Breaking The Myth of Russian “Human Wave” Attacks
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- čas přidán 26. 02. 2024
- Debunking military tactics used on the battlefield of Ukraine. To do so, I will also do a historical comparison by looking into the Korean War and the Iran-Iraq War.
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We had a joke in the USSR. In different variations, but something like this:
A NYT journalist brings an article to the editor. "The Soviet gymnast won gold at the World Championships."
Editor: "Are you a fool? - rewrite it normally."
Journalist "The Soviet gymnast won the World Championship.. But at what cost?"
I remember the Zampolit officers travelling with the gymnasts. KGB, to ensure they do not defect. 😂
😂😂😂👏👏👏 hilarious
That's VERY funny!😂
@@yxmichaelxyyxmichaelxy3074 confirm. My grandfather is a KGB officer. and he told me that once he shot a football team with an anti-aircraft gun for moving to half of the opponent's field.
@@jlucmonag5712
Why did the Soviet Red Army hockey team exist? Every player was a member of the GRU. The Soviets could not believe the West were so stupid as to allow Soviet recon of their cities to happen. They were aghast at such American stupidity.
When russia takes a town that was fortified for a decade, it's called "insignificant." When ukraine captured a few houses in their offensive, it was a critical success
Its getting boring to be honest🤣🤣🤣🤣
U nailed it. 😅😅😅
Western propaganda 😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Anyone remember how the lying western mass-media reported the going trough of 5 Ukrainian soldiers behind the first dragon teeths during the greatest probing attack as if the whole Ukrainian army swept trough Russia's first defensive line?
Great times 😂
Western mercenaries , who fought for Ukraine and lived to talk about it, don't mention these "human waves" at all. They only talk about the horrors of being constantly pounded on with artillery, drones and aviation bombs.(which is basically how 90% of soldiers on both side die or get injured).
So many of you with issues understanding English. I mean, not surprising tbh.
@@joelee3716 How many words do you know in Russian?
@@vknfriendly all of them
Lol, nah they do.
@@vknfriendly все
Bakhmut falls: "meatwave"
Avdiivka falls: "but at what cost!"
Rabotino: " A majestic victory, worthy of its price!!!"
2024 Russia lost 30.000 men for an area as big as Leipzig. Sucess looks diffrent.
@@Till_Eulenspiegelwhat is the zize leipzig
@@Till_Eulenspiegel The BBC revealed that Russia lost 50,000 soldiers during the entire war. Commentators on CZcams: Russia loses 30 thousand every day)))))
@@user-je6bt4nt4w 297 km²
As one Russia soldier said “ Let them win the information war, we will win the real war “
As the Spaniards DID in 1589.
And when they win it's gonna be emotional damage 😂
in fact, this is quite pathetic from the outside, I was in Russia and watched these online confrontations, analyzed the propaganda, Russia and Ukraine actually have a lot in common in propaganda
When I also participated in these senseless conflicts, I didn’t really wonder why I turned a blind eye to what my country was doing, but watched the opponent’s country
Fortunately, I stopped participating in this shame, where people on both sides are just looking for a way to insult the opponent “ha, your army lost so many soldiers” is very pointless, stupidity
Remember that according to Zelensky Ukraine has 800k soldiers across the frontline, but needs half a million more after they have "only" lost 30k.
😂😂😂😂😂
What a wierd ukronazi math)
The Russians just have mastered the art of non-lethal combat, truly the most moral army, American police need to learn from the Russians lol.
war is like this. if you claim to lose minimal men, but need 500k more men, it means 2 things. Either you lost 500k and not 30k or you are preparing for a counter offensive. its not the 2nd one for ukraine
😂😂😂😂 spot on!!!
It doesn't add up!
"It's not propaganda when WE do it."
Great video.
Yeah
It’s strange when Europeans say that Russians are losers, because they lost so many soldiers in 2 years, while America lost only 4,000 people in Iraq in 8 years. They don't take into account the fact that:
1.The Iraqis did not have as much military equipment and weapons.
2. Almost a million military personnel did not fight against the Americans with constant reinforcements and several waves of mobilization.
3.The Iraqis did not have satellite intelligence from other countries.
4.The most developed countries in the world did not help the Iraqis.
5.The Iraqis did not have drones or modern radio equipment.
6.The Iraqis did not speak the language of the Americans and could not pass themselves off as them.
7.The Iraqis did not leave for America and did not destroy military installations within the country.
8.The Iraqis did not have such strong propaganda.
9.The terrain of Iraq is deserted, the terrain of Ukraine is more difficult due to large forests in which it is convenient to hide. Houses in Iraq are basically low, houses in Ukraine are multi-story, making it easy to hide in them.
10. Ukraine has a lot of artillery, Iraq did not have artillery in such quantity and variety.
That's not all, I'm too lazy to go further down the list.
Russia is fighting against Ukraine, which has all this.
It is wrong that Europeans, who fight only with weak countries, tell Russia that it is weak.
Google translator
yeah also how can they advance without being spotted by a drone when attacks can succeed or fail because of drones
Tambahan
11. sebelum di invasi USA,irak sudah lelah berperang dengan Iran selama 8 tahun.
12.Irak bukan produsen persenjataan militer
13.Irak di sanksi&embargo puluhan tahun sebelum di invasi😅
US usually fights naked savages in rags, Russians fight their equals. Hence the losses. Ukraine soldiers have the same armanents and equipment, not beach slippers and ww2 bazookas.
so the Americans of Iraq fought with bearded men from the village, and not with pro soldiers
to add that Ukraine has a lot of NATO equipment and volunteers from NATO. In fact, Russia is at war not only with Ukraine, but also with many other states. Well, no one condemned the United States for aggression and did not apply sanctions and ban all American
Dehumanizing the enemy is part of war. Like calling the Russians orcs... sigh.
Yea but the people calling them that are DORKS.
That's a huge red flag in every war. If someone has to dehumanize his opponent it means the other arguments aren't better than going full ad hominem.
In other words: if ukraine would truly just defend itself it would be enough. If you can prove without doubt that's what happened you have the high ground no matter if your opponent is a human or orc. But they can't. There is actually prove that's not what happened. So they have to resort to name calling and stupid propaganda. People talking on social media just like people who voted the nsdap into power would have talked online... I even saw wwii fascist propaganda from nafo accounts lmao
It's happy time in Mordor🫠
Ukraine Bandera fascists Nazi meat waves
I don't find being called an Orc offensive. I use to play as one on World of Warcraft for years.
Normandy D-Day was a human wave attack but noone ever calls it a human wave attack.
not really....please read the definitions given by Alex. The allied forces were no way unprotected and they had air superiority and massive fire power from the navy ships. Yes it was a great offensive with massive troops involved, but those troops didn't use meat wave tactics.
Normandy D-Day was a successful landing except for a minor portion of it. It then was overdramatized in movies etc. The read drama was than after the landing when the allied forces stuck in Normandy for more than 2 months.
@@kamikaze2009they kinda did, the artillery fire was not very accurate especially the air support the majority of the b-17s did not hit their targets and the US soldiers were forced to charge up the beach, the other beaches saw German soldiers surrender or not much resistance
@@kamikaze2009well the surviving German machine gunner will say you are a fool! The only reason he surrendered was because he ran out of bullets to kill the allied troops and he had to play dead in order not to be dummy executed by the US troop that he just mowed down.
@@jameschalkwig787You seem to forget that the Germans diverted resources to the western front for the Ardennes offensive but never tried that with the Soviets. The Americans had the same capacity as the Soviets, it’s just D-Day was the creating of the foothold into Europe.
1. The message, with reference to the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, said that during the military conflict, 1,126,652 military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine did not survive and went missing.
2. “Meat assaults,” as we call them, are organized by the Ukrainians, they catch men on the street at gunpoint, take them to the front, there they go on the assault and all die on the same day
Finally someone pointed it out well .
Even us Poles know very well that Ukraine lost over 1million if no more soldiers and they are unable to get more and they knew this so they opened up ILDU for foreign fighters because lack of man power now approximately more than 2 million fit Ukraine men escaped the war to EU countries. The problem still lies with the fact that Russia can reproduce more of everything anf I think nato and eu is well aware of this and they are chosing to prepare for the defeat of Ukraine and war with Russia within the next 5 years .
I recently witnessed a "human meat-wave" assault. I was at a Krogers Supermarket, when 3, 300 lb. women came waddling down the aisle pushing carts filled with potato chips and pop. The snack department was almost completely devastated. Oh, the horror. I could almost hear their arteries clogging. It was sickening. There was no getting around them. I was forced to retreat to the produce department where I took cover next to the spinach, since I knew they would never attack there.
Battle of Wallmart😂 Typical american meat waves
Как ты выжил?..😂
the Kroger ambush
Thank you man, you made my day 😂😂😂
czcams.com/users/shorts0_2x1oum_Gg - this is real human wave attack in Ukraine :)
NAFO bots are storming this comment section, you could say these are meat wave attacks.
retarted wave attacks
Are these nafo types even relevant? Looks like they have isolated themselves
What does NAFO stand for?
@@nekvia7228 North Atlantic Fellas Organization: some left wing ish psyop NATO simps who spam terrible anti Russian memes.
dude, you wrote yourself 2 comments alrady, and those are the only ones that I see
Забавный факт: если показать комментарии под вашим роликом украинцу, то он заявит, что они все - русские боты.
These meat grinder waves are about as real as ghost of Kiev
It's a whole narrative set for people to cope. Basically it goes like this: "Russia loses wave after wave of soldiers to take a strategically insignificant position like Bakhmut or Avidiivka!"... They turn massive Ukrainian defeats into victories with this narrative. Goes to show people can believe in anything, really.
I liked his beard
Fr, never heard from that pilot anything since 2022. Neither getting shutdown nor shutting down russians
😂
I wanted to write the same, so it must be true :D
Zelensky said they have 880k army and 31k dead. Then,why do they need 500k more soldiers?
quite ironic. media is accusing russia of using the very tactic that ukraine has been using!
The good question is 880 k where they are ?
probably because they have soo much weapon in their storage that it getting full, so they need more soldier to hold the weapon for them
(edit: just in case if you don't know. my comment is a joke about the lack of weapon on ukraine side)
Because Ukraine so far have lost 560.000 dead and wounded together
@@Drako_Strike880k probably includes all the supporting staff and everyone ever in the military. Including those guys dragging men off the streets to conscripted
Meat wave is Ukrainian method from start.
Thats why Ukraine have 16 waves of mobilization
And still loosing. Best illustration that meat waves dont work.
Yes, Russia had only one wave of 300k civilian people and countless prisoners. And still losing.
@@daniles pfff, haha, sure sure)))
@@daniles Ah i love SBU propaganda lmao
But if Russia "loosing" why Ukraine didnt liberate even 0.5% of territory ?! Lmao
Yep that's why Ukraine have 700k KIA
no?
И зачем я это вообще смотрю? я на работу опаздываю
😂😂😂
Наконец-то рекомендации Ютуба что-то годное дают
Зачем я это комментирую😂
Ахаха,есть такое
Whatever Ukraine accuses Russia of, you can be sure that Ukraine is doing it.
It’s their CIA training, only thing west does is projecting, they say Russian and Chinese economies are collapsing while theirs are etc. etc. always and in every case
They're clearly projecting lmao.
Western culture is all about lying and projecting
such a bs claim. Russia has a great history of lying, why are so much fools now believing them. We can see the human waves. They send 5-10bmps a day and they get destroyed. Next day the same. We can see that on Video. And if ukraine would do the same, we would see russian Military bloggers use such videos as propaganda. So no, ukraine doenst do such a bs. They fight freely, the russians because they have to.
And Israel is doing 10 times more evil things.
"Our enemies place no value on human life" is a propaganda tactic.
Unless we're talking about Ukraine in Bahmut and Wagner with the prisoners, in that case both are quite true.
@@THEROOT1111Ah yes “it’s obvious propaganda against MY side” But as soon as you use it against them its all of sudden “truth”🤡
Both Ukraine and Russia engage in serious propaganda, that’s why I don’t care. “Meat wave” assault is just called standard military tactics, it’s called “war.”
It's projection. Most of the things they tell us Russia are doing Ukraine themselves are doing
@@THEROOT1111that's still not meat waves
About time someone talked about this. Have been frustrated about this for years.
Russian/Soviet small squad tactics have been on par with the west as far back as WW2. If anything, the Red army always had a much heavier emphasis on artillery, over infantry. But they recognized the importance of combined arms since the 30s. Flexible defense, deep penetrating assault with encirclement, overwhelming artillery is how the Soviets won WW2, not human waves. Any "human waves" that occurred were a result of poor coordination and bad intelligence, i.e. blunders caused by fog of war.
So. Imagine you see a group of 20 Russian troops stroll down an open road, about 2 km long, only to get intercepted by 155mm artillery halfway through.
Now imagine that happening twice a day for 3 days.
Do you call that a meatwave?
@@Deathadder90 No. "Meat waves" don't stroll.
@@Deathadder90 Did you even watch the video buddy?
@@Yura135 So, they walked down a road towards enemy positions but aren't meat waves despite not using any form of mechanised protection whatsoever, all because they didn't get close enough to start assaulting?
Yet their commanders organised 5 more platoons to do the exact same thing. But they aren't meatwaves...
What is funny is, that copeplanation feels extra hollow now we see Russians drive open unarmoured Chinese golfkarts towards Ukrainian positions and actually get mowed down with machinegun fire on approach.
"It's just not large enough in size, there for it is not a meatwave attack. If it doesn't look exactly like Enemy at the gates, I won't accept the evidence of my eyes"
@@Deathadder90 Do you have a video of the Russians "walking down a road" and then commanders organizing "5 more platoons"? Do you have video of them getting "mowed down with machine gun fire on approach"?
I have seen none of these things in Ukraine. I haven't even seen a single platoon moving forward, never mind 5 of them. The highest number I have ever seen was a squad, maybe a bit more. Never seen squad machine gun fire cause casualties, only AKs at very short range, or suppressive fire to pin down the enemy.
Infantry squad tactics involve moving infantry forward on foot. Sometimes the artillery and recon don't do their job and people die. But the point isn't to "overwhelm the machine gunner". The point is to do a push reconnaissance: move forward to take positions or force the enemy to reveal their strong points. This is followed by retreat and more artillery, or bringing in air/artillery/armor assets to deal with the strong points.
A "human wave" hasn't happened since WW1, it's all a myth perpetuated to reinforce racist stereotypes, as it's physically impossible to take a position armed with even a singe machine gun. Everyone who went to a military academy knows this.
There is a good video made by the marine corps demonstrating what a properly set up machine gun team with a belt fed machine gun can do: mow down thousands of enemy troops at 300 yards within seconds for hours at a time. A "human wave" of 10 thousand men can not take a single machine gun.
On the positive side, they are at least referring to the enemy as “human”.
‘Glass half full’ situation.
its actually meatwave sooo...
During the Soviet-Finnish War, all Finnish newspapers were published daily with victorious reports about the extermination of thousands of Russian soldiers, hundreds of their tanks, and dozens of aircraft. About the help of the whole world in the war against the USSR. And then suddenly, one morning, all the newspapers came out with the headline, in huge letters in a black frame, - FINLAND CAPITULATES.
Yet for some reason, Finns now tend to think that they won that war. Yeah, last I checked, it was Finland who had to concede territories, not USSR.
Then again, in a world where freaking Israel sent help and combat instructors to the regime that glorifies people that were slaughtering Jews by the score in WW2, this type of thought actually shouldn't be a surprise.
@@ObsidianKaizer I'm from Finland and I do consider the winter war as a phyrric victory, because Finland achieved their was goal. Remaining independent. But saying that Soviets also achieved part of their war aims. Push the border away from Leningrad, and they largely dictated the peace terms. My point is that things don't have to be so black and white.
Still, it was a pretty embarrassing war for the Soviet Union. And a great loss for the Finnish communists and the puppet republic the soviets tried to create there.
@@ObsidianKaizer Ironically enough, if that campaign had been a complete victory for the USSR, huge chunk of Karelia including the city of Viborg, would now be part of Finnland since 1991. So in the end that kind of semi-victory turned out to be more sustainable for Russia in the long run...
@@juliankraus1011And the government there before wasn't a puppet state, classical liberalism
Real human wave attacks occures in Russian Kherson Region In Krynki, wave after wave ukies send their troops to the death for the sole purpose of making an informational occasion for propaganda, recently they staged a new action and sent a special detachment SSO on three boats, one boat with fighters was completely smashed, all but one fighter was killed, he was captured. Krynki is a real meat grinder for ukies forces
Boat involved, not meat wave.
Magyar sends his regards.
Yeah Ukraine is literally the one using meat waves. Their greatest counter offensive was literally just infantry waves because Russian mines stopped the armor and Russia has air and artillery supremacy. Ironic
😂😂Russians with shovels, washing machines, rusty rifles beat NATO, and the USA or NATO with the most modern best weapons, with billions of dollars, lost all wars against shepherds with hunting rifles from Vietnam, Korea, Laos, Somalia, Serbia, Afghanistan.... strange times😂😂
tactical retreats by genius Zaza-lensky, just wait until Steiner counterattacks with Anti-Shovel Tractors and Ghost of Avdiivka...
Best comment here
Russians shoot 20.000 shells per day.
Ukraine has run out of shells .
Absolutely no reason to send a single man to attack, before flattening the place.
Ukraine on the other hand confirmed that they lost only 31K soldiers so far since the start of war - which means that Ukraine does a new Mobilization after every 2000 soldiers they lose.
Nothing they claim makes any sense.
Serbia doesn't belong that group, though.
Thank you for the mention. With everything going on in the world, people have closed their hearts and eyes to our struggle while the terrorists steal our land, Holy Churches, monasteries, relics and history. Космет је ❤ Србије!🇷🇸☦️
My personal opinion: such articles are spread to perform “damage control” in media when something didn’t went well on a battlefield.
They won’t show you evidence of massive attacks by Russian infantry, because after these attacks the opponents, as a rule, do not survive, nor do their cameras XD
This man about to learn about drone footage.
The Western media propaganda is so bad, that an episode of the A-team is more realistic.
always been on kindergarden level
I ain't getting on no plane, fool!
And the worst part is that a lot of people buy their bs.
If it's stupid but it works, it isn't stupid.
Wait are you saying the A-team wasn't a documentary?
ISW: Russians can't exploit victory over avdiivka and needs rest
Russia: captures 4 more towns
Isw?
@@shivanshna7618 institute of study of war
ISW: Institute of Shovels and Washing machines 😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂@@anonymousvoiceoftruth7498
@@anonymousvoiceoftruth7498nice
I had someone try to tell me that Ukraine's latest "trading land for time" strategy is a winning one....
These people are reaching cult levels of coping.
Ukraine, really doesn’t have time on their side, if anything, with a lot of new elections coming up in 2024, time seems to be against them.
Trading land for time till there's no more land left
@@janeprice13 Zelinski will not leave his throne in may 24, he'll hold on to it.
tactical retreats by genius Zaza-lensky, just wait until Steiner counterattacks...
Ukraine is winning on tiktok
I remember watching that Danish guy (Anders puck Nielsen) resolve the “mistery” of the Nordstream pipeline using only his “big brain”. He came to the conclusion Russia did it just by deduction. No evidence analysis or provided whatsoever.
Who are you talking about exactly?
@@yellowtunes2756 Anders Puck Nielsen.
@@yellowtunes2756Anders Puck Nielsen.
😂 Great idea to destroy a billion dollar pipeline almost beyond repair, when the Russians could just switch off the taps.
@@yellowtunes2756 and errs puk neelsen ( Had to change the spelling, YT seems to keep deleting the comment)
мне, как русскому, изначально было понятно, что никаких "мясных атак" нет, потому что даже с точки зрения выгоды это провальная тактика, потому что закидывая фронт мясом ты теряешь очень много личного состава, который вообще-то должен контролировать территории, которые были захвачены, не говоря уже про то, что на данный момент в зоне боевых действий сейчас находится примерно 300 тысяч русских солдат еще с волны частичной мобилизации, управляя столь ограниченным контингентом закидывать фронт "мясом" слишком расточительно и наша тактика предполагает наименьшие потери как со стороны наших военнослужащих, так и со стороны жителей украины, разве что украинских солдат и правда стараемся как можно больше размолоть приняв оборонительное положение.
@woopymotions6714 пропаганда. хотят выставить россию фашистами и безумцами, которые не считаются с потерями и хотят захватить киев любой ценой)
@woopymotions6714 Такой бред могут писать только люди, которые войну знают по американским фильмам и кол оф дьюти. Ни один действующий офицер воюющей армии никогда ни о каких мясных атаках заявлять не будет, если конечно это не гос пропаганда.
Russia retreated from Kherson because they knew they could not defend it. Ukraine fought to the last Ukrainian in the hopeless defences of Bakhmut and Avdiivka.
That's the art of war.
Russian Military actually understands what massive losses are so they try to minimize losses to both military and civilians.
They could defend it and taken kiev. But the civilian death toll would've been horrendous, this wouldn't look good today. Baghdad Bob returns....
Yea but Every time Ukraine is losing a city it costs them political legitimacy
Russian also avoided fighting in urban area with civilians as how they have seen during Mariupol and Kiev battle.
The only point of downplaying your enemy is
prepping your own public to become meat waves
Kinda like this video
Zelensky's government said that if Western governments can't give them more shells, they will have to waste more soldiers. Meat waves is what they practice
Exactly 🤣
absolutely they want the public to show interest and then they will start sending them for meat wave
To be fair, they call it meat waves because assaulting mechanized units cannot put up a fight against drones and not only that but they keep assaulting again and again using the same roads and tactics which is the definition of insanity.
those news articles are the embodiment of "my source is that I made it the fuck up."
Isn’t the term “human wave” an unintended code word for “we are loosing the war”.
It's pure cope
"losing", but yeah, it is the same cope as "it's not strategically important".
Always was
"Human wave" translates to "They sent somewhere between 5-10 guys and we lost the position"
@@ReikerForgeIn ww1 and ww2, Human Wave would mean a "Mass Mobilization Doctrine". Essentially throwing millions of conscripts, or even 'trained' men into fortified positions. Ending in the deaths of millions each offensive(Eastern Front, Soviet Casualty Statistics).
This has become the best channel for exposing the truth about war in Ukraine. Keep it up.
Pro Russian channel
@@b4nterontilt245is he wrong though?
@@b4nterontilt245doesn’t change the fact that he is one of the most objective channels that tries to present facts
@@b4nterontilt245cope he isn’t wrong
@b4nterontilt245 hes literally never expressed support for the Russian government. Are you that daft that you think discussing Ukraines failures makes him a supporter of the Russians?
ukrain news is very true, you just need to undertand it reversed
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You know when they make movies about this, they're gonna add the Russian human waves despite them not happening.
Just look at wwII movies about the holocaust
History is always written by the victors.
There is same myth about Zhukov. Meanwhile his letters and orders are declassified and anyone interested can read how he literally writes: "Due to recent information about some local commanders taking actions risking soldiers I order every commander from the lowest to highest level to prioritize keeping soldiers safe and using more shells"
Well, Let`s just say he had the worst cards for keeping the soldiers alive.
"Oh yeah, and we are literally racing the other generals at Stalin's behest, so speed above all else."
Some czech make research about it and found that percentualy have Zhukovo smaler loses in humans wave attack as other russian general by 10-20%.
@@Bynk333 if I recall it right it was Rokossovsky with most % loses
@@Bynk333 The keyword here is "Czech", and we all know well enough what kind of info they're selling (Enemy at the Gates BS).
When your enemy attack you is called "human wave" if you attack it's called a "counter attack"
And if you are knocked out and driven out of your positions, then call it "saving soldiers" or "luring the enemy to unfavorable positions"
Ага... когда унацы яростно обороняют позиции, но у них этго не получается и гибнут тысячами убегают - это тактическое отступление. А если войска России покидают, даже не пытаясь проводить оборону, на более выгодные позиции (для примера Херсон) - то это у них, - русские позорно бегут. Украинская власть и Запада осознанно выбрали политику и действия направленные на уничтожение украинцев, ради того, что просто не любят Россию и хотят ей зоть как-то навредить. Это преступно и эти политики запада и украины должны быть осуждены и казнены как Садам Хусейн.
Oh, man, why your statement is so B A S E D 😂❤
@@zabzaba1683так Пригожин прямым текстом сказал, что русские обосрались под Киевом ю. Под Херсоном было по другому, захватывали, проводили референдум, баннеры «Херсон с РФ навсегда» ставили, чтобы через 3 месяца свалить?
@@zabzaba1683 right, like your Kremlin owned Media doesn't espouse BS, keep dreaming Ivan.
Bro you opened my eyes to the media lies about meat waves
Who would of thought NATO would be defeated by Shovels, Washing Machines, and Meat Waves 😂😂
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New meme to add to list
@antar.....NATO could easily handle the fearsome Shovels , Washing machine divisions . But then the Russians troops were fitted out with socks and Nato could not handle that . I read that in the MSM so it must be true or they would not have written it would they ?
😂 Russia can't handle Ukraine to handle NATO 😂
@@abboudashkar3804 наверное ты должен кое что почитать про войну на истощение. Чем дольше идёт эта война , тем меньше у тебя денег на банковской карте. 😂
Saying Russia is using human wave tactics is like calling Abrams a game changer.
It is a gamechanger. It makes the Ukrainian Army loose even quicker...
Thats a New one
You know why it's a game changer? Because it shows how pathetic nato is every time.
Morozov angered Moscow by writing that Russian generals were wastefully sacrificing their men.
Btw, what is going on with those game-changing A-50s? Lol
@@AC35K no it doesn’t. All it is, is another speed bump.
Спасибо за правду. К сожалению - опорочить своего противника, это обычная тактика во время боевых действий.
I swear me and you are of the same mind brother I was just explaining the Chinese tactics in Korea to my coworkers the other day. That's why I love your channel you know history so you can perfectly put current events into there historical context I'd love to sit down and have a conversation some day and exchange views and compare notes. Keep up the good work.
Russian soldier just walking: HUMAN WAVE ATTACK
UKR soldier just walking: wow so tactical very strategic
Russian soldier shitting:Omg look he is dying!
Ukrainian soldier shitting:Very tactical indeed!
Ukrainian strategic running-counteroffensive towards Poland borders
@@calm694 С вашими темпами это случится лет через 50. Это надо еще чтобы Трамп столько прожил, обеспечивая ваши последние "стратегические" успехи.
@@VelikiyChuchhe Напоминаю что американцы кинули своих "Союзников" в Афганистане прямо перед вторжением, до этого они кинули Вьетнам, и воткнули нож в спину Хуссейну, у США и без Трампа хорошо выходит кидать своих "Друзей" на произвол судьбы как только администрации США это становится не выгодно. Молится и надееться на США это скользкая дорожка
I bet you wear a bdu in mom's basment too🤡
Western media is the definition of good daily comedy basis
I really like following David Axe from Forbes for my daily dose of comedy. Nobody else can write with as much smug ignorance while pretending to be an expert.
More likely as the definition of pathetic and stupid liers.
start use real photo in perfil first....russian army is like you a bot....never will win nothing only disgrace
David Axe should take some clowning lessons from Zelensky 🤣
Dude the little clips edited in are always in point. The South Park Warcraft clip was perfect.
Three Russians walk into a bar...
Ukrainian bartender - 'It's a Meat Wave!'
It's the media not ukraine
And the Russians say let's get out of here this is sausage party
Three Ukrainians walk into a bar, one of them is a traitor.
@@Itoyokofan Traitor to what?
@@ravenkorr8167 doesn't matter
Ironically, westerner most proud WW2 moment, D Day, IS a human wave attack. 😂😂
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That's what I just commented Bro. D-Day was one of the most known human wave attack
Or Ukraine river crossing to Krinky wich is the Ukrainians D day. it's funny nobody is mentioning this one.
Sometimes it has to be done to win. Massively brutal. Stalingrad had two mass human waves in most horrific battle ever. Neither Hitler nor Stalin gave a monkeys about how many of their soldiers died.
To be fair, demographics back then were such that countries could afford the occasional human wave attack.
Ukrainians actually did use human waves attacks in krynki. They sent wave of men after wave only to get shelled and replaced with another one.
An excellent history of 'human waves' and their rhetorical use. Once more, great work! Keep it up!
"human waves" is usually thrown around when someone has to justify a defeat at the hands of some enemy they consider genetically inferior.
It's like blaming lag for dying in cod
Sometimes it is ideologically inferior
Yet, casualty estimates, such as from Bakhmut, suggest there is no contradiction
..and yes, similar actions practiced by agressor and by defending side might have different names
Which is just cope for their own inferiority. 🤣
When Rommel used infiltration tactic in Carporeto (Matajur) it is named tactical masterpiece, when Russians or Chinese do the same it is called human wave attack.
what is your point? the soviets and Chinese used human wave tactics there is no denying that
Yes, and? 🗿
I mean, the West is historically known for sympathizing Nazis
so you don't believe in 16k killed Russians during the battle for Avdiivka, for example? or ~8.7 million Soviet soldiers killed in WWII?
@@GuscioRosso same tactic!
I enjoy your videos, you clearly do your homework and you’re objective when talking about both sides. I really appreciate you trying to give a clearer picture of what’s happening!
That's it, I've decided.
My new band name - 'Meatwave'.
When you de-value and de-humanize your enemy, you only make their victory upon you more painful and humiliating.
That's similar to what Azov veterans said in an interview, when asked a question which portrayed Russian attacks as a completely incompetent force.
@@definitelyfrank9341That is logical... they keep "humiliating" the Russian forces, yet they keep losing manpower, equipment and cities to them... If you call your enemy a weakling and you lose to that weakling, what does that say about you?
@@doejoe-es9bg My god this comments section is pathetic.
@@secretagentcat you know you're part of the comment section now right?
@@secretagentcatWoosh.
I'm so sick of being lied to by the federal government and it's corporate servants. Thank you for some real journalism.
Bro, it's the opposite, the federal gov is a servant of the corporates from the military complex to the health industry. They act as if they work for you, but they work for who pay more otherwise, no money for campaign and media coverage to win the next election.
You are almost right, you are just confusing the ones who corrupt with the ones who are being corrupted.
Well said.
So you need a pro russian propagandist to tell you what to think? lmfao
well said Oliver. This is so sad with these horrible liers@@OliverFlinn
Lmao you special@@OliverFlinn
Is there a Telegram channel showing the Russian perspective? I'd like to see be able to see both sides instead of just Ukraines
Rybar
Повёрнутые на Z войне, Rybar, Старше Эдды, Kotsnews
Intel Slava Z, rybar, Alex Parker Returns, Месть доброй воли, ТРОЙКА.
If you want an unbiased russian perspective, look for channel of 1-50k subscribers
ColonelCassad
DD Geopolitics, its in english
finally some body busted this western myth of human waves
1:20 i remember that clown released video where he "explained" how israel in gaza is self defence but russia in ukraine is genocide. A truly special kind of person
That man is a walking, talking red flag of unrelenting Soviet, err, Western propaganda.
Both are self defense
Israel no@@yarnickgoovaerts
Russia gaining more and more momentum in a snowball effect, meanwhile Nafo redditors getting more and more hooked on that premium Afghan copium.
No no no no its not momenum its tactical retreats by genius Zaza-lensky, just wait until Steiner counterattacks...
Snowball effect 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
The pro Nazi bloggers are getting desperate and truly unhinged
Courtesy of USA
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I guess D-day would be considered a human wave event.
human wave attacks is one of USA's favourite old time tactics back in normandy 1944.....
they even made hollywood movies out of it.
Dude, the quality of your content put to shame the propaganda of the media
His is propaganda too.
Edit: this is coming from a fan of his CZcams page, he has purposely left out some major blows the Russians took, not saying Ukraine has the upper edge. But there is a clear biased in my personal opinion.
@@ApostolosFilmsso your saying that Ukraine is winning while their losing land?? Where did common sense go plus that isn’t even the main point of the video
@@random-rh1tm where did I say they were winning? Considering what they are against the Ukrainians have done a decent job of holding the Russians off despite losses of land. Have you watched all of his videos on this current conflict?
Dude ask your government why censured new are in democracy.It is for me as German unacceptable.No chance for bullshit excuse...so called Putin propaganda.Carlson interview was attacked instead to gratitude such professional jurnalist.And many other things.Your hate and rage is insine.In Servia there is all news from.every side.If shame that is our definitive supporting MOST Corrupted regime in Ukraina .For me German Ukrains values are not my values.Amin.F.... u with this narrative.Reality shows that we western are liers.
@@ApostolosFilms yes and when you say that one side has a advantage it means their winning but Ukraine doesn’t have a advantage and it isn’t winning
Calling something a "human wave" attack has always been a way to denigrate an opponent and absolve yourself from a defeat.
We have video evidence though...
human wave attacks do happen but i do agree that the term is used far too loosely these days. the Japanese did so and so did the soviets in ww2. what do you think soviet shock armies or penal battalions where used for?..mass infantry attacks.. i.e. human wave
Unprotected armored columns are motorized ducks.
@@BRANFED Soviet wave attacks are massively exaggerated. The myth started in 1941 when German soldiers witnessed Soviet infantry advancing without support and getting mowed down. What looked like a human wave attack was actually just desperately bad coordination. 'Human wave' was never the tactic. They were just blunders. Of course the Nazis promoted this myth to fit their narrative. Anybody who still promotes this myth should be reminded that they're just parroting Nazi propaganda.
@@BRANFED ww2 was fought by tens of millions and Germans also couldn't support large portion of their infantry with tanks and artillery, so by that logic they also used human wave attacks
I like how almost every warfare reviewer turns into a guy who's seen a war only in Call of Duty when it comes to Russian successful outcomes in battle
This goes back all the way to the US Civil War. For generations the prevailing myth about Grant's broad-front offensive into the South was that he just ran his men carelessly into Southern guns trading lives for territory. The truth is, while Grant did make some blunders (such as Cold Harbor), he simply had the manpower to attack more objectives in more places while also being able to outnumber his opponent. His reputation as a butcher is wholly unwarranted because just because he kept with the prevailing military doctrines of the time, which resulted in higher casualties by their nature. Plus, he was on the offensive, which also by nature (usually) results in higher casualties.
My view about breaking the myth is that if it’s reported by someone with a British accent, then it’s 100% the time always a lie
There is not an accurate English translation to the Russian word of Maskorovka. It means many things, camouflage, concealment, disseption, planting false intelligence to trick the enemy, etc, etc. But I never thought that it could be so effective to the point where you can make the enemy believe their own lies. It's like the Germans after WW2, we only lost the war on the eastern front because of the bad weather, it was the leaders mistakes, they over ran us with their endless human waves blah blah blah. History repeats itself, no one ever wants to admit to being outfought by Russia and has to come up with an excuse to imply that the enemy was cheating somehow.
You are right. Even here in ex ussr states the notion that the soviet union used “human wave tactics” to win the war is still present. Propaganda is everywhere.
These are facts. Everyone always underestimates them. Their military record is fantastic. They beat the Swedes, Ottomans, Commonwealth, French, and would have rolled the British in the 19th century if they fought before 1880. They only took an L in WWI and that was due alot to an internal conflict.
Boris Schwanwitsch
Google this name. This is genius of maskirovka. Russian from Ukraine, helped to hide tanks from Germans. His tombstone also interesting.
Right, I had to edit this comment.
Wikipedia doesn't say anything about his work during WWII, but he shined best there. Look at his tombstone, just a wing of butterfly. But wait...
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Maskirovka! Not maskOrovka
Ukraine when Russia makes any advance: RUSSIA HAD 20000 casualty today.
I genuinely saw someone arguing that Russia has now taken over 800k casualties as dead only. While Ukraine has lost no more than 70k wounded and dead. They weren't being satirical, they weren't taking anything else. They just flat out believed that apparently Russia was throwing meat into the grinder for fun.
one week later: RUSSIA LOST 60 MILLION SOLDIERS AND 7 BILLION PLANES!!!! READ MORE!!!
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It's the repeating pattern I have seen lately on their side; micro-gaining while ignoring their foe's macro-gaining
just reading the commentary section of some german mainstream media channel or some german vlogger about the war, leaves you in disbelief. There must be millions still believing such BS@@lamezorlord
Great video and excellent clarification of the "human wave" term.
Congrats.
The Human wave offensive strategy is the age old adage of "Accuse your enemy of what you're doing." 18:00
Exactly.. Projection
Exactly.. Projection
No, YOU are using meat waves!
Interestingly, the D-day attack during WW2 fits in the "human wave attack" definition perfectly.
One could argue that since there was armor that stormed the beaches and there was support from the ships that it wasn’t a “human meat wave.” Although, by the way the veterans that serves there described it does make it sound like a human meat wave attack.
@@justaguy5384😂😂 doesn’t matter how you dance around it it’s a human wave attack by defenition
@@justaguy5384The presence of armor and artillery support did Disputing the facts the infantry being ordered to advance under machine gun fire into the enemy trenches,Use superior numbers to overwhelm the enemy...Sounds like a human wave to me
"Interestingly, the D-day attack during WW2 fits in the "human wave attack" definition perfectly."
Nah, it absolutely doesn't. Conducting an opposed amphibious landing really doesn't leave any room for tactical finesse. You have to get as much material and as many troops ashore as possible to establish a bridgehead and overwhelm the defense.
@@antred11hence meatwave attack? no commander want to do that unless they are forced too, unless they have better tactics
Great video as always!
Offensive squad based tactics are often confused with “human waves.” When are you are about to lose your position, it might seem like the enemy is coming like a wave😂.
"Human wave attack" is like saying "hacker" to someone who actually knows how to play the game.
Hurt feelings need to heal by making up excuses, thus- "human waves"
Facts. 😂
😂Most of the real meat wave attack was done by the British, Cavalry charge during the war of Crimea, battle of Somme, battle of Gallipoli... They said these to Russian and Chinese and Vietnamese because they can't imagine what is actual infantry tactic looks like
Found the rooskirooster gopnik farm.
I bet you wear a bdu in mom's basment too🤡
Dude, keep speaking the truth you are a genius.
Thank you for the support bro! 🙏
@@historylegendswill you ever do a video on Operation Storm
@@historylegendsSo it is more thze first and snd WW style. Soviet especially, like the numbers tell, the 'score' by german soldiers, the sometimes usual soviet soldiers running into battle without weapon and taking some by the fallen ones at the first lines.
When it was such a millions fallen spectacle.
Even the west did build on mass, cheap tanks, lost so much support ships.
Old battle styles were a mass sacifice spectacle in waves, with less soldiers versus midrange+ WW 1, 2 battles.
@@remypascal4872 It's only the first WW, no one used human waves during the WW2, unless there was no other choice. It's german defamation campaign along with russians havin 1 rifle for 3 men that movies propagated. It never happened, SU had surplass of rifles in WW2, more weapons than infantry.
@@historylegendsdon't you only take rubles? Well then again, with their shitty economy, it's probably go idea for US money.
Great analysis!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
spot on. thanks for your analysis
From what I have read and observed on CZcams. Russia was using Artillery and Aviation to soften up Ukraine Defense Lines then sending in troops or they were using classic Pincer Movements and Encirclements. There were no Human Wave Tactics used.
этот канал для слабых интеллектом
theyve used those since day1, just logistics was lagging and troop morale was low.
@@effexon Тебя там не было и надеюсь не будет, а я был,я наводчик артиллерийского орудия Мста-Б,наш расчет участвовал в штурме Мариуполя и Бахмута. Вы не очень умный,раз уж думаете что Россия использует "мясные волны". Всегда сначала идёт обработка артиллерией,авиацией и высокоточными ракетами по позициям и стратегическим целям. Только потом начинается штурм с помощью малых штурмовых отрядов отрядов и наша задача(артиллерии)уже является их поддержка. Мы обстреливаем тот сектор или объект, на который нам дадут наводку разведка или сами штурмовые отряды. Никакого массированного штурма солдатами НЕТ! ТОЛЬКО МАЛЫЕ ОТРЯДЫ С ПОДДЕРЖКОЙ ТЕХНИКИ И АРТИЛЛЕРИИ!
@@prapor6390привет
@@effexon troop morale was never low.
I agree with you. Human-wave attack is a term used to solicite an emotional response, not convey an accurate description. Arguing with someone who holds an emotional attachment to the term is a losing battle. You are executing a factual-wave attack against an impenetrable dome of cope. I wish you well.
you described everything very accurately.
He’s taking money from the Kremlin to spread disinformation….is what he’s doing
There were/are HUMAN WAVES doctrine in many armies of old doctrines/military schools. The whole historical battles were all HUMAN WAVES battles. Only in modern times these tactics are no more used. From Vikings to Romans to Turks and Polish Knights to Napoleonic wars and axe wars, to WW1 and WW2, Vietnam war, Korean...Yugoslav partisan and East Front battles - there were HUMAN WAVES fights... Only nowadays it sound too unrealistic and not clever att all, all sides in need to preserve expensive soldier teachings and equipment... The cost of equipment and uniform of modern 1 soldier is enormous. Nobody is ready to throw them to meat grinder.
And Russia launched wave attacks against Bakhmut and Avdiivka...why else have they lost 50,000 troops taking the latter alone?! Shoigu and Putin have the strategic ability of a pair of baboons.
N@zis used the same propaganda in WW2 - human wave attacks simply overwhelmed their positions. And they were excellent at battlefield photography/video and yet AFAIK there is ONE photo of a wave attack and it is at such a distance it is blurry and you can't make out individual soldiers. So yeah.... where do you think the Ukies learned their propaganda?
My father was an officer in the Korean war. HE was on White Horse hill. They were attacked by waves of soldiers. He called in a Time on Target ending the attack.
Грамотное выстраивание мысли с аргументами и с привлечением материальной части. Правда картошка всё равно не поймет, ведь картошка верит в то, во что ей хочется верить, а вовсе не в реальность. Если диарея испачкала ляжки твоего оппонента, то это омерзительный акт дефекации, а если это случилось с тобой, то это шоколадный фондю.
This video deserve some kind of award for the incredibly objective and intelectually honest analysys
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@@wisborninfo2310 Wow. Finally your mirror reflection works. Now you see what other see when looking at you. That's why you are laughing.
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@@AwesomeRepix Wow. Finally your mirror reflection works. Now you see what other see when looking at you. That's why you are laughing.
@@hk3339 🤣
When it's pretty clear Russia's slow progress is because they value soldiers. Been an artillery war the whole time.
"They value soldiers"😂😂
@@dominTom212не поверишь. В России не такое большое население, что бы разбрасываться людьми, за все два года войны, был всего один ограниченный призыв. Неужели странно, что если ты хочешь победить, то будешь разбрасываться людьми? Тем более по большей части это уже опытные ветераны. Люди это основной ресурс любого государства, и стоят они гораздо дороже снарядов, это как минимум рационально. А со снарядами и техникой проблем нет, говорю как человек работающий на оборонном предприятии. Так, что да, у нас ценят солдат.
@@dominTom212 have you been on the front?
@@dominTom212 over tactical shooter games i know about 100 russians. 3 of them have military carrier so they come and go. the rest sits at home or go to work in prime of their life and nobody is being forced to do anything
Russia values its soldiers? 300,000 of them disagree
That dude literally dont know what is modern war is.
Thank you for making this video
мясные штурмы перестали работать с появлением первого пулемета как показала первая мировая война!
My favourite was Volodymyr Zelenskyy stating this week that Ukraine lost only 31,000 troops in the whole war, but somehow still needs to mobilise 500,000 new troops? Right......
Yup, Ukraine is winning but they still KIDNAP anyone from 18-50 to go to the war. They are even considering bringing back all the men who left the country. But they are winning right?
By that logic russian losses must be well in the millions with even more still alive and pouring into the frontline every day. Because the only possible reason for extra troops in such a case is just because they just can not manage to reload the machine guns quickly enough to keep mowing the rising zombie waves. What can I say, if the ukrainian army itself truely believed in that then they would have already lost a long time ago.
@@KirillissimusТочно! Зеленский считает украинцев за дегенератов, они ведь не раз это доказывал ему.
@@KirillissimusObviously Putin is just a high level lich necromancer who can raise millions of undead soldiers everyday
You don't understand, Zelinsky is a great tactician, Ukraine will be in Moscow tomorrow, and in Vladivostok next week. This is 100% a certainty since Zelensky and Victoria Nuland both told me. 🤣🤣🤣
In one month Ukriane troops will invade Washington cause they stopped the money laundering scam.
funny how there is also no footage of Bucha massacre, even though every one and their dog has a cell phone cam (soldiers and civilians)
lot's of buildings have security cameras
drones are overhead
etc etc
There is, from the sat images. You are lying because drones where not there
@@Sander-cu4ns they can photoshop sattelite images like no problem, they can use AI to draw anything they want, so image in 2024 is not a proof.
@@Sander-cu4nsshow the satellite image? If not then fudge off.
@@Sander-cu4ns
Are you referring to the March 19th sat image by Maxar Technologies? Because that would imply the bodies were lying there for over 2 week which isn't consistent with their appearance.
British intelligence needed this so that there would be no negotiations.
this video blew up, congratulations History Legends!
Thanks for clarifying! Great job!
Before we had "Russia is using shovels", now have "Russia is using meat wave tactics"...lmao
Don't forget the Washing machine thing.
@@commanderiosifstalin4938Yes so many memes to troll the NAFOs.😂
@@commanderiosifstalin4938What was the washing machine thing?
@@iseeyou6422For the last 2 years, Western media have always talked about Russian soldiers running out of amuunition, shells and missiles, and they have nothing left to fight but shovels, and Russian misiles are using chips from kitchen stove and washing machine. Hence, whenever Ukrainian troops lose their battles and lose their NATO heavy weapons, people metion shovels and washing machines as Russian mighty weapons that can defeat Western weapons possessed by the Ukrainian armed forces.
@@commanderiosifstalin4938Oh yeah i heard the shovel thing but the washing machine one i didn't
...and the shovels. Don't forget about the shovels
Anti tank shovels are very effective in meat wave assaults.
Exactly
Объясните пожалуйста про лопаты ? Причем тут они?
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@@user-jt6tc2hs8jидиотские западные сми которые рассчитаны на дураков и невеж, твердят что Русская армия воюет с лопатами против Украины . Смешно
Wow, amazing job man! Thank you
Avdiivka assault, first week of November, 2023.
Anybody recall the Normandy “meat wave” attacks such as shown in “saving private Ryan” that we lionize and call bravery when we slaughtered our own men?
You don't understand, this is different (c).
As one who has served in the U.S. Army for 30 years, I appreciate your Chanel and commentary very much. Great job my friend!
I also appreciate your honest humor and humanity. Thanks for not referring to Russian soldiers as Orcs, they are brave men and soldiers the same as the rest of us.
😎👍
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Russians are great people as a whole. Shame they keep horrible people as their leaders.
In France we don't call them orcs but we nickname them Ivans
Exactly, the moment you start to dehumanize people it becomes something else. I can understand if occasionally during war, soldiers do it to numb themselves, which has often ended with war crimes never the less. But when it's used casually on the internet it's much more dangerous.
@@darthveaner3288 Come to Russia, and say me this in face)