Spider-Man No Way Home: The Villains Realize They Died
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- Green Goblin (Willem Dafoe) is invited by Peter (Tom Holland) and meets with the villains. He tells them each how they died a few years ago.
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Seeing Green Goblin, Doc Ock and Sandman from the Raimi trilogy all in one scene together, talking to each other is a sight I thought I`d never see.
Like The Spectacular Spider-Man
Too bad no venom. Not only would it have given us Spider-Man’s 3 greatest enemies at once if venom was here, but It would also be like Spider-Man friend or foe the game, but in live action
@@Albino_Basilisk Spoiler
Instead we got the other Venom. But hey we might get a new one in the MCU.
It was great seeing electro and lizard interacting too
@@jalenmitchell9218 yeah it was cool to see lizard again
Props to Sandman for being the only survivor and his entrance started with helping Peter Parker. One of the best characters
Lizard didn’t die either, he was sent to prison and “visited” by that “man in the shadows” guy in the end credits, even if he died by the second (Andrew Garfield) movie, it was probably in prison from “withdrawals” from his Lizard Serum or maybe some after effect that made his body deteriorate fast without the serum, not because of Spider-Man.
@@cwa728 He wasn't stored in a vivarium and passed.
it would be nice if he was actually there tho
Fun fact: his actor (Thomas Hayden Church) didn't want to appear in person due to COVID, so they just accepted his voice files and CGI-d him into the film....he wanted to be in it, but since filming took place in 2020, he didn't want to take the risk due to being an older gentleman.
@@BladedBearalso I think he was busy with other projects. And Rhys Ifans lives in London, so he wasn’t able to travel to the USA when they were filming.
The look on Electro's face when he realized that he was about to die is just hilarious.
Electro: What else is new?
Just the slow build to him realizing what was going to happen kills me.
Yeah, Jamie Foxx was great in this movie. I loved how they handled Electro.
@@Hei_Darkfire the villains was the most I was hyped for this movie mainly electro. This was my endgame. Grew up on Spider-Man since the 1994 series so ima always put this movie over any marvel/superhero/avengers movie. Think about it. Only Spider-Man can pull this off. Everyone has to compare the avengers getting together everyone in endgame jus to compete with one universe ie Spider-Man’s. His and X-men always had the best villains
@@eastwood1026 Yeah. NWH was by far the best Spiderman movie to date. It was so nice seeing almost all of the McGuire and Garfield villains all come back (save those like Venom and Harry Osborn).
Just seeing Willem Dafoe and Alfred Molina having dialogue together in this movie was absolutely amazing to see
Did you see that clip of them together in Spider-Man 2 “unofficially”? But yeah, I agree.
0:31-0:34 makes me 😃.
Which we knew how they know one another. Not as villains or scientists but as old college friends who bickering at one another over a project.
But too bad the dialogue between Tobey Maguire with the Norman, Sandman and Ock is too short...I was hoping that Tobey hv a long chat with them....
The multiverse idea shows that we all have fantasm over these characters. It reminds me when we all used, one way or another, play with different licences minifigures and invent our very own world with them interacting. It's that idea that's projected on the big screen and I love it.
Everytime I hear sandman say "they both died, fighting Spider-Man." I get chills I love it.
Yes!
a chilling gravy voice sandman has
Lol
I get chills too when sandman says “It was all over the news” when it WASNT
@@khayree7929 that was after Spider-Man 3
I love that these villians actually know each other it just expands their own movie universes more.
Did Connors know Dr. Osborne from his universe
@@llarmstrong783 pretty sure yeah since Osborn is founder in oscrope
Bruh Norman Osborn is from another universe not this universe you know spider man Tom Holland universe
@@llarmstrong783 It's possible. Since Octavious is friends with the Connors of his universe, it's possible that Norman met Connors too.
@@ryanstauffer119 I wish both Normans had been there lol
Sandman:“They died fighting spiderman“
He never said:“Spider-Man killed them“
He knows
Well he knows Spider-Man doesn't kill people plus like he said it was all over the news ppl could've blamed him for their deaths (like Jameson) but there was nothing to even suggest that
@@kendallhunte2055 i mean he knows he will not die or did not die
@@ponglenis9273 exactly he knows that for himself not the others especially since they faced Spider-Man before he did although having a body made of sand instead of the conventional human one (plus physical/mechanical enhancements) comes in clutch against a bloodthirsty Spider-Man
Truthfully it’s not just ock and goblin who died fighting with Spiderman. Venom is dead too and obviously revived some where.
@@kendallhunte2055hen I read your comment I remembered Aunt May dialogue from spiderman 3
Spiderman doesn't kill people
I like how Lizard asking if he died is a nod towards the fact that he’s the only villain in the room who actually lived.
He and Sandman survived
If I remember right, Connors actually got killed off screen by death penalty after not saying Spiderman's real name to the weird guy in the post credits scene of the first movie (but I might be spreading some misinformation, don't trust me)
@@maximoleon3110Sandman, definitely survived though
@@maximoleon3110he didn’t get killed off.
@@maximoleon3110I thought he was put in a mental institution
1:08 Green Goblin’s reaction in learning that he died fighting Spider-Man motivated him to destroy his enemy
You can hear the Goblin come out 0:53, the way his voice changes. Norm was confused while the Goblin was in denial
@@stingingcashew2321 damn that's true
@@etam8099 I just wish that we could see how did the new Sinister Six end up being here alive in the MCU universe of the Avengers and their different Spider-Man are living in their lives with more screen? But then they didn’t make the classic villains like that they were the main antagonist of the original Spider-Man movie, and see what Norman Osborne looked like when he came to the new universe.
they didn’t exactly get killed by spiderman, he just helped them to their death😂
@@riseandshine5824 well... goblin was about to pull peter in for a hug and his plan was to kill them both with his glider's blades.
and doc voluntarily sacrificed himself to stop the literal star generator. had he not stopped it, i think it grows big enough to destroy the world.
both of these are the villain's own faults.
I like how Max is mocking Octavius for struggling to explain what happened to him just to have the same problem a few seconds later.
I love the look Norman has at 0:13. The scientist in him is becoming amazed by how similar, yet different this world is to his own.
Totally. Some see it as rude or some kind of dismissive action to forego the pleasantries of introductions, but really people like that are so simply engrossed with the discovery, taking in the the experience of the new, that unless there is a more pressing issue (like some kind of immediate threat, ie not about to explode on all their faces and instead the situation is comfortable and calm) their mind becomes entirely preoccupied with learning/interacting with said discovery. Where some get shocked pulling the leaver and regress into primal rage, or fearful preservation, the scientifically adventurous immediately regress into '....Hrmm, does it do that every time? [pulls lever again]' Of course the scientifically cautious say, 'Hey Bill, pull this lever. I need you to test something for me....'🤣🤣🤣
Honestly I would react same as norman if I go to another universe seeing alternate version of my friend
0:13 IDK why but I just love the way he says, "Fascinating!" 😅😅
He is a something of a scientist himself
@@mandi8345 That's how you end up with Ultron! 😂😂😂
0:55
“God, I love it here.”
*Don’t we all 😂😂😂*
Osbourne and Octavius having a conversation it's one of the best scenes to see
Totally 💯
Which is funny because theres a behind the scenes video of Defoe surprising Molina on set of Spiderman 2!
@@Thomasmemoryscentral really?
The beep on Electro makes me laugh and this is a great scene in No Way Home
Agreed 😂😂
I was looking for someone who pointed this out.
same 😂
Bruh I thought I was the only one 😂
I just realise, when Otto says "I had him, by the throat." ... that was the moment right before Peter ( Tobey) managed to get through to him, so only -just- before he managed to control the tentacles again himself. Indeed right before he was about to die.
i always found it weird how otto just regain control of the tentacles at just the right moment only the sacrifice himself I always thought it was just Peter breaking through to Otto's humanity but as somebody else pointed out in another video the moment otto comes to his senses in Spider-Man 2 could have been the exact moment he was sent back to his universe
@@chrisbetancourt7111 I think he only remembers the part right before coming to his senses. But the whole regaining control of the arms was an act of pure will.
@@chrisbetancourt7111 It would also line up with Norman's return to consciousness at the end of Spider-man one, right before the glider hits him, could've been Norman coming back from this event
Technically spiderman would have killed otto if he hadn't remembered aunt may's advice
@@patrickyanthan1405no Spider-Man never killed his enemies
Electro realizing he was about to die always gets me 😂
And Lizard wondering if he died too, altho he got a fate worse than death. A goddamn life sentence
@@yuuyakizami2133 And the Lizard was stil inside him
Watching this scene. The Villains alone made this the Greatest Ensemble.
This is like Avengers Infinity War & Endgame...But with Villains!!! I love this movie so much.
Osborne; think people, everyone in this wizard’s dungeon has died fighting Spider-Man
Connors; Umm I haven’t
@@megalon73 Sandman didn't die
@@RobertoMartinez-hn1rg I know he didn’t.
You're gonna love the Thunderbolts
Me too. Grew up on Spider-Man 1994 animated series since I was 6 so this movie was basically my avengers endgame I kno everyone was most hype to c Andrew and tobey but for me it was all the former villains. I’ll always love this movie rover any super hero movie because they really brought every villain back and succeeded at it (minus Dane dehaan’s harry and topher graces venom)
It was so mindblowing to see the villains from different universes talking and sharing stories. And electro's attitude about taking down his spider-man,( andrew Garfield), then realizing that spidey with the help of gwen defeated him was hilarious due to how he reacted.
All things considered, he took it pretty well. Love how Lizard was actually nervous enough to ask if he died too
I just love how he says “I was woping Spider-Man ass” cause he was 😂😂
I kno a lot of people didn’t like andrews harry but he would’ve fit n perfectly here 3 from andrews and 3 from tobeys. Him,Max and Curt Connors all coulda had an interesting chat regarding what happened with the forming of sinister six when harry was in ravenscroft
@@eastwood1026 yeah but they already had one goblin
@@csab8642 But at the same time it would be nice if they did that. The fact that Norman's son (Harry) died in Sam Raimi's franchise and Harry's father (Norman) dies in Mark Webb's franchise, it would be cool for the Osborns to "technically" be reunited but just from different universes
I love how solemn Connors sounds when he asks Max if he died
He sounds so scared when he asks
I think after the events of Spider-Man 3, since Norman and Harry Osborn died, nobody owned the Osborn mansion, so I think they found the goblin lair in the mansion with all of the goblin equipment in to confirm that Norman was the Green Goblin. Then they must of found the goblin mask and glider in the abandoned Hospital building that Tobey and Goblin fought in. Then they must of recovered Doc Ocks dead body and his machine aswell. So I think that's how Sandman knows that Norman was the Goblin and Octavius drowned.
What i thougth was that Harry died wearing Goblin equipment, and Tobey-Peter was unable to hide his corpse in time, so many investegated how Harry found the equipment, leading to Norman's identity being exposed.
Both of your comments sound plausible.
Yeah, I wouldn’t be surprised if in the Raimiverse some people got a hold of Osborn’s tech and Serum and juiced themselves up on it to become his honorary followers, like a Goblin Horde
Yeah, I wouldn’t be surprised if in the Raimiverse some people got a hold of Osborn’s tech and Serum and juiced themselves up on it to become his honorary followers, like a Goblin Horde
Don’t you think Ock’s body would’ve been destroyed since it was a sun ball machine
I love how all the Rami villains came together in this movie. Especially the Sandman telling the Green Goblin and doctor Octopus how they both died. Plus you have Dr. Connors from another universe who’s actually good friends with Otto Octavius in the Sam Rami universe. This movie was amazing.
Yeah but minus is venom.
"Mary Jane?"
"Uh it's Michelle Jones"
Ned thinking *shit he must be a stoner*
Pretty underrated moment of this film IMO
"You're too late, Spider-Man. Weed has been legalised."
@@l.pricetag.5207 "When did crime have to be the excuse? I'm already breaking the law being a vigilante"
*Beats the crap out of you*
Man I wish this scene was longer because It's always interesting to see villains having interactions with each other. Personally I feel like this scene was a little too short before the fight scene between Spider-Man and Dr. Strange.
Indeed, I want hear them talking about the counterpart of lizard and Norman osborn. There is already 2 movies with different lizard and Norman Osborn
@@nandiwardhana3776 Agree. Definitely a wasted opportunity for them to talk about another version Dr. Conners being The Lizard, and Norman Osborn being the Green Goblin.
@@nandiwardhana3776 Same for Otto and the Lizard.
Otto: You said your name was Curt Connors?
Connors: What about it?
Otto: I have a Curt Connors where I come from. Only he was a physics professor and not...whatever this is.
Connors: *growls*
Otto: Actually, Peter Parker is a student of his. It's how we met in the first place. We've had our battles but I still have to admit the boy's brilliant. Brilliant...but lazy.
Connors: That sounds a lot like my Peter Parker. Except where I'm from he's the son of my former colleague. They tried to create a serum that could regenerate my arm, but I never expected...this.
Then they both just contemplate that maybe their Peters were right about their research.
The problem was the actors for Sandman and Lizard weren't ever on set. If they were, they would've given them more spotlight
@@rylade475, that could work in the deleted scenes.
And this is why Sandman is essential, he came after Goblin and Doc Oc so he knows enough of the history for them to put the pieces together.
Yep but a lot of newbie mcu fans who don’t kno shit bout Spider-Man still ask why he was in the movie.
@@eastwood1026 that’s what I’m saying, a lot of “plot holes” in this film can be easily explained
@@eastwood1026everyone know about spiderman big bro
I just wished dok ock acknowledged that he knew a curt Connors from his universe.
Also Dr Strange since he's name dropped in Spider-Man 2 so he exists and is well known in Toby's universe
So would conners and Dillon when they knew about Norman Osborn in there universe.
@@disneyknightspadilla1406
They already knew that Norman Osborn is dead in their universe. That's why Dillon said, "God, I love it here".
I get literal CHILLS at the Tobey/Raimiverse references.... "they both died, fighting Spider-Man" 😱😱😱
Real ❤️
Yeah I know
It surprised me to see this movie acknowledge the trend of killing villains in superhero movies and use that as a main plot point for the villains in this one.
oh woah a check mark? Gotta be first comment so that when this comment gets popular later on people will see this.
Yeah I know
Technically sandman and lizard didn’t die
They didn't
Lizard ended up in jail
But they still knew Peter's identity so they were in the movie. But the villains that was alive was the ones that were also underutilized in the movie which sucks, they could have made the Lizard more three-dimensional rather than the Lizard he was in TASM1.
@@somecallmejeremy I can't remember if it was strictly Covid measures that prevented the two actors from appearing physically, but I'd bet that the need for digital de-aging (which was already being used on Dafoe and Molina) was a factor. Why bother spending more time and money editing the actors' scenes when they can just use the CGI versions the whole movie and just splice old footage for the curing scene?
This would naturally push them out of the spotlight given how the 3D characters don't convey emotion as well
@@NamelocTheBard Good point, plus Sony also have the need to release a Spider-Man movie every 2 years so they could still have the Spider-Man rights hence the December 2021 date with Far From Home being released in 2019.
Nonetheless, I still hope they did characterize the other two villains so they can have their moments of shine because Lizard and Sandman is underrated villains.
Here's hoping they reuse them for the next Spider-Man trilogy.
Never in a million years in my lifetime did I believe I would ever see a Spider Man movie like this. Having all of the villains come back and team up with each other is just unbelievable. Seeing all three of the Rami villains talk to each other and be together was just a shock. Also having all Spider men together in this movie was just mind blowing. It was absolutely incredible!
Sometimes I can’t believe this movie actually happened. It’s the kind of thing kids would only fantasize.
I feel the exact same way. I’m 34 and been watching Spider-Man since I was 6. Several years before tobey debuted so this movie was jus a fuccin fetish for me lmao and I’ll never put any other super hero movie over it because of the history and culmination and comradery surrounding all 3 Spider-Man franchises
Ok
@@eastwood1026yeah I know what you mean
Yeah I know
If Bernard the butler figured out how Norman died I’m pretty sure Octavius was able to figure it out before the news got to it
Exactly. Octavius was a genius and was clearly acquainted with Osborn, possibly close friends given their first-name basis. It’s not a stretch to assume that he learned of it long before the public became aware of it after he and Harry were dead.
@@12classics39 also, considering that Osborn supposed died around the same time the Green Goblin fought and was killed by Spider-Man. Doc Ock probably put 2 and 2 together
The way Norman says Ottos last name really gave me goosebumps, but in a good way as a Spider Man fan. I always wondered if they knew each other in their own universe and this finally proves that they do know each other considering the fact that they’re both villains of Spider Man and they’re both scientists before they both turned bad. I have to say. This movie really brought almost everything full circle.
Willem Dafoe is such a gem of an actor. I could watch him and Molina having a conversation all day.
*All the villains trying to retrace their memory of events*
Jamie Fox: Lemme tell you sumtin...
🤣
Who else wanted to see Flint Marko’s normal form .. it kind of had me on edge that he was just sand form this whole scene .. we don’t see his human form until he gets cured of his powers in the end .. that bit kind of bugged me but this scene was STILL GOLD .. crazy how it seemed like yesterday we were kids watching the raimi trilogy and then teens watching the Webb duo movies ..
They couldn't get the actor to be present for the scenes so instead He voice acted and They Cigi everything, would've been cool tho
I LOVE this, the slow realisation as they all start to understand
I think it would've been interesting if this happened when Norman was introduced to Ned and MJ...
MJ: Is your MJ's last name Watson?
Norman: Yes, actually.
Ned: Do you have a Ned Leeds on your world?
Norman: Not that I know of.
Ned: Well, who's your Peter's best friend?
Norman: My son. Harry.
Ned: Huh.
Norman: Peter, are you and MJ together by any chance?
Peter: Yeah. Why?
MJ: Are we not a couple in your universe?
Norman: No. Peter just has a crush on her. My son is actually MJ's boyfriend. That unfortunately is causing some conflict with him and Peter.
(MJ stares at Ned having a curious face).
Ned: I swear I do not have a crush on you.
A little later.
MJ: (looks at Doc Ock and Sandman). I know you two are from the same universe as Osborn
Dock Ock: Yes?
Sandman: Something we can do for you?
MJ: Your MJ Watson. Is she still dating Gobby's son?
Doc Ock: No they broke up. She did eventually get engaged to J. Jonah Jameson's son.
MJ: What the fuck is with that universe's version of me's taste in men?
Sandman: She ended up leaving the guy for Peter after realizing he was Spider-man. See, she thought Peter was standing her up for less plausible reasons.
MJ: Ah. (turns to Peter) Bet NOW you're glad I found out.
Sandman: And as for Harry, he's dead.
Norman: What?! Oh no! What happened?!
Sandman: He was pissed about you dying. So he got modified versions of the stuff that made you the Green Goblin and tried to kill him.
Doc Ock: So he was still knawing on that bone.
Sandman: Yes, until he realized Spider-man didn't kill him on purpose. Anyway, I was working with a monster named Venom.
Ned Leed: What lab accident made HIM?
Sandman: He's an alien symbi- symbio
Peter: Symbiote?
Sandman: Thank you. He's an alien symbiote that got Spider-man's powers from bonding with him. Then when Spider-man got rid of the symbiote, it merged with an angry reporter who hated Spider-man named Eddie Brock, giving him Spider-man's powers.
Norman: I'm guessing Harry tried to help Spider-man fight you and this Venom guy?
Sandman: Yeah, then he died saving Spider-man from when Venom tried to use his glider to kill him. Spider-man used one of the pumpkin bombs to blow up the symbiote when he separated Brock from it, but Brock also died when he tried to remove the bomb.
Norman: Good.
Ned: Why did Spider-man give up the symbiote anyway?
Sandman: It turned him into an aggressive, selfish, jerk.
Peter: Well as far as reasons for destroying aliens go, it's not bad.
Sandman: Oh yeah. I even heard that he hit MJ.
Everyone was shocked at that.
Peter: Other me did what now?
Ned: Is that why-
Sandman: Yeah, that's probably why my Peter got rid of the suit.
MJ: (decided to changed the subject, turned to Lizard and Electro) Is there anyone like me or Ned on your world.
Lizard: Not that I recall ever meeting but there is a Norman and Harry Osborn in my world. And Spider-man was dating a rather lovely girl named Gwen Stacy.
Ned: (turns to Peter) Dude, you're ladies man in every universe.
Peter: If you call hitting my girlfriend under the influence of aliens 'a ladies man.'
Electro: I don't know about hitting. But I think during my final moments while absorbing data and dying, I heard a neck snapping and you crying.
Peter:...That's even worse!
Electro: Oh yeah. And as for the Osborns, Norman died of a sickness Conners was trying to help cure. And when Harry got that same illness and lost Oscorp, he enlisted my help. He got himself some spider venom hoping to get your healing factor, but it only made him worse. Then he got a suit and glider. (thinks) In fact, it's possible that after you killed my ass, he whacked Stacy.
@@jonathansayah9506 I actually wish Norman found out that Harry died sacrificing himself to save Tobey’s Peter. This would probably anger his Goblin personality even more to kill Tobey’s Peter. Besides the stuff that’s going on in real life with James Franco, it would’ve been cool to see him in this movie helping out. Imagine him and Norman fighting. The Goblin personality would feel betrayed that Harry won’t kill either version of Peter. Goblin can even shout “Avenge me!” like in Spider-Man 2 and then Harry will shout “NO!” and then they both fight. When Norman is cured, they would have a touching moment.
@@ryanstauffer119 That actually would've been pretty good.
@@ryanstauffer119 A touching moment that they never had but crave in the first movie.
@fee foo I am not the one to start this thread. And anyway, I like to think they had a similar conversation offscreen.
2:00
Lizard: “do I die?”
Me: “are you kidding? You’re the only one who lives happily ever after!”
Technically both Sandman and Lizard survive. Every other villain winds up dying.
Sandman: impaled by the glider, it was all over the news
Harry Osborn: I’m gonna pretend I didn’t see that
1:02
Funny thing is; Thomas Haden Church never made it to filming, they used a body double (in which I assume had the same build as Flint Marko from Spider-Man 3) and used high CGI to make it look like Flint Marko/Sandman and they also said they had his voice in their possession too. Rhys Ifans (Dr. Connors/The Lizard) never made to the studio either so they applied the same as they did for Thomas, so the only villains that made it were Williem Dafoe, Alfred Molina and Jamie Foxx.
We know that bro 🙄
Even though they aren't in the movie am still happy to see the sinister not only 3 the 3 is like boring 👊👊👊
0:03 I love this for one reason. He was only referred to as "Doctor" ONCE in the triology....when General Slocum addressed him when he was going to tell him he was about to cut Oscorp's funding. "Doctor Osborn.....I'm gonna be frank with you, I never supported your program"
1:42 The hidden Wesley Willis reference.
They Should’ve add flashbacks
U can edit thou 🤣
Because of the stupid copyrights block them
That would have been more epic
@@jeffreywilliams8499 how if they’re using the characters?
@@jeffreywilliams8499 That’s not really true. While Marvel Studios is using Tom’s Spider-Man for the MCU, their Spider-Man movies is in collaboration with Sony and Columbia who also did the Raimi and Webb films. Since those companies were worked on this film, there would be no copyright issue. If there were, this film wouldn’t have featured any of the same characters from the Raimi and Webb films, including the same music score. So if they wanted to, they could’ve added flashbacks.
0:08 makes me think, if they ever introduce Mary Jane into the MCU, would Peter remember when Norman called Michelle Mary Jane?
For some reason lizard asking "Do I die?" was really cute
I watched Tobey's spiderman multiple times as a child and I only got time now to watch Tom's. Seeing the villains back then gave me chills.
Toby Maguire and Andrews Garfield Spiderman movie villains
Green Goblin, Spiderman 1
Dr Octopus, Spiderman 2
The Sandman, Spiderman 3
The Lizard, The Amazing Spiderman
Electro, The Amazing Spiderman 2
Yeah but Except for rhino I think he’s gonna be recast for the MCU instead of Paul Giamatti
@@christianmorgan7366
holy shit Rhino was corny 😂
@@christianmorgan7366 wait Rhino will be in the MCU?
@@Deathmare235 Well not with Paul but Andrey Ivchenko Is a Rhino for the MCU
Whenever I think about this movie I am just always stunned as to how it worked. Like the script for this movie is so batshit and wacky yet they make it so emotional, cathartic and amazing. Jon Watts is a genius, he has to be doing secret wars.
Loved seeing everyone here after 20 years of this franchise
The culmination of the lore from 2 movie series
Everyone’s trying to play catch up
0:04 since when??!! He was Mr. Osborn in the first movies🤣🤣🤣
When he said “… fascinating” I got so giddy lol. Norman’s still a genius scientist and can’t help but geek out about being in another universe. Same with Andrew later in the film. “I knew it!”
Lol yea that shit was funny the way he said that, especially if you kno the history lol
This scene is definitely one of my favorite scenes in this movie. I just love how all the villains interact with each other
It was pretty cool to see Raimi’s Norman, Otto, and Flint interact.
1:15 My Machine
This is how I imagine a Batman version of this:
Ra's al Ghul from the Christian Bale movies is in the Wayne manor in Robert Pattinson's Batman's universe in front of the cells of the Joker from the Christian Bale movies, Bane from the Christian Bale movies, Two Face from the Michael Keaton/Val Kilmer/George Clooney movies and Catwoman from the Michael Keaton/Val Kilmer/George Clooney movies
Ra's al Ghul: Bane?
Bane: Ducard?
Ra's al Ghul: What happened to you?
Bane: What happened to…? You're the walking corpse here
Ra's al Ghul: What are you talking about?
Bane: You died Henri. 8 years ago
Ra's al Ghul: You're crazy
Two Face: I love this place
Batman: What are you talking about? He's right in front of you. He's not…
Joker: Dead. Hahaha! They both died. Fighting Batman. It was all over the news. Ra's al Ghul: killed in a train crush. 8 years later you Bane you were shot to death by Selina Kyle's motorcycle. Hahaha!
Bane: nonsense! I was about to kill Batman. I had him on the floor. I was pointing a shotgun at him and then… and then I was here
Two Face: oh please! Let me tell you something! I was going to decide whether to kill or spare Batman. He'll tell you. I threw a coin to decide Batman's fate but he threw lots of coins, I lost my balance, I fell off the building and then… and then… oh damn it! I was about to die
Catwoman: Harvey do you know if I died?
This is all I have for now. I don't know how to continue the story
The last one should have been Scarecrow thou
@@RafuStudio I apologize. Those are the best villains I could think about. I'll probably rewatch the Michael Keaton/Val Kilmer/George Clooney movies since I don't remember almost anything about them
That Does Sounds For Real Bro
I would've left out the Joker from the Dark Knight trilogy and replace him with the Joker from the Burton/Schumacher films in that scenario. I also would've included Penguin and Riddler in that scene but the other villains you mentioned can stay.
@@loudboy317 based on your scenario there would be around 7 villains
Joker (Michael Keaton/Val Kilmer/George Clooney)
Penguin (Michael Keaton/Val Kilmer/George Clooney)
Catwoman (Michael Keaton/Val Kilmer/George Clooney)
Two Face (Michael Keaton/Val Kilmer/George Clooney)
Riddler (Michael Keaton/Val Kilmer/George Clooney)
Ra's al Ghul (Christian Bale)
Bane (Christian Bale)
0:27 I was hoping Doc Ock would give a much better reaction, I mean this was a "Dead Friend." But, if I had to guess, the tentacles were too busy giving the "error" message in Doc Ock's head, which hindered some "emotional reunion" function.
If I were to guess, back then Doc would've felt the same as anyone else about the green goblin and now to find out it was your friend all along who had killed and hurt people to get his way.
Later: "Says the reckless fool who turned himself into a monster!" Hypocritical but true.
Sandman and Lizard are the only non-MCU live-action Spider-Man villians not to have died. As Lizard/Curt Connors was cured by The Amazing Spider-Man in The Amazing Spider-Man (2012) and Spider-Man/Peter Parker choose to spare Sandman/Flint Marko and not kill or arrest him in Spider-Man 3 (2007).
This was one of my favorite parts of the movie man
Same here
Yeah
Lizard and Sandman didn’t die tho
Exactly.
Exactly
But they don't know that.
Yeah, I was wondering why they didn’t just confirm that. I mean, I get that Max didn’t get to answer Lizard asking if he died because Strange interrupted the conversation, but Max could’ve said when Peter came back that Lizard didn’t die. He could’ve said how Connors was cured and then arrested for not just trying to turn everyone into lizards, but also for killing Captain Stacy. Andrew’s Peter could’ve even mentioned what happened to Connors after he cured him when they were at the school. Tobey’s Peter could’ve even mentioned how he didn’t kill Marko and they both ended on good terms.
@@ryanstauffer119 Agreed.
Lmao Lizard with a british accent is hilarious asf. 😂😂
The beeps over Electro swearing always makes me laugh, it's just perfectly timed and I can't help it. XD
Otto thought Osborn is dead but unfortunately he's not
I kinda thought if they knew each other. My thought if they made spider man 4. Dr. Connors as the lizard would made appearence in no way home really surprise on seeing both Osborn and Octavius.
Much respect for Sandman and The Lizard for being the only villains that didn't die
I never considered sandman as villain tbh
If I went into NWH having not seen the Raimi films I would've assumed that these Ock/Osborn had a whole movie or two together because that's how instant their chemistry is
0:29 you can also hear a snippet of the Green Goblin theme
No wonder Sam Raimi felt honored after watching this
Seeing the look on their faces learning about their deaths, was unsettling. Like if they get invincible during their battles only to then realize they were about to die.
1:43 💀😂
Doc Oc and Sandman both have arguments that they aren’t evil at all. Sandman is influenced mainly by helping his daughter and Doc Oc is brainwashed by the tentacles
The same for all actually
It was great to finally see Osborn and Octavius actually interact with each other, not counting the behind the scenes blooper from Spiderman 2, where Willem Dafoe was wearing the arms, and performing Alfred Molinas lines.
I loved how all his previous villains finally meet each other.
So many great moments but one small thing that hits, when the Lizard/Dr. Connors says "Max...do you know...do I die?"
Thanos- “and that is destiny fulfilled.”
heres an idea, the villans get zapped to this universe as soon as they find out who he is. this for some of them allowing the cure they got to actually help them. however. doc oc is still doomed to die because of how he found out. he found out moments before his death making him unable to live a live free of the voices. instead having to make amends for what he has done by taking his life.
He went back still holding the arc reactor so there is a chance he could stabilize the machine with that.
I like to believe this was during the moment that he had peter by the throat and seemed to suddenly go from bent on continuing his project to helping save the city.
This gives me the chills when my childhood villains talk especially Flint Marko
Dead:
Green Goblin: Impaled by the glider he flew around on.
Doc Ock: Drowned in the Hudson river with his machine.
Electro: exploded after an energy overload.
Alive:
Sandman: escaped as a fugitive after the final battle with Venom.
Lizard: Cured with the antidote made by Gwen and then incarcelated.
I like the way this scene was written, you didn't necessarily have to watch the Raimi Trilogy or the Webb Duology to feel the intensity of the scene
Sandman: they both died, they both died by fighting Spider-Man
Sandman: it was all over the news, Green Goblin impaled by the glider you flew around on and a couple years later you Doc Ock drowned in the river with your machine
Doc Ock: that’s nonsense, Spider-Man was trying to stop my fusion reactor so I stopped him, I had him by the throat and then I …. And then I was here
Electro: oh please let me tell you something I was whooping Spider-Man’s a*s he’ll tell you and then he caused an overload I was stuck in the grid absorbing data I was about to turn into pure energy and then I … oh sh*t I was about to die
Lizard: Max do you know do I die?
Electro: no not really Connors because after Spider-Man stopped you from turning the whole city into lizards he turned you back into your human form and then you were sent to prison
Electro - Not just for nearly turning everyone into lizards, but because you killed the captain of the police department
Lizard doesnt die.
Jesus Christ I still cannot get over that horrendous CGI for the lizard
What made this even more better is that we're seeing Norman and Otto talk for the first time on screen because in the trilogy they didn't talk at all
Worthy to note that what tom holland’s Spider-Man did could result in the timelines of the Andrew Garfield and tobey maguire universe being changed
Like green goblin would return to when he left and would either die or would survive, both being altered
And doctor octopus would return to his time and- well that might not change who knows
And the list goes on
This is too good
I swear, at 1:55 I know it’s bleeping out “oh shit” but it feels like it’s bleeping out a “fuck” or “oh fuck” . Maybe just me.
When I saw this scene, I knew it had to make sense that norman and otto knew each other because of how harry and otto were working together before Otto became doc ock
You know what's terrifying, green goblin is taking note of everyone that is close to Peter.
Connors will never know if he was meant to die
It's really cool tho because in the sam Rami movies we get mentions that Norman and Otto know each other but we don't see that, but here we get to see Otto and Norman share the scene together and it's amazing seeing them and the villains all together
This movie is just awesome, having every universe intersect, it just makes a fan who has seen every single one of these movies feel like a child again. It is going to be a long time before a movie will have this hype again.
I’m surprised that Electro didn’t tell Lizard that he got cured and later sent to jail.
Sandman would be like ‘ What?
Goblin would be like ‘ You gotta be kidding me!
Doc Ock would like’ Lucky Bastard!
I think that Green Goblin was brought to this universe some time after meeting MJ for the first time while also figuring out his Spider-Man’s identity
Norman found out tobey was Spider-Man after the thanksgiving scene so it had to be some time after that
I miss the harry osborn (new goblin) damn, would be so perfect if he returned...
This scene was so cool. I found it funny when Lizard was like “Max. Do I die?” 😂
Thank you. I thought the whole just kill them off was a sad thing. Except Vemon and Mysterio they weren’t tragic villains.
Not all of them ask to have evil powers, I know the main arc word are : with great power comes great responsibility but the dark side of is also : with great power comes great insanity if its not use responsible.
To be frank, if I was placed in this situation and even if I know that each of the villains died if I send them back home…I would have been gung go about sending them back
Plus let me add that I may have Spider-Man powers but I’m not a genius in creating cures for all them
"With great power comes great insanity.
A quote that effectively summarizes all the Supes in *The Boys* series.
Venom was kinda tragic not Brock though
@@Deathmare235 how vemon tragic? It tries to corrupt Peter. There was a Deleted scene that eddie was consume by vemon literally all there was left was his skeleton bones.
@@angiereyes7856 he wasn’t corrupting him he just has a twisted way of bonding with people and it wasn’t that bad in the movies it was more like Peter stopped repressing his anger rather than being evil
Ya know, when Otto first appeared on screen on the bridge, I wondered why he wasn't good because Peter told him to fight the arms. But then after seeing this I realized he was pulled in before that
Electro: I was whooping spider-man's a**. 🤣🤣
I like how Dr. Connors asks Electro if he died or not with that curious smile on his face.
Really enjoyed that they gave Jamie Foxx more lines in this movie
I'd have loved to have seen Dane DeHaan's Goblin in this too. Taking on the role of Defoe's Goblins 'true son' ans watching them fight their respective spiderman 2 on 2, that would have been insane.
It's a real shame Big Stan didn't live long enough to have seen this.
They should’ve had Norman as the Goblin not harry
@@Deathmare235 Maybe so, but that's not what this comment was talking about.
@@pablomenendez2319 DeHaan should’ve never been the Goblin
I think Green Goblin would have been very proud and amused about that version of his son.
@@Deathmare235 his goblin wasn’t that bad and His design and glider was also about 100x better than James Franco’s harry
Great dialogue
I think Sandman found out about Green Goblin and Doctor Octopus' deaths sometime after Spider-Man 3. Their deaths didn't seem to be made public in Tobey's movies. Sandman never said where or when he found out about their deaths