Spider-Man: Homecoming is a Bad SPIDER-MAN Movie (Video Essay)
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- Yet another Spider-Man Video Essay, this one is actually a Spider-Man: Homecoming Video Essay. This Video Essay is titled why Spider-Man Homecoming is a Bad Spider-Man Movie. This is the 5th Spider-Man Video Essay HiTop Films has done, I'm losing my mind. Spider-Man 2 Chocolate Cake, Civil War v. Justice League, Fixing Spider-Man 3, Fixing The Amazing Spider-Man 2, I don't know if I can take it anymore. What did you guys think of Spider-Man Homecoming? How many times can I type Spider-Man in the description before you notice. What is your favorite Spider-Man Movie, mine is still Spider-Man 2. Will the algorithm notice HiTop Films yet? Does anybody even read the description of a video essay. Well, anyways...
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âNo life is easy for anybodyâ Stan lee 1922-2018
RIP LEE U WILL AWAYS BE REMEMBERED
@@ohboy7061 Yeah well you think wrong ;)
@@ohboy7061
Stan Lee: Dont make me come down there you punk!!!
Unless you're tony starks son you'll have everything
@@ohboy7061 what do you mean!??!!?
The Raimi films may be corny, but they nailed all the fundamentals that make Spider-man, Spider-man.... and Danny Elfman went hard as hell on that soundtrack.
This. 100% this.
I wouldnât say theyâre corny, just a little older, but yes theyâre great
Except they did not entirely!
Homecoming actually nailed the part about Spiderman kind of believing in himself and saving the day.
@@bramsteenhoek2674 lolno.
I feel like the consequence point is one of your best. Spider-Man is a series built on the idea of taking action, and the consequences of those actions. Spider-Mans entire journey originates from the idea that he made the choice to not be a hero, which cost him his Uncle Ben. His actions had consequences, and thatâs why he became the hero that we know him as.
Well he gets the suit taken away after fuckin up. I feel like having someone die in the Washington monument is unnecessary. You don't need someone to die there to shape his character especially since the only characters that would really impact peter would be Ned and Liz. And I think killing off either would be pointless. And it's not like Tobey had any consequences to his actions in spider man 1
@@anthonypc930 not just about killing but tom's Peter didn't actually feel guilty about these situations until nwh
@@motionkings That is b/c Tom's Peter is not Peter. Tom Holland is portraying Miles Morales not Peter Parker. Read the comics.
@@onigiri2136 Huh?What are you talking about?
@@anthonypc930 he got uncle ben killed
It sucks that in the comics, he was kicked out of the Avengers multiple times for being immature and edgy, he didn't idolize them and even fought most of them. Do they really think teens are happy go lucky fanboys 24/7?
??? What even is your point?? He looks up to his heroes and wants to be like them. Is that so bad??
@@Coconut_Prrson heâs not like that in the comics
@@remphz3321 The comics aren't Holy Texts, not everything has to be accurate to them
@@blanks8851 They aren't, but this trope is all he is in the MCU, the comics is an individual with his own stories. The dude is a teen trying to make money, teens are edgy and insecure, that's why he was relatable. It's what keeps him from being Iron Man 2.0. It's also a key part of his character. You lose a lot of his development when you forget that teens AREN'T happy go lucky, that they CAN be impulsive, that they DON'T look up to authority. Especially when they're poor and working outside of the law for money. That's what his creators thought was a cornerstone of his character.
Him getting into the Avengers took years and multiple attempts (I think he wasn't official till the 2000s), in the meantime he had grown significantly so by the time he finally joined he wasn't a high school student brushing shoulders with Vietnam vets. Because character development is a thing and has payoffs.
@@hyperion3145 dude no way home is out, go watch it
You only need one sentece to know how to make a good spiderman story:
When Spider-man succeeds, peter parker should fail, and vise versa
Edit: Iâm not saying the story should be about this rule, im saying that in a spiderman stories, this rule should be kept in mind alongside the main story.
OZKORAPPA Holy crap, This is so Underrated
So freaking true !!
thats what spiderman ps4 is about
Which is why Spiderman ps4 is an amzing adaptation of Spiderman, along with spectacular spiderman, sam raimiâs spiderman, spiderman tas etc
@@OzKo i personally think spiderman ps4 is the best spiderman adaptation you have villains with reasons (i saw this from someone else it made the game better for me)
rhino-rhino wants to get out of his suit
vulture- vulture wants to live he is diagnosed with cancer
octo-his brain was damaged so at the end he said i will be stuck with this useless body
shocker-shocker is forced by li's gang
li-was in a experiment and his darkside overbeat him
scorpion- wants to live a normal life
eletro- wants to turn into a elemeant to have power
all these characters are so well made
and spiderman has alot of good success but peter loses aunt may and octo
One of the fundamental characteristics of Peter Parker: Empathy
Yet he doesnât have that in far from home abandon a world crisis so he could have a vacation, meaning if someone dies due to him looking the other way then itâs on Peter yet he doesnât come to that realization
You mean apathy
@@ATalesTruth- there are people other than him on earth that can stop evil lmao Spiderman is still a kid at the end of the day...
@@Keizi hate to put it to you if he is the only own available to help then itâs on him to protect the world because if he doesnât and the next day itâs destroyed thatâs on him and he should know this because he should understand the consequences of turning a blind eye(if other heroes were available and were already working on it to the point Peter doesnât need to help then yes he doesnât have to worry about it, look at the miles game, he was going to come back because he saw there was trouble in Ny but miles he trained and gave him confidence that he got it, but if he didnât and miles died then it be on Peter, but he had to give miles his responsibilities if he is ever going to take his place but in that case Peter could go on vacation because he trained miles in which he was ready to fly solo) the first time he did that Ben died, and the next time he does it will be someone else will and it be fully on him, thatâs the whole point of the character, the fact mcu Spider-Man doesnât understand this is why he is a bad adaptation because he acts like he learned nothing from Benâs death
Also Spider-Man is never been about a kid being a superhero, itâs about a kid becoming an adult because of his responsibilities as a superhero, in other words it doesnât matter that he is a Kid, he should willingly put himself in an adult position based on the fact he has the power to do good, saying he is a kid so he doesnât have to do the right thing shows you donât understand the point of Spider-Man
@@ATalesTruth- not reading all this lmao
Comment: "Toby never quips"
Tobey: "That's a cute comment. Did your husband wrote it for you?"
did your husband *wrote it for you*
fix ur english, pls
Did your husband write this comment for you?
*write
I'm sorta heartbroken that they took really fundamental aspects of Peter's character out of him. Also can I say is absolutely hilarious to me when I see people say that Tom Holland's Spiderman is comic book accurate...when he's absolutely the complete opposite. Love Tom, he's a great actor, and incredibly charming in the movie but he's not Peter Parker or Spiderman. Amazing video, glad to hear more people talk about this.
Also that Stan Lee video talking about Peter's character is wonderful and everytime I watch it makes me tear up.
@Erik Kemeey Well he does now boyo
@@gelothegogang "every Spiderman incarnation has to be the same as the reimi trilogy without trying anything new" grindset right here
@@Coconut_Prrson He needs to become a billionaire as a reward for all his soon to be future sacrifices, he did became rich in the comics, now that is a good ending.
But isn't the most tho? I mean Peter is 15 in these movies. It seems that the Spiderman which so many Raimi fanboys want is one that is not in HS, completely alone, and is not in the MCU.
@@Aiasmor Even as a 15 year old, Peter is supposed to be someone who grows up fast and has many responsibilities to take care of. If you've seen Spectacular Spider-Man, he's also in high school and is around 15-16 years old. Yet he has to worry about helping Aunt May pay bills and getting a job to do that. The whole reason Spider-Man was made as a 15 year old superhero as opposed to an adult one was to show him handling adult responsibilities as a kid. To show that a kid could do all the stuff only adult superheroes did back when Spider-Man was first created, when teenagers would only ever be sidekicks. The world isn't supposed to go easy on Peter because he's a kid. That takes away a huge part of what makes his character special from his high school days.
MCU Spider-Man seems to be headed in that direction now from the looks of it though so it seems that even they've heard the complaints people have and are taking steps to correct that.
The entire world knows that Peter Parker is Spiderman now
*EVERYTHING IS FINE*
You know whatâs sad that shit is going to be 100 percent true
i hope itâs gonna go to shit đ
You only saw the post credits scene. Not the third movie.
How would you know the outcome?
SteveCrafts2k due to the format of the last two films, it probably will be brushed away as a runaway joke
Uncle Ben's death in this Spider-man movie:
**Uncle Ben dies**
Peter: "I missed the part where that's my problem."
Stark replaced Uncle Ben in this story, that's all.
We donât want to see that again
@Horse Dude I get it, but how else would they put Spider-man inside Civil War and right in the middle of the MCU? Any ideas? Honest question.
Haven't played Spider-man on PS4, can't talk about that.
I mean, I thought it was smart at the time, even if "wrong"...but I honestly don't care anymore, either way.
They always screw around the "core origin" in a lot of these movies.
Some people seem particularly anal about this specific change.
How many times do we really need to see that? Like how many times do we need see Martha and Thomas Wayne killed? Thereâs only so many times it can be shown until people are just like, âGet on with it already.â
I would like but the like count is at 420 so Iâm gonna leave it B
I swear this guy is the only guy that can convince me into changing my mind about good movies into bad movies and bad movies into good ones
A guy who doesn't read spider man comics successfully gatekeeped what Spider man means, sad.
@@lymmy9609 there we go thank you
dude this guy shits at ffh and nwh with such garbage statements exept for some
@@lymmy9609 exactly.
@@lymmy9609 by comics
Andrew is the best spiderman
now that no way home is out, the mcu trilogy of spiderman movies feels like a cohesive character arc for this version of Peter Parker. Each movie brings him closer to the reality of the consequences of his double life. First with how miserable he made Liz, second with Mysterio betraying him, and now finally making him grow as a superhero with SPOILERS
the death of Aunt May in no way home. Even more so with losing both Ned and Michelle with Dr. Strange's spell at the end.
The issue with homecoming is literally because they backed themselves into a corner by having Stark bring up Peter in Civil War. Because of that introduction, Peter was now a significantly carried Spider-Man, which they got rid of in far from home as Stark's death leaves Peter with self-esteem and identity issues. Mysterio's contingency plan makes Peter the most vulnerable he's ever been, which makes no way home the ultimate Spider-Man film, building the Peter Parker we know from the comics and other media over the course of 3 movies, culminating in a finale that really blows the MCU since Endgame, out of the water.
Not to say that no way home invalidates this video, but I feel like they definitely capitalized on their rough intro with Spider-Man in the MCU.
SPOILERS
Don't forget that at the end, he got a new home and made his own Spider-Man suit. So he no longer even relies on Stark Tech. Its all his own stuff.
Yes you are so spot on! The Tom Holland trilogy is just one big origin Story. Individually except no way home, Tom Hollandâs Spider-Man movies arenât amazing Spider-Man movies but in the the grand scheme of things and if put together, they make one big amazing origin story and an amazing Spider-Man trilogy.
@@rorisangramphadile8086 looks like they completely changed the ideas they had for the last movie bc they saw the criticism.
@Avinash Fernandez you can def still pick up a classic spidey comic that has nothing to do with the mcu. keep crying bussy
@Avinash Fernandez didnt real lol
Just to be clear yâall, heâs not saying itâs not a good movie, heâs saying itâs not a good *spiderman* movie
Watch the Jay Exci video on this guy
@@5usp3c7 exactly
@@spider-man6932 nah bruh that video is shit, mcu Spider-Man is a disgrace to the comics
@@dexter2178 nah
It's a bad movie in general, I don't care how true they are to the comics. It just needs to be a good movie.
One of the fundamental characteristics of peter parker: despite falling, he always gets back up
Isnât that daredevil too?
Just like Fisk
I was gonna say guilt. Guilt has always played a huge role in his character development, especially with uncle Ben's death in the raimi trilogy. But I guess the theme of him not being able to catch a break kind of ties into that
That's most superheroes
Then look at the rubble scene
Key trait: Itâs a boy with the world on his shoulders. And Spider-Man isnât a sidekick. In this movie, it really felt like he was a sidekick.
How so
@@anthonypc930 I don't know. The fact that he relies on Iron Man for almost everything?
@@ericsander3620 But his entire character arc is to grow out of iron man's shadow and be a standalone hero...just like a child growing up. Toby and Andrew are more 30yo mature Spiderman. Realistically a 15yo would either be a kid worshipping heroes or a destroyer who wrecks everything like a TikTok prankster.
@@axa3687 Which makes me believe he shouldn't have been in the MCU at all, or at least was on Captain America's side in Civil War so he had nothing to do with Iron Man who's a terrible mentor.
@@ericsander3620 iron man always did the best for him
I'm just not a fan of this version of spiderman. I was introduced to the character from the 90s animated series and read the comics from the 90s.
There are things integral to spiderman, things like his bad luck, uncle Ben being his father figure who he learns his morals front "with great power comes great responsibility".
Removing these elements just takes away from the character.
So many people don't understand that..it's sad
@@anushkayadav8256 it's like removing things like the death of Bruce Wayne's parents for why he doesn't kill, or captain america fighting nazis for why he stands against totalitarianism and fascists.
This is true but only if you assume that Toby Maguire Spider-Man is comics-accurate. Spider-Man Homecoming is adapting the Spider-Man comics, not the Toby Maguire films. In the comics, Uncle Ben is really insignificant. He doesn't even say "With great power comes great responsibility", that line is just narration. And although responsibility is why he becomes Spider-Man, it isn't why he keeps being Spider-Man. Arguably Homecoming captures Spider-Man better.
True.
It clearly doesn't. Just because he is Spider-Man doesn't mean that he needs to have bad luck. That's just the bad writing from the old days ffs. I thought people here would be smart but nope.
When he said:"So i did as any man does when he's confused, I turned on my favorite flick: Spider-Man 2." I felt that.
Thatâs the same feeling I got when I got home from the theater
We've had 2 movies with MJ and I know literally nothing about her.
I love Zendaya but she's the worst MJ ever
@@ItsYuhBoyyyy ikr The Spider-Man far far home could make Peter and mj relationship very well but is horrible Sam raimi spider man ps4 even freaking the amazing spider man had relationship
Still a better character than how Mary Jane was written in 2 and 3.
Agreed. Like whatâs her home life like? Does she have siblings? Goals in life? Thereâs so much we donât know. I want to like her but thereâs huge pieces missing from her character.
@@bernardfrancis2127 Mj has no character in the 2nd and the 3rd movie. She is just screaming
To me, the _most_ defining characteristic of Spider-Man/Peter Parker is that he is responsible. More than his life being miserable, he's responsible; it informs all of his behavior. Peter has had moments in which his life goes well; maybe happily married, but he's still responsible. Peter has briefly given up at times, so his most defining characteristic isn't that "no matter how many times he's knocked down, he gets back up". Pay attention to what motivates him when he goes back to being Spider-Man; it's due to feeling the responsibility of being able to help and not doing so. Peter Parker is relatable, but he isn't defined by being "the everyman", he's defined by learning the lesson Uncle Ben tried to teach him too late and constantly trying to "save Uncle Ben," whether the "Uncle Ben" in question is Aunt May, his best friend's dad, Gwen Stacey, or a stranger due to knowing that this stranger is "someone's Uncle Ben".
People are who they are when they are in the dark. When no one knows and therefore no one can hold Peter responsible, he still holds himself responsible. It's easy to be the hero when you are rewarded for it. Some heroes don't get rewarded, but they get indifference; their praises aren't sung. Spider-Man often does the right thing, but doesn't get rewarded and doesn't even get indifference, but instead, the universe kicks him in the teeth for it, which of course makes him want to quit, but he knows that when he doesn't do anything, "Uncle Ben dies all over again". Even when Peter is crippled, he still tries to help in one way, or another, due to having had a lot of experience being a hero by that point that he feels he can do something, even if it's not the full Spider-Man schtick.
I love and relate to Peter Parker due to his nerdy, intellectual side, but I respect, admire and seek to emulate him due to his steadfast responsibility. Spider-Man is the kid who, due to his difficult experiences, manages to be more responsible than the adults around him. He lost his mentor, feels lost and inadequate, but actually manages to outdo pretty much everyone in being a good, responsible, caring hero, even though he usually takes a long while to realize it; living in imposter syndrome until he does.
This is why Spectacular Spider-Man the animated series is the definitive iteration of Spider-Man, for me.
@@Multiple_Ore_Chasms
I want more people to appreciate Spectacular Spider-Man the animated series.
As a Spiderman fan, watching your video fells like I was lost and you showed me the way. Thank you for reminding me why I love Spiderman so much!
Ah yes all sheep answer the call of shepherds.
â@@TheLeeBonnerWhat ?
I'm kinda sick of the high school Spider-man.. PS4 Spider-man proved that an adult Peter can work. But no everyone wanted a highschool Spider-man because that's all they think Spider-man is, he starts out as a nerd to grow up to become a strong young man. Just stop with Highschool spider-man and iron man jr. I always say the MCU is a blessing and a curse.
Tbh adult Peter is way better, buts that my opinion
@Nova Not really they could of had him in college he could still being a hero while focusing on his college as well like seriously is that all everyone thinks "high school let's keep him in high school" PS4 Spider-Man prove that a Spider-Man can work as an adult.
@@dominicsoto8755 i guess it depends on personal preference
im not too picky so i dont think its that bad for him to start in highschool, though a college peter parker does sound badass
i kinda just wanna see miles, he was more fun to play with in the game than peter so i assume he'd more entertaining on the big screen
@@channelname4331 I've never been much of a Miles fan I dont really like him, I prefer 2099 and the 2 Scarlet Spiders like Ben and Kaine.
Exactly if you are gonna skip the origin and not even mention Uncle Ben who is the reason Peter started fighting crime. Yet you keep him in high school? Uncle Ben would still be important. Also we talking about PS4 Peter, but what about Peter B. Parker?
Spider-Man was actually a college student and an adult for most of his run.
yeah and actually Tobey was in school like about 15 min of the movie
@Charles Parrino If I recall correctly, MCU Peter is 17. He was 15 in Civil War, 2 year time skip to Homecoming, and then he got blipped. So he should be 17 right?
@@tonk3878 He should be in his twenties.
@@syminite1 Howâd you figure? I stated the events as I recall them, so correct me if Iâm wrong.
P.s. If youâre talking other mediums like comics and stuff, I am aware he should be an adult.
@@tonk3878 He was 15-16 before the snap right? At the beginning of Far from good..i mean home đ there was a video recognizing people had aged 5 years wasn't it?
What do you mean he has no consequences, you either lie about the scenes that support your claim and ignore clear examples.
Peter didn't destroy the dudes shop, the robbers did. How would he know they had those types of weapons? Ditching Ned at the party dose have consequences, he doesn't get to hang out with them, loses the chance to gain popularity, gets in trouble with Iron man and almost dies. If anything he's a great Spider man for ditching the chance to be cool in order to catch some bad people. Endangering his friends at Washington helps the Vulture realize that Peter is Spider man, thus putting his and his family's lives in danger. Ditching Liz makes her break up with him and stop hanging out with him, and Peter ditched her in order to stop her dad. You also forgot to mention how Peter fighting on the boat ended with him getting his suit taken away, Tony being mad at him, and having to fight the vulture in his shitty homemade suit and almost die.Your trying to say that's not giving him consequences?
look at little tom fan junior gonna cry?
@@gogeta5549 Look little reddit baby Jr, gonna cry
@Toad Is Forgotten Yeah and y forget he still rejects joining the avengers
Tobey Maguire Spiderman was best portrayal of Spiderman Character. Tom Holland Spiderman portrayal feels bit of Cringe Action Comedy, mostly dialogue.
It's you who's out gobby. Out of your mind
lol no
Tom Holland: Iâm nothing without this suit
Tobey Maguire: rain drop are falling on my head
And just like the guy whose feet are too big for his bed
Nothing seems to fit
Those raindrops are falling on my head, they keep falling
@@aryandairshad but there's one thing...
@@agentjproductions3718 I know...
@@anisah2066 the blues they send to meet me
*agrees* I adore the Raimi trilogy, that sequence was the best part of the whole series
One of the fundamental characteristics of Peter Parker is that he can never have a good life. He never gets a break. That is why he is such a beautiful character. No because of his jokes or his super powers but because he has everyday normal problems that we have. He is the most relatable character in comic book history. Being Spider-Man doesn't make his life better, it makes it worse.
Didn't the Movie do exactly that?
Stup ID noâŠnot at all lmao
It makes his life worse yet almost every variation of Spider-Man loved being Spider-Man so I donât think your comment holds up. Sounds nice though.
@@liquidocelot9502 Well his life as Peter definitely gets worse, but being Spider-Man definitely is portrayed as being fun...
@@BLAM5980 Well he had as much fun being Spider-Man as anywhere else, there were still moments in which he was scared and under pressure too like in the other adaptions.
And while Peter might not make any of his friends hate him like he often would Harry, he definitely made the dad of his crush, which consequently lead to them "breaking up" and her moving away.
He 100% knew that it wasn't going to end well for himself ("consequences"), but he did it anyways.
The thing is that Toms Spider-Man doesnât quip jokes or barely quipped once, he just talks and talks but he doesnât quip jokes
the one thing that always comes to mind when i think of peter parker is his life sucks and nothing ever goes his way.
"I'm not going for Spider-Boy."
*another one bites the dust*
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INSOMNIAC'S SPIDERMAN IS THE BEST SPIDERMAN SINCE SPIDERMAN 2
Edit: Let's add Spiderman: into the Spiderverse into the list
Random person I... agree with this...
I agree with this
Yahh you're right! :D
100%
I think the new Spider-man game is the best spider-man game to date, but I also think Ultimate Spider-man was better than spider-man 2.
Homecoming is not a spiderman movie but a highschool romcom marvel movie
crazy how now 3 years later NWH really fleshed out the concept of consequences for MCU peter on such a large scale.
Also people who say MCU Spider-Man is comic book accurate are missing one part of the argument... Peter Parker never got over uncle bens death
@@stanleysmooth Yeah, and the reason he became spiderman is because of him, had it not been for his death nothing else would've happened, he wouldn't have been able to lift the metal in the "if this be my destiny" panels. What's with this simplistic, superficial reading of the story?
@@stanleysmooth You never read a comic, did you?
With that same logic Spider-Man PS4 is bad because Peter Parker doesn't mention Uncle Ben.
In both movies, we're seeing a Spiderman wayyy after that all happened. Homecoming isn't an origin story.
@@dankgothtrash Your bait is a fail, since Ben is clearly seen on photos in the intro of game, showing how important he is to Peter. Ben is also shortly mentioned by Name in a dialogue with May AND you can visit Ben's grave to pay your respects, which gives the Player even a Trophy.
So, Ben is still really important in the PS4 game.
@@stanleysmooth You think you made a fucking point?
Also problem with the MCU: The timeline is messed up.
Civil war: Spiderman fights super heroes and is pretty good at it.
Homecoming (which plays AFTER Civil war): Spiderman does not know how to fight yet and has trouble fighting basic criminals.
What kind of self-respecting hero would beat the shit out of a 15 year old kid? Tony blatantly said that Cap would have kicked the living shit out of him if Cap really wanted to.
@@mikeshaftx who fucking cares that he's 15
The Alchemist itâs funny cause in the
comics spiderman would absolutely fucking destroy captain america
@@mikeshaftx Did you even see what Spidey did to Bucky and Sam?
He was trolling them both..... Cap won cuz it was his movie....
@@mikeshaftx in terms of raw strength, Spidey would split cap into 2 if he doesn't pull his punches
Iâm glad they fixed this, now one of peters loved ones may die because his mistake, the multiverse is fucked, his identity is revealed. His glasses were stolen and almost got ALL of his friends killed and now everything isnât fine. So maybe homecoming was softening us up for far from home and no way home.
*Light spoilers*
Yeah the previous two movies of the Holland series were just the extended origin story of Spider-Man (with still an odd absence of Uncle Ben which is quite strange) with this last one feeling like a (kinda) proper Spider-Man movie minus the multiverse shit
Good. now that he's pretty much a blank slate character, maybe they can write him better
i don't even know why i hate every inch of tom Holland spider man movies
MCU Spiderman is like a beautiful car with no engine
Underrated.
Agree with you
An overrated car(bugatti veyron)
Correct my spelling if I'm wrong
@@akhonankosi4704 your spelling is correct
Raimi's Spiderman is like a rusty car with a working engine
Webb's TASM is like a beautiful car with a broken engine
uncle Ben dies
Everything is fine
Oscar Vazquez I kinda agree with that because in homecoming it looked like he was already over it when that is the time he would think of Ben the most.
Sonic the Hedgehog yeah that I agree with also him being completely absent is something missing within how Tomâs version is written not his performance before anyone Holland fangirls attack me how he was written without Ben to be the catalyst for the whole with great power thing which is essentially channeled through stark is while a unique take is kinda unusual.
think that itâs kinda cool that theyâre taking a different aspect on it, but I do wish that they did make it more emotionally connecting
I mean.... yeah thats kinda true
Its as if peter forgot about his own uncle in the movie
Spiderman motivation is not even him, its Peter being iron-mans bitch.
Tom holland feels like a high budget parody of spider-man
Honestly
I hate the Tom Holland Spider-Manâs. They are all terrible. They all suffer from the same issue the MCU does: itâs not serious enough. They are literally always joking around even when the world is supposed to be ending; which completely breaks immersion and it makes me feel like the situation doesnât really matter and there are no consequences.
Bro No Way Home got pretty serious tho
when were they joking around in the Spider-Man movies
I honestly shipped Peter with Karen more than Liz.
*chants* k i s s t h e r o b o t
Nolan Greenwald sheâs an a.i not a robot.
@@user-oo3iy3nt1i *stops chanting* *starts chanting again* f u c k t h e A . I .
The thing i don't understand first he loves Liz then he loves mj like what the fucc?
@@shredderdb5752 that's how teenagers work
Raimi movies: "If somebody told you I was some ordinary kid without a care in the world, somebody lied."
Spiderman Homecoming: *IS LITERALLY AN ORDINARY KID WITHOUT A CARE IN THE WORLD*
Riptide Pictures except heâs Spider-Man
But is that a bad thing?
@@Neon-vh3pe yeah. Basic fundamentals of spiderman right there.
Riptide Pictures i understand ur defending it and all and ik tom holland is the perfect balance of peter parker and spiderman but u gotta admit,homecoming wasnt THATTTTT gud, hopefully far from home is awesome and possibly better than spiderman 2
@@nevilgeorge9472 I'm defending the Raimi movies, I dont like Homecoming. I meant that Homecoming didnt understand the basic fundamentals of spiderman, which is why it failed in my eyes. It's not like I'm a Raimi fanboy or anything, I like The Amazing Spider-man 1 and Tom was literally PERFECT as spiderman in Civil War. The Russo Brothers did an amazing job with Peter in Civil War, then Jon Watts shits all over that in Homecoming. Jon Watts is the issue imo
this video changed superhero discussions online forever
So happy you made this video I felt this spider was really missing a lot and not as good as the last two takes on it, and now I am finally able to put a finger on the exact reasons for that.
This Spider-Man just needs to stand on his own feet,
Thatâs all.
this spiderman sucks
Seeing as how Doctor Strange is rumoured to be his new mentor, that's most likely not happening
@The Ninjatitan no thats honestly coming from an objective view on his movies, TRASH
@The Ninjatitan Your Spider-Man is trash. You clearly have no taste
@@fezzy5591 bro sthu. Maybe your the one who has no taste dumb ass.
Spider-Man PS4: Be Greater
Spider-Man: Miles Morales: Be Yourself
MCU Spider-Man: Be Iron Man
thats actually very funny thanks for the laugh
hahaha
good one
Ain't that the truth lmaoo
Nah it's mcu Spider-Man: be miles
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Iâve never found someone I agreed with so much on these moviesđđŒ and Iâm so late to this too hahah
He's wrong tho
Yeah Peter Parker canât catch a break but the Raimi films go way overboard with it and it gets depressive and ridiculousâŠ.Andrewâs Spiderman was the perfect balance of hardships and comedy but alas Andrew will always be underestimated
Yeah cause never read a spiderman comic in your life
That was the whole central plot of Spider-Man 2 and when you have a movie with a self-contained story it's good to have a main plot point to focus on and the focus was on Peter's breaking point being Spider-Man. Specifically at the time of his life when everything seems to go wrong. To the point where he quits being Spider-Man because it's all too much. And need I say again that it's a movie, which means things will get dramatized and exaggerated
And there was plenty of comedy, it was done naturally and didn't feel forced
Peter doesnt feel so good...... But everything is fine
Kinda yea heâs fine now but tony isnât
@@icantthinkofagoodname4130 yea he's fine but there aren't any fucking consequences
Aunt May knows about peter's secret and for her it's ok, everything fine wtf
@@graziomarinolanza2400 yeah but he trusted the wrong person and doubted himself too much and now everybody knows his identity and he's probably a wanted criminal
@@arikbishop ya bro now i don't think everything is fine
Spoiler Alert for Far From Home
With all the talk of "no consequences," Having his identity revealed to the entire world in Far From Home is what he deserved.
âIf youâre nothing without the suit you donât deserve itâ
I think that line would be better in a movie about Iron Man.
Iron Man 3
did you not watch Iron Man 3?
StevieD True
Iron man 3
@@AzA609 what stevie makes sense because sm doesn't need a fucking suit at all. the guy has superhuman reflexes and can lift a fucking airplane. just give him 2 web shooters and he's good to go.
I still donât understand why people always say the cast for the original trilogy was too old. Heâs supposed to be 18 years old graduating high school that year in the movie. 18 year olds are grown men, not mentally but physically.
Finally someone agrees about Spider-Man homecoming
Ohh look a raimi fanboy agreeing homecoming is bad
Peter doesnât have any interaction with pizza
Everythingâs fine
I am currently ok with the events that are happening right now. (arm melts)
@@sheeloesreallycool Man of culture
đ€Łđ€Ł
*pizza time*
No...its...NOT
The most negative point of MCU spider-man is his motivation is tony stark not uncle Ben. He feels more sad for tony not for his uncle... EDIT - people who are saying that we have seen uncle ben die twice and don't want to see that again. I agree that we don't have to see that all things again and again. But it seems like MCU version spiderman never misses his uncle or never loved him. In comics too they never show uncle ben dying again and again but they show emotional and sypathatic connection between Peter and his uncle in other ways. But MCU Peter and May never mentions Ben...
That is what makes me irks me the most about mcu spidey
and im totally fine with that. but i think hi top films made good points so im not arguing or anything. i dont agree that homecoming is a BAD spider man movie, its just not the best
Weâve already seen that twice. If the MCU did that it wouldâve felt so redundant. I like this new fresh take on spidey
@@swarley6587 I agree. something has to change so people can keep watching new ones without feeling tired of the story/character
@@swarley6587 Yeah we have seen that twice and me too don't want to see uncle Ben dying. But his motivation should be uncle ben not tony stark. MCU spiderman seems to be tony Jr. Not Peter parker. Peter parker whenever is in self doubt its his uncle which kept him in his path of being hero not some random billionaire who just give him gadgets and cool suit and he think him as a father figure like wtf. Peter was never like this even in the comics. MCU just ruined Peter's character. That's the reason his character development is worse than any character of MCU... It just seemed forced and un relatable...
The fundamentals of Peter Parker is losing when spiderman wins đ
I just don't watch the new spiderman movies, nothing tops the Tobey ones
Well that's just being blinded by nostalgia
I pretty much agree with everything in this video. The MCU connected-ness kind of ruins it. I know this is also a common gripe, but for me, I prefer an older Spider-Man.
Having a Spider-man movie first and *then* let him join into the MCU.
All the other big heroes haad atleast one movie just for themselves with little hints towards the end that there might be something more.
@@HappyBeezerStudios Spiderman in the MCU is all about growing up and becoming independent, and he did that in far from home. The spiderman movies shows him going from innocent kid working for tony stark to independent hero that takes responsibility for his actions. For every movie he is moving further and further away from relying on other people.
Im still young so im growing up with these new spidey movies so I think its really cool even without the consequences thing and especially far from home
@@lesliverspy3095 I'm gonna put some dirt in your eye
@@alanr5910 awww thanks man I do have blue eyes
Although I loved homecoming, I actually really respect your opinion
Thank you for the heart hitop films, I appreciate it
I don't. His opinion is flawed and I don't have to respect it, however I still respect him as a person
@@kanoy7817 that's because you don't have a open mind
@@michaelthomas305 I do, I anilyzed his critiscims and came to the conclusion that their dumb, therefore his opinion deserves no respect from me just for being an opinion.
Nice kid.
Does anyone even care about homecoming or far from home anymore ? I doubt it. Like a lot of mcu films they're just disposable and forgettable and in this case just meh. Even no way home most people are starting to see through and realise beyond the nostalgia there's not much else to appreciate . The mcu spider man flicks weren't made to last.
false people still love these movies
i can agree on 2 and 3 but homecoming is generally such a unique superhero movie and a fresh take on spiderman stories in general. it feels so new compared to so many other superhero movies so its easily one of my top favorites
â@@rhinuu045thats interesting, and i can appreciate that sentiment. I personally felt like it was a classic sidekick trying to prove himself/outgrow his mentor, and I wasn't very fond of it, but I understand the appreciation of a new take on spiderman.
11:31 I've watched all of your Spider-Man videos for the first time this week and this was the last one on the list, so this unmasking was like an actual face reveal for me haha
I can't take this Tom Holland version of Spiderman seriously because everything is perfect for him. He has a hot aunt, good looks, trillionaire Dad/Mentor who is literally Iron Man, unlimited resources and even the "worse case scenario" plot twists are swept under the rug. He even died and came back in an instant, it's ridiculous. This is not a character, he is a live-action cartoon with a spider-themed Iron Man suit. Next.
Couldn't have said it better.
You are right this new movie is quite childish and doesnt have the real spiderman drama. The actions are so much better in old ones.
Pretty late answer but dont care.
My opinion: people have a herd mentality when it comes to hollands spiderman and its partly because most of them consist of MCU fan boys and the like.
Hollans spiderman is whiny for no reason
You got a very good point. While Tobey Maguire's and Andrew's Spider-Man actually expressed the true meaning behind his Character, Tom's Spiderman just relies on Tony Stark and Happy to help him. Everytime there's a "big problem", he just has Tony to give him a stronger suit and Happy to give him better resources. He isn't Spider-Man, just some Tony Stark employee
@@mellow2636 He means he basically came back in the next movie
Insomniac shouldâve wrote this movie
agreed
Yep definitely
no
@@iblamefps ok why not
@@iblamefps so your saying because they made a story specifically for a game there are not as capable on the making of a movie,
Here is the truth, a good writer can form a mediocre story into a great one and a bad writer canât even make a great story into a good one,
I see everything you're talking about, but, for some reason none of it really bothers me. Peter may not be suffering life-altering consequences but he still struggled. I don't need every single choice in his life to be a severe cause-and-effect. He still struggles and has to bounce back from stuff, and is clearly just barely holding the dual identities thing together. He's flying by the seat of pants, and that feels very Peter.
Him having such a technological suit is a byproduct of them forcing him into the MCU when/how they did. If we didn't want him to have that suit, then they should have waited until after Civil War to introduce Peter. It was already introducing Black Panther after all. Peter felt like an afterthought in Civil War, as fantastic as his scenes were in it.
Also, hard disagree on Michelle. I have a huge softspot for snarky broods who aren't really threats and actually mean well. The fact she has a crush on Peter makes her behavior really endearing to me; she's afraid to open up honestly, as we see in her final scene. Also, I don't have much experience with Mary Jane beyond Raimi 1 and 3 (never saw 2 lol), but has she ever been a super deep character either? Not to besmirch her character in the slightest, but the biggest trait I've ever garnered about her was that she has red hair. Ultimately, Michelle Jones and Mary Jane are clearly two different characters, even if they do both fill the same spot of being Peter's "MJ."
What a way to say that you don't respect Spider-Man's character.
after no way home most of these points about Hollands Spidey just aren't true anymore.
Agreed Homecoming as a film is a great movie, but as a Spider-Man movie it's pretty flawed. Like in Spider-Man PS4 shows how you could make a good Spiderman story with all the themes like responsibility and balancing his hero and personal life without needing to give him an unnecessary high-tech suit or being dependent on another hero.
In Spider-Man PS4 he is 23 and has 8 years of experience.
In Homecoming he is 15 and has 8 months of experience. Seeing the difference?
And he got the AI only because he hacked the suit. Tony didn't want him to use it.
Mike Dasik 8 months is still enough time to be at least competent. Spider-Man in the comics didnât take almost a year to figure out how to be Spider-Man. Sure he wasnât perfect but he was way more competent than Holland. By 8 months he should be able to at least catch a car of just random criminals.
Mike Dasik compare the consequences though insomniacâs Peter by the end should be completely shattered as a person ... but he picks himself back up, puts on the costume and goes back to protecting the city and granted while Hollandâs Peter does the same at the end the other element of consequence is virtually nonexistent.
@@dasik84The A.I being there in the first place is the problem, when I first watched Civil War, I didn't see Tom Holland, I saw Peter Parker/Spider-M and when Tony gave him the suit I thought he just gave him a better looking suit and advanced the already impressive technology created by Peter but then came Homecoming we have 500+ web combinations ? Am okay, Instant kill mode, ah okay ? An then an A.I the suit just becomes an Ironman suit re painted as a Spidey suit even if it was only part of the training wheels protocol but still it's there.
@@dasik84 Also let's be honest even though he goes through some consquences in the film it never truly affected him or his loved ones I mean he literally just walks out of detention. Compare that to the consquences he goes through in Spiderman 2 or Spider-Man PS4. If they wanted it to add comedy in the film they could have added the humorous abundant of consequences that Alex speaks about in this video.
One of the fundamental characteristics of Peter Parker is self-improvement. He makes mistakes, terrible ones that'll stay with him forever, and accepts them to his very core. As a result, he gets a little better, he improves and grows.
Yup, totally typed this in 3 seconds.
The Amazing Spider-Man in a nutshell.
@@xnenxnly was that a joke?
@@v.rprasad5377 was it?
@@xnenxnly I think it is.
@@v.rprasad5377 ok, then you answered your question.
Finally, someone who understands and expresses all my thoughts about the MCU Spiderman. I'm so disappointed by these movies! And the fact that Spectacular Spiderman was canceled for them hits a whole other level of frustration. I doubt we'll see a good rendition of Spidey anytime soon anymore.
Play the spiderman ps4 ... That version of spiderman is really great
Spectacular spider man was cancelled because marvel bought the license for tv rights merchandise and everything else other than film rights before Disney ever made a deal with sony
Why is there these crappy requirements for what a good âSpider-Man movieâ is. It should just be âwhatâs makes a good movieâ. HiTops complains about the suit just because âitâs not what Spider-Man doesâ. Iâm sorry, do you want Spider-Man to be the exact same and not work in the universe they were put in?
@@shreyansjain4094 He's better than the MCU Spider-Man for sure, but I don't like his super close relationship with the cops
spiderverse exists
I swear i could remember people saying they didnt want the old origin story with spider bite. uncle Ben exc. They wanted something new. And now when they have the new they want to go back
Hey! The video was recently blocked in all countries because the song I used at the end, so I had to remove it using the CZcams editor and now the last minute or so sounds like absolute trash. Sorry about that!
For a sec I thought my audio went out
Your wrong about the mcu films they are good
maybe next time don't use the main song of the movie your talking smack about unless its for comedy purposes
@@jamesrivercfcreviews1527 He can't be wrong, he said it himself, it's his OPINION. Opinions can't be wrong. And there are actually a lot of MCU movies that he does like. He's not a hater. He just knows how to distinguish good and bad storytelling. Not all MCU films are good
@@jamesrivercfcreviews1527 Shut up.
Homecoming lacked epic swings, hand to hand combat, emotion, and important life lessons. It was more of a comedy, and Tom Holland is more of an Ironman sidekick than a Spider Man.
Toilet Paper Mountain pretty much
@Toilet Paper Mountain That is reason why I don't think of much of the new MCU Spider-Man movies.
The point of it was to be a comedy. Nobody wants 3 sad Spider-Man movies in a row lol time to move on and change things up.
Funnel Star I knew that comment was coming đ€ŠđŸââïžđ yes bruh I know Spider-Man , most of my marvel comics library are made of Spider-Man & X-men comics , as for my taste in movies well thatâs different , Iâve seen literally 4-5 different interpretations of Spider-Man all of them different in their own way , there would be nothing new or refreshing about this movie if they just did the same ole story for a 3rd straight time , im fine with a highschool comedy peter parker. Doesnât bother me any.
Darien Griffin they couldâve created a new version of spiderman without making him basically a lighter version of miles
These comments aged like fine wine as well as this video.
Also I donât want anyone saying only NWH was good bc the point of the trilogy was that it was a long arc.
how can anybody dislike tobey's spiderman? His was the best and most complete. His spiderman movie literally caused me to bust my head open, just because I wanted to climb my house walls like him.....
that's called stupidity
@@Shadxw6 thats called a great fkn movie.
no way you actually bust your head open i hope youre trolling
@@Shadxw6 Bro I swear to god Im not lolol. We just came from the movie teather and I started doing that hands and feet wall climb, and my brother punched me in the nuts. When a movie causes you to break a bone, or bust your head, you better believe its a great movie
@@Shadxw6 bro i became unconscious as soon as I hit the floor, I fast traveled to the hospital, and then passed out again, fast travel homeđ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł fuck spiderman fr đ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
bro they replaced uncle ben with tony stark..........what is the mcu doing???
Lol no one wants to see Ben die the billionth time. Tony is his sergeant father who is now dead đ. Deal with it bro
Captain Cybertron âsergeantâ đ
@@1blythe o shit my bad
well it works for the mcu, just not for the story of spider-man
@TheDuck ThatQuacks Again, nobody said we wanna see him get shot. We wanna see how his influence is affecting Peter. Looks to me that you HAVE NOT played Spider-Man PS4. They didn't retell Benjamin getting mugged or even mention the event. It's just Peter thinking about whether or not he's doing the right thing and whether it would make Ben proud. Plus, DID YOU NOT WATCH THE VIDEO? He clearly said no one wanna see Uncle Ben dying again.
The MCU's spiderman is not spiderman at all, he's spiderboy
Ironboy
He's ironman's bitch and that's not the spiderman I grew up with.
@@argop4518 in fact thats not even spiderman
Amai Ai thatâs not the point
Amai Ai no itâs not like this , the writing is shit peter doesnât need nobody thatâs why heâs Spider-Man because heâs on his own and his life sucks and nobody is really there for him except Ben Parker who didnât even reminded in the movie
I liked it. I also just donât generally care if they stuck to comic accuracy. Like if I really wanted to see my classic spider-man Iâd just go through some of my old comics. Iâm fine seeing the character be changed to this universe and I think it fits him and builds room for them to make him really a brand new unique character.
One of his defining characteristics is life hands him a lot of shit, he can never catch a break
@Erik Kemeey ? I donât understand how your comment is relevant to my comment but okay
@@aliciamarie3096 So why hating on this one
''Intelligence is not a privilege, it's a gift. And you use it for the good of mankind '' - Dr Otto Octavius
Thatâs not even a good iteration of Otto
@@jinxluvver3909 You're trash Alpha Ferocity.
@@jinxluvver3909 stfu
Briliant but lazy.
Ălpha Ferocity itâs actually an accurate juxtaposition of what Otto becomes by saying using intelligence for the good of mankind he ends up using it for the opposite path which is becoming a criminal until Peter convinced him to control the arms and Otto redeems himself and fixing what he did by sacrificing both him and his experiment.
"But Tom Holland is actually a highschooler!"
Spider-Man stopped being a highschooler in the 90's. It's time to- what's that? Spider-Man started college in the 60's? He was a highschooler for only around 30 issues? Ooooh.
Ironboy Jr.
He prefered to be Ironman Jr., rather than to be spiderman.
Yes you're right
*Sike*
@cjentertains don't even try to compare the ultimate Spider-Man one of the greatest comics to Tom's garbage
@cjentertains yeah well I guess they are doing a terrible job at it the ultimate Spider-Man is way better and responsible
Peter never gives up, and always takes responsibility. He is also smart, kind, and brave.
Seeing this video being recommended to me again is always welcome. I always love to be reminded that what makes Spider-Man 'Spider-Man' is the element of sacrifices and consequences. That's why Tobey is the closest to the real depiction of the spirit of Spider-Man
*I just need to be a hero because I want to become an avenger*
hEâs CoMIc aCcURaTe
If someone tells you that Tom's Spider-Boy is a accurate depiction of comic book Spider-Man, that person doesn't know the comics.
@@kevintanza6968 His personality is comic accurate, but, his motivation, no, thats not spidey
Laziiner I agree but only with the quips. Heâs not a science nerd.
Andrew J I actually love the portrayal of spider-man in civil war. However, it seems as his motivation presented in civil war was not developed in the later movies.
@@laziiner1682 Stop talking out your ass. Even Ultimate Spider-man (Cartoon) has a more accurate personality then Spider-Baby.
Even the Amazing Spider man 2 had consequences lol
Doesn't mean shit if the movie is shit
@@salarzx62090 They DO mean shit get over yourself, it may have been a weaker Spiderman movie sure, but Spiderman still is Spiderman in it, not a great Peter but the scenes were amazing when he fought Electro, Electro's story was amazing, and Gwen's death was sad
Still leagues better than Homecoming
@@Ash12241991 Lol they absolutely do not mean shit if the story is so fucking illogical and nonsensical that it gets in the way of taking those consequences seriously. And Spider-Man isn't Spider-Man. Because Spider-Man quipping while letting tons of people die is totally what I think of when I think of Spider-Man. Electro being amazing? LMAO. Not even close. I guess that's why it's so better than Homecoming. Because this movie enticed so many people to see it and this movie gathered SO many positive reviews that Sony totally didn't scrap the franchise and continued on with the reboot. What are you smoking because I want that shit
@@salarzx62090 Oh im sure we are gonna think Electro is lame just cuz you said so
Electro was built up great, he was a human you felt empathy for, maybe you lack just empathy and wanted him to be a Stark inspired villian
Unlike you, some of us can appreciate hard work, the set, the action scenes, the web swinging, the character development
Overall movie not as great as we wanted, but its very immature of you to try to scrap the rest, like the actual good parts
And youre completely misinformed , the series got cancelled over a Garfield meeting with a Sony higher up, not cuz the movie did bad
@@drew318 if you think Homecoming is the best "Spider-man" movie theres no point in even debating
I mean im not gonna tell you not to like it, ppl are allowed to like what they like but your point seems to be
"Oh he acts like a teenager, best spiderman movie"
Reason Why Toby Is Better Than All Spidermans (TRUE FACT BTW)
Mr. Ditkovich
Give me rent
It's almost like you guys forget that this Spider-Man has only been Spider-Man for a couple of years and he was "born" into a world filled with already present heroes. I guarantee that he will fit the typical Spider-Man role you guys want him to very soon.
None of these guys actually understand a Spider-Man thatâs in the MCU already
@@ken-yo2hz It's crazy too, because I made this comment before I saw the movie. And now, after seeing the movie, I can firmly say, people are definitely getting the Peter they want.
@@jackfoudray I used to be one of those guys that wanted MCU Spider-Man to be Spider-Man. But how could he when his first appearance was fighting the Avengers? And fighting in space? This movie made me realise the reasons why HC and FFH felt off
It's cause they took most of Miles Morales defining character traits and gave them to Peter Parker. That's why he even if he's playing the character well it doesn't feel like Peter Parker.
I'm gonna report you
Joking
ToaRanen7 Yep
Me too
Finally someone who noticed this too!!
Omg I think you are actually Right!
I love Tom holland as spiderman. He a heart good kid who is awkward , lonely , but I see your point , iron man doesn't define spiderman , uncle ben does, feels like Peter parker forgot the great power comes great responsibility.
When Peter first meets Tony he says "When you can do the things that I can, but you don't, and then the bad things happen? They happen because of you." This means the same as with great power comes great comes responsibility. He goes after Toomes in HoCo and later helps strange and Tony in IW despite Tony telling him not to as he believed in this.
Why did you write it like that
@@emerald7365 i just think Peter parker should mention uncle Ben he is the one who tought him to be a hero
@@Boomer_Schooner_24 yeah definetly
Tom Holland dosent even seem like a spiderman he seems more like a iron boy Jr and also he is supposed to be saving everybody when he leaves everybody die and try to get this one girl which dosent make him a spiderman
"And I figured just for fun I'm gonna make him have personal problems"
-Stan Lee
1922-2018
@Erik Kemeey bro every Peter has personal problems
No Way Home proved y'all wrong. The whole Homecoming trilogy was his origin. Marvel went in a different path but all wanted them to show Spiderman powerful and perfect from the very beginning
Fact
Doing a complete 180 on a story doesn't make it an origin. It was clear they did not plan this at all because there are still flaws with this version of Spidey even if they fixed most of it. I guarantee the writers just saw all the criticism and decided to fix it after FFH.
@@BlueBlur2003 exactly. That shit wasn't planned lol just accept that they were aware of the problems and they fixed it đ€·
@@TheEmperorRaidou MCU have a plan for Spider-man,dude.
Tom Holland could be the definitive spider-man, but heâs being held back by the MCUâs connected universe and tone. They favor quips and avengers references over real character pieces. They very rarely make a movie with real character depth
Just when Spidey is pulled out of MCU, he's brought back in đ
Sugary Heaven yeah itâs stupid, greedy businesses will be greedy
@@JoelsCreed141 They say that Tom Holland was the one who helped Disney and Sony pull off a deal
I think most of their movies have character depth.
Right, he could've been the one to break the mold and ended up restricted by it
"He ditches Liz at homecoming and............ Everything is fine"
Bc it would be the better thing to do...
@@bramsteenhoek2674 He said in the video that how spidey is supposed to be is that, no matter what he does, whether right or wrong, something bad happens.
@@GameboyFanatic If your think that Spidey should be shit on ALL the time you're wrong. It's should be most of the time. He can have a win for once like in the comics
Bram Steenhoek these guys just seem to really love pity parties and seeing others depressed I guess...
@@YungLanxx Spiderman getting shit on should not take central stage.
I love mcu spiderman movies as movies
But i hate it asa spiderman movies
Its more of a ironbaby homecoming
The new spiderman trilogy was supposed to be his origin story, not just homecoming
Bullshit, that's just an excuse
@@vesha6274 How? That was the fucking point of the trilogy, to show his origin and how he became spider-man. People like you are so dumb and ignorant
So...you got demonetized.
*sits in chair
this comment is my everything
I have finally found someone who agrees with my thoughts on the movie
Every Spider-Man fan agrees with this. Those 20.000+ people who downvoted this vid dont know what makes Spider-Man the greatest Hero in Comics.
Hell Spider-Man PS4 is a better Spider-Man movie than Homecoming^^
Uhhhhhhhhhh.......
Every single one?
*cough cough* Cosmonaut Variety Hour *cough cough*
Same, this movie sucks
@F completely agree with you men
@@JesseBJames name one movie thats better
Itâs really nice to see someone else out here agreeing with me
Characteristics of Peter Parker: weak, nerdy, outcast, unlucky and afraid.
this is why i preffer comic peter parker
This is why so many people loved spiderman ps4, spiderman was 23, not in school or anything. Works way better than putting him in hs
The Insomniac games Spider-Man is the most good looking Peter Parker. (But not in the Ps5 remastered version)
@@Alex-sc2mr yeah I hate how they re did him
Aye Year I mean look at every characters face remastered theyâre HORRIFYING!
@@Alex-sc2mr i know lmao
In the context of that story, yes. We donât need to see his origin; we get the point, and nothing happened in that universe that would. The events of The Avengers makes Peter being in his 20s in this movie completely ridiculous.
Why homecoming is overrated according to me?
1. Peter ain't relatable at all
2. It's not Spiderman, it's technology man
3. No high stakes
4. Where the hell is Harry
MJ is fucking Zendaya.
Were is uncle ben?
Why is Peter so happy snd lucky.
MCU is bs and shouldn't be in SM movies.
Ionut DU zendaya was perfect for the role
ben is dead
the last phrase didnât make sense and i loved smhc and smffh
Yâall just sad we donât have a spider man 1 remake
@@iCat4Ever Zendaya could've pulled MJ off, but she didn't because the writers made her seem like some edgy teen instead.
I don't care about Harry, but all the other points, i agree with
Thatâs why itâs a trilogy journey. No Way Home will show you next level consequences PP/Spidey will have to deal with.
No consequences except for the whole part of the story where peter has to face the consequences for his reckless actions on the ferry or him almost killing all of his friends on the trip