Bathtub in Shower FAILURE --- Bad Waterproofing Design
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- čas přidán 31. 08. 2023
- Freestanding bathtubs in shower are a trendy design that can save space. But it can be very difficult to waterproof the drain connection properly as it goes through the tile floor.
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Can’t wait to see how you resolve this situation. BTW, love the new content. Take your time and make the videos that bring you joy.
Very interested in seeing the work put back together. Getting a good waterproof and quality finish to match existing is always a challenge
Tile couch!!! You’ve helped me so much and I built a beautiful bathroom for my parents. It’s your life, enjoy it how you want. The content on your channel has helped people, will help someone today and years to come.
Thanks for all of your content you've made. I have been watching a LOT of it as I am in the middle of DIY steam shower. It is 5x5 and I have been so anxious to be very tedious. Your hard work posting this content is soo appreciated.
Love your videos. Ive been working up the courage to try to do my walk in shower. Im a single mom building a small house in Oklahoma. I love that you go through all the steps. Ive learned so much watching your channel for the last year. You and Sal! I think you are an amazing human being for helping people. Fire is no joke, i remember evacuating as a kid in northern Arizona. Scary stuff for sure.
I love watching all of your videos. I have learned so much from watching your videos the past two years. Please don’t ever stop uploading. It NEVER gets stale! Your calling is to teach and show everyone the right way how to do custom showers ! Would love to meet you one day and pick your brain
about to start a bath remodel here at my house in Roseville. you've been a huge help Isaac. Thanks
Great video. Scary how easy tiles come off when spot bonding is used.
Be careful with your truck in SF. I saw Matt on the Build channel got his truck broken into while in SF.
i love how you keep your composure when taking apart that drain...
Glad feeling better & everyone needs a some kind of a break from CZcams & uploading, glad finding “enjoyment against” from work & uploading as very important imo.
Cheers✌🏻
Nice Crocs im going half to try them out on the next floor demolition in my wifes kitchen they look cozy like Deadpool would say 😁 love your videos been following for awhile learning new things and how to do it right the first time been doing tile floors for awhile and i still learn new things when watching your videos. Up next is the wifes kitchen floor. Wish i could take vacation for a week and come out spend a week just too work with you guys and learn more things probably from the best tile guys on CZcams!!!
Just love seeing the jobs you come across. Hoping to see a follow up
Glad to have you service the bay area! I might want to hire you one day for one of my homes!
Isaac, Im quite excited to see your plan on how to waterproof the shower 😂.
I'll stay tuned 🤟👊💜
I'm a C-54 in Marin since '91. I've repaired dozens of leaking showers. Love your content but for the first time I have to disagree with your approach on this one. I always try to find the least expensive fix. Once the tub was out I would have exposed the funky tub drain, then isolated it with a temporary pan material "patch" and then water tested the whole pan. It would have passed, saved the H.O. thousands. Secondly, I confess to have used the spot bond (dollop) technique in a few problem areas. If you back butter the porcelain, upon removal the Hardibacker comes with it (Prolite T-set). Of course open space behind the tile is always bad. Third, Placerville to Novato can be traversed in 1.5 hours if you have a helicopter. It once took me 5 hrs with traffic. I know you are closer but I worked for a short while in S.F. when I lived in Sac years ago, nightmare! Keep em coming, you are a natural on camera! Looking forward to you helping out that lady up north. We breathed those poor people's ashes for weeks down here. I like to think they are part of us now. My two cents...
Boot licking is disgusting dude! I’m c54 since 84 and this dude is lame! Everyone knows failure when you rip out the work…That’s how we learn what failed…But this kid likes to boast on that he is the Tile God! Makes me cringe…I’ve tiled 20000 sq ft homes in Woodside, California and just watching all these boys giving him props is just a blah blah blah!
but the subflooring was wet
You always think about the situation and have a plan....or at least plan A and plan B, etc. Thanks for sharing
Great post! Bummer about dudes BR. Glad y'all are getting the work. Keep us posted!!🤙🏻
🤩🤩🤩🤩Great work guys, I love see you come up with a solution and look forward for your next posts. See you on the next one 🤩🤩🤩🤩
Looking forward to the next one.
Love the trouble shooting.. Nice job as always..
Can't wait,thank you
God bless you Isaac.
Every single time you make this type of videos you sound like you never make any mistake.
Nice work Issac
What an awkward bathroom . You are a better man then me being non emotional to this hack job. All I can think of is the filth of soap scum and mold build up behind that tub . Cant wait to see your vision on the fix.
Desert all the time love..love Anthony in California 😊😊😊❤❤💕🌎🔥💯
Great video!💪
I just used that tub drain assembly. It works great if you use the 1-1/4 " brass tailpiece that comes with the kit. The assembly is actually meant to be installed underneath the tile. Shame the design had a built in flaw (tub filler penetrating a wet floor) that guaranteed future trouble.
This is so helpful! Do you have a sense when the next part will be released?
Thank you for posting these videos! You have saved me from certain failure!
I'm currently redoing my master bathroom with a tub in the shower. I'm using the brass tailpiece that inserts into the gasketed drain. The way I am sealing this penetration is by installing a 3 piece 2" shower drain upside down over/around the tub drain (it does fit). This way water would have to build up a few inches before it would be able to go over into the hole the tub tailpiece goes into. Will be using silicone caulk where intended on that unit to properly seal to the liner. Thoughts?
Thank you
Must be nice to go to work in shorts and crocs! 😆 I’m jealous.
I keep thinking I’ve seen it all. Then you put out a video like this. 😅😅😅
Great vid. Remember you more megalite and stabila please.
Any updates on this project? Im in the middle of doing a wet room with tub and shower in same tiled area. Trying to figure out best way to water proof it. Thanks for all the great content!!
If you waterproof the lower third of the walls, the water that gets into the upper 2/3 seeps down and gets stuck between the water proofing and the tar paper behind the float. Then it goes down further and behind the waterproofing you use on the pan. Goes directly onto the plywood.
True, but not likely, as there is usually very little water penetration in the vertical surfaces. Not sure how long the shower has been sitting unused, but the mud looks bone-dry. If he was concerned, he could cut a joint all the way around and tie back into the tar paper for extra piece of mind.
Jeez, Isaac. That one's something. You see some stuff! Lots and lots and lots of this stuff in the ATL! People just can't seem to wrap their minds around what's behind the tile, being so so important. It's hard to get people to pay for what they don't see. I see it too, decent tile work but the prep is an abomination.
That design was terrible indeed. I would love to see the outcome of your finished work, your idea sounds amazing.
I actually use flange drains (schluter) to install a free standing tub in a wet room, waterproof ties into it very well, and will never leak!!
So you use a flange shower drain??
@@rainmaker3700 yes I do, you just set it higher then your shower drain according to the size of the wet room
Been following you for a while and have learned quite alot however I've hit a snag, I have a customer that wants to keep their shower glass door and fixed glass panel. How do I remove the fixed glass panel from the U channel holding it. It is siliconed into the track but I cut the screws holding the track to the tile. I need to remove the glass so I can re-hang the U channel with new screws. Any tips or recommendations. Maybe a video on this as I've not found any but found lots of people on reddit that have had the same situation.
Will you be running the plumbing in the exterior wall? Can't do that here in Colorado, but guessing it doesn't get cold enough in SF? Good luck!
Great video, we use 1/2” Trowel on almost all our work, as far as the spot bonding tile to the wall for leveling what is the problem with doing that? It s just a vertical wall and nothing is there to cause an issue to me. By no means I am saying this is the correct way to install tile
Will the tile you are saving with the spot bonding not cause potential mold by holding water back behind the tile or not so much?
can do two flange drains, 1 of them underneath the tub, the other one just the way you usually do.
The simplest solution for the tub drain is to use a standard shower pan or Flofx/Schuter flange, and just dump the waste line into it.
This is pretty much the standard method in Sweden
@TileCoach I am in the process of DIYing my own walk in shower and I am considering using the RapidSet Non-Sag Sealant to bond my 2" overlaps on my schluter membrane instead of using thinset. I would rather make my shower waterproof, instead of water resistant, and was wondering if you have used sealant instead of thinset on actual shower installs. Thanks!
I'm doing my own walkin shower too. I've looked at waterproofing but decided there were too many areas to screw up. This is my first time doing this though.
No hate just pointing this out. 6:53 “Almost every installation that is bad that I tear out has red guard” you got videos of you going back to failed installs that involve a different type of waterproofing membrane multiple times… redguard is great IF installed properly and the prep work has been done properly.
My comment is not related to this video & its actually more a question. Do you have any videos where you touch on mounting handheld shower head with sliding pole mount in a kerdi shower/steam room? Its a simple mounting process consisting of 2 screws/Anchors at top of pole & 2 screw/anchors at bottom. Im not sure what the process would be penetrating the kerdi membrane to mount this without loosing the waterproofing. Do you have a forum or email where it would be better to contact you? Thanks for attention to this & for all the videos you put out that have been Very Helpful for me as a DIYer designing & Laying out my master bath renovation. Ive learned alot just watching you show us what Not to Do & hope your able to help me with this final piece to my bathroom renovatio Puzzle.!
Dan
Would it be okay to pour self leveling compound over old thinset on a concrete subfloor?
Tub; secondary thought? Re-engineered? Wowsa.
Forget the water proof. How you ever gonna clean around that tub. Looks like a mildew sweet spot
What pants are you using? I've been going through jeans like crazy lately.
How old is the shower. Just goes to show you, a lot of people do not know what they are doing.
Would love to see the fix of this…
i use goboard sealant to attatch my membrane to the flange of the tub drain.
Any chance you have the follow up video to show your solution for this bathtub/shower setup?
I don’t even want to know how much they paid for that job.
i wonder if the intention of spot bonding is to save money on the thinset....? its pretty whacky. Or else the guy only had a 1/4" notched trowel and found out it was too small for that large of tile then just decided to hack it up.
How did this project turn out? What's the fix?
It's No Bucket Friday!!
Some cast iron drains don’t require silicone. They grip the liner so tight and in such a way that they’re water tight. Wonder if SF requires cast iron in this application.
Does anyone know the brand / model of that wall tile??
I’ve always hated a standing tub inside shower. Looks like a mess waiting to happen coupled with bad install is game over 😅
I want to see how you waterproof the tub drain
In the EU this style is very common. There are just two drains. Same as how you would you in majority of you video’s. But the tub in my country The Netherlands usually has their on drain assembly so to say
How do I find what the solution was for the tub in shower?
Hey tile coach what’s your classified license ?
QUESTION from a non-plumber/tile person. If the room itself is already water tight and ready for a shower, when they add a bath tub like that, why bother having it connected to the drain at all? Can't they just install the stopper and ignore the piping? That would allow it to just drain into the already finished water tight shower area..... or am I totally missing something (or likely, a few things)
oh, lol, 3min in, and I see that is exactly what they did. Now I guess I'll get to hear the answer to the rest of my question. =)
Black stuff may be merkrete waterproofing membrane…I used to use it quite a bit 8-10 years ago until the fabric waterproofing systems hit here.
With youtube and other ways, lack of experience isn't a great excuse anymore. Its moreso a willingness to figure out the right way to do it.
It’s been 2 months, where is the follow up video
I’m a tile contractor in sf. Wondering how that shower pan passed inspection in sf
I was Wondering the same thing and the plumbing { maybe no permit}
Area where tub sits is suppose to be flat and plumbed separate from shower pan .
Please elaborate how all the failures you've encountered had Red gaurd?
Didn't even bother to back butter the tiles. It's always weird to see setters get some of the larger things right like the float and just completely blow the basics like wrong trowel size and no back buttering.
Especially when they mitered the tiles in some places.
I love back butter
I have a ?: how do you waterproof a tub drain in a wet room shower?
I was thinking about a wet room, now im happy with my boring shower😂
Hangon if the whole floor is designed to drain water. How the hell did they seal the tub faucet base?
4 minutes in and I am wondering what on earth possessed to them to go to the extent of digging up and laying the drain pipe.. and then just not connecting it. They could have build up a small ledge on one end to support the bath and make it level. Instead, they siliconed around like a kiddy’s putty project. Shocking 😮
well whats the problem
Looks like they used shower pan glue on the layer you removed from the vinyl pan
Side note- for some reason I can never spell vinyl correctly , I don't know why but it's a mental road block
I've saw a corner toilet and pedestal sink in a shower this spring. Who does this.
The reason behind Redgard is a fail for most project is because it looks user friendly and DIY folks think they can waterproof anything and don’t do it properly anyways. - Redgard is inexpensive and on the shelf for anyone to buy. Therefore… it seems more fail but in reality… it’s the installer that fails not the Redgard
Insurance claim pretty much total redue
Dude we need a workout routine
why would some one even attempt to spot bond ?
Hey sounds like your coming here! I’d want to donate my time. I’m redoing an entire bathroom and foundation. I’d love to help locals just to get an opinion on what I’m doing though I think it’s going well.
Hope you brought your cheap tools.
What is there to hold contractors responsible for clear incompetence and poor worksmanship? Seems like the customers are always out of luck and faced to deal with numerous contractors to resolve this. There should be some type of organization that oversees this and offer some kind of warranty that is actually enforceable or your license gets revoked. Customers having to jump through loopholes to get a contractor to honor their warranty is a ton of hassle and back-and-forth that ends up going nowhere. Get these bad contractors outta here....
Issac
When will part 2 of this video be released?
Wouldn't you just have the tub drain into the floor and then the shower drain? You would just need to make sure the floor is not level and thay the tub drains slowly
I don't understand how someone can install the shower drain properly but fail on the tub. WTF. Plus I can't deal with basic tile installation errors. Spot bond on surface mount tiles is a travesty. Someone needs a boot to the behind.
Put another water bottle behind the wall plz.
it is ICKY STICKY
Pine trees dont explode. It was engineered
Does that calling to the Bay Area smell like money? 💰💰💰
If they used the Schluter system they would have had no leaks and given the customer a warranty on the waterproofing to protect the home owner and installer. The old method was great if done right but no warranty on the products you use. Wake up folks if there not using the Schluter system there not providing service or quality products just tile work.
Hmm...I think I would have made the bottom plane of the tub sit level at the same height as the low point, then built the slope around the tub so it sat recessed below the tile and then join the plumbing under subfloor so the tub had its own drain. It would look better to see a sloping tile against the side of the tub rather than a gap between the tub and the floor.
Lose the tub, I’d say if it was mine.
SF - where all the money still can't buy you a good bathroom.