Don't Buy Until You See This! RTX 4060 vs RTX 3060 12GB in 2024
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- čas přidán 1. 06. 2024
- Are you looking for a budget 1080p GPU for your new gaming PC build to play the latest games in 2024? This video settles the epic RTX 4060 vs. 3060 12GB showdown! Let's see which one is better.
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⏱️Timestamps:
0:00 - RTX 4060 vs RTX 3060
0:18 - Prices
0:34 - What's the difference between RTX 4060 and 3060?
1:02 - Sponsor
2:50 - How we'll test this
3:04 - RTX 3060 in Horizon Forbidden West
3:56 - High graphics preset is a no go for RTX 3060
4:29 - DLSS to the rescue!
4:54 - RTX 4060 in Horizon Forbidden West
6:03 - Frame Generation improves the RTX 4060 gaming experience
6:53 - Is 8GB enough?
7:30 - Future of 8GB GPUs (It's not good)
8:18 - RTX 3060 in HELLDIVERS 2
9:09 - Can RTX 3060 handle Ultra preset?
9:39 - How much memory is used in HELLDIVERS 2?
9:47 - RTX 4060 in HELLDIVERS 2
10:37 - The best settings for 60+ FPS experience
11:18 - Do I prefer RTX 4060 two games in a row?
11:55 - RTX 3060 in the most demanding game (Alan Wake 2)
12:10 - RTX 3060 can't handle Low graphics preset?!🤯
12:47 - Can DLSS save the RTX 3060 in Alan Wake 2?
13:33 - RTX 3060 Ray Tracing performance
14:14 - RTX 4060 in Alan Wake 2
15:04 - Best settings to use in Alan Wake 2 with the RTX 4060
16:20 - RTX 4060 Ray Tracing performance is actually not bad
16:58 - DLSS Quality is necessary to make Ray Tracing work on the RTX 4060
17:54 - Conclusion
18:42 - Does 12GB save the RTX 3060?
19:16 - What if the 3060 was cheaper than 4060? - Věda a technologie
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I would go with the 4060. I don't like having to make that many compromises that came with the 3060. The 4060 preformed well especially in the Alan Wake test I thought it showed better than expected.
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Thanks for the video
helps a lot in my decision between those two cards
Ordered gigabyte 4060 EAGLE
wish me luck 🙂
Glad I could help.🙂 Enjoy your new card🫡
@@theivadim thank you
With AMD fsr 3 working with the rtx 3000 seris cards, i have seen many rtx 3060 doing really great with it.
What keyboard do you use?
It's the Akko MOD 007B HE. Very nice keyboard. A bit pricey tho. I've made a video about it - czcams.com/video/NW-z7PKdJa0/video.html
@@theivadim Ok, thank you. Yeah, too expensive for me.
They have other models that look very similar to this one but use other materials to bring the cost to under $100. But I don't have any experience with any of those. So, can't comment on their quality or value.🙂
In this Ada generation anything below RTX4070 is waste of money , but if you get old generation at heavy discount buy it .
thank you bro I can finally decide now I was so confused what to pick 🙏🙏🙏
Glad I could help
What did you choose??
@@skanderdhraief-mn7ny the rtx 4060 just bought it a few days ago
Is it possible in 3 or 4 months that the prices of the rtx 4060 will fall
Not to the point where it would be A LOT cheaper than it is now. From what I've seen, its price fluctuates +/- $20 or so.
@@theivadim❤
If you buy certain prebuilts from SIs you can get a good deal on a 4060. The computer I bought from Skytech dropped by 250 bucks. I basically got my 4060 $100 dollars cheaper than it goes for. Many sales are going on right now.
Would you say at the long run, getting 4060 is better than 3060? My only concern is not having 12gb of VRAM. But than again, less fps... Idk.
I think that both options suck. But I'd pick the RTX 4060 because it has a bit more life in it thanks to higher compute power. RTX 3060 struggles to deliver good FPS in the latest games already. It's not able to utilise that 12GB of memory because the GPU is not powerful enough to deliver high enough FPS at higher graphics presets. Unless you are prepared to tweak all settings individually for every game. Every time. But then you could also do that for the 4060. So, no matter how it's twisted the 4060 still comes out on top in my opinion.
@@theivadim Thanks for the reply, Do you think there are other GPU options right now, that are in this price range also, but better? Or this is it. We're stuck with this two :D
AMD is no better. Unfortunately, we're stuck with two crap choices in this price range. I'd pick the 4060 because at least you can have a good time with it today while the 3060 performance is lacking. If the price is the same or close then it's not even a competition imho.
Is the rtx 4060ti 8gb better than the normal rtx 4060 8gb is it worth the price difference
That's the next thing I'll test. I have the 8GB 4060 Ti. So, I'll have an answer for you soon.
@@theivadimgood 😊
if you want the RTX 4060 TI, get the RTX 3070 or RX 6700 XT instead
if you want the RTX 4060, get the RTX 3060 TI or RX 6650 XT instead
The 4060ti 8GB is definitely better than the 4060, 3060ti, 3060-12 when it comes to 1080p. Let me remind you that DLSS3 is currently supported in 70+ games
❤@@Aleksey-vd9oc
However i seen people saying 30-40 fps is playable for them lol, so they prefer ultra max textures over more than 40 fps. So they see 3060 as more "futureproof".
The thing is the biggest differnece in setting in game is textures. Even if you run low settings RTX 3060 12GB you can still max out textures and textures only take 1-2 fps.
@@BladeCrew Loading high quality textures isn't a problem with 4060 at 1080p. At that point lot of people notice or care more about higher fps.
It depends on the game for people. Hellblade is a slower game for example and know quite a bit of people that don’t mind the 30fps for the visual fidelity. To each their own really. I always want the highest I can get with the fidelity, but what they are doing isn’t hurting me any 🤷🏾♂️
@@imAgentR Those are not really games at that point, since they took the gameplay out of it. I am sure 30 fps is perfectly fine at that point anyways. Most movies are 24fps. So you are chilling at 30.
240hz monitors are for playing actual games and less than 60fps is not ideal for any type of actual game.
I thought that higher texture settings come with almost no fps cost as long as gpu memory was sufficient in most games.
Depends on the game. But in this case I wasn't increasing just texture quality. I was using presets. Presets include all settings. Sure, you could tinker with the graphics settings in all these games to find something more or less useful for the RTX 3060. But few people have time or even desire to do so. I always use presets. With very rare exceptions. And what's the point when you don't have to deal with such things if you choose the RTX 4060 instead.
@@theivadim Yeah, it is a hassle to check so much every time. But with my 1080 Ti for all those years I always just set textures to the highest and left it, one advantage of that ancient beast. 11GB is just now starting to be a problem once in a while but still rare especially if at 1080p.
Oh, and I just meant that the 12GB on the 3060 isn't useless if it allows you to set textures to the highest. All cards should be 12GB or more. I could be totally wrong anyways, but I've always heard that texture quality doesn't affect performance unless it goes over allocated gpu ram and has to swap.
Indeed, all cards should be at least 12GB in 2024. With that I absolutely agree🤝🙂 1080 Ti = epic card💪 I used it to game at 4K when it first came out. Oh how fast the progress is moving.
@@theivadim I mean it doesn't take much time or research to just go into settings and crank textures to max after selecting your ideal preset. For example in HZD FW you can just go with medium preset + max textures. Same thing in 1440p but using DLSS.
I mean the 4060 will have trouble using its main feature, FG because FG eats up more vram. The real 4060 is the 4060ti but with 192bit bus + 12gb of vram. Had that been the case, it'd have beaten the 3070ti and not been far off the current 4070. Likely within 10-20% of it. Which makes the 4070 more akin to a glorified 4060ti.
The 4060 is really just a glorified and OC'd 4050ti. And even at that it fails as it really should've been a 160bit 10gb card with a 75w and 100w version. The laptop 4050, if given a 128bit bus with 8gb of vram, would've been the real 4050 and it too should've had a 75w and 90w version.
The 8GB on both 4060 and 4060 Ti is really a shame. The 4060 Ti 16GB becomes a completely useable 60fps 1440p GPU just because of the extra VRAM because it can actually use FG effectively.
I mean I buy the normal rtx 4060 8gb
I wanted to get my hands on one of them 16GB 4060 Ti for a while. But it eludes me still. After seeing how 12GB didn't save the 3060 I can't stop wondering if the 16GB 4060 Ti may be similar to it - large VRAM but not enough compute power to take advantage of it properly.
@@theivadim I'm thinking of doing a sort of response to your 4060 Ti video on my channel with the 16GB version. In my testing of the card I believe the VRAM is more useful on the 4060 Ti vs the 3060 because of the 40 series features, I'm getting very good results at 1440p with DLSS + Frame Gen.
@@PuffinTechYT good stuff👍 It'll be interesting to see the results.
Because on 3060, only maxed out textures that we are gloried about although 3060 also have Frame Generation too (by mod of course) and it consumes VRAM too. For 4060 Ti, those VRAM would be much useful because of all the bells and whistles, RTX, Frame Generation and NVIDIA FG actually uses more VRAM than AMD. Nobody uses Ray Tracing on a 3060 I guess so that makes sense why 4060 Ti 16GB will literally save a 4060 Ti than 12GB on 3060.
Which one would you choose?
3060 here xc its enough for me
Is the rtx 4060ti 8gb better than the normal rtx 4060 8gb is it worth the price difference
3060 bc it will last longer due to its 12gb vram and its also 20 dollars cheaper
@@MaximosTheGamer but what about the fact that the 3060 isn't powerful enough to even utilise that 12GB memory advantage? Higher graphics settings require more memory. But the 3060 can't play the latest games at higher settings. That's what I found out when testing these GPU for this video.
@theivadim sure i will pick 4060 over 3060.3060 is pretty weak only slightly faster than 2060 Super.12gb vram will not save 3060.
I'm still running a 1650.
I think the 4060 is a fantastic card, but it was and is significantly over cost for the midrange we want. Prior to covid, there was a midrange of 150-200£. The midrange needs to get back to here really.
I have one angle where I would take the 3060, and that is with AI and compute. The extra ram is a true benefit in that area.
It is highly unlikely that GPUs in ~£200 range will be as good as they used to be. The industry is changing. Even the £300 GPUs kinda suck nowadays. And there is no evidence that this trend will change course.
Inflation is a thing. The price of everything has gone up. Some gamers are memory holing this.
@@GRIGGINS1 The gutting of midrange started well before the inflation cycle hit. There are other factors like cards being kitted with more RAM.
But even with this, its_not merely due to inflation and BOM supply.
@AdmV0rl0n inflation has a cascade effect on a lot of things I work for Gerber. I am sure you heard of this company. Since 2020 the cost of production, warehousing, Electrical supply , maintenance and transportation has driven up all of our costs. Add in a few supply chain bottlenecks and prices rise. I am not even gonna mention the local, state and Federal taxes the company must pay. It is the same for all companies now. Just giving you perspective from the other side.
@@GRIGGINS1 While it has, I think you misunderstand several things. Areas like crypto mining, Data centre, and more - played greater parts than merely inflation. Supply chain and covid also.
Nvidia don't make a cheap midrange card now, not because they can't, but they just don't. Take a hard look at their balance sheet and see why.
Intel ARC cards offer great value, and are not immunte to suipply chain or similar. The problem isn't merely inflation. I'm sorry but its not.
can the 4060 beat the 3060 ti or at least comes close ?
I haven't had the pleasure to experience the 3060 Ti myself. But according to Techspot, the 3060 Ti performs significantly better than the 4060. By about the same amount as 4060 vs 3060. The benchmark data can be found here - www.techspot.com/review/2794-amd-radeon-7600-xt/
@@theivadim with FG 4060 better then 3060 ti (today DLSS3 support 70+ games)
The reason nvidia and amd won't give you good budget options is because why bother? People often defend the 4060 by saying its efficient and the performance is ''good enough''. Its not. Nobody even points out that from specs and performance, its more akin to a 4050ti. I mean I've seen people even defend the 8gb of vram. Why bother releasing good value cards? Nvidia realized their ''mistake'' when they made pascal too good. They aren't going to repeat that. And trust me, AMD made the same mistake with rx6000. They're no better than nvidia overall. They too will follow nvidia's example.
The rx5500xt, 6500xt and 3050 all have had 8gb of vram. Thats 3 generations of xx50 class having 8gb of vram. Its about time they got a boost. 4060 should've been a 4050ti with a 160bit bus and 10gb of vram. That too with a 75w version and 100w version, so we can actually utilize its efficiency. 4050 should've been the laptop 4050 but with a 128bit bus and 8gb of vram. And had a 75w and 90w version. I mean the 1050 and 1650 had this.
But, I don't think the future of 8gb cards will be as bleak some people say because what games you play dictate how much vram you'll need. AAA games suck in general. From being just interactive movies to unoptimized ports to incredibly boring in general, why bother? A lot of folks are shifting to modding older games, playing older titles or just playing indie titles.
Besides, upgrade cycles have increased now as well. And likely will continue given how things are going. I mean the fact, that pascal, which is 7 years old now, is STILL relevant, to the point that remedy had to optimize AW2 specifically for pascal, just goes to show how little people have started to care about new AAA titles.
I wouldn't suggest waiting on the rtx 5000 series considering the 5060 will be another crap 128bit 8gb card.
Yup Bro Best Is Try To Buy Or Push Limit For Rx 7900 Gre Or Else Rtx 4070 Super 😅
Or Else Play With Decent 1080 P Medium + Very High Settings In Rtx 4060 Or Rx 6700 Xt
True. But sometimes one just can't exceed their budget to get a 4070 SUPER🙂 Even tho lower tier cards are not that good this generation.
@@theivadim 😅Yup Sir
I have watched a lot of comparisons between 4060ti 8Gb and the normal 4060 8Gb. I felt that there is little difference and I am doing a quick review between the two balls
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8gb isn’t enough anymore.
DLAA is whats eating those fps man.
Depends on the game though. In most games DLAA is basically 1 or 2 fps more intensive than TAA. Unlike in Cyberpunk for example, it could cost like 20 fps or more.
Indeed. In Horizon DLAA and TAA performance is very similar. DLAA looks better in my opinion.
The 4060 is targeted at people who are still using the 1060 and lower cards. It is literally aimed at people who play older games.
This. I’m enjoying my 4060Ti 16GB coming from a GTX 1650.
@@imAgentR Yep I love my 4060. It is a major upgrade from my GTX 950.
I have a 1050ti still so I should get the 4060 bc I’m still confused
@@bradlydrummondofficial if you did, the 16GB variant is the only one. If you go Intel you’ll need to keep waiting for their support of games to increase and drivers, but it’s pretty good. That leaves the AMD cards, which now with FSR3 and the frame gen that can even be modded into games, it’s pretty much the safest lineup for rasterization which is still mostly what games are designed around.
Most gamers just don’t use raytracing, which leans in AMD cards favor tbh
@@imAgentR oh i heard AMD is bad in fortnite and i play fortnite. But i don’t have intel i have ryzen but im upgrading cpu as well
Keeping it honest so people don't get misguided by wrong information.Love to see
Nvidia and more VRAM just dozen match. You either get AMD or get used to low VRAM on green cards. Surely 12GB won't save a 3060 but man those maxed out textures look sweet. 4060 ain't that bad except that lowered bus and VRAM wicis a shame and such a downgrade so much. If you already have a 3060, you shouldn't upgrade to a 4060 at all. May I call it a 4050 though? This is a disappointment on any 60 class cards ever. A 4070 is how a 4060 should have been. For a new buy I would grab a 4060 but in disgust because 8GB is like dead on arrival. Not even a few months and it already struggling than a 3060 on VRAM. I like how they said 8GB is not enough anymore but still released 8GB cards. If you can bear now, just wait for 5060 or something and see if they still rekt the new generation card. Otherwise just be happy with what you own and avoid hyping with newly broken releases I guess. 🙂
Everyone is talking about a lack of memory, and at the same time, most games take up 6-7 gigabytes even at a resolution of 1440p
And where there are "beautiful textures", 3060/4060 - without dlss, they produce 30-40 frames per second and you still need to turn on dlss, which automatically reduces memory consumption.
My opinion is that in the future, DLSS+FG, even with 8 GB, will be much more useful than AMD's +4GB.
@@Aleksey-vd9oc Lossless Scaling's upscaling and frame gen is decent enough for me and the fact that it can be used for any graphics card and any game including emulators like Switch and PS3 makes it better than Nvidia's DLSS and FG imo. I'm just glad it exists, saves me from needing to upgrade my 3060
But at higher resolution rtx 3060 will perform better thanks to that vram
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You just sound like a paid agent for advertising nvidias 40 series. In most of these cases having 10 fps more doesnt matter because i guarantee it will drop below 60 often with the 4060 anyway and is much more prone to stuttering with 8gb vram. Not to mention the reduced bus width etc etc
The reduced buswidth is a non issue for 40series. Nvidia put in the work to make sure that they didn't have to give you the same buswidth to achieve the same performance.. this is because they didn't want to have to give you double the VRAM for a certain tier. This is why every teir has a lower memory bus. 40 series is designed to not need as many memory chips for a certain performance. Just look at 3090(12 memory channels) vs 4070ti(6 memory channels).
But yeah. Vram amounts suck. Nvidia should have just kept all bus width the same per tier and just doubled the vram but it's Nvidia. They're cruel and evil and willing to fuck ignorant consumers for an extra buck.
@@christophermullins7163 I wouldnt call nvidia evil. Its the way the world works - companies want to profit. I blame the people (sheeple) who cant take like 2-3 days to research a bit before buying. Computer technology on the consumer level is really not complicated. But im just ranting now.
4060... obviously the latest GPU will play the latest games better...
I still expected the 3060 to put up a better fight.😄
How about for video editing and other editing softwares@@theivadim
TL: didn't watch Both are a terrible pick. Grab a 6650xt, 6700xt or 7700xt if you are desperate and have a few hundred quid. RT is bad all around and non existent on both of these so sheep will not be heard.
nobody cares about the "better price for performance" or whatever bro
Trash
@@ral8031 Couldnt agree more- Nvidia entry gpus are trash for quadruple the money they should be. GG troll
The higher VRam alone in the 3060 makes it better.
I fail to see how. Did you not see how different the RTX 4060 experience is to the 3060? 12GB didn't help at all.
@@theivadim These are the people we see on the internet who knows nothing about tech!
@@theivadim Only a handfull of new games use 8GB of vram or more on high+ settings. In 1-3 years of time the minimum requirements will be 8GB of VRAM since even in horizon forbidden west it runs out of vram. I have a rtx 3050 8GB and even on medium preset and high textures im running out of vram. Chainscrape(the town where you were is not even vram intesnive.), I went into a place in the game that is so vram intensive that chainscrape vram usage looks tiny in comparison. I went to another village and my ram was at 17-18GB of ram used from 12-13GB because it ram out of vram and frame generation uses also vram. That beginning scene is extremely easy to run with 8GB of vram but the longer you play the more vram it uses. The only way i dont get stuttering with the vram is if I run medium textures.
@@BladeCrew after 3 years 3060 will be a 720p low settings card this gpu is not powerful enough 12gb won't save it.
@@theivadim Ain't failing to see anything 4060 v ram is terrible yes has a little more FPS but the 3060 carries it and can max out on more games with peace of mind from over using VRam.