it was revealed that the police didnt order the murder of Lang, … to me this was the only plot i couldnt confirm but was Caprice the one who organized the murderes through the two ‘tech agents’? she seemed a little jealous of Tensers operation done wit the zipper which would explain why she would hire the agents to kill the surgeon Natasir on the chair, and she appeared reluctant to admit tht the child was special or smth as it would make tensers less special in their society n tht would motivate her to get Lang killed, plus we know she was very friendly n bonding with the agents in the Sark scene where they all get naked n flirt each other..: is this how everyone else interpreted?
Cronenberg movies are always a treat for me. I enjoy all of them for their own meaning and artistic merit. Your point about this movie being somewhat autobiographic in a way to Cronenberg is a really great point and it makes a lot sense to the catharsis of the movie, even being relevant to current day direction of humans with technology and biology, humans innate perpencity for violence, pain and living in suffering - all these factors tying in that have been present in mankind since ancient times. The abstract elements are appropriate since in the real world a lot of things cannot be explained and understood, it just is. Hope my interpretation wasn't too weird, I used to talk about these topics with my older brother which I lost a year ago to cancer. He would have loved this movie.
Your interpretation is not weird at all! "..a lot of things cannot be explained and understood, it just is. " This point reminds me of how Villeneuve approached his Dune film. He just showed the world of the story and didn't bother giving exposition. Stay strong, man. If you wanna talk films with someone I'm active in the comments from time to time!
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Thanks for explaining this movie to me. I’m kind of upset that I didn’t understand what was going on after I finished watching it. I think for puzzle movies like this I’ll try to make some footnotes along the way. That usually helps me. Do you think this movie touches upon the human inclination to greater and greater degrees of hedonism until things become grotesque and unrecognizable? I was thinking back to the lady with facial scars, how they fetishize the act of mutilation, possibly even the idea of further evolution. I’m trying to be cautious here because again I missed out on a lot of major plot points lol. So I guess they’re for evolution, and even if it’s kind of gross weird and fetishized, there’s an element of morality and humanity in the decisions that viggo and Lea made towards the end? That as long as there is a flicker of humanity within it can kind of be a guiding compass to do what is deemed “right”. Why is embracing evolution in this movie more important than the anti evolution propaganda by the government? Maybe that’s the whole point then, it’s that pressure from the government that creates that perception in the mind that our natural evolution is deemed too taboo, creating the pressure to eliminate her own child. Maybe cronenberg wants to give us a vision of what happens when there is an imbalance of control esponsibility in our lives when dealing with grey area topics with the potential for evil deeds vs good deeds, at least by our own standards and to an extent social standards as well. I think the movie you’re talking about with Julianne Moore was also great. It’s called existenz. Do you think that one was a commentary about the progression of human technological advances? Or do you think it was just a cool story wrapped in a larger conspiracy? Maybe a bit of both eh? Anyhow I hope you’re doing well.L, thanks for the review
Love your analysis. "Maybe Cronenberg wants to give us a vision of what happens when there is an imbalance of control esponsibility in our lives when dealing with grey area topics with the potential for evil deeds vs good deeds, at least by our own standards and to an extent social standards as well." I especially like how you said it in this statement. When I first saw the movie, I viewed the ending as a dud. Next time I watch the movie I'll keep this in mind. "Do you think that one was a commentary about the progression of human technological advances?" I think so. Cronenberg uses his universes to highlight issues in our society. I like how the movie explores the dangers of humans messing with natural law. Sorry for the late reply but thanks for tuning in Tim. If you enjoyed this video, please consider subbing to the channel for more reviews like these. Cheers!
it was revealed that the police didnt order the murder of Lang, …
to me this was the only plot i couldnt confirm but was Caprice the one who organized the murderes through the two ‘tech agents’?
she seemed a little jealous of Tensers operation done wit the zipper which would explain why she would hire the agents to kill the surgeon Natasir on the chair, and she appeared reluctant to admit tht the child was special or smth as it would make tensers less special in their society n tht would motivate her to get Lang killed, plus we know she was very friendly n bonding with the agents in the Sark scene where they all get naked n flirt each other..:
is this how everyone else interpreted?
Cronenberg movies are always a treat for me. I enjoy all of them for their own meaning and artistic merit. Your point about this movie being somewhat autobiographic in a way to Cronenberg is a really great point and it makes a lot sense to the catharsis of the movie, even being relevant to current day direction of humans with technology and biology, humans innate perpencity for violence, pain and living in suffering - all these factors tying in that have been present in mankind since ancient times. The abstract elements are appropriate since in the real world a lot of things cannot be explained and understood, it just is. Hope my interpretation wasn't too weird, I used to talk about these topics with my older brother which I lost a year ago to cancer. He would have loved this movie.
Your interpretation is not weird at all!
"..a lot of things cannot be explained and understood, it just is. "
This point reminds me of how Villeneuve approached his Dune film. He just showed the world of the story and didn't bother giving exposition.
Stay strong, man. If you wanna talk films with someone I'm active in the comments from time to time!
@@GarageMovieClub thanks for your reply, I appreciate it.
Can't wait to see it. A new quality sci fi is way overdue.
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Thanks for explaining this movie to me.
I’m kind of upset that I didn’t understand what was going on after I finished watching it. I think for puzzle movies like this I’ll try to make some footnotes along the way. That usually helps me.
Do you think this movie touches upon the human inclination to greater and greater degrees of hedonism until things become grotesque and unrecognizable?
I was thinking back to the lady with facial scars, how they fetishize the act of mutilation, possibly even the idea of further evolution. I’m trying to be cautious here because again I missed out on a lot of major plot points lol. So I guess they’re for evolution, and even if it’s kind of gross weird and fetishized, there’s an element of morality and humanity in the decisions that viggo and Lea made towards the end? That as long as there is a flicker of humanity within it can kind of be a guiding compass to do what is deemed “right”. Why is embracing evolution in this movie more important than the anti evolution propaganda by the government? Maybe that’s the whole point then, it’s that pressure from the government that creates that perception in the mind that our natural evolution is deemed too taboo, creating the pressure to eliminate her own child. Maybe cronenberg wants to give us a vision of what happens when there is an imbalance of control
esponsibility in our lives when dealing with grey area topics with the potential for evil deeds vs good deeds, at least by our own standards and to an extent social standards as well.
I think the movie you’re talking about with Julianne Moore was also great. It’s called existenz. Do you think that one was a commentary about the progression of human technological advances? Or do you think it was just a cool story wrapped in a larger conspiracy? Maybe a bit of both eh?
Anyhow I hope you’re doing well.L, thanks for the review
Love your analysis.
"Maybe Cronenberg wants to give us a vision of what happens when there is an imbalance of control
esponsibility in our lives when dealing with grey area topics with the potential for evil deeds vs good deeds, at least by our own standards and to an extent social standards as well."
I especially like how you said it in this statement. When I first saw the movie, I viewed the ending as a dud. Next time I watch the movie I'll keep this in mind.
"Do you think that one was a commentary about the progression of human technological advances?"
I think so. Cronenberg uses his universes to highlight issues in our society. I like how the movie explores the dangers of humans messing with natural law.
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Thanks for sharing! Interesting view
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