The Biggest Snubs & Surprises Of The NBA's Official Top 75 List
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
- The NBA released their list of the top-75 players of all time to celebrate the NBA's 75th season. In this video, I take a look at some of the biggest snubs and surprises. Enjoy!
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The Alex English snub was one of the biggest surprises...dude was one of the best NBA players during the 1980's.I ran into him a few years ago when he stopped by my job.Alex hits the gym regularly apparently....he still looked athletic and in playing shape.lol
Agree. He is revered at the USC (South Carolina), an All-Star and for me one of the greatest Denver Nuggets ever, long before Carmelo Anthony.
Ppl sleep on how good he was
Not really, denver in his prime was,ok we are gonna get 120 points lets try to get 130. Id rather take ice man than english 10/10 times
Pau is a big snub too.
It seems like they confuse “popular” with “greatest” in the cases of some of the really early players. Lenny wilkins couldn’t outplay Vince carter!?
That AD and Damian over Dwight thing really blows my mind, considering that AD never have carried a team on his own to reach a single final or even a conference final. Actually, Dwight deserves the top 50 instead of top 75.
Agreed
Dennis Rodman scottie pippen list goes on and on never carried a team..ad was the best player on that lakers title run
Dwight never led a team alone either lmao
@@vintagedrugrug8637 Are you under the age of 12?
@@vintagedrugrug8637 You must be on crack. He led them to the 2009 Finals and multiple ECF in Orlando
Tony Parker won 4 nba finals & 1 finals mvp, ranks 9th in pts scored in playoffs history and 5th in assists. No matter how good Dame is if he's on the list but Tony isnt, well yeah I have a problem with it.
The 75 list is for popularity. Dame still has alot to prove and they should have waited him and ad till 100th. I think they could have looked at other players. Parker, dwight, vc, big ben, pau, motumbo, Penny, grant, tmac
I have a problem with Alex English not on this 75th anniversary team. The leading scorer of the whole decade of the 1980s and he is not on the team. That is ridiculous!!
Tony Parker was on an elite team and his stats are inflated because of how many games he played. I'll give you points, but assists? Not even top five compared to othe point guards. He'll, he wasn't even top five point guards. And Ginobili is arguably the second best player on the Spurs.
@@younglove3362 its actually the opposite. Pop system really was built around selfless basketball, extrapass and using every player as a whole. Just look at Kawhi stats when on the spurs and after the spurs. He didn't become amazing after the spurs, he already was but the system was not around him, and wasn't around Tony neither.
@@st4r444 so true
Dwight gets no respect, the man worked so hard he literally broke his back
broke back mountain of a howard
@@noobartist3762 lmao
3 DPOTY went to a final after beating Lebron
People have forgotten how good he was for the first decade of his career.
Can someone PLEASE explain to me why Dikembe Mutombo isn't talked about, or why he isn't on this list? So, there's NO praise for all-time level defense?
8x All Star
2x TRB Champ
3x BLK Champ
3x All-NBA
6x All-Defensive
1991-92 All-Rookie
4x Def. POY
10x All-League
2nd All-time Blocks
20th All-time Rebounds
Because dame lillard hit a big shot a time or two. Enough said
@@scottiedpoy8508 that's a bad shot
DIKEMBE DIDNT MAKE IT? HES EASILY IN THE TOP 50
He's the worst of the 90's center and he never could score 20ppg. It's like how Mike Conley is always overlooked because there are way too many other players at that position that are just better. Period.
@@blackphillip564 yet 1 dimentional players that only score can make the list. Meanwhile a top defence wins the chip every year... hmmm. Id also question is 10pts a game more valuable than 0.1 steals/blocks?
Its crazy how dame went from being underrated to being overrated
No cap
Yeah he’s probably top 100, but top 75 seems a bit much for a guy that has never made the finals or been more than 4th in MVP voting
Love Dame as he is one of the best scorers and shooters we’ve ever seen
TBH I was thinking Kyrie had a better chance of making the list, but still glad Dame made it
Stop lying. Ain’t nothing overrated about Dame. He’s easily top 75. Go look at some other players who don’t deserve it
As a person who hopes Dame goes to my Knicks because he could probably get MVP and finally play with a defensive team, I do think he doesn’t belong in the Top 75 if he just entered his prime like 1 or 2 years ago
@@leokizzo3515 He’s top 85 Not Top 75
Let's remember also that Tony Parker made the floater used widely in the NBA nowadays.... Isn't it the mark of the great when players use a move popularized by another player ?
I think generally Europeans has been snubbed on this vote... Pau Gasol should have also be on this list. He also won Rookie of the year in 2002 almost tied with.... Tony Parker...
And Manu popularized the eurostep.
Vince, tmac, pau, Penny, motumbo, grant
Hey......I called this number as a kid and nothing happend
I agree with the list. I'm glad it wasn't only me who felt TMac, Dwight Howard, Grant Hill, Vince Carter deserve to be there as well.
And Dikembe Mutombo
Grant hill? Tmac? Lol grant hill was injury prone and had no accomplishments and tmac couldn’t get out the first round
@@SANDMAN_7 Mcgrady has more basic accolades than most on the list
Lillard made the cut having little to No awards nor accolades in his resume’ yet howard who has all the pieces to make it in the top 75th didn't make the cut 😂😂
DRose deserves to make this list over Lillard
@@whodat787 lillard has had 4 seasons better than d rose mvp season lmao
@@whodat787 dude, what are you smokin
@@whodat787 whatever it is, plz share
@@danielb4389 lol that's a lie. which 4 seasons from Lillard were better than DRose's MVP season???
A lot of selections on the NBA 75 are all motivated by recency bias
not disrespect AD and dame but he's not done enough compare to dwight and tonyparker
What about Bob McAdoo?
@@TheManny717 he is good to be included there
Fr…Dwight has had a better career than dame
Nah. A lot of it was these politics of leaving the 50 best from before the voters even watched the league. A lot of those old role players shouldn't be on the list compared to legends from the 2000s
Howard is missed for sure, but I would say Mt. Mutombo also deserves the list. 8x All Star 3x All-NBA 4x DPOY 6x All Defense 2x Rebound leader 3x Block leader. Seems like defense doesn't get enough credit in this list. Sidney Moncrief and Ben Wallace should be included as well.
ben Wallace is a good one I didn't think off. strangely I think none of that pistons team is on the list
Reggie Miller imo was part of the beginning of "spreading the floor" that Dirk solidified. There was no doubt that, with Michael out of the way, Indiana flourished because of this. You had to watch those outlet passes to him. And he had SUCH manic energy. He was firing on all cylinders the moment he came near the arena, never mind the parquet floor.
Bob McAdoo was easy money too with his 10-12 footers, even at the end of his career with the Lakers. Look at some of their old tapes and you'll see him firing the shot from 50 feet in the air. A guaranteed swoosh. He was another favorite.
And if Giannis keeps on this career upward trajectory, this guy will own the NBA. His championship run was incredible. I was disappointed for Chris Paul, as I'd like him to get a ring (Devin Booker will get his, don't worry). But Giannis, man...just incredible.
Glenn Rice started it before both of them.
Your Miller assessment is on point. A guy like Rip Hamilton really gave those 2000’s Piston some buckets with that play style.
Absence of Vince Carter is heartbreaking... Yes, no titles, but he and Iverson changed the flow of the Game in the early 2000's.
Was robbed by wasting his prime on the nets. Had he been sent to a contender in that infamous 04-05 season, he probably wins a ring or makes a Finals appearance.
@@deanbenford7363 bad take, the nets were a contender before carter and if anything they got worse with him
@@thischanneldoesnotexist.750 doesn't change his talent though. He in fact himself admitted as he plays for the love of the game and not for winning. Talent wise he was better than pierce and westbrook. Tmac was even better than him his peak was just shorter. Its all about accolades though which makes it a longer list while looking at numbers but at eye test they were at least better than pierce on the list.
@@artix003 I dont agree that hes better than pierce, however, I also agree that this list is much too based on accolades. T-Mac, Bernard King, and to a lesser extent carter could have absolutely made the list if it wasn't
@@thischanneldoesnotexist.750 bad take? Got worse? Let me correct you. The NJN started the season 4-13 including a 9 game losing streak before VC's arrival. They finished the season 3rd in the East so what bad take arw you talking about.
Man when Reggie Miller got the news that he made it , his reaction was priceless because he thought it was a joke but like man , I’m so so happy for him , despite he broke knicks fans hearts in the 90s , he was absolutely clutch and a helluva 3 point shooter in his prime
The king of trash talking
*The king of Flops
I teared watching him
He was so much better than what people give him credit for. Beyond the ppg and other stats…the man flat out owned moments. End of game with one shot to win, I still lump him with Bird and Allen as top choices for me.
i’m happy for him too but he didn’t deserve it over Chris Bosh, Dwight Howard, Kyrie Irving, or VC
This was the best comprehensive breakdown of the 75. Better than any NBA analyst has done yet.
Vince and Dwight deserve to be in there…. Over Dame and AD… Period.
Kinda mad about Ben Wallace. Hope he gets in during the 100th greatest players list. Dudes a top 10 greatest defender of all time.
Another guy whose numbers didn’t help their case 😔
Definitely he’s the greatest undrafted player of all time
Voters don't give a sh*t about defense. None of the guys tied with the most Defensive player of the year titles got in... Sure, they had bad (perhaps pitiful) offensive stats. But only 1 DPOY behind them is Dwight, with an average of 20(+) points in his carreer. You can remove the argument of "all defense, no offense" and still didn't make it. Which means they probably overlooked defense accomplishments entirely
Lol, unfortunately i think there's no chance we'll see him added also in that list, cuz Repoters and the others dont care if you've been an elite Defender, and also the best UNDRAFTED player of all time, if you're point records are absolutely awful. I wish he'll make it one day, but I see no hope😔
Top 3
AD getting in and Dwight being snubbed made the NBA 75th team a big joke.
AD is just a better player than Dwight. Not saying Dwight is or was a scrub but he has always been one dimensional on offense. In his prime he could score based just on his athleticism. He never worked on his game or developed a jump shot. He'll be a surefire HOF'er but even in his prime he was not better than AD. I think prime Amar'e Stoudemire was better than prime Dwight.
@@jamesflanagan7693 your a casual drug
D Howard 3 dopy in a row and a ring with ad also way better defense player not soft to
@@jamesflanagan7693 AD is probably better than Dwight if you were born after 2010.
😂😂😂 I was born in 1978 and have been watching the NBA since 1992. Dwight was no doubt a better defensive player and AD is soft and overrated but the facts are the facts......he can do more on the court than Dwight. He can shoot, he can hit free throws and after injuries took away Dwight's athleticism he has been a shell of the player he was. Even after injuries, AD has been great.
Damian Lillard over Tony Parker is literally unacceptable!
His wife dont think so
Eva Longoria does
TP is good, but let us not pretend that DL is better.
Shoutout to Dwight Howard. It’s very hard to make All NBA 8 times.
Dwight definitely deserved to be on this list. 8x all star, 3x defensive player of the year, 4x all defensive first team, led the NBA in rebounding 5 times, and an NBA championship. Need I say more? As well as T Mac. If it weren’t for his injuries he could’ve been a better player than what he was.
5X all nba first team.... bunch of people on that list doesn't even have a stretch as dominant as prime dwight.... he's so disrespected
I wish he could make it on top 100 NBA list in the year 2046. We could wait for that and he'll be already on Naismith HOF in the near future. 😁
Not a single person I would take off of that list for Howard get real bro
@@RellshouldBsleep How 'bout Dame?
@@RellshouldBsleep ray Allen. Easy.
How Bernard King has still not been selected, dude was incredible
True and Alex English shoot even penny
His cocaine alcohol addiction plus he chock out a woman back in the day while being faded...yeah he wasn't getting in lol but yeah he was a beast def deserve it over some of these current players
@@33Rakim true but look at Karl Malone that’s all I have to have say
Bernard king had a tough life growing up, watch a documentary about him.
@@ericfinch7392 yeah, Karl Malone is at the top for what you're talking about. Even that kobe/Colorado thing didn't change his legacy.
Too many current players and to many who really didn't accomplish anything but being able to score. Basketball is a team game where you play to win championships. You are correct about Dumars. I would add Dennis Johnson. Three championships with two teams. It seems, like with the Dumars snub, flash and popularity were more important than results....
Im late on this but I was shocked that Alonzo Mourning wasn't on this list. I know that he had kidney disease in 2000 and he made a comeback. But he had a great NBA career.
7x All-Star
2006 NBA Champion with the Heat
2× Defensive Player of the Year.
A gold medal in the 2000 Summer Olympics. I felt like he is slept on.
Yeah true.
Chris bosh underrated, 11x allstar , 2x champ and was forced to retire in his prime, he was an allstar the season before the bloodclots
He was a beast in raptor and after lebron left. Too bad he was sick
Not even top 300. Maybe the most overrated player of all time and I watched over 98% of all his games. Compare him to Alonzo Mourning for example...not even in the same ballpark.
He averaged the same number of rebounds as Bargnani in Toronto in his Miami days and only 1 asst per game. Scrub level numbers.
@@Veggamattic thanks for the advanced analysis
@@OneAndOnlyRoRo I'm kind like that.
Tony Parker is so underrated. Absolute legend bordel !!!
Wasn't Ginobili a more complete player with similar impact on the game?!
@@radiationoncologist They are very close but i’d still go with Tony over Manu, I’m french...
Nba players know how much of a best he was. I respect all of those Spurs players for putting the team first and never taking their eyes off of what wins games. They made big sacrifices to their individual stats to be in that system
he is but he doesnt deserve to be on the list because the players in that list were much better
@@eugenegustavo9891Ok
They forgot about Benard King Jack Sikma and Sidney Moncrief!! These guys were the UNSUNG backbone of the NBA in the late 70s & through to the early 80s
Bernard King’s prime was way too short and while he was a walking bucket, there are so many other players better at the small forward position. Sidney Moncrief definitely deserved a spot on this list tho.
Biggest snubs are TP and Pau. I know it's a Nba ranking but what they did with their national team is unbelievable and they were also deserving even if we took only the NBA into account. TP is a Finals mvp, 4x champion and Pau gasol was a beast before going to LA and then won 2 championships there while being the 2nd best player (maybe the best in 2010 finals).
yao ming dukumbo dwight??
TP9 is the greatest snub
alex english and joe dumars
Mcadoo had one of the best peaks ever and he deserves to be in this list
Fr I was honestly surprised he wasn't on the original list.
@@Demi-kid him and Wilkins were the biggest snubs in the top 50 list.
McAdoo was a ballhog and a " nut" aka ppl who dont ever pass the ball and takes every shot
Great video as always. As the biggest Dame fan outside of the PNW and Oakland, I’ll be the first to say too early for him to be on this list. Glad Dominique got his due and thanks for giving Joe D some love.
I don’t think too early. Dudes stats and accolades better than a lot of guys on the list, and he plays in the same conference and era as the goat PG steph curry (undermines his greatness) while never having good enough teammates to help get him a ring. Easily a HOFer and deserves the list especially if guys like AD making it.
@@Bentzema Dame has never had a better year than AD before he went to LA and when they met up in the playoffs AD as a 6th seed swept Dame
Yeah dwight and carter should be in the list over dame but dont bring in kyrie plz.
@@trey8725 Because that series was one-on-one?
Davis didn't beat Lillard. Davis and a far superior Pelicans team beat Lillard and the baggage he has to drag into the playoffs every year.
@@ryanchase9332 if you think that pelicans team was better than the blazers team that year without each star player your lying to yourself
Reggie Miller's lack of awards just means he played in an era with so many grear players.
Reggie was sick. Gave everything. 2nd greatest shooter ever
@@johnrowsell6 ughhh no he wasnt lol. 4th and thats very debatable
Miller is like Vince Carter. They both created this bizarre aura around them from superfical things. Reggie Millers entire career was the '94 and '95 playoff series with the Knicks and Carter's entire legacy is the 2000 dunk contest.
@@blackphillip564 i give ya that, i just would say the first 8 yrs of vinces career dunks + the dunk contest are his thing. He is unquestionably the best in game dunker ever
@@blackphillip564 lmao the dunk contest? Carter was a good ass player, foh
Great video!
«Do, do McAdoo» is now the only Top 75 NBAer and Top 50 EuroLeague contributor. He's the man. Pure class.
the first legit stretch-4
he's more influential now than when he played
@@shaft9000 he was a stretch 5 tho. He played more at the Center then at the PF position.
He was a MVP when Kareem played, that alone makes him better than Westbrick.
Could you image McAdoo playing in todays NBA?
@@shaft9000 No. McAdoo was a center. Stretch 5. The first stretch 4 was Bob Petit. Jerry Lucas too a lesser extent, was also a stretch
Disappointed to see that most people nowadays forget how amazing Vince Carter was in his prime. 😞 He was more than a dunker y'all. #Underappreciated
was he though?
@@Odinson42 probably you're too young to remember VC.
@@Odinson42 look at his stats from 1998-2007 he was a really good 3 point shooter too
@@Odinson42 early 2000's. Better then Kobe Bryant. But he got Shaq so IT was easy to be great.
And guys such as Alex English and Adrian Dantley were a lot more potent, if less entertaining.
Love my Raptors-era VC. Those playoff series in 00-01 were EPIC joy/agony, some of my favorite b-ball ever watched on TV.... but he was too inconsistent to be called an elite player after that.
He's being celebrated (partly) for his longevity and fine character. Which is nice, but not any sort of definitive comparison of player-to-player's achievements.
love dame, one of my fav currently doing it.. but how in tf can they put him on a top 75 of all time list right now
Because he's doing so much with so little. He's putting up the numbers he does and carrying teams through the playoffs despite having by far the worst supporting cast of any player on the list. You put Westbrick or Harden on the Blazers instead of Lillard, they miss the playoffs every season for sure.
@@ryanchase9332 werent russ and harden dragging their teams to the playoffs pretty much solo both of their mvp seasons though?
i just saw the rest of your comment and think youre wrong.. for both of them lol
Dwight definitely is a top 75 player, replace Lillard with Dwight in my opinion
You can also make a case for Anthony Davis. In terms of individual accolades, Dwight Howards deserves it more than the brow
I honestly don’t see it, but I would be interested to hear your case.
Bro AD and Dwight deserve it shut up
Both rode Lebron to a title so there is an * to anything they done as Lakers.
AD and Dame should’ve been taken off for Dwight
Well a lot of old ass players don't deserve to be on there
@@liamphillips9166 yeah and the top 50 has ppl that wouldn’t make it today. Should have been changed. They are no longer top 50
You really tryna say Jason Kidd and Nash are better players than Dame?? You trippin lol
@@leokizzo3515 They are better
For sure
Grant hill deserves an honorable mention aswell as penny hardaway to this day no player did it all like penny did yes injuries hurt his career but in the 90s he was definitely a top 5 player such an amazing talent but hey what do I know?
They're in the "what if" list. You can just squeeze in players because they passed the eye 👁 test. Injuries plagued their careers
To be honest, they could of had the top 100 players. We still wouldn't be satisfied. Just the nature of the beast.
Reggie Miller is one of the best team players in NBA history. His shooting and off ball movement would have a huge positive impact for any team.
Yeh but he was never even considered a superstar while he was playing. His highlight reel of clutch shots is the only reason people who didn’t watch basketball during that era think he was so great. He was barely a top 10 player in the league during his prime.
@@Romanus-I disagree
Although i feel he should've made it i can kind of understand t-mac because of his injuries cutting his career short it's unfortunate. But vince carter and Dwight Howard not making it is ridiculous
I think with Vince it’s because he never worked to improve his game (has admitted this) plus the way things went down with his exit from Toronto hurt him too
T-Mac also didn't make it because he never won a single playoff series EVER. That's why he's not greater than Dame.
TMac was greater than both those guys
@@LHRKiiDfLaSh For those who really know, Nets Vince was better than Raptors Vince. He never said he didn't work to improve his game...he said when one is more gifted, one could get away with some things a less gifted player couldn't get away with. In the context of his discussion with John Thompson, he wasn't implying that he wasn't a hard worker at all. Coach Thompson has come to his defense on this.
Great content..💪💪💪
Another snub: Chris Mullin - Part of the original Dream Team of 1992,as one of the elite then NBA players.Many a time all star,top scorer,shooter,and underrated defender.A legend of the Golden State Warriors.
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Really can’t believe Pau Gasol got snubbed from that 75th anniversary team list , arguably one of the best centers in the late 2000s on those Lakers teams .. just unbelievable
Same and I’m glad that I’m not the only one who saw this huge snubbing job.
I feel like Gasol is literally on the line for that team
Just a poor man’s Dirk
@@Odinson42 yeah that’s pretty much the case
@@Odinson42 have you watch him playing!? Gasol had way better low post game and his style was actually different from Nowitzki.
Crazy to me that Allen, pierce && Garnett formed a big 3 before anyone had that and only achieved one championship but catch zero criticism over it
I don't they catch as much slack as some because KG and Allen were trades. They didn't conspire to join forces.
@@Ronald5484 players can conspire to force trades too. Obviously Boston’s big three wasn’t necessarily as hyped as say Miami’s big three. But kg allen and pierce had private conversations about teaming up before that deal eventually happened
KG, Allen & Truth weren’t the first “Big 3” formed, they just were the first time modern NBA players got to choose where they wanted to play with the stars to align just right to make such a move possible. Garnett had the highest profile of the 3, but wasn’t the megastar the way LeBron or Durant were when they moved to form “superteams”. And though they made the Finals twice in their peak, the Celtics still had to deal with Kobe’s revamped Lakers, and LeBron & Dwight Howard coming into their own primes. I think we all wanted another Lakers-Celtics Finals trilogy from 2008-10, but it’s hard to say that those guys underachieved.
Thanks for letting us know you weren't watching basketball back then. In the 2008-2009 season, after Boston won 66 games (ended the Rockets 22 game win streak that season) and a championship, they started the season 27-2 with a 19 game win streak. In February, Kevin Garnett, the defensive anchor, top 2 player on the team, and the reason why Boston was amazing defensively got a season ending injury in a game at Utah. Despite this, Boston managed to adjust and still finish the season with 62 wins. In the playoffs, Boston were up 3-2 on Orlando. They couldn't seal the deal without KG and lost.
In the 2009-10 season, KG returned a shell of himself. He was very skinny and didn't play like he did before the injury. During this season, Doc Rivers implemented a plan to rest his starters for the playoffs. The Celtics ended up as a 4th seed. Boston beat Cleveland, who had been the #1 seed 2 years in a row. This just proved that had KG not been injured, they would have beat Cleveland the prior year because Orlando had beat them. They had a rematch with Orlando. This time KG was back, Boston went up 3-0 then sealed the deal in 6. In the finals, Boston took a 3-2 lead against the Lakers. In game 6, Perkins had a season ending injury. If you watched basketball back then, then you'd know how much of a problem Perkins was at controlling the boards and paint. With Perkins gone, Boston got killed on the boards and paint, which led to them losing.
Like Doc said, the starting lineup of Rondo, Ray, Pierce, KG, and Perkins have never lost a playoff series on the floor together. It was always an injury that prevented them from winning another champion. Anyone who watched basketball back then wouldn't criticize them. Only the ignorant people who started watching basketball after 2010. That same Lakers team got beat down by the Mavs the next year, btw.
Also, Ray, KG, and Pierce didn't form a 3 big. Danny Ainge traded for Ray and KG during the draft and summer to build a championship team. Big difference from LeBron running to Miami because he couldn't beat the Celtics to form a big 3 with Wade and Bosh. And it was stated by LeBron that they planned this.
@@ramboslice7322 This is false.
Reggie was competing against Jordan, Payton, Drexler, Stockton ect. for those All NBA guard spots. Amazing
Dwight not making it in is a crime against basketball.
Dame and AD made it in prematurely. I believe they’ll make the 100 list but it’s too premature for them.
Edit: Parker and Manu sacrificed so much for that Spurs dynasty that it hurt their case for an individual award.
Manu was a supporting role player for those championship teams. He was never a franchise player or even 2nd option at any point in his career. It's like making an argument for draymond being a better player than harden.
@@daebak7370 you dont know wtf youre talking about Manu sacrificed his spot and fame. He and greg pop discussed it. He can easily be a starter and play more minutes but he would be less efficient because his playstyle required more energy and risk. So for the good of the Spurs dynasty he came off the bench for instant energy and offense allowing tim and tony more rest.
When the game is close, he was always in the lineup guarding some of the best. Hes not a role player in a traditional sense. The spurs big 3 were Tim, Tony, AND Manu.
@@tien5tri I know Manu could be a starter for teams but he would not be a franchise caliber or #1 option caliber player was my point. He's a good player but very overrated by fans. He's the shooting guard version of draymond.
@@daebak7370 no i disagree. Hes not a draymomd. Hes a kevin mchale, as duncan was to larry bird. Manu was 2nd option after Tim except for that time Tony parker went off in the finals.
I truly believe you can build a team off Manu with his skill and drive and it would be successful. You cant do that with Draymond.
Manu proved that he can be the "Guy" in the olympics
I can't believe 2 things:
1. There weren't 26 players in the past 25yrs better than the 50th best from 25yrs ago
2. And the nba didn't have the balls to release the list in order
I can believe the second one. Perhaps not agree, but believe...
But sure, #1 is baffling
Pretty sure there are plenty of players since 96 that are better but they being nice about it
Pretty sure the original 50 had their spots locked that’s why your first point is like that
And the most ridiculous thing is that there's not a single Center in that new 26.
If this happened in any other era people would say that's not even basketball anymore.
I feel like there was some pre-planned thing going on here. Like maybe voters could only vote for 25 new players, instead of all 75. Because it's quite a coincidence that 11 active players were chosen this time, just like in 1996 when 11 active players were also chosen. Hmm
Some people are forgetting this is called the NBA’s “greatest” players list, not “best”… someone can be great to the game without being the best at the game
Vince Carter was a complete player shooter, defense, dunk, skills. incredible
He had great early years in toronto. But with the nets he was putting up stats but lacked playoff success and he wasnt a winner let’s be real.
Fun fact: None of the 26 players added to the list are centers.
Clearly Dwight deserved a spot there.
This is cold water to the face.
The current state of NBA's priorities in rules & officiating is even wonkier than we ever noticed, because it gradually happened over ten yrs of ~2005-2015.
_In any other era '26 adds and not a single Center' would cause ppl to question what sport are we even talking about._
Most great players who couldve become centers opted for the power forward role so we may as well consider that a substitute for center~
Bob mcadoo is a center.
@@BosnianJesus true. An undersized center, but a center nonetheless. Even though he played some at the 4, his best years were at the 5.
@@shaft9000 jokic will be top 100 when it comes
Bob definitely deserves it. He is the best player to come out of my city and he led the nba in scoring 3 times and was an mvp
100%
I’m with you on the TMAC AND CARTER SNUB!!
Dwight did some amazing things back in Orlando. Took them all the way to the NBA finals. Too bad they had to play that incredible Laker team. Kinda wish he would’ve stayed in Orlando at least another 4-5 years.
I think the question is "what are the criteria a player needs in order to be part of the NBA's top 75?"
Except for a few older NBA players, most people voting are in the current time so there's some bias involved. Lillard shouldn't be on this list by hitting logo 3's, there are people that have done more than him. AD is controversial too, being second best for a championship shouldn't put him above Dwight, Pau Gasol or Tony Parker.
@@EasilyPullingUpFromDeep tf? Havent seen the list but AD is above Tony parker?
@@EasilyPullingUpFromDeep wbu kawhi
That's the unanswered question for all individual awards. Well, and for the NCAA football playoffs as well. The more specific and defined the criteria, the more valid the list. And it seems like none of these awards make any attempt at all beyond a few generalities.
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Chris Webber. He's my #2 top snub after Dwight. Also agree on Vince, T-Mac, Dumars. As a Pistons fan I was happy to see Rodman included. Also IIRC McAdoo and Wilkins were considered the 2 biggest snubs from the 50th list so that got righted. Also they included players who could've been like Shaq and be on the 50th list like Payton and Reggie.
His championship was stolen from him and consequently his spots on all time rankings.
Yeah. In Webber's case, playing in the same era as Pau, KG, Duncan and Dirk will get you overlooked, sadly.
Agreed. I’d put Dwight, CWeb and Vince in the list instead of Davis, Ray Allen, and Lillard.
@@andreisevostianov9525 Ray Allen are you kidding? did you not follow the man's career?
Klay Thompson is more deserving than overrated Reggie Miller, and CWebb's prime was too short to be on the list....Earl Monroe shouldn't be there either
Another "what if " for D.Rose had he not gotten injured and Bulls continued to be dominant during his stay
@Fries DRose better get into the Hall of Fame. They put players like Tmac, Mitch Richmond, and Joe Dumars in so DRose should get in without question.
And here's a legit question for you: what did Allen Iverson accomplish in his career that Derrick Rose didn't accomplish?
@Fries i agree with everything you just said. I would just like to clarify tgat i wasn't trying to imply that Iverson doesn't belong in the hof. I was just asking what did he accomplish to deserve the hof that DRose didn't accomplish. Because if you look at tgeir accomplishments side by side, they're very similar: Rookie of the year, MVP, led their respective teams to the best record in the league. And as you said Iverson did lead the league in scoring and steals which Rose has never done. But in terms of actual hardware and awards that can be accomplished in the NBA, I'm pretty sure Rose has accomplished everything that Iverson has
The vibe on this video is fire
Man, Klay Thompson even getting snubbed from a YT snub list of the top 75 lol
Fr tho Klay, the 2nd greatest shooter of all time getting snubbed is criminal
@@icupnibba3533 a HOT Klay Thompson is THE BEST SHOOTER I'VE EVER SEEN, including steph curry. This dude put up 37 points in ONE quarter, he almost SINGLEHANDEDLY saved the warriors from elimination in game 6 against the thunder in 2016, and he has broken or tied the most threes in a single game record a few times now. I kinda understand him getting snubbed tho. All his individual success happened when he always had better players than him on his team
Setting the record for 3s in one game should’ve been enough to get him in the conversation. Also setting the record for 3s in a playoff game should’ve solidified it. Idc if Dame took it, he set a precedent
@@whodat787 idk bro, I think him and Steph are realistically neck and neck on that squad. Ik it’s a hot take. Steph’s a lil better as a shooter and is the offensive focal point, but Klay offers almost the same threat and also is a defensive beast
@@squidtortellini559 klay is a much better defender than steph is, no question there. But klay can't create his own offense for himself the way that steph can. Steph's ball handling and finishing ability allows him to create his own shot whenever he wants to, and klay can't quite do that. That's what puts steph above klay imo
Pau Gasol should definitely be on this list. Other than Dirk and Giannis, he's probably the GOAT of European basketball.
Sabonis. If you would put him court today, he would be taller Jokic, with a better jump shot also!
It's too bad Sabonis and Nikos Galis never got to show off in the NBA during their primes. We have only bits such as Olympic-era Sabonis, or Galis schooling a young MJ in an exhibition game.
While Drazan Petrovic was taken IN his prime.
@@shaft9000 amen 🙏🏻 to that
@@shaft9000 who's nikola. Never heard of him. Is he a another dude who's career got ruined due to injuries?
No fucking way should that flopper be top 200.
Man, I don't know why McAdoo is just added in. He's basically the best Clippers player of all time...
For the next list I believe that Donovan Mitchel will be in. T-Mac, Carter and Dwight should be in the list though as well as D-Rose youngest player who ever to won the MVP, but I guess he didn't have the longevity.
Donovan? I doubt 😕
I can't believe they left Dwight Howard off, just made it a pure popularity contest.
T-Mac led teams are always eliminated in the 1st round. Before the big 3 both Allen and Pierce led their teams in the eastern conference finals even when Allen was traded to the Sonics he led his team to the West semis.
Paul had Antoine Walker another All Star and Ray Allen played Glen Robinson All star and Sam Cassell an Elite Pg at the time…Carter and Tmac best counterparts were old veteran guys or young and inexperienced. If they stuck together in Toronto were looking at completely different spectrum of Vince Carter and Tmac today, they would have had a better team they were individually better than Paul Pierce and Ray Allen
When was it Tmac was supposed to win?
Tmac had bad teams and in his peak was considered better than kobe. A top 11 player all time and you sittng here making fun of a legend because of his front offices 🤣
@@scottiedpoy8508 he didn't need a ring to prove himself, or even a finals appearance, but look at how weak the east was. Shaq, Duncan, Nowitzki, Garnett, Kobe, and Nash were all out west. If TMac were as good as billed, that means he was the best player in his conference. The next best being Kidd? It's not like he ran into a buzz saw Boston big 3, or the Wade & Shaq Heat. He couldn't beat a Hornets team with Mashburn in street clothes, and nobody headed for Springfield. In Houston he had Yao, Artest or Ariza, Battier, and got Utah as first round draw twice. How sorry an opponent did he need to win a series? If you can only win against cardboard cutouts, or when you have multiple Hall of fame teammates, are you really an all timer? He chose Orlando, and as soon as he left Toronto his cousin did win a playoff series.
@@75aces97 Orlando is a job he signed up for an had grant hill break down on him halfway through the first season. You suggesting a bad roster thats also missing a guy whom at one point was considered the future goat should be winning chips? You suggesting basketballs a 1 v 1 sport? I dont subsrcibe to the notion if you had 1 guy in the east you auto win. Anytime you got a high paid player getting paid to rehab/come back and is a shell of former self, you tend to lose more games. Its 5 v 5 sport with best players around the world , each getting paid their worth to keep teams even and you think teamates dont matter or losing a 1A 1B guy dont matrer? Im kind of baffled you expected more of that magic team. Anyway, i not even sitting here saying tmacs the greatest. Im just laughing at the dude for putting down a legend based off B.S. Kobe literally called tmac the taller version of himself and he was that guy everyone thought was something special when they played him. Have you ever seen him play? That man came in as a defender and turned into tall Kobe. "Tmac lead teams that were always eliminated in the first round", i never suggested tmac was the GOAT or anything. Im just pointing out how dumb that statement is
@@75aces97 Shaq, duncan, kobe, nash arent teams by the way. Those are just players. Kidd is also, just a player. If kidd is with gleaguers he is probably a less winning player than if he had a good solid nba players around him
Vince, because of his *IMMENSE IMPACT on the game, the league and the fans.* NBA blew up INTERNATIONALLY even more during the peak of his popularity. Like MJ and AI, a lot of people tried to copy his swag, his style, his gestures, the scowl, the way he played, the way he moved. ESPN highlights reached EXPLODED during the Vinsanity era. The words "It's Over" and "Posterized". Best selling jersey. Shox. Headband. Plus ROY, Slam Dunk title AND REVIVAL of the dunk contest, 25k points, longevity (decades!), most allstar votes, Olympics gold & that "Dunk of Death". And people even forget the *most underrated part of his game, he actually made a lot of clutch baskets* throughout his career. People forget about that because he never got to play in the Finals and make a clutch shot in a championship game. Vince is basically Dominique version 2.0. Dominique is on the list, Vince should also be on the list. Kobe is MJ version 2.0. Wade is AI version 2.0. Shaq is Wilt 2.0. They're all on the list, so Vince should also be there if we were to base it on that.
Besides Parker, Ginobili, and Gasol its crazy that Ben Wallace, Chauncey Billups, and Chris Bosh aren't on here. Then you could also add Greg Ostertag, Rudy Gobert, Jeff Hornacek, Andrei Kirilenko, Toni Kukoč, Robert Horry, Rajon Rondo. All better than Damian and Melo
So just checked. Moncrief, Howard, Mutombo and big Ben own more than one third of all DPOY awards ever given. None of those guys got in. Damn. These voters really hated defense.
None of the guys tied with the most Defensive player of the year titles got in... Sure, they had bad (perhaps pitiful) offensive stats. But only 1 DPOY behind them is Dwight, with an average of 20(+) points in his carreer. You can remove the argument of "all defense, no offense" and still didn't make it. They probably overlooked defense accomplishments entirely.
Defense is great but by itself it's not going to make you "great"
With that said i hate that some ppl like harden and melo made it. Those guys play hardly any D.
Imo it should be a mixture. You shouldnt be consider some of the greatest playing only 50% of the game.
@@tien5tri Yeah, but at least Harden produces efficiently and is a good assist man. Melo only just shoots a lot.
That was a great point about everybody knowing Tmac and Vince were better than Ray and Paul, that was definitely the case
lol
Better and greater are two different things and winning is very important for the later.
@@ursula3438 great point. As far as pure physical talent Tmac and Vince were better and had a more freakishly athletic and fan friendly play style. But Ray and pierce (especially Ray) just knew how to play winning basketball more then Vince and tmac
Yep, I remember VC used to cook Pierce and Allen on the regular. Pierce, Allen and KG just had the good fortune of uniting on the Celtics to win a ring, which greatly enhanced their legacies.
I'm really surprised that AD is in the list in 75, damn.
You know what, I’m a massive Lakers/AD fan but even I was surprised he made the list 🤷♀️
Dwight should def be up here before AD that shit is crazy lol they got the ring the same time and dwight had taken his team to the finals before and AD hasnt taken a team to a conference finals!
6:19 A RARE video of McAdoo actually passing the ball.Growing up in the Bronx in the 70s when a dude always shot the ball we called him McAdoo.
T-Mac, Vince, Dwight, Chris Webber and Tony Parker were locks for top 75. So disrespectful
That is a good list
Manu Ginobili 2
Completly mindblown.. How can Vince Carter not be on this list? Greatest dunker of all time ?!
No actual accolades tho
A lot of guys from the original top 50 just don’t cut it in the top 75 and I gotta say some snubs were harsh
Tony Parker(Finals MVP), Chauncey Billups(Finals MVP), Kyrie Irving, DRose(MVP) over Damian Lilliard
Lillard is 10x the player of any of those guys. Be real.
While I understand there are only 25 spots, and SO MANY great players, it still hurts to see all these legends of the game get forgotten.
a total of 26 players were added...
those who made it in 96...the all time greatest 50 were etched in stone...removing them from the list is downright disrespectful...
we won't forget them
There is nothing suprising at all about bob mcadoo on the list he's extremely respected
He's the NBA 50 version of Dwight - Dwight gets in on the 100 I think.
dwight definitely subbed.
Allen also is the 2nd best 3-Point-Shooter of all time and was for a couple of years Number 1. That, too, gives him an added edge, I think. And 2 rings.
i think lillard and Anthony Davis has recency bias on their side. but i would take Pau instead of AD. AD is top 75 talent, not player IMO. also i would take VC or Tmac over ray allen. but dwight was probably the biggest snub
Pau??? Hahaha... I remember in 08 09 when Pau averaged 17p and 9r and was considered "one of the best big men in the NBA" while Shaq also averaged 17 and 9 and was considered "washed up" haha
Nah, Pierce and Allen deserve to be over VC and Tmac, is not just the 2008 chip, they also were very close for 5 years. Plus Pierce got to the CF in 2001 also and Ray with Milwaukee in 2000. It's not even close their playoff success with VC and Tmac.
I would've taken AD off the list. Its not his time yet. Wallace, Mutombo, Parker, Bernard King and Manu deserve to be on that list
Remove AD and put Dwight in there.
Agree on almost all points except for Vince or Tracy over Allen. I also think Tony Parker belongs on the list...Nash never even made it to the finals, he also didn't deserve those 2 MVP...Mike D's system makes every PG look like a legend:...Linsanity, Nash, Harden...it's just a huge assist boost over other systems...but this system won't work in the playoffs...we've seen it again and again....
Dwight definitely deserved in. This man was a TANK, loved him in the dunk contests too. He deserves to be on there no doubt. I'm gonna get flack for this, but I think Rondo and J.Crawford deserve to be on there.
Rondo should but not Jamal
@@SANDMAN_7 best sixth man of all time tho? Not trying to tussle by the way.
@@crashbandicoot5636 yeah I’m not either just saying would u say he’s one of the best of all time?
@@SANDMAN_7 Rondo has been on like 9 teams the last 8 years FOH. Top 75 journeyman 🏅
I'm sorry but Crawford isn't anywhere near the list, even the difference between Crawford and rondo is huge
I was a kid un the 90s lived in Detroit AND evritime the Pistons played the Pacers. Damed Regué was a monster
Damian lillard over guards like Tony Parker and Rajon Rondo is one of the biggest crimes I’ve seen and I like lillard, Dwight and Dikembe not being on it for Centers is criminal too
When was the last time a center was the best player on an NBA finals team? Dwight Howard. It's insane that he was left off. 4-time DPOY that was also great offensively
The scariest thing about DH is that if he had followed all the suggestions that Charles Barkley had made on NBA Live on TNT back 10+ years ago on how to improve his offensive game, DH would have been a more muscular, faster, more agile and powerful version of Shaq!
Artis Gilmore, Bob Lanier, Sidney Moncrief, Adrian Dantley and Alonzo Mourning were also snubbed.
Video nailed it, at the time no one would've picked pierce over tmac or vince.
Glad that Nash is on the list. Had it not been for his two well-deserved mvps they probably wouldn't have included him even though he's probably the best point guard of all time. It's well known how much Shaq and the gang in nba don't like Nash. Because of his mvps they just couldn't ignore him.
Mitch Richmond was another player overlooked because he was on bad teams. But he averaged at least 22 points a game in his first TEN seasons. Look at the list of players who have done that. It’s pretty damn small.
He made the playoffs in 4 of his 13 years, only once as his team's best player. Yes, he was saddled with some bad teams (and yes, getting traded for Billy Owens just as he hit his prime is one of the worst forgotten trades ever), but great players can elevate thin teams. Hell, Ewing carried a rotation with 3 recent CBA (G-League precursor) players into the finals, and almost never gets recognition for it.
I’m pretty sure it’s easier to score when you are on a bad team. Still impressive though.
Mitch Richmond is one of the most underrated players ever.
I think Reggie was chosen because of how he was able to carry the pacers and you cant think of the pacers without Reggie Miller. Like wilkins to the hawks
I understand your point but Reggie didn’t carry them anywhere.
@@scottfree7089 Carry them to the finals lol 😆 and the Pacers was a longtime top 3-4 in Eastern because of him
@@jimmykarlsson2567 That was Jalen Rose’s year and Reggie had a decent squad around him. Reggie was an 18 - 3 and 3 guy. All those years in the league and couldn’t make it happen. Nah. Clutch at times but that’s it.
@@denondj1234 Jalen Rose was a bench player in the 90s. Nahh the Pacers where Reggies team all the way
@@jimmykarlsson2567 Reggie was 2nd in scoring. Jaylen came off the bench and beat him in scoring.
Lillard is LOVED by greg Popovich and NBA inders, especially for his olympic/FIBA contributions. he was named captain of the team. When Kobe and James opted out of world games, Lillard carried USA on his little back. So that must have done great INFLUENCE for his inclusion case.
I just knew you were gonna call out Carmelo. Didn't see the whole list but I saw Carmelo and was like "It's him, isn't it?"
About Reggie. I think you left out an important point. Reggie's clutch shooting and leadership for the Pacers were also probably considered., the highlights and stats don't say enough about what he did for that franchise. Not top 50 but 75 is a no brainer to me.
Not top 200
I'm fine with keeping everyone from the original list, imagine in 50 years people asking who Kobe was and wanting to take him out, some respect is deserved
So instead leave out younger dudes that could easily have an argument for being on the list? I understand the respect but the new guys that WOULDVE made it deserve respect too
@@alexescutia4805 Many will be left out, snubs gonna happen, just saying I'm not cool with taking out Paul Arizin or Dolph Schayes for Tmac and Pau Gasol for example, because people will want to take Kobe out for new guys decades from now
@@emmanuelgarcia7176 kobe is disrespected as well. Don't Forget alex English and dantley also macaques Johnson a underrated pf
The Dominique Wilkins snub was SCANDALOUS for the 50th anniversary- so glad he got his due
and bob mcadoo
I'm just seeing the list for the first time and there's definitely a recency bias. I'm wondering how Dominique Wilkins didn't make the initial list? He was one of the best players in the East for a decade. I also think that including Damian Lillard might be a good example of the recency bias that I spoke of. I haven't thought about it but I'm sure I can think of a player from the last 25 years who has done more than Damian Lillard and for longer. This is 100% nothing against Damian Lillard who is a great player but one of the NBA's best 75 of all time is a bit of a stretch.
Give justice to the greatness of Manu and Tony💪
Still neither of them come close to being top 75. They're not greater than Lillard.
I love those guys but there's isn't enough room for them. They got rings and are first ballot HOFers.
@@guesswhonot1620 they did more then dame and they had the wrong people picking the players
@@ericfinch7392 First of all, let's see Tony or Manu get handed the keys to a franchise for 9 years and see how much success THEY would have without the GOAT power forward.
Second, wtf you mean they had the wrong people picking the players?!
@@blackphillip564 Neither of them would even be considered first ballot HOFers if it wasn't for the stuff they did outside the NBA.
Without excluding any old timers, there was so little room to work with so except the snub of Dwight I can't really argue with it.
I'm a celtics fan and I still think Vince and tracy are down right have more raw talent than pierce and ray allen. Like AndyHoops said, alot of it has to do with winning championships.
2004 detroit pistons starting 5.
billups,hamilton,wallace b. wallace r. tyson prince..
also snubs.