The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (2003) Retrospective / Review
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"The studio also felt that the character (Tom Sawyer) would appeal to younger audiences". This may have been an accurate statement in 1896.
😂
Everyone read Tom Sawyer in middle school
I loved that guy doe he had charisma
"What are you?"
"I'm complicated."
Sums up the movie in a nutshell.
I am not ashamed to say thay i really like this movie
You're not alone, I admit it's not great and very flawed but I enjoy it
SAME!
Screw what the critics have said I really enjoyed this movie
Whatever turns your crank ⚙️👩🔧🇺🇲🛠️🇷🇺
What are you???!!!
I'm... complicated.
The special effects used for Skinner were amazing.
I'm not ashamed to admit that I bloody loved this when I was younger. It had a real dark element to it.
It literally does have a dark element to it...it’s called poor lighting and badly advised color timing...
I think it was a decade early tbh
It needs a decent reboot.
@@cuteface4891😂😂😂😂😂
_"May this new century be yours, son, as the old one was mine."_
I consider Quatermains' last words in the movie (and the last line in Connerys' career) very fitting. Quatermain wasn't just passing the torch to Tom Sawyer, in a way Connery himself was passing the torch to the next generation of Actors. At least, this is my take on this.
insightful and inspiring!
that goes for your comment!
Connery was an actor?
This was The Avengers but for literature. I still don't get why people dislike it.
Cuz this movies boring and doll
because the movie is garbage
It had a great concept and good moments for sure but I found the ending was a bit of a letdown.
Both of them, piles of hot garbage
They're both comic book movies that 30 year olds have passionate opinions about.
This is a weird time.
"It's Africa. Sweating is what we do." I don't get the hate for this film. It's fun and imaginative. But, I like it so that's enough for me.
I love this movie. However, Nemos ship was ridiculous.
The battle in Dorian’s library with Moriarty’s men shows the potential of this film. If it were mostly like that it’d be damn good. As it stands I do enjoy revisiting this from time to time. It’s a campy adventure.
Me too, it also sets the tone of who they are by their different fighting styles. Captain Nemo with his swords and hand-to-hand combat, along with Quartermain, even Swayer, and Dorrian. How Mina wrecked the guy who attacked her, and the Griffin using a book to fight. How they approach the situation, shows the viewer who they are. I wish there were more of that. It sorta there when they go to Venice, and toward the end, but it really isn't consistent through the film.
I do wish that this was after Hyde's recruitment. Having every member of the League (including Hyde) do battle against Moritarty's men would've been a joy to watch. I like to imagine that Jekyll would've been chased off into another room of Gray's house, drinking the elixir and hiding behind some furniture while the men who followed fire their guns at him. At first you'd think they have succesfully killed Jekyll, only to be surprised by Hyde.
I will never apologize for loving this movie.
*RIP* Sir Connery.
Same
I remember going to the cinema with my Dad and watching this one. We had a blast, we both liked it and I remember loving the idea of making these Victorian-era icons into superhero-like characters.
It's a shame the production was so troubled and that it didn't make enough money. The most memorable part for me was the ending. I thought it was awesome and had such huge potential for a sequel.
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@Major Dexter Instablaster ;)
I think the movie was only good thanks to the editing of the film, not the director. What a shit show.
I had almost the same experience. My dad and I both still really enjoy the film as we did when we saw it in theaters.
I know this movie is supposedly a travesty that everybody hated, but I quite enjoy it.
I love it too. It's one of those movies I stop to watch when I channel search.
Same. I haven't watched it for years and I probably didn't have as cultivated tastes back then but I remember enjoying it
overall it's not very good but jekyll/hyde, nemo, his ship and car, are extremely awesome and memorable.
I always liked this film and still do, not perfect but it’s entertaining.
Same here. I'm one of the weirdos that liked this film.
Lol its garbage
There's an excellent fanedit called "The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen Strikes!" made by BionicBob on the IFDB (internet fanedit database).
It removes a lot of the cringe theater jokes, minimizes Tom Sawyer, adds back deleted scenes, color grades the movie to black & white, and applies a grain filter to give an old film serial look (as well as hide some of the poorly aged CG).
@@hcaz5818 Perhaps a garbage adaptation of the comic, but I enjoyed it as its own thing.
Same
3:49, neither Connery nor the cast got along with the director, and when asked where he was, Connery said, "Check the local asylum."
How can one claim this has elements of plagiarism when the entire premise is based on characters from the works of others?
They cannot
You know, that's a good point. I also don't agree with 23:21 , while the League is a creation of Moore's the characters in it aren't. He essentially butchered the characters from books of other writers. It is still an original creation to Moore, but it's the sort of butchering that isn't different from one of my, or anyone else's video edits. So, what I'm saying is Alan Moore needs to chill.
Although the characters are from public domain books, the precise premise of the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen comic is Moore's doing. The way the characters are arranged in a Justice League team. The way Mr. Hyde is a proxy for Hulk. The portrayal of Nemo as an Indian Prince, with turbans and all. The way Mina Murray assumes the leadership of the League. And specially the way Moriarty is inserted as the real mastermind. If you happen to do a similar story by using the same public domain characters, you would be doing plagiarism against Moore.
That's the plaintiffs claims in the lawsuit against Fox. Maybe they had a script with public domain characters similar to the ones Moore used, but the story was more similar to the movie Fox made (which was very different from the Moore's comic book). Maybe Fox merged the script from the plaintiffs with the Moore's comic book.
Not much for brains, eh?
I have always had a soft spot for this film. There's just something about the characters and the banter between them that I find fun. 😎
and suddenly I see Moriarty's plan in Sherlock: A Game of Shadows was a tad less original
I still have the 2 disc DVD of this in my collection. The stories from Flemyng and Curran about Connery are insightful, saying that he was generous with the crew and paid for dinner for everyone each time. It's a shame he called it quits after this. Only time he's come close to making another film was his interest in playing Albert Finney's part in Skyfall.
He was also courted for Indiana Jones And The Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull. He turned it down, due to his enjoyment of retirement. If you ask me, he chose a good time to leave acting. I recall seeing him plugging this movie on the Tonight Show with Jay Leno. At times, he seemed to be forgetting where he was.
@@JB0071051982 I bet Sir Sean is probably kicking his own ass for not taking the roles in the "Matrix" sequels and "Lord of the Rings" movies, due to how successful they turned out to be
I saw an interview on CZcams where he mentioned Indy 4. Spielberg offered it to him, but Sean thought the part wasn't interesting or substantial enough. So we didn't get to see him and Harrison together again.
To be honest, he was probably best off out of Indy 4 because it turned out awful imo.
@@DrQuagmire1 and aslo rest in peace sen Connery the old man's been dead for 3 yerscst this point
the finished film was not terrible, it was OK, but never rose above that.
i wish Netflix would pick this up and make it into a series like the mandalorian
That could work.
Penny Dreadful
League of Extraordinary Non-gender Specific Persons
@@reinforcedpenisstem wokeflix.
People are triggered that Netflix isn’t far right? Seriously? They’re a company and most people aren’t racist so they’ve got to pander to the majority of their members that’s just capitalism sorry folks.
Just rewatched this last week and it holds up incredibly well, it's at least as good as the bottom half of the Marvel catalog.
This is my guilty pleasure film to this day. Love how campy and fun it is. I still quote it line for line.
"Draw your pistol!"
"I walk a different path."
Nemo was a BAMF.
spot on 💗?
Always liked it.
I quote the "I'm complicated" line daily
If you adapt one of Moore's works it has a 1 in 6 chances of being genuinely good... and 100% probability of being hated by Alan Moore (honestly he hates everything).
That is so true.😂😂😂😂
Such an underrated classic. I love this movie.
I think that's one of the big problems which plague the concept of the League: no one reads the classics anymore so name dropping these characters is wasted. Half the genius of reading the source material for instance is trying to figure out who some of these characters are when they're backgrounds are told but not their full names. Not enough of the target audience 'get's it'.
Rayn Wolfsbane Underrated? Maybe. Classic? No.
It's definitely not a classic. I enjoyed it, but "classic" carries a lot of weight.
"Alan Moore was disappointed with the adaptation"
You don't say.
I think this was the one that sent him over the edge due to the lawsuit that made it sound like he may have stolen someone else’s idea.
Victor Kruger Instagram influencers don’t have as high of an opinion of themselves as Alan Moore has of himself.
The comic version of Lucas.
Victor Kruger, i always listen that alan moore did not like that adaptation, bla bla bla, but looking that hippie, and i think and ask myself, did that hippie really watch those movies, (watchmen, V, from hell, league, etc etc)? i dont think so
@@alexvelasquez3945 and did those filmmakers bother to read his books ally the way through?
Honestly, I think the movie is perfectly fine. Never understood all the hate.
This is one of those criminally underrated Movies. Really love the world and design of it ! Sadly it bombed, always wanted a sequel !
Another great Movie was Van Helsing !
Really was and is
One of my favourite films, no joke! Watched it when I was very young and watched and loved ever since ❤
This movie and van helsing(Hugh Jackman) were good. Character development should not be forced like they do in all superhero films nowadays.
Those 2 films are "guilty pleasures"...
"The BAD will fight for GOOD."
The original Suicide Squad, eh? :))
Underrated film i liked it and still watch it now. The CG let it down a bit, but the literary nods from other books and characters was amazing.
I love this movie, I don't care what others say.
This movie is so much fun for me!
I liked it too
It’s so fun . it’s like a ‘“guilty” pleasure
I liked it enough when it came out.
But more because of the concept. And the action was shot well.
But once you read the comic and realize what it could have been.....
Then why are you here?
I guess I'm one of the few who genuinely like this movie. Watched when I was in elementary school.
Gene Bello it’s a guilty pleasure of mine
@@oliviawilliams6204 Same here.
The literary Victorian Avengers
I still like this movie ❤
*ahem* Okay here goes: The movie was not that bad.
Honestly not that bad, yo. Likable characters!
For me LXG shares a spot with Van Helsing from 2004 & Wild Wild West from 1999, in that they may not be the best adaptations of their respective source material, but I found them to be fun watches nonetheless.
Dude i think so too, i dont get why it gets so much shit, how can this be the movie that made sean connery quit when the guy had made avengers before?
Agreed. It DOES entertain.
One of my all time favorites... for what it was
This movie doesn't deserve half the crap it gets. The graphic novel is much better but is also far too deep for the masses and would never have translated well into what was intended to be an action movie. As an adaptation for a PG-13 audience this was more than passable and 'leagues' better than garbage like Suicide Squad.
Going PG-13 with Alan Moore's work was the exact problem.
The original comic was extremely bloody, cynical, highly offensive and full of swearing and people being naked.
Taking all that out, robbed the material of its bite.
Agreed. It was entertaining enough the first time I watched it. It's just of it's era.
@@wjzav1971 The original comic was a sardonic and humorous take on Victorian fiction and the Wold Newton concept,
Although Kim Newman was doing that in his Anno Dracula stories before Moore started doing it in TLOEG.
I loved Moore and O'Neill's TLOEG myself except for the Jimmy Bond bit being run into the ground.
It was far superior to Watchmen.
@@wjzav1971 Are you fucking kidding me the original graphic novel was an Alan Moore book? Fuck i gotta go read it
Its interesting to note that Stuart Townsend was the first choice for Aragorn and Sean Connery for Gandalf in the Lord of the Rings.
I really enjoyed this film. It's so underated and fantastic.
I wasn't aware of the source material.
Torrington is a very talented director. After nearly 20 years I wish he'd make a comeback.
I conned 2 of my friends into seeing this by telling them that the other guy wanted to see it. When we came out they turned to each other and were like “why the hell did you want to see this, what’s wrong with you?”
That’s when they both realized the truth and looked at me and I said “I didn’t think it was that bad.”
17 years later and I still get crap for pulling it off lol
but the movie still entertains 👍
Thank you for sharing that story.😂😂😂😂😂😂
“Comic accuracy” isn’t important to me in film adaptations, it can be different so long as what is produced is good. But many of the ideas I like here are dropped or barely touched on. The League are much less interesting here. In the comics they’re like washed up celebrities. As you say, they’re “broken”, which is def the case. Here their pasts are barely touched on, and the characters are like 10% of what they were in the source material. Stuff like that isn’t impossible to do in a movie like this. Another interesting aspect that wasn’t carried over was the continuity with the source material. The characters feel like they were straight from the pages of the classic the novels they came from. You could read those books, and then feel like you’re seeing a continuation of those characters and their stories. Unfortunately the film takes some serious creative liberties with it’s characters, so it comes off more as fan fiction. The changes don’t really do anything for the characters either.
The Del Toro Hellboy films take a lot of liberties with the characters and story. But I don’t mind the changes, largely because of Perlman and GDT’s direction, but the characters are fun and have good chemistry. Nuada from the Golden Army isn’t even in the comics but he is easily one of the great comic book movie villains of the last 20 years or so. Off topic, but i’d love a review of that first Hellboy.
Tl;dr, comic book accuracy isn’t important if the movie is good, but if the changes don’t work, then don’t bother changing anything. I wouldn’t mind seeing another stab at the material on the big screen, but only if it’s helmed by the right people, who can bring something new and exciting to the story.
when this movie came out, and still now, i like it. When comic book movies arent common and your still waiting for an avengers movie is still 9 yrs away i saw it as a victorian age avengers movie :P
A very underrated movie. Like Daredevil, Ghost Rider and Van Helsing, I felt it was the main villain that let it down.
I still like the film.
Personally I find it better than those other 3 films you mentioned. Although I have a soft spot for Van Helsing.
@giftofgab247 If you look at the punctuation in his comment, you will see that he didn't mention them as examples of other underrated movies. But as examples where the main villain let the movie down. (which I feel is a much more kind way than I personally would put it.)
@@MorderElg agree. Terrible villains that made already wonky films rather unwatchable for repeat viewings.
Daredevil and ghost Rider were trash
This and Mystery Men are both SO under appreciated!.That said,the scene where the Nautilus appears at the dock with the bad cgi is dreadful..Still a super fun flick!
The Super Squad.
Saw this years back when I was still a kid on DVD - remember really enjoying it back then....
Check out the fan cut "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen Strikes!" on the IFDB.
I was a kid when this came out and my dad and I LOVED it. I still love it, the concept is so wonderful. I see the flaws in it now as an adult but it influenced my creativity so much. I will DEFINITELY have to check out the comics!
I wished there was a book showing the detail of all that magnificent design and concept work from the film...
I saw this at the cinema in 2003. I feel so old.
The tone of this movie is refreshing
Dang, I’d always heard that this was one of the worst movies of all time and I completely avoided the film because of that. I have a new found fascination of this film because of this retrospective and will be watching it soon.
It's not even close to being one of the worst films of all time. It's a flawed movie that suffers from not knowing what it wants to be a lot of the time.
Totally watchable & enjoyable for what it is, tho.
Also, I think Jason Fleming is good in this film.
He was good in the George A. Romero film Bruiser as well. That's a weird movie that's not for everyone. Another very flawed film as well...which is why you don't hear many folks talk about it. Even among Romero's biggest fans, Bruiser is a bit of an "afterthought" a lot of the time....
@@dizzle1119 Jekyl/Hyde is one of my favorite aspects of this movie, though I certainly love it as a whole.
Not sure how you’ll feel about it now in a post-Marvel world, but at its time, def not one of the worst.
Still more character development than Justice League the movie 😒
Not even CLOSE to being one of the worst movies of all time. Not even in the "top" 200 of bad popular movies.
You deserve so many more subscribers it's unreal...
Alan Moore's sheer contempt for films based on his comics, and the industry as a whole, is kinda hilarious.
You should do a retrospective on the 2009 Dorian Gray movie.
I forgot that even existed.
@@niallreid7664 i never knew it did exist.
The what now?!
it's the one with the guy who played Caspian Narnia
Sean Connery passed on playing Gandalf what a dumb move. His Gandalf would have been cool but Ian Mckellen still was awesome as the Grey wizard.
"Yoooo shall not pashhhhhhh!"
Not sure what he found hard to understand about Lord Of The Rings
@@jamstonjulian6947 He's never been fond of magic and medieval-set movies.
@The Creature and that weird guy in underwear with a moustache and pony tail in "Zardoz"
I'm glad I have this on BlueRay and DVD....gonna watch this tonight. Thank you for making this retrospective
This film is criminally underrated!
i actually really liked this film, i thought the casting and the visuals carried it through
This had so much potential, they even had a budget they just needed to figure out what made the story special and focus on that
The reveal that Moriarty was the mastermind behind everything could've worked, if the movie had shown or mentioned anything about Sherlock Holmes.
Sean Connery's Cinematic finale
For now...
This was a very interesting time frame to explore and I enjoyed this movie as a 20 year old when it was released
"The author Alan Moore was cynical of the film in it's development". Well that goes without saying
Karl well, Alan morre was pissed off at the wacthmen moviec for relly no reson
The number 1 source for media retrospectives, Oliver Harper.. Bravo sir Bravo
About time!!! Thank you, Oliver. It's hard to believe that this film killed Sean Connery's acting career.
It didn't kill his acting career. He still receives offers. He's just having too good of a time in retirement
Connery was just making a big fuss to rationalise his retirement
And let’s face it, it might have played a part in, but he did pick a lot of bad movie before then and his career was kinda going nowhere anymore. Can blame his agent with the fact that he picked Avengers over LotR for example
@@oliviawilliams6204 he wanted a clean exit and blamed the director.
Didn’t “get” lord of the rings but this sounded good?
He chose . . . poorly.
Duncan well he did a 17 million dollar paycheck
prettzx the other movie he didn’t “get” was The Matrix, he was offered the part of Morpheus, and Will Smith was offered the role of Neo, Will Smith decided to do Wild Wild West, instead? LXG was supposed to be a franchise, that’s why Quartermain comes back to life at the end.
Could not see him as Gandalf after Ian’s portrayal being so good
I think you don't necessarily had to know about Lotr to that time, but everybody knows the books the characters of this movies are from. At least I had read most of them when I was young and the ones I haven't read like the portrait of Dorian Gray or the Quatermain books, I at least knew about. And while I also read newer and longer books like Dune, Lotr always sounded like some boxer biography to me, which would have more entertaining in the end I guess...
Sean Connery’s final film of his acting career.
Such a waste. Imagine if he'd been Gandalf instead.
Love Sean, but very glad Ian played Gandalf!
he voiced an animated movie after this i believe
Samur/Aye u mean sir billi
@@lukedaley17 yeah something like that.
I loved this movie when I watched this during school time.
I certainly remember the cinema when I watched this, being the only one in the room and sitting through the endless credit scene.
Now I'll find out if I'm the only one who screamed at the screen "Tom Sawyer would have been Seventy!"
*looked good for his age*
i love this movie it's in my top 30
These retro reviews are the best. Well done sir, keep em comin
Oliver Harper I found a picture online of the cast posing in character with a caption put on it that said "We were the Avengers before it was cool" lol.
I'm not sure I've ever seen an expensive blockbuster such as this with any less starpower in almost any role (apart from Sean Connery, of course).
A considerable "Who's That!?" of actors, when compared to other blockbusters of it's kind...
Watchmen was similar in that way. None of those actors could be considered "stars" by the general public.
@@kimbooley90 most of them went to work on various other projects, though, thus kind of justifying their casting.
I think Watchmen's quality of casting is leaps and bounds above this mess.
A much better film aswell, even if Watchmen isn't even that great either.
You should do Watchmen next, Oliver.
Love that movie so much. I hope it have a second pt.
This is one of those cheesy movies that I never think about, but I watch it every time it’s on cable tv!
With it's pitfalls, I still enjoyed this flm.
I actually kinda like this movie, a decent 7/10
+1
Great video. Outstanding as usual. Love LXG. Keep up with the great content Oliver. Cheers!
Excellent work on this video Mr. Harper.
The film that made Sean Connery retire from acting
Not only retire, the movie killed his acting career.
The man of a thousand voices .all of them Scottish
Won't be missed. He's a prick
Christopher R I’m not Spanish, I’m Egyptian
not his last,
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This movie was and still is great.
R.I.P. Sean. I do love this movie
Hair Stylist Friend: Let me trim those frayed ends...
Alan Moore: Nooooooo! (Runs away)
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen was a BIG disappointment to me when I saw it in the theatre. The story had great potential but poor direction sunk it. Not shocked that there was tension on the set. WIsh this was not the film that made Sean Connery retire.
I hated how Captain America: The First Avengers seemed to have taken cues from this movie instead of Joe Johnson’s own movie The Rocketeer.
@@kamdan2011 The Rocketeer is alot of fun and still holds up.
Try the fan cut on the IFDB. If the original version is a 4 or 5/10, I'd say the fan cut is a solid 6/10. It's called "The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen Strikes!" made by BionicBob.
An actor friend of mine worked on this movie in one of the lead roles and it killed his career.
@giftofgab247 They keep things deliberately obscure to avoid copyright problems (even though I think fan cuts may be considered Fair Use). Google fanedit info. The site you want should be the first result. Most IFDB fan edits are hosted there, but indirectly. They're in .DLC files, which you put into a site like Dcrypt, which will decrypt the .DLC file and give you a private download link from Mega. Let me know if you got any questions.
I always thought the show Penny Dreadful, which is one of my favorite shows, was able to execute the idea so much better. Have you seen it ? Its on Netflix now, was on Showtime. Its so good but i always think of it as the the better adaptation of a similar idea.
I'll say it again...Oliver Harper's reviews are simply the best there are on CZcams!
Great channel, really love your work Oliver
Much appreciated!
This movie's biggest problem was its length and the year it was released
this could have been such a good movie.
damned shame.
I always hate these movies more than others. Because they have every potential to be a great movie. Law abiding citizen is another example.
On the bright side it's one of those 'so bad it's good' movies. It was a riot in the theatre and I actually bought the dvd
It's an okay movie.
Sean Connery kept wanting changes in the script.
8:36 thanks for reminding me that this movie exist.
I really love ur retrospect. I could watch those 4 hours (if time would permit it 😊) I rewatch ur superman3 retrospect last week and i still find things that i never knew about the film. Great job as always and cant w8 for ur 80s doc. 💪😬🤜
28:25 "The recent Watchmen series, I thought, was brilliant!"
[Harry S. Plinkett voice] ................ Ohhhhh.
Yeah, I had to question his taste there too.
@@dariusq8894
Hey, I really liked the Watchmen tv series.
... Why is that a strange opinion? HBO's Watchmen got great reviews and audience reaction. It's more the outlier if he didn't like it.
An underrated gem of a movie.
I love this movie I was the only one who loved it when I saw it with friends and family. I heard it was base on a comic book but I didn't read it before seeing it. To me it's just a fun movie to watch I know it has problem and it's far from perfect, God I wish they made a sequel mixing War of the Worlds would have been so awesome.
Blade 1 is still frigging awesome!
*Sean Connery voice* JUNIOR!
The film might be completely ridiculous however the comic is superb
It is, one of the most creative graphic novels I've ever read. And the art fits the Victorian era style too
It deserves a proper treatment as a TV series.
Honestly Oliver you and Kim Justice and the only two channels I’ll click straight away no matter what when you post a new video. Also I really enjoyed In Search of Darkness, really looking forward to your next one.
Another Great review. Always a treat. Cheers Mate.