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I think it works well that he's so chatty. Considering how many feint options he has, having him shout all his moves might even throw off an inexperienced opponent. Reminds me of a character in a Chinese donghua that constantly yells out false moves to confuse people.
@@irocklalot Certainly seems that way, but that's more likely due to people having the standard version, 15k steel is a lot for a hero you might not be sure about. That and no Wu Lin faction war.
@@Mattman_90 idk during the ps4 days of play marching fire is $15 which is how i got the wu lin. Tiandi is in running with Shaolin for my new main. I was a warden and Kensei main.
@@divotslice Glad you're enjoying the characters. During the launch of marching fire they were everywhere but I think the hype died down. I see a lot of shaloins and JJs but barely any tiandi or nuxia. I main Warden and PK, never could get on with Kensei myself.
he's worth 15k gold just for that long kick man . after mastering shaolin , I picked tiandi for some dirty fun in multiple player mode. but I think Nvxia is a lot more fun in duels. the parries and traps are more satisfying than brutal violence..HL for example
I think there's a certain elegance to Wu lin heroes that make them appealing. I prefer JJ and Nuxia to the other two. I do enjoy Tiandi though I am of the impression the character is actually under powered and not balanced like I say in the video. I'm glad you're enjoying the character and thank you for your kind words. I doubt millions are in my CZcams future but I'm thrilled so many have joined the channel already. 🙂
Only thing I hate about tiandi is that they call him a dodge specialist when his dodges can be easily countered with a light or gb. I wish his dodge was as safe as kensei because you try to hit or gb a dodge heavy kensei your attacks will just slip off his body and miss and you get hit instead. I was going to main tiandi but his terrible dodging ruined it for me so I mained jj instead his dodge is slightly better lol
His dodges require serious practice, they can be effective when used properly but despite his speciality I think it refers to the many dodge cancel options Tiandi has access to. I do agree Jiang Jun has better dodges, though that could be down to sifus poise.
Thank you! 🙂 I think the general consensus is that female Tiandi is somewhat irksome to the community with her voice lines. Thought best to go with the male version.
delayed light dodge 3:39 feint to superior tiger dodge: 4:06 (guranteed palm strike after successful tiger dodge deflect) you can dodge to cancel recover of light and heavy openers 7:17
@@kingconq51 Doesn't have to be a regular thing, but putting stuff out there feels good to do and if you want to do it, you can and will, don't set yourself deadlines and just make something you enjoy. Don't rush. 🙂
I just came here to congratulate you on 1,000 subscribers, congratulations! Can I ask when you will upload a Black Prior guide, if you have plz tell me because I’m awful with BP rn
Thank you! I can't believe it! 🙂 I haven't covered Black Prior yet but I will be getting round to it, have a couple guides in the works at the moment but rest assured I will be covering BP as soon as I can. Thanks for your support!
Fun feature: if you land a palm strike, the follow up heavy cannot be parried, and a delayed chain light after that is 333 ms indicator on console and as such, to my knowledge is unreactible
Very true and when properly delayed, highly likely to be unreactable. Though unless you're locking an opponent down for a team mate, it's usually more beneficial to just get your confirmed light.
Due to the last patch, the Y4S1, a forward tiger dodge hit is garanted after a kick, because Tiandi´s speed has been increased. Great guide, i can see you have a future in this sort of videos.
Really? This is intreresting. That's actually quite a significant buff for Tiandi. Thank you for letting me know and thank you for your feedback. Much appreciated! 🙂
This sadly is only partially true. While the forward dodge light can be delayed further its match up dependant on when you get a punish, if its safe or if you get nothing at all. It's... Pretty finicky
@@Mattman_90 If you want to you can use it I guess... Unless you get a guaranteed punish off of it you should still go for the dodge heavy to get your 400ms light. Mained this hero for 54 reps... Playing him in duel against only slightly passive opponents is still a pain. But I'm also bad at the game so... XD
@@Xyrotec14 Well I'm not going to argue with you at 54 reps. You have much more Tiandi experience than I and I would have to agree that your scenario is preferable but if it could confirm a kill the tiger dodge would be your go to.
@@Godzmin Tiandi basically has bad offense and a lack of flow regarding chain pressure. I'm going to list some changes found in a mega document on reddit titled "Thornbush Reworks For Honor'. Light/Heavy finisher recoveries can now be dodge cancelled. Second attack of the zone can also be dodge cancelled. Dragon Kick accessible from neutral heavies on whiff and chain heavies on hit/whiff/block. Dragon kick confirms forward dodge heavy. Dragon Dodge can now be soft feinted into Dragon kick. Top Dragon Dodge can now be soft feinted into a dodge. Dragon Dodge can no longer be hard feinted. Enhanced property added to neutral light openers. Sprint attack speed increased to 600ms. Dragon Dodge speed increase to 900ms. Dodge soft feints from Dragon Dodge cost no stamina. Dragon Kick speed increased to 700ms. Dragon Kick no longer accessible from Dragon Dodge in hit/block. Forward Dragon Dodge speed increase to 700ms. Tiger Dodge accessible between 100-500ms. Tiger Dodge superior block start up decreased to 0ms. Superior Tiger Dodge no longer confirms palm strike. That's a lot to take it but in a nutshell Tiandi needs pressure tools. I haven't included everything simply because there's too much and these are the ones I strongly agree with. Reduced stamina costs is a must as Tiandi needs to dance around his foes given multiple soft feint options. More dodge options from soft feint make him a dodge specialist. Enhanced lights give easier access to chain attacks, given the ability to dodge 400ms follow ups if the testing grounds changes come, tiandi would have a nice option here being able to tiger dodge people trying to evade a fast chain light. Faster Dragon Dodge gives it better i-frames making it more consistent, making it unable to be hard feinted makes it punishable which is necessary given the multiple buffs. Dragon kick being more accessible and confirming damage makes it a good option in 1v1 while retaining its CC in 4v4. Being able to do it from a finisher also encourages sustainaned offense instead of constantly being forced into neutral. Tiger dodge having better superior block makes it more reliable as a counter and gives Tiandi a choice option should enemies try to interrupt him.
Be formless, shapeless. Like water. If you put water into a cup it becomes the cup, if you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, if you put water into a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water my friend.
A good trick with Tiandi is doing a heavy after your opponent dodge the palm strike and let it go. Your enemy is waiting for a light or a Tiger Dodge, so the heavy will hit if they try to parry in light timing. Don't overuse it, it won't work 2 times in a row against most opponents. Same goes to the Dragon Kick Soft-Faint into tiger dodge
Good advice, a similar trick is useful on a whiffed kick with Nobushi, as you said it's all about reading your opponent and conditioning them. Of course I did try to show why using a follow up light with a whiffed palm strike would be a bad idea. Lol.
@@Mattman_90 Thanks. I hope more people find your guides. A lot of people started playing For Honor recently, so it would be good for the new players to find those tipes of videos
I killed so many people with Last Laugh, this perk is underrated by many people. It can easly turn the tables, for example: during phase 3 on breach its very usefull for clearing annoying commander protectors allowing us to kill him easly.
I will get round to everyone eventually, I currently have a request queue at the moment but I'll add Nuxia too it and get it done as soon as I can. 🙂 Thank you for your kind words, very high praise.
Thank you. 🙂 In the training arena, pause the game and select arena settings, under the arena tab there's a box you can tick called 'Opponent Timing Feedback'.
People do, and it can be punished. Though a follow up heavy will beat out light parry attempts. Have to be careful against heroes with superior lights though.
I may be wrong but if you input a top dragon dodge right after the dragon kick, you can land another heavy, I won't say it's guaranteed but if it isn't then the worst it can happen is getting blocked.
I haven't tested this post CCU, I think you can confirm a tiger dodge after the kick though, but it has to be the latest possible input from the dodge.
For another oos, you can light, forward dodge heavy, soft feint kick into dodge light, bait dodge to gb, if they are still oos, light heavy, if not, heavy
Any tips on landing the extended dodge property lights? Seems to only work 50% of the time. Also, didn't know you could soft feint the heavy kick finisher, thats super useful.
Glad my guide could teach something. :) Do you mean the superior dodge lights? Unfortunately I don't have a ton of great advice however I've found that it's best practiced on attacks you know can't be feinted and give you time to react, mainly dodge attacks like Kensei's and Peacekeeper's for example. Also top attacks are relatively easy to superior light so long as you practice the timing beforehand. Outside of that it's quite unreliable.
My fav combo for Tiandi is side light, forward dodge heavy, feint, dodge forward heavy, commit, soft feint kick into dodge light, wait for a dodge/feint heavy, gb, heavy, 64 damage if all goes well, chip damage for forward dodge heavy because will they really not block? Not 100% sure if all values are 100% correct
@@AA-jp9cj I think his crushing counter needs a more generous window, if it did more damage then it shouldn't confirm a palm strike. More i-frames on those dodge heavies during start up. I would like to see the kick distance shortened enough that Tiandi can confirm a dodge forward heavy/light. Also kick should be a soft feint option like it is during the 2nd part of the zone. Dodge cancel chain finishers. Last but not least, enhanced light openers. Gives better access to 400ms attacks.
Not at all. Like what you like, no judgement here, but given the general dislike for female Tiandi’s voice lines, I thought it best to use the Male version.
It's the event weapon from Black Priors riposte event. Sadly you won't be able to get it anymore. However, check out Prince Yasuke on CZcams, he's a Tiandi main and just uploaded his load outs, you might find something you like there. 🙂
The parry timing? In the training arena, pause the game and select arena settings, under the arena tab there's a box you can tick called 'Opponent Timing Feedback'.
I see you picked a character that has simple punishes so I cannot correct you... I’m offended, guess what, if you don’t have the stam, you can forward throw, stam regen, top heavy, any guard direction light, HA
I would have thought you'd be pleased there's little if not nothing to add to. So I looked at your punish option and it is possible, however it is a very niche circumstance and also dangerous unless it confirmed a kill. Whichever way you do a light heavy, or heavy light, the stamina cost is the same. Your punish is less damaging at 49 damage and is unsafe as it hits during your opponents wake up, if they regain stamina as they wake up, it's a free guard break for them. You can't even make it safe because your chain would have ended. Which is why you would only do this on a confirmed kill. (Less than 2 bars Hp) If you do the punish the instant your stamina starts recharging then you can do the punish at great risk. A second too late and the follow up light attack can be parried and if it is, your stamina would be low enough that you would go out of stamina. So whilst I concede that your punish option is technically correct, it is not a viable option, not safe and if punished could get you killed. The reason I made a guide on Tiandi was because a subscriber asked me to. I make these videos to help people understand the game better and get more enjoyment out of the characters.
@@draco_shifty I have guides on Conqueror and Kensei in my guide playlist already. The conqueror one has a follow up link in it's description to an update too. I will cover Zerk and JJ in due time. Warlord is next on the list at the moment though.
The palm strike is only guaranteed to land if it's used after a superior block tiger dodge or after a parry. Palm strike can be dodged in any other scenario.
I am a main Tiandi, my advise in this scenario is to do an heavy after the palm strike and depending on the situation feint in in another palm strike or let it go
Zhanhu and Tiandi are about the same I think, zhanhu edges out Tiandi with unblockable finishers. As for Musha, he has very high damage attacks, fast heavies and an all guard capable of punishing and cc'ing players in mid trying to unlock zone.
@@Mattman_90 thanks,althoigh after buying both zhanhu and tiandi i can say theyre not realy the same...youre dancing around with tiandi or push proplr with undodgeable combos and mixups,while zhanhu is a hero that quite good for counterattacking plus his range is quite something,still thanks for your pov
My opinion has changed regarding Tiandi since I made this video, after putting more hours in with the character and playing competitively I realised Tiandi needs help, not so much with damage honestly but the character needs more options. Might be a while before the devs help Tiandi out though unfortunately.
@@Nkodtb I think Tiandi is good at ganking because of the kick but in duels tiandi can't do much if the opponent blocks the neutral lights. Try reading the 'Thornbush Reworks For Honor' document on reddit. That's does a much better job at explaining Tiandi’s weaknesses then I can.
@@knightsofhonor949 Tiandi’s slowest heavy from neutral is his top heavy. It's primarily used as your light parry punish and wallsplat option. Tiandi doesn't really have a strong opener so you have to get creative and try to use it expecting it to be blocked to access your 400ms combo lights. There's no really how to use it, you'll find situations to use the whole kit differently from game to a game and it's all a matter of experience.
You could really say that about any hero. Plus there's palm strike and guard break to contend with. You always have the option of back step light attacking to access the 400ms lights, and if the opponent tried to interrupt, you can cancel the recovery into a dodge attack, so you'd either evade or superior tiger dodge. Tiandi can open players up so long as you're creative in your approach and utilise the moveset properly.
@@Mattman_90 Yes but high level players will always dodge the palm strike and gb u. Im a tiandi main myself and at earlier levels he is deadly, but as u face turtles u cannot do anything sadly
@@AA-jp9cj He has better openings than some other heroes, I imagine he will struggle in some match ups but I wouldn't go as far as to say Tiandi is useless at high level.
@@ZeroEffort Depends on the game mode, Conqueror is far superior in duels then 4v4, same with Gladiator. Shinobi has a niche in 4v4 due to his sickle rain gank. Meta picks be damned anyway, I say play whoever you like.
@@Mattman_90 just the fact that u can cancel the kick (wich u can only doge) with UNDOGABLE is unfair. Do i have to continue? I don't find it fun to play because ain't much about mindgame or skills
@@chryic237 Well the thing is that the kick doesn't actually confirm any damage unless there's a wall nearby so it's usually better to take the kick. I play on console and Tiandi can be frustrating to fight against, I've fought them on pc before too and the hero really struggles there. At tournament level play Tiandi really doesn't have much to offer, don't get me wrong I get wrecked by them more often then I'd like but the reality of the game is that all Tiandi can really rely on is those chain lights at 400ms.
@@chryic237 Centurion and Aramusha are easily the weakest heroes in the game right now. Raider is admittedly a little over tuned at least in damage values. Warden is strong. Shinobi needs a rework, his playstyle is kind of all over the place, he needs an easier time attacking but with reduced damage. Peacekeeper and Orochi are good in the right hands but overall they both need a buff. Black Prior is strong, not as much as Warden or Raider but still strong. Nobushi is a mediocre duelist but borderline op in brawls and Dominion. As for the Wu lin, they could use some tweaks here and there but Tiandi is the weakest followed by Nuxia. Shaolin is close to balanced but just needs a couple of damage points knocked off the light after kick. Jiang Jun is pretty balanced to be honest. Who exactly do you play?
Heavy Palm Strike combo counts as an opener Heavy and allows you to continue your chain.
So it does, I was really hoping to get through a guide without a mistake, damn lol. Good point though, I shall pin this so people know.
Avalanche good to know you got my back with corrections lol
MightyMattman90 unfortunate how if I can’t correct you someone else does...
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I was dumb lost my account password. I would love any tricks you can give me!
@Ray Bryson instablaster =)
There are like 3 Tiandi guides that aren't day 1 and this is by far the best one. Your guides are great.
Thank you. 🙂
One of my favorite characters. Annoyingly loud, but visuals and fighting style are very satisfying.
Got to agree, very cool blend of weapon and martial fighting, notoriously mouthy though haha. 😂
No i think the screaming is bad ass
I think it works well that he's so chatty. Considering how many feint options he has, having him shout all his moves might even throw off an inexperienced opponent. Reminds me of a character in a Chinese donghua that constantly yells out false moves to confuse people.
You deserve so many more subs, but everyone starts low
Thank you. 🙂 Doing my best.
He is really fun to use. Basic and versatile, smooth.
He really is, don't see a lot of them online though. Hopefully more people give Tiandi a go.
@@Mattman_90 yeah the wu lin are the least used faction in the game :(
@@irocklalot Certainly seems that way, but that's more likely due to people having the standard version, 15k steel is a lot for a hero you might not be sure about.
That and no Wu Lin faction war.
@@Mattman_90 idk during the ps4 days of play marching fire is $15 which is how i got the wu lin.
Tiandi is in running with Shaolin for my new main. I was a warden and Kensei main.
@@divotslice Glad you're enjoying the characters. During the launch of marching fire they were everywhere but I think the hype died down. I see a lot of shaloins and JJs but barely any tiandi or nuxia.
I main Warden and PK, never could get on with Kensei myself.
Nice video again. I don't play Tiandi, but this is useful for how to counter him. Thanks for the good content as always!
Thank you! That's the best mindset to have, even if you don't play the character, knowing what they can do helps when fighting them.
he's worth 15k gold just for that long kick man . after mastering shaolin , I picked tiandi for some dirty fun in multiple player mode. but I think Nvxia is a lot more fun in duels. the parries and traps are more satisfying than brutal violence..HL for example
by the way you deserve millions of subscribers
I think there's a certain elegance to Wu lin heroes that make them appealing. I prefer JJ and Nuxia to the other two. I do enjoy Tiandi though I am of the impression the character is actually under powered and not balanced like I say in the video.
I'm glad you're enjoying the character and thank you for your kind words. I doubt millions are in my CZcams future but I'm thrilled so many have joined the channel already. 🙂
Finally some love for Wu Lin boiii
All heroes are loved on my channel, except Shugoki, haha that guide has been mainly ignored lol.
MightyMattman90 mainly cus 50/50 spam, nothing shugoki has is good aside from his 50/50
Seriously these guides are fantastic. Recent peacekeeper guide you released made me want to go back and watch all these. Please keep it up!
And by peacekeeper I meant recent nuxia guide cuz i’m dumb
Thank you! Appreciate the feedback and I'm glad you like them. 🙂
Love your guides man, very detailed and they really show off the hero's strengths
Thank you. 🙂
I love this guys voice, like so much. It sounds like the voice that u would hear in a computer voice com in a submarine. Love the content keep it up
Thank you. :)
Just coming back to for honor and you’re content has been fantastic, keep it up dude
Thank you. 🙂 Really appreciate it.
Same here has been very helpful
I just bought the marching fire expansion and this guide helps alot thanks!
Thank you. I'm glad the video was helpful for you. 🙂
Finally a good hero tutorial
Only thing I hate about tiandi is that they call him a dodge specialist when his dodges can be easily countered with a light or gb. I wish his dodge was as safe as kensei because you try to hit or gb a dodge heavy kensei your attacks will just slip off his body and miss and you get hit instead. I was going to main tiandi but his terrible dodging ruined it for me so I mained jj instead his dodge is slightly better lol
His dodges require serious practice, they can be effective when used properly but despite his speciality I think it refers to the many dodge cancel options Tiandi has access to. I do agree Jiang Jun has better dodges, though that could be down to sifus poise.
He also have best executions in the game, this video gave me a lot of info. Thanks u for making such video.
I'm glad the video was helpful to you. :)
Tiandi does have some pretty cool executions!
Im a rep 70 goki main and been looking for someone new to use so this guide was extremely helpful
Damn 70reps of the fat man. You have my respect, far too little people appreciate Goki. I'm glad you found the video helpful. 🙂 Thank you.
@@Mattman_90 been with him since the game dropped. I still pull him out when someone gets cocky with me lol
@@truecountry8915 Can't deal with the THICCness.
With that much dodge attcks, I'm not suprised if tiandi is an assassin
Tiandi’s way too loud to be an assassin lol, certainly the odd one out for vanguards though.
Kensei has heavy elements, Tiandi has assassin elements.
@@SoI_Badguy I agree, though there's a little heavy in Tiandi through superior block tiger dodge.
All the wu Lin are assassins
@@libertyordeath9936 Nuxia would disagree with you lol.
Disappointed by lack of fem tiandi and her hilarious screeching
10/10 guide though, subbing for sure
Thank you! 🙂 I think the general consensus is that female Tiandi is somewhat irksome to the community with her voice lines. Thought best to go with the male version.
Wow ur channel is blowing up! You almost have 1k subs wow. I have been here since 200 subs
Thanks to great people like yourself and others. I can't believe it's growing the rate it is. Thank you for the support.
Tyvm for these amazing guides bro 10/10 , you deserve way more credit keep up the good work 👍🏻
Thank you. Its feedback like this that motivates me to make more! 🙂
Very useful / comprehensive guide, appreciate your commentary! ♥
Thank you! Glad it was helpful! 🙂
delayed light dodge 3:39
feint to superior tiger dodge: 4:06
(guranteed palm strike after successful tiger dodge deflect)
you can dodge to cancel recover of light and heavy openers 7:17
Great vid can’t wait to see the next one
Thank you 🙂
Saw Your Video As Soon As I Searched Tiandi Guide! Great Content Keep It Up
Thank you! I'm doing the best I can.
I like this video.
Well explained, clear voice, good demonstrations and serious.
5 Stars out of 5.
5/5
Thank you. :)
Sorry for the late reply.
As usual dude an amazing video. Nearly 900 subscribers dude nearly the 1k milestone, keep it up 👍🏻
Thank you! 🙂 I can't believe it.
Well you definitely put more effort in than I could, so you deserve it 😁 I just couldn’t give my channel the time it needed
@@kingconq51 Doesn't have to be a regular thing, but putting stuff out there feels good to do and if you want to do it, you can and will, don't set yourself deadlines and just make something you enjoy. Don't rush. 🙂
@@Mattman_90 true, just make some, and make it good. As example, calebcity
Underrated CZcamsr
Thank you!
I just came here to congratulate you on 1,000 subscribers, congratulations! Can I ask when you will upload a Black Prior guide, if you have plz tell me because I’m awful with BP rn
Thank you! I can't believe it! 🙂
I haven't covered Black Prior yet but I will be getting round to it, have a couple guides in the works at the moment but rest assured I will be covering BP as soon as I can.
Thanks for your support!
MightyMattman90 alright man I hope the guides come out soon and thanks for responding 👍
@@danielkocjancic4911 I will do my best!
Fun feature: if you land a palm strike, the follow up heavy cannot be parried, and a delayed chain light after that is 333 ms indicator on console and as such, to my knowledge is unreactible
Very true and when properly delayed, highly likely to be unreactable. Though unless you're locking an opponent down for a team mate, it's usually more beneficial to just get your confirmed light.
Due to the last patch, the Y4S1, a forward tiger dodge hit is garanted after a kick, because Tiandi´s speed has been increased.
Great guide, i can see you have a future in this sort of videos.
Really? This is intreresting. That's actually quite a significant buff for Tiandi. Thank you for letting me know and thank you for your feedback. Much appreciated! 🙂
This sadly is only partially true. While the forward dodge light can be delayed further its match up dependant on when you get a punish, if its safe or if you get nothing at all.
It's... Pretty finicky
@@Xyrotec14 Yes I have noticed it. Basically only really useful as a kill shot or when the opponent will not recover stamina in time.
@@Mattman_90 If you want to you can use it I guess... Unless you get a guaranteed punish off of it you should still go for the dodge heavy to get your 400ms light.
Mained this hero for 54 reps... Playing him in duel against only slightly passive opponents is still a pain. But I'm also bad at the game so... XD
@@Xyrotec14 Well I'm not going to argue with you at 54 reps. You have much more Tiandi experience than I and I would have to agree that your scenario is preferable but if it could confirm a kill the tiger dodge would be your go to.
so happy i found this! thanks!
Glad it helped! 🙂
Me: exists
female tiandi: QUIQUILIUDIAE!
😂 She is a bit of a loudmouth.
Tiandi is a monster when you start using faints such a good character
Tiandi is very stylish and can confound enemies if used correctly. I'd like to see the character recieve some buffs though.
What do you think would be a balanced buff?
@@Godzmin Tiandi basically has bad offense and a lack of flow regarding chain pressure. I'm going to list some changes found in a mega document on reddit titled "Thornbush Reworks For Honor'.
Light/Heavy finisher recoveries can now be dodge cancelled.
Second attack of the zone can also be dodge cancelled.
Dragon Kick accessible from neutral heavies on whiff and chain heavies on hit/whiff/block.
Dragon kick confirms forward dodge heavy.
Dragon Dodge can now be soft feinted into Dragon kick.
Top Dragon Dodge can now be soft feinted into a dodge.
Dragon Dodge can no longer be hard feinted.
Enhanced property added to neutral light openers.
Sprint attack speed increased to 600ms.
Dragon Dodge speed increase to 900ms.
Dodge soft feints from Dragon Dodge cost no stamina.
Dragon Kick speed increased to 700ms.
Dragon Kick no longer accessible from Dragon Dodge in hit/block.
Forward Dragon Dodge speed increase to 700ms.
Tiger Dodge accessible between 100-500ms.
Tiger Dodge superior block start up decreased to 0ms.
Superior Tiger Dodge no longer confirms palm strike.
That's a lot to take it but in a nutshell Tiandi needs pressure tools. I haven't included everything simply because there's too much and these are the ones I strongly agree with.
Reduced stamina costs is a must as Tiandi needs to dance around his foes given multiple soft feint options. More dodge options from soft feint make him a dodge specialist. Enhanced lights give easier access to chain attacks, given the ability to dodge 400ms follow ups if the testing grounds changes come, tiandi would have a nice option here being able to tiger dodge people trying to evade a fast chain light.
Faster Dragon Dodge gives it better i-frames making it more consistent, making it unable to be hard feinted makes it punishable which is necessary given the multiple buffs.
Dragon kick being more accessible and confirming damage makes it a good option in 1v1 while retaining its CC in 4v4. Being able to do it from a finisher also encourages sustainaned offense instead of constantly being forced into neutral.
Tiger dodge having better superior block makes it more reliable as a counter and gives Tiandi a choice option should enemies try to interrupt him.
I want to learn this warrior but the thought of being forced to hear him screaming every single match just kills it for me.
😂 Well you can turn voice lines off in the settings.
@@Mattman_90 Will definitely do that. I can only hear "SHA FWEE FWEE YIM YIM!!!!!!" So many times before I want to shove a pencil in my ears.
@@Seneschal_Grigori Haha 😂. Glad I could help.
He needs a water effect so i can get my true bruce lee look
Be formless, shapeless. Like water. If you put water into a cup it becomes the cup, if you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, if you put water into a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water my friend.
A good trick with Tiandi is doing a heavy after your opponent dodge the palm strike and let it go. Your enemy is waiting for a light or a Tiger Dodge, so the heavy will hit if they try to parry in light timing. Don't overuse it, it won't work 2 times in a row against most opponents. Same goes to the Dragon Kick Soft-Faint into tiger dodge
Good advice, a similar trick is useful on a whiffed kick with Nobushi, as you said it's all about reading your opponent and conditioning them. Of course I did try to show why using a follow up light with a whiffed palm strike would be a bad idea. Lol.
@@Mattman_90 Thanks. I hope more people find your guides. A lot of people started playing For Honor recently, so it would be good for the new players to find those tipes of videos
@@avy6153 Indeed, and thank you. 🙂
@@Mattman_90 you're welcome
Mine is rep 8, honestly probably my fav Wu Lin
I really like Tiandi's aesthetic, I do hope he gets some dev attention to fix him up a bit. My favourite used to be JJ, but now it's Nuxia.
I killed so many people with Last Laugh, this perk is underrated by many people. It can easly turn the tables, for example: during phase 3 on breach its very usefull for clearing annoying commander protectors allowing us to kill him easly.
Oh I very much agree, I just prefer to run Indomitable. Last laugh is my pick for peacekeeper though for that very reason.
Definently my favorite for honor youtuber. Could you possibly do a nuxia guide soon?
I will get round to everyone eventually, I currently have a request queue at the moment but I'll add Nuxia too it and get it done as soon as I can. 🙂 Thank you for your kind words, very high praise.
Very good videos i just subscribed 😉👍
Thank you. 🙂
MightyMattman90 you‘re welcome 🙏
Noice gamer
Great video. May I ask how does your opponent's attacks carry a meter showing you your parry effectiveness (I am assuming)?
Thank you. 🙂 In the training arena, pause the game and select arena settings, under the arena tab there's a box you can tick called 'Opponent Timing Feedback'.
The best part is that he can dance :)
The worst part is he dances better than he fights. Tiandi needs love from the devs.
Wow! Nice guide thanks!
Thank you. :)
Sorry for the late reply.
people almost always expect a wiffed palm strike to be a light attack after
People do, and it can be punished. Though a follow up heavy will beat out light parry attempts. Have to be careful against heroes with superior lights though.
I may be wrong but if you input a top dragon dodge right after the dragon kick, you can land another heavy, I won't say it's guaranteed but if it isn't then the worst it can happen is getting blocked.
I haven't tested this post CCU, I think you can confirm a tiger dodge after the kick though, but it has to be the latest possible input from the dodge.
ur views have gone way up, very epic
Nice guide
Thank you. 🙂
Congrats on 1k
Thank you. 🙂
Great vid
Thank you. 🙂
Thank you!! Subbed💪🏾
Thank you! 🙂
Thank you
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Don’t know why i’m watching this. I’m a Tiandi main currently
I'm pleased you watched it regardless. 🙂
For another oos, you can light, forward dodge heavy, soft feint kick into dodge light, bait dodge to gb, if they are still oos, light heavy, if not, heavy
There are always more options for oos punishes, I just showed what was optimal in terms of confirmed damage.
You should have about more subs but you just have to keep climbing and get to that 1 million
Thank you for your kind words. 🙂 I'm not sure about 1 million! I'm just happy people enjoy my content. 👍
Any tips on landing the extended dodge property lights? Seems to only work 50% of the time.
Also, didn't know you could soft feint the heavy kick finisher, thats super useful.
Glad my guide could teach something. :) Do you mean the superior dodge lights? Unfortunately I don't have a ton of great advice however I've found that it's best practiced on attacks you know can't be feinted and give you time to react, mainly dodge attacks like Kensei's and Peacekeeper's for example. Also top attacks are relatively easy to superior light so long as you practice the timing beforehand. Outside of that it's quite unreliable.
I played tiandi too much time and i can say that he is the best hero in for honor
A lot of fun for sure and certainly one of the more balanced heroes.
Awesome, my next character
Show them all the fury and grace of Tiandi!
Me too though I fell bad about how load he is
My fav combo for Tiandi is side light, forward dodge heavy, feint, dodge forward heavy, commit, soft feint kick into dodge light, wait for a dodge/feint heavy, gb, heavy, 64 damage if all goes well, chip damage for forward dodge heavy because will they really not block? Not 100% sure if all values are 100% correct
Your tiandi looks almost EXACTLY like mine... except mine is a woman lmao
I decided to use the man for the guide as Female Tiandi is notorious for her voice lines haha. 😅
diehard096 AYE POYPOY YENDAY!
Why would someone use a female Tiandi?
Tiandi is a C tier duelist. And then there is this video
Yeah I'm aware Tiandi isn't very good. Kind of learned that side of the hero after I made this. Hopefully they buff Tiandi.
@@Mattman_90 500ms bash, dodge heavy being less gb vulnerable more CC damage and im happy. He needs something to make him less predictable
@@AA-jp9cj I think his crushing counter needs a more generous window, if it did more damage then it shouldn't confirm a palm strike.
More i-frames on those dodge heavies during start up. I would like to see the kick distance shortened enough that Tiandi can confirm a dodge forward heavy/light.
Also kick should be a soft feint option like it is during the 2nd part of the zone.
Dodge cancel chain finishers. Last but not least, enhanced light openers. Gives better access to 400ms attacks.
Is it wrong that I like female Tiandi's voice lines
Not at all. Like what you like, no judgement here, but given the general dislike for female Tiandi’s voice lines, I thought it best to use the Male version.
Rang ni hue fue yen meh!
@@snake5850 rang ni hui fei yan mie让你灰飞烟灭👌🏻
@@joeli2538 danke schon
@@snake5850 well come
he is the best vanguard
He's certainly fun! Unfortunately though from a competitive point of view he's currently the weakest.
I subbed
Thank you kindly. 🙂
I wanna main tiandi only because i think his voice lines are funny
Good enough reason as any 😂
I used to hate Tiandi for a very long time since I got creamed by him. Honestly I just wish my mains were as good as him.
He's not too bad, at higher level play he can struggle to open because of 600ms palm strike. Fun character but not for me. Who are your other mains?
Palm strike , heavy , kick ,
May I ask what sword you use for the tiandi? I dont think I've unlocked it yet... it looks great!
It's the event weapon from Black Priors riposte event. Sadly you won't be able to get it anymore.
However, check out Prince Yasuke on CZcams, he's a Tiandi main and just uploaded his load outs, you might find something you like there. 🙂
@@Mattman_90 thank you so much!
Could you make a guide how to counter every hero in the game with like 1 or 2 tips.
It's definitely something I will look into, I'm going to run out of characters to cover after all!
@@Mattman_90 Hahah that is true:)
@@hardmasternl Working on a special guide at the moment, hoping to release it on 1000subs if I get there.
@@Mattman_90 you get there definitly
What’s that setting that gives perfect timing
The parry timing?
In the training arena, pause the game and select arena settings, under the arena tab there's a box you can tick called 'Opponent Timing Feedback'.
Can I say I’m first?
Unequivocally and uncontested. 🙂
I see you picked a character that has simple punishes so I cannot correct you... I’m offended, guess what, if you don’t have the stam, you can forward throw, stam regen, top heavy, any guard direction light, HA
I would have thought you'd be pleased there's little if not nothing to add to.
So I looked at your punish option and it is possible, however it is a very niche circumstance and also dangerous unless it confirmed a kill.
Whichever way you do a light heavy, or heavy light, the stamina cost is the same. Your punish is less damaging at 49 damage and is unsafe as it hits during your opponents wake up, if they regain stamina as they wake up, it's a free guard break for them. You can't even make it safe because your chain would have ended. Which is why you would only do this on a confirmed kill. (Less than 2 bars Hp)
If you do the punish the instant your stamina starts recharging then you can do the punish at great risk. A second too late and the follow up light attack can be parried and if it is, your stamina would be low enough that you would go out of stamina.
So whilst I concede that your punish option is technically correct, it is not a viable option, not safe and if punished could get you killed.
The reason I made a guide on Tiandi was because a subscriber asked me to. I make these videos to help people understand the game better and get more enjoyment out of the characters.
MightyMattman90 thanks for telling me, just, ive never landed a gb on a Tiandi who did this, can you make a guide on JJ, conq, zerk, or kensei please
@@draco_shifty I have guides on Conqueror and Kensei in my guide playlist already. The conqueror one has a follow up link in it's description to an update too.
I will cover Zerk and JJ in due time. Warlord is next on the list at the moment though.
Please tell me what skin he is wearing
Sorry for the late reply. The skin is the outfit earned at reputation 2.
69 dmg
Nice
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@@Mattman_90 indeed
How to fuck do you have only 800 subscribers?!
Sorry for the late reply!
At the time, I have no idea! But I'm very pleased people keep coming. Thank you. :)
Make a berserker guide!
I will in due time, someone already beat you to the next guide request but I'll queue up Zerk for after. 🙂
@@Mattman_90 Wohooo!! Thank you!
i tired to do a light palm strike combo, but this raider dodged my palm strike, im very confusion
The palm strike is only guaranteed to land if it's used after a superior block tiger dodge or after a parry.
Palm strike can be dodged in any other scenario.
I am a main Tiandi, my advise in this scenario is to do an heavy after the palm strike and depending on the situation feint in in another palm strike or let it go
And a kick from super smash bros 🤣
Well, Tiandi does yeet his opponent pretty far!
i wish i picked this guy at the beginning instead of aramusha...
Well you can always play both! Aramusha I think is a stronger character than Tiandi though.
@@Mattman_90 what realy ? why ?
@@Mattman_90 and also : is he zhan hu better than taindi or the other way around ?
Zhanhu and Tiandi are about the same I think, zhanhu edges out Tiandi with unblockable finishers. As for Musha, he has very high damage attacks, fast heavies and an all guard capable of punishing and cc'ing players in mid trying to unlock zone.
@@Mattman_90 thanks,althoigh after buying both zhanhu and tiandi i can say theyre not realy the same...youre dancing around with tiandi or push proplr with undodgeable combos and mixups,while zhanhu is a hero that quite good for counterattacking plus his range is quite something,still thanks for your pov
Subscribe you are awesome
Thank you. :)
Sorry for the late reply.
He needs better damage tbh hes not bad tho
My opinion has changed regarding Tiandi since I made this video, after putting more hours in with the character and playing competitively I realised Tiandi needs help, not so much with damage honestly but the character needs more options.
Might be a while before the devs help Tiandi out though unfortunately.
@@Mattman_90 yes more options is probably better than more damage 👍
@@Nkodtb Maybe one day Tiandi will have some better tools. At the moment though the hero is underwhelming without chain lights.
@@Mattman_90 my only complaint is that he struggles in 4v4s but i think hes fine in duels. Getting kills in 4s takes time for him imo.
@@Nkodtb I think Tiandi is good at ganking because of the kick but in duels tiandi can't do much if the opponent blocks the neutral lights.
Try reading the 'Thornbush Reworks For Honor' document on reddit. That's does a much better job at explaining Tiandi’s weaknesses then I can.
Just pov them
How do I manage his slow heavy
What do you mean by manage?
@@Mattman_90 use it since it's so slow
@@knightsofhonor949 Tiandi’s slowest heavy from neutral is his top heavy. It's primarily used as your light parry punish and wallsplat option. Tiandi doesn't really have a strong opener so you have to get creative and try to use it expecting it to be blocked to access your 400ms combo lights. There's no really how to use it, you'll find situations to use the whole kit differently from game to a game and it's all a matter of experience.
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Tiandi is useless if the oponent is good at blocking and parrying
You could really say that about any hero. Plus there's palm strike and guard break to contend with.
You always have the option of back step light attacking to access the 400ms lights, and if the opponent tried to interrupt, you can cancel the recovery into a dodge attack, so you'd either evade or superior tiger dodge.
Tiandi can open players up so long as you're creative in your approach and utilise the moveset properly.
@@Mattman_90 Yes but high level players will always dodge the palm strike and gb u. Im a tiandi main myself and at earlier levels he is deadly, but as u face turtles u cannot do anything sadly
@@AA-jp9cj He has better openings than some other heroes, I imagine he will struggle in some match ups but I wouldn't go as far as to say Tiandi is useless at high level.
So is almost every hero other than maybe Glad, Shinobi and Conq.
@@ZeroEffort Depends on the game mode, Conqueror is far superior in duels then 4v4, same with Gladiator. Shinobi has a niche in 4v4 due to his sickle rain gank.
Meta picks be damned anyway, I say play whoever you like.
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Tiandi ain't fun and it's free damage
Free damage? Well whether or not you find Tiandi fun or not is a matter of opinion.
@@Mattman_90 just the fact that u can cancel the kick (wich u can only doge) with UNDOGABLE is unfair. Do i have to continue?
I don't find it fun to play because ain't much about mindgame or skills
@@chryic237 Well the thing is that the kick doesn't actually confirm any damage unless there's a wall nearby so it's usually better to take the kick. I play on console and Tiandi can be frustrating to fight against, I've fought them on pc before too and the hero really struggles there.
At tournament level play Tiandi really doesn't have much to offer, don't get me wrong I get wrecked by them more often then I'd like but the reality of the game is that all Tiandi can really rely on is those chain lights at 400ms.
@@Mattman_90 so many wrong heroes in this game. Wu lin, shinobi, aramusha, orochi, nobushi, raider, black prior, centurion, warden and pk
@@chryic237 Centurion and Aramusha are easily the weakest heroes in the game right now. Raider is admittedly a little over tuned at least in damage values.
Warden is strong.
Shinobi needs a rework, his playstyle is kind of all over the place, he needs an easier time attacking but with reduced damage.
Peacekeeper and Orochi are good in the right hands but overall they both need a buff.
Black Prior is strong, not as much as Warden or Raider but still strong.
Nobushi is a mediocre duelist but borderline op in brawls and Dominion.
As for the Wu lin, they could use some tweaks here and there but Tiandi is the weakest followed by Nuxia. Shaolin is close to balanced but just needs a couple of damage points knocked off the light after kick.
Jiang Jun is pretty balanced to be honest. Who exactly do you play?
Thank you
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