Funny thing is, the method he showed is actually worse than just trying all six combos, at least in the absolute worst case which is what he had it set to. Notice how he had 7 trials, 4 to find one button and 3 to find the other. Obviously this goes away with more buttons, 5 buttons having 10 combos with his method taking 9 steps in the worst case and 6 having 15 with 11 for his method worst case. Also for 6 buttons, if they required 3 buttons pressed instead of just 2, that would bump the number of possible combos up to 20 for free.
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149$ for a lock that takes literally anyone with a working hand a maximum of 30 seconds to open... even Masterlock is looking at these guys with smug superiority
It seems as though there's an unofficial rule in gun lock making: they're either made by people who don't understand guns, or people who don't understand locks.
Speaking of not understanding guns, I remember seeing (personally) someone fire a barrel lock like a normal bullet because it didn't prevent you from loading a blank, as it only occupied part of the chamber. Like, it didn't go very far, but it just got ejected despite being in the locked state. All you needed to create a blank from the appropriate bullets was a pair of pliers, because the propellant had an internal wall (however thin) between it and the projectile.
Why would a toddler be near your gun in the first place? Be responsible, put it somewhere that your family knows where it is and where a toddler can't reach it. My wife and I don't lock up our guns because our safety is a bit more important than some retarded law made by people who have never shot a gun let alone own one.
@@genericwhitemale1114 I agree, but a lot of people aren't responsible. the ' In the Home' and 'Safe Storage... In the Home' tabs are the ones you might want to look at. violence.chop.edu/types-violence/gun-violence/gun-violence-facts-and-statistics
The horrible thing is, is that the lock itself looks almost deliberately designed to look appealing to idle hands. I don't mean just kids. If I saw it I'd be immediately tempted to play with the nice chunky clicky buttons on the shiny red box, and I'm 43. The only thing that would stop me would be respecting the property of whoever I was visiting.
Almost seems to me like a "lock in name only": a minimal-security lock to satisfy some states' requirements that a firearm be locked in some scenarios. It doesn't seem to be much more than a chamber flag with a very basic combination lock.
Their amazon Q&A address its purpose a bit more clearly: "It’s not meant to prevent theft, or to be left unattended when away from your firearm. It’s purely designed to give you an extra level of security while maintaining quick reliable access. 👍🏻 Think of it as acting similar to a Level 4 duty holster that offers multiple points of retention." So it's basically just a barebones lock that you put on when it's going to be in close proximity to your person. What I don't understand is, $150? At that price point I'd want an electronic lock that is just as fast to unlock and offers more security for when it's not in close proximity to me.
@@stompingpeak2043 true very true. Hey i getting richer every time i watch his uploads, because i learn what locks to buy and which ones 2 stay away from and wast my $.
I’m surprised they don’t just have a single button labeled “UNLOCK” on it, since this clearly is only intended to circumvent the “gun must be locked” laws.
I honestly don't think that's the case, I think this is more of a way to make it so if someone tries to take your gun of you they can't just shoot you with it
@@davidwarford3087 That use case doesn't make sense because you wouldn't have the lock on your AR-15 in a situation where you want to use it and there is a baddie within close enough distance to grab it out of your hands and turn it around on you. You would have taken the lock off already... (I guess there's a rare case where you sleep with it under your pillow or on your nightstand, lol, and the home intruder wakes you up as you both grab it). Are you thinking that someone would just normally carry their AR around with this lock on it, and use it like a special safety? Like a paintball barrel plug? For cops/soldiers or crazed militia types who just walk around with AR's all day? Like how a good holster prevents a crazy from grabbing a handgun off a cop's belt while they're just out patrolling? That's such a limited and weird use case, but I guess it would make sense in that situation.
must be hard for lpl to leave his house, locks his front door then accidentally unlocks it by catching a glimpse of the key way in the corner of his eye
The little "Fort Knox" coin safes we probably all had as kids were more challenging than this lock, and that was just protecting my spare change and birthday card money.
Mine simply had two buttons you had to press at the same time and then the door would pop open. It had no other buttons, no dial, nothing. Just two buttons on the top. Turn the safe upside-down, set it down, and the weight of an empty safe would press the buttons enough to open the thing.
And that makes for opening it six times in 60 seconds, just to proved that neither method was a fluke. I wonder how the Fluke company feels about their name.
@@scarfboy Good because they're hard to source where I live; if a penguin is required to defeat the lock then it's practically undefeatable. But in this case the lock is more like a doorhandle (which are sold by gun companies as a "lock with two possible combinations: open and closed").
You could be right, but I don't know that "people who don't actually want to lock their guns" would be willing to pay $150 for the lock that they don't want
@@Snommelp i would if it's that fast to get off the gun and is built well so it doesn't break. If i bought this it would be for legal compliance, not to "lock" the gun.
@@Snommelp they absolutely would. They'll pay hundreds of dollars for an unfinished part and finish machining it themselves so they don't have to register with the ATF
He's going to pick your lock and than shoot you with a noisy as fuck gun? Nah he's going to pick your lock(s) and then use a serious business knife, or a piece of red bull can. And then presumably ride off with your bike. Sleep well.
My first thought when seeing the lock was "This is probably intended to meet the minimum standard for some sort of storage law." Then he said it cost $149...
Some states requires folks to have an lock on their guns, but the law doesn't say anything about requiring the lock to be a /good/ lock, just a 'lock'.
@@stevenrice47 Well yea. That's why I said that was my first thought. They usually have minimum requirements and many companies will make a bare minimum lock. The $149 price tag seems high to me for that.
This is the kind of lock someone who doesn't actually believe in gun locks gets, just to appease someone else. Perhaps another person, or some legal requirement.
I don't understand that mindset. If someone is an advocate for firearms but doesn't follow basic firearm safety and even actively dislikes firearm safety, then they make the rest of the firearm-owning community look bad. We need to take firearms seriously, they aren't toys. That shit won't fly in a gun club.
@@katyungodly Some states require a lock on the firearm. Question is, if I live alone and do not have a gun safe. Why am I locking my firearm? It's a stupid law and I am glad my state does not have it
@@katyungodly Gun safety is more about mindset and safe handling. It's not about gadgets. I want a safe to prevent thefts, but beyond that, I have no use for gun locks. Most gun locks won't stop a thief; they just take the locked case with them, and break into it later. They're only useful for deterring other members of the household from accessing the guns easily (like kids, or maybe a roommate). There are several reason why I don't own a gun safe yet. #1 We used to move from apartment to apartment, and portable safe are pointless for the same reason as other kinds of gun locks. #2 Research. Any fan of LPL knows that most locks and "safes" can be easily opened. Worse, most "gun safes" after not actually true safes; they're "residential security containers". They're expensive, heavy, and inconvenient, but they won't actually stop a thief. They will only allow the thief down for a few minutes. "An RSC-rated container (gun cabinet) will resist forced opening for up to five minutes by an attacker using simple, non-powered hand tools. We’re talking screwdrivers, hammers (must be less than 3 lbs.), and pry bars (must be less than 18″ long). RSC containers are not rated against any attack by power tools of any kind, or any attack lasting longer than five minutes." www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gun-safes-and-residential-security-containers-know-what-youre-really-buying/ Seriously, 5 minutes. Frankly, I'm not rich enough to spend $1000 or more on something that will only be a mild inconvenience to a thief.
@@katyungodly most gun laws aren’t written with safety or practicality or effectiveness in mind. They’re written by politicians trying to pander to liberal Karens.
@@andytuesday500 straight up this man has convinced me no truly secure lock exists and lock companies give absolutely zero f*cks about the quality or design of their products
@@NikkiBudders I know. I’ve used master locks on my tool box’s at work for over 20 years. Haaaa. Now I can pick them in a couple seconds. I taught my niece who’s 10 to pick master locks. 😂. It’s kinda scary.
Raises the question until when a device can still be considered a lock. What about if it had only 1 or 2 combinations - is that still a lock? And 6 combinations - come on, seriously?
An original 3x3x3 Rubics Cube puzzle took some effort to open. I saw a novelty toy that was a 2 part cube with an axle connecting the halves. The packaging said _Over 3 different positions, and only 1 is correct!_ It was a simple gag gift at an appropriate price. This lock has 50% more combinations. Why isn't it a $2 toy?
@@musickid43 or a door handle. But considering the video linked that was literally just a piece of plastic with a screw in it as a trigger "lock" I'm surprised no one has sold just a stick you jam in the barrel. "Had two sets, stick in barrel and stick not in barrel"
I knew this product was a joke when I first saw it, and none of my feedback (exactly the feedback you mentioned here about the design) was listened to, and they just dug in their heels. I'm so glad you reviewed this.
I think tying the Ar to something with a difficult knot pulled tight would be more secure. At least they would have to take a few moments to find a knife to cut the string.
yeah but then it could still be fired (such as by that curious adolescent), potentially causing harm and/or destruction of property. Also, it would be just as difficult for you to get the weapon if and when you need it.
This literally seems like the kind if lock you get in puzzle games. Bright and easy to spot with tempting buttons, and once you play around with the buttons a bit it becomes easy to figure out the combination after a minute or two
Jfc, *six* combinations. Like...The body might be solid, but it doesn't take a genius to see that 6 combinations simply isn't enough. The shittiest lock I've owned (a crappy lock that could be pried open by hand with just 3 wheels) still had 1000. This wouldn't even deter the most impatient of toddlers
@@invenblocker eh? What are you guys talking about? As designed: 1-2,1-3,1-4,2-3,2-4,3-4. Allowing any combination of up to 4 adds: 1-2-3-4,1-2-3,1-2-4,1-3-4,2-3-4. That's 11, or 15 if you allow single number "combinations," not 16 or 24?
This seems to operate on the idea that if the thing appears locked, people are less likely to steal it. The lock will likely work as a good deterrent as long as the perpetrator doesn’t know how it works. Or it’s circumventing the locked gun requirement some places have, as many commenters pointed out. That likely is the main motivation.
This doesn't prevent anyone from stealing it, it just keeps the gun from being fired, and it seems to be (just barely) complicated enough to make it unlikely to be removed by accident. Had the pistol Alec Baldwin was fooling around with had one of these that director of photography would still be alive. It has a place, it's just that that place can be filled just as effectively by something a lot cheaper.
This would be quickly circumvented by any child. I see the appeal of a quick-release, one-handed lock but if it will ever be encountered by a child, it's not worth the money.
@@zodiacthriller6094 and nieces and nephews and their friends... My. brother was sleeping in and two of his friends came over to the house. They decided to wake him up, with my father's 45. They thought it was unloaded and his best friend almost "dry fired" it... a few minutes later they (the friends) were playing with it in another room and discharged a round in to the floor. Accidents happen even when you try to train kids, it's not a panacea!
@@matthewstoughton3532 The funny thing is that you don’t. The whole concept of it was that you can keep a loaded magazine in the rifle and the bolt held open while it IS installed. Once removed, all that needs to be done to fire it is to push the bolt release and possibly flip off the safety if you had even chosen to engage it in the first place. Maintaining positive control of a weapon is the ONLY way to prevent mishaps. This thing is a piece of junk.
As a conscripted member of the Swiss army I had a SG 550 at home. My solution for this problem is that I remove the breech block and hide it somewhere. (To be precise the gun was at my parents apartment and the breech block was at my place)
@@lordkrythic6246 Permutation is relevant only when order is involved. This is a combination-only device in a mathematical sense. 4C4 = 1. Always. And even if it was permutation problem, 4P4 = 24, not 16. It's not 4x4. Double fail.
"So, how many combinations does that make?" "6." "So, if you enter the wrong combination, it explodes?" "No." "Seizes up, making it impossible to unlock without a bypass key?" "No." "Rings a loud alarm to warn the owner?" "No." "So, what does it do?" "Eh, allow you to try a different combination. Also, if you got one key right, that key seizes so you just need to find the other one."
I see a use for this thing: The State of California. If you are the only one in the home, and you are in the home, the State of California requires your firearms be USING a locking device. This thing is zero to "you picked the wrong house, dude" in about one second. It's important to know, should one attempt to use it for that purpose, that even if it meets the minimum requirement of the law, it's no real impediment to another individual gaining access to your firearm. presumably actual gun vaults are made more securely than the lockboxes you keep demonstrating a young child could open, accidentally, but … honestly I kind of wonder!
As a German I'm just wondering, is it really that necessary to have gunlocks that fall of if you look at them funny? We have burglaries too of course but basically none with deadly intent, most just want your TV at best. How bad is it in the USA?
@@QuintarFarenor It heavily depends on the part of the USA. The parts near the Mexican border can be pretty bad with the trans-border drug cartels that pretty much run large parts of Mexico. Drug gangs in parts of inner cities can be pretty bad, too. Even otherwise-petty crime is frequently drug related, specifically addicts trying to steal something they can sell quickly for drug money. Most of the U.S. is safe, but there are several relatively small parts of it that make the overall statistics look a lot worse. Although, I say "relatively small" because they're small relative to the entire U.S., but the area along the Mexican border in particular is larger (in landmass) than several entire European countries, though most of it is far less populated.
@@QuintarFarenor It's not a burglary I'm worried about. People enter other people's homes for other reasons than to take stuff. And even if they do just want stuff, they can't have it.
Let's expose the key pins and provide a built-in tensioning tool, what could go wrong? The person who designed this clearly understood neither locks nor guns.
Or he understood guns and doesn't like locks. It's totally possible that this thing was manufactured to comply with some stupid law that requires firearms to be locked but doesn't define any minimum quality for the lock. The most important feature of this lock is that's fast to remove.
@@MikkoRantalainen If there was no quality floor, it would have all-plastic construction. I sincerely believe it was a misguided attempt to be a good gun lock. The designer just wasn't very familiar with the lock part and made elementary mistakes. We see this almost every time he attacks a "smart" lock, there's glaring security issues a real lock designer would've identified. Lock design is hard, and people with no background in lock design keep thinking it isn't.
The use case I can actually think of for this is: shooting ranges at gun shows. It makes sense as a socially nice "you can pick up my gun and look at it, but not fiddle with it in any way that you can chamber a round until we're at your firing position" sort of lock- in that case only, so far as I have been able to imagine.
Wouldn't a wood dowel be better? same function, cheaper, and if the bolt did go forward less likely to damage/scratch anything. Maybe paint the stick red if you want to spend some extra?
I just realized that LPL got a lot of weapons at home. It's like a hidden message: "I show you how to break into my house and here's the reason why you should never ever even think about doing it"
@@ChaimS ...When calm and already wide awake. No. I agree. Armed, freaking out, and not yet fully awake is a good recipe for a swiss-cheese wall, where the safest person in the room is the guy in FRONT of the gun.
@@johnnyjohnson6643 I'm not so sure. He's picked a lot of locks, but his skill at picking and defeating locks is up there. He has praised many locks, including the PacLock line, who he has also worked with for special projects, even as he picked them. I suspect he has chosen from among those which gave him the most trouble in picking or bypassing, but I suspect he has reviewed the locks he uses in his own home.
If you think you need immediate access to it at all times, then you might as well just not lock it up. You certainly shouldn't waste 150 bones on a piece of junk like this.
I can respect home defense, really. But ffs, don't waste your money on useless trinkets. If you have kids, maybe teach them to respect firearms so that accidents are less likely to occur.
The best security is convenient to an authorised user and inconvenient to an unauthorised user. This product is a failure because it requires an attacker only fifteen times more effort to brute force the lock than it does the authorised user, but security that is too inconvenient to an authorised user will be bypassed or go unused because people are lazy.
"this is the lockpicking lawyer, and what i have for you today is the reverse bear trap. as you can see, it is securely attached to my head and it wont release unless i maim myself. however this seemingly daunting device is home to a very unfortunate flaw, that being that the creator of this has opted to bolt it together instead of a more reliable method like welding or machining" *undoes 3 bolts and takes it off his head "now lets do that one more time to make sure it wasnt a fluke" *puts it back on *takes it off "ok folks, although this device looks dangerous, i never trust it to work under the high pressure situations that it's needed in, in any case i thank you for watching if you have any questions or comments, leave them down below if you like this content and would like to see more like it please subscribe and as always, have a nice day"
"Alright, to get out of this one it looks like I'm going to have to dislocate my fingers. That's a click out of one, big click out of two, three is binding, lets pull harder - there it goes..."
To be fair: You would have to know there can only be combinations of exactly 2 buttons held down and the top button being the release button to be able to go through the possible combinations so quickly and effortless. If it was me wanting to open the lock, I would just press each button individually and afterwards try all sorts of combinations. There would be 31 possible combinations, not 6. The conclusion would be the same, however. 31 still isn't a lot of combinations. It would only protect against someone stealing the gun in front of your eyes, giving you enough time to react.
Sequential ly you would only have to go through 10 (6+4 for single keys) and leave the remaining before it unlocked. Presuming you didnt do it in binary number order or something strange.
Thank you LPL for taking a look at our StopBox! For anyone wondering about the intended use, here's a quick example. Our device is intended to provide retention from quick access to others. Similar to how a Police Officer's duty holster typically has 2 or 3 locking points. They are by no means impenetrable. Especially for someone who knows how the holster works, but it provides a level of security that would give the Officer time to react and secure their gun. Similarly, if you would otherwise leave your AR out of a safe, then the StopBox would give an extra layer of security that won't slow you down but will slow someone else down. This gives you time to react. We did not design this to prevent access to people who know how it works or have the time to figure it out. We think of this like a duty holster and just another tool in the kit. (P.S. They come in black!)
It’s a great tool while on the range, out camping with the family, or at home when your riffle needs to be stored readily available! It’s not meant to prevent theft, or to be left unattended when away from your firearm. It’s purely designed to give you an extra level of security while maintaining quick reliable access. 👍🏻
But why is it $149? Is the price here determined more by the idea of it being an accessory for your expensive firearm and being convenient, rather than by its build quality and security (that is, delay for an unauthorized user)? That said, props for keeping it all mechanical. These days, with the market inundated by "smart" locks, I'm willing to pay a premium for a reliable, simple, mechanical product. Just maybe not quite this much of a premium :]
@@kyousouka We would love to be able to bring the price down but being milled out of solid billet aluminum and made here in the USA they are just extremely expensive to manufacture. We had to raise our price recently because we have interest from large retailers wanting to sell it in their stores but with our cost of goods so high we couldn't make that work unless the MSRP was higher. Honestly we're a relatively new business, family owned and operated, and still learning a lot of business related stuff. We didn't design our products to shove them down anyone's throat. We designed and made them because we ourselves personally wanted them and fit our needs. Manufacturability and price point was not our first priority. As we have found, manufacturing here in the USA is very expense compared to offshores but we value the fact that we are creating American manufacturing jobs, even through COVID.
@@StopBoxUSA Thank you for the explanation! I'm curious about the big retailers as that's not something I've ever had to deal with, do they mandate minimum profit margins? Or is it more of an informal "the profit margins on this aren't worth the hassle of stocking it" kind of thing? I'm in a very different business myself (comic books) but I feel you on the USA manufacturing costs (though I suspect in my field, the cost difference isn't quite as harsh). I also try to get everything made in the US whenever possible, because I also want to do my tiny part in keeping manufacturing alive in this country. Business/admin is a huge pain, I wish you luck on finding your feet there! It looks like you're acing PR already. Thanks again for taking the time to respond.
Wouldn't surprise me. It's primary function appears to be as a very visible way of ensuring that the breach is clear. Useful in an Armoury but that's about it.
A great way to make this a much better product would be to have the button on the end of the barrel, 5 buttons, and maybe a push and twist motion to release it
It actually does offer a decent level of protection... against people missing a right hand. Since it's a right handed design, I imagine trying to open it left handed would be at least slightly more difficult.
@asdrubale bisanzio still, 15 combinations shouldn't even qualify for the name "lock". When trying all combinations takes at most a few minutes and is so easy to do that literally anyone could do it, it's inadequate. Especially considering the price
Looks like they designed a lock around being able to remove it quickly with one hand, and kinda forgot that it also needs to provide security to be a lock.
@@Tinfoil_Hardhat I disagree, but that's kind of beside the point -- *if* there is a legal requirement for firearms to be secured with a lock, this product should not be considered compliant with that requirement
@@Tinfoil_Hardhat If the legal requirement was "if it's your gun, you're responsive for any shooting with it" you'd see much better locks in guns. If somebody taking taking your gun and shooting somebody with it would put *you* in prison, people would get real safe for the gun when they cannot hold it in their hand.
Ha! Actually did that once. Had a cable lock through a gun case, was out in the field. Had the wrong key. So my son put the case on the ground and shot the cable with his 45. Funny I never saw LPL try that?
I have a black one and I simply got it for a deterence. Worst case scenario someone finds this in my house and attempts to use it on me sure they may be able to crack it quickly under controlled circumstances but I'd bet money an average person under the stress of robbing someone isn't going to crack this in 30s especially when I'm racing to get my pistol I'd bet the aggressor is going to ditch it and come straight for me or flee.
Nothing replaces teaching the kid about guns, it’s curious kids that don’t understand that mess with guns. I grew up in a house with guns everywhere, my best friends dad had loaded guns everywhere. I been shooting since I was 3 hunting since 11. I had no curiosity to mess or play with them. I have a son and 3 step daughters and they don’t mess with my guns without me. No lock will ever replace education!
Exactly. My dad was military and an avid hunter; he didn't keep anything loaded, closest was a pistol with a full mag next to it in the nightstand, but I still learned not to play with guns _way_ early and learned The Four Rules well before dad took me to the range to shoot for the first time.
While everyone would completely agree about educating your kids on gun safety, I don't believe this lock was intended to prevent access by children, seems like it was meant only to satisfy the bare minimum requirements for "lock up laws".
Curious adolescent.... My parents taught me about firearms and firearm safety when I was 5 years old. From my earliest memories my parents were teaching me to be responsible, conscientious, & courteous. A lock is no substitute for proper education.
Education is no substitute for a fully developed impulse control . Psychology textbooks 150 years ago noted that it was normal for teenagers to hate their parents as a common stepping stone to become functioning adults . This was not entirely accurate but does apply to enough teens that simply teaching them not to kill isn't good enough .
@@johndododoe1411 I sense serious amounts of convoluted nonsense in your post. I sense you are confusing the word I use: "taught" with the kind of severely lacking education that is prevalent in modern university. I am speaking of "Raising Children" and your reference to "impulse control" happens to be part of it. and as far as the normal for kids to "hate" their parents.... Children use the word "Hate" without actually know what the word means or the full implications of it. Children HATE eating Peas... they do not Hate their parents.
@@TheCynysterMind It was the psychology pioneers 150 years ago that claimed hate (actually, they claimed desire to kill their parent), which was obviously exaggerated . Neither they nor I claimed the teens used the word "hate", only that some actually do hate their parents .
@@TheCynysterMind I wish we lived in a world where parents always took the time to teach their kids important lessons. I wish we lived in a world where kids always listened to their parents advice. I wish teens never suffered from depression or suicidal thoughts or had violent urges that aren't their fault. We do not live in such a world. Having worked in Youth Court for 7 years I can tell you that yes, some kids genuinely do hate their parents.
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Let's try all six possible combinations again to make sure it wasn't a fluke
Funny thing is, the method he showed is actually worse than just trying all six combos, at least in the absolute worst case which is what he had it set to. Notice how he had 7 trials, 4 to find one button and 3 to find the other. Obviously this goes away with more buttons, 5 buttons having 10 combos with his method taking 9 steps in the worst case and 6 having 15 with 11 for his method worst case. Also for 6 buttons, if they required 3 buttons pressed instead of just 2, that would bump the number of possible combos up to 20 for free.
here before this is top comment
But then it would make it a flute!
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@@wompastompa3692 On the other had, such a "brainless" method only serves to highlight the flaw of this lock.
149$ for a lock that takes literally anyone with a working hand a maximum of 30 seconds to open... even Masterlock is looking at these guys with smug superiority
>even Masterlock is looking at these guys with smug superiority
Sick burn!
Smug superiority, that is awesome!
It's for people that don't actually need to or want to lock up their weapons but are forced to.
"$149" (dollar sign goes to the left)
I'm beginning to feel sorry for Master Lock, being the punching bag that it is. But, not too sorry.
It seems as though there's an unofficial rule in gun lock making: they're either made by people who don't understand guns, or people who don't understand locks.
Speaking of not understanding guns, I remember seeing (personally) someone fire a barrel lock like a normal bullet because it didn't prevent you from loading a blank, as it only occupied part of the chamber. Like, it didn't go very far, but it just got ejected despite being in the locked state. All you needed to create a blank from the appropriate bullets was a pair of pliers, because the propellant had an internal wall (however thin) between it and the projectile.
Or, hopefully not the case, it was made to circumvent some states' laws that a gun needs to be locked.
@@dalerowe7329 almost *certainly* the case.
Or both
They might as well just have a 1 digit combination lock.
"Not even a deterrent for curious toddlers." is probably a good description.
Nice profile name btw
Why would a toddler be near your gun in the first place? Be responsible, put it somewhere that your family knows where it is and where a toddler can't reach it. My wife and I don't lock up our guns because our safety is a bit more important than some retarded law made by people who have never shot a gun let alone own one.
@@genericwhitemale1114 r/woosh
@@genericwhitemale1114 there is no place toddlers can’t reach. They are expert climbers.
@@genericwhitemale1114 I agree, but a lot of people aren't responsible. the ' In the Home' and 'Safe Storage... In the Home' tabs are the ones you might want to look at.
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The horrible thing is, is that the lock itself looks almost deliberately designed to look appealing to idle hands.
I don't mean just kids. If I saw it I'd be immediately tempted to play with the nice chunky clicky buttons on the shiny red box, and I'm 43. The only thing that would stop me would be respecting the property of whoever I was visiting.
Yea looks like a fidget toy.
*Manipulates "lock" to remove it from gun to play with the "lock" itself
@@idkidk4334 Yeah, forget the gun, I got a new toy!
Yeah, I was thinking the same. That thing can hardly be more "playable".
That’s a news story from the US we all shake our heads at ready to happen
@@idkidk4334 that’s the real strength of the lock
Mathematicians rejoice: a combination lock that's actually a combination lock in the mathematical sense.
Bring on a permutation lock!
Ahah, A step in the right direction.. we can do better than 4C2 though, right.
A combinatori-lock
I was thinking about this 😂 love me some math irl
I also like how his bypass hack took 7 combinations.
Almost seems to me like a "lock in name only": a minimal-security lock to satisfy some states' requirements that a firearm be locked in some scenarios. It doesn't seem to be much more than a chamber flag with a very basic combination lock.
Pretty expensive for a pseudo-lock...
The gun market for all it's general purposes is just heavily inflated on pricing and takes advantage of people with "tactical" and flashy looks.
@@creamwobbly Or perhaps the correlation between election results and weapon sales. Which is not the same thing you said.
Their amazon Q&A address its purpose a bit more clearly: "It’s not meant to prevent theft, or to be left unattended when away from your firearm. It’s purely designed to give you an extra level of security while maintaining quick reliable access. 👍🏻 Think of it as acting similar to a Level 4 duty holster that offers multiple points of retention."
So it's basically just a barebones lock that you put on when it's going to be in close proximity to your person. What I don't understand is, $150? At that price point I'd want an electronic lock that is just as fast to unlock and offers more security for when it's not in close proximity to me.
@@Jomskylark a fucking ziptie would be a better lock than this
I always enjoy the disappointed "okay, folks" when a lock fails miserably.
LPL knows you can do better
@CZcams Creators ✓ Really adding a checkmark after your name to look like you are verified?
@@conorstewart2214 There are no youtube "verified" people.
@@springerworks002 I take it you get what I mean though.
@@springerworks002 the official youtube account is! I've only seen it once.
Sometimes I wonder if he's just showing off his gun collection. Lol
Same
Which btw, are nice guns.
@@Vagabond-lp9gp well he is a lawyer and a big yt guy so I'm sure he can afford the best of the best
@@stompingpeak2043 true very true. Hey i getting richer every time i watch his uploads, because i learn what locks to buy and which ones 2 stay away from and wast my $.
This is the heat-packing lawyer
I’m surprised they don’t just have a single button labeled “UNLOCK” on it, since this clearly is only intended to circumvent the “gun must be locked” laws.
Make stupid laws....
I honestly don't think that's the case, I think this is more of a way to make it so if someone tries to take your gun of you they can't just shoot you with it
@@davidwarford3087 Or, at least it takes them a couple of seconds or so longer to do so.
For 150 buck, I think I can find a cheaper lock to fit that purpose
@@davidwarford3087 That use case doesn't make sense because you wouldn't have the lock on your AR-15 in a situation where you want to use it and there is a baddie within close enough distance to grab it out of your hands and turn it around on you. You would have taken the lock off already... (I guess there's a rare case where you sleep with it under your pillow or on your nightstand, lol, and the home intruder wakes you up as you both grab it).
Are you thinking that someone would just normally carry their AR around with this lock on it, and use it like a special safety? Like a paintball barrel plug? For cops/soldiers or crazed militia types who just walk around with AR's all day? Like how a good holster prevents a crazy from grabbing a handgun off a cop's belt while they're just out patrolling? That's such a limited and weird use case, but I guess it would make sense in that situation.
must be hard for lpl to leave his house, locks his front door then accidentally unlocks it by catching a glimpse of the key way in the corner of his eye
lmfao
I don't even think he carries any keys
@@HandledToaster2 haha good point
@@HandledToaster2 only tools
I'd argue a steel cored zip tie with a shielded tongue is more secure.
A cable lock with the key attached to the cable with a split ring would take longer!
Tbh steel core zip ties are more secure than almost all locks
I'd argue a basically free, disposable plastic zip tie is more secure. Certainly more cost effective than that overdesigned hunk o' metal :O
That can be opened with a laughably freely available key? No point in that either.
This is less secure than a combination wheel lock with 1 digit.
someone made that old game "Crocodile Dentist" into a gun lock...
Oh. I was going to go for the Guitar Hero for DS accessory…
F both games. made my hand hurt.
@@minigolfkid Now that you mention it, I thought it was familiar XD. Let's make our locks look *more* like toys...
@@minigolfkid genius
@@SREDISKRAD Especially when they're made specifically for securing non-toy things.
The little "Fort Knox" coin safes we probably all had as kids were more challenging than this lock, and that was just protecting my spare change and birthday card money.
There's a video somewhere of him getting into them. He knocked out the hinge pin!
The coin safe I had as a child had a 1 digit combination. One. Digit.
i had to pull on the door while spinning the dial at least 3 full revolutions to get mine unlocked. fast, but much slower than this 'lock'
@@rhiiazami one digit gives 10 combinations, better than this lock.
Mine simply had two buttons you had to press at the same time and then the door would pop open. It had no other buttons, no dial, nothing. Just two buttons on the top. Turn the safe upside-down, set it down, and the weight of an empty safe would press the buttons enough to open the thing.
Please tell me I'm not the only person who has noticed that that is an absolutely gorgeous SBR. You have good taste in firearms.
Especially as it's a homebuilt (according to LPL comments on a previous video with this rifle).
I see Daniel Defense parts too.
*Fort Knox*
LPL: "I'm going to open this vault with a twig, a penguin, and yesterday's newspaper."
The newspaper is for swatting the architect who picked a bad lock.
@@Zraknul and the penguin is just for fun
And that makes for opening it six times in 60 seconds, just to proved that neither method was a fluke. I wonder how the Fluke company feels about their name.
@@scarfboy Good because they're hard to source where I live; if a penguin is required to defeat the lock then it's practically undefeatable. But in this case the lock is more like a doorhandle (which are sold by gun companies as a "lock with two possible combinations: open and closed").
Maybe it's for people in states that require locks on guns who don't actually want locks on their guns.
You could be right, but I don't know that "people who don't actually want to lock their guns" would be willing to pay $150 for the lock that they don't want
@@Snommelp i would if it's that fast to get off the gun and is built well so it doesn't break. If i bought this it would be for legal compliance, not to "lock" the gun.
@@Snommelp they absolutely would. They'll pay hundreds of dollars for an unfinished part and finish machining it themselves so they don't have to register with the ATF
@@Snommelp That just makes me think of zip ties. Are there any states where they qualify? {not-a-serious-question}
@@michaelcummings4289 yeah cause the atf is a bunch of scumbags that have burned children alive and change the law at a whim all the time.
"it can be unlocked fairly easily"
Oh boy, I'll say
This channel is basically him just telling people not to fuck with him as he can get into your house with no effort and has an arsenal to back him up
@CZcams Creators ✓ leave bot
An elaborated flex
He's going to pick your lock and than shoot you with a noisy as fuck gun?
Nah he's going to pick your lock(s) and then use a serious business knife, or a piece of red bull can. And then presumably ride off with your bike. Sleep well.
And that arsenal...
Might be yours!
This summer...
@@Zraknul Nah, he'd go full Anton Chigurh and use his Ramset.
this is what happens when you say “anything is better than nothing”
Welcome to California...
It technically is better than nothing. But barely.
@@Zraknul every second counts in stopping someone from stealing a gun
My first thought when seeing the lock was "This is probably intended to meet the minimum standard for some sort of storage law." Then he said it cost $149...
Some states requires folks to have an lock on their guns, but the law doesn't say anything about requiring the lock to be a /good/ lock, just a 'lock'.
@@stevenrice47 Well yea. That's why I said that was my first thought. They usually have minimum requirements and many companies will make a bare minimum lock. The $149 price tag seems high to me for that.
@Van To hey
For the premium of $149 you buy the privilege of not (really) having to lock your rifle, but still be compliant to the (letter of) the law... Yuk.
That thing serves exactly one purpose: Complying with legal requirements while restricting access as little as possible
I can do that, and save $140.
Exactly. There may be a use case where you're realistically the only person with access to the weapon, but the law requires it be locked up.
True, but you can do that for 10 dollars, not 150.
Not according with the manufacturers marketing... next best thing since sliced bread
@@williamschoenfeld1773 Yes, that's true. A slice of bread is only slightly better at securing an AR-15 than this device.
This is the kind of lock someone who doesn't actually believe in gun locks gets, just to appease someone else. Perhaps another person, or some legal requirement.
And there's the target market, folks.
I don't understand that mindset. If someone is an advocate for firearms but doesn't follow basic firearm safety and even actively dislikes firearm safety, then they make the rest of the firearm-owning community look bad. We need to take firearms seriously, they aren't toys. That shit won't fly in a gun club.
@@katyungodly Some states require a lock on the firearm. Question is, if I live alone and do not have a gun safe. Why am I locking my firearm? It's a stupid law and I am glad my state does not have it
@@katyungodly Gun safety is more about mindset and safe handling. It's not about gadgets. I want a safe to prevent thefts, but beyond that, I have no use for gun locks. Most gun locks won't stop a thief; they just take the locked case with them, and break into it later. They're only useful for deterring other members of the household from accessing the guns easily (like kids, or maybe a roommate).
There are several reason why I don't own a gun safe yet. #1 We used to move from apartment to apartment, and portable safe are pointless for the same reason as other kinds of gun locks. #2 Research. Any fan of LPL knows that most locks and "safes" can be easily opened. Worse, most "gun safes" after not actually true safes; they're "residential security containers". They're expensive, heavy, and inconvenient, but they won't actually stop a thief. They will only allow the thief down for a few minutes.
"An RSC-rated container (gun cabinet) will resist forced opening for up to five minutes by an attacker using simple, non-powered hand tools. We’re talking screwdrivers, hammers (must be less than 3 lbs.), and pry bars (must be less than 18″ long). RSC containers are not rated against any attack by power tools of any kind, or any attack lasting longer than five minutes."
www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gun-safes-and-residential-security-containers-know-what-youre-really-buying/
Seriously, 5 minutes. Frankly, I'm not rich enough to spend $1000 or more on something that will only be a mild inconvenience to a thief.
@@katyungodly most gun laws aren’t written with safety or practicality or effectiveness in mind. They’re written by politicians trying to pander to liberal Karens.
LMAO this guy showing off his Daniel Defense. Legend
It’s fun knowing I can take a 10 minute break and basically watch 6 vids on the channel
Almost kinda sad knowing there all locks he’s defeating. I’m betting he will start making locks in a few years. The man knows his stuff
@@andytuesday500 straight up this man has convinced me no truly secure lock exists and lock companies give absolutely zero f*cks about the quality or design of their products
@@NikkiBudders I know. I’ve used master locks on my tool box’s at work for over 20 years. Haaaa. Now I can pick them in a couple seconds. I taught my niece who’s 10 to pick master locks. 😂. It’s kinda scary.
@@snowcow1173 haaaaa. She’s a girl. They are not capable of such things. I definitely wouldn’t teach the younger boys.
My channel too. Come on over.
Raises the question until when a device can still be considered a lock. What about if it had only 1 or 2 combinations - is that still a lock? And 6 combinations - come on, seriously?
By that logic a screw can be considered a lock. Your 2 choices are turn it left or turn it right.
@@musickid43 Don't worry, the manufacturers thought of that too: czcams.com/video/CHOCYiruKMA/video.html
An original 3x3x3 Rubics Cube puzzle took some effort to open. I saw a novelty toy that was a 2 part cube with an axle connecting the halves. The packaging said _Over 3 different positions, and only 1 is correct!_
It was a simple gag gift at an appropriate price.
This lock has 50% more combinations. Why isn't it a $2 toy?
@@musickid43 or a door handle. But considering the video linked that was literally just a piece of plastic with a screw in it as a trigger "lock" I'm surprised no one has sold just a stick you jam in the barrel. "Had two sets, stick in barrel and stick not in barrel"
There's 4 combinations on placing the last jigsaw piece in a puzzle...
You have an absolutely incredible collection
I just appreciate how you manage to shove so much info in such a short video.
Seems like this lock sells for $150 more than it should.
$130-140 more to be serious.
They should pay you 1 cent to use it
@@rosearachnid879 this comment made me chortle
LPL: *pulls out ar-15* “Today we’re going to be experimenting with alternate methods of entry…”
You know he has taken large padlocks out to the range and shot them with large caliber bullets before, right?
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Quite literally right next to your comment on my scrolling.
@@Nerdnumberone Yes, he's also used explosives. I really want to see LPL in a Russian tank vs. some massive, ridiculous lock.
And a rather nice (Daniel Defense) AR-15.
@@barrettbrown8817 T-34 vs bank vault door, sounds like something FPSRussia would do.
I knew this product was a joke when I first saw it, and none of my feedback (exactly the feedback you mentioned here about the design) was listened to, and they just dug in their heels. I'm so glad you reviewed this.
LPL casually letting everyone know he's packing
Each time he shows us an AR-15 lock he's using a different rifle.
I think tying the Ar to something with a difficult knot pulled tight would be more secure. At least they would have to take a few moments to find a knife to cut the string.
exactly. Zip tying it to the wall through those little circular pins would be more secure than this.
Anyone reading this page who wanted to do that would have LPL's daily carry pocket knife, or its cousin, in hand already...
You could advertise it as slash resistant too
yeah but then it could still be fired (such as by that curious adolescent), potentially causing harm and/or destruction of property. Also, it would be just as difficult for you to get the weapon if and when you need it.
@@ebreshea You can put the cord through the ejection port and out the magazine well, and then it won't chamber or cycle.
This literally seems like the kind if lock you get in puzzle games.
Bright and easy to spot with tempting buttons, and once you play around with the buttons a bit it becomes easy to figure out the combination after a minute or two
Lmao yes. It's the kind of lock you'd find hiding loot in Resident Evil
It’s the kind of thing I’d expect in an escape room puzzle
I was JUST about to buy one and send it in.
But this is just perfect timing.
can we just talk ab how he’s so majorly strapped up? i love this guy 😂
Jfc, *six* combinations.
Like...The body might be solid, but it doesn't take a genius to see that 6 combinations simply isn't enough.
The shittiest lock I've owned (a crappy lock that could be pried open by hand with just 3 wheels) still had 1000.
This wouldn't even deter the most impatient of toddlers
"While this does seem to be well-made, it shouldn't have been made in the first place."
@@Jacks_Suffocating_Nihilism Exactly
Hell, even allowing for *all* permutations to be possible you have 24 combinations at most. Brute force in under a minute.
@@samiraperi467 Allowing all possible combinations would be 16 total options.
@@invenblocker eh? What are you guys talking about?
As designed: 1-2,1-3,1-4,2-3,2-4,3-4.
Allowing any combination of up to 4 adds: 1-2-3-4,1-2-3,1-2-4,1-3-4,2-3-4.
That's 11, or 15 if you allow single number "combinations," not 16 or 24?
I have a feeling LPL's gun collection is as impressive as his lock collection...
I was thinking the same thing.
This seems to operate on the idea that if the thing appears locked, people are less likely to steal it. The lock will likely work as a good deterrent as long as the perpetrator doesn’t know how it works.
Or it’s circumventing the locked gun requirement some places have, as many commenters pointed out. That likely is the main motivation.
This doesn't prevent anyone from stealing it, it just keeps the gun from being fired, and it seems to be (just barely) complicated enough to make it unlikely to be removed by accident. Had the pistol Alec Baldwin was fooling around with had one of these that director of photography would still be alive. It has a place, it's just that that place can be filled just as effectively by something a lot cheaper.
daniel defense, i see you're a man of culture
Yeah, I noticed too! :D
It's like how I played that Alligator game when I was a kid. You could push the teeth a little bit down to figure out if he would chomp down.
you just hit me with a truck of childhood game nostalgia. i miss connect 4 and that horror&torture game operation
This would be quickly circumvented by any child. I see the appeal of a quick-release, one-handed lock but if it will ever be encountered by a child, it's not worth the money.
Just the color would interest younger children to take a closer look. I assume they have different colors but still what a pile of garbage.
That's why you educate your kids in firearm safety
@@zodiacthriller6094 and nieces and nephews and their friends...
My. brother was sleeping in and two of his friends came over to the house. They decided to wake him up, with my father's 45. They thought it was unloaded and his best friend almost "dry fired" it... a few minutes later they (the friends) were playing with it in another room and discharged a round in to the floor. Accidents happen even when you try to train kids, it's not a panacea!
Not to mention you also need to insert a magazine and hit the bolt release before you can even do anything.
@@matthewstoughton3532 The funny thing is that you don’t. The whole concept of it was that you can keep a loaded magazine in the rifle and the bolt held open while it IS installed. Once removed, all that needs to be done to fire it is to push the bolt release and possibly flip off the safety if you had even chosen to engage it in the first place.
Maintaining positive control of a weapon is the ONLY way to prevent mishaps.
This thing is a piece of junk.
As a conscripted member of the Swiss army I had a SG 550 at home.
My solution for this problem is that I remove the breech block and hide it somewhere.
(To be precise the gun was at my parents apartment and the breech block was at my place)
Yeah, if you're storing a 550 or AK construction type that's a great way. If it's AR like this then separate the entire upper
Hey LPL, really enjoy your content. Would love to see a few videos where you show some really good locks.
Masterlock: Let’s make a more secure version where you need to use ALL the buttons for your code!
It would still just be 16 permutations.
@@lordkrythic6246 nope, just one ! x)
@@lordkrythic6246 Permutation is relevant only when order is involved. This is a combination-only device in a mathematical sense.
4C4 = 1. Always.
And even if it was permutation problem, 4P4 = 24, not 16. It's not 4x4.
Double fail.
@@MeowtronStar
No, you.
@@lordkrythic6246 Could you give me the possible combinations in which all 4 buttons are pressed then?
Err... How is this a lock? This feels closer to a puzzle toy.
Perfect for a 6 year old!
Ages 3 and up.
Because it's technically a lock and some places require a lock on a firearm being stored.
Master #3 with rainbow picks .... 10$
Definitely a quick access lock for those times where the owner doesn't want to lock it but is required to by law
Thank you for the review. I was looking at this for a "lock" for keeping next to me.
"So, how many combinations does that make?"
"6."
"So, if you enter the wrong combination, it explodes?"
"No."
"Seizes up, making it impossible to unlock without a bypass key?"
"No."
"Rings a loud alarm to warn the owner?"
"No."
"So, what does it do?"
"Eh, allow you to try a different combination. Also, if you got one key right, that key seizes so you just need to find the other one."
"So, how many combinations does that make?"
"6."
"Wow, 6 million"
"No."
Pokemon had a better lock design in gen 1. That lock sucks
Ofc he has a Daniel Defense sbr AR. Tbh I love watching his gun lock vids because he shows off a different gun in each one.
also what looks like a dead air mount on it.
Are we just not gonna talk about that sick AR? Nice build LPL!
The StopBox series of products are locks for people living in States that by law require a lock, but in households that do not.
LPL just wanted to show off his two-stamp build. :)
Beautiful rifle. I had to watch twice because the first time I was checking out the selector, and then the whole rifle. He has exquisite tastes.
Was thinking the same thing
Maybe Sbr if it’s not an “arm brace” what’s the other stamp?
@@Menuki he has a suppressor adapter muzzle device. Which implies he has a suppressor for it
That's what I was thinking too 😂. LPL flexin on us with that Daniel defense 2 stamp
It has to be made just to say "the gun was locked" for CA gun laws.
too expensive for that use
Malicious compliance.
@@Anfidurl hell yeah.
When I lived in CA, I used a $5 Harbor Freight toolbox and a TSA padlock when I transported my handgun to the range.
IIRC, owning an SBR is illegal in CA.
Hey Daniel Defense was the first Gun manufacturer I ever bought a firearm from... glad to see one in the channel!
I see a use for this thing: The State of California.
If you are the only one in the home, and you are in the home, the State of California requires your firearms be USING a locking device. This thing is zero to "you picked the wrong house, dude" in about one second.
It's important to know, should one attempt to use it for that purpose, that even if it meets the minimum requirement of the law, it's no real impediment to another individual gaining access to your firearm.
presumably actual gun vaults are made more securely than the lockboxes you keep demonstrating a young child could open, accidentally, but … honestly I kind of wonder!
As a German I'm just wondering, is it really that necessary to have gunlocks that fall of if you look at them funny? We have burglaries too of course but basically none with deadly intent, most just want your TV at best. How bad is it in the USA?
@@QuintarFarenor Here are some stats from 2010 on home invasions and burglaries: bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/ascii/vdhb.txt
It can get pretty bad here.
@@Chaooo ah yea it's 10times higher then in Germany
@@QuintarFarenor It heavily depends on the part of the USA. The parts near the Mexican border can be pretty bad with the trans-border drug cartels that pretty much run large parts of Mexico. Drug gangs in parts of inner cities can be pretty bad, too. Even otherwise-petty crime is frequently drug related, specifically addicts trying to steal something they can sell quickly for drug money.
Most of the U.S. is safe, but there are several relatively small parts of it that make the overall statistics look a lot worse. Although, I say "relatively small" because they're small relative to the entire U.S., but the area along the Mexican border in particular is larger (in landmass) than several entire European countries, though most of it is far less populated.
@@QuintarFarenor It's not a burglary I'm worried about. People enter other people's homes for other reasons than to take stuff. And even if they do just want stuff, they can't have it.
Let's expose the key pins and provide a built-in tensioning tool, what could go wrong? The person who designed this clearly understood neither locks nor guns.
Being a visual representation of basic picking techniques might be its only worthwhile use.
Or he understood guns and doesn't like locks. It's totally possible that this thing was manufactured to comply with some stupid law that requires firearms to be locked but doesn't define any minimum quality for the lock. The most important feature of this lock is that's fast to remove.
@@MikkoRantalainen If there was no quality floor, it would have all-plastic construction.
I sincerely believe it was a misguided attempt to be a good gun lock. The designer just wasn't very familiar with the lock part and made elementary mistakes.
We see this almost every time he attacks a "smart" lock, there's glaring security issues a real lock designer would've identified. Lock design is hard, and people with no background in lock design keep thinking it isn't.
The use case I can actually think of for this is: shooting ranges at gun shows. It makes sense as a socially nice "you can pick up my gun and look at it, but not fiddle with it in any way that you can chamber a round until we're at your firing position" sort of lock- in that case only, so far as I have been able to imagine.
Even then, a lock for a purpose like that doesn't have to be this well made and this expensive.
Agree, a simple cable lock would do the same for a fraction of the cost.
They literally use zip ties for that purpose
Basically, a locking chamber flag.
So a chamber flag? Or just removing the firing pin...
That is a super clean AR💯💯💯
This guy is on the list 100% for my apocalypse team 5 mins or less on every vid..... Dudes a savage wth locks👍👍😎
This should be sold as a range safety device rather than a lock.
Wouldn't a wood dowel be better? same function, cheaper, and if the bolt did go forward less likely to damage/scratch anything. Maybe paint the stick red if you want to spend some extra?
@@coreytaggart128 😆 yeah you're 100% right on that
Isn't that what the chamber flag things are for?
@@mattjohns3394 yes, but that's about as useful as this "lock" is
@@nathanmonahan6157 and it doesn't cost $149.
Surely this product is just for theater: to "comply" with some gun law rather than actually serve its purpose.
hehe hammer go brrrr
You could find gun locks that serve that purpose for far cheaper
It's about as theatrical as the TSA is.
What a legend he is for buying an ar15 just to show us a lock for it
The lock picking lawyer has a really nice ar pistol because he knows how little locks actually stop people from breaking into stuff
“To stop a curious adolescent”. Dude, something that easy to decode isn’t going to stop a toddler with Attention Deficit Disorder.
As someone who was a toddler with ADD, this is exactly the kind of thing that would grab my interest.
Hell, it's going to attract toddlers with ADD, just look at the shiny thing with buttons!
Press button, run round house, press other button and now I have a gun and run round the house..
@@theencolony5595 I have an add type illness and my God I want to press them all. Someone contact fidget and spinner tell then we have a v2..
There are fidget toys that are more boring to a child with ADHD than this lock.
I just realized that LPL got a lot of weapons at home. It's like a hidden message: "I show you how to break into my house and here's the reason why you should never ever even think about doing it"
Not to mention the bear traps, moat and dragon in cellar!
A good quick access safe can get you from 'completely locked up' to 'In your hands' in under 2 seconds.
@@ChaimS ...When calm and already wide awake.
No. I agree. Armed, freaking out, and not yet fully awake is a good recipe for a swiss-cheese wall, where the safest person in the room is the guy in FRONT of the gun.
🤨 I guarantee you that LPL has never made a video featuring how to pick any lock he uses on his own house.
@@johnnyjohnson6643 I'm not so sure. He's picked a lot of locks, but his skill at picking and defeating locks is up there. He has praised many locks, including the PacLock line, who he has also worked with for special projects, even as he picked them.
I suspect he has chosen from among those which gave him the most trouble in picking or bypassing, but I suspect he has reviewed the locks he uses in his own home.
Lock Picking with the power of combinatorics
That is a beautiful weapon.
If it isn’t inconvenient, it isn’t securing anything
That's the problem with locks on guns used for self defense though. I don't want them several steps away from being used.... that's too long.
If you think you need immediate access to it at all times, then you might as well just not lock it up. You certainly shouldn't waste 150 bones on a piece of junk like this.
Hell, the safety would probably offer more security than this.
I can respect home defense, really. But ffs, don't waste your money on useless trinkets. If you have kids, maybe teach them to respect firearms so that accidents are less likely to occur.
The best security is convenient to an authorised user and inconvenient to an unauthorised user. This product is a failure because it requires an attacker only fifteen times more effort to brute force the lock than it does the authorised user, but security that is too inconvenient to an authorised user will be bypassed or go unused because people are lazy.
Might as well pay me instead of buying that lock, I'm just as useless as it is, but I will thank you for the money personally.
Pulls out a DD
Ok, don't mess with the LPL
I can't get rid of the idea of lpl on saw just making the traps look stupid
"this is the lockpicking lawyer, and what i have for you today is the reverse bear trap. as you can see, it is securely attached to my head and it wont release unless i maim myself. however this seemingly daunting device is home to a very unfortunate flaw, that being that the creator of this has opted to bolt it together instead of a more reliable method like welding or machining"
*undoes 3 bolts and takes it off his head
"now lets do that one more time to make sure it wasnt a fluke"
*puts it back on
*takes it off
"ok folks, although this device looks dangerous, i never trust it to work under the high pressure situations that it's needed in, in any case i thank you for watching
if you have any questions or comments, leave them down below
if you like this content and would like to see more like it please subscribe
and as always, have a nice day"
"Alright, to get out of this one it looks like I'm going to have to dislocate my fingers.
That's a click out of one, big click out of two, three is binding, lets pull harder - there it goes..."
I would pay an admission fee to see the lockpicking lawyer do a Saw trap review... lol
@@shotgun3628 you win the internet today
I'm sure y'all will enjoy this then: czcams.com/video/HAa2-Jkm0q4/video.html
To be fair:
You would have to know there can only be combinations of exactly 2 buttons held down and the top button being the release button to be able to go through the possible combinations so quickly and effortless.
If it was me wanting to open the lock, I would just press each button individually and afterwards try all sorts of combinations. There would be 31 possible combinations, not 6.
The conclusion would be the same, however. 31 still isn't a lot of combinations. It would only protect against someone stealing the gun in front of your eyes, giving you enough time to react.
Not now though!
Sequential ly you would only have to go through 10 (6+4 for single keys) and leave the remaining before it unlocked. Presuming you didnt do it in binary number order or something strange.
Can we just take a moment to appreciate the variety of LPLs firearm collection. I'm honestly jealous!
I have been curious about this, thank you
Mans got a danny ar would have never guessed he was a gun guy too
Thank you LPL for taking a look at our StopBox! For anyone wondering about the intended use, here's a quick example. Our device is intended to provide retention from quick access to others. Similar to how a Police Officer's duty holster typically has 2 or 3 locking points. They are by no means impenetrable. Especially for someone who knows how the holster works, but it provides a level of security that would give the Officer time to react and secure their gun. Similarly, if you would otherwise leave your AR out of a safe, then the StopBox would give an extra layer of security that won't slow you down but will slow someone else down. This gives you time to react. We did not design this to prevent access to people who know how it works or have the time to figure it out. We think of this like a duty holster and just another tool in the kit. (P.S. They come in black!)
It’s a great tool while on the range, out camping with the family, or at home when your riffle needs to be stored readily available! It’s not meant to prevent theft, or to be left unattended when away from your firearm. It’s purely designed to give you an extra level of security while maintaining quick reliable access. 👍🏻
This is helpful for sure!
But why is it $149? Is the price here determined more by the idea of it being an accessory for your expensive firearm and being convenient, rather than by its build quality and security (that is, delay for an unauthorized user)?
That said, props for keeping it all mechanical. These days, with the market inundated by "smart" locks, I'm willing to pay a premium for a reliable, simple, mechanical product. Just maybe not quite this much of a premium :]
@@kyousouka We would love to be able to bring the price down but being milled out of solid billet aluminum and made here in the USA they are just extremely expensive to manufacture. We had to raise our price recently because we have interest from large retailers wanting to sell it in their stores but with our cost of goods so high we couldn't make that work unless the MSRP was higher. Honestly we're a relatively new business, family owned and operated, and still learning a lot of business related stuff. We didn't design our products to shove them down anyone's throat. We designed and made them because we ourselves personally wanted them and fit our needs. Manufacturability and price point was not our first priority. As we have found, manufacturing here in the USA is very expense compared to offshores but we value the fact that we are creating American manufacturing jobs, even through COVID.
@@StopBoxUSA Thank you for the explanation! I'm curious about the big retailers as that's not something I've ever had to deal with, do they mandate minimum profit margins? Or is it more of an informal "the profit margins on this aren't worth the hassle of stocking it" kind of thing?
I'm in a very different business myself (comic books) but I feel you on the USA manufacturing costs (though I suspect in my field, the cost difference isn't quite as harsh). I also try to get everything made in the US whenever possible, because I also want to do my tiny part in keeping manufacturing alive in this country.
Business/admin is a huge pain, I wish you luck on finding your feet there! It looks like you're acing PR already. Thanks again for taking the time to respond.
Looking at price and performances, they must have thought it was for a government contract ...
Wouldn't surprise me. It's primary function appears to be as a very visible way of ensuring that the breach is clear. Useful in an Armoury but that's about it.
A great way to make this a much better product would be to have the button on the end of the barrel, 5 buttons, and maybe a push and twist motion to release it
like that ambi safety and anti walking pins setup on the trigger
It actually does offer a decent level of protection... against people missing a right hand. Since it's a right handed design, I imagine trying to open it left handed would be at least slightly more difficult.
Not in Australia, everything is upside down so lefties would be fine. 💯🤪
@@NorthernSeaWitch now that was funny 🤣😂😁👍👍👍👍
LPL: That means there are only 6 possible combinations.
Master Lock: Hold my beer.
really diggin' that DD!
Chamber-trigger and a point-note.
6 combinations? That is insultingly low
@asdrubale bisanzio what is this EA?
@@snekles6449 they only cost $15.99 each
@asdrubale bisanzio still, 15 combinations shouldn't even qualify for the name "lock".
When trying all combinations takes at most a few minutes and is so easy to do that literally anyone could do it, it's inadequate.
Especially considering the price
Looks like they designed a lock around being able to remove it quickly with one hand, and kinda forgot that it also needs to provide security to be a lock.
It fits the legal requirements of having a lock on your firearm, but is very quickly removed for when said firearm needs to be removed
If this meets the legal requirements, the legal requirements are inadequate
@@electronerd There shouldn't be a legal requirement in the first place.
@@Tinfoil_Hardhat I disagree, but that's kind of beside the point -- *if* there is a legal requirement for firearms to be secured with a lock, this product should not be considered compliant with that requirement
@@Tinfoil_Hardhat If the legal requirement was "if it's your gun, you're responsive for any shooting with it" you'd see much better locks in guns. If somebody taking taking your gun and shooting somebody with it would put *you* in prison, people would get real safe for the gun when they cannot hold it in their hand.
Can I just say that is a beautiful firearm
i like that you qualified this one as being inadequate to deter a curious youngster. that's an important baseline.
Don't Americans just use their other gun to remove their gun lock?
Perhaps if the gun lock is this simple.
That worked until prices went up. If it takes three bullets, the bullets are more expensive than this lock.
At these ammo prices???
No no no, you've got that confused with their large WD 40 can lid with their mini WD 40 can.
Ha! Actually did that once. Had a cable lock through a gun case, was out in the field. Had the wrong key. So my son put the case on the ground and shot the cable with his 45.
Funny I never saw LPL try that?
That’s the end of the good news.
I know, I was like, "oh, boy, here we go with the bad." lol
Beautiful rifle!!!! 😍
This looks like something designed for legal compliance rather than actual security.
It's also designed to rob it's customers. If the only goal was legal compliance it is way over-engineered.
I have a black one and I simply got it for a deterence. Worst case scenario someone finds this in my house and attempts to use it on me sure they may be able to crack it quickly under controlled circumstances but I'd bet money an average person under the stress of robbing someone isn't going to crack this in 30s especially when I'm racing to get my pistol I'd bet the aggressor is going to ditch it and come straight for me or flee.
Nothing replaces teaching the kid about guns, it’s curious kids that don’t understand that mess with guns. I grew up in a house with guns everywhere, my best friends dad had loaded guns everywhere. I been shooting since I was 3 hunting since 11. I had no curiosity to mess or play with them. I have a son and 3 step daughters and they don’t mess with my guns without me. No lock will ever replace education!
Exactly.
My dad was military and an avid hunter; he didn't keep anything loaded, closest was a pistol with a full mag next to it in the nightstand, but I still learned not to play with guns _way_ early and learned The Four Rules well before dad took me to the range to shoot for the first time.
Nothing will ever replaceeducation. In all possible fields. Never.
While everyone would completely agree about educating your kids on gun safety, I don't believe this lock was intended to prevent access by children, seems like it was meant only to satisfy the bare minimum requirements for "lock up laws".
Living in "a house with guns everywhere" is an accident waiting to happen. Education is not what let you survive this , luck did that.
@@nonsuch9301 nothing like showing the world how “woke” you are. You get two virtue signaling points. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
“That’s the end of the good news”
Ruh roh.
Flexing on us with that Daniel Defense hardware.
The new model offers one convenient combination to save time.
I would not buy the lock but I would give the LLP high praise for his choice of Daniel defense for his AR15 needs...
I love how LPL has at least 3 completely different AR15s.
Curious adolescent.... My parents taught me about firearms and firearm safety when I was 5 years old.
From my earliest memories my parents were teaching me to be responsible, conscientious, & courteous.
A lock is no substitute for proper education.
Kids have to be old enough to understand when taught about the seriousness of guns, but they are still curious before that.
Education is no substitute for a fully developed impulse control . Psychology textbooks 150 years ago noted that it was normal for teenagers to hate their parents as a common stepping stone to become functioning adults . This was not entirely accurate but does apply to enough teens that simply teaching them not to kill isn't good enough .
@@johndododoe1411 I sense serious amounts of convoluted nonsense in your post. I sense you are confusing the word I use: "taught" with the kind of severely lacking education that is prevalent in modern university.
I am speaking of "Raising Children" and your reference to "impulse control" happens to be part of it.
and as far as the normal for kids to "hate" their parents.... Children use the word "Hate" without actually know what the word means or the full implications of it.
Children HATE eating Peas... they do not Hate their parents.
@@TheCynysterMind It was the psychology pioneers 150 years ago that claimed hate (actually, they claimed desire to kill their parent), which was obviously exaggerated . Neither they nor I claimed the teens used the word "hate", only that some actually do hate their parents .
@@TheCynysterMind I wish we lived in a world where parents always took the time to teach their kids important lessons. I wish we lived in a world where kids always listened to their parents advice. I wish teens never suffered from depression or suicidal thoughts or had violent urges that aren't their fault. We do not live in such a world. Having worked in Youth Court for 7 years I can tell you that yes, some kids genuinely do hate their parents.
OMG. I was actually going to message you to ask for a video on this lock. Thank you!!