The Real Reason Why South Korea Is Dying Out
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S. Korea is not a real country. It's a corporation with a state.
America 2.0
@@yukitakaoni007 U both are correct.
Most underrated comment here.
@@yukitakaoni007How ?
@@Real_Shawn that's what I wasn't to know
I live in Pyeongtaek, and it’s MUCH more likely to see a small dog in a baby stroller than it is a human baby 😢
That's just sad. Kinda hurts. Good luck with becoming outvoted by elderly forever!
U r still a huge country … I live in a country w 6 million people lol also u highly developed so it’s kinda easy to import immigrants!
It's the same here in Florida
Is the same in São Paulo in Brazil
same thing in california bro.
0.7 birthrate. That means each generation will be less than half the prior.
About a third of the prior generation with a replacement rate of 2.1.
It is now 0.6
that 0.72 birthrate is going to drop to 0.68 this year...
Once you’re below 1.0 everyone needs to be all hands on deck or your just praying for an ai/robot future
yep, and there is a crisis in health care for kids, so having a kid is not the end of the problems if you can't find a doctor to keep your child healthy.
This proves that everything that looks shiny is not gold.
Yes you are right ✅️
"All that glitters is not gold."
Looks only shiny at night, I guess...
Big cities are ugly wherever you are.
Sick of these channels trying to shuv vpns or therapy down my throat., most people don't pay for CZcams so they have to put up with CZcams advert sponsors that are like many videos in themselves. Sorry Thumbs Down.
South korea is vassal state if usa , see every usa vasal has comman 1 st Christianity and athism 2 nd law birth rate and high divorce rate 3 only 1 global or important city in entire country (france has paris , uk has londen, itly has milan , USA has newyork, japan has tokiyo and etc ) 4 rth no family business or unit 5 th vassal state (us puppet)
Korean obsession with Seoul is so weird. You cant tell me that cities like Busan, Incheon, Daegu doesn't have it all. Incheon is so close to Seoul and it has it absolutely all... foreigners, bars, restaurants, every possible shopping option, good universities, good private schools, best airport in the country, good nightlife...and if you miss something you can hop on the subway, bus, car and you will be in Seoul in hour or less.
Apartments are so much cheaper in Incheon...same apartment that would cost you 1 million euros in Seoul is around 350-400k euros in Incheon. In Suwon is even cheaper and in Busan prices are like in Incheon.
This is a global obsession with big cities sadly. Everyone wants the commodity of those big cities, foreigners always want to move to the biggest cities too, so everything is funnelled to those. Small countries have a single big city, where everyone wants to live at and then complain they can't afford a proper living with a single job, much less housing.
It's a sad sight, everyone wants to live in mega cities and will refuse to move to smaller cities and help them grow, instant gratification syndrome. We want instant payouts and we've forgotten to plan for the future, we just consume consume and consume some more. Japan is dying due to the same affliction, everyone wants to move to Tokyo and leave their rural towns, not having kids because they can't afford it and never moving back to their native towns which are dying because everyone is leaving.
Same for China and UK amongst other countries.
Hell in the US all the people complaining about housing prices are the ones living in the big cities, despite them being able to work remotely in a cheaper state.
In the West, many big cities are full of crime and homelessness. Not so in North East Asia or Singapore.
@@mudra5114 i know that. I am from Serbia and crime here is a joke comparing to western countries or america. There is no crime at all. I am just saying that there are zero reasons to be in seoul when just one hour away you have amazing Incheon where apartments cost 3 times less. And it is stupid to say that universities and hospitals are not good in Incheon or any other bigger city in Korea.
@@biber9979 OK cool 👍
@@biber9979 OK cool . BTW I do not think Serbian cities like Belgrade have it as bad as Western European cities or American shitties.
I live in Korean suburb and things are working out in the way that more and more people are moving out of Seoul to enjoy relaxing and laid back lifestyle compared to Seoul after experiencing too much competition in Seoul. I think it is of relief that the problem is being solved naturally
If everyone in Seoul is earning very low profits/low wages, no one is.
So why bother? 🤷♂
I imagine moving out too will give a more family feel and birthrates outside of Seoul may increase?
One of the problems with the new xapital in its design phase that absolutely didn't help was the lack of any real public transport, which would've been easier to build there than in Seoul, yet they instead only added buses like afterwards
It was on purpose, to make the city only for the well positioned.
@@biohitabut things never work that why , their are all kind of people im every city for it to work properly,, so for low income families they have to provide facilities like public transport
@@biohita they are dump s korea sucks 😂
makes it easier to sell more hyundais and kias
Public transit is not how I want to raise my kids
Over 10 years in South Korea. This is a good video but it's the culture as a whole, as well as industrialised life more generally, that is strangling the country, not just Seoul.
I mean, that's the issue with corporations. They push investor appeasment untill they can't. Great value comes of it, and great downfalls too.
When you have an incorporated country, well, that's it.
"Culture" is merely the result of a country's mode of production and governance. In SK that's capitalism and corporatocracy respectively.
This is the result of the working class not being in power or organized, and being suffocated and stressed by the brutal working conditions. Hence the low birthrates and high suicide rates.
@@st.altair4936 culture is influenced by the factores you mentioned very heavily, but its not a result as in governance produces culture. Materialism incomplete if you disregard human life as Just a byproduct of governance and economics, you have to make the analysis bigger in scope of factors and giving the bigger influence where is due
@st.altair4936 Stop learning from 200 year old books.
@@GermanTaffer I don't remember 200 year old books mentioning SK is a corporatocracy.
Projecting much? Stop supporting a 500 year old outdated mode of production like capitalism.
Britain should really move its capital too. London is strangling other cities, from as close south as Birmingham to as far north as Glasgow. Somewhere in the middle of the island and more down to earth would be great, like Liverpool, Manchester or Leeds.
Even UK has that problem? Interesting
Southerner here and I hate London tbh. It's got too much in it and the pace of things is too fast. However, making Manchester or Liverpool the capital would be a stretch. The North deserves better
@user-rl7mt4gh3o maybe not
@user-rl7mt4gh3oLOL, Europeans and East Asians are NOT equal to Africans who can't even create a functioning country.
Should move capital to Glasgow so we all speak glaswegian 😂
The only solution I could think of is when korea decided to push more for remote working, online education and all those kinda things that don't require you to necessarily be on seoul. Maybe even create an insentive for companies to pay more money to their workers who don't work in seoul and openly talk about it.
...while that is one issue that has been talked about...it's not really working. It is still an export driven economy with heavy emphasis on highly technical manufacturing.
My friends who can enjoy that luxury usually tend to be IT fields or investment banking. And while those options are nice. It's mostly younger unmarried leople taking those options..Even those with those options will want to start a family in Seoul so that their children can get better education.
@@ddolki1990 why do they think that you can get good education just in Seoul. Man i am coming from a small poor country and i studied in even smaller city(just 100k people)... university wasn't big, famous, fancy but we got good practical knowledge on top of theory. Now with a degree from that super small university from a poor small country i can still get(and i am getting them on linkedin) offers from all around europe. So that thing that you have to study on the best university to succeed is big bull shit.
@@biber9979 in SK if you dont have good school in your CV, there is a higher chance that they wont even invite you for an interview... even if you dont finish that top school, the fact that you were able to get in counts and you get more opportunities
Birth control kills modern society. And the power has shifted too much in favor of women.
They can murder your baby at a whim, whereas you have only one choice if they keep it: to man up. Ultimate female hypergamous control.
Same thing happens in Mexico with Mexico City. Everything has to go through here and then to the rest of the country. At least we have two other major cities that balance it out and they are growing because México City is getting to expensive and too crowded
I guess Veracruz is one of those cities, what is the other one?
And what is the location of the next Mexican capitol the day Lake Texcoco win the fight against The City?
@@thanakonpraepanich4284 1. Guadalajara 2. Monterrey
Monterrey, I'd imagine@@thanakonpraepanich4284
@@thanakonpraepanich4284 i ment Guadalajara and Monterrey. Veracruz is forgotten by their government. Lake Texcoco is not coming back but the capital has to move elsewhere
The same in Greece, Athens and the nearby satellite places are hosting half of the country's population with devastating effects on the country.
Overcrowded and expensive to live but there you will find better paid job, young women and entertaining opportunities, school nearby, doctors and hospitals, shops etc.
The more people gather the more emptied becomes the countryside....
Same thing is happening with the UK, London is supporting the rest of the country.
Glad you mentioned this I was gonna comment the same - as I Londoner I can resonate. This problem certainly isn’t isolated to SK and could name a dozen other countries with the same problem. It’s mega cities demographics
Korea is not a country to live in. So please don't go and live in Korea. Especially the Western lower class, Chinese and Filipinos.indian.
It’s starting to change though. Manchester and Leeds are fast growing cities and at changing rapidly too
Uk is also the second most depressed country in the world lol. but BBC is too busy talking shit about other countries
I live in London but from elsewhere originally. All the other cities just feel like inferior versions of London. I think you'd struggle to convince people here to relocate to Birmingham, Liverpool, Manchester etc. It's a shame though, other European countries e.g. Germany have a range of cities each with a different feel. It wouldn't be default to move to Berlin. Cologne, Munich, Dusseldorf etc. would be worthwhile choices.
My sister works as a programmer in Seoul, and she pays 1000 dollars per month for rent to live in a shipping container in the rooftop. It’s not even in the center of Seoul but a shabby corner of the city
Programmers should work from home.. She needs a quiet cabin in a small town
@@benjamindavis2475 As a programmer, I support this. You still need to live in a rather large city due to tech needs, but come on, I don't need to live in the capital to have the job unless not working remotely. I can squeeze every cent out of my salary just by living in a secondary city. I know that from experience.
How low is her pay?
no not agree it is lie rent is cheaper
That is probably not true. I rent two bedrooms flat very close to Han River in Seoul and pay 700 monthly.
This is what happens when you "sell your Seoul"...
Jokes aside, this is exactly why I'm baffled whenever somebody plans to move to Korea. Many people there are depressed, and this is why. They did this to themselves, and it's a shame to see foreigners borderline throw their lives away just because they're a little too obsessed with Kdramas and Kpop...
But it’s marginal and insignificant how many people actually move to South Korea as expats, and it’s still a life experience that people choose to participate in whether it’s for a salient or vapid reason.
The K Wave is the new Zeitgeist
Meh, I moved to Korea in 2019 not caring at all about their pop culture, but I knew based on my research that Busan was my preference. It was the right choice. Busan is Korea's best city, but if you prefer to breathe the pollution in Seoul, then be my guest.
Korea is a great place. If you move there thinking you're going to live a K-Drama fantasy, you'll probably be disappointed, but if you just want to have a rewarding experience, it's perfect.
This is what I realize as an Asian. In "happier" countries, you'll see TV Shows depicting unnecessary dramas, in "sadder" countries, you'll find TV Shows depicting happiness and 'what life could be'.
Korea is not a country to live in. So please don't go and live in Korea. Especially the Western lower class, Chinese and Filipinos.lndian.
omg finally someone said the real issue. There's literally ONE city in this entire country, compared to even Japan etc
There are literally several cities in Korea: Busan (pop: 3.5 million), Daegu (pop: 2.5 million) Daejeon (pop: 1.5 million) amongst others.
@@JC-lu4se That's the problem. Seoul's population including the greater area is 20 million, many more than other cities. And people from those cities are moving to Seoul.
@@JC-lu4se you missed incheon but who's counting lol
@@halamadridpatriotsnationgo1057 Incheon is considered part of the greater Seoul area.
"even"? Japan has a population of 120 million, although approximately 20 million people live in the Tokyo metropolitan area. About 100 million people live elsewhere.
It is good to have multiple major cities as it makes the country more resilient, if one city fails or is nuked, the whole country won't fail completely. The US, China, India don't have an overwhelming dominant primate city and it has allowed for more regional specialization
@@Madzguy007 it is more like the top 6 metros are 1/4th the economy the next 20 make up the next 1/4 and then the next 100 make up 1/4 and finally the rural areas and very small cities also make 1/4th of the economy
It's because US, China and India are so big
Same thing in Brazil
@@Madzguy007, complete and utter BS...
@@Madzguy007more than 3,4 cities im sure
Their focus and over reliance on Seoul is shocking. In Japan, they have Nagoya, Osaka, Fukuoka and numerous other smaller cities as their engines for economic growth alongside Tokyo. In Germany they have Stuttgart, Frankfurt, Koln, Hamburg, Augsburg, Bremen as the engines for economic growth alongside Munich and Berlin. In India they have Chennai, Mumbai, Hyderabad, Kolkata as economic engines for India alongside New Delhi.
Why Korean government and planners did not spread out the economic development evenly throughout the country for years, instead just focusing on Seoul alone?
at least Busan metropolitan area, Incheon >> Fukuoka, Koln, Augsburg, Bremen, Chennai, Hyderabad etc.
There are some of it. Busan, Ulsan, Incheon.
there is no comparison Seoul and Busan between anyone @@hazelnut3794
And Russia??
Democratic governments can't plan where private companies have their factories, offices, etc. They can only try to make certain places more attractive with good infrastructure or lower taxes. I think in South Korea the mentality of simply accepting one collectivistic goal (studying, working & living in Seoul) is the biggest factor. Meanwhile here in Germany the regional differences are quite strong and there is some pride attached to it. At the same time middle-sized companies are considered to be the backbone of the economy and going to college is not that important. The fertility rate has been below 2.1 since 1970 though. That always happens if you only go half the way with gender equality (lack of childcare, lack of financial support for parents independent of their relationship status, lack of men who do their fair share of the household work & childcare without calling it "helping" or "babysitting", lol - it's getting better though.) I've heard that's an even bigger issue in South Korea + extremely high & strict beauty standards are not helping either.
I totally understand how insecure young couple feel about their future today. I constantly worry about my daughter. She is doing ok but I can see her daily stress. Poor girl is only 23. She already told me she doesn't plan to have kid cuz the future world is not stable. Why bring one more human to this uncertain world.
if your daughter is model quality she will be fine with a wealthy man but if she is ugly she's gonna be an aged out woman at some point as 23 and single is OLD in asian cultures. a left over she will be...
I have the same mindset.. i wont bring kids to this world.
@@defaultworkouts what the hell are you saying…. That’s so ridiculous.
@@heekyungkim8147 he isn't wrong tho
You are wrong thinking different in different countries.
Marry and birth child in South asian countries
Where thinking different
Child is must
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Tell me about Betterhelp privacy issues?
this makes me realize that one of the reason the US is great economically is its nearly fair distribution of development. yes california and NY are shining the brightest but most other states are great too
Exactly. If it doesn't work out for you in Chicago, try Atlanta. That's what makes the U.S. unique.
Well I think the USA has the benefit of skilled migration and integration to help it's population issues. Also, the US is enormous. South Korea could fit inside of Texas a few times
@@esamullajee3273 SK even fits in Honduras 😂
Ok I'll refrain from saying anything biased or derogatory, I will say this though, I despise the U.S government for selling a dream to the world, and since the internet when everything came to light, most Americans are finding it hard to believe they're not actually No.1, the best or even a good country in comparison to other countries.
Now some neither leaning information, the usa isn't great economically (not by a long shot), but the graces fell on them simply because it had too.
Since WW2, when all the big empires were decimated, Britain, France, Germany, Japan and The USSR, the only country left standing was the USA, literally. All of Africa, S America, Oceania and vast parts of Asia were occupied by a handful of European countries, even Canada, which makes the majority of N America was British.
Fast forward 10 years (1955) the empires that were just fighting couldn't support its colonies, hence the reason for independence. And the only country that got its independence way before even the ww1, was the usa.
Now, I wouldnt compare the usa to S Korea at all, these two are as different as night and day. If I were you, not you specifically but everyone,I would take this information (the video) as a warning, the usa, amongst every other developed nation and most developing nations, is suffering.
The reason why S Korea is facing hardships is due to contraceptions, not because they focused all their money on one city.
Humans need offspring, they must reproduce otherwise they go extinct. Everything mentioned in the video is just the after effect of having no children.
@@sandrajones8245 "The reason why S Korea is facing hardships is due to contraceptions, not because they focused all their money on one city."
Bruh, imagine people in SK wanting children when they literally live in a 1x1 tiny apartment shaq.
I live in SK. I visited the city wall museum in Dondaemun and learned that Soeul has ALWAYS been the center of the country. Royals and government the only iones permitted to live there- they even had to get permission to even do repair work. It reminded me of Pyongyang in North Korea.
Pyongyang too when it was one country.
That isn’t really true. Before the divide there were TWO major cities. Hanseong/Hanyang(Seoul) and Pyongyang. While Seoul has historically been more cosmopolitan due to it’s location there were times during the Joseon period where Pyongyang was rich and full of commerce and culture. I think people are discussing this without taking into account that South Korea is only one half of what was once a single country.
You forgot about Gyeongju and the Silla Kingdom. That was the largest city for many years. It is my favorite city in SK so far.
It seems like Seoul has the 1980s New York City syndrome
It’s like that on steroids times 20.
Most korean youngster always dreams to go to america and be like americans, while in reality those who live there like 10 years or so, can't even speak english properly or integrate out of the korean community
What happened in 1980s new york
Way too concentrated. NYC was the capital of America at that time. Which was why they made Washington D.C it’s new capital.
@@qualityguacamole9142you mean financial capital, not the capital. DC has been the capital for many many decades now, NYC was never a capital. NYC is still considered the financial capital. But there are major metropolis in many states and each one has their own metropolis or more than 1 in some cases, like Texas and California have several.
Large metropolises are sterilization zones for any population. People procreate more and build stronger families in smaller and dispersed communities that are more manageable and tightly knitted, where everyone knows and trusts each other and the wealth is more fairly distributed.
Isn’t it normal that when things get more competitive and less pleasant, people are less able to care for someone else? Plus: why would you create children when it’s simply no fun anymore to live anyhow…
Fun? More like an overly toxic ambitious culture of constantly comparing yourself or your family or your city in this case.
Yea, but it makes no sense to be so overly competitive when you can live in other areas and still have a decent standard of living.
South Korean grind culture combined with capitalism's rat race ethic is a tragic combination, but that is entirely because the South Koreans are choosing to risk everything for a very high standard of living. This crisis is almost entirely a cultural problem that can be fixed if they place a lower emphasis on appearances and more on family.
Same can be said about my country Singapore, we are now facing a fertility rate of less than 1. Due to cultural, economical issues, many people are not willing to have kids. And understandably so. The future isn’t looking bright when the middle class are getting sandwiched with each passing year
I live in South Korea, near Seoul but not in the city itself. Seoul really does have everything in it and 90% of the English speaking population, 2,250,000 people, all live in Seoul. It's not like comparing New York City (pre-2020s, not the crapsack it's become under Hochul) to the rest of the state, back in the US. It'd be like comparing New York City to Delaware and Wyoming.
There are some good big cities that aren't Seoul, like Suwon and Incheon, but they're all in the same state as Seoul, Gyeonggi, and within an hour away, anyway. The _only_ good major city outside of Gyeonggi is Busan, Korea's version of San Diego, and it's all the way on the other side of the country in the southeast. Between that, you just have Gwangju, which is full of old people, Daegu, which is just a giant crater of humidity and has nothing special in it, and Daejeon, which _sucks_ and is so boring. So if Seoul is Korea's New York City, the only other options would be to live in Korean Tampa, Houston, or Cleveland. So you can see why the greater Seoul area is so appealing to many people, even if living in Seoul-proper, has its problems.
Seoul's TFR is already at 0.51. And the highest regional TFR is just 0.88, that's of all regions in the country, urban and rural.
Having been to Seoul. It's a very samey feeling city. There's a soul crushing feeling looking from the top of Namsan and seeing endless blocks of similar looking apartment complexes as far as the eye can see.
Architectural variety is important I suppose.
Agreed....but what do you expect from a population that is 98% homogeneous. That's part of the reason why I left in 2019.
@@abdiellawrence397 It is probably because residential development is focused on large apartment complexes.
Buildings in Tokyo have similar architectural styles, but it's not as jarring because most buildings are unique (As in they are not the same height, shape and size).
@Destroyer4700
I used to live in Songpa, the neighborhood which has the towering Lotte Tower you see in Seoul's skylines. In fact, I only lived about three blocks from Lotte Tower. Seoul isn't that great as a city, but you go there for the opportunities and the people. That's the only reason to be in Seoul. I've also lived in Anyang, Uijeongbu, Guri, Suwon, and Osan/Dongtan (all are smaller cities in the same general Greater Seoul Area.) I recommend them much better than Seoul if you want to stay a while, but if you're just there for a year or less to meet some good people,, work a temporary job, then bounce, then you shouldn't live anywhere else but Seoul, cause it really is where all the opportunities are, sadly.
@@abdiellawrence397 good you left
@@MarvinPowell1 My mother-in-law lives next to Lotte Adventure. I think Seoul is a great city and love visiting every year.
Isn't another reason it's close proximity to the DMZ
No, that's been a threat ever since the Korean War ended. Nobody thinks about the North when moving to Seoul, and it shows how much the place just kept getting packed in.
yep it is
Seoul isn’t the only capital where it has drained the life of the country. The classic example is Paris - it has pretty much dominated France for the last half millennium that no other capital has dominated another country. The French are finally pushing back - that’s probably a main root cause of the Gilets jaunes, and it’s interesting to see that this is the first mass movement in France that actually arose outside of Paris.
Moscow could compete for with title
London in the UK is worse than Paris for dominating its parent country, so much so that London is like a different country and culture within the UK. London is the UKs 1sr, 2nd, 3rd 4th and possibly 5th city compared to other countries. Deindustrialisation of the UK was the start of the rot.
@@rulur St. Petersberg was the capital of Russia for a hot minute kinda lowering Moscow's peg a bit compared to Paris
Thanks! Your video is the best explanation I've seen so far.
Great video, informative and knowledgeable, many thanks ❤
It should be noted that KR is very mountainous. Mountains drive infrastructure and trasnportation cost and therefore make industrial development very difficult.
Maybe KR should try to develop a belt around its costline, kinda the thing Spain is doing involuntarily.
BS. It's not an economical problem why Korea is dying.
i was in SK from 1995/1999. the population of seoul went from 14 million to 17 million. the population of SK did not really change that much. everyone was moving from the rural south of SK to seoul. they were building those domino apartment buildings so fast, there was one city that sprang up SE of seoul, that was named NEW CITY. that's was the road signage said. they couldn't come up with a name for the city before it was built.
funny thing, Pusan changed it's name to Busan and now it's something different.
i remember asking the guy i was with one time how close we were to the border. we were just outside camp campbell. his reply was, "20 minutes by car, 5 seconds by mig."
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The Korean peninsula is basically an island
My family isndeom Senegal and we have a similar problem: Everything is in Dakar and everyone is trying to move to Dakar. As a consequence, the city is overpopulated already and extremely expensive relatively to everyone's salary.
spend a few weeks in korea last year. every young person i talked to in seoul was desperate to move abroad.
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Thx nice video
It sucks that Dom accepted the BetterHelp sponsorship.
All youtubers that have ads are scamming people watching the videos.
We’re seeing in real time people’s tendency to ignore moral issues when it benefits them because “well everyone else is doing it”. Sucks. All we can do is try to stop watching the vid when they say it’s sponsored by bh
@@JonahNelson7 do you care to explain what’s the matter?
Everyone needs to pay their bills . Don't take it seriously. He doesn't take it either.
I have a 6yrs old nephew who live in Seoul and he told me in his kindergarten, Korean kids value their friends which apartment they live, what car their parents drive and what their parents do for a living. If some kids fall below average, they categorize those kids as "peasants/slave" status.
I read that in korean dating culture, the man has to put his car keys on the table on the first date so that the woman knows what brand of car he owns. They have rental services so you can pretend to own a BMW to impress a date. It's dystopian. Also, despite being very poor and in debt, they all wear designer clothes so they don't look poor. they've very materialistic.
Not just in South Korea, in some other countries/ subnational administrative divisions, the biggest city usually pulls in population and capital so much to the extent of leaving smaller cities/towns/villages languishing with diminishing population base and resources.
I read a book by an investor once, and that was one of his big red flags for a country. If only one city is growing, he felt it was a sign too much power was being concentrated in one place. He felt this was even worse if the city was the capital.
And let's be honest- young people don't want to stay behind in these small towns where there's not much to do, not much opportunity, and is stuck in the past in general mindset.
I just spent some time in Gwangju, and loved it there! It’s so much less chaotic than Seoul, and the people are much nicer. You get all of the big city amenities without the headaches.
The government should just promote some of the existing cities as places for commerce.
This video is actually genuinely underated and damm ❤😂🎉.
10:17 It should be noted that that government building is one VERY long building. It's insane. I've been to Sejong a few times and I was allowed up on the roof and walked along a bunch of it. It's insane. The picture doesn't do it justice.
With such a bithrate, will the competition for school kids be less in 5-10 years time? If there are less young people competing for places in top schools or universities, it shoud get better for the kids?
Guess if one person need to do 3 people jobs, it will be converted to long working hours and late retirement age.
@kleec495 that's if there's some kind of mandate that you have to cover multiple positions which doesn't make sense. Usually when there's less workers you are able to bargain your way into better conditions
Jobs die out too because there are less people to sell the products
70% of young people in South Korea have a college degree. The competition is mainly happening at the top because being average is not considered good enough to live a good life (in Seoul, nice home, good looks, high status, luxury items, etc.)
Very well summarized.
The birth rate is also declining because of a movement of South Korea women as the men do not treat them equally, it got to a point where men were stabbing women in the streets so as a protest women decided to not have children which forces them to reconsider how they treat women
It is not about that it's because of the cost of living there stop twisting it and making it seem as if that's the reason why things are the way they are. you're trying so hard to push this 4B shit and that's not the reason and some of you women in America are causing problems so you need to get some help stopping lies off of people culture and what they tend to go through that's extremely disrespectful trying gain some thing off that🙄
I was watching a show called Go After Breakfast where the host wakes up guest in their house, makes them breakfast, and interviews them. One ep had a famous singer whose apartment could only be rented and not buy since, the listing price is apparently too high to be put on the market to sell which is insane to me.
First of all, it is wrong to say that it is concentrated in Seoul. It is correct to say that it is concentrated in the metropolitan area. In fact, Seoul's population has decreased. And although it is true that it is concentrated in the metropolitan area, that does not mean that all cities across the country will disappear. It is expanding across metropolitan cities. In other words, it is true that urbanization continues to progress and is concentrated in the metropolitan area. The premise that the Republic of Korea will fall simply because it is concentrated in Seoul is wrong.
Seoul and "the Seoul greater metropolitan area" mean the same thing to most people.
This happened in Germany when it got separated in 1945 and then again when it got reunited in 1990. Berlin to Bonn to Berlin. 😊
Germany is at least well-balanced; Berlin is the political capital but Frankfurt/Main has the financial sector, film is mostly in Munich while TV is scattered through the regional centers due to the decentralization the Allies imposed on ARD, manufacturing is just about everywhere.
Yeah, Bonn became this humongous monster that swallowed the whole rest of Germany...oh wait..
@@nlpnt Very true. I live in a midsized town and the living standard, the opportunities etc. are just as high as in the bigger cities. Most rural areas aren't that well developed though. However my comment was more about the possibility of moving the capital to another city and how benefiting this can be for a country. It definitely helped unify east and west Germany.
@@PradedaCech What do you mean?
how about moving all industries to rural areas, and banning counstruction of new ones in seoul? an industrial park can liven up the economy of the place and people would move there. then build low cost housing for the employees, and the rest will follow.
there will be new schools and universities, and the industry there must prioritize graduates from the new local schools and universities. this is important since you are making it easier for people to help in the local economy first before even thinking of leaving for seoul.
Haha. Such a naive dream
Every country that experience high development, industrialization and urbanization face the same issue.. Low birth rate
Exactly.
- Birth control
- Expensive housing
- Unprecedented entertainment including hyper-available porn
- Children used to be a financial asset, but are now a liability
Not sure this phenomenon has a name, but im calling it Capital Overcentralization, this isnt happening only in SK, but with Moscow and St Petersburg for Russia, im sure that many commenters can lean in and opinate if this happens in their country as well
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Moscow is less than 10% of Russia's total population.
@@user-ju8lp6vx8u Yet a lot of capital and services is in Moscow.
Daejeon is such a good place to live. It’s an hour away from Seoul and has a techno valley and it’s not overwhelming like Seoul. I lived there for 3 years
Kind of the same in Italy. Most people always think you can find a job in the Northen part, especially Milan, which in reality is one of the most expensive places to live in (to me still a place with a mentality I never was able to grasp in all these years, cuz not everyone there just run to work and earn their salary). People always lament they barely arrive at the end of the month. True the rent is one of the highest in the country, but never mention that doing things like going to restaurants or drinking with friends has its cost there. In other words, i just see lack of coherency all the time.
In every country, people flock to the major cities for job opportunities and education. South Korea is hardly unique.
The question is, why aren't other countries dying because of this phenomenon?
Probably because the capital is larger or they have multiple cities with job opportunities.
Problem is that, other countries have multiple major cities, plurals as you correctly used. Sk only has seoul. Can you imagine any other country whose capital city is the only significant one and has half of the population?
They are facing the same problem. If not for immigration, most Western countries would have low or negative population growth, too. It's too expensive to have large families. So, more and more people opt to have fewer kids, if any at all.
They should’ve named the new Capital spirit
maybe Hart? like heartgold and soulsilver. since seoul has extra E, Hart should lose the E
Exactly the same problem in Denmark. Copenhagen eating more and more of Denmark, and already now politicans only prioritize Copenhagen and not the rest of the country.
Sounds like Singapore
Singapore’s size requires it to be a city-state though.
Seoul is within North Korean range. Thats probably the real reason why they are moving the capita.
Oh, you think that is the problem. Most of Asian is now in North Korea's range
@@Gerryjournal i wasn't alluding to nukes. Seoul is about 35 miles or about 50 km from the North Korean border. That is within artillery and/or rocket artillery range.
@@asdasdasddgdgdfgdg I can assure you that had nothing to do with it. I talked with many, many Koreans while they were in the planning phases. It really is about the economic factors mentioned in this video.
Ok kid
Do you mean North Korea is within Seoul range? Changes the meaning slightly.
If I could just add a few observations of my own, which are admittedly based on my experience working in SK more than a decade ago...
First, the top teacher's university in the country is located in the center, in Cheongju. This is 한국교원대학교 (Korea National University of Education), known nationally as "Kyowondae". I had the privilege of teaching there from 2008 - 2010, and students (as well as licensed school teachers participating in professional development programs) came from all over SK.
Yes, the "SKYvy" league is situated firmly in Seoul - Seoul National University, Korea University (KU) and Yonsei University, but KNUE is still a top-ranked public research university, and it is located practically out in the middle of rice fields in a village called "Miho" outside the main center of Cheongju-si. I always found it very impressive that they put their national teacher training university there:)
Second, the southern city of Busan was an exceptional place to live, so I used to hear, with many foreigners and Koreans leaving Seoul and the surrounding areas to relocate there. I remember that ferries would run regularly between Busan and Fukoaka, Osaka, and other Japanese port cities. There were also numerous jobs in Busan, and it was known as a significant tourist attraction in the spring and summer months.
Again, this was over ten years ago, and I have not been to SK since I left my job at Kyowondae, so I cannot speak to the situation on the peninsula today. Seoul was always the most sought after destination, but numerous other cities (Daegu, Daejeon, Jeonju, Suwon etc) seemed to be thriving as just as well. I hope the situation hasn't become as dire as it is portrayed in this video.
I live in South Korea now. Nobody cares about KNUE, and Busan is all the way on the other side of the country, it barely even feels like Korea the same way Jeju barely feels like the same country. Korea is much more isolated than the US. Some people like to call the space between New York and Los Angeles "flyover states" but that's not true at all. In South Korea, you pretty much just have Seoul and the general Gyeonggi area (Suwon, Incheon, and Seoul suburbs), or Busan. That's it. No one cares about Daejeon, Gwangju, or Daegu. If Seoul is Korea's New York and Busan is LA/San Diego, then Daejeon is Cleveland, Gwangju is Tampa, and Daegu is Houston. No one wants to live in Cleveland over (pre-2020s) New York City. I've lived in most of these places except Daegu and Busan; Daejeon was absolutely awful.
@@MarvinPowell1 Love how you imply that everyone currently living there shares your view of these places.
"No one cares about Daejeon, Gwangju, or Daegu."
"Nobody cares about KNUE, and Busan is all the way on the other side of the country, it barely even feels like Korea the same way Jeju barely feels like the same country."
You definitely sound like a typical American. I don't mean that as a compliment either.
It's similar to the urban/rural divide many other countries experience, not really unique to South Korea alone. People go where opportunity is, and it's generally not in small towns off in the countryside.
I did road trip in Korea, I saw many abandoned village in rural area. It’s a bit sad. But I understand that many new gens want to work in big corporates hence coming to Seoul. Life is struggling here, things are even more expensive after Covid including rent.
Seoul is the closest thing we have to Cyberpunk IRL (along with Tokyo). We should pay close attention to its lessons and problems.
Exactly 💯
Seoul is a mile away from Cyberpunk. Seoul is not dirty, it's remarkably clean for a city its size. It's not dangerous; it's very safe.
seoul and tokyo are not the only ones, theres also chongqing and shenzhen
@user-rl7mt4gh3o ?
@@selohcin It’s cyber without the punk
Living in South Korea for almost a decade, I learned that South Koreans should also drop their military-oriented culture in their office environment.
Frankly, South Korea is too fascist. Maybe that's why Japan looks rather normal.
Would you mind giving more details? That’s pretty interesting
@@NamhadiNdemufayo maybe they refer to hierarchy in Korean society and workplaces. The respect towards older people got to absurd levels. While it is normal to respect older people in many Asian cultures, I think it is not normal to blindly obey or be powerless to contradict someone older than you by a year or who works in a company longer.
@@NamhadiNdemufayo I am from Italy and it's kind of the same here, cuz people thin everything good can be found only in Milan. In SK, about the military, maybe instead they should just reduce it at 1 year of service. Let's not forget the North is heavily militarized, but I would not say the south it's fascist in this days and age. It was 3-4 decades ago when the father of the former SK president (the woman who's in jail now for corruption) took over and created a military government.
@@user-pm4bq2xe4q Yeah this is absolutely correct. It's not only happen in workplace, even in school and interaction between friends. For me this is so unbearable and it's even disgusting how older people demand respect and thought they have right to order younger people as they pleased.
Korea, fascist? Fair. Japan seeming normal, however? Clearly you’ve still got your anime goggles on
Para que construir uma nova capital? Basta escolher outra cidade já existente, adaptá-la e torná-la capital. Pusan, por exemplo.
Provide links to your research would be nice
It appears that the problem of a nation state having the same city as its political capital AND business centre was recognised in the 1800s.
Note that it was about that time in Anglo North America that new states & provinces would deliberately choose a smaller city to be the capital, than the primary business city.
That would be a very interesting topic to follow.
Japan has a very similar demographic problem where most smaller towns are shrinking while Megatropolis Tokyo keeps on growing.
Yeah but at least Japan has two mega cities with a third one on the way.
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They needed permission from President Sammy first. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
They didn't get it.
brother, love your videos, but man, do something about your audio, always had to turn my volume up way too high when watching your vids
Dang good video. But you gotta do something about that audio, couldn't hear anything without my speakers.
If you think financially about kids, you will never have them. Most parents do not have stable finances before they become parents but they still make kids.
And is this a good thing?
Yes, and that leaves you with a life full of struggle.
@@MrCristianposso if you're always LED by fear you will never achieve anything in life.
The most important things in life are not things @@MrCristianposso
@@dmedic213 Other fears don't cost as much as having children in SK.
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Tokyo is very similar. Rural japan is disapearing. Its crazy we see this in more heavily in Asian capitalist countries but not in western ones, or at least not as bad
South korea might have stronger population decline exactly because of the population living in basements and mini units dur to poverty, and hyper competitive and scarce opportunity society.
They need to commit 2% of gdp to fixing housing until median rental is below 30% of median income, and housing value increases at only 2% of original sale value per year.
I think most countries should commit to such goals over a span of 50 years.
What about one of the largest collection of 155mm artillery guns that have already been zeroed in on the capital ?
That's been a threat the whole time, and not even a consideration to come to/remain in Seoul.
If military strategy was a defining factor in the location a country chooses for its capital, then Paris wouldn’t be Frances capital, and many other world capitals wouldn’t be. This is not my quote, I read in a history book but I can’t remember who said it
Birth rate of Pandas 1,6 and count as endangered species.
Birth rate of my country is 1,3.
Birth rate of south korea 0,73. Oh boy!!! 😬
A primary example why you don't want to centralize your economy...
SM is literally the epitome of capitalism
This is the Philippines as well...where Manila is Seoul and New Clark City...minus the govt part...is Sejong
London is similar in most respects
I said it before but why is the volume of your videos so low compared to every other on CZcams ? Always have to turn the volume of my device all the way up to hear what you're saying
I think Bangladesh should also build a new Capital
Exactly, Dhaka is becomin the same problem like Seoul. Dhaka is way larger than other Bangladeshi cities
Bangladesh should control their population
Atleast Bangladesh is not having birth rate problems like South Korea.
Also consider the fact that inheritance tax is 50%, so intergenerational wealth transfer disappears in 2-3 generations.
You cannot literally accumulate wealth and move elsewhere in country where property value is low.
Australia might have it right with their capital city - Canberra. Everyone thinks it’s Sydney and they have several cities that share the bulk of the population and big business.
That betterhelp sponsorship is not a good look
Confused. In umm..mid 80s Americans were adopting S. KOREAN babies...
There were still poor people and unwanted children in 80s South Korea, despite growth, which was also pretty unequal. They were making babies then, they’re just not making many of them now.
This is like asking why americans adopted Chinese baby girls back then.. It was then not present….
Indeed. Mid 80s, I worked in Tokyo during the day and Seoul at night. Every morning, I got on a Southwest flight heading to Seattle via Tokyo. It was full of Korean babies and their nurses and was nicknamed the nursery express.
The mid 80s were 40 years ago. The mid 80s are about as close to ww2 as they are to us. Times change
This problem is everywhere around the world right now.
I was born in SK and living in Seoul for 17 years. Even in seoul there are many empty towns and buildings. This city is literally killing itself.
I've heard that BetterHelp is problematic for a variety of reasons. I hope you look into your sponsor. Appreciate the video though.
Just import North Koreans
import kim jong un as a comedian
@@KSmifune Korea makes a ton of interracial NTR porn too but I suspect it's a vocal minority that is into that shit.
I don't know if the people obsessing with 'Seoul', when the City have no 'Soul'. *badum-ts-ts 🥁
Similar process plays out everywhere, this is just a more extreme example. Cities have various productive capabiltiies that make them worth having (art, culture, technology) but they are effectively "powered" by people, and are not self sustaining, they "use up" not just surrounding natural resources, but surrounding human resources. Capital cities use up even more, and even suck people and resources away from other cities.
In traditional societies (Britain 300 years ago, Japan 400 years ago, China 1000 years ago etc), cities were important, but the vast majority of the population lived rurally. This worked because excess rural population (just like excess rural food production) could move to the cities.
The trouble is that now in developed countries, the vast majority of the population lives in cities, meaning they "use up" a huge number of people that need to be replenished, but now that only a small number of people live rurally, they are effectively sucking rural areas dry so that the rural areas are no longer self sustaining either (everyone knows about the general trend of young people moving to cities and leaving rural communities empty, whether it be Italy or Japan or South Korea)
The West "solves" this by turning the "suck in people from rural areas to cities" to "suck in people from developing countries to developed countries vi massive immigration", however this solution creates its own problems (cultural balkanization and national identity destruction and the fact that it's basically a ponzi, since developing countries eventually become developed countries and you run out of people to import). However for Korea and Japan, while they avoid the loss of identity and homeland for the native population by not importing large numbers of immigrants, that means their demographic issues will hit them much harder.
However, in the long run, Korea will still be Korea, even with a smaller population, which will eventually stabilize at lower densities as the culture changes and only the pro natal people are left. Meanwhile Britain will no longer be Britain, France will no longer be France, the populations that created them will be replaced by people with no real historical connection to them, and their unique cultures and histories will disappear.
Correct.
As long as politicians refuse to do anything about the cost of living and of raising children, they have no right to complain about birth rates. Especially towards women, who face even more challenges in a deeply patriarchal, and actually misogynistic, society like the Korean one. It's the system that's broken, not the actors.
If woman don’t want to have children, then it’s solely their fault !
Misogyny has occurred because women have a high level of visibility, so they try to see the other person's ability and assets, not love, and men also try to see the woman's appearance and personality. Men and women have different ideas.
@@MtiuliBichi Korea has the highest child upbringing costs in the world, and very few families can support themselves on a single income. It’s no surprise so many young Koreans can’t picture themselves having children when the costs are so prohibitively expensive. You can pretend that the choice to have children occurs in a vacuum insulated from all other factors, but the reality is that’s simply untrue.
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Please leave your woke Western bullsh*t out of South Korea, please.
Everyone else, ignore this fool. They're speading nonsense.
Thats like living in the US and all your opportunities for a better life are only tied to either NYC, LA, and San Francisco.
What? You obviously don't know much about the US.
@BiggieTrismegistus I was making a comparison based on the information given to the video. Clearly you don't know analogies
Same here in IMPERIAL Manila, Philippines.
9:39 dafuq is that bus doing there blocking the traffic?
No worries. North Koreans will just move south.