33 Things You Missed In The Shape of Water Trailer
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- A closer look at some things you might have missed in the trailer for Guillermo Del Toro's horror/fantasy/romance film The Shape Of Water (2017), in theaters December 8.
In this analysis, I'll break down some of the unnoticed details in The Shape of Water trailer, examine the possibility that this film is connected to Guillermo Del Toro's Hellboy universe and address the rumors that this film's creature is related to The Creature From The Black Lagoon (1954).
Could this creature be Abe Sapien from the Hellboy movies? Is this secretly a prequel? Or is this creature from The Amazon? Is this a sequel? Stick around to the end of this video to find out.
Synopsis: From master story teller, Guillermo del Toro, comes THE SHAPE OF WATER - an other-worldly fairy tale, set against the backdrop of Cold War era America circa 1963. In the hidden high-security government laboratory where she works, lonely Elisa (Sally Hawkins) is trapped in a life of silence and isolation. Elisa’s life is changed forever when she and co-worker Zelda (Octavia Spencer) discover a secret classified experiment. Rounding out the cast are Michael Shannon, Richard Jenkins, Michael Stuhlbarg and Doug Jones.
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what about Dark Universe? they confirmed that they will have the universe of all universal monsters. and i think that Guillermo del Torohe is the expert of the horror movies and can be the best director for the movie the Creature from the black lagoon from Dark Universe.
9:21 it was Ben-Hur i think.
The shoe thing is probably symbolically related to Pisces, the zodiac sign of the fish. Pisces rules the feet, so the shoes will probably symbolically tie into that. Pisces is known as being a sign of dreams and escapism, among other things. This is definitely a Pisces themed movie, if it weren't already obvious lol. Im pretty excited for this. Pisces stories are p interesting to me.
Genius! And here I thought astrological signs were a waste of time...
Astrology is the basis of every trope both in real life and fiction. Both classical and contemporary stories use these tropes. Check out the book "Hero with a Thousand Faces" by Joseph Campbell. It breaks down the psychology of story telling to reveal that every narrative is actually the same story, the same myth. Pretty interesting stuff. Del Toro usually goes pretty hard with the visual metaphors so his movies are both visually enticing as well as really easy to figure out with very basic esoteric knowledge.
For example- This is obviously as romance movie, but with a fish? Pisces is a water sign, and water represents intuition and emotions. "I like long walks on the beach" is a cheesy fantasy date trope but it exists for the same reason. Emotions, love, water.
I typed up a long reply about why astrology is the foundation of every story, both classical and contemporary, but i think i deleted it before posting by accident lol. Basically, if you want to find out what a story is about, just learn basic astrology and esoteric symbolism. Every thing from Marvel/DC to the Matrix to Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, The Odyssey, Shakespeare, Hunger Games, even the Bible- Its all just zodiac tropes being rearranged to teach us lessons through entertainment.
Skyler Kuhn and
bifoclemoss 202 and what?
That voice (at the beginning and end) is Richard Jenkins, the actor who seems to be some kind of friend/artist/father (figure) to the female lead.
Also directors usually work with the same actors because they have worked together before and "get" each other, like working with each other, etc. rather than for reasons of auteur.
My theory is that is Father.
David MacDowell Blue Agreed. The voice over is definitely Richard Jenkins.
That wasnt a tentacle in the beginning, it was a curtain.
Sgt . Thondos
You might be right.
A blanket, actually. It has a knit fabric and you'll notice that the floating figure isn't wearing a blanket.
Is it just me or did y'all get a Bioshock feeling when you saw the trailer?
Guillermo del Toro loves Bioshock he wanted to make a film
Yea bruh i got all excited cause I thought it was bioshock
xL Lx you mean it has a 60s vibe
Booker Dewitt no bioshock cuz the underwater scenes
xL Lx same
I don't know but I'm kinda looking forward to this movie. Looks interesting and enjoyable
HOLLOW NANO agreed
The movie’s cast is phenomenal. 🤟🎶🐟❤️
Also check out the follow up video where I answer your comments. Things I Missed in The Shape of Water Trailer: czcams.com/video/UIHIWhIc5YY/video.html
Perhaps The Shape of Water is a completely original property?
I was in the middle of judging you for being ultra-nerdy when you said, "Abe reads four books a day," and my brain automatically corrected you by thinking, "No, Abe reads four books at a time." So, uh, from one ultra-nerd to another, great video! :)
This is pretty weird but her shoes could represent like the formal life that she hates and is forced to do, or stress. At 3:49 is shows them falling off, maybe symbolising the stress of life going because she's with the fish person. Additionally, she puts on her shoes after she was asleep, to symbolise her going from a happy place (dreams) to grounded reality (shoes).
i think hes watching 1961 russian movie ''chelovek-amphibia'' about guy who lives in water , he always lived in labaratory , sometimes escapes to the sea and local people call him a monster , he inloves a girl , girl inloves him , but they cantbe together , or maybe it is reboot for this movie :)
Eigile Ceplauskaite
YOU ARE AMAZING.
i know .... right ? :) o i know it was old movie and his costume so simple , but he was my first fish-man :)
Eigile Ceplauskaite he eats eggs, listens to classical music, and lives in the exact same tank as in the hellboy movie so...
so... i know its easy to say its abe, i want to say its abe ,i talked in coment about wich movie hes watching in that movietheather fragment , the last sentence was maybe deltoro use some of that movie cose he cant use abe and make abe story before hellboy movies cose first hes not his and second someone making hellboy reboot , u and i need to wait and see what movie it is : reboot for creature , abe past or its something else
yup i know i always mix this movie date 61 or 62 , :)
i hope it is about abe hes my favorite hellboy character
"La Javanaise" is a 1963 song composed for Juliette Greco by the great Serge Gainsbourg. Of course, the interpretation in the trailer is new, but the idea is still there. Perhaps the authors right was too much expensive for the original interpretation.
William D.
Thank you for the info! That makes much more sense.
The shoes are representative of her humanity and connection with the Earth, thus her shoes drift away in water
Angelique Demont stfu.
Angelique Demont why do so many people say thus stop being posh no should say only megatron optimus and the rest of the transformers in transformers prime
Cracked iron I dunno what language you are speaking, bro?
is this movie hellboy?
Doug Jones himself has already confirmed that this character has nothing to do with "any movie or character I may have portrayed before". Check his Twitter and Instagram for proof. He answers multiple comments asking about this and it is well-established now that the Shape of Water is a standalone movie that has no connection to the Hellboy universe.
ya and harrison ford said han wouldnt die in tfa actors lie when a studio tells them too
Exile Studios if you look at the design of this creature vs Abe Sapien you can see they are completely different. Also, anyone who knows anything about Hellboy knows that Del Toro invented all of the traits for Abe Sapien that you see in the film. It's HIS imagining of the character, not Mike Mignola's. Abe Sapien is a very different character in the comic book. Del Toro liked the traits he came up with because it made the "monster" more easily relatable to the audience, so he re-used them for this film. Still don't believe me? That's fine, there's plenty of proof of all of this online already, and even more proof when the movie comes out.
lol keep believing something that has no basis in facts buddy this is just the start of another generic cinematic universe but with dark horse characters instead of dc or marvel
Stereobarf the fact the design looks slightly different could just be that they're letting Del Toro design the new Abe for the Hellboy reboot and this is his origin story but they want to surprise people
Ya dude when a studio doesent want the main secret of the movie to get out they tell the actors to lie just like in the force awakens
"I'm not gonna spend 13 minutes on this video"
*watches video*
*subscribes*
"Ok, let's watch more stuff."
Maybe it's neither?
Kieran Cheale
Definitely not ruling that out.
Kieran Cheale I hope it's something. I don't know anything about any of these movies.
Creature is with Universal anyways. This is Fox
Joseph Valenti That's true, and Universal is in the process of rebooting all their monster movies.
right its del toros protest for not being involved in the uni reboots. hes like cool not gonna give me one to direct i'll just make a better one before you get the chance hahah. do i kinda hope its a hinted hell boy connection though
The rights are public domain, aren't they?
David Flethcer No, Frankenstein and Dracula are but "original characters" such as the Creature are owned by the studio.
At 12:33 of this video, she traces her finger along a window with water drops on the other side and she seems to be controlling the at least some of the droplets. Anyone else notice that?
thank you so much for taking the time to make this video!! A lot of us needed it. I too was kinda hoping that it would be a spin-off but even if it isn't I think I'll love it cause it seems like a uncommon love story not easily forgotten
Hmmm...set in Massachusetts? Fish people?
Mother Hydra! Does no one read Lovecraft anymore???
hahahah michael shannon's got that insmouth look to him hahah
Shannin DeLong As awesome as that would be, it's doubtful. Movies based on his work either suck due to the filmmakers take WAY too many liberties and ruining story, or, the film fails to launch before filmmakers even have time to begin working on a screenplay.
Also, "Jeffrey Combs" wasn't in this trailer, so it's guaranteed not to be a "Lovecraft" film. Can't have a Lovecraft film without him LOL
I don't recall a Lovecraft book about a man-sized manphibian that falls in love with a mute. Btw, Hellboy has always had a big Lovecraft feel... lots of tentacles.
David Flethcer No, but, I'm sure you recall a Lovecraft story about a town full of manphibians worshipping manphibian aliens, right? LOL
I will cry tears of joy if its an Abe origin movie
I'm getting a strong Bioshock vibe for this movie as well. The dream sequence in the beginning reminds me of Rapture, and the "using music from the wrong era" reminds me of a few plot points in Infinite.
I'd guess that the shoes represent her connection to the rest of the world, literally her staying grounded in reality, but when she's with Abe From the Black Lagoon, she gets lost in his world with him. A place where shoes aren't needed at all and are actually a hindrance, so we see the shoe fall away from her when she is with him. She doesn't care that she's losing the world shes used to because she's so caught up with Fish Man.
It's only an homage to Del Torro's love for the idea of Mermen... something apart from Hellboy, Guillermo said so!
I think that this movie could be a prequel to hell boy and a Sequel the creature from the Black Lagoon the creature could be Abs grandfather and this one is he's father or not either way it looks like a good movie
Could be, but this movie takes place 98 years after they found Abe
Fnar For no apparent reason I've seen a lot of people who are told it's either not abe or not gill man (the creature from the black lagoons official monster name), and so instead concede and try to combine them. I can tell you for a fact, no way in hell this has anything to do with the creature from the black lagoon. This is fox, the creature is universal. A reboot is being made specifically for the dark universe. There is zero chance it's related. However, I fully believe this is abe related, at the least he's working on a prequal for a hellboy universe. If not, there is an awfull lot of ammo for a copyright lawyer. The abe similarities are gigantic, and undeniable, so if it's not abe, del Toro blatantly ripped him off.
This wouldn't be Abes father because he was discovered in '78, just a bit down the road, and has a damn long lifespan, I think if it's an abe movie, it would be abe himself.
Fnar For no apparent reason Abe was found in 1865 pretty much fully grown. This dude isnt his dad
Maybe this character can be simply related to Abe, maybe his son, or even nephew culd also be there are many or them too like a new species of anphibious men/women !
Also keep in mind Abe Sapiens in the comics was influenced by the creature from the black lagoon, Mike Mignola is heavily influenced by pulpy horror in general. Additionally GDT was a huge Hellboy and Mignola fan before he got to make the film, I mean he wrote the intro to a 1 or 2 of the arcs for Hellboy about how he loved the comics and how him and mignola settled on Perlman for HB (kinda of a neat story if you haven't heard it)
the movie the monster was watching was simbad
As an avid classic movie watcher, It is totally Sinbad.
"The Story of Ruth" is the correct answer
I'm pretty sure Abe Sapien WAS the creature from the black lagoon, like a LoEG for misfits, or a suicide squad-type deal.
Dylan Sullivan lol this is a joke right?
There is a Hellboy Reboot coming 2018.
Lester Lewis he knows...
Bravo. Very well thought out and researched.
I like that this movie targets more audiences besides horror fans. I normally don't watch horror films, but the addition of romance has got me hooked. I hope the ending is good.
Not only they look alike but the guy from hell boy look like the creature from a live action short film called space between us.
also in both the movie and the short film, the main girl meets the creature when cleaning the lab then wants to free him
Kaylee Perez true.
But it looks nothing like Abe. You could say it is young or something but still, it would resemble him and not the creature from the black lagoon.
Luis Torres they've REBOOTED Hellboy, which means they've rebooted the designs of the characters
i mean, it doesnt look NOT like Abe, it looks like a blue creature from the black lagoon, which is pretty much abe, it doesnt look exactly like him, but an updated design for the reboot could be used as reasoning
Luis Torres its a reboot
As they said, the creatures change appearance with age.
A film about love. Continuing love, and one that goes above all else. As love does. Beautiful story and film, thanks.
Damn sir, you are thorough and that is to be commended. Wonderful work. Keep them coming please. Thank you!!!!!
Honestly I didn't seem to interested into the movie but now I'm more into how the plot will develop in he movie
Batrob 32 same
It's gotta be Abe Sapien. because he has an obsession with eggs which is shown in the trailer
And classical music
Yeah, I personally think this is a prequel to Hellboy because it's the same director, has the same guy who played Abe in Hellboy, has a lizard like creature that eats eggs and listens to classical music and the design looks more similar to Abe than what the creature from the black lagoon looks like. But this will most likely be his own movie that is just similar to those other films.
KidBlueRB27 he also loved old music
Yo u should do a video on the new trailer of it that would be dope! Anyways keep up the good work, love your short films.
u are the best when i say this video i was so interested so thxs for making this video make more pls 😀😄😄
What if the creature from the black lagoon and Abe are the same species
#Casual Gamer They're very different physically. I doubt it.
@CZsWorld After thinking about it, I'm satisfied with my theory behind the importance of the shoes. I figure that the shoes represent her ties to her (this) reality; grounding her in this unfriendly yet familiar world. She is obviously deaf and so cleaning and maintaining is a simple yet powerful way for her to make a physical change in the world while also being easily perceived by others. In my opinion she doesn't care too much for the cleaning itself but for the difference she is able to make. For this reason she opts to help this strange creature that is unfamiliar and alien to her even though others seem to treat it with hostility. She does this because, just like her cleaning, this is a way to make a possibly positive difference. During the scene that she and the creature kiss, her shoe falls off. That to me represents her letting go of some preconceived ideas she may have had from simply growing up in her world. But, notice she only loses one shoe. Maybe this is just because having both shoes float away in the same scene would look odd and possibly distract from the kiss. Or maybe it's interchangeable with the amount of her old self and ideals she is still holding on to.
Damn i didn't think about this nice video
This was interesting, thanks for dissecting and sharing. I also noticed the strong Amelie connection to her character and also in the color tone of the cinematography.. which I love, because that's a fantastic film, one of my favorites.
What if shape of water Is going to be connected to the new Hellboy reboot
Benjamin Valles did you watch the video
Creature from the black lagoon is owned by dark universe
More accurately its owned by Universal. Dark Universe is just branding.
I really can't wait to see this.
Actually, Abe got in a scrap with Wink in Hellboy 2. But damn, you raise a lot of good points and minor but probably important details. Excellent video.
It cant be hellboy. Del Torro and Mike Mignola had some sort of falling out and thats why there was never a hellboy 3.
Frozen Golem that's not a fact that's gossip and rumours
there wasnt a hellboy 3 because del toro had a huge budget for it and hellboy 2 didnt do very well in the box office
Frozen Golem sucks right...
There was no falling out.
Hellboy 1&2 were box office flops.
And the two animated movies didn't pull in ratings or home video sales.
That's why there was no 3.
James D Maybe its a sneeeaky addition to the Hellboy story. And Del Tore is sitting somewhere right now thinking "Sheesh I didnt think itd be so apparent..." or maybe hes just doing a sinister villain cackle in a dim lit room *shrug*
I hope to god it's Abe Sapien.
Why? 😄
BigBadWolf The movie would just be yet another shitty chick fantasy if it's not Abe Sapien.
Del toro already shot that down
Abe sapien wasn’t born, but created. Read the comics. He was a man, created by a water deity that posses a scientist. God damn.
Amazing observation. I enjoyed it. Thank you :-)
Great review
Hell boy is my favorite movie
getting a strong pans labyrinth vibe from this movie
When I first saw the trailer, I literally gasped "ABE??" out loud. With the new Hellboy reboot coming I was just grasping for anything to tie into it but damn, if this is linked in any way, I will be pleased
Saw it tonight & I liked it. Looks like it could be related to Abe Sapion, as he has the ability to heal with his hands and in the Hellboy movies, Abe always wore gloves, unless he needed to "examine" something but then, Abe never tried healing anyone as far as I remember.
WAIT... what if this is apart of the new hellboy reboot I know del toro isn't directing the new one but maybe just MAYBE there's a chance that it is the new abe
Why does everything have to be connected these days. Can't we just have new characters? Either way, SoW is Fox Searchlight and Hellboy is Lionsgate, so no, they will not be overlapping.
I want hellboy (even if it isnt) cause I'm a fan of hellboy
I hope it is a movie about Abe because that character deserves his own movie.
"The Shape of Water" is more of a stand-alone story that in a similar vein of "The Iron Giant"...but with aquatic tendencies. Either way, good to see Del Toro's still telling awesome narratives!
Its the creature of the black lagoon
What if the creature is the father of Abe
ceyreh B Could be, but this is 98 years after Abe was found, so Abe is also in a tank somewhere in a government facility.
BaneSIlvermoon oh ok thank you
ceyreh B DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE
is it that dumb?
CAN IT NOT JUST BE AN ENTIRELY NEW CHARACTER. FFS.
Great video! That was fun to watch. Thanks for the spoiler alert, I had to SPLIT XD
Maybe she cleans things because she could have OCD as well....maybe that’s why she always cleans her shoes over and over everyday it’s like a ritual
Zusse
Great point! Thank you.
CZsWorld nah man thanks for making some original and nice content I enjoy watching things like this it helps me relax
maybe she just likes clean things.
There rebooting hell boy to soooo hell yeah
MY LIFE IS A LIE
I'll be upfront about it, I could totally be wrong...but I watched that clip and I instantly wanted to go watch Jason and the Argonauts which came out in 1963.
Now I'm going to have to go watch that movie again, it was one of my favorites when I was growing up.
I truly hope that the romance of Creature from the Black Lagoon comes out in this movie. I was so saddened as a child when I watched the end and felt so lonely for the creature.
great vid
Maybe, this movie is about Abe's parents....
The Hellboy/Creature From the Black Lagoon argument is ridiculous. This movie is being released by Fox. Universal owns Creature From the Black Lagoon. Columbia/Sony owns Hellboy, and Legendary Pictures is trying to make a deal for the rights. Therefore, this film has nothing to do with either property.
THAT "IT" PART, WHY DID I LAUGH.
I am so unbelievably excited Bout this movie!! I'm rewatching Hellboy and the Black Lagoon to get ready.
Who else watching this in 2017
Art Jashari oml
tSkele wat
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Dude im loving your videos sub
That rich abe backstory, go i hope this give us hellboy 3 after this been waiting to long
The voice at the beginning and end of the trailer is NOT Doug Jones, but rather Richard Jenkins (of "6 Feet Under" fame). You can see him with the bad hairpiece throughout the trailer. Can't wait to see this movie!
Something I thing is strange is the official wiki page clearly states that it is set in 1962 and only takes place over the course of a few months , but a lot of people think it takes place in 1963. There are some things that point to that being more likely,but I believe it is just like most films and is a slightly altered continuity of events from our own.
A lot of time must have been spent on this, I liked and subscribed for that
9:21 probably Spartacus. One of del Toro's favorite films.
The movie playing in the theatre is The Story of Ruth, made in 1960. It starred Elena Eden as Ruth.
Ever thought about Lovecraftian theme? Del Toro is a Lovecraft fan, the creature is worshiped by the amazonian and in the Shadow over Innsmouth, captain Obed Marsh befriends a tribe which worship Dagon and brings that belief back to Innsmouth and and also befriending the Deep Ones. Maybe the creature is a deep one??? Just a wild thought :)
Del Toro can have it be a spiritual prequel. While he may not be able to legally say it's a prequel for Abe Sapian but he can, and can want others, to think of it that way.
cool video
BTW the voice at the beginning and end is Richard Jenkins
When I watched the trailer, as soon as I saw him grab the boiled egg from in the water I immediately knew it had to be a prequel for Abe sapien!
9:22 I think it’s the Ten Commandments playing in the background
It's a deep one nobody is thinking about how Del Toro is a huge Lovecraft fan.
The voice at the beginning and end is Richard Jenkins, who is shown talking to Eliza later in the trailer.
I had always thought that this was able sapiens backstory
Personally, it doesn't matter to me if this is a Hellboy spinoff or Guillermo Del Toro's version of Creature of the Black Lagoon because regardless the detail and story will be spectacular and will leave the audience in awe. I am a huge fan of both, but I would love to see Hellboy's Abe have an origin story. Abe is a character that only Guillermo Del Toro can expand upon and if it is not an Abe origin story and a Black Lagoon story, I will be thrilled either way.
Maybe it's a way to test out how well A movie featuring a gillman will do in the theaters and maybe come up with a new design for the creature from the Black Lagoon
The disc was playing 'can't smile without you'
The design is pretty reminiscent of the 'Future Abe' from the BPRD Hell on Earth series, which was a more alien take on the design. I doubt this film is connected to either franchise, but I can see Del Toro dropping little references to both, as well as the little tribute to HP Lovecraft with the location
When I saw this trailer I originally thought it was a Abe sapiean movie, but once I saw the creature I knew it was not because Abe is light blue and has spiky fins, also he doesn't have the suction cups on his hands like Abe, this creature has gray skin with light blue stripes as well
I just happened to watch a short sci fi film on here called The Space Between Us, this movie seems to be an expanded version of that story. Some shots are almost identical.
Ty for the scary part @3:35am irl
made me think of Jean-Pierre Jeunet's work. like The City of Lost Children, Amélie and Alien: Resurrection.
I Grew Up On *{The Creature From Black Lagoon}.. Plus All The Great Monster Movies.. But I Do Like how.. You Have Explained Your Ideas, & Thoughts On This Movie.. I Also Think That.. Abe From Hell Boy, & This Creature.. Live In The Same Time.. They Are Just Distance Relatives.. Kind Of Like *{BIG FOOT, & The YET}.. Are Kind Of The Same.. But Far Apart By Distance.. I Liked Your Video So Much.. You sir Have A New Subscriber.. Keep Up The Great Work..
im definitely hoping this is an abe sapien origin movie lol. guillermo del toro did direct both hellboy movies which i think is a decent coincedence but still you made many good points for both. excited to see where this goes!
This music somewhat reminds me of the music that you here in Bioshock games.
when i first watch this trailer in the movie theater i thought it was a remake of the black lagoon but now that ive watched this i think this is connected to hellboy