saying he is not aware of the crimes he has committed is simply untrue. At best, one part of his mind is not aware. The other part certainly is. It's all him. Does he belong in an institution rather than prison? I think so. But this is a different matter from saying he is not responsible for his actions. He is guilty AND mentally ill. One does not preclude the other. Love your analyses, BTW. Glad you got the copyright thing straightened out, as this video is almost the definition of fair use.
one does not preclude the other, but often one can outweigh the other. do u think his evil was more predicated on disorientation through his illness or the uglier aspects of his actual character?
I'm so glad i found this channel, so fascinating!
You do such a great job 💜
I found you from your One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest video, and I've been watching a ton of your videos yesterday and today. These breakdowns are fantastic. I haven't got a chance to watch him on film yet, but one character that I think would be really fun to see you dissect would be Hannibal Lecter. He seems like a very complex character with tons of layers to search through. Keep up the great work man, these videos rule!
“A blood stain is orange after you wash it three for times in a tub, but that’s normal, ain’t it, Norman?”
-Eminem
Which song??
@@rucianapollard7098it’s called “kill you”
@@giannapatsy thanks
@@rucianapollard7098 you’re welcome! :)
@@giannapatsy Serial killer hidin' murder material in a cereal box on top of your stereo!
Ooo! That final shot of Norman is chilling!! Psycho was the first horror/thriller I watched as a kid and it really hit me. Just that smile dude....
As methodical and comprehensive as your videos are, I like how this and your Michael Myers analyses have been inconclusive. There really is so much room for interpretation with those two; it's likely why both are such compelling characters.
I recently watched this film. Hitchcock had me screaming at the screen due to the level of suspense and casting. Absolutely incredible. Bates was so attached and unbalanced. And CUNNING
Anthony Perkins was always a babe and such a good actor
Another banger, Vile Eye. Love this series! Keep it up.
CZcams recommended really wanted me to check out this channel. I'm not regretting it so far.
I would love to see the Bates motel Norman be analyzed. Because we see his actual decline into madness. He starts off as a normal boy with an overbearing mother, then the mother gets more normal and Norman completely goes mad.
Amazing video, keep up the good work
Bro when I first watch this movie I solve the whole mystery because I remember reading about Ed gein while watching it
So, of course the closing scene with the fly is iconic, but something I recently learned that flies attracting to a person is also a sign of demonic possession. Interested to know if that was also part of the decision process in including it.
Nah, he prolly just stank lmao jk that’s interesting though..
@@itaintova8309 HELP ME
Is Norman aware that he is also Mother? This to me is key.
Not.
@@tanjahorvatserbiaoldslavsh4685 great comeback
Amazing video. I do agree with your analysis that Norman killing his mother was an evil act, and the rest of the murders he committed were a result of his mental illness, and that leads to my opinion that evil acts could trigger some form of mental psychosis since most people refuse the possibility that they are even capable of committing evil acts. Like the psychiatrist said at the end of Psycho, Norman had to erase the crime that he committed from his own mind, which lead to him developing an alternate personality for his mother. This same form of insanity driven by guilt is displayed in Crime and Punishment. I'll subscribe to this channel and can't wait for your next video!
Man am I happy you got permission from the powers that be to do this one. So in that sense, congratulations! It was a good suprise to see the notification for this one popping up. Now then, to be honest I see Norman as mentally ill. Given the kinda abuse he endured while growing up he unfortunately didn't have the mental strength to make better choices in life. His mother's abuse was feul adding onto a threatening spark that wasn't addressed and taken care of. Thank you for another great video, I'm looking forward to the next one. If you are going to revisit Norman, my vote would be the bates motel version from the show.
Great video and I thought your analysis for Norman/ Norma was great considering the movie is all you had to go from. I'd be fascinated to see your results from the Bate's motel characters as they're both really well fleshed out in this series,
I'd love to hear your analysis on the show Bates Motel, I feel like Norman is more of a tragic character as the show makes it pretty clear that the murder of his mother was caused by his long pre existing mental illness, and most of the time Norman tries to do the right thing (Eventually turning himself in after attempting to kill his brother)
8:11 - interesting. I just saw the movie again recently, and when I saw the setup for that shot, I thought Hitchcock was insinuating that Norman almost went upstairs as a way of "taking the high road," but instead opted to stay below, in his own personal hell. It slipped my mind that his mother's corpse was upstairs, so your take makes more sense.
Good videos, i like your narration and edition. Keep up the good work!
Very happy to hear you enjoyed Psycho 2. I love that movie so much, and a lot of people write it off.
I’d love to see analysis on the whole series and the tv show. Normal’s character is very complex. If more people ask then I’ll look forward to more content! 😁
Hitchcock actually wrote Simon Oakland(shrink)to thank him for ''saving" his film w/ his summation at the end.
Really enjoyed these episodes and look forward to seeing more
Outstanding video as always. I'd like to see you follow up with the sequel films in this franchise.
Could “Emotional Incest” be another factor on what happened to Norman Bates? Like Mentally and Emotionally?
You know who you should analyze next, tony soprano.
----oooh, nice one!! Or what tortures Michael Corleone himself, why was Vito loved so much but he (Michael) is not. Both were merciless in revenge, but Vito was more discreet in every way.
@@judywright4241 Vito had a certain goodness that Michael didn't. His utter ruthless acts could still be understandably interpreted as done for family. Some acts could be even justified from a certain point of view , such as killing Don Fanucci and Don Tomasino. He had some form of standard and cared deeply for his family. He wanted Michael to to not live the life he lived, for him to lead a straight life. Yet Michael plunged into the criminal underworld and in his slow and steady downfall he told himself this lie that he did what he did for family yet he was responsible for the downfall of his family, his ego, his unstoppable, led to it(coming so far as fratricide). All his father worked for he undid.
That's why I believe Vito is the more sympathetic.(And by far the less ruthless one as well).
I´ve watched a few of your videos, and this is the very first time you actually pose the morality question: Whether he´s evil, or tragic, or can be held responsible, etc. I´ve missed that with characters like the Joker.
The one moment I never really got in Psycho was that part at the end, when he gets stopped from attacking the woman in the basement and starts cramping up like that, it just seemed like a weird choice to me... But if it's the paralysing shock of suddenly being brought out of scizophrenic psycosis I do feel like it makes much more sense now. Can't wait to watch it again sometime.
I’d love to see an analysis of the version of Norman in the Bates Motel tv series! Great video! 👍🏻
Psycho IV:The Beginning, has a 'cured' Norman decades later telling his whole story to a radio call in therapist. Norma is depicted as bi-polar schizophrenic at best. She was herself a child bride Norman's father having been in his mid 50s and she just past 20 on his death when Norman was 5. She alternatively is permissive and once puberty hits extremely sexual with Noman, then punishing him for natural reactions to it. He laments his method of killing her, arsenic, caused her hair to fall out. So he made it into a wig. 'Norma' starts talking once he got hit on by a girl staying at the hotel a few years later.
Hopefully you can pull these up. Childs play, casino with nikky , king of new york, frank white, menace to society, Odog.
I watched this movie when I was a kid and I had a huge crush on Tony Perkins (even though he was decades older than me). I am so glad you decided to focus on Norman Bates (Psycho 1) for this episode.
My personal interpretation was that his situation was tragic. Although he committed the murders of his Mother and her bf, the question of his malevolence depends on the extent of the abuse from his Mother. Psychologically she was abusive and her treatment of her son when her bf was around may have had some influence on his final decision to kill them both. There is no mention of this, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was physically abused and humiliated as well (this would explain the low-self esteem). He may have justified his loyalty toward his mother and her getting a bf that changed everything as the ultimate insult therefore he had to take measures to adjust to this new situation.
If it appeared that his Mother held her bf at a higher regard than her son, he likely felt jealousy which was a combination of lust and a need to ensure that he would be taken care of in her estate. Perhaps he wanted to ensure that the bf would never get any of his Mother's money and property especially since he probably took care of her until her bf showed up.
If the humiliation was demonstrated in front of her bf, then his feelings would only exacerbate in this abusive environment. Since his Mother was his world, and the motel was their only source of financial stability (including their house), he may have felt like he had no choice, but to kill them both. The low self-esteem and awkwardness likely made him feel like he would never make it out in the real world on his own.
You may be able to tell that I have contemplated this for quite some time.