South Korea vs Japan: Who owns Dokdo/Takeshima?
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- The Dokdo (sometimes Tokdo) or Takeshima rocks (also known as the Liancourt rocks) have been one of the major obstacles in the development of Korean-Japanese relations for decades. In 2021, the conflict made headlines when Japan released a map for its 2020 olympic games, supposedly showing the rocks as Japanese territory, which sparked outrage across South Korea. Although this small territorial dispute has been a frequent topic of public discussion in both Japan and South Korea, it is relatively unknown outside the region.
The current dispute originated in 1905, however its roots stretch back much further than that. Since 1954, the rocks have been de facto controlled by South Korea, however Japan continues to claim that this is an illegal occupation. In this video we take a closer look at the conflict: Where does it come from? How did it develop? And what drives South Korea and Japan in this dispute?
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Music:
Impertinence (by Joel Cummins)
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Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
0:28 What is the conflict about?
1:33 Dokdo/Takeshima's economic value
3:16 Dokdo/Takeshima's strategic value
3:44 Dokdo/Takeshima's symbolic value
4:35 Early history (Korean perspective)
6:50 Early history (Japanese perspective)
7:19 First conflict over the rocks
7:59 19th century developments
8:58 Japanese control until 1945
10:18 San Francisco Peace process
11:59 South Korean control until today
13:07 Increasing importance of the conflict
15:04 Effects on South Korea and Japan
17:10 Outro
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Sources:
Bridges, Brian (1993) Japan and South Korea in the 1990s: From Antagonism to Adjustment. Aldershot: Elgar.
Bukh, Alexander (2015) Shimane Prefecture, Tokyo and the territorial dispute over Dokdo/Takeshima. In: The Pacific Review 2015, (1).
Hara, Kimie (2006) Cold War Frontiers in The Asia Pacific: Divided territories in the San Fransisco System. London: Routledge.
Koo, Min Gyo (2010) Island Disputes and Maritime Regime Building in East Asia: Between a Rock and a Hard Place. Dordrecht: Springer.
Wiegand, Krista E. (2015) The South Korean-Japanese security relationship and Dokdo/Takeshima. In: The Pacific Review 2015, (3).
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#korea #japan #conflict
A big thank you to Teabag, the Korean artist who contributed his art to this video which you can enjoy between 5:24 - 7:45. Without his help, this project would have taken even longer. I highly recommend you check out his Twitter here: twitter.com/elpg1576
Beautiful art.
nice art
wow only two replies
i mean three
Korea rejected proposal of ICJ. Maybe they understand they become loser.
당연히 일본의 땅입니다.
하지만 한국은 인정하지 않을 것입니다.
한국은 원래 남을 내리고 자신을 올리는 나라니까요.
한국의 유튜브는 타국을 비난하고 조롱하고 자국을 찬양하는 영상들이 수억단위의 누적 조회수를 가진 채널들이 수백개 있는 나라입니다.
한국을 조심하세요.
Koreans can go to Dokdo without passports.
Koreans can't travel to the north of the Korean peninsula even if they have a passport.
@@Kihaji-h5y South Koreans don't need a passport to go to North Korea. We need approval from the MOU, and that's it.
@@Kihaji-h5ywhat you need to go there is not a passport but a gun hahaha
Now Russian can go to Crimea without passport,so it's Russian's land?
@@Kihaji-h5yyes because it’s foreign land. That’s why Japanese can’t enter Dokdo without Passeport
Korea:
- Claims Dokdo via Old Maps and documents
- The islands represent Korea's official independence from brutal colonial rule
- Does not go the ICJ because it currently owns the rocks(de facto) and has everything to lose at ICJ
Japan:
- Claims the Old Maps and documents presented by Korea are fake or misinterpreted
- The islands represent how Japan is being exploited after WW2
- Wants to take thinks to ICJ because it is only way to gain control over Takeshima
Both:
Dokdo/Takeshima extends their maritime borders, thus giving them more access to potential resources found in the waters. So there is still a slight economic gain from working these islands.
Actually Japan does not even recognize old maps produced domestically.
자료가 진짜 조사를 많이 했다는게 느껴질정도로 풍부하네요
다른 나라들의 역사를 이렇게 열심히 찾아보시다니..
정말 역사 탐구에 열정이 있으신 분, 만약 팀이라면 팀인 것 같네요
이모든게 상징성 때문이란것도 맞는 것 같아요
많이 찾아보셔서 지식 그 정도로 뒷받침할 수 있으니 의견도 자신있게 내시는거겠죠?
정말 멋있습니다
Really enjoyed this! Thanks for explaining sick a complex issue in such an entertaining way!!
We are Korean🇰🇷Dokdo is japan🇰🇷🌷🇰🇷🌷🇰🇷🌷🇰🇷🌷🇰🇷🌷🇰🇷
@@fcwgsvfmjbgq3214 He is Japanese
다케시마를 돌려주세요
@@user-tq4kc5mz6t 네 안돌려줍니다.
아니지, 안 줍니다
안녕하세요~ 한국인입니다. (번역하기 쉬운 말투를 사용하여 한국어가 자연스럽지 않을 수 있습니다.)
독도는 명백히 한국의 땅입니다.
지금부터 제가 독도가 한국 땅인 이유와 일본 측이 주장하는 근거를 반박해보도록 하겠습니다.
(이 글에 수정사항이 있어 2022년 3월 12일 기준으로 수정하였습니다)
첫번째로, 지리적인 이유입니다.
맞습니다. 한국 본토와 독도 사이의 거리는 216.8km이고 일본 본토와 독도 사이의 거리는 212km로 더 가깝습니다.
만약 당신이 이래서 독도가 일본 땅이라고 생각했다면, 당신은 멍청한 생각을 한 것입니다
독도는 한국의 섬인 울릉도와 87km 떨어져있고, 일본의 섬인 오키제도와 158km 떨어져있어 한국 땅입니다.
애초에 독도와 가장 가까운 섬이랑과의 거리를 측정해야하는데, 일본 정부에서 어설프게 진실된 자료로 사람들을 속이니
한숨이 쉬어지는군요.
둘째로, -신라 시대 때, -1900년대, -1906년 3월 29일,
-1520년, -18세기 후반, , -프랑스 지리학자 '당빌"이 제작함
에서 우산도(오래 전 한국이 사용하였던 독도의 명칭)는 한국의 영토라고 증명하였습니다.
셋째로, 일본이 독도가 한국 땅임을 인정한 자료들입니다.
1667년, 일본이 독도를 처음 알게되어 적은 문헌인
에서
''은주는 북해 가운데에 있는데 오키섬이라고 한다.
술해 사이를 두낮 한밤가면 마츠시마가 있다.
또 한낮거리에서 독도(다케시마)가 있다.
이 두섬에는 사람이 살지 않는데
고려를 보는 것이 마치 운주에러 은주로 보내는 것 같다.
그러므로 일본의 건지는 이주를 끝으로 삼는다''
라고 적혀있습니다.
무슨 의미냐고요?
쉽게 말해 일본의 북서쪽 경계를 오키섬(이주)으로 삼는다는 말입니다.
여기서 '이주'는 나고야 대학의 교수인 이케우치 사토시 교수가 오키섬을 가리킨다고 논문을 발표했고 현재 아무도 이를 반박한 사람은 나오지 않고 있다고 합니다.
즉, 일본은 독도를 처음부터 자신의 땅이 아니라고 인정했습니다.
이뿐만 아니라 일본은
-메이지 정권이 1877년 3월 29일 독도가 한국 영토임을 인정하였습니다.
-1695년 12월 일본 막부에서 울릉도와 독도가 돗토리번 소속이 아니라고 하여,
일본 어부들에게 고기잡이를 못하게 하였습니다.
-8세기, -1962, -1877, -1821, , , -1655 등 공식 지도에 독도와 울릉도가 포함되어 있지 않습니다.
그리고 일본은 에 독도가 있다고 주장하는데, 이건 정부가 만든게 아니라
나가쿠보 세키스이가 개인적으로 만든건 아시죠?
심지어 는 위도 경도마저 엉터리인 지도입니다.
또한 일본이 우기고 있는 에서 대놓고 일본이 독도를 부를 때 사용했던 죽도와 송도라는 명칭으로 독도가 한국의 영토 색과 같은색으로 색칠되어 있습니다.
네번째 이유입니다.
1945년 7월 26일, 포츠담 선언 내용입니다. 이 선언에서는, 독도가 포함되어 있지 않았습니다.
1946년 1월 29일, 연합국총사령부 지침의 내용입니다. 일본은 혼슈, 규슈, 홋카이도, 시코쿠와 인접한 약 1000개의 섬들을
일본이 통치할 수 있다고 정하였지만, 울릉도와, 독도, 제주도는 일본 영토에서 제외한다고 명시되어 있습니다.
다섯째로 한국은 512년부터 우산국이라는 나라를 이사부가 정벌하여 합법적으로 실효지배를 하고있었습니다. 그러다가 한국은 그 곳에 살고있던 주민들의 세금을 걷기 힘들다는 이유로 독도에 빨리 나와라고 했죠. 이는 조선 조정이 시행했던 쇄한 정책입니다.
하지만 17세기 중반이 되어서야 독도를 제대로 안 일본은 이 상황도 모르면서 이 곳이 무주지라고 우기는 것이죠.
이는 삼국사기에 기록되어있는 내용이랍니다.
'세종실록지리지에도 독도가 한국 땅이다'...... 등등 훨씬 많은 근거들 입니다.
그러면 이제 일본측의 근거도 살펴봐야 할 때이지요??
1. 대한민국 영토는 대한민국 국민이라면 자유롭게 방문할 수 있어야하는데, 독도는 한국인이 접근 불가능한 섬입니다.
→한국이 독도를 천연 기념물로 지정해 놓았는데 어떻게 방문합니까??
2. 울릉군청에는 독도의 공시지가 없습니다.
→현재, 공시지가를 발표하고 있습니다.
또한, 울릉도 심흥택의 보고서에 의하면 이미 100여년 전부터 확실하게 울릉도에 속한 섬이라도 했습니다.
3. 시마네현이 독도를 일본 영토에 편입하기 이전에 일본 어민이 독도를 경영하고 있었습니다.
→사실에 맞지 않는 이야기입니다. 위에 설명드린 자료로 설명 가능합니다. 또한, 시마네현이 출처가 불분명해 국제적인 효력이 없는 건 아시고 계시죠?
4. 사람이 살지 않는 땅인 독도를 먼저 영토에 편입시켜 세상에 알린 것은 일본이므로 선점권에 의해 국제법상으로 독도는 일본의 영토입니다.
→러일 전쟁 때, 일본이 침탈하여 일본 어민들이 독도에 들어올 수 있도록 한 것은 사실이나, 일본 영토로 편입시킨다는 조항은 없었습니다. 정확히는 몇 개의 조건을 빠뜨렸습니다.)
5. 센프란시스크 조약에 의하여 독도는 일본땅입니다.
→ 미국은 여러차례 끝에 결국 독도를 한국과 일본 모두에게 독도를 편입시키지 않았기에 오히려 독도가 일본 땅이 아님을 인정하는 한국측의 증거가 될 수 있습니다. 제677호 제3항을 제대로 읽어보시지요.
6. 태정관 지령에는 독도라고 정확히 적혀있지 않습니다. 한국측이 문서를 왜곡하여 읽은 것입니다.
→누가 왜곡을 한 것입니까? 초안을 수정한 결과 최종본에서 독도의 표기가 달라진 것을 보아 이가 독도를 명시한다는 것을 인정하는 결과를 낳았습니다. (외1도)
7. 왜 한국이 ICJ에 나오지 않을까요?
→ 일본이 너무 멍청해서 한국이 국제법을 위반했다고 주장하는 것이다. 한국은 이에 가입할 때 다른나라와 달리 양측이 모두 ICJ에 찬성할 때에만 재판이 열린다. 즉, 한국으로서 구지 이런 위험을 감수할 필요없기 때문에 재판을 열지 않는 것이다. 제발 한국의 입장부터 똑바로 읽어보았으면 좋겠다.
사실 독도가 한국 땅인 이유는 이보다도 훨씬 많을 것입니다.
저는 독도가 일본 땅이라는 주장은 명백히 틀렸다는 것을 알려주고 싶었습니다.
아시다시피 일본은 한국의 영토를 많이 빼앗았고, 한국의 문화유산도 많이 없앴습니다.
대표적으로, 대마도는 원래 조선(한국)의 땅이었습니다. 저도 대마도에 대해서는 잘 모르지만, 대충 127가지의 근거가 있다고 합니다.
또한 석유 매장량이 6000조원 (사우디아라비아의 10배로 추정) 가까이 되는 7광구마저도 대륙봉을 기준으로
하였던 영토 기준이 일본에게 유리한 국제법으로 바뀌어 7광구의 90%를 일본이 차지하게 되는 어처구니 없는 상황도 벌어지고
있습니다. 뭐, 일본이 평상시에 행동하는 것 처럼, 국제법이 바뀌고 난 뒤부터 한국과 개발을 하지 않고 일본이 그 땅을
다 소유하려는 욕심 때문에, 조항을 어기면서까지 이기적인 행보를 보이고 있습니다.
(조항에 'shall'이라는 단어에 의해 위법이라고 하네요)
독도가 한국 땅임을 일본이 인정하는 날이 왔으면 좋겠습니다.
제발 한국을 그만 괴롭혀주면 좋겠습니다.
그리고 일본이 뇌물을 얼마나 먹였는지
구글이 다케시마라고 쓰고 일본해라고 표기를 하는데, 정말 일본이라는 나라가 양심이 있었으면 좋겠다라는 생각 밖에안듭니다.
또한, 일본은 중국과 러시아 등에도 땅을 우기고 있습니다. 뺏으면 좋고 실패해도 잃을게 없다는 논리인지 이해가 안가네요.
제발 착하게 사십시오.
A very well-made, entertaining, and informative video for the size of your channel. Hope you get the following you deserve.
Not dokdo takeshima is japan island. japan occupy korea and there is a definite document.
czcams.com/video/KPJPC0S5bxk/video.html
Recently found out your channel liked it and even subscribed pls make more videos like these
thank you. I love your videos and watch them during lunch break!
what a neat video. great watch!
Amazing content!! Thank you
I can't wait!
There is actually one source of fresh water that was found on the islands. Also there was technically a permanent population on the islands for some years consisting of an elderly couple
This is very good and instructive i really appreciated it
Loved the video
Finally after months
How do you have the flag of the kingdom of usan guk?
Japan: those are my islands
S. Korea: Those are my islands
China: As you can see on this old Chinese map, those are my island
😂😂😂😂😂
@赤霞 imagine taking a joke seriously, smh
@GamerGrey林 too tiny
@赤霞 It is a joke man, chill
_british empire joined the chat_
Great video. Very underrated channel.
Can't wait!
Same
Fantastic channel!
enjoyed the video, the background music could use some work though (repetitive and a bit annoying)
Big fan of rocks personally
I’m more of a boulder guy myself, pebbles are a maybe
40th like
Not a rock, it's island. It has nation, Korea. Just want leave Dokdo alone😭
Just like the uk
I'm a big fan of the rock
i love your video so much.
The Korean Taegukgi has changed four times, so it was different in color than it is now. Thank you for expressing this so well.
但都是从中国的太极和八卦上改的 还改成了凶卦😂😂😂，别不承认这是事实
@@Stealingcultureisadisgrace. G.C.D.C
@@Stealingcultureisadisgrace. ㅋ라고 중국인이 주장하네
@@Stealingcultureisadisgrace.China claims everything is made in China except COVID-19 🤣
@@Stealingcultureisadisgrace.free taiwan🇹🇼 your social credit : -999999😂
This video rocks
8:16
It’s interesting that you didn’t include the Tsingtao region which was a German colony in China right next to Korea. Germany also led the occupation forces after the Boxer uprising. Especially those two factors heavily challenged the closed and isolated policy of Korea.
He also points Netherlands in Formosa(Taiwan),but it’s not in 19th century
I was expecting a topic that was more interesting but still good video
Amazing!
Yay!
"Are you playing with your rocks again, Hank?"
"Jesus Christ Marie! They're Minerals!"
apan is evil country! JAPANESE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS STILL VISITS SHRINE FOR THE WW2 DEAD SOLDIERS ANNUALLY!
GERMANS DON'T GO VISIT ADOLF HITLER'S GRAVE AND PRAY FOR HIM......
Gigachad
But love the use of the ball animation to make history videos. It's a really cool and simple way to explain through this form of animation. Get it up guys I REALLY ENJOY IT. It makes learning history fun and entertaining. 😊😊😊
Can you make the San Andres Islands dispute between Colombia and Nicaragua next?
a new episode
Thank you for the video, I saw other ones with Korea (Nokdundo,Gando..) and hoped that many people would like to have an interest on Eastern countries' relationship.
Glad you enjoyed them!
Actually they can be of significant military value. Radars that otherwise would need aircraft or ships patrolling. SAMs, SSMs and possibly ABMs can be quite useful forward deployed, in Japan's case at least whereas South Korea is mostly focused on reuniting with North Korea through conquest.
After waiting for a long time
Interesting
apan is evil country! JAPANESE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS STILL VISITS SHRINE FOR THE WW2 DEAD SOLDIERS ANNUALLY!
GERMANS DON'T GO VISIT ADOLF HITLER'S GRAVE AND PRAY FOR HIM......
nice video ^^
helped lots
Rocks, they make good disputes, and can be made in china
Korea and Japan are developed, wealthy countries. However, their territory is too small compared to their national power. They will pay any price except war if they can get land, even it is the desert or permafrost.
1:08 the bird is just chilling
omg i'm laughing so hard, thanks for this video man, your humor is great
bros crying😢 cry about is buddy😢
i wish he'd make a vid on the south china sea dispute
I hope so too! Are they being claimed by like... 7 countries at the same time?
两个都曾经是中国的儿子，只不过现在爸爸换成了美国。
@@user-yw3ig1ki2j ?
This is East Sea not South China sea
@@user-yw3ig1ki2j Historically only Japan attacked China. not vice versa.
Pls make a video on China and USA relation
I was already tryna wipe that damn smudge off…
This dispute as like Russia's dispute with japan for kuril islands
It's not exactly the same. When Japan opened up, it signed treaties with the UK, France, the US and Russia. The North-Eastern border was officially recognised at Etorofu. The reason Japan claims the islands is because there has never been any dispute that they were Japanese. Since 1855, they had been recognised as Japanese. Russia just took them after WW2 because they considered them as part of the Kuril islands that Japan had invaded, when it, in fact, did not. They were always Japanese territories. Unlike the Liancourt rocks, there is a lot of evidence to support Japan's claim. Russia may have a presence on the islands but it's only been there since after WW2, specifically so they could back up their claim, kind of like how they removed the ethnic Germans from East Prussia and replaced them with Russians, hence why those Russians are now hundreds of kilometres from Russian territory
Let’s be honest East Asian countries don’t really have good view of each other due geopolitics, historical events and national pride
Edit: well I created a war in the comment section 😂
@赤霞 East Asia isn't a continent though and it isn't holding them back or anything. I think East Asia will become more relevant as china rises but as other parts of the world will also grow we'll never see total hegemony like the US and Europe had in the past anymore
@赤霞 you mean subcontinent
인정
Iam Korean🇰🇷Dokdo is japan🇰🇷🇰🇷🇰🇷🇰🇷🇰🇷🇰🇷🇰🇷🇰🇷🇰🇷🇰🇷🇰🇷🇰🇷🇰🇷🇰🇷🇰🇷🇰🇷🇰🇷
Why should South Korea continue to play the heroic victim, using the comfort women as a political weapon?
The world will come to understand little by little.
The comment section is very peaceful
Lmao
Imagine how bad it would get when some natural resource like oil was found in the rocks
It has fresh water
It has also methane hydrate
actually, there is
@@Pra_seodymium if you're going to say that it's freshwater I don't want to hear it, I already know I watched the video
@@northstar1727 We don't learn much about freshwater, but instead we learn a lot about natural monuments and methane hydrates
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When will this conflict end?😶
Koreans and Japanese: fighting for a bunch of rock collection
Me, an Argentinian: First time?
lol i acttually laughed but i think its really important situations
Falklands flashback
Well, Since later Japan discovered Dokdo/Lian Court, Both Fishman fought each other.
1) Since the Three Kingdoms Sagi (512), there have been consistent references to Dokdo in Korean (Joseon) ancient literature and old maps, but Japan's Goheon and old maps did not mention Dokdo and said it was not Japanese territory.
2) The Japanese shogunate received a reply from Tottoriburn that Dokdo was not Japanese territory, and in 1696, Ahn Yong-bok of Joseon visited Oki Island in Japan and received a reply that Dokdo was Joseon territory.
3) On October 25, 1900, Emperor Gojong of the Korean Empire enacted the Korean Empire Edict No. 41, which designated Dokdo as an annexed island to Ulleungdo Island, and practically exercised the territory sovereignty of the Republic of Korea after the defeat of the Japanese Empire and liberation.
Dokdo is Korean territory and not a disputed area.
Takeshima is just a dream of the Japanese government
I love how this comment accurately states the history and the current ownership of Dokdo.
People from all countries only believe in information that is beneficial to their country. you are one of them
Yeah I was quite surprised that they introduced almost all Japanese arguments(which states the island was terra nullius when Joseon was extremely weak...), while the Samguk Sagi or Tottori Domain Response. Not to mention that discounting Gojong's effort of defending Dokdo is similar to supporting imperialism.(How do we not know if Japan will also argue that Ulleungdo is theirs?)
The good video
Relatively neutral video. You could probably add some historical Korean documents and Japan's counters against them.
Every time i see dokdo i think of the game that i cant get anymore that i miss dearly
guys this is the dude who had a lot of educations
Japan was deprived of all rights to its overseas colonies after losing World War II.
"how to solve this issue"? Easy: less talking, more shooting.
In the past, Japan wrote that Dokdo had nothing to do with Japan according to the Taejeonggwan directive it made. This is evidence that Japan recognized Dokdo as Korean land, and it is true that Dokdo is close to Korea, and Japan had no relationship with Japan before 1905. It has never been said that Dokdo is Japanese land, but Japan suddenly made an unreasonable claim that Dokdo was an island without an original owner and that it was Japan's inherent territory. The reason Dokdo is Japanese territory is because of the natural resources on Dokdo.
In response, the Japanese side made this objection.
The "Takeshima" in "Takeshima and One Other Island," which was declared irrelevant to Japan in an 1877 Dajokan directive, is not the current Takeshima/Dokdo, but the fictional "Argonaut Island" that was created by a discrepancy in longitude and latitude when French and British navigators surveyed Ulleungdo, and since "One Other Island" refers to Ulleungdo, Japan has not given up the "other one island".
(I am using a machine translation so my English may be flawed)
You make no sense buddy.
@@c_kenma7307 If Japan's claim had been recognized, Takeshima would have been managed by Japan by now. However, Takeshima is currently managed by Korea. This means that Korea's claim, not Japan's claim, was recognized. If Korea has illegally occupied it, Japan or another country's claim has been acknowledged. Government agencies must have also taken action. And when we asked Japanese people if they knew where Takeshima is, most of them responded that they did not know. I think it is wrong to just claim that an island whose location is unknown is their territory.
@@c_kenma7307 “According to the foundation, dozens of ancient maps designating Dokdo as Korean were published by the Japanese government in 1894, 1903, 1929 and 1941.
Japan has insisted that Dokdo was incorporated into Japanese territory through a 1905 notice by Shimane Prefecture. But a number of official Japanese maps produced in 1908, 1925, 1938 and 1951 still show Dokdo as not belonging to Japan.
In addition, about 100 old Western maps and another 100 ancient Korean maps define Dokdo as Korean territory, the foundation noted.”
@@c_kenma7307 dude the word "Takeshima" itself came from the koreans. Takeshima means bamboo island and that is what some koreans used to call Ulleungdo, which is right next to dokdo. You know why no one called dokdo as "bamboo island"? because there's no bamboo on Dokdo. It's funny that you even say that it could be a fictional island because that name actually existed lol.
Like it or not who should have passport when they visit this island?
I've never seen a comment section like this before, wow.
Thanks for the video, I really loved the drawings lol
It's funny how stubborn people can get. I wouldn't risk my friendship for a rock lol
What friendship? It's funny how friends kill each other. Pls study history or read the news. Its funny how stubborn people can get
@@smithgeorge6858 sorry, I forgot that some people don't have any friends.
@@mintysoda9005 sorry it's my bad I didn't expect you to be this uneducated.
@@mintysoda9005 LMAO
海外の皮肉面白い
When a rock is more important than you:
yeah, thats my point. humans are wild
Very important strategic geography
For strategic geography this will increase their ZEE
lots of natural sources under dokdo
So all the promblems came from Japanese's impirical action...right?
no
@@user-lf8jl8rg8e ?
Yes
뭐라는거야
@@user-wu5wx1fi5m 뭘 뭐라는거라니 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 다팩트고 우리쉴드쳐주고 있는데
With oceans rising might not be an issue in a few years time!
interesting.
The meaning of the name of Takeshima lsland is Bamboo Island
dut dokdo lsland, meaning of the name is stone island
On October 25, 1900, Dokdo was officially declared to be incorporated into Gyeonggi Province along with Ulleungdo Island under the order of the king of the Joseon Kingdom (then the Korean Empire)
Bamboo does not grow on Dokdo
Despite the fact that the MacArthur Line had already been drawn in the Treaty of San Francisco, South Korea arbitrarily included Takeshima in a line called the Syngman Rhee Line and began to claim that it belonged to its own country. It is also listed in diplomatic documents published by the US government.
당신 역사적 증거도 보지 않고 말하는거지?
@@user-handsomeflower Just bring it to ICJ.
I know a thief won't go to Court.
@@yantom701 If Korea suddenly claims ownership of Tsushima and bring it to ICJ, will Japan agree? International trials are conducted when a territorial dispute 'exists'.
@@user-gz8ov2xb7j It's a typical childish hypothesis. JPN would have accepted the court battle at ICJ if Kor's territorial claim was issued when Tsushima island became a part of territory of JPN. Meanwhile JPN has been issuing the claim since SKor stole our island in 1954.
You are just found out that you were pretending to know everything related to territorial claim. lol
@@user-gz8ov2xb7j Japan accepted ICJ Article 36-2
Study more about the ICJ system.
So you won't ask this stupid question.
Dokdo is under illegal occupation by Korean forces. Totally different circumstance.
You should feel shame for saying this school kid's theory for a diplomatic issue. anyway, don't scare to go to ICJ and Justice.
The maps from Japan themselves, made before the modern age, shows dokdo as korean territory.
Bro this comment section just sparked another start to a Japan-South Korea cyberwarfare lol
I wanted you to emphasize more from the perspective of international law...
Especially, Treaty of San Francisco, Syngman Rhee Line etc.
I agree. We have to prove that Dokdo Island is clearly Korean land. Ha ha.
@@shp1908bv0-ik koreens have no right stealing more land
At the scapin677, which is a map of NorthEast asia right after Japan's surrender,
>"It recognizes Dokdo/Lian Court as a Korean territory,"<
Right before the Korean war, There was a line that splits communism and capitalist side, which accused the entire Korean peninsula being communism side
>"Alongside Dokdo/Lian Court being communism side as well which means Dokdo/Lian Court has no relations with Japan,"<
At the draft San Francisco treaty article 3,
The Allied and Associated Powers agree that there shall be transferred in full sovereignty to the Republic of Korea all rights and titles to the Korean Mainland territory and all offshore Korean islands, including Quelpart(Saishu To), the Nan how group (San To, or Komun Do) which forms Port Hamilton(Tonaikai), Dagelet Island(Utsuryo To, or Matsu Shima),
>"Liancourt Rocks(Takeshima),"<
and all other islands and islets to which Japan had acquired title lying outside
I hope this answered your question.
@@TriplePistol Ur excuses for illegal occupation on JPN's island is filled with lies.
@@jeanmiyu6904 What is lie is what you obsess in what you want to believe mindlessly.
Ordinary South Korean self-proclaimed experts proudly publish Googled information in CZcams comment sections, but the South Korean government has not responded to Japan's request to discuss the matter at the International Court of Justice. This is the truth.
The Korean government has no intention of making Dokdo a disputed territory from the beginning.
Will Japan discuss the Senkaku Islands issue with China at the International Court of Justice?
Dokdo is completely Korean territory, not a disputed area
@@user-cs1ds8sb9v Since Japan is currently in effective control, it is unlikely that they will sue. If a case were to be brought to the International Court of Justice, it would likely be from the People's Republic of China or the Republic of China (Taiwan).
A book that compiled information on Joseon's territory in the 1300s was made at the order of King Sejong, who was the king at the time, and there is a record of Dokdo and Joseon's territory. Joseon knew the history from the Silla period and recognized it as Joseon's territory along with Ulleungdo Island. And later, to counter Japanese influence, the emperor ordered it in 1905 and officially recorded it as a territorial notation under modern international law along with the official name Dokdo. However, as the video explained, this period was ignored by the international community because Japan was colonizing Joseon, and eventually it continued to this day.
Thank you for a very objective and well made video about the issue, I have a little objection though, and this is the San Francisco Peace treaty, according to the documents available, it seems that the dispute about Liancourt Rocks was indeed on the agenda, and there was several discussions back and forth, but there was a draft of 5 different agreements, including the island and not. The final agreement did NOT include the islands, remember this was the agreement of Japan giving back what they took during the War. If the islands was not included in the official agreement that was signed (Not by any fault of the Japanese, but the western World) this means the island are still Japanese, because the whole of Korea was Japanese. Many aspects of this whole process was unfair to the koreans, because they were not there when this happened, not to any fault of the Japanese, but still not fair.
I do NOT believe that (officially, on paper) that the Liancourt Rocks are Korean, but as a Japanese descendant I strongly believe that Japan as a gesture of friendship, should officially give the islands back to Korea. I do however also believe that the whole reason for Japan's anger around this, was that Korea deliberately invaded the island after the War, just to build on it (Officially illegally) if this would not have happened, I believe that the islands would have been given back to Korea a long time ago.
You seem to have a slight misunderstanding, so I'd like to point it out.
The 1951 San Francisco Peace Treaty was a World War II peace treaty concluded between Japan and 48 Allied nations. A peace treaty is a treaty concluded between belligerent countries declaring the end of war and the restoration of peace. The conditions for peace include the cession of territory, compensation, and the release of prisoners of war.
It is natural that the South Korean government could not attend San Francisco, since South Korea was not a belligerent in World War II. South Korea is a country that was founded on August 15, 1948, and is classified as a "third country."
Japan continues to insist that it did not abandon Takeshima under the San Francisco Peace Treaty. If there is an objection to the Japanese government's claim, only the 48 countries that are signatories to the treaty can file an objection, and the Republic of Korea does not have that right.
The territory of the Republic of Korea was granted by Japan and the 48 Allied Powers. The Republic of Korea's armed occupation of Japan's Takeshima is an act that goes against the international order.
Hello, I am a middle school student living in Korea. First of all, thank you for proving that Dokdo is our land. Internationally, the most important factor in recognizing the territorial sovereignty of a disputed area is not “which country it was on in the past,” but “which country is in effective control (effective display, effectivités) at the time of arbitration.” Based on the standards before and after World War II. As Dokdo is under the effective control of the Republic of Korea, as of now, Dokdo’s sovereignty lies with the Republic of Korea! thank you again
@@Either2923 My dear Korean friend, neither me or the person that commented claim to know the truth, because truth is a matter of perception, but we have rules and regulation and international laws to abide by, and according to international law, The islands are Japanese, both me and the person commenting is stating this, so you have misunderstood our point. The islands are lawfully Japanese, but this does not change the fact that it was unfair and should be changed. I believe that Japan should give the island back to South Korea as a friendly gesture, and I believe that Japan would have done this already if it was not because South Korea had used this as an act of opposition after the war, Korea illegally occupied the island after the war.
@@KenKobayashiRasmussenYou seem to be saying that Dokdo is missing from the islands Japan is supposed to return to Korea in the treaty, but with objection: Korea is an island nation of about 4,000 large and small islands. So should the treaty have mentioned all 4,000 islands?
However, according to this logic, the logic is established that all but three to four islands mentioned in the treaty, such as Ulleungdo and Jeju Island, do not have to be returned.
And the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Korea maintains that Ulleungdo was mentioned in the treaty, and that Dokdo was also returned when Ulleungdo was returned because Dokdo is an annexed island of Ulleungdo.
Using a translator
Japan is still insist Dokdo as its own based on the history when the Republic of Korea under japanese rule.
So Japan saying that Dokdo belongs to them is that they think imperialism is justified.
They are still absolutely not reflecting on the war crimes that they did.
Not insist. Takeshima has been belonging to Japan, and Koare invaded and illegally occupying there. That is just a fact.
You show why Japan need not take Korea's protest about history seriously. For Korea, words like history or war crime are just a tool to justify Korea's territorial ambition.
@LOVELYMEN0207 Do you know how much money the japanese goverment uses in lobbying international facilities😂😂 of course you wouldnt 'cause you're always told lies about your country😂😂 why the hell would korea and russia go into court for their islands when it is obvious that the decision of the court would be decided by money😂😂😂😂
Dokdo has been Korean territory since the Three Kingdoms period. The Three Kingdoms period was from -58 to 658, during which Silla occupied Usan-guk (now Dokdo), and Japan insisted that Dokdo was its land since 1905 after the Russo-Japanese War.
So, whose land do you think this land is?
Dokdo is Korea 🇰🇷
Rocks pirate? Baltigo archipelago??
Dokdo is a korean island. The word Takeshima means island with bamboos. But they are none. Originally Ulleungdo was called takeshima . Ppl in korea used to call dokdo 죽도 which means big island. But 죽도 can be also translated to be bamboo island(it doesn’t mean that) which means japan named the island after the original korean name which also means that korea found it first
You're right! Because there isn't any bamboo in Dokdo.
That name Takeshima is just wrong translation of Korean island.
싸우는거 지겹지 않아요? 그냥 학술적 자료로써 보는게 좋을 것 같아요..
Anyway, the obvious thing is that Dokdo is under the administration of South Korea. There are some governmental facilities in thay island. And there is a platoon of South Korean police in that island. On the other hand, Japan doesn't have the administrative control over that island. Even the sky over Dokdo/Takeshima is in KADIZ(Korea Air Defense and Identification Zone). So to speak briefly, the island called 'Dokdo' is under the South Korea's de-facto territorial region
Could you explain why Korea is keep on refusing international court? Japan is trying to solve the problem on court but Korea is refusing for 3 times already. Why?
Also during San Francisco Peace conference, it was decided that it belongs to Japan.
Please do more research on the fact. Don’t know where you got the resource from but, I really want to know the reason why Korea is refusing to go on court.
Dokdo belongs to Korea, but Koreans do not want to allow the slightest chance of losing an international trial and being taken to Japan. If we lose, we risk losing our territory. Even if we win, there will be no benefit except recognition. If a court is held that the U.S. is owned by Russia, why would the U.S. accept it if half of the world agrees and half opposes it? Another example is that our cat is ours, and it is not welcome if someone claims it and takes it to court. Koreans think this.
I used a translator. It's the position of Koreans.
And then we recognize Dokdo as a disputed territory, and I don't think that's necessary because Koreans are already living there
@@user-lp8qp3lo4y why would you be worried that you will lose your land? The court would be fair to both countries, and as you say, if Dokdo is actually Korean land you will still have it instead of Japan. Japanese Fishermen were killed because of these islands, so not having a court would mean no benefit to us as well
@@Jaeyun0909if you go by that logic, Antarctica would be Argentinian land.
@@OneandonlyCarpNo they dont need to cuz
Korean dont even think that is problem
Cuz Old japan maps say its korean territory tho
And if korea is illigally occupying the island then Japanese 1910-1945💀💀 We dont hear abt War crime country Brainwashed by Anime
Around the 5th century, the Silla general Isabu occupied Dokdo (Silla = one of the four ancient kingdoms of Korea)
You mistook ulleung do with dokdo
@@mimorisenpai8540 bro ulleungdo tribe had total control over dokdo and Silla took both islands wake up and learn more history
@@mimorisenpai8540no it's dokdo
@@mimorisenpai8540the general attacked Usan, which occupied dokdo
You got the point!
Why did South Korea build on that island even though it is a disputed territory and should be treated with caution?
Tomorrow......
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14:08 "Japanese reactionaries have risen up in: Kyoto, Tokyo, Nara..."
*vic 2 flashbacks intensify*
I am Japanese and I was taught that Takeshima is Japanese territory and I believe so. Well, I don't intend to quarrel here. It's a pity that East Asian countries don't get along with each other because of their political and historical backgrounds, even though their people get along well with each other. I like bibimbap and samgyeopsal.
Same here. I am Korean. Today, My lunch was bootadon, Japanese food. And I really like to watch Japanese animations and listen to 80’s city pop! We can be best friends each other. 🤝😊
Dokdo is controlled and governed by the Republic of Korea. Period.
The clear reason why Dokdo is Korean territory is that Korea had the southern part of the Korean Empire's territory at the time, and the Korean Empire at that time officially announced that Dokdo was Korean territory by issuing Article 41 of the Imperial Decree of the Korean Empire in 1900, so Dokdo was Korean territory. . (Japan's official announcement of Dokdo's incorporation is Shimane Prefecture Notice No. 40, which is four years later than Korea's)
As a korean I really appreciate on your hard work trying to tell the truth
Where is the point of view from international law?
Thanks for the video!It was explained very well(opinion).It contains good facts!! And also in long time ago there was animal name Ganchi in dockdo but Japan killed all the Ganchi and ate it or used it for coat and boots.I heard Ganchi was simular as seal or something like that. However I hope this problem will solve soon.
From ancient Japanese literature it is a sea lion
I do not want the two countries to continue their sterile struggle. Why don't we just settle this at the ICJ as soon as possible?
And then we recognize Dokdo as a disputed territory, and I don't think that's necessary because Koreans are already living there
It is the result that Japan wants. Most of the countries with territorial disputes with Japan are getting longer in this way. This is because they can try to take over the territory with their diplomatic power only when it becomes a disputed area. According to various data, Liancourt Reef has historically been Korea's territory, but it does not appear that Japan occupied it and recognized the value of Liancourt Reef as the war ended and released it. Personally, it seems that Korea's territory is right
Some people wonder, why the Korean government is not responding to the Japanese government's ICJ complaint. If I explain the reason, I can organize it as follows.
The Japanese government continues to insist on resolving the Dokdo issue through international law in the ICJ. Since the ICJ has multinational judges, and the ICJ's existence itself is an institution established to resolve disputes between countries by third parties, the Japanese government's argument for resolving disputes in the ICJ is valid. Although this ruling is not compulsory, it can face international criticism if ignored.
However, the Japanese government has mistakenly pointed out the parties to the complaint. It is not Korea that excluded Dokdo from Japan's territory, but the United States, the United Kingdom, and the Republic of China, the victors of the Pacific War, which declared the exclusion of Dokdo from Japan's territory, No. 677-1, which finally confirmed it, and the San Francisco Peace Treaty, which recognizes the effectiveness of all actions under the direction of the occupation authorities during the occupation. At that time, it was completely in agreement with the Japanese government's strengthening treaty and independence, so even if it can be claimed that 'the territory was stolen because of the coercion of the strengthening treaty', the subject of the robbery was the Allies, and Korea can never be made. In other words, in order for Japan to take back Dokdo, it must file a complaint with the United States, the United Kingdom, and the Republic of China, which took it away, and change the agreement in SCAPIN 677. The problem is, however, Article 19 'd' of the San Francisco Peace Treaty states that the people of the Allied Powers cannot be held liable for any civil or criminal matters related to this. Therefore, a lawsuit cannot be filed unless Japan's independence is revoked and the United States, the United Kingdom, and the Republic of China start a war again. Initially, based on the San Francisco Peace Treaty, Japan became independent and received support from the United States and the United Kingdom, but denying it would make Japan less likely to be recognized as a member of the international community.
The reason for the repeated misinterpretation of SCAPIN 677 and Article 192 'd' of the San Francisco Peace Treaty is that they are asking the wrong questions about these materials. As the order and treaty do not stipulate "Whose land does Dokdo belong to?" the right answer cannot be given, and the Japanese side induces an analogy interpretation that is absolutely taboo in the treaty interpretation of "So it's Japanese territory." The right question is "Whose territory is Dokdo not?" The right answer to this question is clearly "Dokdo is not Japanese territory."
The U.N. can recommend that the ICJ resolve disputes that may jeopardize the maintenance of international peace and security, but if the Korean side deploys troops to Dokdo, it could be criticized for avoiding the conflict zone issue. Therefore, it is not good for Korea to imply a military conflict with Japan over Dokdo with an overly emotional response based on cold facts, as the sovereignty of Dokdo will not suddenly be transferred to Japan unless it goes to war with Japan, at least immediately.
Even if Korea maintains its effective control of Dokdo and there are even more serious territorial disputes than the Dokdo issue, it is unlikely to be a matter of Korean territory effectively controlled by other countries. Japan, which recognizes compulsory jurisdiction, calls for Korea and China to recognize its compulsory jurisdiction, but even if Seoul does, it cannot apply the compulsory jurisdiction over the Dokdo issue, as it has avoided applying it to matters prior to the date in which Tokyo recognizes it. After all, Japan's unilateral complaint over the Dokdo issue is absolutely impossible. This is why they continue to provoke Korea to agree to the complaint. The Japanese government is also aware of this. Japan, however, has not responded to China's ICJ complaint in opposition to the issue of Senkaku with China. Japan's refusal to apply the same policy as Dokdo means Tokyo's complaint itself is merely a means of provocation. As long as Korea has effective control of Dokdo, it is not desirable to cause serious disputes by overly sensitive and emotional responses. Making Dokdo recognize as a conflict zone among global villagers is Japanese government's strategy in itself.
Some argue that 'Korea will naturally win the ICJ because it is natural, and will the controversy over Dokdo disappear?' However, with that logic, Japan wants Korea to comply with the ICJ complaint. Once you agree to the ICJ complaint, you are acknowledging that Dokdo is a disputed area and may become Japanese territory depending on the outcome of the trial. Even if Japan claims Ulleungdo as its territory beyond Dokdo, just as Korea has no reason to go to the ICJ to determine whether it is Japanese territory, just as Ulleungdo is clearly Korean territory, Dokdo is the same. Above all, there is no guarantee that Japan will accept the results and give up its claims over Dokdo as there has already been a precedent of ignoring the ICJ's rulings and orders, even if Korea wins. In fact, Japan has already shown a direct rejection of the ICJ's ruling by withdrawing from the IWC, an international organization, and deciding to catch whales in response to the ICJ's ruling and order prohibiting Japanese whaling.
I've spoken a lot. Take your time to look at this and think about it. Thank you.
In the past, the People's Republic of China has never proposed referring the Senkaku Islands issue to the International Court of Justice.
Japan has repeatedly tried to jointly refer the matter to the International Court of Justice, but South Korea has refused. Currently, South Korea has an advantage because it can freely go there, or Japan has an advantage in terms of historical basis because it has materials from the 17th century.
idol or anime
Who has army that one wins
if u research about it, Dokdo is Korean territory