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Mark has been an intern with us for the entire summer. Niko, Nick and Fenner discuss the experiences we all had together during that time.
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I wish Mark all the best. I hope he can use the knowledge he gained to start his own channel. He looks like he could do with a few views and a dollar or two.
Bro he has more 30 milion subs
Truly all the best luck to him!
@@GaggyOfficial r/woosh
@@GaggyOfficial wooooosh
@@GaggyOfficial thats the joke
Mark: "knowing you its gonna be some AI bullshit"
Nico: "So I took 12 seconds from the original and AI.."
Mark: "🙃😁"
I hope this Mark guy becomes successful one day. Seems like a nice guy…
91 likes no comments lemme fix that
Having watched Mark on Corridor Crew for a few months while thinking that he's some rando, I've just learnt who he is and my jaw is on the floor. lol
I really hope they make VFX artists react vid with Mark. Test him on what he learned during his internship.
From what I heard, nothing lol
@@baseballjustin5 bruh why did you say that?
@@baseballjustin5 blah blah
@RiptideV10 In his own words. Watch the Podcast "Mark's last day" or whatever it's called
He joked he learned nothing
@@baseballjustin5 Saw that recently. Shame but it was fun while it lasted.
Sad to see mark go but it looks like he had a great time with them
bet he had
I'm so happy Mark came to Corridor for the time he did. Thank you 🙏
I guess you could say the true internship was the friends we made along the way
Mark's family story gave me chills. I cannot wait to watch that documentary. And read mommapliers book!
mark has made such a great addition to the team, hope to see him return every now and then
I knew of Mark before Corridor, but the stuff he did for Corridor Crew made me appreciate him. Thank you!
Good luck Mark, I hope to see you guys in more videos together. It was certainly fun while it lasted
Man, it would be freaking awesome to learn any art medium from The Crew in depth. Mark, you're super lucky and talented. Wishing you and The Crew all the best. I hope your future challenges give you all the opportunity to grow. 🌱🌲
Marshall Vanduff had discussions in the Draftsman podcast about mastering traditional draftsmanship and rendering before the advent of Photoshop. It was certainly a difficult process to learn before the internet and CZcams tutorials. He mentioned trying to find instructions for constructive drawing and finding out years later that multiple books existed that he simply did not know about.
What Niko said about people wanting more when some stuff is more available makes sense
Considering the entirety of youtube and twich.
Those platforms would not be available if cameras were still too expensive, some things had to change for that to happen, but other things came up after that.
Very interesting times to live.
14:30 I like that mental image a lot. The farmer before the industrial age had to know and be capable of a lot to run his farm.
And as tech develops, we get to do more things generally, but we do fewer things as our specialty.
You guys and gals have kept me beyond up to date with what is new and coming up in the world of visual technology and I'm glad Mark could be a part of it too. I'm a 34-year-old graphic/web designer and I have started veering into 3D, VFX, video, AI, and VR thanks to you all. You pointed out very clearly what the future will look like for professions like mine. It's literally changing the way I think about everything I create AND I feel like I'm getting insider information on what designers will need going forward. I'm a massive fan of all of you and to take it one step further,... Niko, Sam, Jake...you are running your business and treating your employees in a way, that I believe, is revolutionary. The way new generations picture a perfect work environment.
Sincerely,
Logan
SD finally made me take the step in creating, even though I’m crawling because I’m having to learn of pc art programs at the same time.I’ve never been so happy while learning these new tools that will eventually let me visualise and unleash my ideas.
novelai just came out with an extremely coherent anime image generation, paid so thats kind of sad
but its one of the best anime ai image generations to date
I have literally searched "Markiplier podcast" in the past 7 days, and this was never recommended to me. Glad I found it in the end, very enjoyable.
Mark was a great addition to the corridor crew videos and would love to see you guys in more videos together in the future.
So sad Mark is leaving, but it’s been great fun.
At 9:15 when he talked about Stable Diffusion gambling addiction and just trying to get the perfect result with one more reroll, I was in another tab pressing generate on another 64 backgrounds trying to get the right one for a picture.
Maybe it's just me, but I'd really like to see intern Mark interact with the almighty Steve the landlord before he goes...
Is it me or we haven't seen Steve in like 3 years? Or maybe I just missed the episode 😅
Very niche but great song to start the episode
So happy to see Luigi finally on the podcast
I love the corridor crude idea
Great podcast, watched it all 👍
I don't think artists are opposed to AI because they can't "google how to install stable diffusion". The problem is more that their art is being used to teach these programs without permission, let alone compensation, which is not only a legal problem, but it does not exactly incentivise anyone to actually create new art. In addition to that, it's not really clear yet where the end result lands in terms of copyright, I don't think. How similar can an AI result be to an existing work before it's treated like infringement? And who is the one in trouble then? The people who used the original in their machine learning dataset? The guy who put text into stable diffusion and didn't even know the original and thus had no chance of even recognizing it might be a problem?
TL;DR I argue that the issue about AI is deeper than just beeing a new tool. There are a lot more technical, legal, and ethical nuances to this than with the step from paintbrush to digitial art for example. Artists are not just opposed because they refuse to learn new things.
This and as for the "learning" aspect it's about as easy to use as Google is. I don't think those artists are worried about learning how to type a sentence into search bar. After all, they spent years honing their craft. It's only going to get easier as these tools get more refined. For instance, Stable Diffusion already has a photoshop plugin that's very simple to use. On top of the scumminess of the training sets, there is really no "learning" involved with these AI Tools or at-least very little of it. It's simple for the end user.
It obliterates any sort of skill-level when you can just type in "In the style of Craig Mullins, Syd Mead, Giger, etc". If you wanted to copy these artists any other way it would require years of honing one's craft. Dedication and discipline until you can finally reach their level of art and grasp and mimic a fraction what they're doing in any medium. That's far more admirable than just typing in a few words.
I understand and often times want the "quicker and easier" route but we are now reaching a point where I'm wondering, why are we in this rush? What's is the point of it? To save time and money of course, but it's a gradient. Eventually you save so much time and money that the very thing becomes near meaningless and valueless. We are quickly approaching the point of just pressing a single dopamine button. I don't see much benefit in it besides the obvious cost savings for big corporations and the tangential gains in other industries like healthcare and the sciences. I just want my tools to get faster, I want the boring parts to get quicker, but instead it seems be just be going for the entire craft.
In this very podcast Nick hits the nail on it's head "paraphrasing" "Why would I pay this other guy to do this work now when I can do it myself?" and trust me, the industry is already using these tools. I'm both excited and frightened. If this allows me to make my own short films without the need of a huge budget, then hell yea, but also I can see why it has the potential to decimate many careers, eventually even my own. As with everything, there will be plenty of good and bad. I just hope we can still make a living doing this stuff in the future.
The idea is not learning to search things in stable diffusion, it’s about incorporating it into your work flow, how can you make a comic with it, how can you incorporate it into your podcast, how can normal people who don’t know how to draw now make their own cartoon tv show, e.t.c. If you make static art (single paintings, individual drawings e.t.c) and not an entire animation then your business is now cultivating a fan appreciation of you and your style, you can now produce art much more quickly so you need to sell who you are as a person and how your style emphasises your story
This was a pleasure to watch! 😂
Aww, they said some lovely things about Markimoo.
Time went by way too fast 😢❤❤❤
When Mark has only joined the podcast twice... When he joined for the internship and when he left the internship 0-0)
"You can mark the advancement of civilization in the dilution of specialization" .... what the heck, Mark! Is that a quote from something? That's an unexpectedly poignant philosophical observation. Bring this level of depth to your channel, please!
I assumed it was a quote but I can’t find it anywhere
no pun intended
Mark is regularly on 2 podcasts where he says more of his thoughts, Go my favourite sports team is interesting and has more thoughtful content (sometimes) and Distractible is just hilarious if you want to hear more from him
As an autistic person I have all these ideas for art and game sand movies and books of all the stories in my head and the dreams behind my closed eyes, but I have a lot of trouble actually putting it to paper so to speak, using ai has made things a LOT easier, I haven't started novel ai cause I hate subscription payments and would rather find something that's a one time lifetime payment. But I use free ai to generate images so when I'm writing I can physically see what I'm trying to describe in my book.
man that is how i use stable diffusion is well it generates something i open gimp change a thing generate it again rince and repeat. its for not neural network is making an artists job harder. now i litrally put my drawings with basic colors in and it shades my drawings for me. it amazing just have to define where the lights are coming from and what type of painting it is
Speaking of NovelAI, they put out an image tool yesterday and it's imo way better than StableDiffusion if you want anime-style
29:02 Oh wow! I didn't expect Wren miss this much while filming 🤣
YESSSS That hit when it pops!! Oehhhhhh them endorifine rushhhhhhhhhhhh woooof!
Creativity is an additive function.
I was liking Mark's videos here. Sad it was so short xD
Love you guys
5:55 MArk under sells the meaning of being a creator/artist, you use the tools you have to make your art, weather that be a mouse, a paint brush, your voice, lines of code, the recorded sounds of nature. The whole part of being an artist is taking those raw ingredients, and manipulating them into something else, using the TOOLS we're given/create.
One of the biggest problems is defining what is an actual TOOL to use to create things.
Like a camera is a tool for taking a photo, the person using the camera still has to pic and choose the settings and position, and visual appeal, of the soon to be captured light reflected off of objects. For a long time "photography" was considered not art, because people were just stealing existing things to make an image, and weren't "applying skill" to creating the image.
So how do we classify art. Well we do so by asking how it was processed by the person calling it theirs, ownership imply effort/input/method/skill applied to materials and resources to create the "art" you're being shown.
But then AI's "output" is that art? or a "Raw material" ?
Personally i find AI tools more of an inspiration, a reference generator. Where as someone who doesnt have my skills will feel like they are "creating art" by using the tools mechanics, but to me using an AI to spit out material, feels more like gluing a box together for the silicone mold. I still have to DO something to the mold after the AI has poured in the silicone around my sentence.
Subscribed to Corridor Crude 😎
Where is the video covering the Tool Room remodeling?
Dedicated video, or just what i have seen in the crew videos?
Can we get the chapters updated? The description doesn't seem to include them...
I saw Nick's T-shirt and lost my shit. Bloody aliens everywhere.
There is a great video called The Visual Effects Crisis by The Royal Ocean Film Society on CZcams. The Corridor crew seriously needs to watch this. It could lead to a Corridor Cast topic or more.
Such a great look into the VFX industry
czcams.com/video/eALwDyS7rB0/video.html
He was so good on corridor, it's sad to see him go
Please do more GPT - 3 podcasts...
Please do. They're really funny.
I hope Mark becomes successful in the future!
Corridor crude seems sick lol!
It's called shentai and it's art!
17:00 I knew it moment
8:00 it's been a very long while, without AI, that handpainting style is replicated via shaders/math. Did this 10 years ago now, i think ? (time fly so fast ahah) but i remember replicating the art director style in shaders and making whole project without drawing, I mean i can't draw for shit... soooo yeah you take whatever way you can to deliver a project ;). It's different with AI for sure, but still an evolutive process.
what a loveable dude
I just watched the Vice piece on the rick roll, I was not ready to be rickrolled moments after finishing it
nicks beard is so incredible
Me: (Sees the title)
Also me: NOOOOOOOOOOO
13:16 Yes.
Remember
my 2nd fav intern is off to the big world
My first works there lol
@9:15 this 100%
what if we used stable fusion to do invention blueprints!? O_O
Everyone sounds like a normal person, Mark sounds like a radio show host lol
A camera is just an automatic tool to create an image of whatever you point it at. There are billions of amateur photographers. But that didn't lead to the death of creativity, it's just another tool. Like Mark said, how good is that tool at reflecting what's in your head, and how good is the idea on your head?
quick question for your thoughts...
if everyone can do it, then does that mean nobody is special anymore ?
i guess it becomes the question of... why you instead of everyone else if everyone can do it now ?
that's why its bad, just look at the number of musicians out there now, so many groups... no wonder not many of them succeed... everyone is fighting for small part of the pie now... youtube is the same now, it used to pay much more, but now its so easy that everyone fights for a small part of it. thats why things gets down eventually...because it becomes mundane. that said i dont think it will be anytime soon, yes it goes fast... but not that fast...
You gotta get Griffin on during one of these AI Podcasts.
Mark should intern mir often ;) hope he will be back soon
Goodbye Metro Man, you had a great run with Corridor
Nice
The meme convention makes me think of the emoji movie. Imagine the meme movie next
Ai will be limited by our limitations to explain with words. With humans some people are able to understand us much more easily and they will be able to make something much closer to what we want then an AI will be able to.
NOOO BUT THE CORRIDOR COUPE!
Didn't Jukebox AI come out 2 years ago?
Think of a great portrait artist that hates doing backgrounds, they can put all their attention and energy into painting the portrait and just ask AI for a background and be done with it
Mark and Mark Normand remind me of each other when they speak 🤔
i dont think anyone ever taught me this, but essentially I think that nearly every idea that could possibly be thought, has already been thought by somebody. meaning that practically no idea is actually original anymore, but even though every idea has already been thought, it doesn't mean they've already been done.
as an example there are literally over a dozen noteworthy songs that have the exact same hook as Smells like teen spirit by Nirvana "hello hello hello, how low"
it is safe to say that some of them took inspiration from another band or artist that did that, but at least a handful of these artists came up with it completely independently and thought they genuinely had an original idea
edit: i originally started this comment over their conversation of fair use and art stealing but i think i lost the topic pretty quickly
"That's the secret - none of us know VFX. It's all the AI." Easily one of my favorite jokes 😂
As an artist, lots of smaller and even bigger artists in the community don't like AI ART. Ai is super cool, I won't lie. But it is risking so many artist of potentially not getting a job. Also Ai now can not replicate everything. So many styles and the ai will not be able to replicate that. These style differ from artist to artist. I honestly would consider you guys to look into the artist online and their opinions and why they hate it so much. Multiple reasons why, you can find them. But again that's my opinion on the matter. And what I've seen. I think it's bullshit to sell ai art, that just gives me off vibes.
Yeah but you get that with every technological revolution. The horse-and-buggy industry threw a huge fit when Henry Ford made the Model-T affordable to the middle class. But imagine a world where cars were still only for the super rich. That's just the nature of change
@@Foxtrotopia this is quite different though, we're talking about a future where art skills won't be necessary and thus diminish over time. A better comparison would be self driving cars, if all cars become self driving, fewer people would need to know how, thus driving skills will diminish over time.
@@joeytheghost4211 Maybe it's more of an evolution of the skill. What is the old time version of driving skills? Horse riding skills. How many people in modern times learn how to chisel stone? It's not that art skills will disappear, they will simply evolve.
That was brief
Has anybody in this group read "Transmetropolitan" or "Snow Crash"?
That was fast
Since the revolution is now upon us, can we expect a new guillotine video? 😂
13:04 - 13:08 Yep, that's what happened with NFTs
40:00 fun fact: the guy from the chad memes isnt real. it was a photoproject of a photographer who made a man with hightend male features inspired of the picture of her dead father how she remembers him.
marks f***ing hilarious
People seem to really underestimate just what goes into crafting an art style. It's a unique calling card that makes your art instantly recognizable as yours. It's a combination of the techniques you've trained, the concepts you've learned connects with the audience, and most importantly its the embodiment of what you personally want to create. You can't compare that to manufacturing air conditioners, because the only difference between different brands of A/Cs is the brand. There's no innovation there, just mass production.
Imagine if everything had Greg Rutkowski's art style. Movie posters, playing cards, browser ads, anything with a picture is now in the style of Greg Rutkowski. It's not special anymore. And worst of all, the things Greg Rutkowski himself creates aren't special now, because everyone else is using his art style.
Imagine if we could copy Mariah Carey's voice at the click of a button. We get a voice bank that you can just plug into a music program and treat it like an instrument. The quality of songs you make will heavily depend on the person making them, but they all still have that Mariah Carey voice in them. Her voice is no longer special or unique, its just another instrument.
The problem with AI art isn't that it lets anybody make art. Its that it takes the hard work and effort artists have put into learning and honing their craft, and turns that into basic tools the unpracticed can use. Whether the artists want to be part of it or not. There's a reason why patents and copyright exists, so why is it okay to copy an artists art style without any care?
Yeah like Mark compared it with him playing the same video game as other youtubers, and I think that's just a straight up bad take. Every gaming youtuber have different life, personality and intelligence, thus making their gameplay unique, just like every artist has different personality, decision and skills. It's like comparing fanart to tracing, it make no sense
If you capture the real image then use AI to expand on your work i think there is more art behide it
I´m here to remind Mark... about 53 min
Glad Markiplier had a good internship with the “Corridor Crew.”
why since episode 100 is always about AI :(
I think that AI art will definitely make art more accessible, just as music making programs have done for music, and that no matter how good or bad everyone should be free to create all art because it's the human condition. However, not only will that not ever change skill level (style, composition and color theory understanding, control over what goes where) but it doesn't replace hand made methods, in the same way that handmade goods like clothes and jewelry nowadays are so much more expensive than something quick and cheap you can buy at Walmart because there's an inherent value to the care that's put into something done traditionally
The "Chad" meme guy is literally a (several) piece(es) of art.
As in, he's not real.
nOOOO
as an artist AI is awesome when you have no ideas at all, but if you have an specific idea it's more just a pain to work with 😂
I knew mark was going to leave, he obviously has his own huge channel but I really wanted him to stay. He was so fun with the crew.
who's listening to this podcast while rotoscopping ?
It's the end of digital art, presumably, but analog art will gain value from the over abundance of ai art. Since analog still has the scarcity.
M.
First, man I'll miss Mark
I hope that Mark guy starts a channel