But can a 3"+ barreled 10MM or larger caliber blast through it? Even with that statement they gave, is it for just 1 round? Can two successive rounds pierce it?
Right? I was like, "Oh, is got two rows on each side? That could be a cha- nope. He wasn't even phased. Just whipped out the wave rake and went to town. Opened it right up."
Curious adolescent! My parents used to store Christmas presents in a room off the basement, "protected" with a Master padlock. I found a small file (turns out it was a points file for a distributor back in the day). It was just a flat piece of steel and the handle was simply the smooth part of the steel with a circular profile on the end. I found that all it took was to insert this back part into the lock and twist to open -- no jiggling or anything. I was 10 when I found the file and it worked for three years before my father got wise and put a combination lock on the door.
You were 13 when you found the gap gauge and it worked for two years before your father got wiser and put a non-MasterLock lock on the door. But you used that gap gauge again- this time as a shim, to disengage the locking bar from the locking mechanism and rendered any means of your father's attempt to keep the presents secured till Christmas futile.
I learned in high school that you could cut a soda can into a shim and pop any master lock open faster than using the actual combo. As a senior prank, somebody opened every single locker and shifted all the locks one to the left.
I guarantee one exists, but it's the one he uses for his guns, so he's not going to feature that on his channel. He's too security conscious to tell people what safe his guns are in.
Very few products marketed as "gun safes" are actually decent. While I don't think that LPL has any he's really liked, Bosnian Bill featured a pistol case that he liked well enough. Most professionals recommend purchasing a true time-rated safe if one wants to store something truly securely. Every safe is subject to vulnerability but true time-rated safes are supposed to resist penetration efforts by skilled attackers for the duration of the time rating, and that includes destructive entry. Trouble is, such safes are usually incredibly heavy and require professional installation to properly bolt them down, and may not be suitable for floors in homes supported by wooden joists. They may need to be installed onto concrete slabs, which means that such safes may not be readily installed in master bedrooms.
That second Vaultek one he did a video on seems to fit that; no easy bypass and a disc detainer core that requires a skilled picker to get open. Like he said in that video though, almost no gun safe is gonna hold up to a destructive attack because part of the selling point for most of them is being somewhat portable.
I think you might have misunderstood the meaning of "gun safe" in this case. The clue is in the marketing: "can resist 9mm bullets fired from a Glock-19". Clearly, the safe is not meant to keep your gun safe, but keep your other valuables safe from burglars equipped with only a gun, hence it is "gun safe".
No, clearly it's defending against the fact that a gun is always loaded and could go off at any time. It's to resist the gun that is stored inside from randomly shooting you.
I guess it's good if you're worried about someone shooting your safe to open it lol. I mean they could just rake the core and save some bullets, especially at the prices ammo is right now/
And while breaking you out with his picks you hear him say Nothing on one, two, 3 is binding, nothing on 4, a little counter rotation on 5, and we got this open
"Can resist 9 mm bullets" is an odd claim for such a product. Why would you try to shoot it open, if you already have a gun? Anyway, this claim should be tested.
Probably just as a comparison because "can resist a guy banging it with a hammer" would immediately spark questions like "what kind of hammer? how big? How strong is the guy?"
The curious adolescent is concerned with getting into trouble for breaking it. The disgruntled partner would probably not care and resort to destructive attacks. The idiot who lost the key could go either way depending on how much they spent on the thing and how long ago they bought it.
Finding your screwdriver could take longer. That also makes me wonder how many of these could be picked in the time it takes someone to find their car keys, phone and wallet?
@@ToreDL87 Yeah, it is not like he did fire on a lock in the past or something (look at video 944 for example). He would get utterly rekt by CZcams for sure. lel
When a safe offers several ways of unlocking it, it's only as secure as its weakest method. I agree that this safe could probably be opened by a curious teenager with improvised tools. Maybe a couple of paper clips would do the trick. It's like a house with an impressive front door lock and a primitive lock on the back door.
My neighbor put Steel doors on his house because he has a large gun collection - yet side glass window in his garage and a regular door between the garage and house......
I betcha the weakest link is actually the fingerprint lock, which could probably be bypassed by a curious teenager armed with cellophane tape and a bit more “secret” knowledge of how to use it - and the alarm wouldn’t even trigger.
I still love that the standard for any gun lock or safe is the “curious adolescent”. Reminds me of when I took those business law classes many moons ago in college, where the standard for Tort cases was the average reasonable human.
I really suspect many of those safes and locks regardless of jurisdiction are merely there to comply with whatever legal requirements there might be. It might be a very crappy lock, but if it meets some kind of certification and you can legally keep it in there most people will consider that good enough. LPL is right about "curious adolescent" in the video, those are probably an important thing to be concerned about. And if they live in the same residence they'll have plenty of time to find/learn about the hidden location just by observation. That said in such a scenario a decent well designed lock would definitely be desirable regardless of cheaper options are legally compliant.
The only real solution in physical security is to make it not worth doing. For example, as you mention, a safe sufficiently bolted down and well-hidden is a start. I would also recommend further safeguards (layered security). Examples would be cameras (to discourage a stealthy attack), a house alarm (to give urgency), and strong door locks on the house itself. Also, the gun safe should be in a room that is kept locked, and when children are home, an adult should be home as well. &c.
The safest solution is not owning a gun. If you need to have one, make sure to store gun and ammunition separately in a secure location that children can't access unnoticed. Make sure to teach them how to handle a firearm respectfully.
Love the marketing blurb about withstanding a 9mm fired from a Glock, because while it does sound tough, it doesn't make much sense. If you already have a Glock in your hands, why break into a gun safe?
Maybe it is to protect you if the weapon discharged while in the safe. Not sure how that would happen, or who would leave a loaded weapon in a safe, but that might be the thought process to having it resistant to 9mm ammunition.
There are voice activated locks. I do remember someone who had one between his garage and home which opened to "It's me. Open the F**king door!" in a had a bad day at work tone. He knew this wasn't a drastically secure lock, but by the time they'd got past his gate and garage, if they were detirmined to get into the house they could.
@@mpek1992 I'm not sure, I read the CS Lewis novel, "The Fluorescent Light, the Hydraulic Cutters, and the Fahgeddaboudit" [LPL 797 had a loooong pause where I am sure he was thinking of at least six Latin pejoratives]
I got a pre-roll ad for MAXSafes gun safes. LPL should do a review on them - it would help to show he is not disinclined to honestly review a 'sponsor'.
Looks like the box is big enough to store something like a portable game system. Wrap _this_ thing under the tree for a kid and it's the ultimate puzzle box: if they can get in _without_ you hearing the alarm, they get it. Otherwise, Mario is going with _you,_ at least for that day.
"I don't think it's gonna make picking a whole lot harder..." ... so you just have more pins to pick, right? "... all we need to do is to rake both sides of the keyway." Wait, rake? Damn, that bad huh...
@@edderiofer I'll keep that in mind. I'm a relative newbie to LPL's videos and the only lock type I recognize are disc detainers because that's when the "pick Bonsian Bill and I made" comes out lol
@@golasticus Ah, fair. If you watch a bunch of his videos over the past year or so, you'll see that basically every wafer lock he's been given, he's raked instead of picked.
I'd love to see a video on modifying one of these amazon gun safes to make them reasonably pick resistant or at least safe from adolescents? Thanks! :)
I love how he shows people how to break in and he even sells the break in tools. Even this video he shows you how to get into a gun safe while blocking the speaker.
@@thegovernor184 My girlfriend works at a law office that is in an old bank. They use the safe to hold their archived paperwork. Maybe there are other already closed banks near the LPL.
After watching a lot of your videos, I felt inspired to give lockpicking a go. I bought a practise set of Amazon and after many failed attempts, managed to teach myself how to pick a basic padlock that wasn't transparent. I just want to say thank you for your content as I find it incredibly interesting :)
This reminds me of the security potential of a big dog that can stand up on his hind legs, put his paws on the shoulders of a 6ft tall man and look him straight in the eye. The visual deterrent factor has a lot to do with it's effectiveness. The dog may be friendly 'once' he knows you, but something barking at you with the jaw strength to crush your forearm will make you keep walking.
I know a couple guys who live in a sketchy part of town, and used to deal with break-ins all the time. Then they got an irish wolfhound who had a penchant for scratching at the wall beside the back door when he wanted to come in. Apparently looking through the window and seeing a dog that hangs off both sides of a standard sofa and claw marks by the back door that start at the ceiling and run to the floor is a FANTASTIC deterrent, because they never had another break-in. And the dog was a big softy, too.
Yeah, you need a pretty dedicated thief to be like "You know, I'm going to go for the house with the 100 pound rottweiler" rather than the house next door.
Me: *watching and enjoying the new LPL video as I always do* LPL: “If you like this video and would like to see more like it, please subscribe, and as always, have a nice day.” Me: *pausing* “thank you?” In any case, I’m always happy to watch, LPL. You don’t have to mention it 😁
I always enjoy your videos. Very quick to the point and always up front about what you do and how to do it. Thank you! One thing I saw in this video is the button that you can probably push quicker than removing the battery.
With the money you spent on the gun, basically *anything* that doesn't serve the purpose of killing people. 100 pounds of chocolate, for example. As a bonus, you don't need to worry about gun safety 👍
Well, 99.999 percent of the population doesn't own the tools or have the skills to bypass this lock, most particularly anyone the owner might know. A higher percentage of professional thieves might be able to pick this, but why wouldn't they just take the whole gun safe with them and work on it later?
Basic security principle is you have to trade convenience for security. You could have it disassembled and parts stored separately, or unloaded and separate from ammo, or just leave it loaded wherever. Safety, always off.
or glue a second battery case with empty batteries on top of the real one. until the attacker notices why pulling the battery does not silence the attack it will howl. also a second loudspeaker at the back would be an improvement... if the thing is bolted at a wall and the bottom loudspeaker sits over a hole in said wall good luck covering both loudspeakers...
Lock picking lawyer I really enjoy all your few minute bits on CZcams, very informative for me and learning something every time, I am a door jack mechanic, carpenter I deal with a lot of door hardware‘s old ones new ones sometimes I have to repair them or make changes right on the spot like re-key key alike keys broke off right in lock and some of your skills and methods are just so helpful,
As always, thorough instruction does more for safety than any comercially available gun lock product. (And even most non comercially available products. See his video about the gun lock intended for mounting in patrol cars.)
Мне такие ящики, больше всего напоминают тот мультик с банком. Внутри показывается демонстрация, что мол, банк самый защищенный, его нельзя ни взломать, ни взорвать, и поэтому украсть что-то из него невозможно. Куча вспышек, все довольные расходятся. И потом показывают бабушку, которая убирает мусор в банке, и выходит через заднюю дверь, закрыв ее простой щеколдой.
Мужчина купил пистолет, женщина заставила его достать оружейный сейф. Выглядит неплохо. Это не должно на самом деле работать. Это на некоторое время сходит ее с его спины.
I feel like the problem with a lot of these safes is that they intend the key to just be a backup, so they don't give it the attention they should, as it's more of an afterthought. Even this one, the key was a nice design and the alarm sounding is a good alert for if it's picked, but the tolerances were apparently pretty low and the alarm is too easily defeated so it is effectively pointless if you do any research.
@@natethegr8230 If it was just built to comply with the laws, most likely it'd be out of much cheaper materials, and would have a more basic design, since most places with such laws only have vague wording that leaves a lot of wiggle room. More so, the people who buy purely for compliance reasons, tend to go for whatever the cheapest option they can get away with is. This safe comes off more as an attempt to provide enough security to warrant a higher price point, but with corners cut in the actual implementation. The alarm only having a single easily coverable speaker is another issue. Most safes of this type don't even include an alarm, so it being there would likely make the product more marketable, but the implementation ruins its actual effectiveness.
Yeah, I've yet to see a gun safe on this channel that I'd secure a squirt gun in, let alone a real one. I'm very fortunate that there is literally no one that would be after a gun in my home. No kids, no visitors, no one but the cats, and they, so far, have been defeated by the holster. Other than when I'm sleeping, my gun is on my hip, so, yeah. Not gonna drop hundreds of dollars on a 'safe' that can be opened with a bread twist tie faster that with the key/combination. Thank, LPL, for showing us yet another Unsafe safe to avoid.
In your case and really many other people a simple closet with a simple lock much more safe than a safe. These safes are dirt cheap and offer almost nothing. Really if you wanted something a bit better than a key lock you could install some sort of magnet sliding pin type thing. I am not sure how easy it would be yet in my mind its quite easy. Its just another layer one would have to defeat.
@@sheumack Both my cat and my roommate/landlord's cat seem to like me a lot. I make it a point to get thin, fresh deli slices, roast beef, turkey and chicken (no processed or spiced stuffs) and give them lots of little easy to chew sized bites. I learned long ago the way to keep a kitty's claws sheathed is yummies in their tummies.
Your every video increases my blood pressure as it makes me seriously worry about the security of my Shop, warehouse and home... yet I CZcams sends me your video recommendations every time I open CZcams... And everytime I end up watching it.....
A thief will just take the whole safe and saw it open later if they can't pick it. Your own kids, though, are a lot less likely to try destroying the safe because they're trying to get in without getting caught.
@@gatherer818 my point is, LPL and I are both American. That adolescent who wants to break into a gun safe is more likely to bring the gun to school than "be curious"
@@kutsen39 I'm not entirely sure your statement is correct. Lots of curious kids in the USA just want to know what is in something, without wanting to do harm. This is especially true, if the contents of said Gun safe are not apparent to the kid in question.
Just because it is advertised as such, does not mean that it will be used that way. It could contain a collection of dirty magazines to keep away from a significant other. That is worth a sunken treasure galleon to a teen!
@@kutsen39 I think it's at least as likely to be a kid who wants to play with it or show it off to their friends because they think guns are cool. Not all gun deaths are intentional.
What I think is funny is the first time I saw this video, I got an ad for a gun safe that LPL already covered and essentially said “Don’t buy this, it’s a piece of trash.” 🤣
Assuming you superglued the key lock, how secure are the keypad and fingerprint locks? I know a lot of them use a solenoid that can be bypassed with a strong magnet. Also, some fingerprint readers are easily vulnerable to a print lifted from a surface.
I have never understood why someone would want a safe with so many ways to open it. I understand having the physical key lock incase the electronic system runs out of battery. But any amount of opening methods over 2, and you're just making it easier for a thief to get in.
Your comment about a curious teenager reminds me of my youth. I have friends whose Father legally owned full auto machine guns. We NEVER considered "playing" with those. When we were at a designated shooting range we would use firearms. When we were hunting we would use firearms. We NEVER used firearms in anger. We would play with the two Toledo made display swords.
@@stevemathis3092 it has a USB c port on it, I assume that would allow it to be charged or powered externally for those situations and is not just for programming the lock
I feel like many neat ideas get poorly executed like this dual key. It seemed so good in theory but then you mentioned it uses wafers. Would it kill manufacturers to have a core decent enough that a “curious adolescent” would give up?
Most of the biometric locks require you to orient your finger exactly the same way each time for it to work. You can record the fingerprint in different orientations so it works if you're from either side, or above the unit. Also, most locks have a limit for how many prints it will record. A little more smarts in the lock would make the finger print detector more of a plus.
Ignoring the glaring flaws in these gun safes, I also just imagine someone fumbling around half asleep in the dark trying to open their gun safe while an intruder just boinks them over the head with whatever is laying around, most likely the gun safe.
It's less than 3 mins, haven't watched it but I bet he explains it for 1 and a half, opens it in 15 and plugs covert instuments and has some last notes for all the remaining time
I'm pretty sure the ad right before this video was for this exact product. It made it look pretty good. But knowing this was LPL, I was like "well, this won't be great for your marketing." Did not disappoint!
What I find just as scary is the USB-C next to it… This means you have direct access to the controller with a computer. So there are now two demographics that can open this (anyone with ok Linux skills, and anyone with ok raking skills)
I realize that this is about locks. But gun safes are shown significantly often, so I take the liberty of commenting on this. (Almost) every firearms safe review ends with the statement, "Nothing I would trust to match the curiosity of adolescents". I totally agree. Firearms should be kept around civilians as rarely as possible. (German point of view)
Also not inconsistent with what’s actually in the US Constitution, which mentions “militia” and although the term “well-regulated” certainly didn’t have the same meaning then as today, it’s unlikely that any of them would agree with the current interpretation where “militia” means nutcase and “well-regulated” means “not in any sense regulated.”
I agree Also, if history has taught us anything, it’s that guns should be kept away from Germans. Just sayin’ dude. TWO world wars…… not a coincidence (!!!)
@@Torahboy1 I agree with you. There is (at least it should by law) a strict background check to determine whether the applicant is politically radical or a Reichsbürger (Reich Citizen -- somewhat similar movement to Sovereign citizen movement, which is operating in the United States). In Germany the issuing of gun licenses to private individuals is very rare. In official practice, gun licenses are almost exclusively given to valuables transport companies and security companies. About wars I feel I should add the remark that both world wars were run by governments with official troops (and official German made firearms), not private paramilitaries.
Looking at the way the slot for the locking mechanism is cut, you might even be able to go between the lid and the body, and pry it loose without even using the key, assuming the locking mechanism allows for this movement. When you closed the lid, it seemed pretty loose on top of the body, so would be interested in seeing this approach as well :)
I've been a watching your vids for a couple of years but never commented.....it fascinates me how easily you pick locks and the speed in which you do it, I've never tried to break into a lock not being that way inclined but I think I'd like to have a go at picking locks just for the challenge, and it looks so much fun!! Covert instruments has a brand new customer. Many thanks for your vids and much love to you brother 👍👍👍
The fact that you used a pick as opposed to a magnet, or a hammer, or the ground, makes me think this is one of the safer models currently sold -wow that is sad-
Just received your covert companion tool and picked my first lock, was such a cool feeling when I got that last click and it turned. Masterlock 1KAD. Now I feel the need to keep going! Btw, the design is so elegant and puts an incredible amount in such a small package. Feel like making Christmas presents out of them. Thanks!
I love these gun safe and gun lock videos. Will you ever make suggestions as to what a good lockbox is? I've been looking at the Hornady Rapid Safe. Would love to see a review.
Love the video’s, it helped me a lot by opening a combination lock that somebody had changed the combination off. With your expertise I managed to open it and reset it to its original combination. Thanks and greetings from the Netherlands 🇳🇱
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Love that the "safe" gives a little chime to indicate you've successfully bypassed it.
“Congratulations! Lockpicking skill Level Up!”
@@emoimo4171 "You've earned a trophy!"
I'm going to assume that the chime is for when the battery is re-connected.
I wonder if it can be changed to the Zelda chest opening tune.
@@JorneDeSmedt Da-Di-Do-Di-Da-DA!
Thank god it's resistant to 9mm bullets. I wouldn't want my Glock to try to shoot its way out of the safe.
Sure you would, and you'd name it Megatron!
@@Adam-ln4og a Transformer from a Glock would be a Kilotron at most, maybe even a Centitron
@@matthewhall2318 Or even a Decitron
But can a 3"+ barreled 10MM or larger caliber blast through it? Even with that statement they gave, is it for just 1 round? Can two successive rounds pierce it?
I guess that resistance works both directions so at least the owner of the gun is safe against friendly fire ;)
Me looking at key: "Oh that looks like it'll be a bitch to pick!"
LPL pulls out a rake.
Also me: "oh, nevermind then..."
As soon as he said it was a wafer lock it was over.
My pistol would be safer underneath my "My Pillow" than it ever would be in this POS made in China PO💩!
I'm starting to think that companies chose these core designs just so their keys can look cool, or more advanced than they really are.
Right? I was like, "Oh, is got two rows on each side? That could be a cha- nope. He wasn't even phased. Just whipped out the wave rake and went to town. Opened it right up."
@@Apocalypse_Cow chill
LPL: "Well this core design sure is unique and interesting"
Also LPL: *gets out wave rake*
Goes to show that not every new design successfully solves a problem lmao
LPL: Rakes lock open.
Safe: Provides "New skill unlocked" Chime. :D
😂
first for disabling the Alarm, then for rakng the lock :D
New Skill Unlocked: Copless Courage
A gun safe with three modes of entry is like a 'pick your own adventure' for LPL.
"This can stop a 9mm bullet !"
LPL : "Yeah but can it stop a curious adolescent ?" * whips out raake *
And the rake is much quieter than an 9mm bullet, or even the alarm for that matter.
MFR: "This can stop a 9mm bullet"
Project Farm: "We're gonna test that!"
"... and getting the gun within" ends the video with a rather ominous, and topical, tone...
Amazon. Supplying weapons to curious adolescents since 20XX.
One use of being bullet resistant is reducing the downrange risks of a negligent discharge when retrieving the gun.
Curious adolescent! My parents used to store Christmas presents in a room off the basement, "protected" with a Master padlock. I found a small file (turns out it was a points file for a distributor back in the day). It was just a flat piece of steel and the handle was simply the smooth part of the steel with a circular profile on the end. I found that all it took was to insert this back part into the lock and twist to open -- no jiggling or anything. I was 10 when I found the file and it worked for three years before my father got wise and put a combination lock on the door.
And then you found a gap gauge in garage/that basement and you inserted it between the code wheels to decode the combination. xd
You were 13 when you found the gap gauge and it worked for two years before your father got wiser and put a non-MasterLock lock on the door. But you used that gap gauge again- this time as a shim, to disengage the locking bar from the locking mechanism and rendered any means of your father's attempt to keep the presents secured till Christmas futile.
I learned in high school that you could cut a soda can into a shim and pop any master lock open faster than using the actual combo. As a senior prank, somebody opened every single locker and shifted all the locks one to the left.
@@charredUtensil _"As a senior prank, somebody opened every single locker and shifted all the locks one to the left."_
Right, "somebody".
I knew where the presents were kept, but I only looked once. It ruined all the surprise of Christmas, so I never wanted to look again.
0:16 Wow, the deadpan delivery of "I'm not sure that's a likely attack vector"... 👌😂
Do you mean 0:26?
0:16 is the context
Squire locks disagree. Totally likely.
However, it might be a "defense vector" if the gun within the safe goes off.
It's kinda nice if one of your concerns is about accidental discharge.
Though I personally don't think one should store their weapons loaded anyway.
I cannot express how badly I want to see a gun safe that earns LPL's seal of approval.
I guarantee one exists, but it's the one he uses for his guns, so he's not going to feature that on his channel. He's too security conscious to tell people what safe his guns are in.
Very few products marketed as "gun safes" are actually decent. While I don't think that LPL has any he's really liked, Bosnian Bill featured a pistol case that he liked well enough.
Most professionals recommend purchasing a true time-rated safe if one wants to store something truly securely. Every safe is subject to vulnerability but true time-rated safes are supposed to resist penetration efforts by skilled attackers for the duration of the time rating, and that includes destructive entry. Trouble is, such safes are usually incredibly heavy and require professional installation to properly bolt them down, and may not be suitable for floors in homes supported by wooden joists. They may need to be installed onto concrete slabs, which means that such safes may not be readily installed in master bedrooms.
Just buy a steel cabinet and put a decent commercial padlock on.
That second Vaultek one he did a video on seems to fit that; no easy bypass and a disc detainer core that requires a skilled picker to get open. Like he said in that video though, almost no gun safe is gonna hold up to a destructive attack because part of the selling point for most of them is being somewhat portable.
I think you might have misunderstood the meaning of "gun safe" in this case. The clue is in the marketing: "can resist 9mm bullets fired from a Glock-19". Clearly, the safe is not meant to keep your gun safe, but keep your other valuables safe from burglars equipped with only a gun, hence it is "gun safe".
Key word "resist"
No, clearly it's defending against the fact that a gun is always loaded and could go off at any time. It's to resist the gun that is stored inside from randomly shooting you.
@@JNCressey 😂😂😂
@@JNCressey ah, it's for Baldwin
I guess it's good if you're worried about someone shooting your safe to open it lol. I mean they could just rake the core and save some bullets, especially at the prices ammo is right now/
*LPL pulls out rake tool*
The safe: "Hehe, I'm in danger!"
It'll stop a 9mm bullet but not a 1-gram wave rake. Incredible.
When you call the lawyer to get out of jail and he comes with a lock pick…
I am so unpretty 😭 When I go to the bank, they turn the cameras off. At least I am a big star on CZcams. So don't feel too bad for me, dear twi
And while breaking you out with his picks you hear him say
Nothing on one, two, 3 is binding, nothing on 4, a little counter rotation on 5, and we got this open
@@AxxLAfriku they do that to Black people to like me🙁 🪑
Sitting in Alcatraz and hearing "a click on one" will put a smile on my face
Finish the sentence.
Once again opened quicker by the LPL than it would take to enter the combination.
"Can resist 9 mm bullets" is an odd claim for such a product. Why would you try to shoot it open, if you already have a gun?
Anyway, this claim should be tested.
I suspect that part was written for people worried about the firearm going off inside.
Probably just as a comparison because "can resist a guy banging it with a hammer" would immediately spark questions like "what kind of hammer? how big? How strong is the guy?"
bEcaUsE moRe GuNz iS beTteR!!1!
@@asseenontv247 Ahh yes, because as we all know 9mms are famous for spontaneously firing all on their own.
It's always "a curious adolescent" and never a disgruntled wife/girlfriend or even "idiot who lost the key".
I fall into the "idiot who lost the key" category.
The curious adolescent is concerned with getting into trouble for breaking it. The disgruntled partner would probably not care and resort to destructive attacks. The idiot who lost the key could go either way depending on how much they spent on the thing and how long ago they bought it.
Sad when putting a Philips head screw on the battery case would likely double the time it'd take to pick the safe and disable the alarm.
Finding your screwdriver could take longer.
That also makes me wonder how many of these could be picked in the time it takes someone to find their car keys, phone and wallet?
more than double
Use a miss alignment tiny tork screw.
Or take a battery-powered hot glue gun and flood the speaker vents.
@@UncleKennysPlace or ductape
Anyone else missed "thank you" at the end?
With as many guns as I’ve seen LPL have, I’d love to see him test the claim of it resisting a 9mm.
The second he shows a gun firing he will get utterly rekt by CZcams, better to keep it safe... literally lol
@@ToreDL87 That’s what secondary channels are for. 😉
With the concept that air resists a 9mm, any claims of resisting without saying how much is meaningless.
@@ToreDL87 He should send it on to Taofledermaus.
@@ToreDL87 Yeah, it is not like he did fire on a lock in the past or something (look at video 944 for example). He would get utterly rekt by CZcams for sure. lel
I love the "you've won a prize" tone after completely violating the safe in 30ish seconds.
Get notified of a LPL video > check the length > "Uh oh, it's not very long, this won't be pretty" > It isn't. Another job well done by The LPL! 😁👍
When a safe offers several ways of unlocking it, it's only as secure as its weakest method. I agree that this safe could probably be opened by a curious teenager with improvised tools. Maybe a couple of paper clips would do the trick. It's like a house with an impressive front door lock and a primitive lock on the back door.
do not forget the windows...
My neighbor put Steel doors on his house because he has a large gun collection - yet side glass window in his garage and a regular door between the garage and house......
You could probably disable the lock in order to deal with this issue though.
I betcha the weakest link is actually the fingerprint lock, which could probably be bypassed by a curious teenager armed with cellophane tape and a bit more “secret” knowledge of how to use it - and the alarm wouldn’t even trigger.
@@TysonJensen that would be interesting to explore.
I still love that the standard for any gun lock or safe is the “curious adolescent”. Reminds me of when I took those business law classes many moons ago in college, where the standard for Tort cases was the average reasonable human.
"curious adolescent" is less "average reasonable human" and more "hormone driven human with an invincibility complex"
The only real security when it comes to gun safes is to keep the safe hidden as well as bolted down. The lock is the last line of defense.
I'd imagine a battery powered grinder would get into most things.
I really suspect many of those safes and locks regardless of jurisdiction are merely there to comply with whatever legal requirements there might be.
It might be a very crappy lock, but if it meets some kind of certification and you can legally keep it in there most people will consider that good enough.
LPL is right about "curious adolescent" in the video, those are probably an important thing to be concerned about. And if they live in the same residence they'll have plenty of time to find/learn about the hidden location just by observation. That said in such a scenario a decent well designed lock would definitely be desirable regardless of cheaper options are legally compliant.
Most safes put all their security in the door and lock. The sides and back are thinner and thusly vulnerable to cutting attacks.
The only real solution in physical security is to make it not worth doing. For example, as you mention, a safe sufficiently bolted down and well-hidden is a start. I would also recommend further safeguards (layered security). Examples would be cameras (to discourage a stealthy attack), a house alarm (to give urgency), and strong door locks on the house itself. Also, the gun safe should be in a room that is kept locked, and when children are home, an adult should be home as well. &c.
The safest solution is not owning a gun. If you need to have one, make sure to store gun and ammunition separately in a secure location that children can't access unnoticed. Make sure to teach them how to handle a firearm respectfully.
Love the marketing blurb about withstanding a 9mm fired from a Glock, because while it does sound tough, it doesn't make much sense. If you already have a Glock in your hands, why break into a gun safe?
To steal the gun? To provide to someone else?
so then you have two glocks.
really so you can sell the gun in the safe and keep yours
What about a 9mm bullet fired from some other handgun? Why only protect against Glocks?
Maybe it is to protect you if the weapon discharged while in the safe. Not sure how that would happen, or who would leave a loaded weapon in a safe, but that might be the thought process to having it resistant to 9mm ammunition.
So you can duel wield
I'm Just waiting for you to look at a lock and for it to just go "f**k it " and opens.
Wizard: *begins summoning the arcane runes needed to cast the Knock spell*
LPL: "... and we've got this open."
There are voice activated locks. I do remember someone who had one between his garage and home which opened to "It's me. Open the F**king door!" in a had a bad day at work tone.
He knew this wasn't a drastically secure lock, but by the time they'd got past his gate and garage, if they were detirmined to get into the house they could.
Would never happen, I think LPL is too polite to curse
@@mpek1992 I'm not sure, I read the CS Lewis novel, "The Fluorescent Light, the Hydraulic Cutters, and the Fahgeddaboudit" [LPL 797 had a loooong pause where I am sure he was thinking of at least six Latin pejoratives]
That opening description of the safe sounds like foreshadowing for a video with demolition ranch.
I got a pre-roll ad for MAXSafes gun safes. LPL should do a review on them - it would help to show he is not disinclined to honestly review a 'sponsor'.
Hey LPL, you could send that to Demoranch to test out the bullet resistant claims...
Or he could shoot it himself with his own collection
Looks like the box is big enough to store something like a portable game system. Wrap _this_ thing under the tree for a kid and it's the ultimate puzzle box: if they can get in _without_ you hearing the alarm, they get it. Otherwise, Mario is going with _you,_ at least for that day.
I love how the introductions and explanations of the products always take longer than picking them.
It's funny when a Master padlock is quickly defeated but scary when an important lock like this is little better than a paper bag.
"I don't think it's gonna make picking a whole lot harder..."
... so you just have more pins to pick, right?
"... all we need to do is to rake both sides of the keyway."
Wait, rake? Damn, that bad huh...
It's a wafer lock, I wouldn't have expected anything more than raking.
@@edderiofer I'll keep that in mind. I'm a relative newbie to LPL's videos and the only lock type I recognize are disc detainers because that's when the "pick Bonsian Bill and I made" comes out lol
@@golasticus Ah, fair. If you watch a bunch of his videos over the past year or so, you'll see that basically every wafer lock he's been given, he's raked instead of picked.
I'd love to see a video on modifying one of these amazon gun safes to make them reasonably pick resistant or at least safe from adolescents?
Thanks! :)
I love how he shows people how to break in and he even sells the break in tools. Even this video he shows you how to get into a gun safe while blocking the speaker.
One of the very few channels where the shorter the video the more excited (And terrified) I am!
Thank you LPL for yet another short full of information quality video
It would be super interesting if they let you open an actual bank safe
He's run an auto dialer before, it's in the vids.
@@johnsmith1474 i know. I still wanna see it in a real scenario
Maybe he could find a bank that is shutting down to try it on!
I could see this as a posability of a bank is replacing its system or some collector got their hands on an old vult.
@@thegovernor184 My girlfriend works at a law office that is in an old bank. They use the safe to hold their archived paperwork. Maybe there are other already closed banks near the LPL.
After watching a lot of your videos, I felt inspired to give lockpicking a go. I bought a practise set of Amazon and after many failed attempts, managed to teach myself how to pick a basic padlock that wasn't transparent. I just want to say thank you for your content as I find it incredibly interesting :)
..."all we need to do is rake both sides of the keyways"... LMAO!
This reminds me of the security potential of a big dog that can stand up on his hind legs, put his paws on the shoulders of a 6ft tall man and look him straight in the eye.
The visual deterrent factor has a lot to do with it's effectiveness.
The dog may be friendly 'once' he knows you, but something barking at you with the jaw strength to crush your forearm will make you keep walking.
I know a couple guys who live in a sketchy part of town, and used to deal with break-ins all the time. Then they got an irish wolfhound who had a penchant for scratching at the wall beside the back door when he wanted to come in. Apparently looking through the window and seeing a dog that hangs off both sides of a standard sofa and claw marks by the back door that start at the ceiling and run to the floor is a FANTASTIC deterrent, because they never had another break-in. And the dog was a big softy, too.
Yeah, you need a pretty dedicated thief to be like "You know, I'm going to go for the house with the 100 pound rottweiler" rather than the house next door.
Me: *watching and enjoying the new LPL video as I always do*
LPL: “If you like this video and would like to see more like it, please subscribe, and as always, have a nice day.”
Me: *pausing* “thank you?”
In any case, I’m always happy to watch, LPL. You don’t have to mention it 😁
I always enjoy your videos. Very quick to the point and always up front about what you do and how to do it. Thank you!
One thing I saw in this video is the button that you can probably push quicker than removing the battery.
Seen an ad for Qwikset immediately after your video featuring Adam Savage. I think the algorithm officially knows too much about me.
I’ve got a question. Every time I watch one of these firearm storage device videos I learn how incredibly inept they are. What’s worth buying?
I think the basic answer to that question is “pretty much nothing.” To find a gun lock worth recommending he had to make his own.
With the money you spent on the gun, basically *anything* that doesn't serve the purpose of killing people. 100 pounds of chocolate, for example. As a bonus, you don't need to worry about gun safety 👍
Ether a true safe which is not made to be opened quickly, or something you can lokeup with an external lock you know is "safe enough"
Well, 99.999 percent of the population doesn't own the tools or have the skills to bypass this lock, most particularly anyone the owner might know. A higher percentage of professional thieves might be able to pick this, but why wouldn't they just take the whole gun safe with them and work on it later?
Basic security principle is you have to trade convenience for security. You could have it disassembled and parts stored separately, or unloaded and separate from ammo, or just leave it loaded wherever. Safety, always off.
Seems like a simple upgrade in manufacturing would be to put a screw on the battery cover.
I think a was of bubble gum would probably silence about 95% or more of that sounder.
or glue a second battery case with empty batteries on top of the real one.
until the attacker notices why pulling the battery does not silence the attack it will howl.
also a second loudspeaker at the back would be an improvement... if the thing is bolted at a wall and the bottom loudspeaker sits over a hole in said wall good luck covering both loudspeakers...
This channel is the only videos i watch all the way through every time and I really don't know why but I keep coming back
Saw your conference speech video. Well done!
At first I thought that this would be another thing that's vulnerable to magnet attacks. But I was mildly surprised.
Who says it wasn't?
I wouldn't be surprised if it was, honestly.
Can you consider making a "gun safe" playlist? For purchase research, of course.
Let me make it easier for you: they all suck
I think he has one
Lock picking lawyer I really enjoy all your few minute bits on CZcams, very informative for me and learning something every time, I am a door jack mechanic, carpenter I deal with a lot of door hardware‘s old ones new ones sometimes I have to repair them or make changes right on the spot like re-key key alike keys broke off right in lock and some of your skills and methods are just so helpful,
As always, thorough instruction does more for safety than any comercially available gun lock product. (And even most non comercially available products. See his video about the gun lock intended for mounting in patrol cars.)
Мне такие ящики, больше всего напоминают тот мультик с банком.
Внутри показывается демонстрация, что мол, банк самый защищенный, его нельзя ни взломать, ни взорвать, и поэтому украсть что-то из него невозможно. Куча вспышек, все довольные расходятся.
И потом показывают бабушку, которая убирает мусор в банке, и выходит через заднюю дверь, закрыв ее простой щеколдой.
Мужчина купил пистолет, женщина заставила его достать оружейный сейф. Выглядит неплохо. Это не должно на самом деле работать. Это на некоторое время сходит ее с его спины.
I feel like the problem with a lot of these safes is that they intend the key to just be a backup, so they don't give it the attention they should, as it's more of an afterthought. Even this one, the key was a nice design and the alarm sounding is a good alert for if it's picked, but the tolerances were apparently pretty low and the alarm is too easily defeated so it is effectively pointless if you do any research.
Some jurisdictions have strange gun storage laws. These safes most likely only ensure compliance with said laws.
@@natethegr8230 If it was just built to comply with the laws, most likely it'd be out of much cheaper materials, and would have a more basic design, since most places with such laws only have vague wording that leaves a lot of wiggle room. More so, the people who buy purely for compliance reasons, tend to go for whatever the cheapest option they can get away with is.
This safe comes off more as an attempt to provide enough security to warrant a higher price point, but with corners cut in the actual implementation. The alarm only having a single easily coverable speaker is another issue. Most safes of this type don't even include an alarm, so it being there would likely make the product more marketable, but the implementation ruins its actual effectiveness.
Yes you just described the video. Thank you for a pointless comment I had to read...
@@chrisrace744 You're welcome. Thank you for the even more pointless reply that contributed nothing to discussion. Have a nice day.
by all means this is a lot better than many safes featured here. no electronic failure points demonstrated, or poking the creases.
These videos are an invaluable public safety resource. Thank you.
Since this is biometric, and also numeric keypad, that means it is a relay driving a solenoid, right? So I could open it with a big magnet?
Likely the steel would shield the relay.
no you cant, only LPL can.
Yeah, I've yet to see a gun safe on this channel that I'd secure a squirt gun in, let alone a real one. I'm very fortunate that there is literally no one that would be after a gun in my home. No kids, no visitors, no one but the cats, and they, so far, have been defeated by the holster. Other than when I'm sleeping, my gun is on my hip, so, yeah. Not gonna drop hundreds of dollars on a 'safe' that can be opened with a bread twist tie faster that with the key/combination.
Thank, LPL, for showing us yet another Unsafe safe to avoid.
In your case and really many other people a simple closet with a simple lock much more safe than a safe. These safes are dirt cheap and offer almost nothing.
Really if you wanted something a bit better than a key lock you could install some sort of magnet sliding pin type thing. I am not sure how easy it would be yet in my mind its quite easy. Its just another layer one would have to defeat.
I would not trust the cats that much, just saying.
You are grossly underestimating how vindictive a cat can get
@@sheumack Both my cat and my roommate/landlord's cat seem to like me a lot. I make it a point to get thin, fresh deli slices, roast beef, turkey and chicken (no processed or spiced stuffs) and give them lots of little easy to chew sized bites. I learned long ago the way to keep a kitty's claws sheathed is yummies in their tummies.
It throws me when there's not a "thank you" at the end
Your every video increases my blood pressure as it makes me seriously worry about the security of my Shop, warehouse and home... yet I CZcams sends me your video recommendations every time I open CZcams... And everytime I end up watching it.....
Can you feature some gun safes that actually offer reasonable security?
Assuming there are any.
Bosnian Bill featured a safe he liked at one point
"this won't stop a curious adolescent"
I appreciate your benefit of the doubt for a teenager who is _actively trying to break into a gunsafe_ .
A thief will just take the whole safe and saw it open later if they can't pick it. Your own kids, though, are a lot less likely to try destroying the safe because they're trying to get in without getting caught.
@@gatherer818 my point is, LPL and I are both American. That adolescent who wants to break into a gun safe is more likely to bring the gun to school than "be curious"
@@kutsen39 I'm not entirely sure your statement is correct. Lots of curious kids in the USA just want to know what is in something, without wanting to do harm. This is especially true, if the contents of said Gun safe are not apparent to the kid in question.
Just because it is advertised as such, does not mean that it will be used that way. It could contain a collection of dirty magazines to keep away from a significant other. That is worth a sunken treasure galleon to a teen!
@@kutsen39 I think it's at least as likely to be a kid who wants to play with it or show it off to their friends because they think guns are cool. Not all gun deaths are intentional.
What I think is funny is the first time I saw this video, I got an ad for a gun safe that LPL already covered and essentially said “Don’t buy this, it’s a piece of trash.” 🤣
its nice that you get a little alarm to notify you that *someone now has your gun*
Assuming you superglued the key lock, how secure are the keypad and fingerprint locks? I know a lot of them use a solenoid that can be bypassed with a strong magnet. Also, some fingerprint readers are easily vulnerable to a print lifted from a surface.
I have never understood why someone would want a safe with so many ways to open it. I understand having the physical key lock incase the electronic system runs out of battery. But any amount of opening methods over 2, and you're just making it easier for a thief to get in.
Listened to your keynote address. Loved it
That curious adolescent is up to something I know for sure
Carlito’s Way Mob guy: “You’re gonna bust me outta prison, you lawyer fuck!”
Lock Picking Lawyer as Davey Kleinfeld: “No problem!”
The End.
He is not a criminal lawyer tho, he is corporate
You thought gun safe has more secure locks in it... But nope
This is not really _pine._ The world has to know about this
Thumb over the speaker is the most advanced move in this attack!
Your comment about a curious teenager reminds me of my youth.
I have friends whose Father legally owned full auto machine guns.
We NEVER considered "playing" with those. When we were at a designated shooting range we would use firearms. When we were hunting we would use firearms. We NEVER used firearms in anger.
We would play with the two Toledo made display swords.
At least the weakest point on this one is the lock, epoxy will soon fix that.
But then when the battery dies you have no way to open it.
Then that fateful day comes along where the battery dies and you have to torch the case open.
@@stevemathis3092 Yes you do, there
's a USB plug on the front and at any rate use lithium cells and change them out every 12 months you are fine.
@@stevemathis3092 it has a USB c port on it, I assume that would allow it to be charged or powered externally for those situations and is not just for programming the lock
@@douglascampbell9809 You didn't notice the USB connection for external power?
I feel like many neat ideas get poorly executed like this dual key. It seemed so good in theory but then you mentioned it uses wafers. Would it kill manufacturers to have a core decent enough that a “curious adolescent” would give up?
You know the security of a lock isn't very good when he brings out the wave rake.
Most of the biometric locks require you to orient your finger exactly the same way each time for it to work. You can record the fingerprint in different orientations so it works if you're from either side, or above the unit. Also, most locks have a limit for how many prints it will record. A little more smarts in the lock would make the finger print detector more of a plus.
Ignoring the glaring flaws in these gun safes, I also just imagine someone fumbling around half asleep in the dark trying to open their gun safe while an intruder just boinks them over the head with whatever is laying around, most likely the gun safe.
It's less than 3 mins, haven't watched it but I bet he explains it for 1 and a half, opens it in 15 and plugs covert instuments and has some last notes for all the remaining time
I was pretty close
Got an ad that was longer than the amount of time it took him to pick it…
I'm pretty sure the ad right before this video was for this exact product. It made it look pretty good. But knowing this was LPL, I was like "well, this won't be great for your marketing." Did not disappoint!
Me: It has an alarm, an app, can withstand bullets, and has a double wafer lock. This seems secu...
LPL: Hehe, I have Wave Rake.
Me: Oh....
nice punch line……
The app comment is hilarious and accurate
it's always good when your gun safe makes noises on par with a child's toy.
If my child can rake open my gunsafe, he probably needs the gun
What I find just as scary is the USB-C next to it…
This means you have direct access to the controller with a computer. So there are now two demographics that can open this (anyone with ok Linux skills, and anyone with ok raking skills)
Is this going to be the first commercially avaliable good gun safe he tests? Nope.
Loved getting an ad for a gun safe on this video.
That siren reminds me of my childhood, had these toy police cars and firetrucks with their sirens that drove my parents nuts. Blessed be those days 😂
I realize that this is about locks.
But gun safes are shown significantly often, so I take the liberty of commenting on this.
(Almost) every firearms safe review ends with the statement, "Nothing I would trust to match the curiosity of adolescents". I totally agree. Firearms should be kept around civilians as rarely as possible.
(German point of view)
Also not inconsistent with what’s actually in the US Constitution, which mentions “militia” and although the term “well-regulated” certainly didn’t have the same meaning then as today, it’s unlikely that any of them would agree with the current interpretation where “militia” means nutcase and “well-regulated” means “not in any sense regulated.”
I agree
Also, if history has taught us anything, it’s that guns should be kept away from Germans.
Just sayin’ dude. TWO world wars…… not a coincidence (!!!)
@@Torahboy1 I agree with you. There is (at least it should by law) a strict background check to determine whether the applicant is politically radical or a Reichsbürger (Reich Citizen -- somewhat similar movement to Sovereign citizen movement, which is operating in the United States).
In Germany the issuing of gun licenses to private individuals is very rare. In official practice, gun licenses are almost exclusively given to valuables transport companies and security companies.
About wars I feel I should add the remark that both world wars were run by governments with official troops (and official German made firearms), not private paramilitaries.
Looking at the way the slot for the locking mechanism is cut, you might even be able to go between the lid and the body, and pry it loose without even using the key, assuming the locking mechanism allows for this movement. When you closed the lid, it seemed pretty loose on top of the body, so would be interested in seeing this approach as well :)
I've been a watching your vids for a couple of years but never commented.....it fascinates me how easily you pick locks and the speed in which you do it, I've never tried to break into a lock not being that way inclined but I think I'd like to have a go at picking locks just for the challenge, and it looks so much fun!! Covert instruments has a brand new customer. Many thanks for your vids and much love to you brother 👍👍👍
The fact that you used a pick as opposed to a magnet, or a hammer, or the ground, makes me think this is one of the safer models currently sold
-wow that is sad-
I have been happy with my Vaultek LifePods, thank you for reviewing this section of the market!
Just received your covert companion tool and picked my first lock, was such a cool feeling when I got that last click and it turned. Masterlock 1KAD. Now I feel the need to keep going! Btw, the design is so elegant and puts an incredible amount in such a small package. Feel like making Christmas presents out of them. Thanks!
At least they appear to have tried with the core. They failed horribly, but at least they tried.
When will these companies learn to hire LPL as a design consultant BEFORE going into production?
I love these gun safe and gun lock videos. Will you ever make suggestions as to what a good lockbox is? I've been looking at the Hornady Rapid Safe. Would love to see a review.
The lil chime after he's ripped out it's "brain-stem" translates as,
"HE'S DONE THIS TO ME 13 TIMES!!..........PUHLAYZE ....HALP!!"......😩
Love the video’s, it helped me a lot by opening a combination lock that somebody had changed the combination off.
With your expertise I managed to open it and reset it to its original combination.
Thanks and greetings from the Netherlands 🇳🇱
This guy has got to be undefeated in the court room.