New Indo-European Language Discovered - Kalasma - a Relative of Hittite

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  • čas přidán 21. 09. 2023
  • Newly discovered Indo-European language - Kalasma - from the Anatolian language family branch.
    Is it something to get excited about?
    Sumerian and Hittite FB group
    / 440056370063252
    www.uni-wuerzburg.de/en/news-...
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Komentáře • 27

  • @LordJordanXVII
    @LordJordanXVII Před měsícem +1

    Highly compelling and exciting!

  • @Baryshx
    @Baryshx Před 7 měsíci +5

    According to Prof. Dr. Andreas Schachner, the head of the research group, they were from the region where the cities of Karabük and Bolu are located in today's Turkiye.

  • @black_lake3382
    @black_lake3382 Před 7 měsíci +7

    This is very interesting! I hope we find more of those minor Anatolian languages

    • @LearnHittite
      @LearnHittite  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Well, it's enitrely possible we will! very exciting times

  • @santiagotorres793
    @santiagotorres793 Před 6 měsíci +3

    I just discovered these chanel, incredible content

    • @LearnHittite
      @LearnHittite  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Thank you very much for your kind words

  • @maskaliki
    @maskaliki Před měsícem +1

    Somehow the work of an ancient language linguist reminds the work of a paleontologist. They discover some bone fossils, and they can directly classify organisms to broader branches of life according to thorough analysis of anatomical features based on the vast arrays of data from other fossils. Then they argue on more subtle classifications within a tree of life, but generally agree on a larger taxon, similar case with this Kalasma language, which is Anatolian. From what I know, Hittite was quite a recent discovery, beginning of 20 century? Hittite was deciphered from cuneiform, the script adapted by Accadians from Shumers, Accadians later developed it into some kind of syllabic/phonetics implied script, then it was adopted by Indoeuropean Hittites. Accadian syllables adopted by Hittite allowed to decipher it, as it was an Indoeuropean language that could be reconstructed by Indoeuropean comparative liguistics analysis. On the other hand, Shumerian which is a language isolate that was deciphered from Accadian (in other direction), which in its turn was deciphered by Semitic languages analysis and from newer alphabetic Semitic scripts of newer Semitic languages like Aramaic? Any chance @Learn Hittite could show an example of such chain of connections between Shumer - Accadian - Hittite, cuneiform, how they all were deciphered?

    • @LearnHittite
      @LearnHittite  Před měsícem +1

      I think that's a great idea for a video. I'll try to get it released sometime in May. The next video will be about proto-Basque.

  • @yanx4797
    @yanx4797 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Thank you for the news!
    I do wonder that why certain information likes goes very quietly. Sometimes not only the ancient past but also the news are left to be discovered.

    • @LearnHittite
      @LearnHittite  Před 8 měsíci +2

      Yeah it's a good question, I wonder the same thing too!

  • @valhalla-tupiniquim
    @valhalla-tupiniquim Před 14 dny

    What I realized: some languages are still quite unknown. Then, other new language is found out.
    It may trigger some sadness on language experts.

  • @edwardsaulnier892
    @edwardsaulnier892 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I am excited that they are finding more findings of other Anatolian languages.

  • @jahanas22
    @jahanas22 Před 8 měsíci +2

    That is a really important discovery. I have been studying Anatolian languages for quite a few years. I'm hoping it helps better connect the languages.

    • @LearnHittite
      @LearnHittite  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Very important. I'm waiting impatiently for the inscriptions to be published so others can analyse them. It'll be interesting to see...

  • @Ariapeithes_
    @Ariapeithes_ Před 8 měsíci +3

    Perhaps this is when an Indo-European language(i.e. Kalasma) became a superstrate for the indigenous Hatti language, like Indo-Aryan did for Mitanni.
    I'm going to enjoy going through H. A. Hoffner and Craig Melchert's book.
    Hittite
    Luwian
    Lycian
    Palaic
    Carian
    Are you a Hittitologist?

    • @LearnHittite
      @LearnHittite  Před 8 měsíci +3

      Not by profession no, I actually study Khoe languages in that regard. Hittite is for fun!

    • @danielbriggs991
      @danielbriggs991 Před 7 měsíci

      I think this is a Kalašma quotation within one of the tablets of Hattuša (Boğazköy), so it's probably contemporaneous to the period 1650-1200. And as mentioned, probably from the north, so more likely that they interacted with speakers of Palaic and Kaskian than Hattic. That said, it is possible that (the nearly unattested) Kaskian is related to Hattic, on the basis of toponyms, so you may be onto something there.

    • @seenonyt2210
      @seenonyt2210 Před 4 měsíci

      @@LearnHittite Cool!
      Which Khoe languages in particular (if I may ask)?

  • @merttuncer1788
    @merttuncer1788 Před 4 měsíci +2

    What are your thoughts on Pisidian and Cappadocian languages? They were some of the last Anatolian languages to become extinct.

    • @LearnHittite
      @LearnHittite  Před 4 měsíci +1

      I'd like to do a video on Pisidian to be honest. I really like taking a look at marginally attested languages and seeing what academics have come up. Cappadocian is a little more difficult though but still willing to look into it.

  • @valhalla-tupiniquim
    @valhalla-tupiniquim Před 14 dny

    I'm new here.

  • @koordrozita7236
    @koordrozita7236 Před 6 měsíci +2

    If you learn Kurdish language you actually learn Hurro-Mitani, Hitites, Luwian etc languages. It is all connected linguistically and etymologically.

  • @alves6013
    @alves6013 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Another Anatolian language. They all have allot of words common with Turkish. Proto Turkic is in my opinion the ancestor of Indo European.

    • @maskaliki
      @maskaliki Před měsícem +3

      Anatolian languages had gone extinct about 2000 years ago before Seljuk Turks reached Anatolia in 11 century AD :)

  • @user-ol2fb9fo7r
    @user-ol2fb9fo7r Před 8 měsíci +7

    Kalasma language is the best