Penalty Shot, Shootout and RVH Fail | GoPro Hockey Goalie [HD] - GAME 8
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- What a game, there was a penalty shot, shootout and RVH Fail. Hope you enjoy!
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Did you agree with my break down of the RVH? And did the graphic I made help?
I actually disagree with your breakdown of the "RVH fail". In the situation he was in I believe going into the RVH was not a bad decision, however it was his lack of awareness and anticipation of the pass to the man in front that cost him that goal. The man in front was being covered by his defenseman, so therefore he could really only shoot after recieving the pass, which means that all he had to do was use the momentum from squaring his body back up to the shooter to slightly bump off the post and be centered with the puck, and then shift his hands to be squared and the shooter wouldve had nothing to shoot at. I personally think that staying standing up wouldve made it actually harder to make that save than to just bump off the post. Love your vids and your podcasts btw keep them up, just thought I'd put my two cents in on the matter.
@@pillowsnmitts4372 Sure, you are correct he could have made a save if he bumped off the post. But the fact that he would have had to do that at all is the weakness of using the rvh in that puck position.
@@MichaelConway1308 I definitely agree with you, he could've stayed standing there and made the save as well. I just think that calling it an RVH fail is incorrect because it was his inability to read the play that cost him that goal, not the RVH. Also, bumping off the post and getting square only really takes about half a second to do which if you were standing up you'd want to do a bit of a shuffle out towards the shooter anyways and then drop into the butterfly as soon as he shoots because of how close he is to the net which I believe would've been a little harder to do than just bumping off.
I say play the rvh every time as opposed the the vh where you got beat.
I have been wanting someone to breakdown when to use RVH and when not to for a very long time. Even if it's just one opinion, it's nice to have an image in my head other than "I dunno, feels right to me." So thanks!
One thing I really appreciated while watching your video, is when you pad stacked and didn't know where the puck was, your defense told you exactly what to do. Good defense.
Yeah, I was grateful he was telling me to do that. I didn't know where it was at all.
Wish my defense was like that
I getting own goals and centering passes for the other team from mine
Just got my hoodie in the mail Friday, they do look and feel awesome!
Nice! I am glad you love it as much as I do!
From a goalie coach, the main issue on the penalty shot was insufficient push strength on the backskate. You need to come out about another foot, and skate backwards hard enough to match the skaters speed. By the time he pulled the move, though it was an early reaction on your part, you had lost almost all momentum and were basically beached at the halfway point of the crease. Generating early momentum means you carry more into the slide-to-post and can basically run the player out of time and space by keeping the shoulders square with matched speed until you make contact with and seal the post. Great vids though, always a good watch !!
"gap control"
when that first shooutout goal was scored "YUSSSSSS" lmaooo
I was so tired, I just wanted it to be done haha
You played great, most of those shots were really good shots. The other goalie was hyper aggressive, which can work, but your boys were patient with their shots. Great game to watch.
Good game I liked the graphic and the breakdown.
I liked the technical part of the game with the RVH and VH commentary and the graph helped.
Awesome! I am glad to hear it helped.
As a huge Hartford Whalers fan I gotta say.. Love the other teams jerseys
They are nice jerseys for sure!
And I might say
What a different play style the other goalie has
Very unique
Yes, very different.
1:17 you might need to use the RVH more the VH has a lot of disadvantages. But with that shot you should of got it with the VH
Yeah, it is kind of ironic that I break down the RVH but let this in. Realistically though, having my skate against the post would have prevent this and either the RVH or the VH would have worked in this situation.
The Puck Stops Here yeah
Some of your team mates got some sick hands!!!
Yeah they do.
I only use the RVH when the play is around the crease. I find it’s overused by a lot of younger guys and they’re vulnerable when the puck is passed into the slot. Great video.
I agree. I was never taught to use it when growing up but I guess because it wasn't a thing then. I do see the benefits of it at certain times, but not all the time as a lot of goalies are doing.
I highly recommend challenging a bit further than where you challenge just when as shooter starts moving across the centre line or starts moving! It often helped me with adjusting my the speed and gives the player less space to maneuver. Hope this helps!
That's a great tip. I will keep that in mind.
Another great game Sam. Thanks for sharing. Even though the score was 6-6 going into the shootout, both goalies played solid for 3 periods. You guys were beat on some pretty good shots. Thanks for the tips on the RVH. I will certainly be more cognizant in my game about this.
Thanks and I am glad you found my breakdown helpful :)
Haven't learned the rvh yet or the vh for that matter, but as for myself I would have been in my "puck below goal line position", (standing, skate and pad flush to post, stick in position to deflect on ice pass) and then a good push to top of crease probably in butterfly to meet the deflection/shot. Watching the video I would say the opposing goalie was reaching to much with his stick and it would put him out of position and scrambling. Use the poke check on occasion as a surprise like you did in shootout.
The RVH and VH is pretty easy to learn but yes, standing is usually a pretty good choice and the VH and RVH should only be used if the player is with in a stick or two lengths away.
Hello. For hugging the post you should put the part of the pad that’s for the toe on the post so it’s cleanly against the post and there is no hole for the puck
Yes, I liked the graphic. I took a screenshot. Thanks
During a break away or shoot out, I would tell you to come out further, almost to the hash lines on the faceoff circles. This takes away options for the shooter and surprises him, because he's now forced to beat you with stick handling and your legs seem fast enough to stop the dekes in this league.
Also, as a right handed goalie, if a player is moving from your left to your right, jam that stick out. Knock the puck or his stick, or even his skates. You can't let him come across the crease because he'll open you up all day.
One day you'll be reliving your glory days of beer league hockey on the internet. Enjoy every minute of it till then. Haha... Good win!
I've been using the rvh too much as well. I'm working on it, this info helped.
Dude for real
The goals that you team scores are amazing lol
Your defensive bench could be as good as the offensive lol
Yes, they do score some great goals!
The other option on that goal you talked about would be to be in a regular vh or post up. This way you are covering the post on the bank shot and you're only half down and your push leg is ready to get you up.
1:54 that guy came in your crease so slowly and could of messed you up. Always go around the net kids😂
I know, luckily nothing happened.
You are being way too hard on the other goalie for using the RVH, and it wasn’t really a fail. It seems as if you did this to fill up your 10 min video quota but idk. The RVH was’t that bad of a choice in this situation. His technique and awareness however, was what led to the goal. Their 2nd goal was a soft one by you, which could’ve been prevented with the RVH. From your videos we can see that you tend to use the VH over the RVH or a butterfly stance when there’s no need for the VH.
I don’t mean to hate on you because I really enjoy your videos. But If we look back at your 4 last games (including this one), you’ve let in 4 soft goals by going in to the VH rather than using a butterfly or RVH (2nd goal this video, 1st goal from 23rd of june, and 1st goal and the 7th goal 17th of june).
Sorry for being a "hating" on you, but keep up the good content man!
Perhaps I was a bit harsh, but I think it is still over used and it just happened to happen that week when I was planning on doing . a video about it already. But instead, I just broke it down in this video since we scored on it. I still think it was the wrong save selection. Also I don't have a guota for my videos, they just typically end up being around that length.
Nicklas Fridell RVH is overused and the NHL perspective he brought in, is true. The RVH is overused in low pressure situations when it should not be used, or when lazy.
@@ThePuckStopsHere the VH should not be used in 99% of situations because it does not offer proper movement and if not played perfectly as we see you tend to do often has holes which result in goals. I believe this is what the commenter was saying here
The RVH can be used for so many saves so I disagree with what u are saying. The VH has been lost in time because it has holes and is hard to move out of with strength and accuracy. Zone 2 should generally be stand when farther out or RVH when they get closer
I know I’m really late, but I think what a lot of people don’t realize is that both the vh and rvh are useful in very specific situations. However I feel that that are very overused and can be punished heavily by a smart team. With regards to nhl goalies. When they use these movement incorrectly (however it does happen much less frequently) the end result is very much the same.
I had pucks always popping out of my previous glove which was an RBK XLT or something like that. Either way, it was the same glove as the EFlex line like you’re using. It was a pro palm and the plastic in the cuff broke. I’m not sure why I couldn’t catch with it but when I switched to the EFlex 3, game ready with double T, I started catching everything. It’s a black hole for pucks!
Check for damage and if it’s a pro palm, trash it!
I will check but I don't think anything is broken. I think it has a lot more to do with me then the glove. Because it is a game ready double T Eflex 3 glove
best!
Thanks!
I think I would’ve been in the vh in that position, or standing, so I agree. I do believe that overall lack of awareness of the puck carriers options was the culprit though. Anytime The play is deep in the corner, first thing I do is lock down the passing options and lanes to give myself an extra second. Good goal though. Hard to do.
Yeah, I agree with you. VH would have been a good choice as well. I too would have chosen to stand though and to block that passing lane.
You are so much better on butterfly than other goalies in the league and when comes new hoodies?
Great game mate. Did you find working on your glove position helped? I recently went from a Bauer X900 single T to a G4 Pro double T and found that I'm giving a heap of rebounds of late, but I'm thinking it's more positioning than equipment
I agree that I think positioning has a lot to do with it. If I caught every puck in the pocket where I should, then I believe I would not be giving out nearly as many or any rebounds. I am still trying to get use to changing the position of the glove, it will take time before I know for sure if it is working.
Never put your glove or pocket where your chest is, so basically no single digit glove positions. I personally like 10/11 because I’m small and get that top corner coverage but I feel u might like this because they are really comfortable
Nice win.
That goal off the skate was 100% intentional by the shooter.
Those suck to give up but it happens.
Yeah I know. I guess he saw a gap there. It was a terrible goal and could have easily been avoided for sure.
In a shoot out scenario if the shooter is coming straight on im skating back to my crease how can you tell when to drop to butterfly
Is there a "Hooked on Phonics" for reading plays? lol I'll contribute to a GoFundMe if there is one!! Nice vid Sam, learned something new today!! Thanks
I am glad you found the video useful and I am not sure if there is a book like that. I will let you know if I find one :)
Great game Sam! Fun one to watch! I have to say though... What the hell was the Goalie in Black doing??? He looked like it was his first time with pads on. Flailing around with his stick out like a dying fish.. As a goalie who focuses on my technical precision, watching him play was painful 😂
Yeah, each goalie has a unique style for sure and some times that flailing works and others it doesn't.
U should hold ur glove so ur hand is at a 1:50 (in terms of a clock face). Try this
Gotcha. I will. Habits are hard to break especially if you have been doing it for a while. I will do my best :)
How did you start to get into goalie did you buy pads right away or do something else because I have been considering if I should do goalie or stay player but if I wanted to do goalie how would I make the transition
I started when I was really young. Basically I learned how to skate my first year, then I learned how to play hockey, then I joined house league where everyone rotates positions and I liked playing goalie. Then once everyone played goalie they would ask who wanted to be in net and I kept saying I did. Then we won the championship and since then I was the goalie. This was like when I was 5
Ok thanks
A lot of the goals against you are because you bring your hands back and open up your shoulders. Try to stay over the puck and make every save in front of you. When you’re reaching back and far out to the sides it opens a lot of holes. That’s the main reason the 3rd and 4th goals went in.
Thanks for the tip. I will try to stay over the puck more often :)
The Puck Stops Here No problem. It’s really game changing once you get the hang of it and becomes second nature.
Well, I will make sure to keep practicing it. :)
Nice seems like some good hockey where is this?? Division?? sorry never seen your vids
I play out of Toronto. And this is actually the lowest division at my rink. It is E. However in the summer, a lot of current college and junior players join so this would be equivalent to D division.
It looks as if u never lean forward with your hands when making a Glover or blocker save, there always beside you instead of in front if you do you can cut down the angle better
Do you use a wireless mic or just the built in mic?
It's the built in mic on my helmet cam.
@@ThePuckStopsHere thanks!!! Btw, I love your videos. You always share great tips.
2nd goal VH, not the best save selection but poor execution sealed your fate. It looks like your pad seal was not vertical to the post, upper body was turned out and toe of stick absolutely has to cover skate and post gap. Also, you were sitting back, making this a static blocking save rather than an active blocking save. The RVH was the way to go here for sure. I save the VH for post side drives to the net and a pass down low one timer or shot attempt. Don't get me wrong, I love the VH. But in this scenario, moving into the RVH glove forward takes care of a quick shot. And if there's a delay down low, towards the goal line, move the glove to cover the post to knee gap. With practise, this entire process can provide dynamic post coverage when the play transitions down low, Keep up the good work, I enjoy your channel.
Yeah, this was a bad goal. I knew it as soon as it hit my skate. I agree with you totally on the RVH in this situation. Thanks for the amazing feedback. I appreciate it!
Where do you play these games ? Im from st cathrines and the rink kinda looks like one around here
Hi
Hi!
other goalie loves the poke check a little too much.
RVH fail, gloves forward on longer shots, skate on post, take ice by pushing off towards the shot point or deflection point. This goalie dose not have the skill to preform the RVH and should be using a different save selection in this scenario. I'm not poo pooing the RVH, if it was preformed correctly by a skilled tender this would have been an easy save. However, I highly recommend getting up to a standing position when the puck is moving towards the corner, it gives the tender more options for different attack scenarios.
The RVH was fine there. He needed to push off the post and not have his glove resting on his leg. BUT like you said don't mimic NHLers due to the difference in size, power, and flexibility.
Yeah, I agree with you but I still would have preferred to be standing up in the situation. There are more options then if you are already down on the ice.
The Puck Stops Here I say you are better covered if you are down especially in a beer league because they are more likely not to get the puck up in that situation if you were unable to move off the post like you should be doing.
Although I agree that most players will not get the puck up like that, I still think that being in the RVH limits your ability to get off the post because you are leaning towards it. Unlike the NHL, most of us in beer league are not in peak physical shape and we are not as explosive as pro goalies. So mimicking them will typically backfire for use where as they would be able to stop it. This is just my opinion and I am no expert.
The fourth goal you should have tried to head butted it
shoulders took a friggin beating in this game eh?
Good video as always! ;-) Btw. I prefer standing while the opposite player is behind the net. But that's just my preference.
I do to, that is why I listed all three option when the player is in the Zone 1 (RED Zone)
I've watched many of you videos and noticed that you're struggling with your glove. I suspect that you aren't holding your gloves out in front of your body enough. This leads to making most of your saves being made in your peripheral vision, thus leading to mistakes and misjudging the shot. To build on that point, when you make a save on a shot farther back than you're suppose to, you will not have that visual attachment needed to make a nice clean glove save. Try holding your glove saves a little longer. This takes time to get used to, but when you do it'll make a big improvement to your current game. Products like the X-Tracker and Swivel Vision goggles will help you build these kinds of habit..
This is a great point and I think you are right. I think I grew up holding my gloves to the side rather then the front. It is something I am more aware of an need to keep practicing.
While the RVH might be overused. Their second goal wouldn’t have went in if you used it instead of the VH.
I agree, but it also wouldn't have went in if I used the VH properly or even just stood up. Heck, it wouldn't have went in if I was out on the bench as he wouldn't have been able to bank it off my skate.
Each situation is different but it was just my poor execution if the VH that caused that goal unfortunately.
It appears the problem with your glove is the way it closes, not the way you hold it. Your glove is jamming at the end of the crease where your stick belongs. The only way to fix that is by buying a new glove unfortunatley
I had the same problem and it will feel sooo much better when you buy a new one. The best closing one is a warrior g4 pro
I see, well I am not going to be buying a new glove any time soon but one day I will need a new set and I will look at alternatives for sure. Or if it continues to be a problem, I can send it to FactoryMad and they can rebuild/improve it.
2:53 what the hell is that goalie thinking? Dude the puck is in the corner. Hug your post, grip your stick right, and don’t act so nonchalant about it. I’m not a professional goalie by any means and even I know how to play that scenario. If he treated the scenario as legit, maybe he would’ve been better prepared for the player out front, instead of going for a measly poke check
Your glove is still at like 12 not 3 but its better
The puck was below the goal line. So he was fine paddle down. The D should of tied the guy up.
Or maybe u can just say the time once in a while?
To tired for a shootout?
Luckily I had enough energy to stop them but yeah, for some reason I was really tired this game. It could have been from being out all day in the sun.
Yes, I liked the graphic. I took a screenshot. Thanks