Tesla Model S PLAID Owner's Review: Things I Love and Hate!
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- čas přidán 19. 12. 2022
- There are things I love and hate about this car, but ultimately it's my favorite daily diver after 30,000 miles.
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Yeah, I can't imagine a world where I will ever prefer capacitive touch controls over physical buttons. As much as I'm into tech, I want as many analog feelings and controls as possible in my car.
Amen to that
Yea specially when it’s something that will be used very frequently. I would pass on those things alone
Touch screens are the work of the devil!
So back to phones with buttons ?
@@cicnos13
? I specifically said cars. Phones got rid of buttons to maximize screen size since space is so limited. Whereas almost all customer surveys and real world experience shows ppl in general hate haptic touch controls in cars. Or even worse, basic functions like heat and A/C being trapped inside menus that take multiple inputs to reach. Also physical buttons can be located without looking away from the road while driving, making haptic buttons more hazardous overall.
Removing the stalks felt like a solution to a non-existent problem.
Like removing the headphone jack.
i dont think its a solution but rather its a new problem
Wasn't made for the end user. It was done to lower the cost to manufacturer.
Until the car drives itself. Then why the fuck do I need buttons? Same thing happened when business users freaked out about moving to iOS from Blackberry.
No physical buttons/stalks means it can be updated via software in the future. Physical parts are cast in stone will always be same functionality. Steve Jobs first popularized this idea.
I love how you say it like it is. As a tech expert, you're not afraid to say things like "the AC controls look really cool and fun to play with (in a demo), but it's awful to use while actually driving"
Hahahahaha 18:10 love how you blurred the speedometer, we know you’re flyin in that thing looking at the freeway barriers on your side!
buddy really doesn't want incriminating evidence of him speeding.
Interesting to hear from real owners.
Wersienshershirenshair sauce
Exactly. Most people bitching about EVs have never even been inside one.
That's the thing about new car and tech reviews. You really don't get to hear the bad unless it's glaringly obvious, nor do you get some of the intricacies of how things work. It would be nice to get more long term updates in the tech world. It is a bit more common with cars but there's very few I've seen on Teslas. I especially want to see long term tests on electric cars from people who aren't in the tech world, as in regular car reviewers. I think that would convert many that didn't care for electric cars to start.
You mean „real owners“?
+ not a fanboy
Regarding the range discrepancy you're seeing, I noticed your Instrument Cluster shows the 19" Tempest Wheels, which is a 396 Mile EPA Rated Range for the Plaid, but your current car has the 21" Arachnid Wheels equipped. Tesla advertises those with a 348 Mile EPA Rated Range. You can change your car’s configuration to match your actual wheel setup under Settings > Wheel and Tire Settings > 21" Arachnid Wheels. This will update your car’s wheels on the instrument cluster and phone app as well. If you’re getting > 348 miles, you’re beating EPA rated range!
Also, if you have factory 21’s, you have Summer Tires. You don’t want to use those under 40 degrees. You’ll want to switch out for an All Season or Winter tire. Running summer tires below 40 degrees can cause compound cracking, and they’re significantly worse in ice / snow.
Somebody’s paying attention! A+
If that degradation is accurate, then it is pretty remarkable. Especially given superchargers are often used to charge that thing as Marcques alluded to in the video.
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Elon?
I cant believe how many noob mistakes r in his video. Makes me question how good is he with tech really.
Just found your channel this Christmas, and I really enjoy it. Very good, honest and typical owners perspective review on cars. Keep going!
This is the best review I've seen. Gives me the confidence to make the purchase for Model S long range. Thanks for doing it.
Great review, Marques. I appreciate the distinction you articulated. Automotive youtubers review the looks, the hype, the drive quality. That's one thing. But owning it is a completely different proposition - which is where owner reviews are so helpful.
Thanks for creating content that added value
With the car having lots of software it’s almost like a natural progression. Tech reviews require more time with the product, or at least updated reviews of a product as software changes.
The funniest part is that buttons to adjust the fan controls just got added back today after they were replaced with the slider last Christmas. I would still love a physical button to control the fan speed even though I can control it by voice (sometimes other people in the car are talking). And the main reason for me to not use auto mode is because the car blows heat right at your face and you can't override it (I prefer legs only for heat). They also added Steam (S and X only) with the recent upgrade, so you can now possibly play those other games you mentioned.
Hm... Maybe my comment got deleted... I got the enhance s3xy buttons from enhauto for that. They also have quite a few other options for driver and passengers.
Only S and X newer than ~February 2022 can use Steam without a hardware upgrade (~$2k, according to president of Tesla Motors Club Michigan), so that would rule out Marques' car
lol yea the holiday update kinda fire
@@Muskar2 he def would have the hardware upgrade
Also Apple Music is added.
Marques! Thank you for putting so much efffort into this.. Totally agree with the 360 camera omission. Had a test drive in a Model X last week and was astonished that something so fundamental was not present. Here in Europe towns have small streets, narrow traffic lanes, and totally miniscule car parking spaces given the size of modern cars. This is a basic must-have (especially for the front corners and wheel arch area) despite the seeming effectiveness of the proximity sensors, especially in a car as large as the Model X.
I am an Ubermensch and have superior spatial awareness, I drive an Astra H gtc that has terrible visibility and never once dinged it, hit a curb or failed to park.
@@victorpapillon1487 k
On the screen it will tell you when you are getting close and where it is. There is a white line. Even if it doesn't show the view through a camera, it shows you anything and everything you need to know.
You did a phenomenal job of answering all questions. Great comprehensive review of Tesla S Plaid
I have been shocked that other cars have not adopted Sentry mode and built in dashcam. It's crazy that so many cars have so many cameras, but they are virtually useless to the end user so much of the time.
It's also crazy that Teslas have all these cameras and have yet to add a 360 degree view...
Yup, there have been several instances where the car cameras have caught burglars to your home or even people being assaulted so if you have an open garage it can be an additional security camera. There have been cases where the criminal parks his car within view of the camera and the license plate can be seen later.
@@Eric-zk2hu You might not like hearing this, but I don't want my car to be doing police work for others. We could end up having police turn up with warrants to look through footage of our car or even just watch it without consent if Tesla uploads it to their servers (similar to Amazon's security cams).
The rate at which we're losing our rights to privacy is worrying. Unless I know that the data is stored locally and password encrypted, and it is legally established that police can only get the data voluntarily out of me, this is bound to become a problem once these vehicles become more common and the police recognises this convenience.
Legacy carmakers have so many silod components, component designers/manufacturers and kind of have to go back to the drawing board to be able to integrate some or add certain types of functionality like this. Certainly in theory a very simple addition but in practice, unless you start over from scratch on all your A/V/tech for legacy car manufacturers it is much more complex than it was for Tesla.
@@pickyconsumer5126 it's not like manufacturers don't talk to those s/w people once they install on the car right. First 3 years each manufacturer pushes some updates via OTA or by the technician at the dealership.
The phone as a key works so much better than I ever expected. I use it to heat the car and just leave the app open when I'm going to use the car and it's immediate to respond. The charger pad is the perfect design but I do think if phones get much bigger they won't fit(Model 3).
My wife loves to use the voice commands for the frunk and trunk and I don't think she's ever used the UI buttons if she's in the car. That works really well too.
Question: What happens when your phone is out of charge, how would you open your car?
@@89humaiz you still have your key card or at least you’re supposed to.
@@89humaiz Marquess said in the video that you also have a key card or a fob, so you would probably just use one of those.
@@MichaelOrtega ah cool. Didn't catch that. So if the card is in the wallet, then it would be easy.
@@89humaiz you can also have someone like your spouse open it remotely and give you access to drive. That is if you can contact them without your phone.
Marques, thanks for the review. Spot on and agree with all of your points. I appreciate you bringing up the elements not delivered to date. Steam for the 2021, 200 mph, FSD, etc. Not sure why Tesla is perpetually in this "over promise, under deliver" mentality. If they never mentioned some of these things we would never care, like advanced gaming, but they instead under deliver when they could be "unknown" updates and create a fantastic owner experience. I still love the car and love the satin black wrap with camo touches.
Appreciate the owner's perspective as that is more valuable to potential new buyers about what the short/long term experience(s) will be like.
Put in a service ticket, they will replace your yoke with the latest revision of it. They can even do it mobile service. The yoke has gone through a half dozen or so revisions since the original release and they fixed lots of small quirks/issues like the one you posted.
That is true.
I really appreciate this long form and also long term after the fact review. It's cool and all to get the latest and greatest review of some new gadget but rarely do we get a review of what happens after the fanfare has worn off and have actually lived with the product for a prolonged period of time. Not to mention actual ownership of it.
Thanks dude! 🙂
As a stock holder and pre-orderer of a cybertruck, as well as a twitterverse hellscape survivor, I completely agree.
@@PrimRoseLane i wonder if the cybertruck will become "duke nukem whenever"....
that part!
@@kyoko703 I have no problem buying the DeLorean of Pickemup Trucks.
@@PrimRoseLane The real question is when will the cybertruck be released...
Excellent review, speaking heart out is very hard to find out now a days on our own choices. Very refreshing
This is why I like you man...you're honest and to the point as opposed to trying to defend what you own just because you own it. The things you pointed out are why I don't own a Tesla (the fact that it doesn't hold up to other cars in its price range). I appreciate the honest and "real" review.
8-10 percent degradation after 30000 miles and 1 1/2 years of ownership is definitely not normal. You should do a proper battery degradation test.
The degradation is more in first year and less later. Also on his case he needs BMS recalibration.
I agree. My understanding is that trip computer will show range based on driving habits, so this could be a reason.
I wonder if he is taking the wheel size in to play. That does make a big difference in range calculation.
Why are you worried....???
He'll buy another one !!!
Why bother? Batteries on Tesla are structural and cannot be replaced. In about 3-5 years this car will be a useless piece of metal. And that's better than the death trap it is now.
19:05 they’ve already added steam in the latest update 20:00 the hardware update is carbon ceramic beaks. Once Tesla sells them again they will unlock the top speed with software. Some people have unlocked the speed themselves
Some people unlocked three speed limiter and went 216mph in regular plaid, so the car is capable of those speeds, it's just locked at this point in time.
I saw the speed unlocks, but... my still car doesn't do it, and we'll continue waiting (up to 2 years?) for that promise to eventually come true
@@AutoFocus what about your moving car...
in all seriousness, i think this review is excellent, well crafted and unbiased. i only think that if you knew it had the physical capability you could have made it more clear, because i ended the video thinking the car just wasn't powerful enough
Kenn, I think he IS saying the car is not powerful enough…
@@AutoFocus they literally added the steam update with apple music support, and a ton features, some one on CZcams has already unlocked the top speed via a hack , so it's capable but it will have to be enabled via software update
One of the best reviews of ANYTHING done by ANYBODY ever! Well done! Appreciate your thoroughness, candor, and honesty!
Thanks for the great review! Albeit, the cost is more than I paid for my house & vehicle, it's expensive for the average person, but truly would be a hoot to drive! I really like seeing that it has the screen above the steering wheel, over anything with just a centre screen only! Great job!
Really great to see a long-term review on a Plaid like this, haven’t seen much other than first impressions so far
I appreciate that you talked about the yoke.
In concept, if no other things changed, I'm fine with a yoke. It would be weird to use for like a week, but I'd get used to it.
100% in the same boat with the damned capacitive buttons for all your critical features. Turn signals are a SAFETY FEATURE, and need to be reliable. Same with the horn
Wipers and lights? Fine, make them "usually" automatic, one less thing to fiddle with when I need to. What about cases when, like in PA, you have to use headlights in work zones, when it rains, etc?
Let's not forget that "automatic" != "reliable"
I think they missed the point of the yoke by not tightening the ratio down to one turn lock to lock. Like the airplane controls that inspired it, the whole advantage of a yoke is never having to reposition your hands, which can only work if you limit travel to 180° in each direction. It's drive by wire electric steering so it would be trivial to implement with a speed sensitive variable ratio, which would be a lot easier to get used to.
My main issue that I think I would have with the yoke is not being able to just let the wheel auto return to a straight position after turning. For example in any car right now when I take a turn I release pressure on the steering wheel and let it slide through my and and control the speed at which this happens by the amount of clamping pressure I keep on the wheel. You would not be able to do this at all with a yoke since the entire top half of the wheel is gone. I think it would be extremely annoying to always have to lift my hand over each other just to make a turn and is not something I can see myself ever getting used to purely because it's a less efficient way of driving to me.
I’d rather use =/=
@@WestCoastWheelman that’s kinda why they do that in race cars too, you rarely see them turn the wheel past 180 except for maybe the Monaco hairpin for example.
@@WestCoastWheelman I don’t think Tesla has steer by wire yet. I got confused and looked it up just now, I see a bunch of articles speculating Tesla will do that, and one Lexus production car that is going to have it.
I personally think steer by wire is not a good idea, (break by wire too). There should be mechanical backups for safety critical systems.
Are you filming with the iPhone front camera or back camera?
Great video 👍🏼 What’s the range degradation like between 30k miles and 100k miles? That would typically be when I would own a car - like many people I buy secondhand at two to three years old and keep for about five years. How much do the batteries cost to replace? (presumably that would get you back to 100%, or are there other growing inefficiencies?).
For the fan speed try using the "auto" mode and adjust the fan speed with the temperature buttons. Saves you a few clicks to go into the HVAC control screen.
I realize some people like to adjust their air vent direction and fan speed constantly, but I can honestly say that in two years of owning a Model Y, I've set the vents once and I have never used anything other than auto climate mode. It's been absolutely perfect, and I would never go back to traditional vents and manual fan speed control.
Similar to comments above. Also, natural voice commands to adjust HVAC in Tesla are better than most any other car. “a little warmer” “a little cooler” gets it done.
@@jcpizer until you have kids... "A LOT HOTTER!! HEE HEE HEE... this is more fun than kicking the back of your seat!"
that's what I do!
Some cars and I'm guessing tesla is one of them, have a brain dead auto mode that doesn't work well, that's why he has to go and do the fan speed manually
I have a 2022 plaid and I 100% agree with you on the yoke. I’ve gotten used to the shape but I absolutely hate the buttons, especially the turn signals. It doesn’t work well.
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And the horn it shouldn't be a touch
I hate the shape of it too, undriveable in EU.
@@attorneyirl2725 round wheel is a free option now.
@@sdpryce I prefer a round wheel for safety
Thank you for the video, very informative, liked it that you are very honest about all aspects, just ordered a model Y for my wife, so worried about controlling everything through screen while she has to drive , hopefully she likes it, we did test drive but she asked me to drive since it wasnt her car and she was worried , I loved it , it was amazing, hope one day have enough money to get Plaid :) , wish you all the best and looking forward to more videos , thanks!
Absolutely right about the door handles reliability. On my 2014 P85D all 4 door handles have been repaired or replaced at one time or another, some of them repaired more than once. The latest revision 3 handle with magnetic sensors inplace of micro switchs resolved some of the reliability issues. But it’s still a moving part with motor, and gear and also wires that flex so something is still going to break at some point.
And also agree about the cheap build quality, especially the interior. My less than $30K 2013 Leaf has a heated steering wheel and mirror, why is the ~$130K 2014 Tesla does not. Heated steering wheel was not added to Model S not until 2016 and only come with optional cold weather package.
But damn that drive train, battery range, software update and SuperCharger network is what got me to stick with Tesla. Hope as they get more mature on building cars the build quality can match the price they are charging.
the door handles have gone thrugh atleat 3 revamps and the current ones are really reliable. but pre facelift (2016) are the worst when it comes to broken door handles.
I agree totally, it is such a fun car to drive and own. Concerning the fan speeds, I leave mine on auto 100% of the time which works great. Then I only have to adjust temperature usually by one degree. But it is so simple to give a verbal command of temperature 73 and it changes to 73. Also, I also cannot stand the turn signals and the horn “buttons”. Great review.
Ok
Ok buy me one
Cornering not include
the new update finally has buttons to adjust the fan speed ;)
@@Mardoxx7 ok
Got my plaid last December because of you. Have the same likes and dislikes. Still love it more than I thought I would everyday.
I will say, the ability to use wired or wireless headphones for backseat passengers using the screen in the back would be SO nice. Maybe one day!
At least you can adjust audio fade atm, but they should release a software update for bluetooth audio output 😂
I’m surprised you had such high battery degradation. My dad’s founders edition 2012 model S which he has to this day had nearly 450,000km on it, and the battery has only degraded in capacity by 12%. He was a lifetime bmw buyer, and has sworn to only buy Teslas for the rest of his life with how reliable, enjoyable, and beautiful his Tesla is. He said he spent more in 8 monthes on problems with his 2008 M3 than he has in 12 years on his Tesla model S
I love this channel so much. It feels like a friend showing me a car :)
I got curious, so I looked up some of the mentioned things:
-From a quick search, what I found was that a software unlocked model S plaid did break the 200mph speed, and 200 mph was supposed to be a software update, but they never did. Could be due to safety reasons, or to keep their 5 star safety rating. There wasn't much noise around it.
-For the games thing, they said it runs cyberpunk well, but didn't launch it. Now it's done, as they added steam recently, so rejoice, I guess.
Steam is only able to run on the newer models that have the AMD chip. I can't get it on my M3P
Both are things that need further corrections. On Tesla’s website, it continues to say the Model S will go up to 200mph with a future hardware* upgrade. So MKBHD still has the latest info and it hasn’t changed yet. And second, Steam just rolled out for the Model S/X days ago as a holiday update with thousands of games including Cyberpunk. I was surprised this wasn’t in the video.
@@vickykennel7414 becuase its cool, and maybe the germans would appricate it.
@@PlutoisaPlanet It's likely this was recorded before the update.
@@Exilum I’m sure, I know MKBHD is really good being accurate in his reviews. I’ve been watching him for over 10 years
This was a really balanced and authentic review. Thanks for sharing.
I like that you named your new car the same way I did. My first Tesla was Dirty Sanchez, when I replaced it the new one is Dirty Sanchez 2.
I think the issue with the 360-view is that the position of the front camera (not being on the front-end) doesn't allow for the proper angles needed for that seamless view simulation.
gonna be honest. haven’t kept up with ur videos for about a year now. but this video had me hooked and i watched all the way through. might be the laid back raw feel of it. i like these occasional point and shoot perspectives.
I believe service mode will give you a better battery degradation number, the way the range is calculated to 100% is based off a certain number of miles that you drove prior
It would but it’s not available in the FSD build yet.
@@15725867905 I have FSD and I can see it, you just have to make sure you are on the latest update!
It is not, the range in miles is calculated the same for all cars and all weather conditions. ONLY the navigation range is calculated based on weather, driving styles, etc...
@Arush Jain out of spec channel just done a video on this
Thank you so much for taking the time to do this kind of a review. It’s really interesting to see your take on this. I can’t say I love some of the design choices that were made in this car so I don’t think I would be aspiring to make it my daily driver. Guess I’ll stick to the hybrids for now.
Thank you for a great and honest review.
I really hope that Tesla will upgrade the interior quality with time.
Marques, It would be interesting to see what its like to downgrade now to a mainstream car and to see how far they have come. We all know tesla has been ahead of the curve when it comes to self driving, software, etc, but since this is a car channel, it would be awesome to get your reviews on modern average joe cars capabilities. We all know they are reliable, drive well, get good gas mileage, etc etc. But I have had 2 cars as of late that have smartphone integration, the ability to use their apps and so on (One is an accord and one is a camry). I have many thoughts on them that many "car reviewers" don't cover because they talk about the driving, not the liveability of the UX and UI. Thanks for the videos, keep at it.
If you're talking about electric every day cars he literally talked about it in his previous video- that being about the Chevy Bolt EV and how it's a bargain
@@pirmaiscalispagalma1479 no I mean real cars real people can buy. Most EV's are hard to get or expensive. Gasoline will exist for a long time, but software moves forward.
@@singular9 Yeah that would be nice if he covered them but, this being a tech related car channel, he mainly focuses on electric cars
That's the problem I have with "Out of spec reviews" - the reviewer focuses solely on the driving aspect completely ignoring all the other features of the car that you'll be using a lot. If you're looking for a car to drive solely for pleasure, then yeah, it's going to be an adequate review, but if you want to know what the car can do in general, you'll going to miss like 70% of what's there.
My moms 2017 Mercedes’ e300 has self driving, lane changing ability, stop and go, heads up display, can park itself, etc. Sadly most American auto manufacturers are just now getting features like that. They aren’t the best. Maybe ten years idk.
The new software update addresses some of the negatives mentioned: adjusting the vent speed is now just as wished (with plus / minus buttons instead of a slider) and Steam has been integrated with a lots of games like Cyberpunk.
Don't forget Apple Music app.
@@lancetruong4957 I didn't. The lack of Apple Music was not mentioned as a negative in the video and I personally didn't miss it. It rather stick to Spotify as a free speech supportive platform than supporting a free speech restrictive other one.
As a P100d owner considering upgrade, this is Incredibly useful! Thank you.
Happy new year Marques, I hope you get more back seat action this year.
You r just different when you review smthn or give your opinion on a matter. I really find you very informative in way others can’t deliver the point i want same as you.
Stay humble and unique. Mad respect ✊🏼
Great review! Funny that you talk about fan speed control. They did exactly what you wished for with the holiday update. Manual Fan-speed now has two arrows on either side to change the setting. (In my M3 at least)
And they also now let you choose low, medium, or high relative fan speed settings when in Auto mode. So if the only reason you're not using Auto is that the fan is too low or too high, you'll now be happy with Auto mode and won't need to manually adjust fan speed any more.
Great video. My mate has one of the early models and I couldn't believe there wasn't any cup holders in the rear doors
That was an awesome, comprehensive review! Thank you, it really gives a good feel of what it's like to own that car.
I love how you blured out your speed when you got on the free way
For anyone wondering, happens @18:07 right after he hit 55mph 😆
I believe the non-powered frunk hood is a safety feature. That way if somehow the latch were to disengage while driving it wouldn't fly up and blind the driver in motion.
This was a very good and very fair review, keep up the good work!
I love that they fixed a few of your software gripes in the holiday update. You are a superstar!
HI MKB. I’m a big fan. I purchased a red plaid s this April. The yoke buttons work now. The Xmas update includes steam and Apple Music. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I agree also the heat pump works well I’m in Calgary at -20F and still ok. About 25% less range when below 10F
I love my 3LR, I’d love a S Plaid 🤍
Glad that you provided this more user in-dept review of your experience and glad that you are happy with your purchase. Personally, I would never drive a Tesla product due to fit n finish issues, reliability and my personal inability to patiently wait for charge. Heck, when I have to lay on my horn in a pinch, I better be able to find it! lol
My Lexus is not currently an EV but when I get dressed in the mornings, I put my key in my pocket and forget about it. I can do everything related to the operation of the car. Even the idea that I have to go fidget with my phone to operate my car would be frustrating for me.
Love the video MKB! You hit a lot of the loves and...issues that I have my Model S. On another note, wondering if you can drop a link to the Adidas jacket you're wearing?
Love this content. I’m a proud 2022 MYLR owner and have a satin black wrap too. Your black camo accents are 🔥
You can access the fan speed on the steering wheel and the temp.. don’t need to touch the screen!! 12:54
18:08 like the fact he blurred his speed to avoid attention from his cop viewers 😂
first time I have seen one of your videos. I was super impressed. Very helpful and well done.
Enjoyed the review. Good stuff. As a million other people have pointed out, one or two bits have been addressed by Tesla via an update. Would have liked to hear your views on the sound system and ambient noise (did they implement the promised active noise cancellation?).
Great review. Personally, the indicator buttons would be a complete deal breaker if I could afford this car. An indicator is just such a common thing to use, that I’d go nuts if it doesn’t work half the time. Obviously there are a lot of very nice things in this car. But to each their own.
this and the lack of other physical controls would be a complete no go for me. that said, i'm not going to ever be able to afford one 😁
You must not be a BMW driver, bless your heart!
@@PlutoisaPlanet Most people are not.
@@PlutoisaPlanet no. I used to be, but right now I drive a 2019 Audi e-tron after a 6 month stint with a Tesla Model Y, which I loved until it started phantom braking 2-3 times per 20 minutes on highways. It became very dangerous, and Tesla service would only see me 3 months after I reported it. I like some aspects of Teslas a lot. But others are deal breakers. The fact that Tesla does listen to their customers sometimes (see update to last Christmas UI change that buried the climate controls one level deeper and was later reverted back), but obstinately doesn’t at other times (see buttons in steering wheel of Model S and X instead of stalks), is a stubborn streak on dangerous items that will ensure I won’t ever buy one again (unless they change their approach dramatically.
Very succinct, measured and informative review! Much appreciated
I found the capacitive signal buttons work better the less force I use. Just laying my finger on them works best. Auto-Shift from park works 9 out of 10 times too and it's great. Glad for the yoke and no stalks in our 2023 Plaid Model X
nice to see long term ownership reviews
Thoroughly agree with every pro and con you mentioned. I hope they remove the capacitive touch buttons on the next iteration of the car. What concerns me the most trying to hit the horn in an accident-prevention situation.
Thanks, really helpfull. Driving a M3P and considering adding this to the garage. May I ask two questions: 1. Does the car has a similar alarm when crossing a line on the road, chiming like this is your final hour? (Sometimes even with a turninglight on ?!) 2.does it also treat you like a baby as well by switching off the AP when you haven’t responded promply three times to the ‘hands on the wheel’ call? Thx and keep up the good work. Best from the NL
I think Tesla is so hyper focused on the future that sometimes they forget to look at what's best for the present. It's a strategy that seems to be, in the end, working out for them.
Ya, they seem to do a good job of pushing too far and then pulling back based on customer feedback.
voice control is very helpful and can do a lot (like fan speed oder temperature for example). Btw great video.
Fan speed buttons to adjust one level + or - has just been released in latest update. I was also annoyed by the slider. Glad they updated it!
And a knob to adjust the sound system volume. Muscle memory precludes the need to take your eyes off the road to scroll through menus.
Can confirm that the holiday update has added Steam integration to my Model S and I have been playing Cyberpunk (among other games). 1 thing you'll want to do if you haven't already done so is to get an external SSD to store all those Steam games. at 100gb each they take up a lot of space. Luckily you can pop an SSD HDD into your glove box and format it for steam right from the Arcade screen. For reference I put a new 500gb Samsung T7 SSD in and it gave me 400gb of space for Steam while allocating 64 for TeslaCam. There is also 80gb of internal storage space allocated for Steam ontop of whatever SSD you plug in.
I don't understand why they wasted time on Steam for the infotainment. The car has actual QC issues but Tesla gives you Steam 😂
looks like he is driving a 2021 which means no Steam. A mistake by Tesla for sure.
@@theglowcloud2215 Almost like they have different teams working on different things!
Always good to hear a honest review from u and whether it's a phone review or any kind of car reviews like this. A fan from India🖖
The most trusted tech man in America! I always look forward to your highly informative and entertaining videos.
Nice video! Curious, what are you using as Microphone for this video?
Marques, the idea is to use your climate in auto mode and control the fan speed in-directly using temperature. However, in the Holiday update (which is rolling out now), they have added Lo, Med, Hi fan speeds to the Auto setting, giving you more control. I think you will find that much more convenient.
I drive a 13 year old vehicle that has auto HVAC. Set it and forget it style. I love it and use it exclusively.
However, I want to override it every once in a while. The kids want more air, or it’s a hot summer day and I just got in from working outside, etc.
Sure, that’s a software problem and can be fixed with an OTA update. But there’s always going to be the occasional desire to override the computer.
One correction please. The new range you see after all those miles is not battery degradation rather it tries to show real world range based on your driving habits
I thought the same because 10% degradation should happen around 70-80 k miles. Or even 100 k miles
It also changes depending on weather too. It’s pretty cold out now!
Tesla seems to do the software right, but the hardware kinda suffers. I would also prefer physical buttons significantly more over capacitive buttons. I like the concept of the yoke not blocking the dashboard so you can see things better at a glance, that's muscle memory I'd be fine with learning, but having no physical buttons or options to reach over without looking to change simple things I would imagine being frustrating. Stuff to get used to, I guess. Hopefully other manufacturers can improve their software to be just as nice in some cases!
You get used to it
How old are you ? If you’re over 30 then that’s understand but your time is up, the new generation doesn’t need buttons . You are from a different era than us
@@jmoneyyy2116 nah, try early 20s. You can't feel for a capacitive button while focusing on the road. You'll get used to it, sure, and you're able to do more with buttons that can change, but it's inconvenient to have basic stuff hidden behind menus. Climate control and media controls shouldn't be difficult to access, not to the point where it takes your eyes off the road to change.
@@00SNIVY00 well you must be an unexperienced driver 😂😂😂I’m 21 I can easily do it going 150mph down the freeway lmfaooo it’s definitely a user problem not a company problem
@@jmoneyyy2116 I won't take advice from a reckless driver like yourself lol
When you get in an accident, do get a lawyer to represent you, don't show them your comment though.
my dad has a 2020 model 3 and one of the things we got was "auto" opening hydraulics for the front and rear which Is really just a spring that creates enough force to open it when you open it which is nice, so it will auto open but, like you said it is not powered so you do still have to close it manually.
Love your reviews and have rented teslas so I completely agree on the hvac situation and the electric seats going up and down. I loved the auto park when renting and autopilot was unreal. Though the Autopilot enhanced isn’t good for changing lanes since it doesn’t see cars far ahead.
I have a '22 MYP and use the frunk for leftovers and food that may stink up the interior. Also, the latest update gives you fan speed buttons instead of the slider which is a great update
Just as a heads-up, you can swipe left or right on the climate control number to quickly change it without having to pull up the climate menu or find the exact right spot for the left/right buttons. But yeah, I completely agree with the need for more physical buttons for easy tactile feedback.
Thank you for the honest review. Totally agree! Overall it is the best daily driver. Interior looks great compared to all that boring stuff from BMW or Mercedes!
A cool, honest overview. Seems like there is a promising opportunity for aftermarket car enhancers and tuners in terms of implementing physical controls.
Aftermarket on a 130k car... Damn
Surely, in this day and age [Apple, John Deere, etc..are all going down the same route] and being able to 'tune' would be restricted/forbidden....given that it's software and not mechanical that you are dealing with. (?)
Admittedly 'mapping' is software tuning.
Don't hate....the noob(me).
Unfotunately, interfering with the car this way would probably void the warranty, but in Teslas case it might be even worse, since the car can be banned from the supercharger network or something.
Tesla will kill you if you put aftermarket parts into their cars, they act like Ferrari, even when you buy the car they think they still own it.
heck from what I heard about Tesla actively detuning cars unless you pay, I have no doubt aftermarket or software tampering would void the warranty.
very fair and balanced review. I have a 2019 standard plus M3, and build quality and a/c controls are my 2 biggest gripes. but taken as a whole, it is still the best car I've ever owned. Also steam/cyberpunk is now available but only to select newer builds of S and X. I'm guessing it could be retrofitted to older models. one less promise unkept.
iirc, Steam will require 16GB Ram, which none of the refresh S/X have at this point, so that will require a hardware upgrade, hopefully for free from Tesla.
@@chingwodapigu Unfortunately, it's not for free, they are charging for the upgrade.
I have a 2020 Model 3 LR and my only negative is lack of air shocks. There are some old parking garages in the city that are steep and a few times I have heard the bottom scraping plastic when I drive in or out. With air shocks I could lift the car up before entering and exiting. The Model S is too long for most parkings here in Barcelona and the Model 3 just barely fits.
That’s a lot of gas
@@chingwodapigu The ones built from February/March 2022 onwards have it already.
13:39 you can assign fan speed control (or anything you want really) to the left scroll wheel so you don’t need to look at the screen 👌🏼
Excellent review and very informative!
Most honest and best Tesla review I’ve seen on CZcams. Thank you, Marques!
Amazing that such a small thing, physical blinker/fan controls, is a deal breaker for me with what would otherwise be my dream car.
Nice review. As a 2022 Plaid owner I have a lot of the same opinions. I too actually like the yoke and wouldn’t even select a normal wheel though it’s now an option. But I absolutely hate the buttons esp the turn signals and the horn which is ridiculously hard to use. The auto park feature is very flaky and rarely works and sometimes the console has connectivity issues. Driving it though is a pure rush and truly exhilarating though it is MASSIVELY underbraked. I wish the brake package was cheaper because you cannot help but drive spiritedly in this car.
Mh. P
"I love the Yoke, yes it's less practical, less ergonomic and requires more effort to use... but it lets me see the display screen clearer"
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We're so not on the same page when it comes to priorities there.
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Totally agree with the HVAC system points while driving. But I have found that the voice recognitions my Model 3 LR are very good in understanding my words. So I've now switched to use voice commands to change the HVAC system (temp & fan speed). You can almost use natural language to issue the change. I am mostly alone in my car, so using voice commands is not an issue for me.
Thanks for this awesome review no matter what people say. I love the minimalistic design. Just less problems for things to break. Yes they can fix some things but I think Teslas are great cars and fun to drive no matter what I love your spec on your car. 💪🏾😎
As for AC/Heat/Defrost controls... I use voice commands!! Works REALLY well! "Set passenger temperature 'X'." "Set fan speed to 'X'." et al.
Nice review... After test driving 2023 S (no plaid test drive), I fully agree with you on turn signal capacitive buttons (and horn, etc..), just ordered an S Plaid but with ROUND steering wheel... Because, while I can see you have *learned* to use something no one should have to as we all know how to use round steering wheels, in some of your footage 18:02 you are driving dangerously to do so (keeping hands in original position but completely crossed during exit turn... okay given you KNOW how far you have to turn but if a skid occurred or the curve sharpened your crossed arms would collide and you could go no further - not safe). Anyway I'm glad you've learned to live with the yoke and I agree it does look cooler and is fine on a straight road (if you don't have emergency maneuvers) but I only considered the Plaid now because of the availability of a round steering wheel. Also, FYI, I believe now that brake kit and software update to connect the dots is available I've read the car has done 217... Agree with you it may not matter but they promoted the car as 200 mph and it should have been capable under some scenario sooner.
I have the Model 3 and this was very interesting to watch. My car still has the physical stalks for turn indicators and gear switching, along with a full circular steering wheel. I've never used a yoke steering wheel, so can't really compare the two, but it seems like you got used to it quickly and are loving it. Is it difficult to use the capacitive touch buttons on the yoke when you're making a turn? For example, if you're making a U-turn and see a driver in front of you doing something strange, is it easy to locate the honk button and use it? I feel like I wouldn't be able to do it under the stress of that situation because you're turning the yoke and your hands have moved all over it, so the orientation might get all screwed up...but curious if this also becomes a muscle memory thing.
How long does it take to get used to the fact that all the controls are done through the screen? I work at a car dealer and the 1st time I got in a Model 3 we have for sale it took me ages to find the screen to turn on the wipers, or adjust the mirrors.
@@brendang673 I moved from a Subaru Crosstrek (first gen, so not much electronics) to a Model Y, and within at most 1 week everything was fine. I still wish for an easier way to change temps and fan speed, but that's all.
@@brendang673 it's definitely strange at first, but if you're driving it pretty regularly, then it becomes second nature with a week or two. The first time you try do something (like putting it in neutral or trying to defrost the windshield), it can be an awkward process of fumbling through menus, but after that, you'll get it and know how to do it.
@@BackfallGenius you could say that about any car.
The holiday update (at least in my Y) has the arrows for the fan speed, and you could use voice control to adjust that before so you don't have to take your eyes off the road at all.