MK8 Golf R vs GR Yaris - "Well, that was unexpected!"
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- It's the hatch battle we've all been waiting for - the all new MK8 Golf R from Germany vs the little nugget GR Yaris from Japan.
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Marty+moog come down to parkes NSW 2870 to have a look at the elvis festival:p
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Dyno run the golf. In the UK they are known for producing more than stated power from factory
You've graduated from the Sunday cup to the Clubman cup... These episodes are real life Gran Turismo 3!
Right
I was going to comment about the tire scrubbing sound - I always thought that was unrealistic in Gran Turismo, but it sounded exactly the same! Crazy.
With real life gran turismo budgets...
Good times remembered
Bro! I was thinking the same thing. That’s funny. I feel like there’s a shirt opportunity there. ✌️
That Golf hauls off the line like a supercar!. But seeing the Yaris catch up and out-class the Golf in the corners was impressive! Looks like a seriously fun little car, that I'd say is a real future classic!
That AWD and DSG do make a difference.
@@mitchjames9350 there both all wheel drive.
Wouldn't mind seeing them compare these to the i20n and i30n
@@mungers88 The Hyundai would be good cause of it price but it front wheel drive.
An Audi S3 or BMW M135i would be a good comparison as their both all wheel drive.
The Yaris can take off much quicker than it did in this video.
2 of my favourite cars there. There's something about that little Yaris that really floats my boat though. Really want one.
They’re a blast, however: Brake pads are soft and ferrous which causes the grooves in the discs to rust and make scraping noises.
Either the clutch, the centre diff or both are made of pure cheese. Mines making a hideous noise when pulling away whilst warmed up, after just 18k of motorway miles, and Toyota basically don’t wanna know.
Toyota don’t seem to be willing to do anything about all the interior rattles that developed within 10k.
The tyre is roar at motorway speeds is laughably bad unless you’re running the circuit pack Michelins. I personally don’t like how vague they are.
@@Jonathan_Doe_ How vague they are?
@@kjph7438 They have an insane amount of grip in the dry on perfect tarmac, but they don’t give you much feedback at all, audibly, through the steering wheel, or through your a** in the seat… When they do let go in the dry it is controllable with the throttle/steering but it’s quite sudden.
Their cold wet grip isn’t the best either… But that’s not a bad thing in the GR, because 260hp isn’t really enough power to have much fun without provoking slides with Scandinavian flicks.
I’ve driven both hard and I actually prefer how the base model tyres break away from gripping to sliding on most road surfaces.
Want both got a seat Leon cupra instead 🤣
@@Jonathan_Doe_ 😂
and you can actually get a more track focused gr yaris, the circuit pack. With torsen front and rear diffs, much grippier tyres and stiffer suspension.
It's called the Ralleye in Australia.
Yuss I have one
Easy enough to whack that stuff on yourself and probably cheaper
@@izzy031096 you don't just "whack" on front and rear diffs. You have to take the gearbox out and open her up. Not exactly cheap - and first you have to buy the upgraded hardware.
@@matthewp9015 There is this YT channel where two guys just have loads of fun modding their cars. Mega drive improvement or something. Maybe they'll try.
To say the Golf is DSG and the Yaris is a manual, this is insanely impressive.
Good argument against the expensive DSG. I'm impressed that Toyota stuck with the good old manual box.
@@whatsstefon Then put the manual in a melbourne traffic jam .i will take the DSG.i have owned both manual and DSG and i would NOT own another manual,
@@MrRonan3 I use to live in Sydney. Always driven a manual. Each to their own. I think there’s no denying there’s one thing Sydney does better than Melbourne, that’s traffic jams.
@@MrRonan3 to be fair there isn't much point in either of these cars for urban traffic and stop/go commutes
but if your trip takes you 20min on an empty B-road to get to work I'd be overjoyed with a manual over a DSG.
@@Valks-22 yep but i do not know anyone who has that luxury of that commute so dead argument. i drive a manual at the moment and hate every minute of it,
The DSG transmission in the Golf is one big advantage also.
And also the major negative. No real car enthusiast wants to drive an auto.
@@jeanblue8424 well no. The future is auto.
@@al151 no it’s not.
@@al151 the end is near my friends. And by “end” I mean manufacturing on large scale will cease. Only easily repaired and manufactured items will live on so I hope you have an old carb car
DSG is only an advantage to people who can’t drive. Gen Y & Z mostly haven’t even learned to how to use 3 pedals properly, because of the lack of manuals in this country & the simple fact that they grew up on playstations & X-box’s, so most of them don’t have a clue about shifting & pedal techniques. But around a track the difference is negligible to someone who can heel & toe, left foot brake & double de-clutch.
That little Yaris is an absolute weapon and the Golf R just does golf things so well while being stupidly powerful.
I feel like the Golf R compares more to a Corolla GR, which isn't available yet... And the Yaris GR compares more to a Polo R or GTI since a Polo R doesn't exist...
Here's to hoping this happens sometime in the future!
Yup, Yaris looks like a heap of fun (never thought those words would leave my mouth), Golf looks like it has "Waftability", great in the city or on the highway.
@@vergaerd Unsure about that, the Corolla GR has marginally more power, no extra torque and lots more weight. GR Corolla = GR Yaris’s fat brother
@@vergaerd GR corolla is basically a GR Yaris. Only reason the corolla has a bit more power is too move a larger car. Both are technically the same.
That's just not true. The Corolla chassis is completely different, the front and rear suspension is completely different, and one is a 5 door hatch while the other is a 3 door hatch. The only thing they have in common is the drivetrain. I expect the Corolla to be faster on power circuits and slower on technical ones. The longer wheelbase of the C will help with high speed stability, though
Sport mode on the Yaris sends 70% power to the rear while track mode is 50/50 front to rear. As long as you're on the power then track mode should be more stable, but it will be a bit looser going into the corners without stability control keeping the back in check. So in track mode you end up with more rotation during turn in, and then more stability powering through the corner.
U test are bias. Yaris is faster track car
the version of the GR Yaris tested in this episode did NOT include the circuit pack which allows you to change drive modes. it comes by default with no LSD and 60 front 40 rear split torque. I would personally enjoy seeing a rematch with a Yaris that does include it and a manual golf r so we can credit the machines and not the drivers
Standard GR Yaris still gets the different drive modes? He literally mentioned changing modes in this video. Also there is no manual golf r in Australia
The way he described the Golf's predictability in its oversteer was exactly how I felt about my GRY in fast corners in sports mode. It still has an understeer tendency but when you can kick it out a bit the control of it always feels composed
Guys I been watching since the eg civic and lately your content has been fire love your guys enthusiasm and positivity on everything it just make me a little happier each time I get a notification of your new uploads
This is really informative! You should do this more often. Most channels only do drag races, but driving on track gives a much better look at the performance of a car.
Drove GR-Four Yaris today. Amazing car, short and wide, punchy, fast, changes direction like a rally car. Even the sound is good, despite 3-cylinder turbo.
The sound is ok tbh besides that oh my oh my
It sounds good BECAUSE it’s a triple. They sound better than inline 4s which is the most boring engine configuration aurally.
3 cylinders sound better than 4's
Driven one too, and got one on the way. I am surprised anyone can form an opinion on the real engine notes without an ear horn.
The noise in the cabin feels nice but it's piped in, but it's one of the more pleasing versions I've heard
go listen to the built gr Yaris motive made, it sounds like ass
Hell yeah thought I was having to wait another week for this back to back videos, salute to you sir💙👊🏻
Wow just got a new subscriber. No frills, no wasting time with long winded fluff, straight to the track. As an MK5 owner, this is the content i want to see!!
I love that you guys explain your reasoning WHILE driving. Great work!
Enjoyed this edition of Mighty Car No-Mods! Both are great cars!
You guys think you can get it both cars on a dyno and see how much their numbers reflect the official specs?
This^^^
Previous generation of Seat Leon Cupra (2017-2021 I think) was sold as 280 HP (when it was introduced, they were increasing the power over time) but on the dyno it made around 300. I guess the Golf will have a few more ponies over its spec as well.
Like all other mfgs, they tend to water down the real true HP/TQ rating. Idk why that is.
@@Hakuna_My_Tatas Taxation. 20 extra horsepowers means several hundred euros worth of taxes being slapped on the price of the car.
I think I've seen a video of this. If I remember right the golf r actually have somewhere between 340-350 hp
this is my first new MCM episode I've watched in a long time, I usually just rewatch your guys's 1st 3 seasons over and over
It's lovely to see you guys getting more and more comfortable with track driving over the last few years. Great vid, enjoyed that!
Can't wait to see this revisited with modded cars. We all know the golf sees insane performance increases with mods... That Yaris though... As Hawkins has shown us, is a freaking beaaast
Too bad the GR Yaris is missing the Torsen limited slip differentials. It would pull out of the corners better and faster.
Oh yeah, the one they got is the base model isn't it?
@@AbrahamArthemius yeah. No red brake calipers so no track or competition package which means no LSD's.
Torsen
I love these mates for always being so heavily competitive against each other and even more furiously supportive with each other at the same time. That only happens with true mates.
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this has been a super fun series, thanks guys, been subscribed since the before times. keep it up.!
Love it! Both fantastic cars. Would also like to see the Civic Type R and the new GR Corolla when it's available
Can't wait for the GR Corolla in the US. Love the Yaris. Maybe a GR Yaris vs Yaris Hilton build. Built vs bought? Love your content guys!
Can't wait to not be able to buy one because they're making too few.
@@ShadowBend If you keep a eye on the market there will be one or two available somewhere in the middle of Kansas for cheap.
@@ShadowBend Cars that you would never imagine come up for sale all the time. If you’re persistent you’ll get what you want.
@@ShadowBend yeah man, if I can't get one in the Circuit Edition, I'm selling both my cars and just getting a C8 as a Daily. Just really wanna keep a manual transmission in the garage.
@@ShadowBend UK isn't getting any... and the GR 86 will only be sold for two years.
We are seeing the last new production IC performance cars...
Awesome, just the race I wanted to see especially after the last yaris vs up race! 👍
I love this kind of video where you get to see the strengths and weaknesses of each car. Would love if you guys kept track of your times to compare to some of your older projects like Supergramps or the Evo against newer cars like the Yaris and Golf R.
Awesome! Now imagine that race with a proper set of tyres on the Yaris 😍
Andddd…if Marty did a proper western Sydney launch. Limiter and release… 😅
I'd tend to assume the fancy AWD system wasn't made to hole-shot the thing like that.
Doesn’t Marty has some Cup 2’s on the Yaris? They changed the tyres a few episodes ago.
@@Blanc777 ahhh must have missed that okay makes sense now!
Still needs to launch it like he stole it 😅
@@OllamhDrab myself and others have punished our GR’s with a high rev launches at events over and over again. For longevity a slip launch is ideal but also chews the clutches which a few have done also.
Also let’s not forget the whole reason why these vehicles were made of rally abuse and track time. Haven’t seen anyone yet in the past 1.5years of ownership break a diff or gearbox yet.
Buttttt….for a one video purpose I think Marty should have sent it 😂
@@Blanc777 but it is still a base GR Yaris isn't it?
Who knew...... a small light weight purpose designed rally car can out handle what is in reality a comfortable fat hatchback...... and a 2.0 litre 320bhp 7spd dsg hatchback can out drag a 1.6 manual hatchback with only 260 bhp albeit a bit lighter.... I would have thought those conclusions were bloody obvious before the test lol!!!
1 year after a bazillion of the same reviews…
ThAt waS UneXpeCteD
Exactly, well said. That circuit is little more than a kart track, a circuit with longer straits and faster flowing corners would see the comfortable family car Golf easily pull away.
What's so amazing about the Golf R is they just do everything well. They are such a balanced package. There's really no compromises in any category.
You get a very capable sports car that you can really put down respectable lap times with, yet you still have a ton of practically, comfort, and solid feeling build quality.
And they're very reasonably priced as well.
Watching this reminded me of why i LOVED old school aussie touring cars at Bathurst, when it was Falcon v Torana.
You'd always see the falcons tearing away up the mountain gaining a handy lead, and then across the top of the mountain the Torana was so much quicker through the turns, and they would eventually be back where they started by the time they crossed the finish line, so it was a constant back and forward and usually came down to driver error. BUT unlike now, it may come down to driver error, but its not the same when EVERY car is basically the same car except for the tune.
More track battles, especially great for a dedicated 4 wheel drive channel.
When the Japanese manufacturers put passion and effort into their sports cars special things happen.
11:30 on a Saturday night playing Gran Turismo 7 in the other room. This was the perfect video to watch between races. Thank you!
This episode just makes me smile. 2 friends just having a great time!
I’m keen to see how the GR Corolla would do in these situations, hopefully you guys give her a crack when she arrives
with marginally more power, same torque and lots more weight it’s going to be like the Yaris’s fat brother
The Golf R has 320PS and the GR Corolla has 300PS, so the Golf would beat the Corolla all day. The better race would be between the two GR cars and I would put my money on the GR Yaris!🤘
@@antonthompson7838 I dnt think you watched this video. More power doesn't always equate to winning on the track. The Corolla is more capable in handling. And if the Yaris can keep up with the Golf in the bends with less power, the Corrola will do better.
@@BradK02 no the yaris is absolutely better in handling in ever way. the corolla 350lbs heavier thst the yaris. that is signifigannt
Like civic r vs integra r back then
I would love to revisit this with the GR corolla vs the golf
GR Corolla might do worse given it’s bigger and heavier than the GR Yaris, despite its 32hp increase…
@@JacesOwnWorld maybe but its the same size as the golf. The yaris is polo size
@@MaffoGodLike the dimensions aren't much different. I think the Yaris is slightly wider but slightly shorter. It's very minimal. You know the Yaris is a corolla chassis on the back half and yaris chassis on the front half.
@@JacesOwnWorld So its like the Golf R
@@MaffoGodLike GR Yaris has an image of a small car but is actually bigger than it seems, when it's alone it does seem like a small car but put it next to others and you realise that it is quite large for it's class. Guys that covered my Yaris with ppf were surprised how much film it needed.
Being a Mini guy, seeing how people have been getting more power in the Yaris; and subsequently taking them to the Nordschleife to pass everyone is just awesome.
Love the work you guys do keep it up amazing video and congrats on the new merch i CANT wait to get my hands on some !
With the lap times being effectively the same, it would be cool to see what professional driver could do.
That Yaris is crazy! Keen to see what the incoming GR Corolla will do🤟🏽
& this is the base model GR Yaris, the competition package would be faster again.
Team work.
Knowledge.
Having fun with respect.
MCM are great guys.
Golf R is $72k, GR Yaris is $50k or 55K for Rallye version with BBS 18s, Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tyres and a Torsen limited-slip differentials, Add Litchfield Stage 1 Remap and Milltek 3" Exhaust, and you get 310 hp in the GR Yaris Rally for 58k.
The content I’ve been waiting for. Would love to see the Yaris go up against the STI. And the gr corolla against the golf r once it’s released
Id love to watch these comps. Also i think the GR corolla is more suited in the mk8's class.
Sport and Track still have some assists. You have to get it into Expert for all assists to be off.
Sport or Track just defines the power distribution to the AWD system.
Can confirm , looks like the auto break aka pcs kicked in, which can be removed in expert mode
If you hold the esc button off for 5 seconds it let's more slip than expert mode. There is another level above that which is is essentially a dyno mode but that requires a 'pedal dance'.
@@georgecarter5400 hold esc + put in track/sport mode for expert mode
@@OmaygaDesigns you just press ESC in either sport or track mode and it will put it into "expert" mode which dials down the safety to step in far later. Holding the ESC button down for a few seconds will turn everything off and remove "expert" from the screen but the dash warning lights remain.
Exactly why I own a Focus ST. Lots of fun and practical for day to day use.
Would love to see you guys do another round of audio videos good quality car audio isn't dead! would love to see your breakdown and expertise on all things audio and car audio. learn about all the intricate little details like gain vs volume, etc... Love your stuff guys
because everyday driving is more fun with a DSG??? nah... the GR Yaris and GR Corolla will always be slower because of the manual gearbox BUT it will always feel better, you will have more control over the car.. just look at Marty and Moog faces and you could tell who was having more fun (both of them was but one was having more fun)... you want to go fast then buy/ build a race car.. yeah i know i'm a Toyota fanboy so you can take my comment with a banana... lol (both of them looks like fun cars)
When you put the DSG in manual mode so you can shift with the pedals it's alot of fun but I get your point.
Marty vs moog in the Yaris comparing times against each other. We need this for comparing the drivers handicap between the drivers.
1600ccvs2000cc?
Can't wait to see what you guys do with the Yaris - The lads at Motive Video have managed to squeeze some pretty epic power out of that 1.6L 3 Cyl - Over 100kw per cylinder at the hubs!
Their car is a pure tool, love it.
Marty is great! When it comes to builds I respect his technical expertise. On the other hand Moog seems to typically post better times on the track. It’d be interesting if you guys swapped cars mid day to really see which car is superior
Wow! Great vid guys! Super happy to see so many videos, but I do like the longer features better. These are nice filler though. Love watching your content. Ever since the street cred peed on golf I've been watching nonstop.
I'm curious how the golf would do if it had a manual gear box instead of the DSG
In the US they get manual. Over here we only get DSG
Considerably slower!
It will definitley be slower with a manual gear box. Golf 8 is a great car, i own a cupra leon st witch is pretty simular to the golf 8. both real fun cars ✌
I’m curious how much faster the MK8 Golf R would have been if it didn’t weigh 600lbs more than the GR Yaris 👍
That’s like saying I’m curious if the Yaris had the same power as the golf? It’s not really logical.
I think you guys should put out two videos a week, one racing like this and another one modding stuff, love it!
You guys have built an insanely good channel & business. Well done! 👏 👏 👏
Be interesting to know what tyres both are running, as I’d say the Yaris is running more track focused tyres and tyres make a massive difference
I think they use same set of tyres here. But the thing is, that yaris really is quicker in corners. You can watch this car in nurburgring taking on much faster car
Also, this is the base model GR Yaris, the competition package has even better brakes and front and rear LSD, so would haul even harder through the corners.
@@Beer_Dad1975 the circuit package comes with 18” alloys Michelin Pilot sport 4s. Those tyres would make a huge difference
@@hanzalamehmood2991 And anyone serious wouldnt even run those tyres on track lol. Thats why they put Cup 2s on it.
@@GeneralNOH why not
Hey MCM. If you still have the Focus RS, it would be fun to see the difference between the Golf and that car, as they are both clever AWD cars with roughly the same power.
Yes!! I look at these two and wish Ford was still doing the Focus RS models, they look and drive sooo coool
Take focus rs anyday over the golf
@@cybersteel8 💯 better than the Yaris and golf
I think they have an RS3 too.
RS was sold to one of their friends years ago
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Lol my family drove Melbourne to Brisbane in a 2L diesel golf manual, 4 people + a big roof box on top.
No issues
Golf vs Yaris series would be great to watch. Best return of investment for upgrading tyres, suspension, exhaust, tune etc
That was awesome! I’d be curious to see an N car get thrown in there for comparison too 🙂
I am curious as well. Will be interesting to see how the FWD N handles against an R or gr Yaris.
If the Civic Type R had no chance what makes you think these two will even defeat the fastest fwd?!
@@boygonewhoopdataZZ lol the N is slow compared to these 2
@@boygonewhoopdataZZ huh? Can you explain you comment better? Iam finding it hard to understand lol
@@nickovdub6131 for sure. I think the civic type r is the best shot FWD cars have at winning against these two.
Would like to see yous switch cars no shade feel like moog is maybe slightly faster driver be interested to see what times Yous can set in each car
Interestingly enough watching the short snippets Marty seemed more on the racing line and had better control over where the car was.
Marty (from watching vids) seems more technical but cautious, while Moog is more loose and aggressive.
What were the tire specs on both of these? Would be really cool to see both cars compete with similar bolt on mods to see just how bunch better they can be themselves, and if one car takes to mods better than the other! Simple mods like, tune, downpipes, and maybe lowering springs and brake pad upgrades. Love the video, good to see some cool new cars that are a fun time on the track!
Beautiful hot hatches!
Love seeing "normal" production cars going round tracks!
I would love for you guys to mod these cars for the same cost and run this again!!
GR Yaris is insane for a 3 cylinder
In power mode im impressed totally
Awesome battle. Really cool to see how different engines and platforms act on the same track, and how close they come together!
I am in the UK. I ordered a GR Yaris Circuit pack in June 2021. I was told my car would be with me in 12 months. I was then told my car would be with me in March 2023. Now they are saying it might be delayed even more....I WANT MY F'n CAR DUDES!!!
Next time I’d like to see you two switch cars and see, I feel like the Golf R could of been pushed harder and smoother through the corners. Great videos lately!! Keep these tracks days coming!!!!!!!!!!
They did when they tracked them solo, and the times still remained.
A bit hard to tell from the video, but the Golf R can be pushed out of the corner a lot earlier then you might think. The rear differential only works under engine load - so you can actually get back on the pedal right after braking and placing the car and correctly done, it will push you out of the corner with the rear outboard tire, eliminating understeer that you would have in the same situation driving a GTI.
Would have been epic to see Marty and Moog swop cars so they could each give their opinions of the Golf and the Yaris GR... Great video nevertheless. :D
would be interesting to see a lap competition between the golf , yaris 2.0 , and supergramps around that track
Always a great day with new mcm content!!
Time for an upgrade on the yaris!
500hp ecu input... Engine standard gr yaris
Would have the little Yaris over the golf. It’ll be worth double if not more in 20 years time. Always a great video 👌🏻
Engine will blow much earlier than that and it will cost fortune to replace out of warrenty
@@m4u5 thats pure bullshit :D That engine is overbuilt and made by Toyota to participate in rally racing :) also new crate engine price is 6.5k $ and some guys in Australia are getting more than 500hp on stock bottom end while tracking the hell out of it, so you can keep your "it will blow up and cost a fortune" for German cars.
@@m4u5 yep expect that on a vw.
@@notathome13 what? Lol neither of them will blow a engine, the Golf R is known for its ability to hold super car power and still maintain reliability lol, stop hating they are both amazing cars:
@@notathome13 the new golf will run 600 no issues I bet. Last gen was 500 safe, this new conti turbo will do wonders even before a hybrid swap.
the version of the GR Yaris tested in this episode did NOT include the circuit pack (you can tell by grey-colored brake calipers and non-alloy wheels and drive mode selection not being shown on video) (Rallye in Australia) which allows you to change drive modes. it comes by default with no LSD and 60 front 40 rear split torque. I would personally enjoy seeing a rematch with a Yaris that does include it and a manual golf r so that we can credit the machines and not the drivers.
Torque split is adjustable on ALL GR 4 equipped GR Yaris.
yeah that top straight I would get a little sideways as well, nice track. good race boys.
We need a Mk8 vs the GR Corolla (When is available)
The Corolla is 400 pounds heavier with 32 more HP which means down on HP to weight. It is not a purpose built 3 door chassis either. It is a Corolla with more welds. If the Yaris could not beat the Golf R the Corolla will get walked. The Yaris handles so well because of its size, the corolla will be the same size as the Golf.
@@shawncarr9855 We don't know until someone test the car in the real world, and if loses its ok.
I think if you had the lsd in the yaris track mode would of been alot better
he didn't get the circuit pack? for shame
@@jaybosher6144 I know aus had different packages to we got in the UK but I believe it doesn't come with the lsds this one , you can ots an option but not standard
@@IFlyinBaconI ah I see. I'm in the states so we're waiting for the corolla version and only the limited edition circuit trim will come with the lsds standard. Regular car has to be optioned so similar here to there.
@@jaybosher6144 yeah i reckon the wait could be long I ordered my yaris Feb last year and its been delayed till September this year now
@@IFlyinBaconI I saw toyota has stopped taking pre orders for them now so im not even going to bother. I'll wait for next year to come around
This video lit the fire for me to want a gr corolla……. Finally got mine mid dec 2023! Love this car!
How do those times compare to other cars you have driven on that same track , you should always give that kind of info so we can all have a reference point to go off ! I'd love to know ! Otherwise amazing video guys !
Do more comparisons and also make a leader board and add every new car you drive too it please , could even go stock and then tuned comparison aswell! Get a huge amount of views because everyone wants to know that info 😜.
That accerlation in the golf is nuts! I wasn't expecting such a huge leap compared to the yaris, for a bigger car as well, im suprised it handles the corners like a champ. Love the yaris!
The gearbox and launch control are immense. People getting sub 4 second 0-60 in the R
Key word is DSG
Yup it’s insane. People have recorded 0-100 in 3.9 seconds in stock form. This is just incredible.
yup, the manual is way slower, which is understandable, but let us not be fooled as VW has a reputation of publishing lower HP specs than what their cars actually make.
Impressive time by the Golf R considering it is a tight track, would still take the GR.
Yes,overall it is just a golf with a small inlinefour....unfortunally
I would take the GR Yaris any day
@@tt-rs1457 Not really, the GR Yaris was design to go racing, and is based on it own platform which is why it is a homologation special, the Golf on the other hand is based on a mass produced platform with notice to do with motor racing at all.
This is an excellent review of both cars! I… Want them both!
I love the track comparisons without having to sell one or the other.
The R reminds me of a GT car in a hatchback.
I'm aiming for the mid cycle refresh maybe I'll want to trade my 2016 by then
more like a gts
I have s3 2016 and I am going to keep mine. I didn’t like 7.5 and def not a fan Of 8 since only mechanical change I see is awd system finally being good. But then again there is enough aftermarket to make mk7 R handle just as good. Rear sway and some camber is good enough for me
@@kdavid123186 awd system is the selling point.
I would love to see an i30n on this channel considering how cheap it is compared to these two
Not an awd hatch, much better to compare it to a renault rs or type r or clubsport
It's mad how the Golf R is rare there and the Yaris GR "has been out a while". Whereas here, the Golf R is as common as Covid :-) and from memory, there are 4 Yaris GRs in the whole country. I know some people have bought them to store as a collectable. Anyway, another great video!
Would love to see you guys swap cars half way through and experience the differences between the two cars that you're battling.
The DCT in the Golf is just insane and it absolutely flies off the line but I'm still so happy to see the Yaris be overall faster around the track
Thanks, now I don’t need to watch lol
Had a 2010 Yaris, now have a 2019 Yaris, want a GR SO BAD, Toyota can keep their Corolla, BRING THE YARIS GR TO THE STATES
Looking way through the corners Martin, nice driving 🚗
Thanks for the test on the track !!! Next time you sould do the same with the GR Corolla.
The ‘circuit pack’ GR Yaris would destroy the Golf R, and 90% of GR Yaris sales are ‘circuit packs’. You raced the standard car against the quickest Golf, it would have been worth mentioning that in your video.
It makes no sense to buy a gr yaris without a circuit pack
Overwhelming majority of Yaris sold here don't have the circuit pack.
@UCO_or2gMIOQ1CbhRnOc7QZA There is no option on a GR Yaris, you have to buy the Rallye trim level. Majority of cars sold here have been base Yaris GR.
Period.
@@Jaredscott89 any proof that the most cars sold here are base?
One of the reviewers said in a gr Yaris video that Toyota in Australia say more than half of the buyers chose the circuit pack on the gr Yaris, and looks like you don't know much about the car either, circuit pack isn't an option of Rallye, Rallye and circuit pack is the same thing, it's just called circuit pack overseas, it costs about 5k more than the base Yaris which starts at 49k, so not alot of money for alot of extra bits, front and rear diffs, better breaks, lighter aloy wheels and sports suspension
@@shivamarya5225 Toyota sales numbers.
Don't really give a toss what some random "reviewer" said.
I didn't claim the circuit pack was an option.
Rallye and circuit pack aren't actually the same thing. Rallye comes with those performance parts standard, but is not the same as an overseas GR Yaris with circuit pack. The cars are contented differently between regions.
The Yaris comes standard with Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tyres. The most important tool needed for a track is correct tyres. Cornering and braking all come from it. The Golf would have done so much better if it also had a set of Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tyres on.
actually this is the "base" yaris wich has pretty crappy dunlop tires. The trackpack adds pilot sport 4s, front and rear torsen diffs, forged wheels (2kg lighter per corner) and stiffer suspension
Not all GR Yaris are equipped with PS4S for your information. But Marty put Michelin CUP2 on his one so your remark may be still valid (even with Hankook ventus S1 EVO3 as standard on Golf R )
@@joachimtaverne5035 the ventus s1 evo3 actually are really good summer tires. It´s more of a competitor with the ps4 tho...
You Guys have done almost all the Yaris things I've wanted to. Half my life ago I tracked a 98 Mercury Mystique LS with SVT mods and it would regularly embarrass a c5 corvette an S2k a Turbocharged 350z and my buddies Gold GTi. Now on the street I couldn't do much.. 170hp manual sedan only do so much but a 2800lb car well balanced on Falken rubber was pretty hard to beat on short track. That said my brother wouldn't race me with his T/A or Mustang...
After years of churning out only bland and boring cars its is really nice to see Toyota return to making fun and exciting cars again like they did back in the 90s.
I like how they've not overdone it on the tech front either - Can still get a manual box to stir the cogs yourself. I wish more manufacturers still offered manual even if only as an option.... Toyota has obviously been listening to enthusiasts and delivered on all fronts. Nice work guys, and welcome back!
Considering the Golf is much heavier and not as track focused, it did really well
Agreed. I love both cars but i think people forget the yaris is much more geared toward track than the R.
Yeah, imagine the Golf with a few suspension mods to correct the understeer/oversteer it gets in some of those corners
i30n would eat it for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
@@boygonewhoopdataZZ No.
@@boygonewhoopdataZZ in your dream 🤡
first! happy to watch the low value content
Think you guys really have the best job in the world. Like the Top Gear/Grand Tour guys.... Chop away, and thanks mates.. all the way from the Netherlands!
Good video there, i test drove the yaris GR circuit and fell in love with it, i think its going to be a present to myself in 2023 :) . I hear toyota are brigning out a slightly more powerful version of the GR!, 300 hp would be nice .