Toyota GR Yaris vs Mitsubishi Evo TME battle | Rally cars for the road! | Chasing Cars
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- We drive the Evo TME and GR Yaris to see which rally car for the road is best.
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They may be separated in time by twenty years, but the Toyota GR Yaris hot hatch and Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VI Tommi Makinen Edition have much in common. For starters, they’re both out-and-out sports cars for the road that are based on the principles of rally driving.
However, while the TME followed years of success for Mitsubishi’s Evo VI in World Rally, the new Toyota GR Yaris is a rally car with no series to race in … yet. The vicissitudes of COVID-19 mean its rallying potential is yet to be fully realised, while the storied legend of the Evo is very well known.
But which car delivers the best experience on road? How do the Evo and GR Yaris compare?
In today’s video, John takes a detailed look at a well-kept Evo 6.5 TME and the new GR Yaris to give you detailed insights about thes vehicles.
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Time codes:
0:00 - Introduction
0:50 - GR Yaris vs Evo TME specs
1:45 - Engines
2:57 - Three cool things
4:35 - Driving the Evo TME
8:14 - Driving the GR Yaris
13:40 - GR Yaris interior
15:00 - Evo TME interior
16:51 - Everyday driving
20:20 - Verdict - Auta a dopravní prostředky
I used to own an Evo and now own a GR. The Evo has a much more raw and adjustable chassis together with a stronger engine (full boost came in at 2750rpm). I still miss that car a lot. It felt like a genuine race car for the road, whereas the GR feels more geared towards overall usability but still captures some of that 90s magic.
@@mattyoz0 Yes I do
Gr Yaris are like 90s sti Type C and evo RS
Reborn in 2020
@@diyman25 More similar to a Sti than an Evo from my experience.
@@sodazman yep simple and lightens is definitely sti , but the radical changes on body shape get evo spirt
I reckon that unfiltered 90s driving experience is very rare to find in a new car in 2021, where all the sharp edges are filed smooth
I have a red TME 6.5 that Ive owned for the last 4 years ( I had a Canal Blue TME previously. I've had many different performance and prestige cars throughout the years, but NOTHING feels and drives like the Mak on a twisty bumpy road.. It is a true icon and deserves every accolade it gets...
They drive like nothing else the Evo 6.5 I’ve owned mine for about 12 years and it just keeps getting better with age..
Never sell that thing! The best 4WD vehicle ever built imho. And for sure the 276HP figure is just a fake number. It had at least 300-310PS when new. As most of this era's JDM sport cars that showed that 276HP power figure.
@@giorx5 Your right it probably does have more power than claimed by Mitsubishi and I'm taking your advice I will not sell =], But I think people get too hung up on power figures and/or straight line speed if that's the case they should not buy a TME.. Not saying your one of those people just speaking in general because I've read that statement about power figures many times. The TME is a joy to drive as it is from factory whether its 300PS or not I think big modifications would ruin the car and the experience. And on the plus side there's plenty of new and used cars for sale that have big power and potential like for example, Aussie V8s and German cars etc with lots more power.
Mine is moderately modded. The 1st and 2nd gear are very jerky when driving at low speed. Do you have that problem?
@@christmasisawesome9348 Yeah that's normal I believe it has to do with the really short gearing happens sometimes to me when I'm in a 50km zone doing the speed limit or in a school zone trying to do 40km.. But when your pushing the car in first and second gear and giving it more revs and opening it up a bit I find it drives much smoother
I came into this video totally expecting an average review. Oh how wrong was I. This review is excellent and spot on.
Thank you for the great content
Great video. And being from the United States, I always enjoy looking at the Australian landscape. Cool stuff!
Great review. Love the old champ v new contender format as it creates a reference point and perspective. Well done Toyota for the commercial bravery of partnering with Gazoo Racing and actually putting this car on the road today.
Great review 👌🏼 I’ll take that evo thanks 😜
Tommi Makinen all day, every day!
Yes! More New v Old Comparisons! Great review John!
Well done - great review and food for thought.
Although the TME is the one to have, the differences between the TME and the 'Regular Cooking Evo' (GSR) as you call it ,really are minimal, it sits slightly lower on uprated dampers and has the titanium compressor wheel as you say, but other than that, the body kit and TME badged seats and wheels, they're not that different at all. If you want an Evo Vi & can't afford the crazy TME prices, a well looked after GSR is much much better value for money, they don't get the praise they deserve!
Two awesome cars, nice review
Great review mate, Hi Jeff!! lol.
As an original owner of an ADM TME, I have a neighbour that just purchased a GR Yaris. Although, at 2 days old he was involved in an accident. Once it's repaired or replaced, I can't wait to see the differences first hand between the two.
Thanks for doing the comparison between a 90’s classic and new model, great review. More reviews like this please.
I may have missed it but what tyres where on the evo....tyres do make a big difference to handling.
Great vid JL - looks a good day for you!
3 Cool things about the Mitsubishi Evo -
(1) It's a red TME
(2) It's a red TME
(3) It's a red TME
Enough said,we have a winner!
I'd happily prefer the TME or even ANY EVO in comparison to the GR Yaris considering you can actually see out the windscreen ! But also I just prefer older cars.
Cars made before 2010 were far more interesting
@@joshuamirabal822 literal facts
The best reviewer on the channel!!!
Very good video although it's an unfair comparison to the yaris with it not being the Rallye/circuit pack with its better tyre package.
Amazing how well the Evo stands up. Progress?
Correction... Tme came in 5 colors, not 4. It's interesting to see the small differences between ADM and JDM.... the speedometer and the ac controller
incomparable cars...both are special on ther own way
Love a clean evo 6.5 👌
@chasing cars If you every want to put the yaris up against a 99 STi, 94 GT4, 93 GTIr, plus 99 TME let me know
Can we take up that offer Gazza?
Hi John.
By FARRRR the best GR Yaris dynamics descriptive review/er on Chasing Cars to date! Excellent. Shame about the same doors as normal car/rear track quote however lol.
If C.C ever does a comparison review with open vs lsd's, you're the man👍
I've gone for the uk convenience pack, Oz base + parking sensors front and rear pretty much.
Will be changing the dunlops within minutes of collection 😉
Gonna be my one car daily and will be leaving esc on.
Circuit/Rallye's 2 lsd's only activate and are beneficial with esc disabled.
Toyota knew that and deliberately used the inferior dunlops to accentuate the gap, both, pre driving psychologically, and when driven hard whilst esc is on.
With tyres changed, it's all you need on the road, but for track regularly, the circuit/Rallye, when esc is off, is really the one to get. Especially if you plan to power drift.
Hi James. Yeah well said.
Wish the got a Rallye version instead but base still great.
@@Dave-gl6jb Hi mate.
Once you've changed the tyres you'll be content. It will make a big difference when gunning it😉
In the meantime, try to drive a Rallye demonstrator and compare it firstly with esc on!
As far as you previously mentioning wanting to do occasional trackdays, once you've changed the tyres it will be fine. Personally, I'd leave the esc on to avoid any unloaded wheels spinning up. You don't need to be setting any lap time records!
There's loads of very fast drives to be seen preproduction with both specs on the estoril Portugal track and many of the journalists were not allowed to turn off esc!
Yes, the circuit pack firmer suspension would on track be advantageous, but likely a little jarring as a road daily 🙃🙂
James I have seen few Rallye for sale for over 70K aus dollars lol.
Great car but people trying to mark them up. Still would I have a second if I had the money. Yeah leave Rallye stock and mod the crap out of my Red GR.😎♥️
Hey James - thanks mate! Glad to hear you are enjoying yours. After filming this review I spoke to someone who has spent many hours testing modified GRs on track, he echoed what you said. With stock power on sticky tyres there is no need for the circuit pack’s diffs on track (ironically), or really on road.
@@Johnacles Hi John. Not yet arrived, due summer.
Drove a circuit pack demo 3 times with esc on. Loved the grip and dynamics but wasn't happy with atrocious rear 3/4 visibility issues and lack of daily use comforts and parking aids.
Then researched much further into the standard car's true dynamics, extensively watching all open diff's reviews worldwide, knowing our uk convenience pack resolves the blind spots and extra comforts issues. Toyota uk cleverly hyped the circuit pack's lsd's. Confirmation that they only are relevant when esc is disabled made up my mind. I'll be using it on the road as a daily blast but leaving esc ON.
GR Yaris in my view is a dynamically great and fun road car. Too much is made of it being a rally car or track hero. It's far too low for the former, a little high for the latter and would need various mods to truly excel in either 😉
Evo 6 Tommy is definitely more horse power than the "official"claimed 206kw. Some dyno from the net even reach the 240kw mark!!!
Very true. My stock example pulled 4.3sec 0-100kph back in the day and that really doesn't compute with a 1280kg car at 206kw.
Doors are certainly not the same.. Frame less aluminium verses 2 piece frame steel door in a normal yaris.
In truth, the GR is nowhere near the TME. The TME is just so ridiculously raw and fast across country. Really one of the greatest cars ever made. I have driven both.........thr GR is as close you will get to a TME, but it cant compete with the EVO.
in fact that mr ishikawa of Engineer of yaris gr is from mitsubishi motors
Dude, the doors???????+? And what is Kimi Raikonnen doing in your car 🤩
Evo looks better. I sat in the back of the GR Yaris and it had poor visibility. Yes they are 1/4 century apart but the Evo is still the one I would rather have as my second car.
Question: How can the cars share the same doors when the (street-) Yaris has four doors and the GR has only two?
Can. Its called bad journalism/ research. After that point, nothing this "expert" says is worth listening to.
Maybe the two front doors are exactly the same shape for the 3 door model and the 4 door model.
@@RealAnthonyJones Naah they're completely different. The GR doors are about a foot longer.
@@RealAnthonyJones doubt it but give the author credit that he did do his research correctly before making videos on this car.
@@rod750 haha. straight to the point.
So much tuning being offered for the GR. Over 300 bhp & uprated suspension. In Japan a tuning company has got the GR to nearly 500 bhp. Much more to come.
This channel is a car encyclopaedia
Same doors in regular yaris? nnope think twice
6 always 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯
Evo. Each damn time.
It’s not a fair comparison. The 6.5 is four times the price these days.
I'd prefer the Toyota with all the up to date safety features although the Mitsubishi offers better vision and has four doors.
If being gifted, I'd snap up this Evo b4 selling it to a true enthusiast and then spending half the money on the GR😃
Saying the TME Evo has “better vision and four doors” is like saying Margot Robbie has “2 arms and 2 legs”. Really underselling it 😂
I would have both.
come on man...... this should have always been the circuit pack yaris , really missed a trick not getting that car for this review...
That being said, you could review the more hardcore RS version of the TME. The results would be identical. Both cars here are your base models.
@@ColonelJohnmatrix1000 except maybe Australia, the Rallye (or circuit pack) is not a model, it's just a option you tick so the base model can also be a circuit pack. A more hardcore model would be a potential GRMN model of the yaris
As far as i know tommy makinen help to develop the gr yaris.
He did indeed.
He had alot to do with it, even wrote off some of the prototype cars during development 😎
...and that means all GR Yaris's are Tommi Makkenen editions....!
EVO the granddaddy 😎
Imagine how good that car is if he really consider selling a Porsche for that...
The nice thing about the GR is that it looks good but blends in. To be honest, I'd feel like a bit of a wanker driving around in a bright red Evo with a huge wing.
Back in the day people used to dream of EVO’s, STi , GT4, now they dream
of ... Yaris... World is ready for a big reset ! 😂😜
Gotta say I really don’t understand this angle. The Lancer was nothing special until it was an Evo... and the shape and size of rally cars is what’s changed, not their underlying ability. GR Yaris is a weapon
@@chasingcars So is 2004 206 GTi or Renault Clio RS, Fiesta ST. Maybe I'm missing something , but what exactly has Toyota created that’s making such an internet sensation... I would love to see Corolla GR, there you can fit 2 adults or 2 kids at the back... Yaris in my books is a very expensive go cart to trash around...
@@goran2009 We cant really compare the GR Yaris with 206 RC, Clio RS or Fiesta ST
@@chasingcars I don't think I would even be mad if they called it the Yaris Evolution 😅
@@goran2009 exactly it is a very expensive and extremely good go cart to trash around, thats the whole point, thats why it's so sought after haha can't really compare to an ST or anything else.
We don't bother with gr yaris in UK unless it's track pack. Virtually no standard cars sold. Massive difference
That’s being said, put it up against the hardcore RS TME, the result would be the same as here. These two cars are the base model. So it is even.
@@ColonelJohnmatrix1000 only good comparation is grmn and tme rs
5:48 why is there a mannequin in the passenger seat?
👍
Evo every time for me !... Hate 3 cylinder engine sound :(
Tbh I wouldn’t even think twice. The Yaris is cool, but not even close to a cp9a evo
Evo is always
Using the wrong GR against the Evo
Car Wow also did this comparison.
The key difference being that this is an actual review with content, carwow uk's was made for people too young to have a drivers licence 🙃
Hello
This comparison has already been done, perhaps something different?
This is the real homologation special and gimmick rally cars
Doors wrong!!! Yaris only avaible in 4 door
The rich stay rich by spending less and Investing much but the poor stay poor by spending more but with no investment
Yaris compared to an Evo,let alone the TME...
sure its for the channels content... but Y THO?!
The Japanese made killer sports cars in the 90s, these day i don't think so. Leave it to the Germans
haha which german? Except Porsche no one makes real sports cars anymore which are affordable. Germans only make sporty coupes and sedans for the autobahn which are super heavy (again except Porsche)
Mate, both of these cars are now completely useless here in Oz. All that power and tech will simply get it crushed along with your license and wallet before you even get out of first gear and start having fun. Even within the posted speed limit you still can't push for fear an SUV plonker doing a 15 point turn just around the apex. Point to point around the CBD or in the twisty hills these cars are no faster than an old $10K Mini Cooper S. Great cars they may be but simply too fast for Oz roads and laws and too heavy as weekend track cars...
Pity really. Strip them out and race them as designed but with number plates they are a complete waste of money... Reality sucks the life out of car romance.
Disagree, I have so much fun everyday in it.
@@dejan. #1) What is 'it'? Guessing a Yaris.
#2) What fun are you having everyday that is lawful? Guessing 0 to 100 kph pulls.
#3) You disagree with my entire comment? I'm certain whatever backwardass state you live in has 'Hooning Laws'.
#4) What is the top speed of a GR in second gear?
You are right. I followed an 'old' Cooper S driven like he stole it through the twisty hills recently in my BRZ and that was a stupid amount of fun, but I could imagine both of these cars would be another level in speed and grip. You could only exploit 100% of them on a track I'd say.
Dislike.