Top 7 Skills People MISUNDERSTAND about Motorcycles
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CHAPTERS
0:00 Countersteering
1:56 Braking
3:47 Shifting
5:28 Sight
7:27 Speed
8:58 Posture
10:22 Riding in the Rain - Komedie
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Yammie: Keep your back straight.
Me, who's 6'2 on my 125 naked bike: 🦐
Yeah, reminds me of the brief period I owned a '91 GSX-R 250.
I'm 5'8, but that pocket rocket was obviously designed for the Japanese domestic market. Riding with a straight back was pretty much impossible.
There was a lot of weight put on the wrists as well. Above 60, the headwind would start to support the upper body, but at that point, you would also be at about 10K rpm because of the gearing and the 17K redline. Definitely not a bike for introverts...
6'4", mostly nakeds too. Riding an ADV bike was glorious, but even my current MT10SP? 🦐
when they told me about this at the MSF it confused the piss out of me but i was already doing it out of instinct because ive ridden bicycles for my entire life
Same 😂
i used to think the same until i remembered i counter steered going fast naturally and a plain old pedal bike when i was a kid
Why would it confuse you if you were already doing it?
you just think "initiate lean" and your body would do the counter steering without you even noticing
@@YTisDumbbecause they talk about it like it's some new concept unique to motorcycles
Countersteeting is is something momentary you do in order to lean your bike, and it’s such a small movement it’s barely noticeable when watching
Exactly. I think that's where some people fail to notice it, as countersteering doesn't trigger the turning by itself but induces a lean by unbalancing the bike. Said lean allows the wheel to fall into place and the actual turning happens.
But for all intents and purposes, you are always countersteering to get the bike to turn.
The harder you push the more the bike turns. Doing it on purpose really improves your riding.
@@scaramouchew when you say “harder” i cringe - imagine a newbie trying harder than last time to push on a countersteer… gentle is the way my friend.
@@lucascarracedo7421 absolutely, its something people do naturally also on bicycle, which is why i think that people who like going fast on bicycle will be excellent motorcycle riders.
@@itzikca haha i know any input has to be smooth but what i mean is when you try to evade like a potthole or whatever its better to use counter steering than using your body to steer the bike
I remember first hearing about counter steering thinking people were crazy. I turned and leaned my bike all the time with no problem. Turns out because I spent my life on 2 wheels, I was doing it all along instinctively.
Ok so I'm not crazy and I don't have to relearn how to steer anything with two wheels? LMAO thank god
Riding over 50 years and these videos still teach me. Thank you.
In germany emergency stop is mandatory exercise to get a licence, you need to go 50kph and press front and rear as hard as you can at the same time. Really gets rid of the fear of landing on your head. Would recommend everyone to do it 10-15 times.
I do an emergency brake at the start of every ride; it's the 3rd thing I teach to new riders as well. Absolutely critical skill.
I had to pass an emergency stop at the MSF course here in washington, they also checked what gear i was in after the stop, and if you weren’t in first you had to try again.
In Sweden the test is on 50 km/h at the end of the high speed maneuver track, and then a separate 70 km/h and 90 km/h braking test.
Yammie i got 24/25 on the written and 0 points on my practical at the MSF this weekend and its all because of you! lol
In Denmark, Counter-steering is taught not only for cornering, but as an Evasive maneuver! Smack the handlebar with your hand on the side you wish to lean towards.. This will as was Explained in the Video, force the front wheel to diviate from the Center of gravity and lean the bike hard! Very useful maneuver for avoiding critters like Peacocks and car-drivers!
Even though I've heard most of this a hundred times it's that "Keep watching YammyNoob" thing you've drilled into our heads through the years that keeps us old heads watching.
Interesting thing; I went in for a yoga class this morning and I noticed that my riding was super natural and effortless feeling afterwards compared to before. Relaxed really is the way.
Direct steerers are the flat earthers of the motorcycling world
fun fact, motorcycles ALWAYS counter-steer no matter what and slow speed does not change a damn thing. When your at a stop turning right try to take off with the bars turned to the left. The bike will force you to lean right and turn right even through your handle bars are pointing left...
Bike lean angle controls turning direction and tighness, steering controls lean angle. There is no other mechanic at play here...
@@m00sing If you want to make a sharp left turn from being completely stopped, lock your handle bars on the opposite direction aka right and try to accelerate. The bike will initially try to turn right due to the wheel being pointed right, however the bike will very quickly fall to the left and almost force your body/handlebars to turn left. Essentially you have to understand how a bike actually turns for it to make sense...
If you watch fortnine's video on having flat bike tires, you will see that the bike is unable to turn at all. This is because all turning comes from the fact that the center of the tire is a larger diameter than the edge of the tire. In other words when leaning, the tire is moving faster on the "outside" VS "inside". You can see this effect with tapered bottle caps rolling on a table. So the handle bars of a bike literally do nothing other than force your bike to lean left or right. The faster you go the more you can see this effect, which is why people say it doesn't exist at slow speeds, which is completely false.
Thinking you need to know about countersteering is a myth in itself, you always countersteer by instinct at any speed. You probably learned this when 5 years old on a bicycle. If you can't counter steer, you can't steer, period. If you can't steer you can't ride and keep the bike upright, period.
Counter steering is very easy for some to over think forsure. But some learned how to do it on a bicycle and never even knew it!
I think I just did it naturally. I never even thought about it until MSF but I was already doing it.
2:05 yep that was me, I never used the front break on my bike again so hearing that your primary breaking on a motorcycle had me terrified.
One thing that should be mentioned that track racing people would know well, the line you take through the corner determines where you'll naturally exit the corner. Turning in early will have you exiting tight on the inside and exiting late might take you into oncoming traffic or off the road. It can be hard for new riders to make that on the fly decision about the corner and even harder to adjust speed and angle mid way. Always ride within your abilities, last thing you want to do is run out of skill.
This is the first video that completely helped me understand counter steering (what exactly happens with the bike and why, not how to do it)
Just finished my Abate beginners course yesterday counter steering and looking through the turn were definitely some of the most useful things I learned. Looking forward to getting out on the road.
I just took my MSF course 2 weeks ago. Both days were in pouring rain. The instructors first thing they said was, " i promise you have more tractions than you think." I agree i am no longer nervous riding in the rain
Hahaha didn’t we take the same course?! Pouring rain and they say to me, a fresh rider that you won’t drop the bike slamming the break even if the road is wet! They were right!!!
Coming from a lot of performance and race driving in cars, I was shocked how much it matters where you look. We teach it in cars too, but I've done it enough to disconnect my hands from eyes a little bit. On a bike it's just fundamental and you can't really fight it.
true. Your not looking at the corner you're in, your looking where you need to be to hit the next corner exit. It's funny when someone askes how fast you went though the corner, but you only remember the gear and rpm.
I’m happy to hear the duel brake technique being talked about. Making a habit of using both will make you more confident in your stopping power
While dry weather driving the painted lines have less friction, so should be avoided when traction matters, but under wet conditions, the painted lines can be real death traps and should be avoided at all times, even when driving straight you can suddenly loose traction. Traversing them as straight on as possible, the shortest distance possible is very important on wet conditions. (The same goes for tramway and rai crossings.)
That exact same GSX-8R is at one of my local dealers and I've been eyeing it for a minute now. Same color and everything, wondering if this is my sign to go for it
Wanting it is your sign to go for it
Love the channel. Keep up the good work.
People overthink riding in the wet. Just reduce your inputs and increase your following distance by 30%, you're good to go. There is increased danger if somebody crosses at 90 degrees but normally it is overcast and your headlight stands out more, making you more visible. It really isn't a thing. Safe riding.
Know what? Being an “old-school” rider as I am, I still have moments in time that I will forget about my past experiences and have a little bit of self doubt. The point is that every time I get on two wheels I get a little bit nervous and I feel that’s normal
I can’t wait to ride this summer. But this counter steering just blew my mind and kinda has me scared just a little bit
Hey. This is gold. Well done.
Referring to Nr.5, Speed in Corners. I was taught that lowering speed is the most common way to drive. Imagine you take a corner in which is safe speed is around 40 at 70 mph you either have to decelerate or brake. But on you use your Front brake you might hit the floor pretty fast
Great video!!
Great job yam
Long levers don't inherently provide more leverage than short levers. It depends entirely on where you grip the lever. If you only use the index and middle fingers (like Yammie does in this video), the extra length of the lever provides nothing.
This is a great informative video.
Just baught a cbr600rr 2007 will start riding tomorrow when my gear arrives :) will be careful with no abs or tc on it
ABS is fantastic in an emergency as it really works but not having it just focuses the mind a bit more about your speed and distance from other vehicles.
After years of riding bikes with standard brakes, the company got a couple of Honda CB500's with ABS and they just felt the same as any other brake until someone came through a give way dead in front of me.
BRAKE...... tack-tack-tack-tack and the bike just stopped beautifully, no slide or skid as I'd expected.
As my old boss used to say.... Keep it between the hedges!
Vision is key and not just because you go where you look. Pay attention and be aware of your surroundings and constantly be on the look out for sides of vehicles AKA cars that might pull out in front of you or just not see you.
Plus you have to scan close for road conditions.
I’ve been riding for a few years now, and I still don’t really understand counter steering. I don’t think I ever do that, unless I’m doing it subconsciously
2 finger braking when stopping Yam? My practice is less fingers when I need to apply them lightly, like at higher speeds, but all four when I'm in a situation where stopping is a possibility.
I'm planning to buy my first motorbike in half a year or so, I was wondering if anyone has any tips on what type of bike I should get that is beginner friendly or what brand/model of bike? Like the appropriate cc, horsepower etc. I'm looking to get a naked bike or sport bike too
I’ve asked this several times but I am missing my right foot, should I install a thumb brake or just kick my heel off the peg to use the foot brake?
How u relax while maintaining a back that straight? Now i may be a quasimodo with scholiosis after doing to much dumb shit as a kid, paired with a couple of hours too many ib front of the computer 😂
Before i learn to ride, the word counter steering was confusing. After riding for 6 years now, counter steering is just a word to make people sound smart. When youre going at a decent speed, just hold the handle bar and lean the bike to where you wanna go. Thats it. A normal person will understand that without riding experience.
Something they use to make them sound smart, and confuse the crap out of people who overthink.
never knew that the sight would be the one causing my accident even tho it wasnt my fault they cross the lane without checking the mirrors 🤧 but now i got it so thanks just if i had watched ur video 3 days ago it would have saved me from my accident😩
I'm really loving these videos as of late. Stay up Yams.
I can’t believe you and others still need to make this type of video. If you ride, it’s natural. Not sure you can survive without it , no matter what u think your doing
Talking counter steering
I struggle with counter steering at highway speeds. I do it just fine below 55mph. As soon as I'm above 65 belive I HAVE TO slow down to like 55 to follow curves.😊
You just have to apply more force at the handlebar. Because physics. The more stable the bike is, the more force you have to apply to destabilize it.
Just keep at it. I was this way at the start and slowed WAY down to make turns. Ride your own ride and dont worry if you are a bit slow. Keep doing that until you get more and more comfortable. This will eventually lead to faster turns with greater lean angles. Another thing that can help is find some roads near you that are windy and ride them a lot. By learning the road over time you will start to "know" it. Once that happens, you can take the unknowns out of the equation and you can start doing them incrementally faster. Even finding one good curve that you can repeatedly run isa choice you can make. Basically, its just practice. Do it 10,000 times and you will be a pro.
the faster you are going the harder you have to push for counter steering
On the topic of sight it’s important to learn to trust on your peripheral vision.
Papa Yams, do you think you’ll be able to get your hands on an aprilia rs457 to review for us?
I think the issue with the whole "countersteering" topic is that most people explain it badly and therefore confuse new riders. I found this one also to be a bit inaccurate so allow me to add to it. One doesn't "turn left to go right". We need to differentiate between applying force to the handle bar and handlebar movement (turning).
For example: Pushing the handlebars on the left (if no other forces apply) turns the handlebars to the right. Doing this in a straight line makes the bike tilt to the left. So the handlebar only momentarily and very slightly turns to the right while the resulting left tilt immediately applies a force that turns the handlebars to the left again. Throughout the whole turn the rider has to push the bar on the left to keep the turn going and releasing the pressure make the bike reduce the tilt angle and go straight again. However, the handlebars are (of course) slightly turned to the left throughout the whole turn (how much depends on turning radius tilt of the bike and other aspects). What may seem unintuitive, is that the bike itself applies a force to the handlebar (or rather the front wheel) that makes the handelbar turn INTO the direction your turning. This force however (similar to the rider applying a force to initiate a turn) will immediately cause a force in the opposite direction, reducing tilt and straightening out the wheel if not countered by the rider. So in a turn what a rider really is doing is preventing the motorcycle from going straight, as that is what it does automatically.
Thankfully I understand counter steering now just need practice.
You mean "under-square". Over-square would be an example of the short-stroke, bigger bore inline-4's that rev to the moon.
I have a bike without ABS. The braking phase changes from those with ABS?
Riding in the rain without a face shield or a windshield sucks hard. Rain hitting you in the face can be painful
I dont know why but when i am about to break i always use front breaks even going downhill because i always forget rear break exist
What model is that white scrambler?
Countersteering works at any speed, that's essentially how the bike turns.
received the delivery of R.E. Shotgun today, my 7th bike in 3.5 years
You countersteer at every speed.
Anyone interested in meandering more about this and understanding how it works/doesn’t work. Veratasium did a video a couple years ago “ most people don’t understand how bicycles work”
Here's a question for you @Yammie Noob... How the hell do experienced Riders notice another rider when the other rider is driving a car? Today for example I was stuck in traffic, and there was an annoying Island next to me (it's to stop cars from just driving up the Flush Median) I heard a bike coming, and turned my wheels fairly sharp and pulled away from the Island to give him more room. He just did the thumbs up to say thankyou, but the Rider close behind did the "I'm holding my cigarette" wave. Did he see the nice warm but slightly uncomfortable jacket I was wearing? and further up the road, a Black Yamaha pulled up to the end of his driveway, Yes I looked at it, and slowed right down so he could pull out in front of me if he wanted to. but he too showed me he was holding his cigarette and went up the flush median. Once on the Motorway (which I refuse to try and ride on at this time of day, hence the car) I was passed by a few more Motorcyclists who also waved to me... What The F is happening? How do they know?
Big oversquare vtwins with long strokes? 🤔 Not sure that you meant that yammie.
My new motorcycle is a 310 gs and when i use the front brake kinda hard it pins the nose down and lifts the back alot....feels pretty weird ..im trying to get used to it ..but it def makes my butthole pucker
As a PC gamer with scoliosis, challenge accepted. I'm not gonna let those Harley riders out slouch me!
Idk about anyone else but I noticed the faster I go if I turn my head and look with a helmet the drag from it pulls me as the wind hits and I start to drift over idk just something I noticed
Hey I know this has nothing to do with the video but is a 250 cc dirt bike too powerful for a beginner dirt biker?
Im the opposite Im scared of the rear brake
I was the same way when I started 4 months ago. Front brake is more for higher speeds and rear brake for slower. Just remember rear brake firm to less firm. That way it doesn't fish tail. I'm still learning.
rear brake is very important when in an emergency and should always be considered when stopping. Sure you fronts do the majority of the work, but... the rear brake can help with 2 things. 1 it can help set and stabilize the front of the bike while preloading the front some. 2. it can improve the performance of the front brake as the weight has already started to compress the front shock (preloading it). The trick is to use is carefully and gently. A little rear brake helping the majority of front braking will dramatically decrease your stopping distance. Go to a parking lot and try it. Just dont lock it up... if you do release immediately and reapply gently. You certainly dont want to hard brake with jerky action on the rear then just hold it. Good way to highside and have a very very bad day.
@@PaulKind3d rear is only for low speed otherwise you end up fishtailing. My bike has front and rear ABS
@@PaulKind3d northern Ireland we use it differently
Im getting a Cruiser which will be my first Im coming from Street Bikes and from what here they are a Bit Different Im buying a Kawasaki Vulcan 900 Custom and coming from a Honda CBR1000RR
Does the bike giveaway keep getting extended, or is it my imagination? 😂
Hello yam yam
When countersteering I always have to apply pressure throughout the entire turn. This video makes it sound like you can just tip in with countersteering then turn in the direction of the turn. If you did that wouldn't you just stand the bike up again? Seems super confusing for someone new.
Don't overthink it. Absolutely no rider needs to know about countersteering. A motorcycle will not steer without it at any speed and everbody just does it automatically.
I just went to a dealership and I'm getting a 2024 GSX-8S lol
the thumbnail has the middle headlight on the R7 off, but it should automatically turn on when you start the engine. MAKE IT MAKE SENSE
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3:06 did you mean rear brake
COUNTERSTEERING APPLIES AT ALL SPEEDS.
You don't counter speed during slow moves
@@xJCooksonx you do to initate the turn, not to keep it. If you dont you will 100% drop the bike. Many people have tried to lock a steering to only go left and no matter how slow it is not possible to turn left
@@xJCooksonxfalse. You counter steer to initiate the turn at any speed on 2 wheels
@@xJCooksonxyou can look up videos that explore this. Fortnine and Veritasium are the channels I remember first.
@@xJCooksonxyou literally always countersteer. It’s the ONLY way to initiate a lean on a bike. You have to create instability in the gyroscopic momentum before it will change direction from the x axis the wheels travel on.
Whats the bike in the thumbnail?
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4:48 I stopped taking anything Fortnine says seriously when he suggested you take the pads out of your gear because they don’t fully protect from injury.
I’m not saying he’s wrong.
But I’d rather have an injury sustained while wearing my gear and all its pads than that exact same injury without any of it.
I think it sounds dumb to have to actually say it. But he made the video.
The only bicycles that don't use front brakes for slowing down are single gear or only have rear brakes.
I swear yams made this same video over 5 times already
I dont know why people stress it. If you can turn a bike instinctively (like a bicycle) youre already doing it.
4:55 underquare
Using you break in a turn makes your bike want to stand up and go straight
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I have a question, what does better tire grip do for a sport bike? I know it sounds silly but hear me out. The way I see it either you have traction or you don’t, so all that a better tire does is prevent that traction from breaking better than an old tire would right?
0:58 is incorrect
What is "balls of the feet"??
It’s called “target fixation”, bro
Please learn to brake with four fingers. If you need to do emergency braking and you have two fingers between the lever and the bar you might not be able to get enough braking force.
I am of the opinion that all new motorcycle riders should have to ride a road bicycle (kind with 700c wheels) for at least a 6 months daily before being allowed to buy a motorcycle. Almost everyone of these things will basically become intuitive instead of being a life ending mistake.
Then from the bicycle to a scooter, then a bike. 🤙
@@NoFrictionZone Agreed, but I am not sure how many people would decide to ride a regular motorcycle after riding a scooter. Usually, it's the other way around. lol
@@ariesmarsexpress that was actually my progression lol. If I didn't get a Vespa I would have never gotten into riding. Luckily I have both. 🤙
Never got this. Still don't get this
Something that gets people killed, is not having every single one of these skills mastered before getting on the road. If you can’t do everything in this video, and ride a motorcycle on the street, you’re asking to die. Much better to learn on a dirtbike or pit bike, then get a real motorcycle
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It's not 'banana yellow' it's just ... gross yellow...
That's circa 2000s Suzuki yellow. Gixxers, bandits, sv's all of them came in that colour. It's glorious 😂
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