2017 Chevy Silverado HD 2500 Takes on the Super Ike Gauntlet World's Toughest Towing Test
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20 years ago, you would have shit yourself seeing a small block pull that much weight up a mountain
ledzeppelin27 You are absolutely correct, the 6.0 gm motor walked all over Ford's triton V10 in EVERY comparison test...loaded and unloaded.
Bunz21 True now days, but I was replying to a comment in reference to the early years of the 6.0 gm motor.
that surprise has been there for 50. I drive both today..a 2016 gmc and a 96 with a 5 speed.. 305. I'd rather put a king pin on my 96. I am the "welder steel guy" for family vehicles.. I guess i do have some cheating involved, but I digress.
ledzeppelin27, as if any small block powered anything would even consider hauling a 13,500 lb loaded trailer up that mountain! LOL
In this video, cruising at 5300rpm lol
remember when 80s-90s iron motors were red lining at 4300rpm
So this towed more than the Ram 2500 6.4L Hemi, 3 minutes quicker, with less power, and 4x4 equipped.
6.0 is an insane engine that doesn’t get nearly enough respect or reputation for what it does. It’s just as reliable as the Chevy 350 and makes more power. Much more power.
Love the 6.0, wonder how much the gooseneck affects it. Wanting to get one with gooseneck option myself reg cab tho.
bob john go ahead. I tote with a 6.0. Pull cattle trailers. Pulling bout 15-20k with it. It does great
i towed 16500 pounds from houton to tulsa.
with my 03 2500hd with 6.0 great engine trans temps got a little high but it made it same and sound.
@@offgridtx3043 wow. How long did it take? How often have you towed heavy cross country like that with a 6.0
One of the best engines ever made! GM sure is good at building a tough small block V8, and the 6.0 is no exception.
I Definitely agree. 6.0 ls is king
6.0s are badass in the 99-07 GM trucks but in the 14-19 HD trucks it seems just a little small we had an 18 4 door long bed 6.0 and it didn’t tow very well compared to our 06 Diesel
@@jamescrain2270 how do? Did you let the rpms run up to 5k? It needs to be at high rpm compared to a diesel
@@dennisreynolds6915 yes it was always around 5K rpm’s when shifting it was just not very powerful when pullin* our camper or our 100HP tractor, ended up trading it for a 2017 Diesel exactly like it
that 6.0 is that man
You know what this is a great test! Many of us will not even come close the the grade and elevation you put these trucks through. Keep up the great work TFL.
A modern 8.1 would be awesome. Had several and they never quit, except when going by a gas station!
If they put a 50 gallon gas tank in one. I'd get one!
The gas saves you 10k dollars when purchasing this truck and if you're towing less than 14k and not doing it for a job every day it is great. This motor will last forever. I've towed an 11k fifth wheel about 1-2 weekends a month all over for a year now with this gasser. Love this truck. If you're driving these extreme inclines, at altitude, with the max towing weight every day, or just have the excess cash, you might want the diesel.
+RhinoAg Thanks for the feedback!
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We have a 2005 2500HD with this engine pull about 10k. She is still going strong today.
what does a 6.0 truck get out of a full tank of gas. How many miles?
4estfloor
All I care about is I average 13.9 mpg when not towing in my Chevy 2500HD 6.0L. The F-250 6.2L averages 13.2 mpg. And a Ram 2500 5.7L averages up to 14 mpg.
4estfloor My 2016 reg cab two wheel drive 2500hd get 10.2 pulling an 18ft trailer with a zero turn mower, walk behind mower, two trimmers, two gas cans, and two hand held blowers. It only has 1667 miles on the clock. Only gets driven for work. I was hoping for 12 to 14 mpgs.
Man, I love how the Vortec engines sound! They have that nice, smooth, deep growl where some of the competitor's engines have a harsh, raspy note that I just think is obnoxious and gives me a headache.
"I hope this thing doesn't stop." As it beats the 6.4 shemi ram by three minutes.
I did alot of research before picking up my 2016 2500HD with the tow package. I haven't towed anything yet but so far love the truck
Makes me miss my 6.0L truck. It was a tank, used, abused and it came back for more
Awesome video guys, looking forward to the tests of the other two work trucks! 👍
Thanks guys I watched so many of your videos made my decision when it came down to my needs seeing I service my local area flat mostly And seeing I could if I needed to climb I saved so much money and went with the 2018 6.0 2500 she performed awesome today didn’t even have to push her hard with a full load 👍
i have and 08 2500 HD 4x4 with the gas 6.0 and 6L90 trans have no problems pulling a 10500lb RV behind it. pulled thru North Carolina,Tennessee and Kentucky and stayed at Highway speeds most of the uphill grades, fuel economy not that great avg 6.to 7 mpg but no problems now have 203,000 with no engine or trans problems. has been an awesome truck. upgrading RV to 44 ft and 16,500lb which will be getting the Duramax and Allison combo.
Boys, I've been watching all these videos, and I figured out I want a Hybrid Truck. Yep, that's right: an F250 frame/body, GM 6.0L engine, Aisin transmission, Dana locking differential (big one), then throw on whatever the best shocks, brakes, etc. made. I buy. Oh, and a bunch of CHROME, Andre!
Really good series, real world truck testing!
This was a good honest reviews guys, appreciate it. Well, I liked your opinion Andre of the Double Cab version over a Crew Cab. I found the Quad Cab and Double Cab to be my size. Temporary passengers never seem to complain either and I get a longer box. So far, I also love my 2020 6.6L gas engine 2500HD and I’m sure I will be fine with the power of the 6.6 and not regret buying a diesel which would take me +7 years of driving to even out the cost difference.
That sound when it shifts is awesome. The new 5.3 is the same way.
This may be an odd request but have you ever performed the Ike Gauntlet with E-85 in the flex fuel vehicles? In my 2017 Silverado with the 5.3L I get a significant power increase however my MPG's do drop.
I have an 03 Chevy 2500 HD with a 6.0L that has over 250,000 miles on it and it still tows and runs great . The 6.0L is a very good motor.
I have a 1999 Chevy 2500 6.0 4x4 and it pulls great also.196,000 miles
Thank you for doing tests with a truck that a real person would get.
GM, please bring back the Big-Block. That, with modern technologies and better transmission, this truck would've eaten up this test.
Franz well gm isn't but Ford is with their own big-block the new 7.0l v8 it going to be a power house.
Franz Hell yea bring back the Vortec 8100
+Bunz21 I've been reading that Ford's new engine might be part of the modular family. If that's the case, why can't GM build a V8 using the Gen V small-block? They were making aluminum 7.0L engines, and 7.4L engines with CGI in the LS family, so why not make something 7.0+ liters in displacement but using a CGI version of the Gen V engine small- block? Big-blocks would be awesome, but I understand the cost of having two different blocks.
It's all marketing my friend. All of the truck companies spend millions a year on marketing companies to figure out where the best money possible will be made. If they find that one day there's a hole in the market for a 7.0+ liter gas engine, that's what they'll put in the trucks! Until then we can only dream
8.1L vortec with 8 speed auto, 450hp, 500 ft-lbs, with a 4.10 rear end still. would wipe out the diesel market
my 2013 grade shifting works great! Thought i have no other experience with something like that. I brake for a few seconds and it will downshift and hold that speed down hills. Great feature
Can't wait to see more testing of the new 6.6. It has alot to live up to
Shoulda kept the 6.0 too tho
For all of you who were not around in the 60's+ this same configuration you were buying same displacement v8's and in line six cylinders with carburetors. Tow that kind of weight even with a diesel and there is a certain speeds you never crest unloaded. I love that truck. My parents have a 95' f250 with a 351w and all the numbers are similar but they were doing 22mph same load in AZ at 1300ft in elevation. Nice!!!
Why do these guys not like chrome on trucks? I think it looks great on grilles, bumpers & wheels.
They whippersnappers, that's why. Real men love chrome.
i literally clicked on this because i saw the bigtex trailer, freaking love em
I think it would be cool to see an under hood shot of the engine during the test to see if the exhaust manifolds are glowing.
whippersnapper02 no camera needed, I assure you they are glowing bright!
Can we get max towing on the rear hitch I'd love to start seeing those videos
Own this exact truck love it, tune, exhaust and aftermarket intake and MAF. She's over 400 horse eaay
imssgmiller which tune did you go with and how does it tow now?
Nice GMT400 Towing the U-haul Trailer
Hello tfl you should do a test with the trucks in Manuel mode
Our company buys these trucks. Works great for landscaping and snow removal.
How about including obd2 graph of the uphill climb so we can see what's really going on with the engine?
I just bought a 2000 Silverado 2500 6.0 gasser with 173k miles. Man I love this truck. It feels like im driving a tank. It's a long bed so I can put whole sheets of plywood and close the tailgate. I had 12 hardipanels loaded and it only squat like half an inch. The extra cab is roomy I can put all my tools in the back even my compressor. From now on im sticking to cheby 3/4 ton trucks and vans. When my truck dies I'll get a newer 2500hd gas. I used to have a 2013 Tacoma double cab lb but found it was next to useless for construction.
great review
Thanks
i have a c4500 chevy in a motorhome with a 8.1 litre gas and it is awesome, all the power i need for a 33 foot super c motorhome chevy needs this engine back for these trucks. i got 8 mpg coming back from gatlinburg to indiana. i drove up these mountains with the cruise control on and maintained reasonable speed. i love it.
This is great information. I have noticed on newer trucks, even with a 6 speed transmission, the first to second and second to third gear shifts have way too much space between them. for towing they should make the ratios closer together, but then make the last couple gears spaced wide for empty cruising. Do you know why they do this? I have a 2016 F150 and that's my only thing I would change is the first three gears are very long and set up to keep the truck under about 2,000 rpm. Doesn't seem like fuel economy in an HD truck should be to the detriment of good towing.
Can you do a 2500 gas with a manual? Or any option with a manual?
Have y'all matrixed the data anywhere? I would love to see it.
Love the chrome.
Little IKE flashback... bc it's Saturday and nothing is better
I'm pretty surprised that you guys just brushed off the fact that at the end of the run you were floored, it was refusing to downshift and was going under 30mph....that seems pretty important...
Almost seems false to me.
It wasn't floored, if it was it would have downshifted
Do you guys ensure you are comparing trucks with the same final drive ratio? For instance, a Chevy 2500HD 6.0 / 3.73 will pull differently than a Chevy 2500HD 6.0 / 4.10. Do you factor or take into account the different ratios? Would a Chevy 2500HD 6.0 / 4.10 perform the same as a F250 6.2 / 3.73?
I would love to see how a 2017 Ford Super Duty with the 6.2L gas engine does on that Super Ike Gauntlet. Get it loaded similar to that Chevy for apples to apples comparison.
You guys maxed out my 2016 F150 5.0 with over 9,000lbs so Chevy is not alone on max outs.
Could you guys do a review on the Nissan nv 3500 sd passenger van? I have one and I really wonder the capabilities of it in gold mine hill and towing. Please respond so I know you guys saw this post. Oh and by the way the 3500 has a payload of 4000lbs and a row rating of 9500lbs.
Love the way my 6.4 Hemi Power Wagon pulls my 10,000 lbs R.V. with three race quads .The real highlight is towing off road in soft dune sand. Air down and lock it up. Goes everywhere.
Finally doing the gas versions of the heavy duty trucks!!
So how long do you think that truck could maintain that load? Would it let go over a long distance?
+The Fast Lane Truck The real question is when are they gonna test the new ram 6.4 hemi with the 8 speed long overdue!!
this is one impressive truck gm, keep it up!
Bunz21 the comment was my opinion
CAMARO_KYLE but the transmission sucks
*Heavy Metal* yes i know bit the comment WAS IN *MY* OPINION
I know it is your opinion, but yeah the transmission is not impressive. GM, Shame on you!
Why not the 6.2L in the HD's for the gas option????
Are you going to do a Ike gauntlet on a ram and Ford gas engines.
What was the gear ratio 3.73 or 4.10
I have a 2003 Silverado 2500HD 4x4 with the 6.0l and it has over 410,000 km on the odo. I pull big heavy trailers all over the province of BC and neither the engine nor transmission has ever needed a repair to any internal part. I've serviced the transmission exactly once and I drive this truck hard. A local autowrecker has a dozen 6.0l engines for sale cheap because they say they rarely sell one as the engines simply do not die. The 6.0l may be the best and most reliable engine that GM has ever produced.
Wish you could get the 6.0 in the half ton trucks. Good reliable engine with a lot of low end torque. That, a 6 speed, a 3.73 ratio, and you'd have a stout 1500.
I agree with you however the 6.0 doesn't win any races with fuel economy
you could back in the day. Look up "Chevrolet 1500HD"
Back in the day it was called the VortecMax, 6.0 and the beefed up trans in the 1500
The Bridge is a formula, and uses several variables, such as kingpin to the center of the rear axle group, spread within an axle group, the number of axle groups. It isn't calculated based on measuring the load itself but on how it affects the overall truck and trailer. Kent is wrong is saying this load has a "very big bridge".
Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but the 6.0 doesn't have the ability to switch off cylinders between 8 and 4.
friends just got a 2017 sierra Denali hd 3500 and dang
Why does gm have the 6.2 if they are still using the 6.0?
Please do the 98 mile MPG test loop in the 2500 Silverado WT. I would like to know what the highway MPGs might be. I am interested in this truck being my next purchase.
I just bought a 2018 Chevy 2500hd LT 4x4 double cab. I get 15 to 15.5mpg back and forth to work religiously. And around town not much stop and go at 45mph I'll get around 17 to 18mpg. That big front end kills the highway miles. But my recent road trip down to valley here in Arizona I got 19mpg once I hit Phoenix that's at 150 miles one way. But mostly down hill. On the way back up I got 14.5 on the gas up hill. Average would put me at 16.7ish mpg. It's does alot Better then I thought it would.
What is that all over the engine compartment in a brand new truck? looks like paint, mud mabey?
Mud. They took it offroad a couple weeks back
So 13,500 trailer weight, how much do the water totes weigh each?
holy crap 44k is the cheapest HD I remember seeing you test.
Do this engine come the AFM/DFM gas feature ?
I just bought 2016 of this truck with 81k kms for landscaping property maintenance and snow plowing. I hope she holds up well.
What happened to the Ram 6.4 gauntlet pull that was having the trailer sway problems?
+Virgel Boyd We are editing videos as fast as possible. The Ram video will publish next week.
The Fast Lane Truck I noticed this pull was faster than the last 6.0 Ike gauntlet review back for the 2015 model year. Is this do to the truck being a dbl cab compared to crew. How does the ram compare since it got destroyed last time. At least a full min behind.
Y’all are saying it’s a work truck. That meaning it’s a WT? Looks awesome with the LTZ wheels. We run a crew cab wt with the 6.0. The 2017 is a little more sluggish than the 2012 it replaced. We still have the 2012 and it’s still running strong with 220k on it. Stock they’re all a little on the weak side but after all it isn’t the flagship power plant but with a tune it really wakes up. The new WTs are surprisingly comfortable and ride great.
Andre have you lost weight? Good job!
How can you be max out with two water toads???
Can you do a video on the base work ram 2500??
+93214919321491 That video is coming next week.
In 2017 ram did a great job💯😎👊🏻🇱🇷I have a 2017 Dodge Ram express 1500 blacked out 4wheel drive and I love It and it tow's fast i pulled a dump trailer full of tree logs and it did a great job 💯I was shocked 💯
Do the empty MPG loop with this truck! My 8.1 gas, with a 4:10, and a 5 speed Allison trans got 7-8 MPG on flat highway going 70 mph.
You sir have never had the pleasure of driving a 496 cubic inch big block lol a gas engine with diesel engine power numbers
Hey I have a 06 Chevy Silverado 3500 with a 8.1 and a 6 speed Allison. Empty on the highway it gets 12mpg.. towing my tractor on the trailer. At about 11000lbs being towed. Gets 7mpg
I got a 2004 Chevy 3500 crew cab 8.1 (496ci) 410 rear end . 11 mpg Hwy. it pulls a heavy built 24ft gooseneck trailer 14 bales of 4x5 round roll of hay weighing 1200 lbs a peace almost 17,000 lbs of hay plus trailer weight about 8,000 lbs that is 25,000 lbs and will get 6 mpg.
Got one in the spring almost 10000 miles lease return same truck with carpet for $34600 I'd say that's pretty good
What happened to the 8.0?
pretty good test for this chevy, first off though the power brakes running off the power steering pump has been around at least since 94, my 2500 suburban with the 454 had it. anyway, i think that transmission gear ratio is just bad in these trucks. my work van is a 2012 chevy 3500 express with the same motor ( i believe) loaded down with all our crap it came in at around 9500 pounds, it is always bogging down between gears or it is running to the redline just like in this video, granted not 5500 rpm like this one. i will always only own chevy trucks, but they really need to do something different with these. i have had a 2000 3500 gas 454 and currently have a 2001 3500 lb7 diesel dually and neither of these would of had the bogging down issues that this truck had, and thats with the 4 speed in the gas and 5 in the diesel. i have even towed my 1988 26 foot trailer over that same route on i70 and it never acted like this truck did.
Boy that thing takes a beating. My plan is to put one in my 89 c1500. Should be a nice performance increase over the 350 TBI and have better MPG too.
Back when I special ordered my new Super Duty, the 6.0L Power Stroke people had a lot of problems with thier trucks, and the 6.4L Power Stroke people had it even worse. Also, the new 6.7L Power Stroke was having turbo and def problems. So, I told myself, for the 5 times I tow heavy a year, the 6.2L gas will work just fine. Plus, it will save me a boat load of money. I bought reliability over power.
Yeah, my brother bought a new 6.4L in '08, it was a Lemon Law Buyback truck because Ford couldn't keep a 6.4L alive more than 4 months at a time in the thing. If Ford still had the 7.3L, or a 5.9L Cummins, I would have paid for the upsell price for a diesel.
Happy Gilmore The 6.2 is known for junk oil pumps and water pumps that break apart and throw the fan into the radiator.
According to the forums and the Ford mechanics that I've taked to, the 6.2L has been a very reliable engine for most people.
I would like to see the gas HD trucks compared more closely with half tons. I think the diesel is the way to go if towing heavy, but I think a lot of weekenders are towing weights that are right in between 1/2 and 3/4s. Do you buy a half ton that is better for day to day and stress it more for towing or do you buy a 3/4 gas that isn't as good for commuting but is better suited for towing? How do the gas HDs tow closer to the 6-9k lb range?
Buy the Hd and a small 4 cylinder car for commuting.
Yes
I know this is an older video. I watched it because I have a 2018 2500hd that I tow a small travel trailer with it and am thinking of upgrading to a larger 5th wheel rv. Something in the 30 foot range. Wanted to see how it did the Ike gauntlet fully loaded. Fast Lane truck does a great towing test with these trucks. Yea I thought about a diesel but I live in the east and only tow the rv 8 to 10 times a year. Didn't seem worth all the extra bucks for the diesel.
How has your 2018 2500hd been performing? Looking at a '17 hd gas for a 9,000 lb, 29ft travel trailer and wanted your opinion. I think it'd be a great option for me but curious about experience.
@@stevenjh4689 I've been towing a 8000 gvw 26' travel trailer. It has worked great for that purpose.
I like the chrome. It makes the truck look more expensive than the black body panels usually on working trucks. Why don't you guys like chrome on the trucks?
I like chrome, I grew up with base dull work trucks and appreciate shiny stuff
I think most of the people who own these trucks like chrome. I think it's a working class thing. My work truck a 2017 Kenworth has chrome for days and all the other guys at work compliment it all the time
I don't like the chrome look I like the blacked out look its more low profile
I'm a Mopar guy but honestly for that weight, grade, and altitude once they are up there a ways, that's not bad really for a NA gas V8 that's original dates back to over a decade ago. It's obviously not a close-ratio 6-speed seeing how many RPM's were lost dropping gears -- what was the final drive ratio on that truck? (I missed it if they said it) Gearing is noticeably closer on new 8-spd and 10-spd trannies. 6-speeds will suffice in an occasional tow vehicle (especially at that price). They still make the old 4-spds look like childs' play.
for a hill and altitude like this without a turbo, yes an 8 speed would be much better. rear end on almost all GM 6.0 is 4.10:1
Hello TFL Truck. Please test the 2017 Ford F250 6.2L Gas as well. Thanks.
We hope to do this very soon!
Please do so with the 4.30 gears, gentlemen. Thanks!
4.30 gears please, max capacity
did they mention the gross weight on this test?
Just a little confused how much can this truck tow ?
What are the maximum specs on this engine and set up and how much were you towing?
6l80e?
I missed it, is that the 6 speed or the 8 speed transmission? Got the 6 in my 1500 and it's definitely its weak point.
It's the 6-speed.
A simple custom tune, CAI, throttle body spacer and some 4.56 gears on and you're set!
how about some mpg loops with the hd trucks chevy, ford, and dodge with the gas engines towing and not towing. Its not always about the diesels
Is that 13,400 with weight of truck included or not?
Try one of the first gen 2500hd with 6.0 and 4L80e bet it beats that
The 6.0's specs don't quiet stack up to the Ford 6.2 or Ram 6.4 but unlike those two motors the GM motor will still be running in 10 years. Diesels are awesome for rich guys and heavy hauling but the reliability and maintenance problems you encounter with the modern diesels make the gas trucks a very viable option for guys like me that never tow anything but want the looks of a 3/4 ton.
Wait till you have to buy a new diesel enge also
houstoncowdog Put the damn Vortec 6200 and Allison 1000
George GMC Sierra Denali apparently the 6.2 was designed as a car engine and may not be as durable under load. I'm just saying that the 6.0 and the 5.3 engines have been proven to be basically indestructible. I used to work for a company that beat the tar out of 6.0s in 2500 vans for literally over 300k and when they would sell them they were still running strong.
Can't speak to much for ford but I have had both Chevy and dodge v8s last well over 200k will say tho the most reliable truck I ever had was a 04 ram hemi! Truck never quit!
By the "has 345k miles on it" comment, I'd guessing you've got a "slightly older" that maybe doesn't ride as nice as the newer ones, but I'm shopping around for my first truck so I wanted to confirm and see if you had any other feedback to share (especially if it would apply to a newer year-model)? I'm seriously considering a Diesel Dually so I can go all the way on a 5th wheel and never worry that I can't get somewhere because I went cheap on the truck, but I also don't want to spend $75k to get what I want OR go cheap when a bit more would have really helped.
Anyone else with helpful advice/facts, I'll all ears. I have family that works for GM so I'll be hung if I buy anything else (on top of NOT getting the GM family price I get otherwise), but I really want tech/features I don't see in the Chevy and I like the style of Ford and Dodge more. To boot, the Dodge mega-cab would be HUGE for us if I do end up hauling around the fmaily (2 adults, 3 kids) and have to live in the truck for days while driving because we will be able to keep SO much more accessible (food, changes of clothes, entertainment, blankets for naps, etc..).
Said another way, the goal is a truck I can use to travel the family with, while pulling a 5th wheel (with everything we'll be living with). This will also be my daily vehicle when not traveling and I'm a project guy so this truck will be busy and likely end up pulling other (lighter) loads regulalry.
Add a 4.56 axle and a custom tune to change shift points.
The Ten speed should help avoid those massive rev drops. If its able to handle the torque.
Or a different axle ratio that moves a gear/speed combination to optimum revs on this hill.
Andre got what he wanted. 2020 Silverado 2500 is coming with the 6.6 gas engine
I think Saddle road (daniel k. Inouye highway in hawaii is the ultimate test for towing for any truck. that road is VERY steep for 4 x as long as the ike both up and down the mountain, and its all highway.
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I promise you that pedal was floored constantly. don't get me wrong I'm a duramax guy and I know that truck was pushed to its limit the whole time