150 grain 38 Special standard pressure hard cast wadcutters by Underwood Ammo, tested in a Ruger LCR

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  • 150 grain 38 Special standard pressure hard cast wadcutters by Underwood Ammo, tested in a Ruger LCR
    I've actually conducted two 5-shot chronograph tests on this ammunition, and the results were almost identical. I rolled in footage from the second test because the video was clearer. I also included card links to the following videos:
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Komentáře • 190

  • @63DW89A
    @63DW89A Před 2 lety +140

    The 38 Special is the quiet little guy with the bow tie in the corner cubicle. Not flashy, just quietly goes about his job with no drama. Then year-end analysis reveals he has done more with less and is the most reliable, consistent guy of all.

  • @skiphinson8620
    @skiphinson8620 Před 9 měsíci +22

    Wad cutters are highly underrated and under estimated in their ability by many folks. They just haven’t experienced the true performance of a regular old standard unassuming round.

  • @tires2burn
    @tires2burn Před 2 lety +76

    Finally. I have been carrying these in my LCR for about 5 yrs. Short barrel guns don't work with Hollow points. Wad cutters are brutal.

    • @crankybuzzard6867
      @crankybuzzard6867 Před rokem +6

      HAD my 357 LCR..... but arthritis had me switch to SP101. The wadcutters are terrific. Been using them for a while now. I'll have to try these! Thanks!

    • @tysonfromm5397
      @tysonfromm5397 Před rokem +5

      I wish federal still made micro hst

    • @tires2burn
      @tires2burn Před rokem +5

      @@tysonfromm5397 They are the best round ever for a snubby.

    • @TyroneLylesJr-vm5ot
      @TyroneLylesJr-vm5ot Před 10 měsíci +1

      ​@@tires2burnwhats your take on these over penetrating?

    • @tires2burn
      @tires2burn Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@TyroneLylesJr-vm5ot Most HP's won't open up from a snubby and will go straight through so what's the difference?

  • @markmeador
    @markmeador Před měsícem +4

    I have been loading my own for 30 years. My favorite 38 special is the 148 grain wadcutters. I have an old Lyman mold I got from my grandfather that he used for over 50 years. Even though people are fatter than they used to be, this still works.

  • @nickmccarthy5115
    @nickmccarthy5115 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Just ordered these and a box of 158 grain semi wadcutter hp by underwood because of your vids. Appreciate the info my snubby brother 👍🏻

  • @spiritof76forever81
    @spiritof76forever81 Před rokem +6

    Thank you for the informative video. I like the wadcutters in the LCR and this video makes me think it's a good choice.

  • @starkparker16
    @starkparker16 Před rokem +1

    Nice test. This was the exact video I was looking for.

  • @toneyholcombe7088
    @toneyholcombe7088 Před 2 lety +10

    I always enjoy your videos. You and Tools & Targets always provide the most relevant ballistic tests.

  • @johnnorman7708
    @johnnorman7708 Před 2 lety +23

    Years ago I read about a neighborhood pest eradication project. Full .38 Special wad cutters along with other calibers and bullets were used. The writer indicated that mild wad cutters worked extremely well for the porcupine infestation. Actually better than some larger calibers and bullets. I've used .38/357 enough to consider medium level .38 Special SWC loads to be very effective in the field. It's pretty "special".

  • @willittrue3856
    @willittrue3856 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for confirming that you would want to be on the delivery end of this standard pressure round. Good on underwood.

  • @normanmallory2055
    @normanmallory2055 Před 11 měsíci +7

    Great test !
    After 4 years away from full wadcutters , I have returned to shooting them , I went from 148 grain to 155 grain this time around !

  • @mkshffr4936
    @mkshffr4936 Před rokem +10

    Old school proves itself once more.

  • @russhayes4882
    @russhayes4882 Před rokem +2

    They are so overlooked !

  • @noahcount7132
    @noahcount7132 Před 2 lety +8

    This is the gel test I've been hoping to see ever since I became acquainted with this DEWC "lipstick" cartridge from Underwood. Thank you, Dave! Thank you, thank you!

    • @GeographyCzar
      @GeographyCzar  Před 2 lety +1

      Happy to oblige! You are most welcome, Noah!

  • @dangerman007
    @dangerman007 Před 2 lety +17

    This test proved the old adage that the wadcutter was a good defensive load because of the cutting. Nasty looking would and more than enough penetration to break a bone/hit a vital organ. Impressive!

  • @martyjewell5683
    @martyjewell5683 Před rokem +19

    Always great to see options for my .38 Snubbie, thanks. I have a Smith model 36 from 1966. Lotsa talk about shooting +P fodder. I prefer standard pressure cartridges and so far I dig the Sellier & Ballot 148gr wadcutters. Would like to try these out. They look boss.

  • @nwheeler1048
    @nwheeler1048 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Nice Video! As another commenter pointed out, a little slower puts you around 16" penetration. Double Tap has an excellent hard cast wadcutter that does 700-750 from an LCR; these and the Underwoods are the two loads I trust based on my needs at the time. Also, unlike most wadcutters, I find the Underwoods fairly easy to load with a speed strip.

  • @Sanguivore
    @Sanguivore Před 2 měsíci +3

    Holy hell, I’m buying these immediately.

  • @YellowHammer26
    @YellowHammer26 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks, really appreciate the test.👍🏻👍🏻

  • @ejsocci2630
    @ejsocci2630 Před 7 měsíci

    Another awesome video, thanks

  • @shanepitzer4126
    @shanepitzer4126 Před rokem

    Nice test, thanks for sharing!

  • @kfsrmn
    @kfsrmn Před rokem +5

    My LCR is loaded with Hornady 148 grain LHBWC. I load them a little on the warm side but very controllable. Best round for a snubby.

  • @willo7734
    @willo7734 Před rokem +3

    Nice testing! I’m going to grab some of those and try them in my j-frame S&W. looks like they perform better than hollowpoints when you have a 1.8 inch barrel.

  • @colloidalsilver1096
    @colloidalsilver1096 Před 28 dny

    Great video

  • @jtns2845
    @jtns2845 Před 2 lety +17

    love to see any tests of wadcutters, thank you. i load my j-frame 38sp revolvers with target wadcutters for softer recoil and higher, consistent, probability of hits. until handgun ammo comes with a proximity fuse only hits count.

    • @Wildwestwrangler
      @Wildwestwrangler Před rokem +1

      I don't worry about energy on a pistol round anymore either as until you get to the truly magnum rounds like at or above 44 mag you're energy is not high enough to be as big of a concern as penetration and shot placement!!! North of 1000ftlbs is where you start seeing much more explosive effects from energy. Under that they'll pretty much get the same results with good shot placement. Not saying that more energy isn't better even when you're looking at rounds under the 1k mark, it's just not the end all be all that people obsess over that has them arguing 9mm vs 45acp vs 40s&w and all that!!! They are all going to do their job with good shot placement!!! I remember my dad telling me growing up about an old lady that kept a 38 special next to her bed that woke up to 3 things coming in her room to rob her, in her own house. That old lady planted 2 in the ground, and tore up the 3rd guy and he ran out of there hurtin bad!!!

  • @matthaft2048
    @matthaft2048 Před rokem +8

    The problem is these straight gel tests don’t have a bone medium. Not only will it punch that nice cookie cutter hole through a human sternum but the bone pieces it punches out will act like shrapnel in soft tissue.
    When I carried a snubby i had the BB wadcutters in the cylinder and some Keith SWC hand loads for my reloads

  • @Mindhacker1961
    @Mindhacker1961 Před 4 měsíci

    I love the Underwood Wadcutters.

  • @markmeador
    @markmeador Před 3 měsíci

    After I did some experiments with different hollow points and had so many failure to expand issues in my j-frame revolver, I went to hard cast bullets. I now use my hand loaded 158 grain wadcutters. I get 700 fps with 4 grains of Unique powder. That is standard pressures but it kicks pretty hard in an airweight.

  • @johnnorman7708
    @johnnorman7708 Před 2 lety +8

    850 FPS isn't bad at all. I have used SWC of similar weight and speed. They demonstrated very good penetration at moderate velocity too.

  • @rowdyron4111
    @rowdyron4111 Před 2 lety +1

    Very interesting. Thanks.

  • @BatColonyEvictor
    @BatColonyEvictor Před 2 lety +2

    Very surprising! Good video of 👍

  • @barrykarpowich731
    @barrykarpowich731 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Thank you I shoot alot of load good show very good information

  • @janoycresvamlord7175
    @janoycresvamlord7175 Před 2 lety +4

    those are some strong puppies

  • @catherineharris4746
    @catherineharris4746 Před 8 měsíci

    Outstanding!💥👏👏👏👍👍👍👍👍

  • @michaelschaffer9165
    @michaelschaffer9165 Před 6 měsíci +4

    I use 38 Special Wadcutters from Choice Ammunition. They run about 800 in my LCR.

    • @linguisticman
      @linguisticman Před měsícem

      I just bought a box of those! Choice Hi-Tec coated .38 wadcutters rated at 800 fps. I figured they should give a little better performance than the target wadcutters from the major brands. But I haven't tried them yet.

  • @josephgirard9209
    @josephgirard9209 Před rokem +1

    Useful information.😁

  • @GlenMones-le6yf
    @GlenMones-le6yf Před měsícem

    I was thinking about for black bear defense and then you mentioned it.. not for grizzlies or large browns but for black bear I think it would make a great defense gun in the woods

  • @martinleicht5911
    @martinleicht5911 Před rokem +2

    What is the chamber pressure on these ? 🤔

  • @OOICU812
    @OOICU812 Před měsícem

    Good video. Subbed.

  • @Mojotown69
    @Mojotown69 Před 10 měsíci

    how do they compare to a hollowpoint shot the same way? Also are they lead?

  • @mkshffr4936
    @mkshffr4936 Před 6 měsíci

    Would be fun to test Buffalo Bore's standard pressure FBI load equivalent. From what I have seen they preform really well.

  • @229glock
    @229glock Před rokem +3

    Nice video. I would imagine the recoil impulse would be very much higher in an Airweight than, say 100 grain Lehigh. Easier on the paw and much faster with similarly deep penetration.

    • @Wildwestwrangler
      @Wildwestwrangler Před rokem +1

      It would not be bad in this load. Underwood does a great job of playing with the pressure curve which allows them to maximize the ballistic potential while cutting down on the recoil some.

  • @JamesJohnson-rp9px
    @JamesJohnson-rp9px Před rokem +2

    These are cast double-ended wadcutters (DEWC). They penetrate deeper than swaged hollow-base wadcutters (HBWC). If you want less penetration, try something loaded with HBWCs like Federal Gold Medal Match rounds.

    • @mikem.2078
      @mikem.2078 Před 3 měsíci

      So interesting. Curious why the hollow based would be less. Is it just about weight?

  • @cliftonwhittaker260
    @cliftonwhittaker260 Před 10 měsíci

    Surprising!

  • @jordanlee9246
    @jordanlee9246 Před 2 lety +5

    I wonder if the boards caused them to bounce back? Do you think they might have gone even further through only gel?

  • @hteadx
    @hteadx Před rokem +5

    Have you ever tested "target load" wadcutters in gel? Like from Fiocchi?

    • @GeographyCzar
      @GeographyCzar  Před rokem +2

      Nope. But getting requests... I almost bought a box last week, but I needed to use the money on some more 9mm for my 115 gr standard pressure series, which I've neglected long enough.

  • @funksoldier01
    @funksoldier01 Před rokem +1

    Does anyone have experience with these through a 3 inch revolver?

  • @johnwilde164
    @johnwilde164 Před 4 měsíci

    In this caliber and gun type, would these work better than Underwood's Extreme Defender?

  • @alexskillz45
    @alexskillz45 Před 2 lety +3

    Dang, I gotta get me a box of those.

  • @stevegimenez9981
    @stevegimenez9981 Před 2 lety +3

    That's pretty impressive have a short barrel

  • @Steve-yo4ld
    @Steve-yo4ld Před 11 měsíci +3

    Don't forget they're Hardcast, not just "Wadcutters" Also, Buffalo Bores version is rated at 850fps, not "hotter" than Underwood. These Hardcast are designed to penetrate deep, these are not "paper punchers"
    It's one of only two rounds I carry in my .38s! And both are Underwood!✌️

    • @TyroneLylesJr-vm5ot
      @TyroneLylesJr-vm5ot Před 10 měsíci +1

      How do you feel about these over penetrating? Whats the second round you carry

    • @Steve-yo4ld
      @Steve-yo4ld Před 10 měsíci

      @@TyroneLylesJr-vm5ot
      When in "Town," I carry UWs 158 semi-wadcutter hollow point! When hiking and have no concern for over penetration, I carry the Hardcast Wadcutter. It's a better option for 4 legged predators!

    • @TyroneLylesJr-vm5ot
      @TyroneLylesJr-vm5ot Před 10 měsíci

      @@Steve-yo4ld thanks man, im in between underwoods 158 slwchp standard or their 100 grain + p defender because its solid copper, have you noticed any bullet creep with the 158 swlchp? Whats your carry firearm? Mines is 642

    • @JN-se7ks
      @JN-se7ks Před 3 měsíci +1

      You are spot on!

  • @professorpewpuew
    @professorpewpuew Před 2 lety +4

    I like wadcutter loads but perhaps at that velocity I am thinking you are losing the lack of recoil that is part of the appeal.

    • @GeographyCzar
      @GeographyCzar  Před 2 lety +1

      Yes... they're not as bad as some of the Underwood +P loads, not to mention Buffalo Bore, but yes.

  • @Fudmottin
    @Fudmottin Před 2 lety +5

    Those things sure do chomp! How's the recoil? SKU 732 is still out of stock! I might be able to get a similar load using Berry's 148gr coper plated double base wadcutters. I've got load data for that type of load as it is fairly standard.

    • @GeographyCzar
      @GeographyCzar  Před 2 lety +4

      They recoil medium high. Not sure how to gauge it as my hands have changed mightily since I had carpal tunnel surgery 5 years ago. They are nowhere near as bad as the 158 grain "semi-wad-cutter" +P load by Underwood (which averages out close to 400 ft-lbs of energy in my tests).

    • @Fudmottin
      @Fudmottin Před 2 lety +3

      @@GeographyCzar I wonder how they would do in the 755fps range. That would be about 200 ft-lbs for the 158s.

    • @moosehead482
      @moosehead482 Před rokem +3

      I tried some in a 637 AirWeight a few months ago. I would describe it as very stout...

  • @DefaultUser1790
    @DefaultUser1790 Před rokem +1

    Man, I will always love a .38. Mine just always works.
    Might try this round out for animal encounters while backpacking!

  • @ratagris21
    @ratagris21 Před 2 lety +2

    Old skool rounds dont let you down for sure! Thanks for testing and sharing. 🎩🎱🏁🎯♠♦♣♥🌼🏵🌸💙💛🔱🌻🇺🇸🍀

  • @rickschmidt210
    @rickschmidt210 Před rokem +1

    Will this be OK in an old sw chief that isn't rated for plusP ?

  • @J.R.F.23
    @J.R.F.23 Před 10 měsíci +2

    I will likely be carrying this ammunition in my S&W 442 .38

  • @allenbolen9705
    @allenbolen9705 Před rokem +1

    Wadcutter is the way to go in a snuby!

  • @NvrchFotia
    @NvrchFotia Před 2 lety +4

    How is the recoil compared to something like a 125 gr +p gold dot?

    • @GeographyCzar
      @GeographyCzar  Před 2 lety +4

      It's pretty stout. I'd compare it to the 135 gr +P Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel. It surprises me that this is "Standard" pressure. But then again, I'm shooting it from a hybrid polymer-aluminum revolver so... take my opinion with a grain of salt.

    • @grandinquisitor1522
      @grandinquisitor1522 Před rokem +3

      @@GeographyCzar That's my thought here though. I have regular wadcutters, and the Gold Dot you mentioned. The latter is effective from what I've read. I like wadcutters for low recoil.

  • @JN-se7ks
    @JN-se7ks Před 2 lety +5

    No such thing as a perfect solution but I have carried these in my snub nose for years. Keep an open mind and watch enough ballistic videos and you will see why.

  • @Smith.Wesson.432UC
    @Smith.Wesson.432UC Před 4 měsíci

    plan to use .32 wadcutters in my S&W 632UC if and when it arrives.

    • @GeographyCzar
      @GeographyCzar  Před 4 měsíci

      the more I test them, the more I think wadcutters are the way to go

  • @jbw5923
    @jbw5923 Před 4 měsíci

    2 thoughts. If you use standard 158 grain wad cutters rated at 750 fps, they will lessen the penetration and be more comfortable to shoot in that LCRX.

  • @nunyabitnezz2802
    @nunyabitnezz2802 Před rokem +3

    Where’d you get that sweet copper-plated cylinder?

    • @GeographyCzar
      @GeographyCzar  Před rokem +2

      Online somewhere. Clearance price too. I don't think Ruger makes these anymore.

    • @robwilson3749
      @robwilson3749 Před 8 měsíci

      @@GeographyCzar cdnn used to sell the..

  • @lestergillis8171
    @lestergillis8171 Před rokem

    Is the "red coating" some kind of epoxy coat ?

    • @GeographyCzar
      @GeographyCzar  Před rokem +1

      No, I'm pretty sure it is a "powder" coat. Reloaders know more about this stuff than I. It melts at a lower temp than lead, so it can be used to make a kind of candy shell around a bullet.

    • @lestergillis8171
      @lestergillis8171 Před rokem +1

      @@GeographyCzar If you were to find out any more, can you make mention of it ? Maybe put in a link ?

    • @GeographyCzar
      @GeographyCzar  Před rokem +1

      @@lestergillis8171 this guy probably knows:
      lead bullets 4 life
      Check out his channel, he's a reloader and has to skirt the CZcams rules on "manufacturing" ammo, but he really knows his stuff and does the powder coats. I'm not sure he addresses the specific coatings used by major manufacturers like Federal and Underwood, but he knows the DiY side.

  • @dane5896
    @dane5896 Před rokem +3

    A black bear was spotted in my community. I took out the gold dot 135, and loaded these back in my 442. 🐻

    • @moreme40
      @moreme40 Před rokem +1

      I also have a 442. I don’t think I’d try that in brown bear country….

    • @SiliconDrifter
      @SiliconDrifter Před rokem

      How about grizzly country?

    • @billjohnsonseattle
      @billjohnsonseattle Před 6 měsíci

      @@SiliconDrifterin grizzly country a 38 would likely make him angrier as he eats you.

  • @scottcannon2242
    @scottcannon2242 Před 4 měsíci

    Organic gel is a reasonable analog for flesh in penetration. However wound damage is a very different thing since flesh is far more elastic than gel and doesnt tear nearly as easily. Looking at gel wound damage is pretty much meaningless

  • @BAmerican
    @BAmerican Před 3 měsíci

    Hows the recoil in the underwood vs normal 148 gr wadcutters?

    • @GeographyCzar
      @GeographyCzar  Před 3 měsíci

      Recoil is noticeably higher with the Underwood.

  • @Mrgunsngear
    @Mrgunsngear Před 5 měsíci +1

    🇺🇸

  • @tinsoldier5621
    @tinsoldier5621 Před 2 lety +1

    Can you do this in .357 magnum? Liked and subbed

    • @GeographyCzar
      @GeographyCzar  Před 2 lety

      I need to buy one. 357 has been on my wish list for years.

  • @mr.browning7.624
    @mr.browning7.624 Před rokem +4

    I like wadcutters especially for snubby guns and doubly so for recoil sensitive shooters, but over 20 inches and bouncing off of wood is way too much for self defense, and with velocity numbers like that you're losing the benefit of the lower recoil you usually get with wadcutters.
    Wadcutters are a great choice but I think this specific load has some problems

    • @grandinquisitor1522
      @grandinquisitor1522 Před rokem

      Right, it will not be low recoil with the high power wadcutters. I wonder if at that point you might as well go with high power, quality HPs such as a speer gold dot?

    • @mr.browning7.624
      @mr.browning7.624 Před rokem +1

      @GrandInquisitor personally, I would. Because if you're going to use a load with that kind of recoil you night as well use a quality JHP like a gold dot, a load like this just kind of defeats the purpose of using wadcutters for self defense

    • @grandinquisitor1522
      @grandinquisitor1522 Před rokem

      @@mr.browning7.624 I'm in agreement. I have both, the light WCs, normal +p HPs such as Gold Dot, and then the Underwood/Buffalo Bore super +P. I think out of a larger or steel gun, it's okay. But, the whole point of a wadcutter is low recoil, or, if one doesn't have one of the proven short barrel HPs.

    • @mr.browning7.624
      @mr.browning7.624 Před rokem +1

      @GrandInquisitor yes exactly, and I think it's important to specify low recoil particularly out of smaller guns (ruger LCR, J frame, etc) if you step up to a larger all steel gun. Then you may as well run a good hollowpoint because you have the advantage of the extra barrel length and better recoil control. Now is that to say that a wadcutter and a +p hollowpoint are going to feel the same out of larger gun? Of course not. But the gap between them is going to shrink quite a bit with a gun like that. I guess I just have a hard time seeing the point of a wadcutter load like this from a practical perspective

    • @evocati6523
      @evocati6523 Před rokem +3

      @@grandinquisitor1522 the point of wadcutters is penetration and not wondering if your HP will open up. Low recoil is secondary unless you are recoil sensitive for some strength or medical reason. I don't choose defensive ammo based on recoil (within reason), I choose it based on terminal performance

  • @markmuch1295
    @markmuch1295 Před rokem

    How about 158 grain lead semi-wadcutters?

    • @GeographyCzar
      @GeographyCzar  Před rokem

      They will punch through a 4" wooden post and keep going like it was never there.

  • @kendpruitt
    @kendpruitt Před rokem +2

    Flying soup cans..haha

  • @JollyOxe
    @JollyOxe Před 2 lety +1

    I'd love to be able to find some for sale!

    • @GeographyCzar
      @GeographyCzar  Před 2 lety

      Me too!

    • @KCBluesJams
      @KCBluesJams Před rokem +1

      Underwood has the new black cherry coated wad cutter for 38 special right now just got them delivered today 😊 same cartridge new coating 👍

    • @JollyOxe
      @JollyOxe Před rokem +1

      @@KCBluesJams Thanks! Picked up some today!

  • @3Pillers
    @3Pillers Před rokem +1

    👍

  • @northernninety7
    @northernninety7 Před rokem

    Hows the recoil?

    • @GeographyCzar
      @GeographyCzar  Před rokem

      Tougher than you'd expect for 860 fps at the muzzle.

  • @danoman5217
    @danoman5217 Před rokem +2

    21 inches is not over penetration. Lots of big target on 2 legs. No gun shot flys straight once it hits the target.

    • @GeographyCzar
      @GeographyCzar  Před rokem

      I think this bullet design - the "soup can" will continue straight when fired through just about anything... good idea for a round of testing!

    • @d.b.1698
      @d.b.1698 Před rokem

      You are correct

  • @danielleclare2938
    @danielleclare2938 Před rokem +3

    Wadcutters leave a big hole if nothing else. Over penetration with no energy or almost none is job well done IMO. Try 200 Grain WC or RN and see what you get. Might be tumble. The British
    .38-200 was their Military version of .38 SW with a 200 gr lead round nose called a manstopper. I digress.

    • @GeographyCzar
      @GeographyCzar  Před rokem +1

      I think Gun Sam tested some of those 200 grain bullets... have to look for them.

  • @dmdmdmdmdmdm
    @dmdmdmdmdmdm Před 10 měsíci +1

    😊

  • @johnkellmer5133
    @johnkellmer5133 Před 2 lety +5

    Very impressive. I have a better appreciation for soup cans.

  • @TheDustysix
    @TheDustysix Před 7 měsíci

    Dear Underwood; A .38 Special 200 gr. LRN at 720 fps out of a 2" snub would be fabulous. Hint, Hint.

  • @triggeredsear5430
    @triggeredsear5430 Před 2 měsíci

    These leave my Uberti 5.5" Stallion at just over 1000 fps.

  • @jimmywilliamson8540
    @jimmywilliamson8540 Před 9 měsíci

    I think these companies need to advertise comma something to the effect... We make the ammunition that you could easily make at home. But don't have the time or inclination to do so period enjoy.

  • @mkshffr4936
    @mkshffr4936 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Probably not over penetration on a wild boar. 😇

  • @hammerhead222
    @hammerhead222 Před 2 lety +1

    Yo!

  • @danoman5217
    @danoman5217 Před 11 měsíci +2

    The average male has a 40 inch waist. 20 inches is perfect

  • @jimnagel5611
    @jimnagel5611 Před 2 měsíci

    IF THE BAD GUY IS A 280 POUND BODY BUILDER OR A 300 POUND BEHEMOTH IN FULL WINTER CLOTHING -- THAT IS NOT OVER PENETRATION -- I'LL TAKE THAT ANYDAY OVER A ROUND THAT EXPANDS LIKE A FLOWER IN THE MORNING BUT ONLY GOES IN 10 INCHES OR SO

  • @claymcbunch1013
    @claymcbunch1013 Před rokem +1

    Def gonna have a leak on both sides.

  • @veroman007
    @veroman007 Před rokem

    Did anyone ever tell you you sound like Michael Mckean The actor

  • @RoadTraveler
    @RoadTraveler Před rokem

    algorithm

  • @bruced.370
    @bruced.370 Před 3 měsíci

    Speed 1.5X helps watching this. Or greater

    • @GeographyCzar
      @GeographyCzar  Před 3 měsíci

      As always, the recommended speed setting for my narratives, lol!

  • @tywatts7834
    @tywatts7834 Před 7 měsíci

    Audue

  • @craigdamage
    @craigdamage Před 2 lety +3

    No way that is "standard pressure" by a wide margin. Most 148gr wadcutters are doing about 700fps out of a 2". This is a deep penetrating and bone breaking self defense load for sure.

    • @grandinquisitor1522
      @grandinquisitor1522 Před rokem +3

      Underwood and Buffalo Bore somehow achieve +P velocities with 'standard pressure' via some kind of powder mix. However, those 'standard pressure' end up being as stout recoil as normal +p.

  • @guaporeturns9472
    @guaporeturns9472 Před 5 měsíci

    Lethal little Campbells tomato soup can

  • @squibload58
    @squibload58 Před 4 měsíci

    I do not accept the concept of overpenetration. A center of mass shot through the sternum, going through the heart, which breaks the spine on the way out in a 300 lb bad guy can't fail. Whereas, a hollow point CAN fail.
    The concept of overpenetration and the goal of stopping in the magical distance of 12 to 18 inches of gel is an excuse to develop and sell overpriced ammo. Don't fall for it. Most of them fail to deliver what they promise. (Hell, you already know they lie about the velocity.) A heavy-for-caliber LSWC or RNFP at low velocity (and low recoil) will get the penetration you need. I saw his bullets go through the entire gel column with very little recoil and thought, "That's what I want!"
    Just remember that the 4th Rule of Gun Safety always applies, even in a gun fight. "Know your target and what's behind it." Hollow points don't give you a pass on that rule.

  • @HalfCrazy520
    @HalfCrazy520 Před rokem +1

    Dumb question, but why not simply carry a little 9mm? I mean, I don't carry either a 9mm or a .38, but it seems like you'd be getting better ballistic performance along with much greater capacity. Have you seen how good Federal HST 124 gr 9mm rounds expand from a 3" semi-auto?
    Have a look at this (this is why I carry a .45) but it shows 9mm performing quite well from a short barrel. It's short and to the point...
    czcams.com/video/DGk9U7xt5I4/video.html

    • @la_old_salt2241
      @la_old_salt2241 Před rokem +2

      Some people just prefer revolvers. But most of us will carry depending on what threat we are most likely expecting to encounter. I typically carry a LCR chambered in. 327 FM and loaded with Hornady Critical Defense loads during the summer. I'll switch that up to 327 100gr SJSP Federal or Buffalo Bore hardcast full wadcutters during the winter months for better penetration through heavy winter coats. The Buffalo Bore 32 S&W Long hardcast wadcutters and semiwadcutters do surprisingly well, with very comfortable recoil. But if I feel necessary, I'll pack a 1911 or other option.

    • @lm1174
      @lm1174 Před rokem +3

      Because .38 has been a self defense man stopper for 100 years + and its a revolver. You can shoot it out of your pocket or jacket if you have too and its more reliable. Youre welcome.

    • @HalfCrazy520
      @HalfCrazy520 Před rokem

      @@lm1174 Five round capacity. Slow to reload. Reloading requires fine motor skills which we lose under stress.
      Recoil, even with standard pressure .38 special loads, is punishing.
      Mastering the double action pull takes a lot of practice. Add to that the crappy sights and the short sight radius. Being that no one wants to shoot a J-frame a lot, they won't practice with it as much as they should to stay proficient.
      .38s out of a barrel that short perform poorly.

    • @lm1174
      @lm1174 Před rokem +1

      @@HalfCrazy520 You do understand that cops carried revolvers for decades and they served them very well. Dade shooting is really is the only time they were a problem. I understand we all try to be prepared for any situation but we are NEVER prepared for all situations maybe if you carry a rifle around. If you think someone is after you then i wouldnt carry a revolver..Youre going to need two striker fired pistols and security. 🤣

    • @HalfCrazy520
      @HalfCrazy520 Před rokem

      @@lm1174 " *You do understand that cops carried revolvers for decades and they served them very well* "
      Do you understand that 1) over those decades many advancements were made in firearms and ammunition? 2) the Dade shootout was not the ONLY time revolvers were a problem and, because of that, departments were already transitioning to semi-auto 9mm pistols? 3) police departments no longer issue revolvers for good reason? 4) I'm not a cop and don't really care what they carry?
      Life is a series of compromises. Choose your compromise. Mine is something I can conceal in reasonable comfort, holds at least 10 rounds, and is ballistically effective... but more importantly, something I shoot often and shoot well.

  • @drewpackman2929
    @drewpackman2929 Před 2 měsíci

    Camera leaves a lot to be desired.

  • @thegoon3088
    @thegoon3088 Před 8 měsíci

    Underwoods 150gr Wadcutters or their 158gr Semi-Wadcutters or their 100gr Maximum Expansions or their 100gr Xtreme Defender fluted monolithic?