How does Apple keep getting away with this?!?
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- čas přidán 30. 06. 2024
- Google just launched their new Pixel 6a, a budget phone that's designed to punch well above its weight class with premium features, design, and the flagship Tensor chip. But with Tensor vs Apple Silicon and Android vs iPhone on display here, how is it that Apple can get away charging a lot more money for phones that aren't as premium? I mean look at the iPhone SE vs Pixel 6a, it's not even a close phone comparison. Today we'll discuss why iPhone plays by a different set of rules....
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For me it’s not mainly the ecosystem. I’ve been using the first gen iPhone SE for the past 5 years. I downloaded the latest iOS update on it yesterday. It still runs pretty smoothly for my purposes after all these years. Which android phone provides this kind of support?
I’ve been using the 16 inch MacBook ‘19 model for the past 3 years. It runs and feels like it was bought yesterday.
All of this really matters to me coz I don’t like to frequently change devices. Not due to monetary reasons primarily, but for stability and convenience
I have one iphone SE from 2017! is really surprice how is that really feels so smooth on IOS 15.6! U cant take a samsung galaxy S7 and have the exp.
@@josesimonguerreroflores8869 Indeed. This is why I've been debating switching to iPhone as I'm beyond done with the lack of real support that these OEMs give their devices. You either jump each year to a new one or you need to be willing to flash custom ROMs to support it yourself. It's fine if you're a nerd, but not for the average consumer (like grandma).
@@experimental0000 even for power users, it just becomes a time consuming and money wasting process, since a lot of the time, rooting and installing custom roms doesn’t make a difference after about a year of using in that state
@@josesimonguerreroflores8869 That's true. I have been an Android user since the Samsung Galaxy SII. I will be switching to iPhone mainly because I'm tired of replacing my Android phone every three years when it is no longer supported. My current phone, a OnePlus 7 Pro in Nebula Blue is three years old now and Oxygen OS Android 12 is the last update it will get. I dont want the hassle of trying to install a custom ROM for Android 13.
iPhone 14 Pro Max will be my 1st iPhone, but my third Apple device. I have the M1 Mac Mini and the 11" M1 iPad Pro.
All valid points (reading the comments before mine) but the "closed garden walls" philosophy Apple is so proud of is truly limiting for me. I love Android's granular control and my workflow depends on it.. I've tried more than once to make the switch to Apple, but it's either jumping all the way into the ecosystem or bust (and it's financially difficult to make the jump all at once, even if just by buying an iPhone and a Mac computer)
My point is... Yes, Apple does give terrific long-term software support, but they are simply not for everyone. That does not mean it's better or worse than the alternatives, just different.
Its because with apple, their software is consistent. With Google, so many variation on the android software can leave a bad taste in users. At least with apple, even if they dont have the best state of the art specs, they know for sure what the minimum user experience will be.
apple have the best cpu's in the game, and they that good that they don't even need 8gb of ram to beat flagship android phones, their ram management is amazing
google can make exclusive version of android for their pixel lineup, they have their own CPU now
@@javieroargubi than why are they not doing this
Exactly. Also Google needs to really standardize deployment of software updates, an area of that Apple has had down pat for the past decade now. Offer a guaranteed four years support regardless of device OEM. and up the minimum requirements for android because there are a lot of terrible low end devices that really foul the name.
@@s._81 That’s because EVERYTHING is literally designed to work together and is thus optimised into infinity.
She had it pegged. It’s the ecosystem. If you have any other Apple products the way they integrate just can’t be beat. So unless you want to replace all your tech at the same time you won’t do it. When I switched from Samsung to Apple I only had to worry about the phone and a Galaxy watch. Now it would be the phone, MacBook Air, Apple Watch, Mac Mini, and iPad. Not going to happen! Can’t see myself going back to Android. Ever!
@@memm7846 I enjoy being stuck in it. I had nothing but trouble with my WIndows phones and my Android phones. Had trouble with my Windows based PC laptops too. Never had a blip of trouble with my Motorola flipphone(it was not smart) OR any of 6 iPhones I have owned or ANY of the MacBooks or MacBook Pros or iMacs. Or any of the iPads that I have owned. The only problems I had with an iPhone is an iPhone 5 that I accidentally went swimming with in Hawaii, but I suspect that was user error. Had a brand new one shipped to me at my resort in a day. Thanks Verizon!
Apple is a textbook monopoly, and I hate the fact that they can get away with selling inferior products like the SE series just because of a locked down ecosystem. Some of their stuff is really good, but I refuse to support their business practices.
Its a downward spiral apple products are not the best in almost any category, waaaaaay over priced, overhyped, lack any customization and forget about repairs, but if you already own one or two garbage apple products, it's much easier to justify getting the next one. The ecosystem is a joke - you can do almost all of those things on an android... You just have to set it up first, and people are lazy/nit tech savvy. But dang it if you value your time apple will save you tons of it... Cuz it just works (just dont install updates on release)
I hope her best friend has a android phone 📱 😂 I never text anyone with an android dam girl 👧 I have both iOS and Samsung android device ZFold 3 5G 😝
8:06 it’s giving Shein
Lmaooooo yikes! Google has to go back to the drawing board. 🤣🤣🤣
Putting Tensor in an A series is a return to what made the Nexus 4 and 5 great phones. Powerful, all of the google features, none of expensive and optional frills.
With Apple there's always consistent build quality, extensive software support, and a rich ecosystem.
With Google you never know how long they'll stand behind their product, or just get bored with it and move on to next year's model. How's your gesture radar getting on, and maybe astrophysicists have abandoned JWST and are now using astrophotography mode?
Except Google doesn't do this, right? They have a public facing page on their support website that clearly states for each model of the Pixel how long they will be providing feature updates and how long they will be providing security updates.
@@Xankill3r My 4a has been plagued with bad software since the release of Android 12, and so have many other Pixel users' phones. I've had battery issues, glitches, inconsistencies, freeze-ups, and a generally poor experience since October 2021. They often take months to fix issues, and my battery issue doesn't seem to be fixed even though it's been 10 months. Google has a history of experimenting publicly; just look at their discontinued chatting apps: Google Talk, Google Allo, Google Hangouts, Google Buzz, and Google Video. Look at Google+, Picasa, Meebo, etc. Look at them downgrading Google Photos to no longer do free photo storage for compressed photos. Tbh idc if they support this phone for Android 13 (which they will do). I'm going to buy an iPhone.
Apple needs to provide extensive software support because they won't let anyone else touch their walled garden with a 10 foot pole. You can sideload android 12 onto phones from 2013, and they'll work perfectly, meanwhile once apple drops support for an iphone it's dead. Even jailbreaks can't save it.
@@accountid9681 Maybe work perfectly ... maybe certain device features won't work at all.
Driver compatibility isn't guaranteed, and you takes what you gets.
Meanwhile, while an iPhone is supported - longer than _any_ Android phone's official support - it's guaranteed to work. Just take it in to an Apple store if you need support. Oh, that's right - there is no Android store, is there? Just the handset maker's store and they're really not responsible for the OS, so their support can only go so deep. And you don't get an OS release most often until the next release is available because of the length of time it takes to apply the handset maker's mods, and get _that_ through the handset maker's and carrier's QA teams.
That's a long time for a phone feature to be broke - whereas Apple normally issues fixes promptly which are available to all supported devices.
There's good and bad sides to Apple's paternalism - depends on whether your phone is your hobby or just something you just want to work.
@@vernearase3044 "There is no Android store" Well there's no "IOS store" either. The company behind the phone provides support, not the OS devs, though sometimes there may be overlap. Also my pixel 6 gets 4 years of updates from google (and then likely another 8 from the modding community). Apple is dropping support for products released in 2018 right now, so they're about on par with the industry. Android's notorious failure in the update space has not been a problem among the higher end brands since 2015. Also repair shops for android phones are not all first party, I can get a screen replaced in an hour by a local repair shop, Apple's monopolistic practices prevent that ease of repair in the iPhone space.
apple is just a package deal unmatched tbh. everything works great together and it’s really hard to find something similar elsewhere.
that introduction was crazy 😆
You are making the same argument for people not to switch from Windows. They are used to it, their friends use it, etc. Other platforms may be better, but that does not matter. Not everyone has all the other Apple products or has friends who are brand snobs. Lock-in is a bad thing. A lot of people are hurting for money now. Part of the reason why Pixel phones are not as popular is because Google has not pushed them as much and has changed direction several times. iPhone to Samsung phones would be a more "apples-to-apples" comparison (no pun intended).
I would argue that there's nothing locking you in to windows if you're an average user. There's hardly any ecosystem. Only thing I can think of is video games and more hardware options.
ehh... you're kinda right cuz the ppl I know have either have intel Macs or Windows. Only few ppl have Apple Silicon Macs like me. They all have Windows tho 😐
@@Progan666 There was. Take for example, Internet Explorer. Back in the day, many websites only worked on IE on Windows. MS Office once had proprietary formats which MS tried to keep competing apps from using reliably. MS even tried to make a Windows-only version of Java, but got struck down by Sun and the courts. MS tried but failed to coopt MP3s and DVDs with WMA and WMV formats. At one time Bill Gates talked about Windows running everywhere. Microsoft's lock-in was wrong when they did it. Apple's lock-in is bad for consumers now (as is Facebook's and even Google's, although not quite as bad).
Yeh you can compare iphone to galaxy phones, but it doesn't change the reason why people aren't switching over to the latest galaxy phone. Despite samsung pumping millions of dollars into the advertisement, the vast majority of people just don't care about phones in general. The best analogy I can make is to car tires. Everyone needs tires for their car, and it is something you use every single day, however the average person doesn't know a single thing about tires. Meanwhile there are car enthusiast who know about the latest Michelin Sport 4 and Continental extreme contact sport, and would say things like why are all these people sticking with michelin or bridgestone tires when Pirelli tires that are cheaper, have betters grip, handle cornering better, blah blah blah. That is the thing about most phone user is that they don't give a rat's ass about phones. If my old phone works great, then I'll just keep buying newer versions of my old phone.
That's true, for me I'm really into the Google ecosystem. Pixel 6, Google Buds, Chromebooks and Linux machines, Google Home, Android Auto, Fossil Gen 5 (getting the Pixel watch when it comes out), and it all just syncs with eachother like he mentioned.
CZcams keeps giving me ads for this phone and their selling points are of the type "it saves your passwords for you". Wow what a reason to switch.
Ya that’s all it offers . Ignore that silly phone
Yup, google likes to steal you passwords
@@scheitinjebroek That wasn't even my point. What I'm saying is that Google is trying to sell me a phone by listing ambiguous features available on every phone on sale today.
They literally say it has cameras. Wow. A password logger so you don't have to remember them yourself. Wow. For the moments that matter. Wow. Unique, like you. Wow.
Google is literally trying to sell me a phone the same way Apple might have. Except, Google isn't Apple so nobody who this could work on will give a crap, just like Luke said in the video.
Spot on. And you didn’t even mentioned the hardware issues that some of these pixels had in the past, I was excited when I bought the first one until the mic issue made it unusable as a smartphone, and this one is no different due to the Tensor chip. Nowadays, to me at least, the best thing about the pixel phone is that it’s possible to port the camera app to other Android devices.
Port camera app? What is that?
@@MissionControlTet some crazy Indian devs extract the camera app from a Google pixel, tweak some bits, and port to other Android devices. Basically any Android phone from a major brand is compatible to run this app and it makes wonders to the photos, especially on mid-range devices.
@@MrAndreCoutinho where can I find that? I’d like to try it.
@@myrealusername2193 just search your phone’s brand and model here on CZcams for a tutorial, you’ll also find a link to install on your device. Example: Samsung Galaxy a50 GCam.
Yes, there have been major issues with the Pixel 6 series, but most of them have been fixed after March/April. I had my Pixel 6 Pro since the beginning of May and the only bug I could point out is widgets take a second to load after exiting out of an app. There have been many reports that Android 13 not only fixes a lot of these remaining bugs, but also makes the phone run even smoother. So I see this as more of a one-off thing than a recurring thing...Google only started using their own chips this year, and Android 12 was a HUGE overhaul to the operating system. And as for the smaller issues, there are many, many instances of these issues in phones from practically all brands (just look at SimpleAlpaca's videos on how some iPhones significantly slow down when updating to a new iOS version). So yes, Google shouldn't just get away with releasing such a buggy phone, but that also doesn't mean all their future releases will have the same fate.
“It’s giving SHEIN!” I’M SCREAMINGGGG
I have a few Android phones that I keep around in order to use as additional phones, but I don't think I'd ever be able to daily drive a phone that isn't an iPhone. I love how well integrated it is with my Mac and I use quite a few other Apple products and services and have been largely happy with them.
congrats on 400k!!!!🎊🎉🎊🎉
For my situation, it started with iPhone 4 in 2011 and I was windows laptops user. Then my lenovo laptop just died after two years of the purchase and before that I had dell which also didn’t last for a long period. I tried my sister in law MacBook Pro in 2015 and I was fascinated by the system overall way much better than windows. Then I decided to switch to MacBook Pro and I noticed how things works perfectly with apple devices ecosystem. Now fast forward to present; I have iPhone 11 Pro Max, Apple Watch series 4, Apple TV, MacBook Pro 16 inch 2021 M1 Pro, AirPods Pro, iPad Pro 13 inch fifth gen, I am totally locked in.
Thanks for this valuable info, Luke!!
I have an iPhone 13 mini and purchased the Pixel 6a for a great price of $150 (after trade-in of my Pixel 3a XL). And that includes the Pixel Buds for free. I like both iOS and Android so I plan to swap my SIM card when I get bored with one.
if you like both iOS and Android than you really like technology
"This is Shaye, she's perfectly normal"
Suuuure Luke, your partner is DEFINITELY not a cyborg you created from a human test subject and spare Retina MacBook parts.
This is a good info to explain my cellphone customers on deciding to use or not these Pixel phones... they simply won't work on certain networks/carriers!
The SE series sells because it’s pretty much a boomer phone. I dread having to teach my 70 year old dad multi-touch.
Age has very little to do with technical ability. Boomers, as you call them, were the generation that literally invented this tech. Steve Jobs would be 67 were he still alive.
@@jonvincentmusic yeah because all the boomers worked in the tech industry 🤷♂️
I was a diehard android user for years until about 2 years ago. I bought an base iPad at Costco as android tablets had given me a horrible time. It was great, so I decided to try an iPhone. The hardest thing was getting my texts over, but it eventually worked with some third party program. An Apple Watch quickly replaced my Samsung watch and AirPods followed shortly after. Then google killed cloud print and that was this final straw with them. They killed so many services I’d relied on in the past, that I was done. We ditched our Chromebooks for MacBooks and now we are an Apple family. I don’t think we would go back unless Apple totally loses it. I lost trust in Google, and my wife would never give up the way things work together so well. I used to shop around more, but now it will be a choice between the regular iPhone or Pro.
You just made me realize one important thing.
I’m trying to find a new phone as my iPhone 6s with 16Gb just can’t do it anymore (and trust me, I tried…two new batteries, external memory etc.). So I went on and decided to buy a „dumb”, but thought out phone, simple, e-ink, meditative one, Mudita (something like a Light Phone). But it was a stupid decision and I sent it back. To be honest it was horrible - the signal was super weak, the sound was awful, and it worked in a speed of an iceberg moving downhill…It was a cold turkey move, and it didn’t work.
BUT.
You made me realize that maybe a mid step is in order. Maybe I’m not ready for a super dumb phone yet, but it’s hard to make this step because of the apple ecosystem! This is what I need to say goodbye to!
Long story short, I might actually concider going off Apple from now on. Sometimes it’s all it takes - one sentence. :) So keep at it, keep doing the vids, because you may never know how meaningful it can be for someone you don’t even know :))
Apple still gets away with overpricing their iPhones. In what universe would a company get away with 2018 hardware on a phone made in 2022? I hate the notch and thick bezels on my iPhone
that 2018 hardware still outperforms current flagships. Go figure.
I did switch to Android from an iPhone after the iPhone 6, after owning every single iPhone before that. Still have a MacBook and an iPad though. It's fine. The hassle isn't as bad as people make it out to be.
How to get a girl if you were Luke: What are your thoughts on the new M2 MacBook Air thermal throttling? 🤣🤣🤣
Great video! I'm neck deep in the Apple Ecosystem but consider switching to an android phone every time they come out with a new fancy form factor that bends or flexes or has RGB lights (oooo shiny), but keep coming back to my boring old iPhone for all the reasons your girlfriend mentioned. That being said, I'm not switching any time soon but Apple really needs to be stepping up it's game and taking a few more risks with it's form factors or it will get the rep of growing "stale".
BTW, smart switch on samsung phones transfers over most things from iOS. The only two exception I found were passwords and 3rd party apps. Everything else: notes, calender, contacts, photos and videos, and files will go through.
The Apple ecosystem is incredibly easy to use and supported by very good hardware and software that just "work". I bought other earbuds but once I bought the Apple AirPods and experienced how easy and reliably they operate on all my Apple devices, iPhone, iPad, MacBook Pro, Mac Studio, and Apple TVs, there is no way I could go back.
I have enough problems in my life that I don't need my devices added to my issues. With Apple you get reliable devices with very good support including software OS updates that go on for quite a long time.
nice video luke
It started out years ago as the design and the fact iPods just worked the best as a music player. Almost 20 years later, and it's become the ecosystem for sure.
Old guy here.
I bought my first Apple product, a 2011 iMac, in January, 2021.
I no longer have that, but I do have two iMacs, an M1 MacBook Air, an iPhone and an Apple Watch.
I can FaceTime (maybe not on the watch) or iMessage from all of them.
To me it's feels like looking for an automatic car, and only get manual cars recommended.
Like I can't even use that, cause I only have an automatic license.
I'm not going to go through the hassle of learning to drive stick and renew my license when I can just buy something that works instantly¿
(Reference to AirDrop, passwords, iCloud, photos, websites, remote to Apple TV, so on)
Where do they have licenses for different transmissions??
@@tdrb42 oh, we have that in Norway at least, probably other places in Europe as well. Didn't know it wasn't a thing other places🧐
the setup and transfer is something I didn't consider... that is a huge point. The watch has probably the biggest stay in Ecosystem after iMessage.
Huh, my 6a arrived while I was on vacation too! I'm honestly really loving mine haha.
Great video! Do a video about what you think about Jon Rettinger's video about Apple. That would be interesting. I bought into the ecosystem long ago. Like your girlfriend I literally never even think about an Android phone. Cheers!
Thanks! 🙏🏼
6:36 same, it comes down to software for me... the android experience has always felt cheap, clunky, over complex, and not the same across phones.
Don’t forget Home and Apple TV along in that ecosystem. But I’ll replace my battery once before getting a new phone. I’ve only had 3. iPhone 5, 7 & 11. It also have 3 Apple TV 4K (2 first gen and one second) a iPad mini, iPad Air and iPad 2019 and a M1 MacBook Air. Just purchased a Mac Mini yesterday for a small office. Everything just syncs.
"No thoughts head empty". Smart and funny - love it! 🤣
Nobody cares because most of us are so deep into the Apple ecosystem that we can’t get out without spending thousands of dollars. For example, I own a 13 Pro Max, MacBook Pro (for work), Mac Mini (for home), Apple Watch 7, AirPods Pro and the monkey wrench is my Samsung Note. My Note collects dust because if I put my SIM card in, it becomes a monkey wrench for everything. I cannot text from my Mac, my watch is just becomes a watch, etc. My Note to me is so much better (not as fast though) than my 13 Pro Max. Split screen multitasking, 2K 120hz resolution, endless customization and a lot more. I’m just too Apple eco deep.
For me it’s also that apple products, especially iPhones, keep their worth more and also work well for longer. I still use my MacBook Pro retina late 2013 without a problem and I’ve used my iPhone 8 for a long time. You pay more but it just feels more reliable. Also on a superficial level I just prefer the way it looks from the outside but also the interface.
You are THEE Apple tech reviewer, and in fact MY Apple Tech reviewer .... I respect your opinions! Never really thought I'd leave Windows for the Mac or anything else, but Apple has won my trust. I wish I had done the switch sooner.
The point is that people don’t have to throw money at Apple every year or even ever few years. Many people do but they don’t have to.
When I started to buy Apple products, the reason was way different. My story started with iPod in mid 2000s. There was no ecosystem, no iPhone, no iMessage, no AirPods.
I got an iPod because it was so popular and it worked so well, even with my Windows XP PC home. After having years of fun with my iPod, I got my first iPhone. Then Mac, iPod, more Macs and iPhones and then Apple started to focus on the ecosystem. Now I have dozens of Apple products at home, and there is no way I would buy an Android phone or tablet because of this.
My initial respect for macOS from playing with my dad’s work laptops got me into a Mac, and my terrible Huawei P20 experience after upgrading from my Samsung S4 I had for several years got me into an iPhone. The ecosystem kind of sucks you in, especially on the phone side of things
However a recent run in with the Genius Bar is leaving me with some doubts about staying within the ecosystem. I haven’t daily driven a Mac in a while, which makes things easier to move away from
To be fair, Huawei was never the best software experience. My friend still uses a P30. It just does not hold up, even against a bloody Pixel 3a in photos for example.
yeah, the Genius Bar has been degraded over time. Also, (I can't speak for the US, but Europe) the insane waiting times for repairs are unacceptable. People come to our shop to get their phones fixed within 1-3 hours, meanwhile the simplest repairs like screen or battery replacements take about a week at the Apple Store. It's actually sad that Apple has given up in that department. I also see huge waiting lines every time I walk into our Apple Store, combined with the unorganized manner that cases are handled (which I call the Starbucks method) really drive people away by not giving them a good customer experience.
@@PvtAnonymous apple store munich can’t complain about anything
As someone who dual wield Android and iPhone alongside iPad, MacBook, airpods, the iPhone is actually the most limiting device on its own.
I have the iPad or MacBook for airdrops at work, but we can also just use signal, slack or Whatsapp to transfer files
I’m from Argentina, and I think, here happen something like that. Teenagers buy iPhones and they spend a lot of money on it, because Avery body wants to have one. The difference is that here the salary is around 400 dollars and iPhones are more expensive than USA, here an iPhone 13 is around 1000 or 1100 dollars.
Prices are not different
@@vivelafrance8400 but an iPhone 13 not the 13 pro the 13 pro is around 1300 or more. Sorry for my spelling. I’m not the best on English…
That's so true...these days it's as much about how well devices work together as how good a particular one is.
It's kinda funny I'm not locked within the "walled garden" but out of it...my first device was a Windows laptop (that actually looks kinda like the 2015-2019 silver MacBook but anyway), so when I got a hand-me-down iPhone 5, I quickly found out how bad the integration is. Keep in mind this was iOS 10 but it took me 3 HOURS to get a custom ringtone on it the first time, and it just wouldn't work the second time. File management was also nonexistent on that iOS version which meant I had no idea where to look for (or how to transfer to/from my laptop) any files apart from jpgs. That got me so frustrated I ended up switching to the Samsung Galaxy S6 a year ago (that was also lying around in the house) instead of waiting to get a new phone.
Now I daily drive the Pixel 6 Pro and it's imo the best phone I could've got-Android works much better with Windows (especially when Android Nearby Share works on PC), the cameras are amazing, and I find myself in the Google ecosystem of apps and online services A LOT.
If I were to look for a replacement for my now 6-year old laptop, the MacBook Pro M1 Max would probably technically be the best choice for me, as I value both portability and power (in video editing mostly), but getting one would mean giving up the newfound integration in Android-Windows 11 and that I would have to relearn everything I already know how to do in Windows. So in a way, there's the Apple Ecosystem, then there's the Non-Apple Ecosystem...and I'm stuck in the latter (at least there are multiple brands here to choose from though!)
Also, I'm kinda lucky my friend group uses messaging apps other than the default one, so I'm not facing the "green bubble" dilemma yet, but I can definitely see it happening...I'm the only one in the group with an Android. (I would love one day to show someone that comments on the green bubbles how in Google Messages, you can change the color of the messages based on the theme lol)
“It’s giving Shein” ☠️🤣☠️🤣
Very Interesting perspective Luke. And this, that is to avoid getting 'trapped' into the Apple Ecosystem is partially why I have insisted on diversifying my devices. For Years I had only used a couple different iterations of the Ipod & I have always used & liked Android Phones (I have never had an Iphone) & I grew up using & have to date only had Windows PC's. I haven't ever had a Mac (Yet). However due to my large Itunes Collection Both Music, Movies & TV Shows & the fact that the Ipod is no more 😭😭& even if was still being Produced, the old largest storage 256 GB, my library exceeds that & due to both the evolution of the Mac with Apple Silicon, & it basically blowing Windows PC's out of the water performance wise & needing to connect wireless earbuds, no matter which brand you go with to a device on the go to listen to my collection, I will be (painfully) making the move over to Mac (hopefully when they release the rumored 15" Macbook with either M2 or hopefully M3 & do the same with the 24" Imac. Android doesn't bother me &/or give me headaches & maybe Android doesn't get updated for as long as Apple Products do, but I am the type of person who doesn't prioritize updates so much over long-term usability. I tend to run my devices into the ground as opposed to wanting to upgrade every time something new comes out. Like for example the windows PC I am on is like either 12 or 13 years old. And so yes, it's super old & slow & I realize that it's time to upgrade & make my move over to Mac & I am preparing for that. I don't 'need' a sole ecosystem for ease of use.
People adopt apple's ecosystem because there is no other brand that makes their devices work together so well. Replying to messages or answering a phone call from your computer is really convenient. Being able to pair your airpods to your phone and now it is also paired to all your other apple devices is really convenient. Being able to send files from your phone to your computer to another person's apple device through airdrop is really convenient. While apple don't always have the hardware advantage, they have the software advantage. The average person that use a macbook don't even know what RAM is or the difference between memory and storage. For the average user, the disadvantage of switching to windows and losing access to imessage and airdrop is going to a lot more impactful than the slight advantage of a faster CPU or more RAM.
I actually did attempt to switch to Android earlier this year. I mean, I went all in. phone, watch, tablet, the whole bit. It just didn't work as well together. Ended up back in the Apple ecosystem and haven't looked back.
I switched to the iPhone SE mostly because I was tired of manufacturers ditching support for devices a year or two after release. You had pretty capable hardware (even in the mid-range) stuck with old software with occasional security updates. Also, despite the many options of phones running Android, not all are available everywhere. For example, I was interested in getting a Pixel or OnePlus phone, but since they weren't available in my country, I would've needed to import them and wouldn't have access to the manufacturer's warranty in my country. Since iPhones are generally available thru carriers and retailers, plus Apple having official presence in many countries, it just saves you all that hassle. So yeah, I guess fragmentation is what makes Android phones exciting as well as inconvenient, at least for me.
Google fudged up the Pixel 6 so badly and Android is going backwards. This is no surprise. At least Apple is staying consistent. I don't like iOS, therefore I don't use an iPhone regularly, but I truly understand why so many people stick with it. I HATE my Pixel 6. It's so unreliable, features have been removed (particularly with Chromecast use, formerly one of my favorite Android over iOS leg ups), Maps has gone downhill (at least on this device) and worst of all, tons of random reboots with zero evidence as to why, therefore can't get it warrantied as it's inconsistent and I can't reproduce the issue to the repair shop... yet.
Ecosystem entrenchment is strong. It’s the same reason banks offer their online bill pay service for free or why service companies offer a discount if you signup for automatic payment. All these companies know people like familiarity and hate the hassle of switching.
Hey Luke, I believe the back is plastic. A good feeling plastic 😂, but nonetheless, plastic. Just a heads up. 😎. Nice video.
Exactly. Brilliant video yet again. Loving the addition of your partner. Look at Mr EV ( from U.K. ) he brings his Italian wife into the show more and gives it real objective and fun , makes it very balanced.
Back to the video. Been saying this to people for years. I know google / ms trying to smash it in the same. But it isn’t. The convenience it all works is immense. From little things across device copy and paste , to files , to air drop, I message , photos and I know you can do this with google, but you have to think more about it. When you have a family of 4 with macs , iPads , Apple TV, watches and as an IT professional you get no hassle at home like when I had windows everywhere at home it’s brilliant. I love to experiment with tech and I do, but some shit you just want it to work and not give you hassle. So your article is spot on.
Loving your work. A fan from the U.K.
I have a Google pixel 6pro with a Macbook pro from 2012 running a dual boot of Monterey via opencore legacy patcher and arch Linux and a 2015 iMac running Monterey natively and they all play very well together tbh I can even share the data from my pixel thru it's USB c connection now just out of the box. Mind you there are many other things that you still need to kinda do extra to get even more functionality but it is possible.
You said it. iPhones are a trend, that is what sells! And once your in the eco system, why would you ever leave??? It’s amazing here
Apple products give the user a choice of on board storage and ram; buy as you need. As for upgrading storage, use the exterior ports.
Android os stores most apps in ram. Run multiple apps on andriod vs iOS. The results become clear as the app running space becomes very limited on andriod. iOS is still better!
As someone that used to be an apple fan boy that ditched apple after the iPhone 6s and currently has and iphone 11 for work I just don't like the system UI, the notifications are terrible, no true back button. Let's be honest most people just use a smartphone these days and a phone is the main device. Sure the apple watch is nice and the whole eco system including iMessage. Ones you leave iPhone it's really hard to go back. This is just my 2 cents I'm sure some will agree and disagree .
My current phone is three years old now. A OnePlus 7 Pro Nebula Blue with 12 Gigs of Ram and 256 Gigs of storage. After Android 12, my phone will no longer be eligible for Oxygen OS updates.
I will be switching to iPhone 14 Pro Max in September when it is launched. I'm already two devices into the Apple ecosystem with the M1 Mac Mini and 11" M1 iPad Pro.
I was actually a little bored of my iphone and I'm trying to give a shot to my old galaxy s9+ just to know if I could be able to get out of Apple's bubble, but watching your video just reminded me how hard it's gonna be
Great video. I have had iPhones since the iPhone 4. Before that I was using android phones mostly based on cost, but they were cooler with more customization and they still lead (IMO) on the customization factor. I would switch back and forth between android and iPhone until the iPhone 6 when they came out with the plus model. After that it's been almost strictly iPhone. Then I started buying into the ecosystem and now it's solely iPhone. I do still buy android phones with the intent to try and switch back, but it never happens. I really like the Pixel phones and have the 4a, 5a, and now the 6a but I still can't commit to switching from my iPhone. Apple's hold is too tight, but I'm in by my own choice and mostly stay in this relationship because of convenience.
And even then it feels like customisation got better with widgets and PiP in iOS 14 and in iOS 16 with the lockscreen and widgets, it’s truly at a level where most people aren’t going to yearn for much more really. Basically the customisation factor is now decent but the rest of the iPhone experience is still just as good, so for me at least, I’m not really drawn to Android as I was when the idea of extra customisation seemed useful.
Consistency, and synergy between their products and software makes apple products stand out. I have used android many times but I end up going back to an iPhone. All the products work together while Google really does not care about that
Google has really been a data mining company so their products are designed to do just that, customer experience is secondary, that has changed in my opinion lately as they started charging for most of their services so maybe the company will focus more on what the customers really want
Great video. Made so much sense. A phone can be better than iPhone yet not compete.
I used to live in the apple world after growing up in a family of graphic designers who swore by apple. A few years back I decided to live dangerously and get a Huawei phone and it turned out to be great. Switching was easy as pie, but I also dont feel like I am tied to either now. Though I do wish that Huawei wasnt banned in Australia as I would have upgraded to p50. Not too sure where to go now
Get a pixel 7 pro maybe or just wait if your phone works
nothing new or exiting at the moment with any brand
smartphones peaked
Carplay and iMessage (cross device) - done. I'm captive. MBP14, iPhone, iPad. Airpods, etc. I can't change.
They did eventually have iTunes for windows. I certainly used an iPod and then a iPhone with a windows machine for years.
After a Galaxy S4, S6, S7, S9+, S20 I went to an iPhone 13. Although I have a lot of other Apple stuff, the Evo system was not the reason. In my case it was the availability of Garage band. But now that I have switched, everything just works like it should. My Metcedes car app reliable gives notifications. On the android ones, it always was a hit and mis. And this was noticeable with other apps as well. Even Google Chromecast works better, no more connection problems. No more Wifi problems in general. I will keep this phone for at least 4 years. And knowing that it’s fully supported in this time is also good to know. Then there is price: at full price I would not have done it. I payed €645 instead of €950. But the latest Galaxy S22 is just as expensive.
I have both Android and iPhone and use both. It's the little things like airdrop I really miss or rather I have to think about solutions to get files or things from my android over to the iPhone. With apple you just don't. You focus on what you need to do but less on the process itself.
I stay in a country where iPhones have less than 15% market share. Where the exchange rate is so poor, most people can only afford the low end products. But we continue to buying Apple, because they last longer and remain useable. I am still doing fine on my iPhone X, only planning to upgrade when the 15 is due. The thing is, you don’t have to be great at everything. You just have to be consistently good all the time.
I'm a mac user which my phone worked with, but I switched to Android and kept my mac and I never need to use 2 different device that work together as I use Google to link all my files. Works just like iPhone linking toac with files etc....., switching from an iPhone to Android from a phone perspective, is probably the best decision I ever made
Apple makes powerful Kool-Aid.
I’m subscribed to your channel of course and I like your outlook on these phones and the comparisons. I owned the pixel 6….I sold it and back to iPhone 📱
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Back in 2012 when I switched to Android it was so easy. And changing back to iPhone last year was easy too. But now when I have the airpod max, MacBook Air, iPad mini and Apple Watch I can’t see myself changing back to Android for almost any reason.
People criticized apple’s ridiculous pricing for years and I agree with them, but when I complained my cheaper android phones are difficult to use and unreliable, they started telling me I should pay equal or more than a iPhone for an android phone then I shall have a great experience. I was like….what? Why? No thank you. If I cannot save any money, then I’ll just go with an iPhone.
Pretty much nailed it. Not only are the products generally very good, but they work SO well together. I started out with an iPhone 4 in 2011 and slowly crossed the bridge as a whole over the next few years. Android phones have gotten worlds better in the last decade (I switched back and forth between 2013-2015), but it still ain't as polished as the iPhone overall imo.
I remember Thanksgiving of 2019, my friend’s sister boldly announced she had ditched her iPhone for a Pixel phone. We all stood aghast with our jaws dropped as she cooly explained how she loved it because she didn’t want to look at it, because the UI just wasn’t that compelling. I think her relationship with the Pixel phone had ended by Christmas of that year.
My wife and me, we just switched TO apple. And the reason was just the ecosystem you were talking about. We've gor mac mini, imac, ipad, ipad pro, iphone 7, iphone 13. Anr they al just WORK together. To be honest, we will not turn back.
I would consider changing to Android, but as mentionned in your video, I have Mac products, so difficult to do so.
Exactly why I *don't* want to get anything Apple. I'm a very strong believer of personal and consumer choice and there is no way I'm cornering myself into a spot I can't escape from.
I just bought a Nokia 225 4G to get out of the smartphone rat race. Why am I watching this?? xD
The whole iMessage thing is weird for me. In the UK, WhatsApp is pretty much the default messaging app. But ecosystems are key, I guess. Being fully Google at home, the 6a is a no-brainer for me.
For me, living in the eu, is such a weird thing that messages and green\blue bubble is a factor.
Lol. “If someone else had the phone I would be okay, I probably wouldn’t text them” 😂😂😂
I‘m not trapped. I don’t want to switch!
Guilty as charged. Upgraded from an iPhone Xr to the 13. The seemless move from one to the other and the intergration between other devices means Android devices just aren't on my radar!
I have wanted to change to a folding phone just to try it out but I can’t get rid of the iPhone just because of the eco system. I have the phone, watch, tv, HomePods, AirPods, and macs that also use iMessage and save all of my conversations so they don’t clutter my phone. Maybe one day I’ll switch but it’s not now.
$450 and your soul as google sells your information to third parties
I would never even consider switching to an android phone. If I worked for google & it was required, I’d still use my iPhone as my primary device.
Would I ever consider switching out of an iPhone? No. I am working on converting my wife though, she's starting to come around to the idea of ditching Samsung after a decade plus.
Give an iPhone to her as a birthday present, it will change her life.
First time I heard of a woman that needs convincing to switch to an iphone from an android instead of the other way around.
For me! First Ecosystem of Apple and 2nd the software update! =)
The Pixel 6 and Android 12 is why I left Pixel phones completely and for the foreseeable future. I went back to Samsung because I like that Android experience more, which is ironic since I left Samsung for the Pixel line originally.
But nothing on an iPhone will make me switch away from Android. It's Android becoming a worse experience that would make me more to Apple, and I don't see that happening any time soon...for my personal phone.
I have been using iPhones since the 3G in 2008. I had an android tablet a few years ago and it went to crap quickly.
I gotta say that this does also promulgate a worldview based on extreme priveledge. a 400 dollar difference is for many many people an extreme financial strain.
Yeah, I’ve used a Mac in some form since the 90’s, long before an “ecosystem” became attainable. I always preferred the Mac OS, so the phone, etc., all made sense when their smartphone technology appeared. Using Microsoft at work was always the norm, ugh, and it was always behind Apple.
Pixel offers some great features that iPhone should include, but we don’t see them as important unless Apple applies them, too.
10:01 omg this PWM is nuts
I'm currently an owner of an Android phone (Pixel 4a, not 5G). Tbh it hasn't really held up well, as the software has gotten a fair bit slow, but more than that, Android 12 brought a battery issue that makes the phone drain extremely quickly. Anyway, since I got the phone, I've gotten a Mac, AirPods, and now know a lot more people, and the majority of them use iPhones and iMessage. I am considering a new phone. So even though I really want a Galaxy S22 Ultra, a Pixel 6 Pro, or any other high-end phone, I just can't get one. I need iMessage, FaceTime, AirDrop, that integration with my MacBook, good camera quality on apps like insta and snap, and so on. They matter to me more than a USB-C port, 8K recording, a fresh design, customization, and even a 120 hz display. In other words, the iPhone does the basics (my needs) better. I can trust it'll have better software than my Pixel. I can trust that it'll remain speedy. I can trust that the battery and camera will be good enough for my needs. I can trust they won't be selling my data.
It's a shame because I really do love Android.
There are other concern I had with Google phones. Just few days ago I have to decide between iphone and pixel, which one to get. I am not long stuck apple eco system user, so I don’t that kind of favour over apple devices. But the privacy concern that google might able to see data I stored on my phone drive me away from buying the pixel phones.
That true this is what other people dont understand. When you are in the apple cosmos you stay there because everything works so great together.